Liverpool's Original Gangster: Michael Showers | True Crime Podcast 129
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Came here to see Wild Man in his last podcast :'( Such a sad day, Rest in Peace big man, you were an amazing character! Fly high brother, fly high!
Regards
🙏only discovered wildman after his passing, but still feel sad watching him knowing he's passed away. God bless you wildman
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@@eoinobriain7873 Hiya buddy. Hope your well & you've mentioned my name but other than that no reply. Have you got something to say too me my friend, if so would love to hear it Eoin👍
Mr Michael Showers: Chess player and classical music lover, with a posh Liverpudlian accent = A definite Original Gangster from Liverpool. A rather refined one too.
Refined? He was pure scum!
Brilliant interview, refreshing in a way to have a man who doesn’t like the sound of his own voice. He answered whatever was asked.
So true. Polar opposite of Stephen French who did not stop rambling on for hours.
It’s the difference between the old school respectable men like showers and the drug fuelled modern day loud mouths like Frenchie.
@@DDavy2014 yeah yeah right 😆
Such a shame that Howard Marks has passed on, he'd of been a legendary guest to have
Very true!
He would have been a good 1.
I enjoyed it. Michael is understated, matter-of-fact, gentlemanly. Having lived to a ripe age he has an interesting biography but isn't bothered about painting it lurid. Seen so much he can take it all in his stride. I like that.
I was born in Toxteh and left Liverpool many years ago it was the best decision I have ever made. Liverpool was never given a chance by the political party’s and Margaret Thatcher despised the city. Liverpool was on the decline and after the 80s riots it went completely downhill, both Conservatives and Labour are responsible for the state it is in today. It’s still smells of the old Liverpool. I did have some childhood memories but sadly I would never like to go back. The politicians have a lot to answer for.
I was also born in Liverpool and left in 1966 and have never regretted leaving. You left out the unions and the communists who fucked up the City more than anyone.
@@1jlavin whoever came in power destroyed Liverpool.
If you don’t mind me asking where did you move to?
@@thepoet100 Toronto, Canada
As much as I despise politicians, bureaucrats and political parties I would haver to disagree with you. People destroy themselves and everything around them if that is the path they decide on although politicians of all stripes promote envy and jealousy...........ie: vote for me and I will make your rich neighbour pay leaving out the part of course where they skim off the top for themselves.
Watch this clip of Morgan Freeman being interviewed by scumbag Don Lemmon..........interview starts at minute 1.26.
Underneath all the lipstick on the City of Liverpool these days lies the same old tired attitudes of envy and jealousy.
@@1jlavin I do agree with certain points you mentioned here.
However the politicians impose laws on the ordinary person, we don’t have many rights, unlike the rich and elite the laws are rigged in their favour.
I will have a look at the video you recommended.
@@1jlavin I agree John, one of the reasons my Dad dreaded docking in His home town in the 60,s as a Merchant Seaman , stuck for weeks on end Being either Unloaded or loaded To continue is onward Journey around the World ;(
RIP Dad................................................
I remember Michael showers , driving down Lawrence road, always stopped and talked to us , very intelligent man , and very well respected. 10 ETA ,
RIP Wildman. Only discovered you and Shaun the past few months, subscribed and spent many hours enjoying these podcasts. Lovely bloke but my god, wouldn't like to mess with the big man.
After enjoying many hours of getting to know the stories and watching him interview people with Shaun it really feels like a friend has gone, and that says a lot about someone's character.
RIP brother, you will live on forever as one of Britain's legendery hard men.
Watched this guy this morning, on Liverpool Narcos. Fantastic watch a true gentleman 🙏. Wildman missed,but always with us💪
Great interview. Feel like Michael Showers has so many more stories to tell. Might be worth having him on again.
Great guest. Fascinating story, respectful guy. Last two episodes have been top notch.
