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Hi Rob, I have a pair of OM-1's, and ran into this problem last week in the field. Customer Support referred me to your video. I found the same thing during my testing in the field last week, not surprisingly the one Powerbank I had that both powered and charged is the Anker, a very similar model, and I just picked up a second for backup as well. Great job on the video, coincidentally other than reading the manual I went through the same steps in the field as the batteries were running down and I had each body connected to a separate power bank. I found about the same timing as you did for charging, the really nice thing, I was still able to use the camera, that is a huge bonus. In general, the one you found that works, I have fully recharged my laptop, my cell phone as well, several times over. Thank you very much !
Even years later after you first posted...planning a trip to Europe and I really appreciate the level of detail you have provided, bar none the most useful video on this issue I've watched. Thanks for what you do!
This info is great. I have asked Olympus and they said that the camera cannot be used while charging via USB. Another hidden gem! Thanks Rob for making this video and the research for it.
Hi Peter, I think those are two different things: you can either 1. Charge the battery in the camera (camera has to be off) or 2. Run the camera from external PD compatible powerbank (but no charging of internal battery in the same time)
You can use the camera but cannot output HDMI video while the USB cable is selected. You need at least 3A/27W to use the camera while powering from USB... I recommend at least a 4A/35W charger to have a margin and you must use a USB-C cable and a USB PD-capable battery or charger. Or, you can get the HLD-9 battery grip and AC-5 power supply and run the E-M1 Mark II/III off of external 120/220VAC power and output HDMI video.
Great Vid, Rob! I followed your advice and the Anker product works very well, indeed. In your video, starting at 8:56, you mention a tip to accelerate the selection of PD power when connecting the Anker battery (c.f. gear > D4 > USB PD). I think two additional and relatively important tips should be that: "1. Tethered power supply only works if the camera’s internal battery is charged to at least 10%." "2. Tethered power supply is disabled if the HLD-9 grip / battery holder is attached to the camera, regardless of whether or not it’s holding a battery (the USB PD option is grayed out on the camera’s normal USB mode screen)." I removed my HLD-9 grip and sure enough the USB PD was no longer grayed out. However, it did power my EM1iii although the internal battery was at 100%.
Rob, I enjoy your channel as it is very informative and easy to follow along. Great information...I own the M1 MarkIII, with it I have the PBH(power Battery Handle) which I love. You may want to pass along that the internal battery does not seem to charge or utilized the power cell when the PBH is connected. The PBH does have its own connection cord for power that can be used to bypass the PBH battery to use the camera. I'm not happy that is does not charge the battery in the PBH(Why OLYMPUS). The option to choose from the home screen does not highlight to use the USB PD. When I disconnect the PBH, the camera works perfectly with the Anker power cell as the USB PD option is now highlighted. And yes I did follow your link for the Anker power cell, I hope others do as well.
Thanks for the update, James. They should have thought through the entire process a bit more. Of course, that can be said about many things with Olympus. Appreciate the support via links!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I was wondering what level of compatibility Olympus E-M1 III has with power banks (and now it seems to be just on product confirmed). 3 years ago I got stuck in Brussels Train Station with no cash and no power and no way to get back to the UK and the only thing that saved me was a 5 Euro I found in a corner that got me a cup of coffee and about 3 hours to stay in a coffee (they wouldn't let me use their power outlets unless I was a paid customer) that helped me charge up my phone so I could call a friend and ask for help ... and made it back to the UK 24 hours later. My Panasonic GX7 (all I had back then) was nearly dead and no way to charge it either. This power bank is on my shopping cart for next month now ... lesson learned.
Great info just ordered the mark iii , have the same Anker powerbank , good to know I can use it with Mark iii. Have watched you a long time, got a lot of info for my Pen F ,best street photography camera. I would like to see more tutorials on the Mark iii , using the new added features like, Live ND and handheld High Res , Bulb on the Mode dial. Be glad to get out and take pictures again and you’ll be doing your walk around again. Keep up the good work.
A closer look at the manual indicates that it needs at least 3A@9V or 2A@15V. This basically means you need a 27W USB PD source to run the camera. Some power banks can't supply this much power; I've seen quite a few cheaper power banks rated at only 18W. I've used three different USB PD power banks of different brands (Jackery, RAVPower, Omars), all rated at 45W. In every case, the camera successfully negotiates 3A@9V, allowing it to run off the power bank. (I don't presently have an Anker USB PD power bank, though I have a number of their wall chargers and non-USB-C power banks.)
Hi Rob great video, I got my EM1 M3 the day of the announcement from Olympus and JIP. When I got the camera there was a bonus of the Anker Powercore+ unit. The unit just arrived and it has 3 usb3 outlets on so no usbC out. The unit will charge the battery. but not power the camera. I tried to order the one on your link but as I live in Australia Anker will not supply this to Australia just the version I got from Olympus. I ordered from Amazon Australia a RAVpower PD Pioneer 20000mAh 60W 2-Ports Power Bank. and a RAVpower 60W charger. I am glad to tell you that this combination WILL power the camera from the power bank and the charger. This gives the users a second option to power the camera.
In the same boat, ie Aus. But happy to report that the PD ports on both the following chargers work fine powering the EM1 M3. www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B01D8C6ULO www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07WLXQGL8
Great info, thx for the research! One thing that might be worth checking out is if the 2nd power bank you used works together with the USB cable you could successfully use with the third power bank. USB-C is notorious for cable issues. It can often drive you nuts that some cables can do what you intend in a certain combination of devices, whilst in the next scenario the same cable fails and another cable manages to do the intended thing. This seems to always be an issue when using USB-c USB-c cables for any operation beyond basic data transfer, which seems to work in any combination that I have tried at least. I really hope that it gets more standardized soon, I have bought so many cables that fail me, and then the next cable I get works, only to later find a specific scenario where the first cable can actually be used. Now I put a sticker on each such cable listing the specific scenarios that it can be used for.
Yeah, the cable situation is confusing. I look very carefully at the specs now. Basically USB-C PD 3.1 Gen 2 is the one to get now, or Thunderbolt. The smaller power supply basically didn't have enough output. Need at least a 30w PD power bank, 45w to be safe.
I came to TH-cam to research the HLD-9 grip and found this video. I think this might actually be a better solution for my application and cheaper too! very informative video thank you!
Thank you so much for doing this video. I was having some of the same problems trying to figure out why the cables were not working. Thanks again for explaining everything.
Rob; thanks for this video as it will save many people from needing to discover how to get the correct power bank and cable. I noticed that the power cable is a USB-C to USB-C PD cable but that there are two types of USB-C cables, some that are used just for charging (PD) and others like the Thunderbolt 3 cables that can do both Power Delivery but also high speed data at the same time. I may be wrong (happens more often than I like) but I think if you want to both charge the EM1 Mark III battery in-camera while Tethering I think it might require a cable compatible with the Thunderbolt 3 standard (power and data). Thought I would pass this along but check it out with others as this is all new to me also.
