@@Buckets1000 I'm an Englishman, I never fully understood the sectarian thing or the anti English sentiment, I fully understand it now after studying it over the past couple of decades, we was always taught that the Republicans were the "bad guys", but I now have complete sympathy with the Republican cause, I despise the DUP nearly as much as Johnson and his lousy government for all the reasons you listed, the blame for all of the issues that grieves the DUP belongs to them, I hope they choke on the mess they have made and I hope the reunification of Ireland will be soon, I want this to be blamed on Johnson and I want his own party to vilify him for it for centuries. 👍👍👍
This is not a matter of 'negotiation' - the protocol is part of an international treaty which has been signed by the UK government. There is room for manoeuvre on its implementation and the EU has in fact offered some sensible solutions, which the UK government has refused.
@@kinngrimm last october, EU offered to ease the controls on some priority goods (medicine mostly) and to set up a "trusted exporter" fast track system, which UK refused because it wanted in essence that all and every export be exempt from checks, on a honor based system. There you are.
@@francoisbourriaud9646 well RNA Nerd spoke in plural " the EU has in fact offered some sensible solutions", so i assume there is more than that example. So basicly Johnson is just trying to appeal(or more like putting sand in their eyes) to his base playing the tough guy while not getting any solutions done. Maybe he should read Trumps book the art of the deal ^^ /sarcasm
@@francoisbourriaud9646 you'll be wasting your time there. In Brexitland everything is the EUs fault. How dare we choose to leave and expect the benefits. On an upside. It's pretty much made Scottish independence inevitable. Poor BREXITEERs, Yoonyinists and Scottish Tories. What a national suicide this has been.
Did not the EU suggest and agree to aline veterinary standards with the UK. There by eliminating most of the paperwork and Britain said no. Or johnsons torries said no, anyway.
It's not just that a border would be a target of violence. The Good Friday Agreement relies upon an open border to function. This is what Brexit was always going to lead to. Maybe more Brits should have thought about it before they voted to leave.
The GFA does not rely on an open border to function, that is a blatant lie, as any reading of the GFA will quickly prove. Why are you so keen to propagate this lie?
The protocol is not a problem we in ni are doing better than mainland UK because of it and most parties support it , Boris and the dup are just using it to cover their failings . The gfa was saved twice from Boris and the dup never supported it . The protocol protected our freedoms and joint rights in ni with UK and ROI
Don't forget the shortage of workers the UK is suffering too. Since apparently Brexit meant making the UK a 'hostile environment' for all foreign born workers (that wasn't on the ballot). I can see this causing the end of the UK as Ireland and Scotland will leave the UK in order to join the EU.
@@emmaoverington6432 I don't see Scotland leaving the union to join the EU any time soon. All power to the Scots if that's the way the majority want to go but the Tory government is planning on massive divergence from EU standards which would mean some sort of customs border between England in order for Scotland to join the single market. That would be economically and politically very difficult for all in the (dis)United Kingdom. If we boot the Tories into the weeds, get some sane representation (preferably some form of proportional representation instead of the archaic First past the posts electoral system) and start to build a customs union with the EU, then things will be considerably easier for Scottish independence, or at least further devolution.
@@pauln6803 Scotland is already aligned with EU regs (as is the rest of the UK right now). We already have a situation with a border required within the UK (NI/ROI). So a border between Scotland and little England is no different, in fact easier as Scotland would be happy to distance themselves from Westminster at that point. As Westminster keep saying, it could be a hard border, an invisible border, an electronic border (whatever that means), Schrodinger's border. There are options. I feel there's far more chance of an already aligned Scotland leaving the UK to re-join the EU than for any party to beat the tories in a FPTP election, then change the electoral system to STV PP or whatever form of PP, then start to negotiate and build a customs union with the EU.
I wish the presenter had a better idea of the Civil Rights origins of Catholic unrest over systematic discrimination over jobs and housing achieved by blatent gerrymandering.
Not really you can watch a good BBC doc from the 70s on here about the UK stepping in to tr y and tackle what he's talking about ,they even warned it would lead to trouble before the violence properly kicked in and they had to send military to protect Catholic areas
The existential threat to the union is that people in NI may increasingly want to unite with Ireland - should be an obvious thing to do. The NIP is not a problem as such actually. DUP and it´s supporters are not working on the interests of NI but on the interest of England.
The DUP only lost seats because they were seen as being too soft on the protocol.. These people who try to claim that "The Majority Of People In NI Support The Protocol Because The Majority Of Parties In Stormont Support The Protocol..!!" THIS IS A NONSENSE..!! They've No Mandate For The Protocol In Any Way, Shape Or Form Off The Back Of That Election.. They Ruled That Mandate Out Themselves..!! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PRO PROTOCOL PARTIES DURING THE ELECTION DEBATES CHASTISED JEFFERY DONALDSON WHEN HE SAID THEY WOULD USE THIS ELECTION AS A MANDATE FOR THE PROTOCOL & A BORDER POLL.. THEY "ALL" SAID THIS STORMONT ELECTION WOULDN'T EFFECT THE PROTOCOL OR A BORDER POLL.. THEY SAID IT CAN'T BE DONE FROM STORMONT..!! FACT..!! NI is doing OK economically IN SPITE OF THE PROTOCOL.. Not because of it.. We'd be doing better without it.. And this is ONLY before the Grace Periods end.. When these Grace Periods end it will damage NI's economy even more.. Which is why the very people who were calling for the "Rigorous Implementation" of the protocol are now saying it needs fixed.. The ONLY People who support the protocol are people who either haven't a clue what they're talking about, and, or want to see the complete destruction of Northern Ireland as an entity.. The majority of these political representatives lording Businesses in Northern Ireland have never been in agreement with The NI Business Sector In Their Political Life..!! LET'S JUST SEE HOW LONG THAT AGREEMENT LASTS.. Fairly Sure It'll be short lived..!!
Nobody in the U.K. would stop NI reunifying with ROI . No one really gives a toss. And that goes for Scotland leaving. People in England just don’t seem that interested . Just let Scotland share NI with ROI . That would seem fair.
@@jasonallen9144 The ordinary people might not care, but the Tory party definitely do, and have always used the NI unionists as pawns in their games to keep power in Westminster "What a fool I was! I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power." - Sir Edward Carson, 1921
I see Channel 4 edited the MOST important part of when the guy with the ton of paperwork said, yes you need all that paperwork ONLY when bringing in goods into NI and THEN going in to the single market, this is because of BREXIT and the UK being a 3rd country. if just taking things in to NI and the goods are not going in to the single market there is a lot less paperwork, a ton less. but all the paperwork isn't due to the NI protocol, it's purely down to BREXIT and the UK being a 3rd country with different standards.
@@oakinwol it was implied was that it was just to move goods ONLY to NI. but that is not the case, it is to export goods in to the EU via NI. which is two very different things. very misleading.
It doesn't even matter if the UK has the same standards. Legally, the UK hasn't signed up to keep aligned with the EU so the UK is treated like any other 3rd country that has for example no veterinary agreement with the EU.
@@johng.1703 huh? There is no border between Ireland and NI. So they're supposed to take people's word that they're "just going to NI"? Isn't that the point? If there is no border between Ireland and NI then the extra scrutiny has to occur for everything coming into NI from Britain. If someone could just lie and then drive it right through NI into Ireland then the EU doesn't have a border. That's the whole point
Let’s face it; none of this will matter in a few years, as Ireland clearly looks like it’s on the path to being what it rightfully should be: one sovereign nation encompassing Northern Ireland (finally free from direct British meddling.)
The only problem in that being those pesky Scotch-Irish & the majority of Northern Ireland DONT WANT IT..!! And Rightfully part of The South my a$$.. There was legitimate reasons for Northern Ireland staying inside The UK after So-called Partition.. The Murderous actions of the Irish Government both Before & After Partition lays Testament To That..!!
Seems like you know less than nothing about Northern Ireland and are proud to demonstrate your ignorance for all to see. The people of NI have made it clear, repeatedly and forcefully that they will *never* accept any kind of rule from Dublin, so what you describe as "one sovereign nation encompassing Northern Ireland" necessitates the eradication of the Ulster nation and we will not let that happen. The old republican blood lust dream of a united ireland was never feasible and has already caused around 6,000 pointless deaths on the island of ireland. The fundamental problem with that stale old dream is it's pretence that the nation of Ulster does not exist. In the event of a Dublin take over, even with English consent, Ulster will fight for it's right to exist as an independent nation state.
