The Problem With RV Tankless Water Heaters.

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  • Today I wanted to share our thoughts and experience with RV tankless water heaters. They come with a fair amount of problems if you don’t know what you are getting into or know the best way to use them. We actually really like our RV tankless water heater but have learned how to use it best.
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  • @bryan565656
    @bryan565656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    We plumbers call it the sandwich effect when you start, stop and start a tankless water heater and get that burst of cold water. I installed a 18” section of 4” pvc reduced down to 1/2”on both sides to connect to the hot water line. This creates a little reservoir of hot water to absorb the sandwich effect.

    • @joellen3972
      @joellen3972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have this problem in my house system, because after I get started washing dishes, I only turn the water on to rinse. Otherwise it's off. Would this "18” section of 4” pvc reduced down to 1/2”on both sides to connect to the hot water line" be a suitable size for a house system? Would it prevent the luke warm water burst I get 2 minutes into each shower?

    • @judichristopher4604
      @judichristopher4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YOU are so smart!

    • @bryan565656
      @bryan565656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joellen3972 yes

    • @2009mechanic
      @2009mechanic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So you installed a 1 gallon accumulator for tempering changes in water temps by mixing them so you don't get that cold blast.
      Very clever.
      No recirculation pump needed , more efficient.

    • @maxfastest
      @maxfastest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brilliant !

  • @softdruid3712
    @softdruid3712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re really good at teaching. Clear, concise, good balance of tell and show. Just perfect-an instant subscribe. Thank you!

  • @jenniferappleton4944
    @jenniferappleton4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just love your channel. Your research of the issues you cover is thorough, which leads me to trust your information. Thanks!

  • @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt
    @ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Jared, to your points regarding tankless water heaters, I'd add the following:
    • *Flow rate* - The average shower flow rate is 2.1GPM/7.9LPM. Take that into consideration when choosing a tankless water heater. Can it deliver the quantity of water needed at the desired temperature?
    • *Temperature rise* - The average shower temperature is 105°F/40°C. Average municipal water supply is 55°F/13°C. A 50°F/10°C differential. Tankless water heaters are rated for a maximum temperature rise for a specific flow rate. Generally speaking, the higher the flow rate, the lower the maximum temperature rise. Also, if supply temperature is too low for the heater to deliver comfortable 105°F/40°C water...
    • *Supply pressure* - Tankless water heaters require a minimum supply pressure. Typically 30PSI/2.1BAR. Also, tankless water heaters operate best with a constant supply pressure, not the pulsating output of some water pumps. An accumulator tank might be needed for some applications.
    • *Elevation* - As with any propane appliance, performance begins to diminish over 2,500' above sea level and is pretty much none existent over 5,000'. For best performance, look for devices with automatic elevation compensation. Alternatively, obtain the appropriate replacement orifice for operation at higher elevations.
    Lastly, while your video covered RV-specific tankless water heaters, some might be tempted to opt for outdoor models. *These must not be installed/used in enclosed spaces!* Unfortunately, this is far too common an occurrence to ignore. So, if choosing a model other than Atwood, Girard, Suburban or Truma, be sure that it's an indoor model and properly vented to atmosphere.

    • @shimes424
      @shimes424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, a gas tankless coupled with an electric tank can be a great way to store excess solar energy if done right

    • @whynot2532
      @whynot2532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you got your information

  • @hillbillhillbill2409
    @hillbillhillbill2409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While wintering in the baken oil patch I put one in my 32' class A, before installing it I added a light bulb to the inside of the unit and a switch in the cabin. Then ran a 75 watt weather duty bulb, on the colder days and nights (20° down to -40°). Never had it freeze up and the first burst of water was always warm. ... HB

  • @williamquestmagic
    @williamquestmagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Jared, ( hope I spelled your name right ), I really appreciate your explaining the in's and out's of tank-less water heater usage in a RV. I assumed they operated on 110 volts and I was very confused on how these would work in the RV experience. Well you cleared that up and now I'm in tune with the tank-less features. As a single person I don't think this would be a need for me but with a family it sure makes sense. Thank you and keep those great , well presented, lessons on RV living. I appreciate it really BIG. bill in Florida

  • @broccolihash2010
    @broccolihash2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve been debating on Girard and then found Suburban and decided to go with it. Then your video popped up today and solidified my decision. Thanks for the great info!

