To Tell the Truth - Dorothy Kilgallen on Panel (Mar 19, 1962) [W/ COMMERCIALS]
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- This episode of "To Tell the Truth" serves double duty: as a WML extra because it features Dorothy Kilgallen as a guest panelist, and as a teaser for the new channel I'm launching for the nighttime episodes of TTTT on Monday, June 1st, 2015. And this episode includes the original commercials!
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PANEL: Tom Poston, Dorothy Kilgallen, Johnny Carson, Dina Merrill
CONTESTANT #1: Theresa Stratas (Metropolitan opera star: en.wikipedia.or... )
CONTESTANT #2: JT Lyle (Policeman who moonlights as a hairdresser)
CONTESTANT #3: Mickey Thompson (Race car driver: en.wikipedia.or... )
NOTE: This video contains material from two sources in order to preserve as much as possible from the higher quality copy without the original commercials. Many thanks to epaddon for providing a copy of the show with the original commercials intact.
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Mr. Carson, CHARMING as usual! I miss you, Johnny (and Dorothy!). Two amazing, intelligent, and charming individuals! Thank you for posting this!
I love these old shows. I watched them with my grandparents. This was when life was simpler.
Agreed
Yeah, and generations to come will call the days we're now living in, the days when life was simpler, better.
In the mid-1900's, simpler and better living was before them.
Each era has its positives and negatives.
For example, now there is overall less homophobia, but overall we have more young people who don't want to work. The bigotry was worse then, but the work ethic was much better than it is today. Just my personal observations.
Teresa Stratas became a most admired soprano, especially at the MET. Lots of temperament.
Dorothy was such a refreshing addition to this show!
(also, those commercials were BOGUS)!!
This woman Dorothy was a beautiful woman that was loved and admired.She is missed to this day.
Dorothy was a whore. She had an extramarital child with Johhny Rey and paraded Rey as a mystery guest on WML.
Great episode. I'm a big fan of What's My Line, so seeing Dorothy on a different panel was awesome!!
Me too I love watching What's My Line
Rocking some cleavage no less. = P
@@4seeableTV Yeah, I was kind of surprised at how much there was.
And there's a book out called the reporter who knew too much. the mysterious death of Dorothy that I'm listening to on Audible right now. She sounds like an amazing lady and she was super rich
Gary Thanks So much, During the current times, these Old Todman/Goodson Shows are so Nice to escape to! A time when Class and decorum were the Fashion.
A time when smokers were ill, old and knocking on heavens door at 60
Senza the cigarettes that is...
Wow, Teresa Stratas wound up having a magnificent career, and is considered a legendary singer now. How fun to see her in this!!
“You’re all so good and this isn’t my Line” 😂 I love it I love her 😍
You got me with Dorothy Kilgallen, and I'll be back.
just what a singer needs, a carton of smokes.
@ZoneFighter1 Salem giveth; Salem taketh away
The Rat Pack: Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis jr. were all Heavy smokers
@Michael Rube The smoking singers you cite as examples could not sing very well in their later years. All of them eventually suffered as a result of smoking. In addition to losing their vibrato voices, they developed major trouble with breathing. Have you ever experienced that? It sucks.
@@michaelrube9881 Yes, and Sammy died of throat cancer, Dean had emphysema, and Frank died from heart problems due to smoking!!
So glad we no longer have commercials for those cancer sticks...and there are no smokers on TV.....Wonder what happened to all those actors who did the ads on TV...I heard the Malboro Man died of lung cancer...
I want to end the next meeting I run with "Thanks for being with us, and pick up a carton of Salems on your way out, if you will."
Hahahahaaaaaa!!! Me too!!
Jason Smith yyyyy
Now, THAT, is some kind, of panel; this will be most enjoyable.
This game seemed right up Dorothy's alley.
How ironically funny is it that a tobacco company would be sponsoring a show called To Tell The Truth.?
Yeah, since they lie about their products not causing cancer.
A tobacco that refreshes the taste(mouth)? How does that work?
I've written it yesterday in another comment abot Edward Bernays' recycled propaganda and how he used it's principles for marketing.
It's in the documentary The Century Of The Self.
You can find it on TH-cam.
Bernays also wrote a book titled Propaganda.