@@garybarrett4881 highly unlikely, there will be a vote this decade and it will be the centre ground 20% that will decide. Ireland with backing of the EU will make them an offer they can't refuse. Remember that 20% are also Pro EU alliance voters too.
@@RazorMouth LOL.. Nonsense.. Those People who voted Alliance are about 80% Unionist.. They Voted for Alliance to get Northern Ireland moving.. THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THIS CONTINUOUS DEBATE.. SICK OF ORANGE & GREEN POLITICS is their usual line..!!
I love the drama with the 2000 sheets of blank paper. It's all lies of course. Depending on what you are bringing into the north you fill out a few sheets at most. The rest is if you are a 3rd country bringing stuff into the EU. 'Welcome to Brexit Sir!'
Well said Peter : If that's the documentation that is required to sell goods into Northern Ireland then that is what's required to sell goods anywhere. Britain is no longer in the Single Market. If UK exporters have to fill out that much documentation to export stuff then Northern Ireland will be the least of their worries. I live in Dublin and in my business I have imported goods from the Far East and I have never had to fill out more than one page.
As far as I got to know, that was the documentation for a truckload of lots of small item shipments. After Brexit exporting goods (even from GB to NI or to the rest of the world) is easier, when the complete load consists of just a few items in large quantities. You have to fill a few pages for each different product. Quantities are just a line on the forms to fill in.
Failed to mention aswell that nationalists actually do enjoy the agreement as it gives Northern Ireland a unique advantage where it can get goods from both the EU and UK markets. The DUP's major fear is that Northern Ireland will actually enjoy this more Ireland centric trade and will bolster the idea of nationalism being a good thing which in turn may help lead to a NI referendum in a few years time that will unite Ireland. It's funny tho since NI has become more and more nationalist as time as gone on dispite the fact that the NI government has been made to give the majority of the power to unionists.
Article 16 is 14 lines of text that allows for a month of meetings to discuss and resolve any problems and nothing else... not tearing up the Protocol. Like the rest of UK media on this issue they are talking a load of shite. Greetings from Northern Ireland, where we are having a better time than the rest of the UK due to our access to the EU. 🙃
I think most people in Britain only want what is the best for the northern Irish people,peace,prosperity and hopefully closer ties with Ireland. Good luck,and peace be with you.
I suspect most people in GB don't really care about NI is closer to the truth. The majority wanted out of the EU superstate and their constant power grab. If the EU had just remained a trading agreement perhaps it would have worked but more and more people across Europe are becoming fed up of it. Ireland as a major net beneficiary of course have a different view but that too will come home to roost if and when further nations join.
Theresa May didn't have a protocol but a "back stop" with continuous negotiation until a solution was found. The NI protocol is a "front " agreement as Boris wanted the UK to leave the single market directly. It is an international law and EU has come with proposal to simplify some parts but UK has not started to implement at all. Now Liz Trust boast of a new idea with two lanes...something that EU proposed in October...but that requires trust and data...something that UK so far has t implemented evenif they have need required to do so for a while....
Warning : There is a false information in this video. There are no empty supermarket shelves in the North Of Ireland. The North of Ireland is doing far better than anywhere in Britain. Also, If that's the documentation that is required to sell goods into Northern Ireland then that is what's required to sell goods anywhere. You are no longer in the Single Market. If UK exporters have to fill out that much documentation to export stuff then Northern Ireland will be the least of their worries. I live in Dublin and in my business I have imported goods from the Far East and I have never had to fill out more than one page. Are you sure you're not spoofing sir? Everybody in this debate about Ireland is fully aware that it could be sorted out in one fell swoop. Put it to a vote in the North of Ireland or in the South of Ireland or (more democratically) in all Ireland. You could ask the people of Britain too. "Do you want the Protocol?" The answer from everybody would be "Yes we do". Whenever Unionists are winning a vote they claim majority rule and whenever they are losing they claim that an issue needs "Cross Community Support". Meaning the support of both sides. That's nice-speak for Minority Rule. If the UK goes ahead and breaks its word and breaks international law it will cause a situation where the North Of Ireland has access to the EU market and Britain has access to the North Of Ireland's market. It is obvious that a backdoor to the EU market will be created. This is just not going to work. If I were talking to Geoffrey Donaldson or any of the other complaining Unionists I'd show them a map of Britain and Ireland. I'd underline two places as examples; Newcastle-On-Tyne in England and Letterkenny in Donegal, Republic of Ireland. Then I'd draw a line from one to the other, right across Northern Ireland. Then I'd ask "Ok where can we put a border that you'll be happy with? There has to be a border somewhere and in the sea is where it will cause least hardship". There would never be an answer because they want a border across Ireland and they thought Brexit would give them one. Ireland is a large web of interlinked communities. There is nowhere in Ireland that a border can be placed that won't cause serious hardship for the local communities.
Nonsense.. They've No Mandate For The Protocol In Any Way, Shape Or Form Off The Back Of That Election.. They Ruled That Mandate Out Themselves..!! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PRO PROTOCOL PARTIES DURING THE ELECTION DEBATES CHASTISED JEFFERY DONALDSON WHEN HE SAID THEY WOULD USE THIS ELECTION AS A MANDATE FOR THE PROTOCOL & A BORDER POLL.. THEY "ALL" SAID THIS STORMONT ELECTION WOULDN'T EFFECT THE PROTOCOL OR A BORDER POLL.. THEY SAID IT CAN'T BE DONE FROM STORMONT..!! FACT..!!
The GFA sets the rules for government in NI and since 1998 majority rule has been set aside in favour of rule by consensus. The protocol does not have the consensus required by the GFA and must fall. All parties in NI agree the protocol is not working.
@@asanulsterman1025 Great news so, the Assembly gets to vote to consent to the protocol in 2024 when you will be proven right, unless you're wrong or some bizarre reason the Assembly isn't in session at which point Westminster will consent on NI's behalf and you can continue to pretend this is against the majority's wishes.
As I've posted elsewhere: 1) Hard border in the Irish Sea. 2) Hard border in Ireland. 3) Rejoin the Single Market. 4) Release Northern Ireland to be independent/reunified, whichever they choose. Pick one.
Queen dies and British pound goes digital no money in atm in North of Ireland England Wales or Scotland what happens then. Cashless bill Gates project society Britain compliment and sign by Boris Johnson Brexit is the problem not the protocol
There's a common thread with all these problems,if you trace them back to their source,they all lead to the worst PM of all time,disgraced PM Johnson,the damage he has done to our once proud nation is immeasurable.
Can you please correct your recalling of the troubles! It was not about Nationalists fighting for a united Ireland. It was about civil rights and Catholics not being treated as second class people
Article 16 allows parties, in specific cases and following intense negotiations, to take unilateral measures that disrupt as little as possible the functioning of the protocol. The other party is then legally allowed to take counterbalancing unilateral measures. A complete stop of the required checks by UK government would be far from “least disruptive” and would legally allow the EU to take extreme countermeasures- such as designating Athens as the only port of entry for UK imports (yes, WTO allows this). Plus, of course, an international lawsuit that UK would be certain to lose. Why am I sure? Because UK government has been threatening to scrap NIP for two years but dares not do it because they know the consequences.
@@strategon28 You are right the Yanks won't go down that road. BoJo & Co will back down first and claim yet another great British victory. Remember how the last British invasion of Egypt went. You know the one that the Brits still laughingly call the Suez crisis. 😂😂😂
The best way to get them back into power, or out of it, is to just wait the 6 months, and within that time, if the cost of living crisis gets worse, then you know exactly who to blame, and they will be blamed when the common man goes hungry and cold.
@Channel 4News hmm bit of a bias there on art.16 and on the amount of paperwork . Art.16 does NOT suspend the protocol, look it up, it’s only a couple of sentences In Oktober last year the EU proposed a significant set of simplifications, which now seem to be part of Truss’s plan. Keep in mind that there is no hard border in Ireland now because the EU co-signed the agreement and Ireland as an EU member has the final say over what is happening.