    • @titbp4OPP
      @titbp4OPP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Build-It Brock hey did you install the suburban? I have and need a little help with wiring if you have a minute

  • @alexillsley8195
    @alexillsley8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Jared, it's good to see there are different options out there.

  • @fredfromboston812
    @fredfromboston812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks Jarret, this was the first video that I have seen actually doing a good review on the plus and minuses for instant hot water heaters. Thanks for the details.

  • @Kasylus
    @Kasylus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. Very informative and production quality is awesome. I'd add one thing: If planning on using the rv during the winter, get a tankless water heater with a winter mode to protect the unit from freezing. Thanks!

  • @landstormer4884
    @landstormer4884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My previous water heater was propane only. My current one is electric and/or propane. I am amazed how quick the water gets warm enough to shower with both the propane and electric on. Thanks for the great info. I will consider a unit like this in the future.

  • @dennysivells9977
    @dennysivells9977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a 2021 Grand Design and it has a tankless water heater. Haven’t even used it yet but I’m used to the old 6 gallon water heaters. This video brought me up to speed. Thanks.

  • @EndlessRVing
    @EndlessRVing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video and great comparison of the different offerings. We have had the Truma since last September and we are beyond happy with it. Never had an issue and it’s made showering a joy! I hear what you’re saying about the installation. We were at the Newmar service center getting service last September and Truma came right to Newmar and installed it while we were there so that was awesome. It’s definitely been worth the higher cost for us. Thanks for a great video! - MJ

  • @stevenedington8882
    @stevenedington8882 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jared, great video. I have the typical gas/electric Suburban 6 gal water heater. I was wondering about converting to tankless and now I know I should with your great educational/instructional guidance video. And when I checked Amazon, there is only a $100 difference between the standard Suburban water heater and the new tankless. I think I'll bite the bullet and press ahead with the tankless. Thanks again for a great video--I've been watching your channel now for 3 years and enjoy learning from a passionate RVer!

  • @erichaagen9973
    @erichaagen9973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Form and function and possible pitfalls are my main concerns when replacing or repairing anything at all. I appriciate the heads up on the differenes between models in which you have actually used for more than a hour or two. I watch you because of your real-world usage of products that you endorse and also your upfront transparency of the products that the company provided ( that will get an unbiased review). Keep up the great work and build memories that can't be replaced.

  • @jacktyler7599
    @jacktyler7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent topic, well covered. For comparison's sake, we have a Girard unit in a 24' Lance trailer, used mostly in the Rockies. It fires up in 2-3 seconds, so the additional 'lost water' is negligible. We see no benefit to mixing cold with hot water since the unit has a digital thermostat. Patricia likes 104F, while I prefer 102F...so set the thermostat and get exactly what you want by just using the hot water valve. As for that 'cold column of water' at start up and then when rinsing, Jared says he likes to use it on his face while we find it best used to rinse our legs (not so temperature sensitive). The point is that there are ways to adapt to a tankless system which minimize the issues while giving us the benefits.

  • @davidsprygada4550
    @davidsprygada4550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Being on a catamaran sailboat, water conservancy is critical, even with an unlimited amount of water to desalinate. Installing a residential three way diverter saves us over a gallon of water getting hot water from the “other side” of the boat. One selection goes to a shower head. The second to an adjustable shower bar. And the third goes back to the water tank. Run for thirty seconds and you have “instant HOT”. Zero wasted water, which is even more critical while boondocking.

    • @westmountainadventures3606
      @westmountainadventures3606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I love it when the boating community brings their knowledge and experience to the RVing community.
      I think the two are far more connected than most people realize.
      Thank you.

    • @gregoriosmith6994
      @gregoriosmith6994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's incredible, while I was watching the video, I was thinking the exact same thing about the diverter back to the tank. I am a cruising sailor and delivery captain. I am unfamiliar with the adjustable shower bar, exactly what is it? Great video however! Thanks

    • @a2cryss
      @a2cryss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I stayed at a house and it had a pump under the sink in the bathroom that you could press a button for that would simply pump the water from the hot line into the cold line for 1 minute to bring the warm water to the bathroom. I think that is kind of the same idea.