@@donnawoodford6641 Menthol
Fresh, cool air like Springtime. Note the last ad is for Dristan.
I love Dorothy's laugh. She seemed to be having fun.
Her laughter had a girlish quality.
As of today, January 20, 2017, Teresa Stratas is 78 years old.
Susan Nunes That’s my birthday January 20th 97 thou
And Mickey Thompson was murdered
@@dancegxy7757, wow..how?
I just found out, nevermind.
Hit job..it took them years, but they got the guy who commissioned it. Debts are onerous in more ways than one.
Strong evidence DK was murdered, too.
I really appreciate you preserving these vintage shows AND the commercials as well
I found the commercials to be very amusing...."have a cold? is it tough to breathe? Have a cool, refreshing SALEM cigarette!"
I want to smoke now
Dorothy showing a little bust! I saw a taping of 'Newhart" in 1986 - my mother was an extra and we had lunch with the cast. I remember Tom Poston really digging into the grub. Great memories.
Got a cold, sinus congestion?? Then pick up a carton of Salems and breathe in that springtime fresh air! LoL Great episode though, thanks for sharing!
I thought that's where they were going at first, some doctor recommended cigarettes. lol
Salems were menthol cigarettes and menthal, naturally, opened the airways ;-) If you are not familiar with menthol, think eucaliptos or a strong peppermint. Personally, I thought menthol cigarettes were disgusting, Cool was another brand of menthol cigarettes, just like Salems, disgusting menthol smoke. I smoked for 40 years and was chain smoking 4 packs a day when I quit cold turkey over 20 years ago. Hardest thing I ever did too. Let no one tell you it was not physically addicting because it absolutely was. First week I was pale as a sheet, breaking into cold sweats and vomiting with withdrawal.
That’s hilarious!!!!
Happy 80th Birthday today, Teresa Stratas!! :)
Superb! Great seeing Dorothy on TTTT and also nice to have the original commercials intact as they originally aired. Thanks much for uploading this
Dorothy Kilgallen wanted to tell the truth. It was lethal.
True, as she had it all figured out who killed Kennedy, and because of what she knew, she was eliminated.
She was an alcoholic and drug addict who had been in rehab more than once. She died of an overdose, not killed for saying she would reveal the killer of JFK. She made that claim and 2 years went by and not a word out of her on the subject. If they were going to knock her off they would have done so 2 years before she died. I can't believe the amount of misinformation surrounding Kilgallen.
You mean when Tom Posten asked her, “isn’t Budd Collier poised next to John Daley?” And Dorothy never even looked at him, kept her head down with a lethal look on her face?
LOVE to see this show come back! Even the ones who were NOT the real opera singer, were well informed on their subjects! JOSE ? that's a cute one! We're all out here thinking in Spanish-and She knew it was different in ITALIAN! VERY good!
It’s in French, not Italian.
I was quite young in 1972. My old man co signed for me to buy a 1972 Chevelle Malibu. I remember so vividly how I enjoyed that car and my Salem's. I gave up smoking in 1992. The Malibu is still with me and runs pretty well. I regret smoking, but I have never regretted the Chevelle. She's in the garage and since she's old, I only take her out in nice weather. Like Salem's, I take the old Chevy out when it's springtime fresh outside!
If I ever called my father, my old man, I would not been able to sit down for a long time..Frankly I think that is so rude.😢😢
I too had a '72 Malibu. Still the favorite car I had as a youth. Mine was "Forest Green" in color, with a 350 cu. in. V8 Well made, I remember seeing them still cruising around in the late 1980's!
Wow. Dorothy Kilgallen and Mickey Thompson on the same program. Dorothy died in November 1965 .A death most people consider a homicide. 25 years later Mickey and his wife were brutally murdered. Each a legend in their respective trades.
"A Columbian Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis and all CHALLENGERS WILL BE DESTROYED".
Where do you get the idea that “most” people consider Kigallen’s death a “homicide.”
@@skipeastport5529 I looked over the research after I heard that somehow she was involved with the Kennedys and had something to do with her knowing about who really killed JFK.
