Thanks for the explanation. I'd never thought about the build up of carboxyhaemoglobin in the body due to its half-life, even with low concentrations of CO in the air. Now I know 👍
Been looking for exactly this! Thank you for taking the time to make this video- it perfectly explains what we all needed to hear👍🏻 wish I had saved more and got a Rinnai or likes but I didn’t so I will keep mine outside!!!
I've made our shower an external one so the heater hangs on the inside of the rear door so when opened its actually outside and a shower tray slides out from the back of the van and a shower curtain hangs between the open doors on all four sides to keep the van dry and your dignity intact from the rest of the world. Just use a quick release gas fitting at the back of the van and you can disconnect the heater when you don't use it. Its a much safer way to do it and means you don't loose a large space inside the van to a shower.
Thanks Keith - I wasn't going to post this one on the FB group as I imagine many will find it from the CO video - but feel free to pop it on if you want to.
I wonder if there's a way to rig these up so that you hang the actual tank outside when in use but can control it from the inside? So you still have your nice inside bathroom and the convenience of one of these heaters without the danger? Or I was thinking a sealed chamber on the back of your bathroom that is vented in the roof?
what a great Video! I had problems with symptoms of a low level CO and nitrogendioxide poisening with an indoor non flued gas heater. Now these gas heaters have a lot less power than a water heater, but they might run all day. I can't really comprehend how that's allowed and that was not inside a van, this was a 25square meter studio. HOwever I don't have problems with my gas stove. I think the gas heater creates an incomplete combustion, as the flame has to go a very complex way compared to the flame of the stove and might not pull enough oxygen. My CO detector said nothing - due to the thresholds. Seems my body's thresholds are a lot lower, which is good - otherwise I would have used the gas heater all winter long. However, I thought about a gas water heater for my bathroom combined with a venting pipe... however now I have to give it a second thought. I mean the shower needs a lot less time compared to the heater and I only would use it for showering, not for other hot water use, so it would maximum run one time a day. also I can keep the window open.. however, thanks for talking about this - I have the feeling people either tell you it's bad and don't explain why, or they say in case of the indoor gas heater it's fine - while I expierienced on my own body it is definitely not fine to use all day.
Hi - in my totally non-professional opinion I would say that was a good way to do it. I'm not sure how they would stand up to be shaken around during travel compared to the ones specifically designed for use in a vehicle, but it would tackle some of the issues.
I have done this on my shepherds hut and it works perfectly. Now embarking on a campervan conversion and going round in circles deciding on best how water solution. The idea of creating an external cabinet for a tankless heater is very appealing as these heaters are so well priced, easily swapped out every few years and easy to hook up. I can see the constant movement in transit being a potential issue but won’t know til tried 🤷
@@RobCowan-hr1iy it's not complicated, cut a hole in the side of your van, make separate vents for intake and exhaust. Box it off so it's sealed from the interior, put the TWH in that box, . Basically just a poor man's Truma RV heater.
I have one fitted in my van , it's sealed from the living area with a flue and ventilation. It amazes me how much people hate them , they're actually allowed to be fitted in canal boats, British waterways and environment agency accept their continued installation. Guess common sense fitting and using is needed which isn't abundant in this country.
Great video! Although these heaters are a daft idea to fit in a van, unfortunately they have 2 key features that mean people will fit them despite the danger. - cheap - simple
I'm considering using a 4.4 KW tankless mini instant electric water heater for my van, to go all electric and avoid gas all together. does anyone know if this is a bad idea or good idea if i have a big enough battery storage?
You would need to be very careful about the specs of the batteries you would need to be able to provide the nearly 400 Amps at 12 volts or 200 Amps at 24 volts it would need. Plus a good quality 5kw inverter isn’t going to be cheap.
@@ExploreVanUK I guess the goal isn’t necessarily a tankless. But a fully electric van set up. What would you recommend for an electric water heating system?
Personally I don’t think I’d consider it viable, unless you are in a country with consistent sun all year. Then I’d look at using excess solar power to maintain the water temperature in an insulated tank, with a suitable immersion heater. Or you could cut out the electrical need with a solar water heating panel. But you would need to be conscious of the risk of legionaries diseases and ensure the water is kept at a safe temperature. In my opinion in a temperate country the only real options for heating space or water off grid consistently all year round are LPG, Diesel or heating from the Engine.
@@ExploreVanUK thank you for advice :) I live in Spain and am planning to have about 400ah battery, 400w solar with a ISOTEMP water heater that’s run off of the engine heat. But yeah it’s a real cog in the works. If I should just revert back to gas. I really like the idea of full electric off grid.
If heating off the engine using your isotemp? I don’t understand the need for an instantaneous electric heater? Isotemp also do a 12v stored water heaters so if you are confident you would have the solar input to cover that would be an option.
I literally never comment but ths video is amazing ! very helpful and the demos work perfect for simpltons like me! top job !!
Ditto - been poisoned by gas appliances in the past - illustrations really help to explain how.
Your the first channel ive heard someone say if you hit the thumbs down tell me why ,,,thats a great idea , very smart ,
Thanks, I’m always looking at ways to improve the channel so any feedback be it positive or negative is helpful!
Agreed from a fellow youtuber , i try and respond to every comment good or bad , if you dont have thick skin dont start a channel....👍👍
Thanks for the explanation. I'd never thought about the build up of carboxyhaemoglobin in the body due to its half-life, even with low concentrations of CO in the air. Now I know 👍
Been looking for exactly this! Thank you for taking the time to make this video- it perfectly explains what we all needed to hear👍🏻 wish I had saved more and got a Rinnai or likes but I didn’t so I will keep mine outside!!!