    • @billdelong
      @billdelong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the tip!
      Getting ready to buy our first RV and just started looking into the tankless options, I'll definitely use the diverter, this looks like a great way to keep the hot water going while lathering in the shower without wasting any water, though I suppose you'll burn a little more propane which appears to be nominal.
      Can't wait to RV with endless hot water!

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If someone was on top of things with arduino, I’ll bet it wouldn’t be terribly difficult to automate this process in an RV so the recirculating valve would stay open at first for a pre-determined number of seconds and then push the water through the shower. The automation would be sweet

  • @davidkaye2584
    @davidkaye2584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We have the Atwood. Have had several issues with cold to hot to cold to hot. Finally figured out we had to set our manual pressure regulator outside to no more then 42psi or the sensors on the inside would not read correctly and you would constantly get cold water.

  • @lainnorcal
    @lainnorcal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm absolutely doing this. Did a tankless at my house and it was amazing. Great video!

  • @HowToRV
    @HowToRV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for explaining that to me. I have been researching tank less water heaters but there isnt any really good real time experience videos that i could find and TRUST. Thanks for the information.

    • @AllAboutRVs
      @AllAboutRVs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jason! I got your email and will be in touch.

  • @nomadicratpack7886
    @nomadicratpack7886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all the information on the tankless hot water heaters I had no idea they could be that touchy in certain situations

  • @logun1970
    @logun1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought the Suburban IW60, didn't realize you have to buy the exterior door and vent completely separate of the water heater as well as each other. My gas line off my old Dometic runs all the way to the left side so I'm having to do some plumbing to get it connected. I've considered just using an appliance gas line to connect the old connection point to the water heater. Glad to find this video as it's the closest thing to an actual install video as I've found.

  • @byronewhite
    @byronewhite ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking recirculating pump myself and then you covered it. Won't install a tankless unit unless the cold wait time after lathering up can be solved. Thanks for the thorough report

  • @michaelsonleitner5724
    @michaelsonleitner5724 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jarrod for the very informative video. Now I need to check what tankless water heater was installed prior to taking possession of our TT. Your videos are really professional!

  • @bballguy162006
    @bballguy162006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Hi Jared, regarding your comment about a recirculation pump: An inexpensive and possibly less complicated alternative would be simply running a "T" fitting off of the hot line near your shower or fixture and run it back to your fresh water tank. Put a valve inline that is normally closed. When you open it, it will accomplish the same thing as running a faucet but it will dump the un-heated water back in the the storage tank. This way, you keep the limited resource of water within the sanitary fresh water system, instead of down the drain. A solenoid valve would be ideal, that way you just install a button near the fixture, hold it down for 10s before using the faucet and you should have no wasted water. Hope this is helpful. Thanks for the videos!

    • @byronewhite
      @byronewhite ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have that in my motorhome but in the bathroom, on the opposite side of the water heater. It is a 12v activated valve that dumps back into the water tank. Press it count to 10, let go and turn on your faucet. I call it the Elkmont Special. 😎

    • @JasonKnowsPodcast
      @JasonKnowsPodcast ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Has any evolution or enhancements in the past two years been made? You’d think it’d be a no-brainer for the system itself to recirculate before it releases that initial 10 second blast. Thus preventing a need to recirculate from the faucet. Recirculate from the source! Right?

    • @christinaholligan8299
      @christinaholligan8299 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you control the temperature by adding cold water coming in when using tankless.. or is it set to a specific temperature and no cold water can be added?

    • @rjsmith8392
      @rjsmith8392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@christinaholligan8299ya can adjust temp either way. Boondocking we adjust temp to use less water and only use hot knob, hooked up we use hottest setting and use cold water knob to increase water pressure and adjust temp.

    • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
      @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      recirc pump would be rad!

  • @hookedonhobbies9825
    @hookedonhobbies9825 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great explanation of these. I was thinking of getting one but your information about boondocking (pretty much all I do) has me reconsidering. Thanks for posting!

  • @cant-cook-can-cook
    @cant-cook-can-cook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ordered a new caravan here in Australia and it comes with the suburban hot water system, great video I know what to expect from the system now. Keep the videos
    coming I enjoy watching them and all the tips and hacks you post stay safe mate.

  • @wwjoestarr
    @wwjoestarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and good points that most won’t think about when going tankless 👍🏻

  • @TheSn1per
    @TheSn1per 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As expected, your review and explanation? Awesome! thanks for the up.