You are on the right track. USB-C PD can be data capable or not. Thunderbolt is an Intel/Apple Data Spec for Data, but you can still have data capable USB-C PD without Thunderbolt. I don't think Olympus is Thunderbolt compatible because it's not using an Intel processor. I'm pretty sure you can't charge and run the camera at the same time regardless of cable. It would require more power than USB-C is currently spec'd in the EM1-iii.
Rob, thanks; its amazing how complicated its getting just to take some pictures! I'll take a look at the USB-C PD cables then. See you on your channel. Thanks again.
Great information where (Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh PD 45W) 45 watts is the important figure for running the camera. I am deciding on a 0M - 5 but battery wise a OM -1 will be more suitable. Not keen on carrying extra 500gram Anker PowerCore 3 months in my backpack . The OM-1 talks of charging the battery in camera with a 20W PowerCore and still be able to use the camera.Have you tested this yourself? I plan on 3 months Arctic winter -40c to -55c . Although I generally travel lite with a Sony RX100 V or similar I dont expect them to last the Artic.Cheers
Sorry, I only have this Anker Powerbank, so can't test with a 20w. I use my power-bank to power my camera and tracker overnight when doing astrophotography. I've used it in 0c temps without an issue. In-camera battery stays full and plenty of power left in the power bank.
Hey Rob, just wanted to say that it was you who got me into Olympus system. I started with Em10 mark 2 instead of mark 3 because of how much more you can customize it. Wonderful little camera for a start.
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am interested in the bracket you are using to mount the smaller camera behind the larger one. I would find that helpful in recording the LCD screen.
Thanks for making the video Rob and showing the setting to have it automatically charging when USB is plugged in. In Australia when you buy the EM1 Mark III, Olympus is running a promotion that you can get a bonus Anker PowerCore+ 26800 portable charger for free upon redemption. I am waiting to get my charger in the mail, there is a 40 day wait before Olympus process the claim before shipping it out...
@@RobTrek I live in Melbourne, Australia. Olympus was offering a free 25mm F1.8 lens when the EM5 Mark III came out. BTW in Australia the EM1 Mark III body only costs nearly AU$3000! 🤯💸
Thank you, Rob, Strangely enough, I was actually shopping for a power bank today. So yours was a very timely posting. Well done on discovering that the official Olympus information is wrong or, maybe, misleading. You can operate the camera from an external power source, however, I presume that you cannot BOTH charge the battery + operate the camera when connected to an external power source? Strrangely, I notice that the Olympus manual says that if the [camera's] batteries are at a very low charge level [or completely depleted], then you cannot run the E-M1 MkIII off an external power supply. This would seem to indicate that the feature is useless in the event that you're say, on a real estate shoot and flatten your battery. You cannot switch to the power bank or hook up to a laptop that is, itself, hooked up the the grid. That you need charged batteries and that the supplied USB cable is incompatible with running off external power kind of punches a big hole in the usefulness of this feature. For the price we're paying, they could at least have supplied the correct USB cable; else it's pointless having the circuitry inside the camera! Rick
@@RobTrek To clarify: if the USB power is connected and the camera is powered off, then the USB is charging the battery. Whereas, if the camera is on (to take pictures) then the USB cable is powering the camera but *not* charging the battery. Also, as discussed in your livestream, you must have some remaining power in the battery when you initiate the connection, as the camera needs its own power to tell the power pack how much power it needs before it can safely draw power from the power pack. Rick
this is great info. Thanks so much. I didn't bring my battery charger on a trip but then I realized I should be able to charge by USB. Great explanation
Interesting, In Australia I picked up the Anker power bank via redemption when I purchased my Mark 3. It only came however with 1 cable USB to USB C. No AC charger so when initially charging the bank I used an AC adapter from my phone and it took quite awhile to fully charge. Still power bank charges phones quite quick so very versatile.
Very interesting video. It's also a long awaited option that could be useful for astrophotography and timelapse (in addition to starry AF). Concerning the noname batteries, I have a bunch of them for astrophotography in very remote places. For sure, they are welling and loosing capacity more than original ones. Some of them are just dead. I will not charge them inside the camera but I will still use them, considering the price of genuine one.
@@RobTrek While thinking about it, while using Live View on a PC or MAC in OM Capture software does the OM-D EM-1 Mark II make the "Zoom frame AF/Zoom AF (Super Spot AF)" feature available in Live View on a computer monitor?
Thanks so much for this Rob. I just got the MkIII and was totally baffled as to what I could use for USB power and charging, this clears it up. More accessories to buy though!
Thank for the info Rob very helpful, we have a campervan that we have fitted usb 12v charging points do you know if it's ok the use the cable supplied with the camera to plug straight in to charge? Regards Jan
The supplied cable will only allow charging the cameras battery, not power it. To power the camera you need a USB-C PD compatible power source and cable.
Excellent information. Does anyone know if the EM1 MK III will work with the updated version of this powerbank? I was thinking about the updated one becuase it has more USB C ports.
Rob, thanks a lot for this super useful video! I was reading manual and saw USB PD. I know it is relatively rare thing, very few power banks supports it. You went a long way to get things right. BTW several laptops, for example Microsoft Surface Laptop 3, supports USB PD instead of Thunderbolt 3 power delivery (like MacBooks) so this Anker can be used for it too.
Thanks so much for this Rob. I was able to use my Anker PD to achieve powering the camera. One thing I noticed that simultaneously if I try to tether it via HDMI, it is not possible to tether. I could not get the information in the Manual regarding this. Have you noticed the same. Is there a way out? Thanks
@@RobTrek Thanks for the prompt reply. I suppose we can't do the latest USB tether too when I use USB PD charging. Only way probably is to use DC coupler or AC charger to a battery grip :(
@@KrishnaMohanDr and Rob .... While only a few use OMD line up for video projects, those of us who do rely on HDMI for recording longer than 29 min sessions. Based on your findings/discussions, this seems to be a serious limitation:-( Which DC coupler are you using? Does this use a dummy battery of sorts?
Hi Rob, I managed to charge the OM-D1 MkIII with an ordinary Power Bank with the following spec: ANKER PowerCore20100 20100mAh/73.36W Output 5V=4.8A Don't know why it works since it is far away from Olympus requirements, however it works! Regards Johannes
Thanks for sharing, Johannes. I think most power banks will charge the camera, but only the higher spec'd models can run the camera. Were you able to run the camera off that power bank or just charge the battery?
Enjoyed your tech findings for EM1.3's battery charging and AC power running. Anker has newer model - Anker Power Bank, PowerCore III Elite 25600 PD 60W with 65W PD Charger (a slight upgrade from what Olympus and you have recommended) - would this be compatible with EM1.3 for charging battery and AC power run?
One important thing to note is that USB PD doesn't work together with HDMI Output which is quite a frustration and potential oversight in the product development. PS: as specified in the manual the USB-PD needs to give at least 28W and specifically one of the mentioned modes: 9V3A, 15V2A You can usually find this information on the technical specifications of the Powerbank
Ron .. I solved My problem by inquiring on DP Review You cannot have a battery grip on camera When I took it off Eureka It worked just like your Video....Thanks
Hello Rob, I appreciate your terrific videos! I have an OM-D EM-1 mark ii, and was wondering if you have any thoughts about this dummy battery kit: Bescor BLH1AC Dummy Battery & AC Adapter Kit. Thanks!