Dorothy Kilgallen wasn't really known here in the UK but I am a huge fan of What's My Line and it is because so many USA editions exist as opposed to hardly any of the BBC, I gravitated here. She was a real TV star and personality and this is also a good programme. We too did several versions of this show with titles ranging from Tell the Truth to Cuckoo In The Nest. And I've never seen Mr Carson with dark hair.
Well,that's a new one with me.Associating fresh air with breathing in a lungfull
Of cigarette smoke.😂😂😂
That always gets me too 😆.
@@jacquelinebell6201 So funny. Giving an Opera singer 200 Cigarettes. How I long for those innocent carefree days.
@@ianbennett1491 Can't imagine it would have helped her throat lol.
I found the commercials to be very amusing...."have a cold? is it tough to breathe? Have a cool, refreshing SALEM cigarette!"
Just want to thank you for bringing back so many fine memories!
In one generation we went from "big tobacco" sponsors to "big pharma". Same as it ever was...
Aquatic Ape Yes,the phrase" the more things change,the more they remain the same."
I bet both types of companies are administrated by Black Rock.
Wow, including commercials that haven't been allowed to the air since 1971.
Interesting book I'm listening to on Audible right now called the reporter that new too much the mysterious death of Dorothy . Just wanted to recommend it. She was a very prolific reporter and it made her mega rich in her day
It was a very good book. It is so obvious that someone killed her.
I loved watching these shows with my aunt. When school was out I watched the night time shows. I believe that's why I love Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune.
This is so great. Who wouldn’t be superbly entertained ?
Teresa was angry! "How dare you criticize my pronunciation!" She told them!
she did mispronounce the head covering; it is 'mahn-tee-yah', not man-tilla
They gave the opera star a carton of cigarettes!!!! OMG!!!!
Maria Callas smokes i think i saw picture of her if i'm not mistaken
@Singapore Pearl If you sing incorrectly, there is a danger of getting nodules on your vocal chords. But You can't get cancer from singing.
She sold them for lunch! Worth about $2.95, at 60s prices.
When you take a puff...it's SPRINGTIME! Lol
Thank you, so fun, I was 14! our family actually watched these shows together!
In this period, NBC announced that Johnny Carson would in October replace Jack Paar as the host of the NBC Tonight Show. He's was amusing on WML and very amusing here.
Amusing yes. But knows nothing about opera.
@@mckavitt13 The majority of people don't know about opera!
I remember, when Johnny is asked how long he thinks he'll do the Tonight Show, he answers, "Oh, probably a couple of years." I think he did it 30 years.
15:10 Did I just hear Bud Collyer talking about Princess Leia's hairdo (15 years before the rest of the world saw it)??
The Force was strong with him.
Maybe George Lucas saw this episode and it gave him the idea!
Mickey Thompson, the third guest here, was murdered along with his wife twenty-six years almost exactly after this broadcast, in a case that went unsolved until 2001.
Yes, I saw that documentary....
Oh my god. You’re so right! Whaaaaa
Did the man who killed them., I read in other comments his buisness partner , ever go to jail or did he pass on by then?
yea, so was Dorothy :(
@@ellemathews9840 he was sent to prison and he lost his appeal he still in jail today. His name was Mike Goodwin. He ordered the killing. He escaped the Caribbean
At about 15:10 Bud says something about parting hair and I think he says - parting the hair in the middle and wearing it in buns curled around your ears. Princess Leia's hair style mentioned 15 years before Star Wars. Mickey Thompson and his wife would be murdered in their driveway in 1988 - his business partner being responsible and convicted.
That's so sad :"(
I don't remember the cash prize being so large! Splitting $1000 among 3 was fairly big money over 50 years ago!
A LOT BETTER THAN THE CRUMMY $50 MAX. ON WML.
About $2700 for each in today's money. $50 in the early 1950s on WML would be about $500, which is truly shocking inflation.
I thought Tom Poston's rat question was cute. It has meaning in both hairdressing & police work. I'd say more, but I gotta go inhale some springtime.
MarcBrewer How did you even find this video??? I haven't made it public yet.
What's My Line? I thought that might be the case due to the low number of views. It's not the first screw up I've encountered on You Tube. I just scrolled through the playlist, past all the private and deleted stuff and voila, there it was.
