Is really worth all that work and money for an old Bible? As a family loom could have been store in a nice wooden box for future generations who will never open o read a single page of it. Such intense restoration is beneficial only to the Bridges Bibles or the rear Adultery Bibles.
Ok so........I find a turd on the road. I take it home and I put it into a gold frame worth 1200.000 dollars. I invite you 4 dine and you complain to me that the turd smell terribly. And way I bother spending all those dollars for a piece of shit....... I will reply :"If wasn't your money and time I used to frame the turd, Why would the question itself even be worth asking?"@@sadepennbrook
I just inherited an 1881 Victorian Bible. I have to get this thing restored and the genealogy current in it. I don’t even believe anymore but this thing blows my socks off. The art inside it is incredible. Some of it very gruesome. I feel like I have been given the Necronomacon from Army of Darkness and it’s been hanging out in a daycare.
Idk why, but "Books shouldn't make any noise when they open and close" really tickled me lol. Thank you for making these videos, I inherited my family bible that is from 1890, and I plan to restore it myself. So I very much appreciate seeing the process of a professional doing a similar job!
I will be watching your videos. I have inherited about 6-7 family Bibles, one at least from 1860. I don't know that I would ever be able to restore them myself, but I'm going to study to see if there's anything I can do to bring them back to life correctly. Thank you for this video. I'll be watching more!
Re: ENDBANDS. I suggest that these are easier to deal with with after being placed in an air-tight (ish) container with a slightly damp, not wet, sponge (not touching) for maybe an hour or two at most. The glue will hydrate (it's hydroscopic) and soften but the dyes will not bleed and disassembly is then very easy, quick and clean. After an hour or so the glue will have reset so action needs to be taken to ensure preservation of the curvature. The card inside will not have suffered at all. In fact it can be beneficial as the softened glue might auto-repair any cracks or splits without assistance other than a little mild pressure. Good, high quality video and workmanship. Looking forward to episode two.
Madam Book Restoration Artist, your work is a work of art, but your voice is very, very beautiful, your English is neither American nor British, but your voice is elegant and lovely, I loved it!!! Edy fron Brasil❤❤❤
I think your suspicions about the endbands on this book being used as mechanical textile support for the back and shoulders is spot on. I'd also suspect that about 1/4 pound of animal glue has shrunk, cracked, and crumbled off of the spine over the last 125 years. Many of those old bibles were sewn on jute cords, but there was no sign of that I could see. Would you consider hanging a volume like this onto a fabric or reinforced paper tube to add to it's practical longevity, even if it were archivally incorrect?
Robert, are you in the field? 😊 Ding, ding! Yes, this has very thin sawn in cords and they were the miniscule textblock to board attachment. In the next episodes, you'll see the removal of the rest of the ton of old animal glue, the addition of an overhanging linen lining, AND a paper tube so the original spine leather that I reattach doesn't get bent backwards and into multiple pieces. When planning treatments, I take many things into consideration including: not further damaging the original materials, restoring functionality, reversibility when necessary and then preferring reversible adhesives when possible, and that I would like for my repairs to cleanly come off for the next conservator decades from now. Hollow tubes are a common book conservation technique at this point. And yes, they are often practical! While not correct for the time period in terms of original construction, they aren't visible, they're reversible, and they solve many structural issues while supporting the original material.
@@SouthernBookAndPaper I'm retired after 20 plus years with a west coast Library Bookbinding company. Our customers rarely wanted full conservation methods and materials, but they valued maximum service-ability, so it's always an interesting comparison for me. Thanks for explaining the decision making process for us -- all other things being so equal these days, that is really what most clearly distinguishes one professional from another.
Thanks! I asked the jeweler to pull only the rings that had never been returned with loose stones. It was my favorite out of the 5 toughest rings in the store. I'm really bad about throwing them out of round, which can spread the prongs. 13 years later, no loose stones (yet).
I had two of the same and kept one gave the other to an Aunt for records and ability to forward it to heirs Mine was restored by Mackey and Ashplund Foster Rhode Island, (now retired) looking forward to this process.
Thank you for not adding awful music to this video. I love music but somehow the worst of what can be produced, usually by computer, is added to videos.
It looks like Jennie’s last name is Maur. The last letter is the only confusing letter. But I believe it to be an r. I could be wrong, but I feel 85% confident as I write this.
Hi loving this Ty for uploading . I have a similar bible 1800s with clasps I hope with your tutorial I would like to. Know if clasps should be removed ty
Seeing this I was just thinking about the old family bible, and if my mother could have had it conserved years ago. Unfortunately it was/is in far, far rougher shape - last time I remember seeing it, it was actively disintegrating, the pages so brittle they were turning to dust. I'd love it if the marriages and deaths plates survived, though knowing my mother it might be gone by now.
Leather dressing through the years would have prevented all of those problems. That statement might not be completely true but it's more true for a lot of leather problems then is not.