  • @kylepeden8036
    @kylepeden8036 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect. Thanks for sharing what you have learned. I'm looking to install one in my house boat here in Saraland AL. Thanks again !

  • @jamesstinett6291
    @jamesstinett6291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I’m a full time rv guy and totally off any grid, I haul all my water and do solar and gen for power, since I installed my girard tankless I seem to actually use less water as I only use the hot tap, have temp set where I want it before I constantly used 80 to 120 gallons of water a week now its in the 50 to 80 gallon range and I take longer showers the big difference is propane use about 60% less , I’ll never go back to a tank

    • @judichristopher4604
      @judichristopher4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What kind of water heater do you use?
      I "Flip" RVs (on my 25th one right now!!) I am keeping my 1972 Vintage Travel Trailer for myself and need a new water heater. I want to be able to be off grid and have solar too... I (think) I want a Electric water heater, because I'm 66 years old and truthfully do not want to tote heavy propane bottles around (I can do it, just don't want to as much, LOL).
      Thank you for your help.

    • @MarkRVillano
      @MarkRVillano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's a very smart move, and makes a ton of sense. Why keep the hot water temp up high if you need to mix it with an almost equal amount of cold water in order to get it back down to a comfortable temperature at the shower head? That's what we call addition by subtraction.
      Less Water + Less Propane = More Boondocking Time.

    • @carimanson5369
      @carimanson5369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Q

  • @Kjellmclean
    @Kjellmclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be installing my 1st tankless water heater this week. I can't wait to see if it lives up to the hype - I'm sure my son and I will love it! 👍

  • @jamesrougeau
    @jamesrougeau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!
    Very detailed, informative and paced just right amen! I live in a conversion and am torn between an RV style like yours or a single/pair of vertical wall mount types such as camping styles.

  • @klg1001
    @klg1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video Jarred, I learnt a lot. I didn’t realize there were so many different models on the market. My only concern was watching you tighten that gas fitting without a backup wrench. It’s always good practice to use a wrench or some type of pliers to hold the male fitting while you turn the nut in order to reduce stress on the fitting itself and prevent bending the internal gas line 👍

  • @earlribaudo4807
    @earlribaudo4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video. Very knowledgeable. We went to a tankless and love it. Ours is a Suburban . We go to Arizona for the winter, so we have hook up. Like taking long hot showers. But water pressure can be a problem. You should have around fifty lbs to have a consistent flow. Our pressure was a little low so our hot water was not as consistent as it should have been. But we survived and stayed clean. LOL.

  • @AllAboutRVs
    @AllAboutRVs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    UPDATE: To keep everyone updated with our current water heater, we are having issues with a consistent water temp from the Suburban tankless water heater. We hope to figure it out but we are having a problem with the temp holding steady for more than a few minutes and then with no change at the faucet or use the temp will swing up 5 or 6 degrees or down 5 or 6 degrees. I will let you know if we can resolve the problem.

    • @aaronlittle611
      @aaronlittle611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the update! Have you reached out to customer service and if so how has that been? I have been looking to purchase this water heater but since it is a fairly new model it is hard to find reviews so very interested in your take on everything. Thanks!

    • @freebird1963
      @freebird1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sure its not the incoming water pressure coming in to it ? Many won't operate if the pressure falls below a certain psi and maybe thats it.

    • @earlribaudo4807
      @earlribaudo4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We have the I60 and we winter in AZ. We have the same problem. Are park has low water pressure. It's at 38 lbs. The repair guy said for the water heater to work properly, it should be at 45lbs at the lowest point otherwise it will fluctuate. So I took off the pressure gauge, with 38lbs, we don't have to worry about busting lines. That did help. Now we have hot water ninety percent of the time.

    • @scottmichael7178
      @scottmichael7178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was wondering if you ever figured out the problem. Ive went through 2 of these within a year span. The first one would turn off and on and fluctuate temps so amazon sent me another after i couldnt get a hold of anyone at suburban or airxcell. Ive had this one for 6 months or so and now the temps will shoot way down and then go back up and be good for a few minutes, then get cold for another second. Its like it shuts down very quickly and turns back on. The ambient temp has been much cooler than before( around 41 degrees) and am wondering if that has something to do with it. Any thoughts would be much appreciated !!!