" it shares a land border with the Republic of Ireland" because it is Ireland. It's not a land border, it is of Isle of Ireland. It's very simple. Give Ireland back to Ireland!!!
Only telling half the facts is misleading. The protocol allows NI to trade with EU without the barriers Britain faces. This is a benefit to NI businesses. By only telling one side of the story it makes the protocol look like an unnecessary barrier.
It's being framed as a domestic issue. Although it is, slightly, the outcomes will be decided internationally if only because UK can't suffer further disruption to trade at Dover. Aka it's even more vulnerable to sanctions than 60 years ago, during Suez. And it's antagonizing both the US, the one behind Suez outcome, *and* the EU, its largest trade partner. Until that vulnerability has been fixed it is more important to listen to international media than UK media on the matter. If Tories and DUP continue to moan about it or outright breach it, the simplest and proven solution would be to return to what worked last. Under threat of sanctions as necessary. 2020 transition period with entirety of UK following EU Single Market and Customs Union. That's the one that both respects GFA as it has done for 20+ years and Brexit referendum of *at minimum* leaving the *representative* institutions of the EU (Parliament, Council.) SM and CU are not technically strictly EU, as Norway (not in CU) and Turkey (not in SM) attest to.
but remaining within the customs is part if the EU free movement, subservience to EU unelected judicary was not part of the Brexit appeal? not arguing with you merely want clarification.
@@Areflection4 Slightly different. Customs are handled by the Customs Union. Freedom of movement, of the "four freedoms," is handled by the Single Market. As UK and Ireland already have the CTA, freedom of movement can still remain an open question. Though being subject (again) to the jurisdiction of the European Court likely will not be. That said, priorities. The Brexit referendum said nothing about European Courts, Single Market, or Customs Union. Just explicitly leaving the EU. That is, at minimum, just the representative functions of the bloc. UK could have just left the EU Council and Parliament but kept everything else, and that would still have been a Brexit. As it is Brexit hasn't been concretely defined yet. So we just have to have priorities. Which one would the UK, EU, *and* US prioritize more, the spirit of the GFA prohibiting even the *hint* of border checks between NI and RoI? Or the spirit of Brexit? Considering how both the EU and US have been doing the diplomatic equivalent of screaming at the Tories/DUP every time Article 16 and NIP have come up as topic......
All NI business & farming lobby groups, most political parties, and a clear majority of NI voters are in favour of the Protocol. The Protocol has protected NI businesses from many of the downsides of Brexit. There are no empty supermarket shelves, exports are booming, and food inflation is *lower* than in Britain. The EU made a comprehensive set of proposals last October to reduce paperwork and checks where possible - the British government simply ignored the proposals to keep the sham fight going. The Tories and DUP are simply lying about every single aspect of this manufactured "crisis" C4 News used to be much better than this
Let us not lose sight of the real issue here, it is not the EU or Brexit or a "protocol", it is Britain still trying and failing to govern parts of Ireland. The less Britain has to do with Ireland the better off Ireland is.
clancywiggam Not really. Most brits would happily leave Northern Ireland. Its the unionist majority there that have kept things as they are. Whether or not that majority still exists anymore is another question
The "Norway Protocol" is "Not in the EU, but act and go as if She were, because treaties with Her Scandinavian sister countries." The two Irelands are sister countries, with some difficult history, true; but that has eased up quite a lot in the last 20 years. The problem is the bigot cousin England, Norway does not have bigot cousins.
This video states there are empty shelves in NI and NI business would complain about the protocol - so far all i ever heard was NI having LESS supply issues than GB and NI business are rather fond of the advantages the protocol gives them compared to everybody else.
The protocol which puts a few custom officials in a few ports bothers Unionists more than the people of Northern Ireland on the poverty line suffering during this cost of living crisis. Unionism in a nutshell: Sod everyone else, it's all about us.
Thing is.... the protocol has actually protected people of NI from inflation by giving them the privileged position of being both in the UK and EU markets simultaneously.
The DUP didn’t hate the protocol initially, they actually voted for it in Westminster and their leader said it would have no implications whatsoever to the constitution integrity of the U.K. They then changed their minds and decided to use the protocol as a way to destroy the Good Friday Agreement and collapse Stormont so they can blackmail the U.K. government yet again. They are in a minority, NI voted massively against Brexit in the referendum and recently in the election we returned a majority of pro-protocol MLA’s. We support the protocol, it’s the best of both worlds, but the DUP and their friends in the UDA, UVF and Orange Order decided they’d make an issue out of the protocol and would rather NI lose its unique trading status than have the protocol.
Complete fantasy land boll*cks. How is the protocol destroying the GFA? Unionists aren't in a minority either in or out of Stormont. My voting card said UK REFERENDUM not, Northern Ireland referendum. Btw, if you want to talk about changing minds then look no further than Sinn Fein. The politically expedient party who, in the recent past, were against the EU and the single market but have now become the European Unionist Party and ally of the unelected EU commission. All because it furthered their agenda of Irish reunification but in reality would make us much worse off economically. That's something they need to square with their voters in Northern Ireland.
The commentary on this video is laughable. British journalism does have amazingly low standards, but this Channel 4 video fails even to make it to those gutter-scraping heights. The British Army was not brought in "to keep the two sides apart". The British Army was brought in to shore up the failing British colonial government at Stormont. Perhaps whomever wrote this 'copy' could try reading a history book, you know some library time in order to better educate themselves? Very poor. Very, very poor indeed Channel 4.
You say the DUP don’t like the protocol. But you don’t say they voted for it. Why no mention that the conversation gov pushed the deal without giving any time for scrutiny. Why not mention the NI can import goods from the EU and are in a better position than the rest of the UK when it comes to dealing with the EU? Why no mention that you can’t make unilateral changes to the protocol and article 16 doesn’t allow what they s gov thinks it does?
As someone who doesn’t have a vested interest in either Ulster unionism or Irish nationalism, and given that Ulster unionist identity seems to be primarily British and UIster Scots, I have often wondered why the London government doesn't look at building a new city called "Ulster" say in the north-west of England perhaps somewhere in the less populated Cumbria region. Hear me out on this. Ulster City could be a city state with its own nation status within the UK that is specially built for and inhabited by NI unionists and descendents of Ulster Scots who see themselves as wholly British. Ulster City could become a major city within the UK that brings its inhabitants geographically closer to the rest of GB by offering an actual land border with England with unfettered access to the GB market for goods and services. Ulster City would be a place firmly and solely rooted in Ulster Scots heritage that would remain forever part of the UK. The geographic territory that is Ireland could then become a separate all-island nation that has a straightforward sea and customs border with the UK. If anyone thinks this sounds like a crazy idea, the UK government and DUP have already been talking about building a sea bridge and rail tunnel between NI and GB that would cost hundreds of billions. Instead of spending the money on that, why not pump those hundreds of billions into building a brand new Ulster City state somewhere within the GB landmass? It would make unionists geographically and not just geopolitically British. Of course another alternative is that the UK government and unionist politicians say no to the idea of an Ulster City state within GB and go ahead with building a sea bridge and rail tunnel between GB and NI. Then in the fullness of time it might come to pass anyway that NI and Scotland might both decide to leave the UK but would end up enjoying all the benefits of having bridge and rail links that were paid for by the UK government while unionists still wish they could not be so cut off from GB.
Decent video. The only part missed is that, while NI Business' do have burdensome checks to do with good arriving in from Britain, the Protocol gives them uninhibited access to the EU single market. Pretty important benefit not mentioned above.
Very disappointing presentation, why did the UK and EU agree a NI protocol… because of Brexit. The protocol itself didn’t cause the problem, Brexit did. The protocol is there to respect the Good Friday agreement; and allow trade without hard borders. Both sides have to honour it. So much info left out of this report.
As a European i dont want the UK flooding our markets with goods that don't comply with our standards. This means that we need a border somewhere to control what is coming into the single market. Ireland hasn't voted to leave the EU, and the UK can't force Ireland to leave he single market, unless it takes a move from Putin's book and military invade Ireland. This leaves us with two options a border in between Irelands or a border on the Irish sea. From those options only one respects the GFA. If the Uk wants to break the GFA , the Uk can set a border in between Ireland's otherwise thighs must stay as they are now. The only thing that's unacceptable is a rogue country, with industrial regulations that don't match European regulations, which doesn't fall under the authority of the ECJ, selling goods and services on our single market! The options are clear it appears that only the Britons haven't understood!