MarcBrewer Ah, okay, I understand now. Thanks very much for explaining-- I know what to do to correct this now. I don't want to make this video public until I'm ready to launch the new channel for To Tell the Truth (I expect within the next week or two). You got a sneak peak. :)
MarcBrewer Tom Poston was amazingly quick to come up with spontaneous witticisms. It's no wonder TTTT hung on to him for dear life.
I had no idea Tom Poston sang so well
This is the point in TTTT history when Johnny Carson was a regular nighttime panelist for a few months and was still hosting the ABC daytime game show "Who Do You Trust?". He had already been named at this point as the next host of the Tonight Show (see his WML MG appearance of 2/11/62) but had to wait out the end of his ABC contract before he could start. "Who Do You Trust" had also at one time immediately followed the daytime version of "Beat The Clock", hosted by Bud Collyer on ABC (that show's run had ended in 1960).
Tom Poston's crack about John Daly went over like a stone shoe...he was looking for Dorothy to laugh or say *something* but she didn't flinch and there was dead silence. Kind of weird.
Maybe Tom was trying to say something to get Dorothy to be less "scared"...
john p "isn't bud poised next to john daly?" lol, dorothy didn't even look at him. poston would be a panelist on wml 3 months later, they seemed to be very cordial, and no mention of the crack. i wonder if it got back to daly. poston would come back a little over a year later and they seemed to have trouble looking at each other, (my impression) upon introduction, who knows, dorothy had a lot of drama around her with her wide ranging newspaper column.
@@tomitstube Hmm, I'll have to look for those Poston episodes of WML. I love to hear those behind the scenes tidbits of the classic episodes.
@@tomitstube ... it seemed to me that after Tom Poston said it, he did look toward her but Dorothy Kilgallen seemed to be focusing on the paperwork or whatever was in front of her. It just looked like Dorothy Kilgallen was concentrating and that she probably didn’t even hear the comment.
It was awkward but harmless. She just wasn't paying attention
It's so unbelievable that cigarettes were a considered a great prize considering what we know now about their dangers. Johnny Carson was quoted as saying about cigarettes, "These things are killing me" and later he said, "Those damn cigarettes," shortly before he died from respiratory failure caused by emphysema. Very sad.
This show was presented on my Pop's birthday March 19 1962 ... 😃 🌟 👍
My father turned 31 eight days after this
@@markcornish2519 so he's about 91 now
I am shocked to see that I watched this episode 11 months ago - but it does make me feel better now about not remembering the details. This is a very lively episode, made particularly fun by both Dorothy and Johnny Carson. Tom was as cute as ever, and of course, Dina is always so classy and elegant. The contestants and impostors are all very good here. Thanks as always TTTT curator!
Glad you enjoyed it, Vicki! I never remember the details of these shows after the fact. I'm sure I've seen the vast majority of TTTT episodes already from when GSN was rerunning them, but they all may as well be brand new to me at this point!
Rest in peace both Dorothy kilgallen and Mickey Thompson. Both murdered.
Dorothy and Mickey both died tragic deaths.
Mickey?
Mickey Thompson and his wife were murdered in 1988. He was 59 years old.
@@debbiemcbride3422 but what did he do to get him dead??
Twice during the peak of her operatic career, Theresa Stratas cancelled things and worked with Mother Theresa helping the sick adults and also specifically children who were dying of AIDS! What a wonderful lady!
Wow Mickey was murdered in 1988.
Love the attitude of the opera singer... who is still going strong today.
She probably didn't smoke those cigarettes then lol
I thought the last commercial/ advert was going to say "Smoke Salem menthols, so you can breath easier when you have a cold."
This aired the night before I was born....
Different planet
Teresa Stratas celebrated her 77th birthday four days ago on May 26.
Johan Bengtsson That's a remarkable coincidence! And since I see you commenting, I know that you know the new TTTT postings are starting on Monday. :) I hope you like the show well enough to be a regular commenter!
To Tell the Truth (CBS) Can't wait! :)It felt strange to watch when you're used to WML and, as I wrote in another comment, I wonder if the show wouldn't have been even better if the audience would have known the answers. I think so.
And I took an instant dislike to Tom Poston! Not promising for the future episodes...