Wild man is a proper clued up fella would love a pint with him
Shawn , loving your work mate keep it coming!! 👍👍 Wildman if your reading this everyone would love to have a best mate like you, you should think about doing an autobiography as well, take care guys!!👊👊✨
Shaun
Please stop all the wild man critique, he's obviously trying, his mates trying to look after him.
Well said Paul.
Yip, totally agree , how many people would share the experience with there best friend, Not ever one is lucky enuff to have such a long history
Ain't they fuckes we knew nothing god bless wildman
Such a trouble ridden start in life, really feel for him. Well done Shaun he a great chap but I could tell it was a challenging interview for you!
loved that one cheers guys...
Fantastic interview i thoroughly enjoyed it.
Such a polite well spoken man but with a real powerful presence at the same time.
Good to see wildman too 👍
Fantastic guest, would be great to have his brother on as well. When will the second Darren Jeffery interview be shown?
Credit to Shaun and Wildman for making this work! Showers understandably reserved, but it was phenomenal interview skills to get something out of this. Enjoyed it.
Wildman’s reaction at 58:24 is hilarious 😂
Enjoyed it made a change for short and sweet answers with no window dressing. Be interested in the book it’s hard to interview about stuff he was never caught for.
great guest to have on !
The cops in Liverpool hated this guy why because he spoke better than them dressed better than them and the thing they hated most was the white women loved him RESPECT Mr Showers
Allegedly he forced himself onto White women.
Hey Shaun, Wildman, and guest. Waiting for outcome of who our president will be and anxiety is horrible. So glad to see you guys!😊
Don't think you'll get an outcome this year unless Trump wins Nevada
It doesnt matter who wins... Red or Blue are just colours.
Bush gave way to Obama, Obama gave way to Trump.
They are all the same. We just have Twitter now
most intelligent guest you've had on so far
@@craigg4219 According to his truth he didn't flood his community with smack. He only distributed Cannabis. Also he did heist against corporate entities. Like he said toxteth at one time was a no smack/H/C zone. The intelligent comment was about his speech and ability to communicate his perspective.
@@craigg4219 He would have to embellish upon this topic. But the man just said he wasn't a heroine dealer. Do you have any more information about that particular case besides a Wikipedia article?
@@craigg4219 I do know this. That he was not arrested with drugs on his person. This was a conspiracy case.
@@craigg4219 btw what is intelligence?
@@craigg4219 Is that illega 😑
GET JIMMY CORKHILL ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Sinbad
Hahahaha brilliant
you'll find him in the Lisbon - Liverpool Gay Pub
Yea cut out the middle man.
I met Jimmy Corkhill in Liverpool. Me & the missus were looking for our hotel & she stopped this guy for directions & it was him. I only twiged it was him when he started talking.
Shaun I remember that rave in the scrap yard in the late 80s in toxteth
Amazing
True Old School Gangster. Great conversation.
Rubbish
@@carlpalios-potts5328 Whats rubbisb?
@@sampson3272 short word answers. Didnt get much of a conversation outta him. A Waste really!!
@@carlpalios-potts5328 Only because we're not studying. Your looking for an exciting story. The story is before your eyes 4 prison stints later, that man is sitting there in his right mind. That man isn't informing on people he knew, some of which are dead and gone; just to give us a story.
That man is so at peace with who he is and what he's done; he doesn't speak to be looked at as someone great, based on some shit he did 30 years ago.
Thats what you get out of it.
If you get pinched, plead not guilty and fight for your freedom. Take the rap, even the one they set you up on and don't inform. Or battle it out..
He's just a man, but he lived that shit as a liberated one...
@@carlpalios-potts5328 u clown 🤡
Good video
Rip Wilde man 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Always enjoy when Wildman is on with a new podcast guest, good questions and good banter.