Also wrong - Article 16 does NOT permit the UK to 'stop doing checks in the Irish sea', it simply begins a formal process of negotiation and specifies that while this is going on, the functioning of the Protocol must be maintained.
This issue is just a continuation of colonialism, with the English ruling class wanting to bend reality to favour their interests, a thousands years, and not much has changed
A good solution would be for the British Government to show the flexibility it has shown in many policy shifts (aka U-turns) and apply for membership of the EU.
DUP is hurting badly by its own mistake. It supported Hard Brexit (defeat May's proposal) assuming the border would be on the Land. Well US and EU are much stronger than UK. So the Border has to be in the Irish Sea. UK can make all the noise it want, it will not succeed over EU and US.
Unelected Frost and Johnson pretended to sell a brand new car signed and delivered to the EU which accepted the deal in good faith now wants to recall as a second car because it is defective from their perspective in pretence to defending the GFA with the DUP who are singing its praises which they are totally against
I’m kind of glad Brexit’s not over. It ended, or seemed to end, on a pretty depressing note, but it was still more interesting to watch than anything that’s been on this channel since.
@@michaelwilliams3232 the DUP wanted to keep the UK in the european single market. Meaning no borders between anything. Which would basically be like brexit, just without the brexit, so essentially: Britian follows EU rules, in which they have no say in. I wonder if the DUP considered the parallels of beeing overrulled by westminster.
You're right to state there is no land border on the island of Ireland cos it would require a massive security force to protect the Customs Posts. You neglected to mention that the GFA stated that there had to be 'Regulateary alignment' on trade between NI n ROI thus making said border redundant except in public health emergencies such as the Foot n Mouth outbreak in 2001. This worked swingingly well until Bx't which put the GFA in peril. BoJo sued for the hardest bxt n he got what he wanted making UK a third country, choosing to leave the Single Market. That's why a ton of paperwork has to be completed every time trade is done with the EU from Britain to EU n Btn to NI. NI however is not subject to this onerous p'work by courtesy of the P'col which only came about to protect the GFA. The huge irony here is the dopey Unionist pols backed BoJo n Bxt 100% while the majority of NI voters voted to remain in EU! BoJo LIED n continues to lie to the Unsts about the deal signed in 2019. The dopey ones jumped with joy when BoJo signed said deal but when they finally read it they saw red!!! A classic example here of pols getting what they wanted but Not what they got!! Jeffrey Donaldson MP leader of the DUP deserves the nickname Delboy cos he is truly delusional in putting his trust in BoJo time n time again n getting dumped by him again n again!! That nickname just might catch on!
Kind of wild to see the UK's role in the troubles framed as helping "restore order" like their soldiers didnt famously kill a bunch of unarmed civilians... like I'm an American and even I know about that 😅
You know, the DUP is just going to need to accept that they are a tiny minority party in Westminster. Unionists have caused problems for so many people for a century. Yes, so have nationalists. However, they can't be allowed to start a trade-war between the UK and the EU. Not when Europe and the UK have far greater issues to deal with out east.
It's a bit sad these days that journalists have to be vulgar in their language to keep up with the 'trend' . The language at the beginning of the video is not necessary, as much as I despise brexit.
4:00 "empty shelves" Nope, not for me at least, not a single day did I see empty shelves, bread, butter, milk, eggs all in stock... monster/redbull etc... all in stock. We still have access to single market goods unlike the UK. Unless you really care about getting your sausages from England (which no self respecting Ulsterman would do anyway)... Good presentation overall, but that's a faux pas.
Proud to live in the North of this Island. A island of division and sectarianism. A place where people like me, born between the lines, a becoming the majority.
Update because of reply to previous comment. All the references are from census data, to take the Irish Republican political vote as support for unification, is to swallow the gas-lighting. The NI census is where the actual support for unification can be found, and it shows that there are 29% of people in Northern Ireland that say they would vote for unification. In the last 20 years there has not been more than 29% of people in Northern Ireland or Ulster that aspired to the poverty and the desolation that unification would bring. That high came from a previous 19% in 2020 because of Brexit and the very surprising support of the Alliance Party of NI for unification, but that only achieved a very modest, very disappointing and temporary 10% increase for republicans. As previously mentioned there are three groups in Northern Ireland, republicans that want unification, the smallest but by far the loudest with an inflated 29% because of Brexit, up from a pre Brexit 19%. Unionists the largest and second loudest with 34%. Then the quiet, unobtrusive, unrepresented, deliberately overlooked and historically massively persecuted by both Dublin and Britain, Northern Irish with 31% and growing. Only one of these groups, Irish republicans, are self-destructive enough to want unification and follow Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal down the road to oblivion. If the Northern Irish, the king makers in Northern Ireland, eventually decide to leave the UK, the European option, the EU think tanks suggested should be followed, Northern Ireland should join the EU as an independent state, therefore avoiding the inevitable destruction and poverty unification would bring. Reverting back to its independence status, before the British invasion.
What products can they not buy in the supermarkets? There are so many suppliers that the supermarkets should buy local thus supporting the many local businesses contributing to the economy
Question from the outside (Australia) but has the protocol actually been implemented yet? I was under the impression that the previous N.I. government under the DUP had blocked the protocol from being implemented regarding the building of infrastructure, training of staff, performing checks.
Nope - UKG keeps still has to provide trusted goods list & access to UK customs IT for EU to audit (as per NIP). DUP tried stop customs checks but was over ruled by NI Court as illegal - they then refused to sit in Storemount & work for their electorate but still claiming salaries.
So much wrong with one sentence: 1) You spelt Éire wrong 2) Why use Irish when speaking English? 3) Éire is the 32 counties so by including the counties called NI, your being very insulting to your fellow Brits that live there. 4) No, never held a vote to leave.
She said " made the violence mercifully rare" , it didn't end the violence it reduced it. Its the same for all those wishing to create a narrative which isn't so. If Brexit was to blame for the troubles then ANY agreement signed up to WHICH the people themselves supported would have COMPLETELY ended the troubles. My father who was from Ireland visited a few years ago. He was told that he's OK being out in the day time visiting friends, but at night, he'll be taking a risk, so ANYONE who blabs about brexit being the reason for troubles in Ireland has to be talking from somewhere other than their mouths. The only resolve for NI is a United NI, but that is not what's wanted.
When Scotland will be independent and Ireland reunited, that will just leave Wales and England. So will they change the name of the UK to _Wangland?_ 🤔
Ah now you are ignoring significant parts like how NI have full access to European market and are getting their food more and more from the republic and the rest of Europe meaning yeah maybe m&s are struggling with GB suppliers but rest of getting good in easier than the rest of GB, and cheaper and they are benefiting from exporting with NI business being in support … your article is horrifically one side and should be taken down
A logical and practical solution right now would be to just revert to the original protocol; with no paperwork or checks necessary between either GB and NI or the UK and EU. But logic and practicality left UK politics a long time ago.
need to be a lot more specific your not pointing out all the facts e.g its not N Ireland that has empty shelves infact we havent had any problems have seen major problems in britain though remember those ques for petrol in England we didnt have any in Belfast or any where else no problems in our super markets , now I know 5 min isnt a long time but its enough to mislead people
It's hysterical that we in the EU accuse other nations of breaking their own agreements. The EU nations are constantly breaking their own treaties to this very day. Fishing, Fiscal, Environmental court cases in the last 12 months have been taken and found the nations in question are in breach of EU rules. Were these cases put forward by the EU commission, of course not. Even if you go back to the Maastricht treaty, every country signed up to it and few ever met it's regulations.
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That , "Prime minister you must be furious with whoever signed up to a deal this bad " bit 😁👍
Surely it would take an idiot to have signed up to that deal?
And watch how Boris smiles when he answers.. he is lying..
@@Buckets1000 I'm an Englishman, I never fully understood the sectarian thing or the anti English sentiment, I fully understand it now after studying it over the past couple of decades, we was always taught that the Republicans were the "bad guys", but I now have complete sympathy with the Republican cause, I despise the DUP nearly as much as Johnson and his lousy government for all the reasons you listed, the blame for all of the issues that grieves the DUP belongs to them, I hope they choke on the mess they have made and I hope the reunification of Ireland will be soon, I want this to be blamed on Johnson and I want his own party to vilify him for it for centuries. 👍👍👍
A few more than that.