Thank you for the video! It made me laugh so much. Honestly, that was exactly what I experienced when I tried to charge my OMD EM1 III externally. Thank you so much for the tips.🙏
Hi! I recently bought the Olympus OMD EM10 Mark IV and was wondering if this way of "charging" could work for that as well. I am going on a long roadtrip and realized I wont be able to charge it in the car through a car port and thought maybe this could work for it? Thanks in advance for any input on this dilemma!
While this method should work, you should be able to charge from a USB car port as well. I don't see anything in the manual (page 17) that would limit your USB charging options.
Good video, Rob, thank you. Yesterday I experienced something that I hadn't given any thought to. I wanted to use my M1-Mk III as a video camera for a live stream. I plugged in a property rated AC adapter via the USB C port. The camera was coupled to a BMD ATEM mini-extreme video switch and, when I connected the external power, the HDMI feed went black. Just trying to sort that now to see what settings I might have messed up. The USB PD setting was selected. The camera's video feed was fine running on the internal battery. Got any ideas?
Unfortunately the HDMI will not work with USB PD. I get about 3 hours of streaming on a single battery. If you need more, then you can get one of those dummy batteries.
Good info Rob );-) interesting that Olympus, as a promotion for the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III, gave away a Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh. But! no charger, or power cable to camera. Mine has been sitting on the shelf for a while now until I saw your video (:-)
Hey Rob I bought your setup for my new Em1MIII and did what you instucted but the USB PD never lights up to complete the function. What am I doing wrong. Thanks. John
Make sure the camera is off when you have the power bank plugged in to it. Then make sure the power bank is turned on. Finally, the LED light on the camera should come on after a few seconds unless the battery is already fully charged. Another condition where the LED light will not come on is when you have a cable plugged into the hdmi port.
@@RobTrek Thanks so much for your quick reply ... I have done again exactly what you instucted in your video.. When the camera is off I connect from Anker to camera (having the Anker already turned on) I wait for the orange light to go on bottom left of my EM1MIII then turn on the camera. Then what comes up is of course Storage. MTP. PCRAW. comp/cam symbol and then the USB PD(which is GREYED OUT and unable to be activated). Ther must be something in the Menu that is preventing the USB PD from being turned on .....
V useful. Had major problems trying to get my E-M1 Miii to sp to my MacBook Pro 16" re firmware download - hubs will not work, could only use special Apple new connector. No probs though using pc. Discovered from Olympus that the firmware for both Mac and PC are the same so no probs caused switching from pc back to Mac.
Great info. I have also found that my MacBook Pro 16 96watt charger and supplied cable will power my EM-1 Mk3 when camera is turned on and will charge the battery when the camera is off. Just made my bag lighter!
Thanks Rob. This video is really helpfull. I've been struggling for a while trying to figure out how to power the camera from an external power supply. I understand now the issue.
Hi Rob thanks for sharing this video I have now brought one of the batteries, is there a way of using the external battery and running an external monitor on a 1 MK 111, when the battery is plugged in it tunes off the external monitor.
@@RobTrek Hi Rob had this reply from Olympus. Thank you for your email regarding your E-M1 Mark III and HDMI connection to an external monitor. May I please advise that HDMI and USB connections cannot be used at the same time. I believe you are using the external battery via USB connection and USB PD function, therefore, HDMI connection is disabled. I am sorry this is the case. If you wish to keep your camera powered on for extended period of time, and use HDMI at the same time, one way is to purchase HLD-9 battery grip and AC-5 AC adapter. The AC adapter is plugged to the battery grip and whilst this does not charge batteries, it will keep the camera powered on. Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. I will be happy to help you.
Hi Rob, I'm José from a town near Barcelona, I have the olympus om-d e-m1 mark iii and the olympus zuiko 300 f4 lens and I love your tutorials. Too bad I don't understand the language but I pay attention to the details. I would like to know if the power bank Anker from UK. They can send it to Spain and with a plug for here naturally and thank you very much for the tutorials in advance 👍👍👍
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No, it uses usb 2.0. So any decent 5v usb power bank will work. All of the ones I own work fine with the em5iii, including the ones shown in this video.
Please...Can you tell me how I can use an external power supply at this version(E-M1 mark1). For Zoom Video Broadcasting I have no idea which product to buy.
Hi. You'll need to use a dummy battery like this one: amzn.to/3poBQPM Just plug into a decent USB power bank or USB wall power adapter. I've used 2 amp but 3 amp is better.
How long does it take to get a flat battery to 10% as I see from the manual the battery needs that before you can power it via USB power. Does that mean it just keeps the battery at least up to 10% and you are still using the battery as a pass through device? From the manual This feature cannot be used at battery levels of 10% or less.
I got the external power supply to work but when I try to plug in a capture card to the camera, the capture card wont work (works fine when power bank isn't connected) do you have any advice for this?
Sorry, Ana. The E-M5II doesn't support external power. I believe you can get a grip for it that has an a/c adapter port. HLD-8 portrait grip and use the AC-03 A/C adapter
Very useful video. Olympus requires you to buy an HLD-9 and an AC-5 in order to use AC current, costs about $360. This is a much more reasonable approach for an AC adapter.
A huge limitation with the Mark III is that you cannot get HDMI video out while USB is connected, so you cannot use the camera as a video camera sending 4K raw video out to a recorder or as a webcam or studio cam. You have to buy the HLD-9 grip and AC-5 power supply. Using the grip and power supply will not charge the batteries in the camera and grip. Using the USB port will not charge the grip battery, and again kills the HDMI output. In short, Olympus did not fully consider the use cases for externally powering the camera especially when using it for video. I hope Olympus monitors these videos, and provides a firmware update that, at a minimum, lets the camera output video via the HDMI port while being powered by USB. Regarding the need for a powerful USB source, this information was very hard to find. A 25w USB power supply won't do it, you need at least 3 amps or more (I bought a 2.5 Amp supply first, then bought a 5A supply). Even so, the fact that connecting a USB cable kills HDMI output is hidden in the manual. I have a half dozen Olympus MFT cameras, from the early PENs to a couple of E-PL7s to the PEN-F, to the E-M1 Mark II to the Mark III. I understand how Olympus has focused on still photography, but video IS the new still photography. Come on, Olympus, get it together! Supposedly the new OM-1 solves this problem... but without a significant increase in video capabilities, e.g., 6K, I'm not buying one... a FF dSLR with 4K/10-bit/120 fps or better is likely my next purchase.
I agree, they definitely drop the ball on HDMI output. I doubt OM Systems will ever address the need for high end video creators. Unless the GH6 becomes a smash hit for Panasonic, they won't be motivated to do so.
Unfortunately, no external power options for the e-m10 mark 2. Some people have found dummy batteries that connect to a power brick or a/c device, but I haven't used those.