    • @svroundabout
      @svroundabout ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We love our truma comfort plus. Consistent hot water. No cold issues. We have a water miser at the shower.

  • @Richard-53
    @Richard-53 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep up the great information n videos you provide

  • @davidmorris2234
    @davidmorris2234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Probably the best comparison of products I have ever watched on TH-cam! Great job, and thanks for doing this. I'm in the process of converting a 2001 Aljo Toy Hauler into a mobile dog grooming salon, and have been swamped with trying to figure out which water heating solution would be best. With the help of this video, I'm much closer to making the decision on which tankless propane water heater to get, so thanks again.

  • @drlong08
    @drlong08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for putting this out there!!! Detailed info, reasoning, some experienced feedback on use. Was concerned on what a flow rate would do with these units, too low and do they not work so great (like some residential units) but hope that since they are for RV's the lower flow rate is taken into consideration. My old Suburban conventional one is shot so looking to upgrade where possible.

  • @gaetansimard1594
    @gaetansimard1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your always very interesting video, one of the best Chanel’s for RVers. I have a standard water heater and like the previous comment, I turn it On in the morning for about 15 mins and good for the rest of the day. It stay hot/warm a long time in this insulated tank it is surprising. In the evening If I want hot water for a shower I do the same thing. If I want to heat-up realy fast, in campground I can put propane and electric at the same time. I think that by only turning On the water heater for 15 mins at the time reduce wear and scale build-up. But I mostly RV alone...it would be different If I had a wife and children to manage with the water heater I supposed 😉 but in a RV, unless you have a recirculating loop, you will always have to waste some water before you have hot water at faucets. You have to manage this water and use it for other task, especially when you boom dock. Cleaning your teeth, dishwashing, coffee etc.

  • @loujohnson6143
    @loujohnson6143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We are so spoiled. Any kind of hot water is a luxury. Like some of us we started camping in a tent or just under the stars.

  • @groundshotsproject
    @groundshotsproject 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so helpful as i am renovating my airstream and am trying to figure out what to get. thanks!

  • @lyndaphillips9064
    @lyndaphillips9064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done with both pros and cons. Thank you.

  • @angeladial8325
    @angeladial8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You!!! Just what I was looking for in helping us decide! 👍

  • @gibby0914
    @gibby0914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have had three truma water heaters and have loved every one!

    • @reberhardt
      @reberhardt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God & Country We have the AquaGo on our Riverstone

  • @Betlenut
    @Betlenut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I noticed you cleaned off the caulking using a metal razor blade. I have purchased plastic blades which I use to make sure to never scratch the paint. I've also used them to take off long sticker graphics from the sides of my class A that would normally be a big pain to remove without causing damage to the outside walls. Also, Teflon tape for gas fittings, also known as gas-rated Teflon tape, is yellow in color and clearly states it is for gas lines and connections. The tape works on all gas line types, including butane, propane and natural gas lines.

  • @karenmariahernandez
    @karenmariahernandez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are so informative! Thank you.

  • @bthomas815
    @bthomas815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! Thanks for sharing your expertise regarding tankless water heaters. I am researching replacing my 6 gal water heater on my Airstream with a tankless. Your information was very useful. You have a new subscriber!

  • @LeitchBlake
    @LeitchBlake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just scheduled an appointment with Truma. Can’t wait!

  • @boynextdoor240
    @boynextdoor240 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video, saved me from switching my new system out. Definitely a dealbreaker wasting that cold water in the beginning, as we boondock a lot

    • @AllAboutRVs
      @AllAboutRVs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you want a tankless the Truma is worth a look. Zero wasted water with its features. th-cam.com/video/fhVusjZgWQY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Nk6bmZKP4pgzBU0t

  • @marktemkin2474
    @marktemkin2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jarred for another informative video.
    Are warm up process is probably one that many have already done which is to shower with a bucket and fill it with the cold then dump it back in the water tank or use it for filling the toilet which being from drought stricken Cali is how we use our shower water to do are part and flush our toilet with it. 😉

  • @victorlopez2143
    @victorlopez2143 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the info.....Thinking about switching over to a tankless water heater since the last time we went camping with the 'Family' - 3 females adults, one teenage granddaughter and one grandson(4yr old)..Ran out of hot water - completely forgot that we ONLY had a 6 gals....Everyone was complaining....😢😢😢😢😢

  • @rickl6697
    @rickl6697 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our bathroom, tub/shower is directly above the 10 gallon water heater and our hot water is only 3 to 5 seconds away. I have a tankless at home and would love to go back to a tank water heater at home and have no desire to have a tankless in our RV. What you described about using the shower and pausing the flow and then you get 7 seconds of cold water,noooo thank you. Love your channel and reviews. Safe travels.