Over 55% there voted remain.
I opine that would be 65% of people od all political hues would have a positive vote now.
Boris Johnson is irrelevant now.
This is not a matter of 'negotiation' - the protocol is part of an international treaty which has been signed by the UK government. There is room for manoeuvre on its implementation and the EU has in fact offered some sensible solutions, which the UK government has refused.
would you mind giving some examples for the EU sensible solutions?
@@kinngrimm last october, EU offered to ease the controls on some priority goods (medicine mostly) and to set up a "trusted exporter" fast track system, which UK refused because it wanted in essence that all and every export be exempt from checks, on a honor based system. There you are.
@@francoisbourriaud9646 well RNA Nerd spoke in plural " the EU has in fact offered some sensible solutions", so i assume there is more than that example.
So basicly Johnson is just trying to appeal(or more like putting sand in their eyes) to his base playing the tough guy while not getting any solutions done.
Maybe he should read Trumps book the art of the deal ^^ /sarcasm
@@francoisbourriaud9646 you'll be wasting your time there.
In Brexitland everything is the EUs fault.
How dare we choose to leave and expect the benefits.
On an upside.
It's pretty much made Scottish independence inevitable.
Poor BREXITEERs, Yoonyinists and Scottish Tories.
What a national suicide this has been.
Did not the EU suggest and agree to aline veterinary standards with the UK. There by eliminating most of the paperwork and Britain said no. Or johnsons torries said no, anyway.
It's not just that a border would be a target of violence. The Good Friday Agreement relies upon an open border to function. This is what Brexit was always going to lead to. Maybe more Brits should have thought about it before they voted to leave.
PRECISELY !!!!!!!!!
The GFA does not rely on an open border to function, that is a blatant lie, as any reading of the GFA will quickly prove. Why are you so keen to propagate this lie?
That's Just A Blatant Lie.. START TO FINISH..!!
@@solideogloria...7421 its actually correct, gfa states there can be no border infrastructure.
@@Roman500 No It Doesn't.. That's A Lie..!! FACT..!!
Boris boasted that the Brexit agreement was "oven ready" but it looks like it's turning out to be half baked.
Yea.. That'll be why the agreement and the Protocol were separate documents
Saying that it's half-baked is actually too kind.
How about you give Ireland back to the Irish that would solve everything
BASED
Except The People Of Northern Ireland DON'T WANT TO..!! Not That We Matter In The Conversation..!!
Why just not annex NI , The Empire has been doing that for years
@@solideogloria...7421 When was the border poll that backs up that statement?
@@solideogloria...7421 They will soon!🤣
The protocol is not a problem we in ni are doing better than mainland UK because of it and most parties support it , Boris and the dup are just using it to cover their failings . The gfa was saved twice from Boris and the dup never supported it . The protocol protected our freedoms and joint rights in ni with UK and ROI
BANG ON FELLA ;) :)
The checks are not a consequence of the deal, but a consequence of Brexit!
Also, we as well have/had major food and petrol shortages in Britain.
You're splitting hairs on that first point a bit. But yes, Brexit was always bound to create all kinds of unnecessary messes.
Don't forget the shortage of workers the UK is suffering too. Since apparently Brexit meant making the UK a 'hostile environment' for all foreign born workers (that wasn't on the ballot). I can see this causing the end of the UK as Ireland and Scotland will leave the UK in order to join the EU.
@Shaun Halliwell Do you think a world order where might makes right is a fair world order?
@@emmaoverington6432
I don't see Scotland leaving the union to join the EU any time soon.
All power to the Scots if that's the way the majority want to go but the Tory government is planning on massive divergence from EU standards which would mean some sort of customs border between England in order for Scotland to join the single market.
That would be economically and politically very difficult for all in the (dis)United Kingdom.
If we boot the Tories into the weeds, get some sane representation (preferably some form of proportional representation instead of the archaic First past the posts electoral system) and start to build a customs union with the EU, then things will be considerably easier for Scottish independence, or at least further devolution.
@@pauln6803 Scotland is already aligned with EU regs (as is the rest of the UK right now). We already have a situation with a border required within the UK (NI/ROI). So a border between Scotland and little England is no different, in fact easier as Scotland would be happy to distance themselves from Westminster at that point. As Westminster keep saying, it could be a hard border, an invisible border, an electronic border (whatever that means), Schrodinger's border. There are options. I feel there's far more chance of an already aligned Scotland leaving the UK to re-join the EU than for any party to beat the tories in a FPTP election, then change the electoral system to STV PP or whatever form of PP, then start to negotiate and build a customs union with the EU.
I wish the presenter had a better idea of the Civil Rights origins of Catholic unrest over systematic discrimination over jobs and housing achieved by blatent gerrymandering.
Not really you can watch a good BBC doc from the 70s on here about the UK stepping in to tr y and tackle what he's talking about ,they even warned it would lead to trouble before the violence properly kicked in and they had to send military to protect Catholic areas
I'm a Catholic (lapsed for 60 years, 72 years old, and lived through it. What bit is propoganda?
The piece was very poor and uninformed on multiple points tbh. C4 News used to be so much better than this half-baked nonsense
Triggering Art 16 does NOT allow the UK to simply stop making checks of any type! If you want to do a factual video - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
The existential threat to the union is that people in NI may increasingly want to unite with Ireland - should be an obvious thing to do. The NIP is not a problem as such actually. DUP and it´s supporters are not working on the interests of NI but on the interest of England.
Nailed it
The DUP only lost seats because they were seen as being too soft on the protocol.. These people who try to claim that "The Majority Of People In NI Support The Protocol Because The Majority Of Parties In Stormont Support The Protocol..!!" THIS IS A NONSENSE..!!
They've No Mandate For The Protocol In Any Way, Shape Or Form Off The Back Of That Election.. They Ruled That Mandate Out Themselves..!!
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PRO PROTOCOL PARTIES DURING THE ELECTION DEBATES CHASTISED JEFFERY DONALDSON WHEN HE SAID THEY WOULD USE THIS ELECTION AS A MANDATE FOR THE PROTOCOL & A BORDER POLL.. THEY "ALL" SAID THIS STORMONT ELECTION WOULDN'T EFFECT THE PROTOCOL OR A BORDER POLL.. THEY SAID IT CAN'T BE DONE FROM STORMONT..!! FACT..!!
NI is doing OK economically IN SPITE OF THE PROTOCOL.. Not because of it.. We'd be doing better without it.. And this is ONLY before the Grace Periods end.. When these Grace Periods end it will damage NI's economy even more.. Which is why the very people who were calling for the "Rigorous Implementation" of the protocol are now saying it needs fixed..
The ONLY People who support the protocol are people who either haven't a clue what they're talking about, and, or want to see the complete destruction of Northern Ireland as an entity.. The majority of these political representatives lording Businesses in Northern Ireland have never been in agreement with The NI Business Sector In Their Political Life..!! LET'S JUST SEE HOW LONG THAT AGREEMENT LASTS.. Fairly Sure It'll be short lived..!!
Nobody in the U.K. would stop NI reunifying with ROI . No one really gives a toss. And that goes for Scotland leaving. People in England just don’t seem that interested . Just let Scotland share NI with ROI . That would seem fair.
@@jasonallen9144 Seems Fair
@@jasonallen9144 The ordinary people might not care, but the Tory party definitely do, and have always used the NI unionists as pawns in their games to keep power in Westminster
"What a fool I was! I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power." - Sir Edward Carson, 1921
I see Channel 4 edited the MOST important part of when the guy with the ton of paperwork said, yes you need all that paperwork ONLY when bringing in goods into NI and THEN going in to the single market, this is because of BREXIT and the UK being a 3rd country. if just taking things in to NI and the goods are not going in to the single market there is a lot less paperwork, a ton less.
but all the paperwork isn't due to the NI protocol, it's purely down to BREXIT and the UK being a 3rd country with different standards.
I think that's all implied. What other reason would there be for that much paperwork...