@@RobTrek Thanks a lot, Rob. Yes I was disappointed, the moment I realized I don't have a C sucket! Guess I have no way to shoot the entire night for soon to come, meteor shower unless I get a different camera as with a native battery I can't get more than an hour or so, and really not possible to stay awake the whole night to charge multiple batteries. Sad that Olympus has made a lot of features in the camera including a very good time-lapse feature but not given the ability to power supply it for long, as needed. Thanks again for the reply.
How timely this was. Since I recently bought into the new EM1x i was looking to take advantage of the in-camera charging capabilities of this camera and while snooping on Olympus's own website also located the recommended Anker power brick and charger for the brick. Pricey, but I shouldn't split peas now especially after spending the $2399 on my new EM1x... I really need to put the brakes on my G.A.S. o-virus......eek
Hi, Neftali! Good to hear from you. I see you on instagram and facebook time to time but not much here on youtube. I don't think you can power the em1x but can charge the batter? Not sure. Let me know when you get the power brick. Thanks.
@@RobTrek Well not too concern about using the camera while connected to the power brick...be awfully cumbersome unless you're in a studio situation. I'm preparing for some extended field work out in the desert and instead of purchasing more batteries I opted for the Anker. Besides recharging my camera you can of course use it to recharge phones, iPads etc... I will hopefully get around to offering some impromptu TH-cam reviews on the EM1X , accessories I use and that whole experience as a BTS. But, as you know all too well...its hard to be a one man band! : )
Hi Rob, can you please be so kind and give me the link to buy your AC power adapter?! That would be wonderful. Thx so much, best regards from Germany and stay healthy - Andrea Dublaski / Spicy Artworks
Apparently...they haven't sorted it out completely and in the near future...I hope that they will be able to make batteries and cameras run indefinitely with indefinite power supply. I remember that in those old handycams for consumers...you could just keep the battery out and use the camera directly with AC power. I don't know why it's not possible now.
I think it's the usb-c pd protocol. The camera needs to have just enough power to tell the power bank what it needs before accepting anything thing. Otherwise the powerbank could send too much and fry the camera.
Does anybody know about an item called a battery coupler? It's also known as a dummy battery. Its what the stores use to display cameras, you don't see someone at best buy swapping camera batteries, they use dummy batteries. You then need a step up converter cord, which usually comes with, most, any usb charger will work with those two items. Check your camera battery model, and see if they make one. Nearly every other brand, besides Olympus, cameras have a weird little rubber thing on the battery door, that's designed to have the cord run out off the compartment, keeping the battery door closed. Some Olympus models have the rubber thing i speak of, some don't, you can always leave the battery door open, if no movable part on the battery door. It is a nice feature of the EM1 mark 3, I figured I would make a comment for those who have other Olympus models that do not have the charge and use feature. I don't have this, but there are some that do,
@@RobTrek i think the camera companies selling us $50 batteries may have a little to do with hard to find:). Great video though. You are my favorite Olympus dude! Laid back and help others believe they can take pro pics, then you show them how!
USB-C power cancels HDMI output. So, no monitor for video unless you use the internal battery? What in the world? The Sony A7iii can swing this and even the tiny ZV1, though it's micro USB.
I hear Watson is very good. Not as cheap as wasabi, but still about half the cost of originals. Either way, I don't like charging batteries in the camera, original or not.
Also, for those that don't know, you can only charge the battery in-camera while the camera is turned off. You can't use the usb to power the camera directly.
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Hi Rob, I have a pair of OM-1's, and ran into this problem last week in the field. Customer Support referred me to your video. I found the same thing during my testing in the field last week, not surprisingly the one Powerbank I had that both powered and charged is the Anker, a very similar model, and I just picked up a second for backup as well. Great job on the video, coincidentally other than reading the manual I went through the same steps in the field as the batteries were running down and I had each body connected to a separate power bank. I found about the same timing as you did for charging, the really nice thing, I was still able to use the camera, that is a huge bonus. In general, the one you found that works, I have fully recharged my laptop, my cell phone as well, several times over. Thank you very much !
Glad to help. I'm surprised they referred you to my video. I had no idea they even knew who I was, LOL. -Rob
Even years later after you first posted...planning a trip to Europe and I really appreciate the level of detail you have provided, bar none the most useful video on this issue I've watched. Thanks for what you do!
Have fun!
This info is great. I have asked Olympus and they said that the camera cannot be used while charging via USB. Another hidden gem! Thanks Rob for making this video and the research for it.
Hi Peter, I think those are two different things: you can either 1. Charge the battery in the camera (camera has to be off) or 2. Run the camera from external PD compatible powerbank (but no charging of internal battery in the same time)
Thanks, Peter. You have to pick charging or power, can't do both at the same time.
Rob Trek does this work with the EM5 mark iii? I’d love to use PD with it.
Don't know OMD EM5 mk iii can or not?
You can use the camera but cannot output HDMI video while the USB cable is selected. You need at least 3A/27W to use the camera while powering from USB... I recommend at least a 4A/35W charger to have a margin and you must use a USB-C cable and a USB PD-capable battery or charger. Or, you can get the HLD-9 battery grip and AC-5 power supply and run the E-M1 Mark II/III off of external 120/220VAC power and output HDMI video.
Great Vid, Rob! I followed your advice and the Anker product works very well, indeed. In your video, starting at 8:56, you mention a tip to accelerate the selection of PD power when connecting the Anker battery (c.f. gear > D4 > USB PD). I think two additional and relatively important tips should be that:
"1. Tethered power supply only works if the camera’s internal battery is
charged to at least 10%."
"2. Tethered power supply is disabled if the HLD-9 grip / battery holder is
attached to the camera, regardless of whether or not it’s holding a battery (the USB PD option is grayed out on the camera’s normal USB mode screen)."
I removed my HLD-9 grip and sure enough the USB PD was no longer grayed out. However, it did power my EM1iii although the internal battery was at 100%.
Thanks for the important tips!
Thank you so much for doing this test and getting that power brick! I could not figure out why none of my bricks were working! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Rob, I enjoy your channel as it is very informative and easy to follow along. Great information...I own the M1 MarkIII, with it I have the PBH(power Battery Handle) which I love. You may want to pass along that the internal battery does not seem to charge or utilized the power cell when the PBH is connected. The PBH does have its own connection cord for power that can be used to bypass the PBH battery to use the camera. I'm not happy that is does not charge the battery in the PBH(Why OLYMPUS). The option to choose from the home screen does not highlight to use the USB PD. When I disconnect the PBH, the camera works perfectly with the Anker power cell as the USB PD option is now highlighted. And yes I did follow your link for the Anker power cell, I hope others do as well.
Thanks for the update, James. They should have thought through the entire process a bit more. Of course, that can be said about many things with Olympus. Appreciate the support via links!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I was wondering what level of compatibility Olympus E-M1 III has with power banks (and now it seems to be just on product confirmed). 3 years ago I got stuck in Brussels Train Station with no cash and no power and no way to get back to the UK and the only thing that saved me was a 5 Euro I found in a corner that got me a cup of coffee and about 3 hours to stay in a coffee (they wouldn't let me use their power outlets unless I was a paid customer) that helped me charge up my phone so I could call a friend and ask for help ... and made it back to the UK 24 hours later. My Panasonic GX7 (all I had back then) was nearly dead and no way to charge it either. This power bank is on my shopping cart for next month now ... lesson learned.