Johan Bengtsson Well, Tom Poston didn't join the panel until two years into the show's run , if that helps any.
What's My Line? A Little. But perhaps I change my mind as time goes. I like Bud Collyer though.
So she's 80 now?! Good show.
This was the best show,,I loved it..watched it when I was a kid.
When you take a puff- it's Springtime- gotta love those classic cigarette commercials .
Teresa Stratas was so young here... & relatively unknown. Today she is retired but nothing less than extremely & deservedly famous. Arguably the best Violetta, dramatically speaking.
One of the best actresses in opera, ever.
Breathe in fresh air when you smoke 😂.
Dorothy is good on "What's My Line?" but is out of place on a TTTT panel. They never caught on that the audience was laughing at the tiny "1" she wrote on her card with the first panel.
We don’t know the audience was laughing at that. Dorothy plays the game just fine. If she had trouble transitioning from What’s My Line to other game shows, why did Goodson-Todman Productions book her on so many of them?
In 1961, Dorothy appeared on Play Your Hunch as well as the daytime Password. Both were produced by Goodson-Todman.
@@kelloggs5473 They WERE laughing at her little number 1. it was cute. It doesn't mean they were laughing at HER. Relax.
besides, she wasn't the only one anyway to write a small number on the ballet (I remember when one of the panelists did it too, and it wasn't even THAT long ago)
@@kristabrewer9363 The fact that she wasn't the only one to ever do that doesn't make it any less funny to tonight's audience. I agree with CrazyWedz above, it WAS cute. I even chuckled myself.
smoking salem is like breathing in clean fresh air? Give me a break.
mh K Like breathing in springtime in Industrial Beijing.
Don't forget Detroit
mh K my mom smoked salem lights, if that's any better
mh K lol it's 1962 man
+mh K I remember a cigarette ad, "4 out of 5 doctors who smoke prefer the menthol in Kool"
Many comments about the harmful effects of cigarette smoking here, justifiably so. I've lost several friends, heavy smokers, to lung cancer. Not to mention the harm to others who had to live with them.
However, as usual "there are exceptions to every rule"...my dear old Dad smoked constantly, ate meat and few greens or vegetables, drank liquor every day, ran a successful business...and lived to 96!
But I still cringe mentally with every carton presented as a "prize." And I think Dorothy is terrific on this show!
Johnny Carson and Tom Poston were also on this panel. Funny how so many people are only commenting on the beloved Dorothy Kilgallen (
Neither Carson, nor Poston were killed by their government.
I figure you would have to be "smoking" something else to experience "Springtime Softness" !
😆
😊😊😊😊
I have to mention how classy, elegant, and beautiful Dina Merrill is here. And always was.
To tell the truth... Dorothy looks way more attractive here than she ever has on WML.
oh yes, and the cleavege
She had an attractive bust
WML was her home but here she put her best on because visiting 😊 just like in real life.
I concur, best she ever looked...and she was sober to boot! Not bad looking straight-on but her profile reveals the absence of a chin.
Sirgromulus So what? People respected her for her intelligence. Her looks did not matter.
Back when ciggarette commercials not only convinced you that they had a great tasting flavor but were as refreshing as springtime.
My sister has a 1937 edition of "Time" magazine. There is an ad in it for Lucky Strike cigarettes. It shows a pic of a doctor (white coat, stethoscope hanging on his neck, saying "I recommend smoking Luckies....they calm the nerves and aid digestion"!
Kinda spooky that the 2nd slate of contestants were hairdressers, considering that one of the last people Dorothy K. spoke with before she [ahem] “died” a few years later was her hairdresser.
Why is that “spooky?” There were and are hairdressers - makeup artists, fashion designers, personal assistants and everything else around millions of people everywhere who’ve died having been seen in the same company beforehand. There’s nothing to draw any conclusions about with any of it.
@@mynamedoesntmatter8652 Not drawing conclusions. Just sayin'.
Lighten up, Francis ...
Regarding the foreign language question, it might've been considered a "demonstration" question, since the contestant would be demonstrating her foreign language skills. TTTT never allowed contestants to physically demonstrate anything during questioning.
Smoke refreshed! You gotta be kidding!