Mines on its way so have been considered fitment and this has convinced me to be nowhere inside. Ty. Oooh and ill be adding another roof vent 😊
I've made our shower an external one so the heater hangs on the inside of the rear door so when opened its actually outside and a shower tray slides out from the back of the van and a shower curtain hangs between the open doors on all four sides to keep the van dry and your dignity intact from the rest of the world. Just use a quick release gas fitting at the back of the van and you can disconnect the heater when you don't use it. Its a much safer way to do it and means you don't loose a large space inside the van to a shower.
Helpful video. Thanks,
Excellent video , spot on info .
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
Well explained, thank you for making this video
Thanks Keith - I wasn't going to post this one on the FB group as I imagine many will find it from the CO video - but feel free to pop it on if you want to.
@@ExploreVanUK I have shared this and pinned it to the top of the group, important video this one!
Thanks Keith!
I wonder if there's a way to rig these up so that you hang the actual tank outside when in use but can control it from the inside? So you still have your nice inside bathroom and the convenience of one of these heaters without the danger? Or I was thinking a sealed chamber on the back of your bathroom that is vented in the roof?
what a great Video! I had problems with symptoms of a low level CO and nitrogendioxide poisening with an indoor non flued gas heater. Now these gas heaters have a lot less power than a water heater, but they might run all day. I can't really comprehend how that's allowed and that was not inside a van, this was a 25square meter studio. HOwever I don't have problems with my gas stove. I think the gas heater creates an incomplete combustion, as the flame has to go a very complex way compared to the flame of the stove and might not pull enough oxygen. My CO detector said nothing - due to the thresholds. Seems my body's thresholds are a lot lower, which is good - otherwise I would have used the gas heater all winter long. However, I thought about a gas water heater for my bathroom combined with a venting pipe... however now I have to give it a second thought. I mean the shower needs a lot less time compared to the heater and I only would use it for showering, not for other hot water use, so it would maximum run one time a day. also I can keep the window open.. however, thanks for talking about this - I have the feeling people either tell you it's bad and don't explain why, or they say in case of the indoor gas heater it's fine - while I expierienced on my own body it is definitely not fine to use all day.
Great video
Thanks, excellent explanation. I am very wary of gas appliances, unfortunately the alternatives seem to be overly expensive. But what price safety?
Been looking at fitting one in a secure ventilated box on the outside of the rear doors & then plumb to shower & tap, can you see any issues with this
Hi - in my totally non-professional opinion I would say that was a good way to do it. I'm not sure how they would stand up to be shaken around during travel compared to the ones specifically designed for use in a vehicle, but it would tackle some of the issues.
I have done this on my shepherds hut and it works perfectly. Now embarking on a campervan conversion and going round in circles deciding on best how water solution. The idea of creating an external cabinet for a tankless heater is very appealing as these heaters are so well priced, easily swapped out every few years and easy to hook up. I can see the constant movement in transit being a potential issue but won’t know til tried 🤷
@@RobCowan-hr1iy it's not complicated, cut a hole in the side of your van, make separate vents for intake and exhaust. Box it off so it's sealed from the interior, put the TWH in that box, . Basically just a poor man's Truma RV heater.
Plenty of people have non room sealed (naked flame) gas hobs in their vans. So the problem is?
Guessing you’ve not watched the video, as that is explained in it, so not going to repeat here.
I have one fitted in my van , it's sealed from the living area with a flue and ventilation.
It amazes me how much people hate them , they're actually allowed to be fitted in canal boats, British waterways and environment agency accept their continued installation. Guess common sense fitting and using is needed which isn't abundant in this country.
Can you recommend a brand please
Great video! Although these heaters are a daft idea to fit in a van, unfortunately they have 2 key features that mean people will fit them despite the danger.
- cheap
- simple
Very true!
I'm considering using a 4.4 KW tankless mini instant electric water heater for my van, to go all electric and avoid gas all together. does anyone know if this is a bad idea or good idea if i have a big enough battery storage?
You would need to be very careful about the specs of the batteries you would need to be able to provide the nearly 400 Amps at 12 volts or 200 Amps at 24 volts it would need.
Plus a good quality 5kw inverter isn’t going to be cheap.
@@ExploreVanUK I guess the goal isn’t necessarily a tankless. But a fully electric van set up. What would you recommend for an electric water heating system?
Personally I don’t think I’d consider it viable, unless you are in a country with consistent sun all year. Then I’d look at using excess solar power to maintain the water temperature in an insulated tank, with a suitable immersion heater. Or you could cut out the electrical need with a solar water heating panel. But you would need to be conscious of the risk of legionaries diseases and ensure the water is kept at a safe temperature.
In my opinion in a temperate country the only real options for heating space or water off grid consistently all year round are LPG, Diesel or heating from the Engine.
@@ExploreVanUK thank you for advice :) I live in Spain and am planning to have about 400ah battery, 400w solar with a ISOTEMP water heater that’s run off of the engine heat. But yeah it’s a real cog in the works. If I should just revert back to gas. I really like the idea of full electric off grid.
If heating off the engine using your isotemp? I don’t understand the need for an instantaneous electric heater?
Isotemp also do a 12v stored water heaters so if you are confident you would have the solar input to cover that would be an option.
Anyone know about Room Sealed units for campers/motorhomes?