I think we've all been there!
Great info just ordered the mark iii , have the same Anker powerbank , good to know I can use it with Mark iii.
Have watched you a long time, got a lot of info for my Pen F ,best street photography camera.
I would like to see more tutorials on the Mark iii , using the new added features like, Live ND and handheld High Res , Bulb on the Mode dial.
Be glad to get out and take pictures again and you’ll be doing your walk around again. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. I can't wait to get out again. It's really frustrating with the nice weather.
A closer look at the manual indicates that it needs at least 3A@9V or 2A@15V. This basically means you need a 27W USB PD source to run the camera. Some power banks can't supply this much power; I've seen quite a few cheaper power banks rated at only 18W.
I've used three different USB PD power banks of different brands (Jackery, RAVPower, Omars), all rated at 45W. In every case, the camera successfully negotiates 3A@9V, allowing it to run off the power bank. (I don't presently have an Anker USB PD power bank, though I have a number of their wall chargers and non-USB-C power banks.)
Thanks, Brian. Good to know other brands work if rated properly.
This. Rob's camera Screen says 9V 2A so 18W checks out.
Hi Rob great video, I got my EM1 M3 the day of the announcement from Olympus and JIP. When I got the camera there was a bonus of the Anker Powercore+ unit. The unit just arrived and it has 3 usb3 outlets on so no usbC out. The unit will charge the battery. but not power the camera. I tried to order the one on your link but as I live in Australia Anker will not supply this to Australia just the version I got from Olympus. I ordered from Amazon Australia a RAVpower PD Pioneer 20000mAh 60W 2-Ports Power Bank. and a RAVpower 60W charger. I am glad to tell you that this combination WILL power the camera from the power bank and the charger. This gives the users a second option to power the camera.
Thanks for the update. Good to know other power banks work.
In the same boat, ie Aus. But happy to report that the PD ports on both the following chargers work fine powering the EM1 M3.
www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B01D8C6ULO
www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07WLXQGL8
Great info, thx for the research!
One thing that might be worth checking out is if the 2nd power bank you used works together with the USB cable you could successfully use with the third power bank. USB-C is notorious for cable issues. It can often drive you nuts that some cables can do what you intend in a certain combination of devices, whilst in the next scenario the same cable fails and another cable manages to do the intended thing.
This seems to always be an issue when using USB-c USB-c cables for any operation beyond basic data transfer, which seems to work in any combination that I have tried at least.
I really hope that it gets more standardized soon, I have bought so many cables that fail me, and then the next cable I get works, only to later find a specific scenario where the first cable can actually be used. Now I put a sticker on each such cable listing the specific scenarios that it can be used for.
Yeah, the cable situation is confusing. I look very carefully at the specs now. Basically USB-C PD 3.1 Gen 2 is the one to get now, or Thunderbolt. The smaller power supply basically didn't have enough output. Need at least a 30w PD power bank, 45w to be safe.
I came to TH-cam to research the HLD-9 grip and found this video. I think this might actually be a better solution for my application and cheaper too! very informative video thank you!
Glad to help!
Thank you so much for doing this video. I was having some of the same problems trying to figure out why the cables were not working. Thanks again for explaining everything.
You're welcome!
Rob; thanks for this video as it will save many people from needing to discover how to get the correct power bank and cable.
I noticed that the power cable is a USB-C to USB-C PD cable but that there are two types of USB-C cables, some that are used just for charging (PD) and others like the Thunderbolt 3 cables that can do both Power Delivery but also high speed data at the same time. I may be wrong (happens more often than I like) but I think if you want to both charge the EM1 Mark III battery in-camera while Tethering I think it might require a cable compatible with the Thunderbolt 3 standard (power and data). Thought I would pass this along but check it out with others as this is all new to me also.
You are on the right track. USB-C PD can be data capable or not. Thunderbolt is an Intel/Apple Data Spec for Data, but you can still have data capable USB-C PD without Thunderbolt. I don't think Olympus is Thunderbolt compatible because it's not using an Intel processor. I'm pretty sure you can't charge and run the camera at the same time regardless of cable. It would require more power than USB-C is currently spec'd in the EM1-iii.
Rob, thanks; its amazing how complicated its getting just to take some pictures! I'll take a look at the USB-C PD cables then. See you on your channel. Thanks again.
Great information where (Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh PD 45W) 45 watts is the important figure for running the camera. I am deciding on a 0M - 5 but battery wise a OM -1 will be more suitable. Not keen on carrying extra 500gram Anker PowerCore 3 months in my backpack . The OM-1 talks of charging the battery in camera with a 20W PowerCore and still be able to use the camera.Have you tested this yourself? I plan on 3 months Arctic winter -40c to -55c . Although I generally travel lite with a Sony RX100 V or similar I dont expect them to last the Artic.Cheers
Sorry, I only have this Anker Powerbank, so can't test with a 20w. I use my power-bank to power my camera and tracker overnight when doing astrophotography. I've used it in 0c temps without an issue. In-camera battery stays full and plenty of power left in the power bank.
Hey Rob, just wanted to say that it was you who got me into Olympus system.
I started with Em10 mark 2 instead of mark 3 because of how much more you can customize it.
Wonderful little camera for a start.
Thanks. The em10ii, still the best!
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am interested in the bracket you are using to mount the smaller camera behind the larger one. I would find that helpful in recording the LCD screen.
Thanks, Carol. It's a simple flash bracket. amzn.to/376MBA8
Thanks for making the video Rob and showing the setting to have it automatically charging when USB is plugged in. In Australia when you buy the EM1 Mark III, Olympus is running a promotion that you can get a bonus Anker PowerCore+ 26800 portable charger for free upon redemption. I am waiting to get my charger in the mail, there is a 40 day wait before Olympus process the claim before shipping it out...
Where are you, Ajay? Here in USA we get $200 trade in bonus.
@@RobTrek I live in Melbourne, Australia. Olympus was offering a free 25mm F1.8 lens when the EM5 Mark III came out. BTW in Australia the EM1 Mark III body only costs nearly AU$3000! 🤯💸
Thank you, Rob,
Strangely enough, I was actually shopping for a power bank today. So yours was a very timely posting.
Well done on discovering that the official Olympus information is wrong or, maybe, misleading. You can operate the camera from an external power source, however, I presume that you cannot BOTH charge the battery + operate the camera when connected to an external power source?
Strrangely, I notice that the Olympus manual says that if the [camera's] batteries are at a very low charge level [or completely depleted], then you cannot run the E-M1 MkIII off an external power supply. This would seem to indicate that the feature is useless in the event that you're say, on a real estate shoot and flatten your battery. You cannot switch to the power bank or hook up to a laptop that is, itself, hooked up the the grid.
That you need charged batteries and that the supplied USB cable is incompatible with running off external power kind of punches a big hole in the usefulness of this feature. For the price we're paying, they could at least have supplied the correct USB cable; else it's pointless having the circuitry inside the camera!