@@oakinwol it was implied was that it was just to move goods ONLY to NI.
but that is not the case, it is to export goods in to the EU via NI. which is two very different things. very misleading.
It doesn't even matter if the UK has the same standards.
Legally, the UK hasn't signed up to keep aligned with the EU so the UK is treated like any other 3rd country that has for example no veterinary agreement with the EU.
@@johng.1703 huh? There is no border between Ireland and NI. So they're supposed to take people's word that they're "just going to NI"? Isn't that the point? If there is no border between Ireland and NI then the extra scrutiny has to occur for everything coming into NI from Britain. If someone could just lie and then drive it right through NI into Ireland then the EU doesn't have a border. That's the whole point
Brexiteers knew they were voting for this
Let’s face it; none of this will matter in a few years, as Ireland clearly looks like it’s on the path to being what it rightfully should be: one sovereign nation encompassing Northern Ireland (finally free from direct British meddling.)
The only problem in that being those pesky Scotch-Irish & the majority of Northern Ireland DONT WANT IT..!! And Rightfully part of The South my a$$.. There was legitimate reasons for Northern Ireland staying inside The UK after So-called Partition.. The Murderous actions of the Irish Government both Before & After Partition lays Testament To That..!!
That’s a decade away unfortunately
Seems like you know less than nothing about Northern Ireland and are proud to demonstrate your ignorance for all to see. The people of NI have made it clear, repeatedly and forcefully that they will *never* accept any kind of rule from Dublin, so what you describe as "one sovereign nation encompassing Northern Ireland" necessitates the eradication of the Ulster nation and we will not let that happen. The old republican blood lust dream of a united ireland was never feasible and has already caused around 6,000 pointless deaths on the island of ireland. The fundamental problem with that stale old dream is it's pretence that the nation of Ulster does not exist. In the event of a Dublin take over, even with English consent, Ulster will fight for it's right to exist as an independent nation state.
@@garybarrett4881 highly unlikely, there will be a vote this decade and it will be the centre ground 20% that will decide. Ireland with backing of the EU will make them an offer they can't refuse. Remember that 20% are also Pro EU alliance voters too.
@@RazorMouth LOL.. Nonsense.. Those People who voted Alliance are about 80% Unionist.. They Voted for Alliance to get Northern Ireland moving.. THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THIS CONTINUOUS DEBATE.. SICK OF ORANGE & GREEN POLITICS is their usual line..!!
I love the drama with the 2000 sheets of blank paper. It's all lies of course. Depending on what you are bringing into the north you fill out a few sheets at most. The rest is if you are a 3rd country bringing stuff into the EU. 'Welcome to Brexit Sir!'
Well said Peter :
If that's the documentation that is required to sell goods into Northern Ireland then that is what's required to sell goods anywhere.
Britain is no longer in the Single Market. If UK exporters have to fill out that much documentation to export stuff then Northern Ireland will be the least of their worries. I live in Dublin and in my business I have imported goods from the Far East and I have never had to fill out more than one page.
As far as I got to know, that was the documentation for a truckload of lots of small item shipments. After Brexit exporting goods (even from GB to NI or to the rest of the world) is easier, when the complete load consists of just a few items in large quantities. You have to fill a few pages for each different product. Quantities are just a line on the forms to fill in.
Failed to mention aswell that nationalists actually do enjoy the agreement as it gives Northern Ireland a unique advantage where it can get goods from both the EU and UK markets. The DUP's major fear is that Northern Ireland will actually enjoy this more Ireland centric trade and will bolster the idea of nationalism being a good thing which in turn may help lead to a NI referendum in a few years time that will unite Ireland.
It's funny tho since NI has become more and more nationalist as time as gone on dispite the fact that the NI government has been made to give the majority of the power to unionists.
True but you should have said that Northern Ireland can SELL INTO both UK and EU markets. Where it buys its stuff is far less important.
Article 16 is 14 lines of text that allows for a month of meetings to discuss and resolve any problems and nothing else... not tearing up the Protocol.
Like the rest of UK media on this issue they are talking a load of shite.
Greetings from Northern Ireland, where we are having a better time than the rest of the UK due to our access to the EU. 🙃
I think most people in Britain only want what is the best for the northern Irish people,peace,prosperity and hopefully closer ties with Ireland. Good luck,and peace be with you.
I suspect most people in GB don't really care about NI is closer to the truth. The majority wanted out of the EU superstate and their constant power grab. If the EU had just remained a trading agreement perhaps it would have worked but more and more people across Europe are becoming fed up of it. Ireland as a major net beneficiary of course have a different view but that too will come home to roost if and when further nations join.
@@AthelstanEngland found the englishman
@@TileBitan yep
Theresa May didn't have a protocol but a "back stop" with continuous negotiation until a solution was found. The NI protocol is a "front " agreement as Boris wanted the UK to leave the single market directly. It is an international law and EU has come with proposal to simplify some parts but UK has not started to implement at all. Now Liz Trust boast of a new idea with two lanes...something that EU proposed in October...but that requires trust and data...something that UK so far has t implemented evenif they have need required to do so for a while....
Brexit is never “over”- once it started the process goes on forever in form of new trade agreements or whatever
Warning : There is a false information in this video. There are no empty supermarket shelves in the North Of Ireland.
The North of Ireland is doing far better than anywhere in Britain.
Also, If that's the documentation that is required to sell goods into Northern Ireland then that is what's required to sell goods anywhere.
You are no longer in the Single Market. If UK exporters have to fill out that much documentation to export stuff then Northern Ireland will be the least of their worries. I live in Dublin and in my business I have imported goods from the Far East and I have never had to fill out more than one page. Are you sure you're not spoofing sir?
Everybody in this debate about Ireland is fully aware that it could be sorted out in one fell swoop.
Put it to a vote in the North of Ireland or in the South of Ireland or (more democratically) in all Ireland.
You could ask the people of Britain too.
"Do you want the Protocol?" The answer from everybody would be "Yes we do".
Whenever Unionists are winning a vote they claim majority rule and whenever they are losing they claim that an issue needs "Cross Community Support".
Meaning the support of both sides. That's nice-speak for Minority Rule.
If the UK goes ahead and breaks its word and breaks international law it will cause a situation where the North Of Ireland
has access to the EU market and Britain has access to the North Of Ireland's market.
It is obvious that a backdoor to the EU market will be created.
This is just not going to work.
If I were talking to Geoffrey Donaldson or any of the other complaining Unionists I'd show them a map of Britain and Ireland.
I'd underline two places as examples; Newcastle-On-Tyne in England and Letterkenny in Donegal, Republic of Ireland.
Then I'd draw a line from one to the other, right across Northern Ireland.
Then I'd ask "Ok where can we put a border that you'll be happy with? There has to be a border somewhere and in the sea is where it will cause least hardship".
There would never be an answer because they want a border across Ireland and they thought Brexit would give them one.
Ireland is a large web of interlinked communities.
There is nowhere in Ireland that a border can be placed that won't cause serious hardship for the local communities.
Absolutely...... also disgracefully ill informed reporting!
Respect the will of the people of Northern Ireland who just voted, and delivered 60% of MLAs who are against ripping up the protocol.
Nonsense.. They've No Mandate For The Protocol In Any Way, Shape Or Form Off The Back Of That Election.. They Ruled That Mandate Out Themselves..!!
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PRO PROTOCOL PARTIES DURING THE ELECTION DEBATES CHASTISED JEFFERY DONALDSON WHEN HE SAID THEY WOULD USE THIS ELECTION AS A MANDATE FOR THE PROTOCOL & A BORDER POLL.. THEY "ALL" SAID THIS STORMONT ELECTION WOULDN'T EFFECT THE PROTOCOL OR A BORDER POLL.. THEY SAID IT CAN'T BE DONE FROM STORMONT..!! FACT..!!
Someone needs to point it out to the DUP and the fact that they did not win so what their manifesto says is pure shite
The GFA sets the rules for government in NI and since 1998 majority rule has been set aside in favour of rule by consensus. The protocol does not have the consensus required by the GFA and must fall. All parties in NI agree the protocol is not working.
@@asanulsterman1025 Not all parties. People in NI want the protocol. The protocol is working. The protocol is working for the people.