It was the 60s... boo hoo
@@ellemathews9840 I guess that makes it ok then. Lol, ok
Wow!! Johnny Carson, love his lil smirk at the intro
“These old game shows are so fun to watch! But the commercials were pretty funny: “Flavorful, soft and fresh”.
I’ve never heard cigarettes described like that before.
I guessed the correct policeman purely on looks. He had that bright good guy look.
At 27:06 the hug the mother gave the girl was looped to male it last longer. It looked very odd, a gif before it's time? Also, what was up with the audience? They seemed to be laughing at nothing. High on all that fresh Salem air I guess.
I think in the first instance (7:12) they were laughing at how tiny Dorothy wrote her "1."
maremacd that tiny 1 was really cool
I got the idea Johnny Carson was monkeying around off-camera, as someone on the panel mentioned him in reference to the laughing. Great show.
Gordon Hitchens, one of the imposters on the Mickey Thompson segment is the renowned filmmaker.
I think I'm gonna buy some Salem cigarettes. It's cold here and I need that fresh springtime air in my lungs.
That would also be “soft” fresh springtime air. 😂
The commercials are real eye-openers.
8:27 I like when she said that, I knew it from the beggining for what her dressed
I'd forgotten the free carton of cigarettes....certainly shows what a long time ago this was.
Teresa Stratas is now 80. She was not only the youngest singer with the Metropolitan Opera but also its smallest at just 5 feet tall.
omg i was 1 month old too great to see those that my parents laughed at
What?! Just one carton of cigarettes? I thought it would be a year’s supply.
By the way, a Dramatic Soprano is the biggest voiced of the Sopranos and has to sing over larger orchestration in the works of Wagner and a few other composers. A Mezzo is actually a Mezzo-Soprano who is lower than a soprano...and sometimes sings the even lower women's parts for Contraltos.
There is something fascinating about Dorothy.
Yes, Johnny Ray thought so, too.
Mickey was sadly murdered along his wife in 1988. I remember the news and the sadness.
50 years ago, with a cigarette sponsor, I was seven and loved this show.
I thought T.S. would pronounce mantilla the Spanish way /mahn-TEE'-yah/ rather than the English /man-TIL'-lah/.
I found the commercials to be very amusing...."have a cold? is it tough to breathe? Have a cool, refreshing SALEM cigarette!"
At the time, the show was sponsored on alternate weeks by R.J. Reynolds [Salem], and American Home Products- on behalf of their various subsidiaries, including Whitehall Laboratories [Anacin, Dristan] and Boyle-Midway [Easy-Off, AerOwax, et. al.]. Stan Sawyer speaks for Salem......
Don't know why Dorothy looks much better than on wml...??
The show had a better makeup department. ;)
everytime bud colleyer is on...i be like "its superman!" :)
I recognized Mickey Thompson
I wish they would give a pack o' smokes as a parting gift THESE days...JUST to see the look on their faces! Pfffff hahahaahaa!!!
That's funny
I can't decide if it would have been more fun to know the answers à la WML-style or not...
Johan Bengtsson I think they made the right call. Of the three major G-T panel shows, TTTT was the strongest as a pure game (WML wasn't much more than a variant of "20 Questions", and IGAS was hardly a game at all.), so I think it makes a lot of sense that this is the show where the audience had to play along with the panel. The fun of being in on the contestant lines on WML was in watching the panel get lost, or ask inadvertently silly questions with unintended meanings. That kind of thing doesn't really happen on TTTT, so knowing who the impostors were in advance wouldn't add the same the sort of layer of entertainment that being in on the secret did with WML (and IGAS, for that matter). All it would really give you is the ability to better gauge how good the liars were, and what would be lost, the element of playing along, is a big part of the appeal of the show. That's my take.
Yes, we know, Dorothy and Mickey were murdered
You got some facts that Dorothy was murdered? I thought so.
They surely were....sadly.😮
22:20 “I don’t know what they’re laughing at…” that was hilarious.
Just wanted to say thanks again for all your hard work so we can enjoy & of course I subbed your TTTT channel...:I'll be telling all my friends just like I did here :-)
A carton of Salem’s as a gift..,, wow! How far we’ve come.
I think everyone was laughing at the size of Dorothy's number on the card.
Dina Merrill is a WOW