Rick
Correct, you have to pick charging or power with the E-M1 Mark III. Charging only in the E-M5 III.
@@RobTrek To clarify: if the USB power is connected and the camera is powered off, then the USB is charging the battery. Whereas, if the camera is on (to take pictures) then the USB cable is powering the camera but *not* charging the battery.
Also, as discussed in your livestream, you must have some remaining power in the battery when you initiate the connection, as the camera needs its own power to tell the power pack how much power it needs before it can safely draw power from the power pack.
Rick
this is great info. Thanks so much. I didn't bring my battery charger on a trip but then I realized I should be able to charge by USB. Great explanation
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting, In Australia I picked up the Anker power bank via redemption when I purchased my Mark 3. It only came however with 1 cable USB to USB C. No AC charger so when initially charging the bank I used an AC adapter from my phone and it took quite awhile to fully charge. Still power bank charges phones quite quick so very versatile.
Yes, it comes in handy. Thanks.
Thank you for the breakdown! Very useful!
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting video. It's also a long awaited option that could be useful for astrophotography and timelapse (in addition to starry AF). Concerning the noname batteries, I have a bunch of them for astrophotography in very remote places. For sure, they are welling and loosing capacity more than original ones. Some of them are just dead. I will not charge them inside the camera but I will still use them, considering the price of genuine one.
Thanks for sharing your experience. You're not alone in using generics! Glad to you don't charge them in-camera.
Excellent critical analysis and R&D.
Thank you!
@@RobTrek While thinking about it, while using Live View on a PC or MAC in OM Capture software does the OM-D EM-1 Mark II make the "Zoom frame AF/Zoom AF (Super Spot AF)" feature available in Live View on a computer monitor?
@@patrickjack2943 I'm sorry, Patrick. I've not used the Capture software so I don't know.
Thanks so much for this Rob. I just got the MkIII and was totally baffled as to what I could use for USB power and charging, this clears it up. More accessories to buy though!
Glad to help. Thanks. -Rob Also note that the HDMI out doesn't work when powering the camera via usb. I didn't mention that in this video.
Hope you can make your best settings on Mark III.
Will do. Need some more field time with the camera first but already finding some interesting tweaks.
@@RobTrek thank you 🙏
Great info I was considering just any power bank until I stumbled onto your video. Very much appreciated, keep up the good work!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank for the info Rob very helpful, we have a campervan that we have fitted usb 12v charging points do you know if it's ok the use the cable supplied with the camera to plug straight in to charge? Regards Jan
The supplied cable will only allow charging the cameras battery, not power it. To power the camera you need a USB-C PD compatible power source and cable.
@@RobTrek thanks, I'll get the power pack you recommend to to charge on the move👍
Excellent information. Does anyone know if the EM1 MK III will work with the updated version of this powerbank? I was thinking about the updated one becuase it has more USB C ports.
Rob, thanks a lot for this super useful video! I was reading manual and saw USB PD. I know it is relatively rare thing, very few power banks supports it. You went a long way to get things right. BTW several laptops, for example Microsoft Surface Laptop 3, supports USB PD instead of Thunderbolt 3 power delivery (like MacBooks) so this Anker can be used for it too.
Thanks, Mike. Good to know.
Thanks so much for this Rob. I was able to use my Anker PD to achieve powering the camera. One thing I noticed that simultaneously if I try to tether it via HDMI, it is not possible to tether. I could not get the information in the Manual regarding this. Have you noticed the same. Is there a way out? Thanks
Thanks. Sorry, no way to hdmi and usb at the same time.
@@RobTrek Thanks for the prompt reply. I suppose we can't do the latest USB tether too when I use USB PD charging. Only way probably is to use DC coupler or AC charger to a battery grip :(
@@KrishnaMohanDr and Rob .... While only a few use OMD line up for video projects, those of us who do rely on HDMI for recording longer than 29 min sessions. Based on your findings/discussions, this seems to be a serious limitation:-(
Which DC coupler are you using? Does this use a dummy battery of sorts?
Thanks for the invaluable info. Just one question: Will the battery in the grip and camera be charged at the same time?
Actually, I'm not sure since I don't have the grip to try for myself.
Thanks for the video , was wondering why couldn't charge. Question how did u get the red Cross across the display etc. Really like it
Hi. I think you are referring to this feature: th-cam.com/video/Pcnshf4vT-w/w-d-xo.html
@@RobTrek yeah that's the one. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it 👍
Hi Rob, I managed to charge the OM-D1 MkIII with an ordinary Power Bank with the following spec: ANKER PowerCore20100 20100mAh/73.36W Output 5V=4.8A
Don't know why it works since it is far away from Olympus requirements, however it works!
Regards
Johannes
Thanks for sharing, Johannes. I think most power banks will charge the camera, but only the higher spec'd models can run the camera. Were you able to run the camera off that power bank or just charge the battery?
just charging, not operating.
Thanks Rob. Fantastic info as usual!
Thanks, Fahmi.
Enjoyed your tech findings for EM1.3's battery charging and AC power running. Anker has newer model - Anker Power Bank, PowerCore III Elite 25600 PD 60W with 65W PD Charger (a slight upgrade from what Olympus and you have recommended) - would this be compatible with EM1.3 for charging battery and AC power run?
Yes, it will work fine.
Thanks Rob, very helpful ! No way to charge a pen-F during a timelapse or livecomp ?
Thanks. No way to plug in the PenF directly. You'll have to use a dummy battery with a power bank.
@@RobTrek Thanks. interesting, but I don’t know how to do this.. did you make a video about it ?
@@Crotoua I'll make a video. Not sure if it should be a separate video or a compilation type video. Keep an eye out.
@@RobTrek Thanks Rob. BTW, I don't -yet- own an EM1, do you know if the "internal" ND filter can be used in conjonction with the livecomp mode ?
@@Crotoua No, they can't be combined.
One important thing to note is that USB PD doesn't work together with HDMI Output which is quite a frustration and potential oversight in the product development.
PS: as specified in the manual the USB-PD needs to give at least 28W and specifically one of the mentioned modes: 9V3A, 15V2A
You can usually find this information on the technical specifications of the Powerbank
Thanks for the tips! At the time, I didn't know the hdmi got handicapped.
@@RobTrek I saw you also own the OM-1. Would you mind testing if this limitation also exists on the newer version?
Ron .. I solved My problem by inquiring on DP Review You cannot have a battery grip on camera When I took it off Eureka It worked just like your Video....Thanks
Thanks for the update. Didn't realize you had a grip!
Hello Rob, I appreciate your terrific videos! I have an OM-D EM-1 mark ii, and was wondering if you have any thoughts about this dummy battery kit: Bescor BLH1AC Dummy Battery & AC Adapter Kit.
Thanks!
Sorry I can't really comment on it since I don't own that specific device but the feedback from buyers seems to be positive.
Thank you for the video! It made me laugh so much. Honestly, that was exactly what I experienced when I tried to charge my OMD EM1 III externally. Thank you so much for the tips.🙏
Glad it helped!