@@asanulsterman1025 Great news so, the Assembly gets to vote to consent to the protocol in 2024 when you will be proven right, unless you're wrong or some bizarre reason the Assembly isn't in session at which point Westminster will consent on NI's behalf and you can continue to pretend this is against the majority's wishes.
As I've posted elsewhere:
1) Hard border in the Irish Sea.
2) Hard border in Ireland.
3) Rejoin the Single Market.
4) Release Northern Ireland to be independent/reunified, whichever they choose.
Pick one.
It's not even a hard border in the Irish sea, only certain goods are checked and that is IT
Queen dies and British pound goes digital no money in atm in North of Ireland England Wales or Scotland what happens then.
Cashless bill Gates project society Britain compliment and sign by Boris Johnson
Brexit is the problem not the protocol
Another elite project of poverty, davos WEF specialise in poverty
If that happen I will miss Elizabeth in my pocket I like having physical money in pocket
Say no to digital money
Release julian assange and sirhan sirhan
Break this agreement if you dare.
Based
There's a common thread with all these problems,if you trace them back to their source,they all lead to the worst PM of all time,disgraced PM Johnson,the damage he has done to our once proud nation is immeasurable.
Can you please correct your recalling of the troubles! It was not about Nationalists fighting for a united Ireland. It was about civil rights and Catholics not being treated as second class people
We’ve waited long for a new series but we’re finally back with Brexit S4!
Article 16 allows parties, in specific cases and following intense negotiations, to take unilateral measures that disrupt as little as possible the functioning of the protocol. The other party is then legally allowed to take counterbalancing unilateral measures.
A complete stop of the required checks by UK government would be far from “least disruptive” and would legally allow the EU to take extreme countermeasures- such as designating Athens as the only port of entry for UK imports (yes, WTO allows this). Plus, of course, an international lawsuit that UK would be certain to lose. Why am I sure? Because UK government has been threatening to scrap NIP for two years but dares not do it because they know the consequences.
Those pesky WTO rules will come back to bite the batshit crazy wing of the Tory party.
Exactly ... they know all along that it would be a "Godfather of all messes".
@@strategon28 And watch the Yanks, a guarantor of the GFA impose sanctions on BoJo & Co if they go down that road.
@@Patmofar He'll never go down that road. He is just croaking in the woods.
@@strategon28 You are right the Yanks won't go down that road. BoJo & Co will back down first and claim yet another great British victory. Remember how the last British invasion of Egypt went. You know the one that the Brits still laughingly call the Suez crisis. 😂😂😂
Remember it was the the same man who signed brexit that had loads of parties in the house of commons
The best way to get them back into power, or out of it, is to just wait the 6 months, and within that time, if the cost of living crisis gets worse, then you know exactly who to blame, and they will be blamed when the common man goes hungry and cold.
@Channel 4News hmm bit of a bias there on art.16 and on the amount of paperwork .
Art.16 does NOT suspend the protocol, look it up, it’s only a couple of sentences
In Oktober last year the EU proposed a significant set of simplifications, which now seem to be part of Truss’s plan.
Keep in mind that there is no hard border in Ireland now because the EU co-signed the agreement and Ireland as an EU member has the final say over what is happening.
" it shares a land border with the Republic of Ireland" because it is Ireland. It's not a land border, it is of Isle of Ireland. It's very simple. Give Ireland back to Ireland!!!
Only telling half the facts is misleading. The protocol allows NI to trade with EU without the barriers Britain faces. This is a benefit to NI businesses. By only telling one side of the story it makes the protocol look like an unnecessary barrier.
It's being framed as a domestic issue. Although it is, slightly, the outcomes will be decided internationally if only because UK can't suffer further disruption to trade at Dover. Aka it's even more vulnerable to sanctions than 60 years ago, during Suez. And it's antagonizing both the US, the one behind Suez outcome, *and* the EU, its largest trade partner.
Until that vulnerability has been fixed it is more important to listen to international media than UK media on the matter.
If Tories and DUP continue to moan about it or outright breach it, the simplest and proven solution would be to return to what worked last. Under threat of sanctions as necessary. 2020 transition period with entirety of UK following EU Single Market and Customs Union.
That's the one that both respects GFA as it has done for 20+ years and Brexit referendum of *at minimum* leaving the *representative* institutions of the EU (Parliament, Council.) SM and CU are not technically strictly EU, as Norway (not in CU) and Turkey (not in SM) attest to.
but remaining within the customs is part if the EU free movement, subservience to EU unelected judicary was not part of the Brexit appeal? not arguing with you merely want clarification.
@@Areflection4 Slightly different. Customs are handled by the Customs Union. Freedom of movement, of the "four freedoms," is handled by the Single Market.
As UK and Ireland already have the CTA, freedom of movement can still remain an open question.
Though being subject (again) to the jurisdiction of the European Court likely will not be.
That said, priorities. The Brexit referendum said nothing about European Courts, Single Market, or Customs Union. Just explicitly leaving the EU. That is, at minimum, just the representative functions of the bloc. UK could have just left the EU Council and Parliament but kept everything else, and that would still have been a Brexit. As it is Brexit hasn't been concretely defined yet.
So we just have to have priorities.
Which one would the UK, EU, *and* US prioritize more, the spirit of the GFA prohibiting even the *hint* of border checks between NI and RoI? Or the spirit of Brexit?
Considering how both the EU and US have been doing the diplomatic equivalent of screaming at the Tories/DUP every time Article 16 and NIP have come up as topic......
Theresa May's deal was actually the best option after all huh? She should still be the PM
All NI business & farming lobby groups, most political parties, and a clear majority of NI voters are in favour of the Protocol. The Protocol has protected NI businesses from many of the downsides of Brexit. There are no empty supermarket shelves, exports are booming, and food inflation is *lower* than in Britain. The EU made a comprehensive set of proposals last October to reduce paperwork and checks where possible - the British government simply ignored the proposals to keep the sham fight going. The Tories and DUP are simply lying about every single aspect of this manufactured "crisis"
C4 News used to be much better than this
I found the reporter's lack of any in-depth knowledge on the subject quite amazing.
Let us not lose sight of the real issue here, it is not the EU or Brexit or a "protocol", it is Britain still trying and failing to govern parts of Ireland. The less Britain has to do with Ireland the better off Ireland is.
clancywiggam Not really. Most brits would happily leave Northern Ireland. Its the unionist majority there that have kept things as they are. Whether or not that majority still exists anymore is another question
The history of problems in ireland started in the 1990s? That is really a very simple way to look at it.
The "Norway Protocol" is "Not in the EU, but act and go as if She were, because treaties with Her Scandinavian sister countries." The two Irelands are sister countries, with some difficult history, true; but that has eased up quite a lot in the last 20 years. The problem is the bigot cousin England, Norway does not have bigot cousins.
Excellent explanation, sharing this widely in the US
Yeah, No.
@George Washington woooah, why so aggressiv, dawg?
It seem that you realy wish destruction on the UK.
When you have to explain something to adults like they are 5 year olds, you know the situation is fucked up 🤣
Sadly that's standard British politics these days :-(
Never had a clue until now, many thanks!
I think the whole world is sick of England at this stage
Get U2 involved
I don’t think Bono has time he’s still looking for what ever it was he hasn’t found.
it's a problem on the UK side - on the EU side people moved on and couldn't care less
This video states there are empty shelves in NI and NI business would complain about the protocol - so far all i ever heard was NI having LESS supply issues than GB and NI business are rather fond of the advantages the protocol gives them compared to everybody else.
The protocol which puts a few custom officials in a few ports bothers Unionists more than the people of Northern Ireland on the poverty line suffering during this cost of living crisis.
Unionism in a nutshell: Sod everyone else, it's all about us.
Come on, that's the basis of Toryism as well!
Thing is.... the protocol has actually protected people of NI from inflation by giving them the privileged position of being both in the UK and EU markets simultaneously.
What would it take for Ireland to be Ireland? No border, a free Ireland! Give it up Britain!
The DUP didn’t hate the protocol initially, they actually voted for it in Westminster and their leader said it would have no implications whatsoever to the constitution integrity of the U.K. They then changed their minds and decided to use the protocol as a way to destroy the Good Friday Agreement and collapse Stormont so they can blackmail the U.K. government yet again. They are in a minority, NI voted massively against Brexit in the referendum and recently in the election we returned a majority of pro-protocol MLA’s. We support the protocol, it’s the best of both worlds, but the DUP and their friends in the UDA, UVF and Orange Order decided they’d make an issue out of the protocol and would rather NI lose its unique trading status than have the protocol.