I have a Bible about this size from 1790 hes together with a rubber band and I have no idea what do with it because It is in about this condition, if not worse. I have several 1600s-1800s books but non of them are that bad
Hey, you can measure and place it in an acid free and lignin free box. This will keep the parts together whether or not you have the book conserved/restored. I like Gaylord's boxes: www.amazon.com/stores/GaylordArchival/page/E8B1F257-749D-4107-8FCF-9FF1C3BA8005?ref_=ast_bln
I have a KJV bible which is using paste down liner being glued to its French Morocco leather cover. Recently, I found the paste down liner is starting to go off. What is the best way to repair it?
Hello! That really depends on the type of paper that is used for the paste down, the original adhesive, and other factors. I often use PVA, but only on the correct type of paper. Otherwise the paper can become permanently wrinkled. You might want to talk to a local binder or conservator who can take a look in person.
Hey 🤗😊 i made a storage box from an old bible and front cover was OK but i had to glue inside and its pushed it off more.. is it possible to glue it with a glue that will fold 180° 🙁 sea lemon channel does i good video on book glue binders but she says PVA im not shure about it
As this is a mass-produced book, does that explain the lack of lining on the spine? Interesting terminology - the lining is also called either called the "super" or "crash" www.ferdinando.org.uk/book_binding.htm
Good question! I still usually see textile lining/super/crash/mull (or evidence that they existed) on mass produced books. I've only seen a few with no textile, and this one is certainly the largest so far.
Is really worth all that work and money for an old Bible? As a family loom could have been store in a nice wooden box for future generations who will never open o read a single page of it.
Such intense restoration is beneficial only to the Bridges Bibles or the rear Adultery Bibles.
It's worthy to me
If it wasn’t your money and time used, why would the question itself even be worth asking?
Ok so........I find a turd on the road. I take it home and I put it into a gold frame worth 1200.000 dollars. I invite you 4 dine and you complain to me that the turd smell terribly. And way I bother spending all those dollars for a piece of shit....... I will reply :"If wasn't your money and time I used to frame the turd, Why would the question itself even be worth asking?"@@sadepennbrook
It’s obviously very important to the client and clearly the client is willing to pay money for this restoration.
Fair enough .@@optimus.slime.
I just inherited an 1881 Victorian Bible. I have to get this thing restored and the genealogy current in it. I don’t even believe anymore but this thing blows my socks off. The art inside it is incredible. Some of it very gruesome. I feel like I have been given the Necronomacon from Army of Darkness and it’s been hanging out in a daycare.
Idk why, but "Books shouldn't make any noise when they open and close" really tickled me lol.
Thank you for making these videos, I inherited my family bible that is from 1890, and I plan to restore it myself.
So I very much appreciate seeing the process of a professional doing a similar job!
ASMR... mike drop!
The lighting and camera are wonderful. I echo what others have said about your commentary. Thank you for making this document.
Thank you for your kind words, Mary! I really appreciate them ☺️
I will be watching your videos. I have inherited about 6-7 family Bibles, one at least from 1860. I don't know that I would ever be able to restore them myself, but I'm going to study to see if there's anything I can do to bring them back to life correctly. Thank you for this video. I'll be watching more!
Restoration starts at 4:16
Jennie’s maiden name is Monroe. Her full name is *Virginia Elizabeth “Jennie” Monroe Thompson*
Re: ENDBANDS. I suggest that these are easier to deal with with after being placed in an air-tight (ish) container with a slightly damp, not wet, sponge (not touching) for maybe an hour or two at most. The glue will hydrate (it's hydroscopic) and soften but the dyes will not bleed and disassembly is then very easy, quick and clean. After an hour or so the glue will have reset so action needs to be taken to ensure preservation of the curvature. The card inside will not have suffered at all. In fact it can be beneficial as the softened glue might auto-repair any cracks or splits without assistance other than a little mild pressure.
Good, high quality video and workmanship. Looking forward to episode two.
Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
Humidification is certainly one way to tackle the removal!
I'm rapairing an 1890 copy of the Whitehouse cook book watching this is informative
Madam Book Restoration Artist, your work is a work of art, but your voice is very, very beautiful, your English is neither American nor British, but your voice is elegant and lovely, I loved it!!! Edy fron Brasil❤❤❤
Oh it's going to be a wonderful weekend!
Amazing work and craftsmanship. Thank you for in-depth explanations.
Great video, yet again. Love the attention to details.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
New to your videos, I’ll be back for next one... love your narration, thanks for sharing your content
Check the previous (first) sequence, wonderful and thorough
Thank you for your kind note! I'm glad you're enjoying it! 🤓📚
I think your suspicions about the endbands on this book being used as mechanical textile support for the back and shoulders is spot on. I'd also suspect that about 1/4 pound of animal glue has shrunk, cracked, and crumbled off of the spine over the last 125 years. Many of those old bibles were sewn on jute cords, but there was no sign of that I could see. Would you consider hanging a volume like this onto a fabric or reinforced paper tube to add to it's practical longevity, even if it were archivally incorrect?
Robert, are you in the field? 😊 Ding, ding! Yes, this has very thin sawn in cords and they were the miniscule textblock to board attachment. In the next episodes, you'll see the removal of the rest of the ton of old animal glue, the addition of an overhanging linen lining, AND a paper tube so the original spine leather that I reattach doesn't get bent backwards and into multiple pieces.