  • @kenhuth1762
    @kenhuth1762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, I ordered my Oliver Travel Trailer with the Truma. I never had a cold water blast when shutting off/on the water during a shower.

    • @AllAboutRVs
      @AllAboutRVs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Truma does a great job with that problem with the mixing vessel

  • @Yukonjackman1
    @Yukonjackman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you miss you on the original one.

  • @GregoryWingham
    @GregoryWingham 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought a new camper with a Girard Tankless. First time use, I did not like it. \ It was pretty cold outside and it took what seemed like a very long time for the water to heat up. I was using tank water and I was wasting the precious resource. Thanks for the great info! I think it will be very helpful.

  • @agm6095
    @agm6095 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our 2022 Entegra Vision motorhome came with a tankless heater, I think it's a Girard, and we don't like it at all. A lot of water has to run in the shower before it gets hot, then it goes cold and then back to hot. I like the tank type water heater we had on our old motorhome, it gave us consistent hot water and it would recycle very quickly. Thanks for your video.

  • @reberhardt
    @reberhardt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We were quoted a $1400 to install the Truma. There’s two switches on the Truma. You can set the inside switch to ECO, Regular, off, and clean. Winterization is very easy. Just open the drain. The present RV came with the AquaGo.

  • @gailjohnson6670
    @gailjohnson6670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info. Thank you. Blessings in your days.

  • @jimp3222
    @jimp3222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video we’re going to go tankless as well thanks for the comparison

  • @_graymatters
    @_graymatters ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was super helpful :) Thank you!

  • @philsmith5400
    @philsmith5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Maybe you adrerss this later, but the Truma has a "Comfort" setting, and a small storage tank that works well to minimize water loss

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this. Much appreciated!

  • @brettgoodall5171
    @brettgoodall5171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a great show. Thank you.

  • @cindyrose4155
    @cindyrose4155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We boondock often, we run the water into a bucket next to the shower, when we turn it off and on during the shower, again, we let it flow into the bucket. Then we use the water in the bucket for washing dishes or flushing toilets. We don’t let a drop of water go to waste! Thank you.

  • @garylovio1180
    @garylovio1180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Thank you very much for all that excellent information!

  • @CAIRNTraveler
    @CAIRNTraveler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jared!! Great info on this!! Was looking into these down the road and now know what to consider!

  • @johnpavon799
    @johnpavon799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANKS FOR THE VIDEO it take away the mystery!

  • @3ForTheRoadRV
    @3ForTheRoadRV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks to the stimulus pay, we were able to get our unit put in. We have never been happier! There is only 3 of us so the 42,000 BTU Girard has worked great for our needs. We don't mind adjusting the temp up and down for different uses. We already know that when we upgrade our trailer we will either be negotiating one to be put in or taking this one with us. We paid $1000 for the unit and complete install and removal of old unit. We don't have the knowledge to do it ourselves, so it was worth it to us.

  • @Amratlal1
    @Amratlal1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very honest review i like it keep it up need more person like you

  • @EvolutionDIY
    @EvolutionDIY ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.

  • @stevenhamman85
    @stevenhamman85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative-thank you!

  • @jamesforler6897
    @jamesforler6897 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a furrion unit and full time for the last year. I’m at 25 degrees outside this winter. I have hot water in 1-3 minutes. I can add cold water to increase water pressure. Temp stays regular with very little fluctuation.
    I use a freeze miser to keep the water in the hose line at 37 degrees. Furrion heats it up to 124 degrees fairly easily. I’ve been happy with it.

  • @jasonpatterson947
    @jasonpatterson947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and honest review. Giving both pro and con of all units... Just as I agree there is. A++++ video.