I think Stephen French tries his best to be like Michael but is lacking the intelligence and manners
Stephen french isn't stupid mate
How about his mate Alfie Lewis
More class than frenchie
Remember picking Mr showers up at Manchester jail and both of us going up to parkurst ,1998 never saw him since was telling me all about is rolls Royce cars he had bought
This was excellent interview with micky showers you and wildman were great i grew up in l8 lpool and it was a great place and still is the people there are great aswell well done shaun wildman is very sadly missed i would of loved to have known him a sound.down to earth guy RIP wildman you are very sadly missed god bless you
Showers is clearly old school and therefore quite guarded sadly this means that the interview has many quickfire questions with short answers
I agree mate he didnt seem to want to elaborate on questions asked about his stories. Shame but decent podcast all the same .
th-cam.com/video/IEU0GxlOLeg/w-d-xo.html Michael Showers in 1986 showing that this isn't just a persona he's adopted to rehabilitate himself. Even as a fairly young man at the height of his criminality he was very well spoken and extremely committed to his political ideals. Really makes you wonder what he could have been and done with his life had he been given more positive influences and opportunities as a youth. Shaun would be great if you could get him back to speak more on his politics and time as a community leader, and how he sees the situation now.
I've never read so much bollocks. He was scum and it was his choice to be who he was
Michael is the proper old school, intelligent and well spoken.
The system still made him look like an alter boy with it heinous corruption.
Wild man and Michael are like the yin and yang of spoken English.
How come no question about being locked up in Turkey?
I feel this interview was strained Micheal hasn't opened up like the rest of them this interview should have came after his Life story book, Shaun is asking limited questions with dry answers, my Family were from L8 I was brought up in the bullring away from Toxteth but my mum always said the black community were great People the Family's were very respectful and there children had seen how there parents were treated like shit and that's why they rebelled because they were standing up for there rights, my family are Chinese and we're suffered racism growing up it was part of Liverpool.
Gotta respect how he has few things to say about others he knew and did buisness with. It seems to me that the man is content with who he is. Unlike many who throw up all over the pod cast, in an attempt to prove themselves...
Racism is...'part' of everywhere, sadly
@@sampson3272 cough cough Stephen French cough. 😆
When you said bullring, I knew you meant Chinatown not myrtle house or Sidney gardens. He's saying little. Some of the things him and delroy got up to were pure evil. Worse than the smak. A lot black guys from L8 go5 treated the same, caught bird same as him. They never did what he did. I've got good memories of Pitt st, good people
I met Michael showers in full Sutton in 94 95 96 he’s nice guy very down to earth I was F wing back then he was B wing if I remember right and we use to chat in education on cookery classes.
Can't wait for this one!
I only learnt of wildman after his passing. So even tho i didn't know him i can't help but feel it's a more sad world without him in it. Also watching the podcasts with wildman in i get the sad feeling when watching knowing he's passed on. I just hope he's up there living wild like he did down here. I'm kinda skint at the moment (like everyone with the price rises) but can i still purchase a wildman t-shirt funds allowing? I can still watch the podcasts with wildman in them but there tinged with sadness. Only wish i discovered him before his passing. Rest in peace fella 🙏
About time you put the og of toxeth on hope you ask him some questions on ste french and hope he answers them with honesty keep it up Shaun
Seems like a gent without a put on accent like so many have now Good interview
Nice job
I was serving 11 years at Rye Hill before it became a nonce jail and met a black lad who I become friends with as we're both scousers. He was serving 17 years for armed robberies. We where both working in the kitchens one day talking about the Curtis Warren book 'cocky' I brought Micheal showers up as he's mentioned in the book and this lad would know more bc he's from Toxteth, and asked him whether it was true that his mother was killed as a warning to keep his mouth shut as the book says. The blood drained from his face. He pulled me aside as other people where around. It was him who knocked down his mum when he was juvenile! He told me it was a stolen car, he was driving around sefton Park and his mother just stepped in front and it was a total accident which I believe 100%. Apparently, no retribution was sought, as he was a juvenile i suspect. I asked him if he went to prison for it as I know he was arrested for it but he never. I never pushed it further bc I could see it was heavy for him, so I dont know if his youth prevented it or whether he denied it. I still class him as a good lad and mate, and we met up a few times once we was both out.
