HOW TO REBUILD A BRIGGS COIL FOR $13
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2021
- I show how to rebuild and modify an obsolete Antique 3 leg Briggs and Stratton Coil
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That JB Weld aint no joke, you're right RK, the next guy (in 200 years) will have to work to get that sucker off. Probably be a felony to start a gasoline motor by then.
That engine will be in the landfill 2 days after I die!!☺
@@805ROADKING That hopefully takes many, many years yet!
@@805ROADKING nah, recycling center.
Very good video , Old style engineering at it,s BEST Knowledge Equals POWER .
😂 30:04 "Dont forget reverse threads", he say... And then proceeds to try fasten the bolt in normal direction. Exactly what I could have done. 👍😜
I thought I made a mistake once but I was wrong!!☺
This mechanic has more knowledge in his little finger than you have in your sarcastic brain
Excellent Roadking did not know this, we live and learn everyday, super thank you
Thanks Martin!!☺
I absolutely love this kind of stuff. Thanks RK. Make a part YEAH. Can you believe I get static because may make or weld something instead of buying it. This is why we do this because we can.
Thanks Bruce!! Ya gotta do what ya gotta do eh!! Ya just can't walk into and store and buy a 70-100 year old coil!!☺
So close to hearing your famous line:
"The file's your friend."
:)
I've had the plunger froze up that works the points too. When they sit for years, quick fix . I put a 3hp coil on an 8hp by grinding the armature to the configuration of the flywheel.
Hey now that is just AWESOME King ! great share man.. ENJOYED .. Hard to find those old coils that are in working order .
Thanks Shawn!! Gotta keep the old iron running!!☺
I love to learn something useful like this. Great video!
Great video! Nice to see someone work on something that they do have all cleaned and ready to fall apart....Real world video!!
Good video. I'm olden, but I didn't know some shaft threads were left handed. My spark tester is my hand. If you don't say, "ouch" something isn't just right.
Great vid, I bought 2 of the Tecumseh coils you mention, so I will be trying this method out. Thanks for sharing this info with us!
My compliments to you! It amazes me that the old style points and condenser on that engine is just like an old automotive distributor! How did you know that the Tecumseh coil had the same resistance as the original? Great video! It would have been cool to see if that old engine would run after all those years! Good job!
Thanks for making this it's very helpful ,people always bad mouth the internet ....but I remember the days before ,alot of tips like this would be hard to figure out ....especially parts numbers
RoadKing: Just spent the 1/2 hour with you on a Monday morning with Coffee. A good way to start my day. THANKS - Paul -OLDIHC
That's cool!! Thanks for watching Paul!!☺
Having watched you wind a coil before, I was taken completely by surprise by this one. Neato!
Yeah Buddy!! This is alot easier if you have a coil it will work on!!☺
What a great way to repair a bad coil, always learn something new from your great video's, thanks for sharing .
Thanks Martin!!☺
Great video! I just ordered a coil for my early 60s 6hp (as 23D, I believe.) Same style magneto. Many thanks for posting.
Very good video Ive never heard of rebuilding a coil thanks
That was fantastic! What a great way to make a new coil! Thanks King!
Thanks Buddy!! You can't get the old 3 leg coils anywhere and if ya find a good used one it's only a matter of time before it craps out!!☺
Good stuff RK thanks for your time and info.
Way to go Roady. Learn something new every other day.
Thanks Buddy!! That means every other day you learn what not to do!!☺
I'm glad I watched! I picked up an old mercury two cylinder chain saw with two bad coils, been wondering how I'd fix it. Thank you for your wisdom
I hope it works for ya!! At least it's not too expensive to try it!!☺
Hey could a person use a Briggs and Stratton solid state coil off a later model engine that way you wouldn't have to use the points and condenser?
EXCELLENT Video, LOVE your POINTER !!!!!!!!.
RK, I have the same 5S engine I saved from the dump a while back. Coil is bad, I've been looking for a way to get it going besides spending 100 plus on a 70 -75 year old replacement. Thank you for workaround repair.