When planning treatments, I take many things into consideration including: not further damaging the original materials, restoring functionality, reversibility when necessary and then preferring reversible adhesives when possible, and that I would like for my repairs to cleanly come off for the next conservator decades from now.
Hollow tubes are a common book conservation technique at this point. And yes, they are often practical! While not correct for the time period in terms of original construction, they aren't visible, they're reversible, and they solve many structural issues while supporting the original material.
@@SouthernBookAndPaper I'm retired after 20 plus years with a west coast Library Bookbinding company. Our customers rarely wanted full conservation methods and materials, but they valued maximum service-ability, so it's always an interesting comparison for me. Thanks for explaining the decision making process for us -- all other things being so equal these days, that is really what most clearly distinguishes one professional from another.
Totally enjoyed and learned so much from this!
Wonderful videos. Please keep them coming
I'm glad you're enjoying them! Will do! ❤📚
nice three stone ring Mom had one like it !
Thanks! I asked the jeweler to pull only the rings that had never been returned with loose stones. It was my favorite out of the 5 toughest rings in the store. I'm really bad about throwing them out of round, which can spread the prongs. 13 years later, no loose stones (yet).
@@SouthernBookAndPaper Good for you !
So professional
Nice video and your voice is beautiful✨
I had two of the same and kept one gave the other to an Aunt for records and ability to forward it to heirs Mine was restored by Mackey and Ashplund Foster Rhode Island, (now retired) looking forward to this process.
Thank you for not adding awful music to this video. I love music but somehow the worst of what can be produced, usually by computer, is added to videos.
Isn't that the truth? So many good videos get ruined by awful music.
It looks like Jennie’s last name is Maur. The last letter is the only confusing letter. But I believe it to be an r. I could be wrong, but I feel 85% confident as I write this.
Hi loving this Ty for uploading . I have a similar bible 1800s with clasps I hope with your tutorial I would like to. Know if clasps should be removed ty
I have some excellent condition books from 1890 and 1910ish perspectively. the spines and inband are bad but beyond that the pages seem good.
Really looking forward to this project, thanks.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@SouthernBookAndPaper lf it's anything like your last project, it will be superb.
Kind regards.
Awesome! Thank you and God bless you!
You are so welcome
Seeing this I was just thinking about the old family bible, and if my mother could have had it conserved years ago. Unfortunately it was/is in far, far rougher shape - last time I remember seeing it, it was actively disintegrating, the pages so brittle they were turning to dust. I'd love it if the marriages and deaths plates survived, though knowing my mother it might be gone by now.
👏👏👏
I was going to ask the whetting question but answered it just as I was typing .!
Wow!
it is a cool sound like and old scary movie when it opened even though its not supposed to do that. 😁
Leather dressing through the years would have prevented all of those problems. That statement might not be completely true but it's more true for a lot of leather problems then is not.
Thank you how much did u charge client u done great job u still do this
I was wondering that too. Not knowing what work was done id guess $200 to $500.
14:22 When does a book become heavy enough to best be stored in this manner? Would on the spine serve the same purpose?
Thank you,
Adriel
I have a Bible about this size from 1790 hes together with a rubber band and I have no idea what do with it because It is in about this condition, if not worse. I have several 1600s-1800s books but non of them are that bad
Hey, you can measure and place it in an acid free and lignin free box. This will keep the parts together whether or not you have the book conserved/restored. I like Gaylord's boxes: www.amazon.com/stores/GaylordArchival/page/E8B1F257-749D-4107-8FCF-9FF1C3BA8005?ref_=ast_bln
I have a KJV bible which is using paste down liner being glued to its French Morocco leather cover. Recently, I found the paste down liner is starting to go off. What is the best way to repair it?
Hello! That really depends on the type of paper that is used for the paste down, the original adhesive, and other factors. I often use PVA, but only on the correct type of paper. Otherwise the paper can become permanently wrinkled. You might want to talk to a local binder or conservator who can take a look in person.
Hey 🤗😊 i made a storage box from an old bible and front cover was OK but i had to glue inside and its pushed it off more.. is it possible to glue it with a glue that will fold 180° 🙁 sea lemon channel does i good video on book glue binders but she says PVA im not shure about it
Hey RIchard, I use PVA for many cover repairs.
@@SouthernBookAndPaper i broke the front off 😌 it needs to go 180degree though
Far too long are you still in business? Watching this for more knowledge!
As this is a mass-produced book, does that explain the lack of lining on the spine?
Interesting terminology - the lining is also called either called the "super" or "crash"
www.ferdinando.org.uk/book_binding.htm
Good question! I still usually see textile lining/super/crash/mull (or evidence that they existed) on mass produced books. I've only seen a few with no textile, and this one is certainly the largest so far.
@@SouthernBookAndPaper To me it looks half-done and poorly made. From a limited knowledge perspective.
@@channelsixtysix066 Yes, I agree. To me it looked quickly made - not just in its current state due to age.
nothing worse than those brittle, acidic papers used in the late 19th century.