But I felt gutted when I heard Micheal say his mother was killed the day after he was sentanced.
This is the first time I've seen Micheal Showers in an interview and I'm taken aback by his poise and dignified character. Big respect to him.
Why do you think it was it heavy for the guy?
What was his name?
@@naeyahwarri5784 bc he spent yrs not knowing if he was gonna paid back. He did get some trouble from a boyfriend of a girl related to Michael. Nothing major, he just bullied him when he was young as he was older. Mad thing is; is that guy was in there with us, but they'd sorted it by then.
@@naeyahwarri5784 doesn't matter what is name is
@@naeyahwarri5784 and because he's a good lad. So killing an old lady doesn't exactly sit well with him. Remember, he was just a kid; it would of been traumatic for him as well
Good one all involved! enjoyed that
I was only young about 8 and I was having heart surgery at mirthl street hospital and I could hear the riots at night
Mertyl street*
@@user-rw1ii4oc5q what
@@user-rw1ii4oc5q *Myrtle 😉
Always well spoken like his brother Deleon x
Delroy
"Misjustice of carriage" classic Wildman 👌 RIP...
good to see Wildman, I enjoyed listening to Michael Showers, he did not expand any more than was polite. I have the idea that Michael was is a gentleman compared to many others. One would expect Michael to be respected by sides of those day's criminal circles.
I can assure you he was no gentleman
Brilliant. Michael showers straight up top bloke. They don't make em like that anymore. 🙌
😂 He was scum.
My uncle is proper and connected all over the world and highly intelligent. Love you uncle Mike your nephew C
How is Mike doing these days? Sound guy. Tell him I was asking about him if you see him please it be good to know. I used to work with him at sainsburys depot in Haydock a good few years ago now but he used always chat to me when I wasn't working in chill side so he should remember me. I was there a good 10 years in all xx
I Remember Michael&his family from me growin up I was only a child hes always been a powerful man & still is today in 2021..
💙 from Liverpool
Really? 😂
Looking forward to my employee Jamie Boyle writing Michaels book soon.
Don't forget to mention all the smack. 👍
@@thedogsbollocks7096 clown
Good guy with a big rep back home... Humble gentleman
Yes Wildman !!!!!!!!!!
3:25 big fellas laugh 😂
For all those interested in Liverpudlian Gangster nostalgia , there's a great picture showing Mick Getting out of his White Rolls Royce outside the armadillo tea rooms in Matthew Street (Know known As the Flanagans Apple Pub) in 1980
The same car would be burnt out less than a year later during the Toxteth riots!
I'd been in that car
For those people watching who think this is a boring interview, what you need to understand is Michael is a Wiley character because he knows that the government/law enforcement would love to have him banged up again. He's obviously very well, " Self educated". Michael's Problem was, he was becoming very popular within Liverpool 8 and was trying to put the youth on a smarter path, the government/law enforcement didn't want that, that is why he was stitched up/falsely accused of tbe powder charge. Michael was no an angel but was simply becoming to popular and if he would have succeeded in teaching the local youth to calm down the government wouldn't have been able to fill their prisons, which would have cost the corrupt legal system millions and they couldn't have a blackman messing with their money, it's that simple. Plz don't jump on my comment saying, " Michael Showers is this. Michael Showers is that". On Merseyside, we know who Michael is and we know of his past. Like i said, Michael is no angel but he's never said he is.
Michael Showers is to long in the tooth to come onto a platform and start talking about his past glories. Anyone who'd been falsely accused and found guilty knows the government would love him to die in prison. Decent interview tbh
They got him out of L8 and got rid of any community... divide and conquer still prevalent.
Well put...
Sexy "Rex Makin" a Liverpudlian legend in the legal Profession!
Represented My Mam when she was estranged from my Dad during the mid and late 1970,s
RIP Rex, his Son has now taken over the realm ;)
Old school gangster...Dont make them like him anymore...Really good podcast...
Yeah like flooding your community with snack and crack. Gentlemen. 👏🙄
@@thedogsbollocks7096 He sold cannabis/not "smack" and did heist against corporations.