Great video buddy thanks for sharing
Thanks Boger!!☺
Excellent Job Sir.
I put a tecumseh coil on my 47 whizzer's laminates and it works fine. Same thing,had to cut center poles sides a bit. Good cheap fix.
John. Did you have to add a condenser, too? Working on my own Whizzer J motor. Thx
Ken
Nice job on that coil!
Great repair and tip, for coil replacement RK, Thanks 👍
Thanks Bud!! You better hope that FH coil is good, you can still get them but they are very pricey!!☺
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It is good, I push the kick starter hard and had good voltage threw my hand lol
Absolutely love the videos!
Thanks Bud!!☻
@@805ROADKING can I message you about a project I have?
Great video! I have been purchasing Evenrude coils, and knocking the cores out of them. Thanks for stating your source for the coils.
Hey man.. Love your vids! Thank you for all you do.. Have a good day today bub.. Peace
Thanks BWB!!☺
thks for teaching me how to save money ( or there not sold anymore, anyway) but to repair what you got. I think
this could be useful for other engines too! As I bought out a collection of (4) old Briggs & Stratton engines from a guy.
and have about as many of my own.
Wow that was interesting as hell!!! I threwly enjoyed that!!!
got 17 bad coils thank you ,thank you for sharing
Great info. Thanks
That is something I never would have thought of! Many thanks for this tip!
Thanks for watching OB!! It took me years to figure that out as simple as it is!!☺
@@805ROADKING I also just posted a response on the SmokStak forums on a thread where someone was asking about replacement coils for the old Briggs, using your video link. This will help a lot of others, and many thanks to you once again.
@@805ROADKING Can you also replace one of the newer coils with two radius arms/legs on it?
Nice one, many thanks
Thanks, Road King, this was a very informative vid. Can you tell me what kind and where you get your dremel cut off wheels? Thanks!
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Fascinating thank you.
Nice job man
What a great fix!! Thanks```
Very cool, RoadKing! I think I want to get one of these coils for a completely different purpose...I want to try to make my own high voltage transformer or induction coil for experiments! I would just put a core on it and wind a small low voltage coil for the primary winding and it should work! Thanks for posting the link!
Thanks CT!! Yeah it should work!!☺
Good stuff RoadKing!
Thanks Matt!!☺
Yeah, I believe I would have used a reversible method of fixing the new coil to the old frame, just in case the coil went bad again. But, whatever sparks your plug. That engine was manufactured 2 years before I was born. My dad had an old home-built tiller he used in the garden for many years with one of these engines on it. I remember him wrapping the cord around the pulley and pulling it multiple times to get it to start. It always did, after various 4-letter words. A few years later, when I was about 12, I tore into that old (by then unused) motor and fixed it. That's where I learned much of what I know about internal combustion engines, compression, valves, timing, how to use rebuild the carbs, etc. By age 15 I was fixing the neighbors' mowers and tillers. B&S, Wisconsin, and Clinton engines were very popular back then. A large single cylinder Wisconsin on a Bolen's 800 "lawn tractor" was the largest. It used a generator/starter and was the first electric start piece of lawn equipment I ever saw. I would love to find one of those 800's in rebuildable condition and take it on as a project. FYI, inflation has taken the price of the new coil in that link up 100%. That link shows $13 now. But, what hasn't doubled in price? Just curious, did you check the points and ohm out the coil to be sure it was bad before you dug into it? Just curious since you didn't mention it.
Hey Roadking, that was a good strong "spark, from my side of the camera, lol. Really nice repair, and video
Thanks Andy!!☺
I learned something 👍👍👍👍 Thank you
Cool!! Thanks for watching Joe!!☺
Great job, is there a way to adapt a magnatron coil to that motor? Thanks
Thanks Waterman!! I don't think so because you would have to replace the flywheel too!! And I'm not sure the magnatron flywheel would fit the older 5/8 shaft!! But with enough work ya could make anything work!!☺
Good fix EJ. Should be very helpful.