Hi! I recently bought the Olympus OMD EM10 Mark IV and was wondering if this way of "charging" could work for that as well. I am going on a long roadtrip and realized I wont be able to charge it in the car through a car port and thought maybe this could work for it? Thanks in advance for any input on this dilemma!
While this method should work, you should be able to charge from a USB car port as well. I don't see anything in the manual (page 17) that would limit your USB charging options.
Good video, Rob, thank you. Yesterday I experienced something that I hadn't given any thought to. I wanted to use my M1-Mk III as a video camera for a live stream. I plugged in a property rated AC adapter via the USB C port. The camera was coupled to a BMD ATEM mini-extreme video switch and, when I connected the external power, the HDMI feed went black. Just trying to sort that now to see what settings I might have messed up. The USB PD setting was selected. The camera's video feed was fine running on the internal battery. Got any ideas?
Unfortunately the HDMI will not work with USB PD. I get about 3 hours of streaming on a single battery. If you need more, then you can get one of those dummy batteries.
Good info Rob );-) interesting that Olympus, as a promotion for the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III, gave away a Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh. But! no charger, or power cable to camera. Mine has been sitting on the shelf for a while now until I saw your video (:-)
That is odd. You'd think they'd always include the charger. Was this in the US?
@@RobTrek No , New Zealoand
Hey Rob I bought your setup for my new Em1MIII and did what you instucted but the USB PD never lights up to complete the function. What am I doing wrong. Thanks. John
Make sure the camera is off when you have the power bank plugged in to it. Then make sure the power bank is turned on. Finally, the LED light on the camera should come on after a few seconds unless the battery is already fully charged. Another condition where the LED light will not come on is when you have a cable plugged into the hdmi port.
@@RobTrek Thanks so much for your quick reply ... I have done again exactly what you instucted in your video.. When the camera is off I connect from Anker to camera (having the Anker already turned on) I wait for the orange light to go on bottom left of my EM1MIII then turn on the camera. Then what comes up is of course Storage. MTP. PCRAW. comp/cam symbol and then the USB PD(which is GREYED OUT and unable to be activated). Ther must be something in the Menu that is preventing the USB PD from being turned on .....
V useful. Had major problems trying to get my E-M1 Miii to sp to my MacBook Pro 16" re firmware download - hubs will not work, could only use special Apple new connector. No probs though using pc. Discovered from Olympus that the firmware for both Mac and PC are the same so no probs caused switching from pc back to Mac.
Glad you finally got it to work. I know very little about Apple stuff.
Rob did you have to buy a separate cable to connect the Anker to the Camera?
No. The Anker came with a cable that works to power the E-M1 Mark III.
Great info. I have also found that my MacBook Pro 16 96watt charger and supplied cable will power my EM-1 Mk3 when camera is turned on and will charge the battery when the camera is off. Just made my bag lighter!
Thanks for the update. Good to know.
Thanks Tim!! This is very helpful info.
Thanks Rob. This video is really helpfull. I've been struggling for a while trying to figure out how to power the camera from an external power supply. I understand now the issue.
Glad this helped. USB-C is confusing.
Hi Rob thanks for sharing this video I have now brought one of the batteries, is there a way of using the external battery and running an external monitor on a 1 MK 111, when the battery is plugged in it tunes off the external monitor.
Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to do that. Not sure why the hdmi turns off with the usb power.
@@RobTrek Thanks for the reply Rob I think I will try to email Olympus and see if they come up with an answer.
@@RobTrek Hi Rob had this reply from Olympus.
Thank you for your email regarding your E-M1 Mark III and HDMI connection to an external monitor.
May I please advise that HDMI and USB connections cannot be used at the same time.
I believe you are using the external battery via USB connection and USB PD function, therefore, HDMI connection is disabled. I am sorry this is the case.
If you wish to keep your camera powered on for extended period of time, and use HDMI at the same time, one way is to purchase HLD-9 battery grip and AC-5 AC adapter.
The AC adapter is plugged to the battery grip and whilst this does not charge batteries, it will keep the camera powered on.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. I will be happy to help you.
Hi Rob, I'm José from a town near Barcelona, I have the olympus om-d e-m1 mark iii and the olympus zuiko 300 f4 lens and I love your tutorials. Too bad I don't understand the language but I pay attention to the details. I would like to know if the power bank Anker from UK. They can send it to Spain and with a plug for here naturally and thank you very much for the tutorials in advance 👍👍👍
Hi. I'm sorry, but I don't know where Amazon will ship to.
@@RobTrek OK thank you very much anyway and above all for helping me👍📷
@@ericseale793 Hello, thank you very much I already have it at home I have obtained it in Amazon Spain Anker PowerCore + 26800 PD - 45W External Battery with 60W PD Charger, External Battery for USB-C Laptops, MacBook Air / Pro / DELL XPS / iPad Pro 2018, iPhone 11 Pro / 11 / XS / X and more
Rob, I'm still considering the E-M5 III. Does it also have these USB restraints. I'm more concerned with in camera charging than powering the camera.
No, it uses usb 2.0. So any decent 5v usb power bank will work. All of the ones I own work fine with the em5iii, including the ones shown in this video.
@@RobTrek Thanks
Please...Can you tell me how I can use an external power supply at this version(E-M1 mark1).
For Zoom Video Broadcasting
I have no idea which product to buy.
Hi. You'll need to use a dummy battery like this one: amzn.to/3poBQPM Just plug into a decent USB power bank or USB wall power adapter. I've used 2 amp but 3 amp is better.
@@RobTrek Thank you so much~~!!
very helpful, best regards from Germany, where no one is able to make a similar video.
Thank you very much!
A+++++ would watch again!!!!
Thank you!
A really useful bit of information.Thank you
Thank you, Les.
How long does it take to get a flat battery to 10% as I see from the manual the battery needs that before you can power it via USB power. Does that mean it just keeps the battery at least up to 10% and you are still using the battery as a pass through device?
From the manual
This feature cannot be used at battery levels of 10% or less.
I can test for it, but 10% would be about 170 mA. I'm guessing about 10 minutes I'll get back to you on this.
Does this mean that I should not use my iphone bank, which delivers 5v 2a, to charge the batteries of my E-M1X?
It should charge the battery, but you can't run the camera at the same time. However, I don't recommend charging batteries in-camera as a rule.
I got the external power supply to work but when I try to plug in a capture card to the camera, the capture card wont work (works fine when power bank isn't connected) do you have any advice for this?
Hi. Unfortunately the hdmi port is disabled when you plug in the power bank. I found this out only after making the video.
Will a USBC PD Wall Charger work to power the camera the same way the external powerbank will?
Yes, works great!
Thanks for the info!!! Does this work with Olympus OMD em5 m II???
Sorry, Ana. The E-M5II doesn't support external power. I believe you can get a grip for it that has an a/c adapter port. HLD-8 portrait grip and use the AC-03 A/C adapter
Very useful! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Rob I’ve got two cameras and five batteries for me it’ll be easier just to stick them in the charger. I feel safer that way.
Very useful video. Olympus requires you to buy an HLD-9 and an AC-5 in order to use AC current, costs about $360. This is a much more reasonable approach for an AC adapter.