@@sampson3272
Lad you're totally wrong, i lived in the area, i know what they sold.
Both the showers brothers sold smack and coke.
@@thedogsbollocks7096 Answer This! You say you lived in the area. Did you see them engage in the selling of these drugs?
@@sampson3272
Direct quote... From the liverpool echo ablut the trial..
"The man who had campaigned so loudly to keep drugs out of Toxteth was masterminding a plot to flood the streets with heroin.
The dad-of-five was caught after a joint operation between British police and customs and their counterparts on the Indian sub-continent led to the seizure of 12kg of the drug
Game over soft lad. 👍
Just discovered Wildman I can't believe he's passed rest in peace big man 🙏
Respect George lynch 👏 for telling it how it should be told 👊
I think Wildman and Shaun meant to say the Palm Cove club, NOT the Coconut Grove !!
RIP Big Man ;(
"They fabricated the Heroin deal" 😂😂😂😂.
Lovely man
God bless u wildman rest easy soldier
WTF 75 I’ll have what he’s having !
The biggest watered down pod cast ever.
Shaun must of been told not to ask certain questions, which leads me to question his credibility!
If any one knows about Micheal, del or Anthony then they will know what I mean.
All very bad men an wronguns. Everything was played down.
You don’t get to be called the first og of Liverpool by peddling a bit of Nigerian low grade weed. They where into everything nothing off limits when it come to them making money... I mean nothing.
Racism is bad full stop and end of, but had they been white they still would have been what they where.
You can’t use racism as an excuse for people like this.
Fair Enough it’s part of his life story, but that shouldn’t take away what him and his brothers are about.
It's error to speak on Michael, Delroy and Anthony in the same breath. Now as it pertains to Delroy and Michael there may be similarity; but they were both their own men. Lastly, the man imported cannibus and did heists again major corporations. How is that evil?
@@sampson3272 where ones at it there all at it.
@@jayb402 What does that mean...
how about getting JOHN HAASE on ?? id love to know how he conned the government into giving him a royal pardon
@Daniel LaRusso what have you heard on haase vs fitzys
That’s a great idea.He gets mentioned in a few books here and there,but apart from Paul Grimes,most ex-criminals seem very reluctant to discuss him for some reason.
I'd be well interested in hearing that interview
@@mrsoul4231 I worked in paul grimes house in wallasey a few years back. Odd fella to talk to but I realized why once I knew who he was.
Haha shaun, you been reading cocky. Hahaha
Easy listening 😀
Such a cool guy
Wild man great big chap r.i.p gone but not forgotten flyhigh m8🙏🙏
He made very good hooch in Full Sutton
Hats off to whoever sold Alan Horne a chopped up Oxo cube as hash when he went to buy some from the men outside the music shop on Granby.
Wild man lives
Some Guests are just better Interviews than others..This Gentlemen is obviously calculated and intelligent he was really about that Life..Just not a great Interview cuz his answers are short and dry and he waits for questions instead of just telling his Story
I've enjoyed the interview tbh. Don't know what you're on about.
@@hathwayh3209 Did I say it was a Shit Interview Mate? No..Its 1:04 Min long, Sean's average interview is usually 2 hrs, some 3hrs plus..That's all I'm saying mate is this guy sounds like he is being careful not to incriminate himself which is what an Intelligent person would do( that's why I said Hes obv the Real Deal about that Life) but it doesn't translate to a flowing conversation/Interview..Hes a Gentlemen so He doesn't elaborate as much as some Guests..Sean would allow him to keep talking and painting perspective but his answers are short and sweet with not a whole lot of detail then He pauses and waits for another question about a completely different topic..That doesn't translate well to the viewers who want to know this Mans Story in depth..Hence some Interviews are better than others, THATS WHAT IM ON ABOUT MATE..STOP ACTING LIKE I DISRESPECTED THIS GENTLEMEN HES A CLASS ACT
@@hathwayh3209 U obv know nothing about body language and energy mate..Sean and Wildman were doing everything they could to get him to elaborate more but I guess U missed that..All I'm saying is this guys Story cant be summed up in
1 hr 4 min hes 75 yrs old..This Man has lived an incredible Life his Story should be told proper like I want to hear the Wisdom hes acquired along the way
@@TKilla-gz7oo lol
@@hathwayh3209 lol Respect Mate..I get carried away I'm passionate
Definitely so much more to him than he was letting on here. Hopefully his book will tell us a lot more. I know there has been a lot of tragedy within his family tho, almost like Liverpool's version of the Kennedy's.