Thank you George!!☺
Wonder if this would work with a Villers engine, will have to look into this, as I have about three with no spark, and coils test out as duds.
I have a 1942 2hp 2stole outboard that I have to do this to. I have the wire to wind it but damn that’s a lot of work
Yeah Buddy!! This is alot easier than rewinding, we've been there!!☺
Great fix - I was thinking we'd get to see the coil winder in action!
Thanks Chris!! I'm still waiting for Mike to get enough time to show me how to do it!! We'll get to eventually!!☺
Awesome demonstration, but now I'm having a weak spark problem. Replaced points and condenser multiple times. Tested rebuilt coil etc. Spark appears weak, and either way just won't turn over. Could it have to do with the epoxy I used? Applied jb weld "high heat" and later saw that it contains iron as a first ingredient, and I thought it could affect the coil interaction with the armature. Should I redo it with plastic epoxy?
I should say this is a model 8B and uses J8 plug and I've tried different spark plugs as well.
Great video! New subscriber. Just picked up a 1939 wmb that is missing the horseshoe and coil. Have any idea where I can find the horseshoe to fit or know of a modern replacement? Thank you
Thanks Davy!! You see them at shows and on ebay once in a while!! I don't know of any modern replacement other than modifying them like we did in the video!!☺
that a grat i dear , I can't get them coils in the UK . so i ues motersycal coil's & fit a little battery & a censer to collapse the coils , les England wire up the pint's if the have a' set
I have one of those mine has the plastic see through air cleaner no muffler. Think 6s. Havent started for a few years.
I like that nifty spark tester. Where did you get it?
How do you know how far away from the flywheel to set the coil?
Nice work. I use the same coil to fix Kohler Under Flywheel magnetos on old K series pull starts….
Thanks Dog!! I never had to mess with Kohler coils before!! I have 8 horse Kohlers in two of my Panzers!!☺
60 years from now, TH-camr wonders why they can't get the coil off. 😉 Great fix, keeping old stuff going is so much more satisfying than buying new, and better for the environment. 'Repurposing' things, is one of my favourite types of engineering. The Cubans had the right idea.
I don't think the Cubans had much of a choice!!☺
Interesting! Thanks
Here is another idea, instead epoxying to mount it. Take a extra layer of metal off so that is loose, then take the extra layer or two and spread the metal layer in the middle and shove the leafs down in to wedge it in place, and you still have the iron core for your magnetism. I know two many cooks in the kitchen LOL
I betcha the next guy that replaces that coil 100 years from now says " I wish the SOB that fixed this 100 years ago just wedged some shims in that core instead of using this goddamn epoxy!!☺
Dear Sir, i Foundation tour video, thanks for Sharing. Can i ask a question. If you have a new coil Thatcher fits Wish the bolt holes, byt the diameter to the flywheel is a litteratur of, cam you then file the metal to g’et the fight angle, and will,this then workshop, then you do not need to use the Old metal core?
Do the coils you order have different size center holes
Would that work with a modern coil with the module built in. ?
nice make more for us new to repair people
Never seen that before. Good idea .
Thanks Bud!!☺
I understand this can be done with a Briggs two cylinder point coil to replace a Maytag 72 coil ? Have you done one you can tell us about ?
Thanks
I've seen Maytags done with Briggs coils, they work but not properly!! I started working on a solution for the 72's a while back and got sidetracked!! Maybe someday we'll continue working on it!!☺
Yep I always learn something here - that's why I don't miss a single video.
Thanks Mike!! I'm sure this will help alotta people!! I figured it out years ago and finally decided to reveal the secret!!☺
@@805ROADKING Thanks for sharing it. I like the replacement capacitor in the condenser trick as well. Regard to using epoxy I see electronic components, as an example coaxial cable splitters and the epoxy they apply to seal the case is a thin bead that is just perfect. I wonder how they do that. Keep up the good work. If you feel charitable maybe you can share your construction of that cool looking spark checker.