Only thing I didn't mention here is that the HDMI out is disabled when using the usb-c for power. Not sure with the HLD-9.
A huge limitation with the Mark III is that you cannot get HDMI video out while USB is connected, so you cannot use the camera as a video camera sending 4K raw video out to a recorder or as a webcam or studio cam. You have to buy the HLD-9 grip and AC-5 power supply. Using the grip and power supply will not charge the batteries in the camera and grip. Using the USB port will not charge the grip battery, and again kills the HDMI output. In short, Olympus did not fully consider the use cases for externally powering the camera especially when using it for video. I hope Olympus monitors these videos, and provides a firmware update that, at a minimum, lets the camera output video via the HDMI port while being powered by USB.
Regarding the need for a powerful USB source, this information was very hard to find. A 25w USB power supply won't do it, you need at least 3 amps or more (I bought a 2.5 Amp supply first, then bought a 5A supply). Even so, the fact that connecting a USB cable kills HDMI output is hidden in the manual.
I have a half dozen Olympus MFT cameras, from the early PENs to a couple of E-PL7s to the PEN-F, to the E-M1 Mark II to the Mark III. I understand how Olympus has focused on still photography, but video IS the new still photography. Come on, Olympus, get it together! Supposedly the new OM-1 solves this problem... but without a significant increase in video capabilities, e.g., 6K, I'm not buying one... a FF dSLR with 4K/10-bit/120 fps or better is likely my next purchase.
I agree, they definitely drop the ball on HDMI output. I doubt OM Systems will ever address the need for high end video creators. Unless the GH6 becomes a smash hit for Panasonic, they won't be motivated to do so.
A lot of very helpful info, Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Rob, how about em10 mark2? Thank you
Unfortunately, no external power options for the e-m10 mark 2. Some people have found dummy batteries that connect to a power brick or a/c device, but I haven't used those.
Can this be done with the OM-D E-M10 Mark ii?
Sorry, not possible.
Thanks, great work and usefull..
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, again!
Thanks Etienne.
Rob Trek I started a youtube channel, in 20 Years I hope to be as good as you th-cam.com/video/5Lkp8tkllIU/w-d-xo.html
how many time we can charge that battery with that power bank?
The battery pack has a 25k capacity. The camera battery is 1.7k. So I would guess at least 10 times.
@@RobTrek not bad, thanks.Do you knows other power Banks that arę compatibile with that camera?
This does not work on OM10 III, does it?
Unfortunately, no. The em10iii doesn't have usb charging according to the manual.
@@RobTrek Thanks a lot, Rob. Yes I was disappointed, the moment I realized I don't have a C sucket!
Guess I have no way to shoot the entire night for soon to come, meteor shower unless I get a different camera as with a native battery I can't get more than an hour or so, and really not possible to stay awake the whole night to charge multiple batteries. Sad that Olympus has made a lot of features in the camera including a very good time-lapse feature but not given the ability to power supply it for long, as needed.
Thanks again for the reply.
Compré un cable USB a C y no funciona en vez de C a C. Cree que esto es importante?
I'm sorry, I don't understand Spanish and google could not translate.
How timely this was. Since I recently bought into the new EM1x i was looking to take advantage of the in-camera charging capabilities of this camera and while snooping on Olympus's own website also located the recommended Anker power brick and charger for the brick. Pricey, but I shouldn't split peas now especially after spending the $2399 on my new EM1x... I really need to put the brakes on my G.A.S. o-virus......eek
Hi, Neftali! Good to hear from you. I see you on instagram and facebook time to time but not much here on youtube. I don't think you can power the em1x but can charge the batter? Not sure. Let me know when you get the power brick. Thanks.
@@RobTrek Well not too concern about using the camera while connected to the power brick...be awfully cumbersome unless you're in a studio situation. I'm preparing for some extended field work out in the desert and instead of purchasing more batteries I opted for the Anker. Besides recharging my camera you can of course use it to recharge phones, iPads etc... I will hopefully get around to offering some impromptu TH-cam reviews on the EM1X , accessories I use and that whole experience as a BTS. But, as you know all too well...its hard to be a one man band! : )
I like it whenever someone says "everything you need..."😀Great advice, for Olympus users.
Thanks, Matti!
thanks, very helpful
Thanks, Johannes.
Mine charges with my car lighter usb fast charger. Screen stays on the wait screen but battery charges fine
Yes, almost any usb-c charger will charge the battery but not all will run the camera. You'll need a PD60watt compliant usbc.
Thanks Rob. I messed with in camera charging and it didn’t work. And now I know why. Lol
Glad to help!
Very useful video.
Thanks, David.
take a shot every time Rob says "power"
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Apparently...they haven't sorted it out completely and in the near future...I hope that they will be able to make batteries and cameras run indefinitely with indefinite power supply. I remember that in those old handycams for consumers...you could just keep the battery out and use the camera directly with AC power. I don't know why it's not possible now.
I think it's the usb-c pd protocol. The camera needs to have just enough power to tell the power bank what it needs before accepting anything thing. Otherwise the powerbank could send too much and fry the camera.
Does anybody know about an item called a battery coupler? It's also known as a dummy battery. Its what the stores use to display cameras, you don't see someone at best buy swapping camera batteries, they use dummy batteries. You then need a step up converter cord, which usually comes with, most, any usb charger will work with those two items. Check your camera battery model, and see if they make one.
Nearly every other brand, besides Olympus, cameras have a weird little rubber thing on the battery door, that's designed to have the cord run out off the compartment, keeping the battery door closed.
Some Olympus models have the rubber thing i speak of, some don't, you can always leave the battery door open, if no movable part on the battery door.
It is a nice feature of the EM1 mark 3, I figured I would make a comment for those who have other Olympus models that do not have the charge and use feature.
I don't have this, but there are some that do,
Thanks, Brandon. I've seen them for the BLS1 batteries, but not others. Hard to find.
@@RobTrek i think the camera companies selling us $50 batteries may have a little to do with hard to find:). Great video though.
You are my favorite Olympus dude!
Laid back and help others believe they can take pro pics, then you show them how!
A smaller battery compatible if you find one.
I'm sure the are some and will let you know if I find any.
USB-C power cancels HDMI output. So, no monitor for video unless you use the internal battery? What in the world? The Sony A7iii can swing this and even the tiny ZV1, though it's micro USB.
I thought that was odd too.
@@RobTrek I'm guessing they share a thread on the motherboard or something. Huge bummer
Some aftermarket batteries are good, but Wasabi is the most well known bad one.
I hear Watson is very good. Not as cheap as wasabi, but still about half the cost of originals. Either way, I don't like charging batteries in the camera, original or not.
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Thanks, Chan.
My OM-D E-M10 Mark IV doesn't have a USB-C port. It has a Micro USB port.
Also, for those that don't know, you can only charge the battery in-camera while the camera is turned off. You can't use the usb to power the camera directly.
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I think so.
Thank you for this video!
You are so welcome!
Thanks a lot for sharing.
My pleasure, David.
Very useful, thank you very much!
Happy to help!