Heard michaels name mentioned in charles bronsons book! Proper nice bloke by all counts
cant wait for book is mr showers mixed race like myself
Father Nigerian mother Brazilian
Very poor questions, stop talking about yaselves
Bit awkward this one mate. Still good though
Great podcast
But again, not the same with Mild Man SOBER!!
Wildman sound scery well!
Paul Sykes used to go around with his brother del & he is on for a min in the Paul Sykes documentarie.funny when wild man said about mr pink/black u see their faces drop when they realised it sounded racist lol
How does a reference to Reservoir Dogs sound racist? Didn't see anybody's face drop myself. Paul Sykes actually knew Mikey first before he met Del.
He looks insane for 75
It's because he's bald. My Dad shaves his head. 20 years ago he looked older bcaus he was going bald.
@@user-rw1ii4oc5q It’s Good Genetics 👌🏾
@@edenvernettshowers if he had hair he'd look alot older 💯
But Good luck to you fella 🍀🍀
You look like a younger version of him 💯
Big time guests guys.....you’ll have Curtis on next when he gets out....hopefully👍🏻🙏🏻
Wild man, deep pan. Seriously tho actually love these guyz
Nice suit .
He would turn up in his roller with his brother del to our shop Jonathan silvers in London road and often spend a load of cash, he loved his suits what's funny is he often wore tonic silver suits as he is now,point is he was a really nice guy/very polite ,at that particular time l wasn't aware of what he did for a living, liverpool is a tough city to live in it must have been especially tough for the black people ,in life you take as you find.l liked the guy,still seems like a nice fella.
I first met Michael in 1963. I was 15 and the youngest in the place: Everthorpe Borstal, Yorks. He was 17.
The place had plenty of rabid sadistic racists, and one in particular used to call Michael a "black bastard". Still remember his face and name. Michael used to tell me about "the Chants", Eddie Amoo, Nat Smeda, Okinio? And we played the piano (he sang) which was in a room not far from his ground floor cell. Made me laugh. He had kind of reddish hair, and called himself "a throwback", not sure if he'd say that now though. Well spoken even then. Told me why he wanted good articulation. I'd already been locked up for quite some time when he arrived, and got released well before he did. Often wondered how he managed. I lived at the top of Upper Parliament Street, used to score in a pub by the Greek church, just off Princess Road, and bumped into him on two occasions: the first time, he came running up the stairs from a basement youth club in Upper Parliament Street, told me something which I would never repeat. The last time I saw him, it must been around the time he had that community job - was in a little local shop, by Stanhope street, we stared at each other, but I said nothing, because I wasn't sure if it was him. But it was, and he kind of recognized me.
The racism years ago was horrible .
Michael looks well for 75 .
black dont crack
All the smaxk money
Rip wildman
Legend has it that Delroy showers was the first man to wash crack cocaine in England...
1st crack factory was Kelvin Grove L8
@@user-sw4go6vc5s no just very happy,😎
Total bollox
@@garethhind3198Something you're proud of?
Last saw michael showers on B wing top security HMP Full Sutton 1995 and he was on the kitchen hotplate
My toes curl every time Wildman chips in with his two pence worth of shite
Wildman looks so uncomfortable the last 10 minutes of this interview. 🙏
Should have asked him if he knew Barry Grant lol!
He got Jimmy Corkhill on the smack!
Everyone knows Barry Grant