That Spark Checker is actually a Briggs Product that they stopped making but I do have a video of me reproducing a few of them here: th-cam.com/video/WuT3gWSnUNs/w-d-xo.html
very cool repair..
Thanks Rich!!☺
Good job buddy! Sometimes you just have to make your own repair parts :)
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
That's a really smart idea
Thanks alot Jerry!!☺
Nice rescue mate..
Thanks alot Mate!!☺
Timely info, just used my last good coil on my 1952 Bolens Power-Ho. Thanks. I'm assuming that, even though you didn't show it, you did clean and check the points before beating the coil apart.
Just noticed, for such a original looking engine, where is the governor air vane?
Good question Paul!! I probably forgot to put the govenor back in after I originally cleaned it!!☺
great video, now i know how!
Thanks Don!!☺
Hay Road King. Great subject matter
Thanks Paul!!☺
Would it work it you drill a small hole and use a pin to hold it together
Yeah there is probably a dozen different ways you could do it!!☺
Thanks, didn't think of that.
Took me years to figure it out Mate!!☺
Beautiful machines . I appreciate them. My wife not so much
Thank you so much🌠
Thanks for watching Bud!!☺
I wish he would get the hell out and let someone run the country run the country that's qualified.
Lol!! I'm gonna give him your number Vern so he stops calling me!!☺
@@805ROADKING That babbling old fool wouldn't make as much sense as those Indian telemarketers. lol
Also, can you link to your video where you feature the spark gap tester? That's a darn handy thing to have around.
th-cam.com/video/WuT3gWSnUNs/w-d-xo.html
@@805ROADKING Thanks! Ever the gentleman. Hope you have a great weekend.
Did you say you replaced the flywheel? It looks new
When are you going to do the radial three engine ?
We'll get back to that when Mike retires and we have more time to work on it!!☺
Have you ever run across a old Continental small engines. it would be cool to see what you would do with one.
Yeah we come across them occasionally!! I've never had one but Mike has had a few of them before!!☺
I’m digging that stool
Thanks Bud!!☺
Put on the new coil just like you did and still no spark. Coil gap is 10 and spark gap is 20. Can't find your video on how to set the points properly, but I should get a spark, right?
Great job there Buddy, that's great advise how to keep those old Briggs going. 👍
Thanks Lloyd!! I'm sure it will help alotta people!!☺
good morning mate,was thinking you was going to test it with your fingers lol :o)
Mornin' Mate!! Nah, that's no fun when that happens!!☺
Ouch!!
I never would ever thought of doing that ...Amazing how there was a coil part that you could adapt to the Briggs
You'd be surprised how many Tecumseh parts I use to keep the old Briggs Engines running!!☺
Amazing work. When I was about 14, a neighbor gave me that engine but it had a warped head. (I remember it being a model 1 S but it's been a long time.) Filed it flat, new gasket, and put it on a DIY go-kart. Got me started in engines.
Have you considered using a modern coil without the points and condenser? I would probably require a new hole or 2 in the laminated cor.
Thanks.
You sound like from way up north east I got a joke for you okay 😂 have you ever heard of daygo tires when daygo flat daygo wahp wahp wahp just kidding you seem like a good guy
I'm not comfortable pulling the flywheel off and not charging the condenser and points they all start their lives the same day of assembly?
Thanks for the Info. Great job buddy!
Thanks alot Bob!! Have a great weekend Bud!!☺
Always some way to adapt parts for your needs, well done!
Thanks John!! Yeah with enough work and adapting you can keep just about anything running!!☺
Who needs coffee when you can just get your buzz off a small engine coil? :P
You don't want that Buzz Mate!!☺
This engine is in good shape for its age. Nice video. You are blessed, Road King.
Thanks Newman!! Yeah it's a real survivor!!☺
Yaaaay