  • @mind5533
    @mind5533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. We have the Gerard and have had all the same issues. Without hookups, I’ll run my sink to start the water and fill a cup then turn in the shower and turn off the sink. Or, I fill the dog’s water which we keep in the shower anyway. We can do all this while standing in the shower because we have a very tiny bathroom. Our RV is in the shop right now for the water heater not working. If it’s needing replacement, I might just have to upgrade. That is for a great video.

  • @doyleshaw3063
    @doyleshaw3063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have an electric on demand on my motorhome, works great. Especially if we bath the way you explained.

    • @judichristopher4604
      @judichristopher4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What kind of water heater do you have... and what size?
      Thank you for your help.

  • @alexgrech4420
    @alexgrech4420 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the idea set you hot water temperature and just turn the hot water tap on and enjoy life

  • @preciousseouls861
    @preciousseouls861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information. Thanks for sharing!

  • @CecilDale
    @CecilDale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation. Thanks for the insight.

  • @GarciasOnWheels
    @GarciasOnWheels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's the shower head we have too! We got the Gerard based on your last video a last year. good to know there are some other good options!

  • @papapotatofbchannel7037
    @papapotatofbchannel7037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Easy fix, add a recirculation system to each fixture with switch or Bluetooth control. Switch it on before water use and instant hit water. Any plumber can do it.

  • @brendaswann7292
    @brendaswann7292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank your, as always for sharing your research. I am looking to have a recirculating on demand system for showering. I hope the day happens when I have the chance to sit around a fire and talk living as a boondocker. ... 👏🏽🇨🇦🚌🇨🇦👏🏽

  • @frenterr
    @frenterr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terry French I have a Furrion hot Water Heater, in my 337rls Reflection and it works great but I installed a 12 v water solenoid in between the hot water line going to the kitchen sink and routed it back in to the fresh water tank with a on and off switch. This way you don't lose a drop of water, it returns back to the fresh water tank, when the water gets hot ( you can time how long it takes to get hot) you turn the switch off and the hot water go's to the tap. This works great when you show also.

    • @AllAboutRVs
      @AllAboutRVs  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a great idea.

  • @plrpilot
    @plrpilot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We have a water saver on our shower. It’s great and would save you from the hot/cold cycles. It just redirects the water from the shower head to the fresh water tank. It’s how we fill our fresh water tank, too. We just run a cold “shower” through it for about 10 mins before we leave a campsite.

    • @shanedenmark5536
      @shanedenmark5536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you explain this a little more? I don’t understand…

  • @garylantz3322
    @garylantz3322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I haven’t read all the posts, (so might have been mentioned already), but I would think the perfect system in an rv would be using the same solution as with a home: a hybrid system. This is where a tankless unit fills a holding tank. Water is drawn from this tank. This allows for endless warm water and less wear and off/on of the tankless heater.

    • @dingfeldersmurfalot4560
      @dingfeldersmurfalot4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's what I was thinking too, having heard that recommended before.

    • @J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams.
      @J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its called the Truma AquaGo Comfort....
      As Jared stated the Truma Aquago 'Comfort' has a setting which keeps 1 liter of water heated at all times. To conserve LP the "Comfort" model also features an 'eco' mode. In eco mode water is heated on-demand like the base model Aquago and most other on-demand systems.
      I've become used to washing my hands with cold water most of the year. In winter the heated underbelly keeps the PEX lines warm. When I turn on the tap the water is actually warm. To further conserve water I use diluted hand soap (30% soap to 70% water). Lather your hands before turning on the tap to rinse.
      The dishwasher, washing machine, and bidet heat their own water. By the time hot water reaches the dishwasher it's just about done filling. On the rare occasion I need to wash laundry in hot I'll use the water heater. Everything in my unit is electric except for the water heated.
      In my case it doesn't make sense to leave the Truma on until I take a shower just before bed or when I need hot water for other tasks. A simple turn for the control dial turns the water heater on. To sanitize my coffee mug or something else I simply use the electric kettle.
      Upgrading to the Truma AquaGo Comfort and adding the CheapHeat (variable output 5000W electric coil) furnace add-on were the absolute best modifications. On average I refill one 40# LP tank every four months. If the power goes out I simply flip a switch to run the furnace in LP mode and still have on-demand hot water.......that is until the batteries run out of juice. Knock on wood.... power has always been restored before the batteries run out. If a storm is forecasted I top off the two 40lb LP tanks and ensure the batteries are fully charged. The one upgrade I have on the list to do is converting the refrigerator compressor to 12v. But I'll wait until this one quits or the refrigerator requires major repair. I don't dry camp often enough to warrant changing out a perfectly functioning component.
      In my opinion tankless is king. I'll never go back to wasting energy and waiting for a tank full of water to heat up.😢

  • @danwaddle2194
    @danwaddle2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a cold water mix with my Girard II. No issues. Mine was installed in Mar 2020.

  • @thomasdipaolo2349
    @thomasdipaolo2349 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another outstanding video. Thanks for the info

  • @zannemairiwoods528
    @zannemairiwoods528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tutorial !

  • @badactor3440
    @badactor3440 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Suburban, propane only water heater. I removed the anode rod and installed a HotRod electric powered heating element in its place. I removed the pressure relief valve and reinstalled the anode rod there instead. I was able to keep the pressure valve by using a coupling and a T-fitting. Now I have a hybrid heater that works off solar and propane, but I very rarely need the propane anymore. It's one of the best upgrades I've done so far and it has paid for itself many times over by not using propane. Can't beat having instant, free hot water 24 hours a day.

  • @ChrisStocker1
    @ChrisStocker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, I just re-watched your tankless water heater video about an hour ago and then you put this one out. Perfect timing.

  • @WILDEBILL308
    @WILDEBILL308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video on tankless water heaters. I am now officially spoiled, I have a Oasis system now.

    • @stevecarr1992
      @stevecarr1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's that? 🤔
      Sounds heavenly 😋

  • @normsimpson2342
    @normsimpson2342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to think about it...sounds good for the washer/dryer....

  • @calburnIII
    @calburnIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Truma AquaGo Comfort Plus in my 2018 PleasureWay Ascent. I can’t say enough good about it-it’s really great. With the built in circulation pump, decent hot water is available within a couple of seconds at the kitchen faucet and immediately at the bathroom faucet. Winterizing it is a snap-it has a huge drain that eliminates any water in it. The outlet temperature is fixed at 120F, so mixing with cold is essential for showering but less necessary for just washing dishes or hands. The decalcification process is automatic (takes 4 tablets), but the clean out process afterwards takes more water than Truma says it will, maybe as much as 3 times as much. But that’s only done once a year or every 1500 gallons, whichever comes first. Anyway, I love my Truma. I would never replace it with any other brand.

  • @Narnian77
    @Narnian77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Future Newebie, here. Subscribed not too long ago, and learning a ton. Thanks, Jared, for putting out such great content!
    Now that we know a lot about tankless water heaters, do you feel moved to make one about installing an ShowerMiser (AquaMiser?) or AquaView water recovery system? We lean toward a Class A, and would love to install a tankless, and recovery system if it does not have these.
    Thanks!!!

  • @johnbutler2231
    @johnbutler2231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a series on measuring and building a battery bank with charging solar array as well.

  • @jeremyspecce
    @jeremyspecce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the insight!

  • @tomaustin4526
    @tomaustin4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent information. I feel when the time comes to replace my RV water heater I can do it myself with confidence now ❤️👍😊🌎 thanks for sharing and safe travels

  • @62impalaconvert
    @62impalaconvert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like our tank water heater because you can adjust the hot and cold faucets any way you want, just like at home. My tankless (on another rig) was hard to control the temp (no temp display) and it seemed to change temps all by itself. Wife and I have never had a cold shower and we have never needed to have the propane and electrical on together but it is nice to know you can if you need to.

    • @YeshuaKingMessiah
      @YeshuaKingMessiah ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s no temp control on RV water heaters
      I wish
      They’re way too hot!

  • @mmwandereverywhere8584
    @mmwandereverywhere8584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Truma and love it.

    • @mmwandereverywhere8584
      @mmwandereverywhere8584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has a setting to keep the water hot or keep it warm in eco mode. You get the hot water almost instantly in the normal mode

  • @C5turbo
    @C5turbo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good honest video. I just got a new RV with my first tankless water heater. I really don't like it because of the cold spirts every time I stop and start the water in the shower. Do you think I could just change it to a regular tank style pretty easy like you've shown?