Complete fantasy land boll*cks. How is the protocol destroying the GFA?
Unionists aren't in a minority either in or out of Stormont.
My voting card said UK REFERENDUM not, Northern Ireland referendum.
Btw, if you want to talk about changing minds then look no further than Sinn Fein. The politically expedient party who, in the recent past, were against the EU and the single market but have now become the European Unionist Party and ally of the unelected EU commission. All because it furthered their agenda of Irish reunification but in reality would make us much worse off economically. That's something they need to square with their voters in Northern Ireland.
The commentary on this video is laughable. British journalism does have amazingly low standards, but this Channel 4 video fails even to make it to those gutter-scraping heights. The British Army was not brought in "to keep the two sides apart". The British Army was brought in to shore up the failing British colonial government at Stormont. Perhaps whomever wrote this 'copy' could try reading a history book, you know some library time in order to better educate themselves? Very poor. Very, very poor indeed Channel 4.
You say the DUP don’t like the protocol. But you don’t say they voted for it.
Why no mention that the conversation gov pushed the deal without giving any time for scrutiny.
Why not mention the NI can import goods from the EU and are in a better position than the rest of the UK when it comes to dealing with the EU?
Why no mention that you can’t make unilateral changes to the protocol and article 16 doesn’t allow what they s gov thinks it does?
As someone who doesn’t have a vested interest in either Ulster unionism or Irish nationalism, and given that Ulster unionist identity seems to be primarily British and UIster Scots, I have often wondered why the London government doesn't look at building a new city called "Ulster" say in the north-west of England perhaps somewhere in the less populated Cumbria region. Hear me out on this. Ulster City could be a city state with its own nation status within the UK that is specially built for and inhabited by NI unionists and descendents of Ulster Scots who see themselves as wholly British. Ulster City could become a major city within the UK that brings its inhabitants geographically closer to the rest of GB by offering an actual land border with England with unfettered access to the GB market for goods and services. Ulster City would be a place firmly and solely rooted in Ulster Scots heritage that would remain forever part of the UK. The geographic territory that is Ireland could then become a separate all-island nation that has a straightforward sea and customs border with the UK.
If anyone thinks this sounds like a crazy idea, the UK government and DUP have already been talking about building a sea bridge and rail tunnel between NI and GB that would cost hundreds of billions. Instead of spending the money on that, why not pump those hundreds of billions into building a brand new Ulster City state somewhere within the GB landmass? It would make unionists geographically and not just geopolitically British.
Of course another alternative is that the UK government and unionist politicians say no to the idea of an Ulster City state within GB and go ahead with building a sea bridge and rail tunnel between GB and NI. Then in the fullness of time it might come to pass anyway that NI and Scotland might both decide to leave the UK but would end up enjoying all the benefits of having bridge and rail links that were paid for by the UK government while unionists still wish they could not be so cut off from GB.
Decent video. The only part missed is that, while NI Business' do have burdensome checks to do with good arriving in from Britain, the Protocol gives them uninhibited access to the EU single market. Pretty important benefit not mentioned above.
Very disappointing presentation, why did the UK and EU agree a NI protocol… because of Brexit. The protocol itself didn’t cause the problem, Brexit did. The protocol is there to respect the Good Friday agreement; and allow trade without hard borders. Both sides have to honour it.
So much info left out of this report.
As a European i dont want the UK flooding our markets with goods that don't comply with our standards. This means that we need a border somewhere to control what is coming into the single market. Ireland hasn't voted to leave the EU, and the UK can't force Ireland to leave he single market, unless it takes a move from Putin's book and military invade Ireland. This leaves us with two options a border in between Irelands or a border on the Irish sea. From those options only one respects the GFA. If the Uk wants to break the GFA , the Uk can set a border in between Ireland's otherwise thighs must stay as they are now. The only thing that's unacceptable is a rogue country, with industrial regulations that don't match European regulations, which doesn't fall under the authority of the ECJ, selling goods and services on our single market! The options are clear it appears that only the Britons haven't understood!
Also wrong - Article 16 does NOT permit the UK to 'stop doing checks in the Irish sea', it simply begins a formal process of negotiation and specifies that while this is going on, the functioning of the Protocol must be maintained.
Britain out of Ireland, simple as.
This issue is just a continuation of colonialism, with the English ruling class wanting to bend reality to favour their interests, a thousands years, and not much has changed
1 solution - 32 counties 🇮🇪
A good solution would be for the British Government to show the flexibility it has shown in many policy shifts (aka U-turns) and apply for membership of the EU.
BTW next you will be blaming us for your BREXIT MESS but remember to mention N. Ireland voted agianst it
Imagine being Britain and then having the gall to offer advice and guidance to Ukraine regarding territorial disputes!
DUP is hurting badly by its own mistake. It supported Hard Brexit (defeat May's proposal) assuming the border would be on the Land. Well US and EU are much stronger than UK. So the Border has to be in the Irish Sea. UK can make all the noise it want, it will not succeed over EU and US.
Unelected Frost and Johnson pretended to sell a brand new car signed and delivered to the EU which accepted the deal in good faith now wants to recall as a second car because it is defective from their perspective in pretence to defending the GFA with the DUP who are singing its praises which they are totally against
Did I hear "Get Brexit done!" quite some time ago? Was that the Conservative Party under Boris Johnson? LoL...
I’m kind of glad Brexit’s not over. It ended, or seemed to end, on a pretty depressing note, but it was still more interesting to watch than anything that’s been on this channel since.
But who signed the agreement, that is the person responsible for this mess.
Who supported the agreement, the DUP.
@@michaelwilliams3232 the DUP wanted to keep the UK in the european single market. Meaning no borders between anything. Which would basically be like brexit, just without the brexit, so essentially: Britian follows EU rules, in which they have no say in. I wonder if the DUP considered the parallels of beeing overrulled by westminster.
@@sarowieprobably very briefly considered but a billion beer vouchers might have altered their view. They voted with May and Johnson.
@Shiri Rast Boris "trump" jonhsson
Thank YOU !
You're right to state there is no land border on the island of Ireland cos it would require a massive security force to protect the Customs Posts. You neglected to mention that the GFA stated that there had to be 'Regulateary alignment' on trade between NI n ROI thus making said border redundant except in public health emergencies such as the Foot n Mouth outbreak in 2001. This worked swingingly well until Bx't which put the GFA in peril. BoJo sued for the hardest bxt n he got what he wanted making UK a third country, choosing to leave the Single Market. That's why a ton of paperwork has to be completed every time trade is done with the EU from Britain to EU n Btn to NI. NI however is not subject to this onerous p'work by courtesy of the P'col which only came about to protect the GFA. The huge irony here is the dopey Unionist pols backed BoJo n Bxt 100% while the majority of NI voters voted to remain in EU! BoJo LIED n continues to lie to the Unsts about the deal signed in 2019. The dopey ones jumped with joy when BoJo signed said deal but when they finally read it they saw red!!! A classic example here of pols getting what they wanted but Not what they got!! Jeffrey Donaldson MP leader of the DUP deserves the nickname Delboy cos he is truly delusional in putting his trust in BoJo time n time again n getting dumped by him again n again!! That nickname just might catch on!
Kind of wild to see the UK's role in the troubles framed as helping "restore order" like their soldiers didnt famously kill a bunch of unarmed civilians... like I'm an American and even I know about that 😅
You know, the DUP is just going to need to accept that they are a tiny minority party in Westminster. Unionists have caused problems for so many people for a century. Yes, so have nationalists. However, they can't be allowed to start a trade-war between the UK and the EU. Not when Europe and the UK have far greater issues to deal with out east.
Give it its full name - ‘Boris Johnson’s Northern Ireland Protocol’.
That's not what A16 does or how it works. Come on mate
Ahh, so it's basically the DUP holding this country back? Typical 🤣
It's a bit sad these days that journalists have to be vulgar in their language to keep up with the 'trend' . The language at the beginning of the video is not necessary, as much as I despise brexit.
4:00 "empty shelves"
Nope, not for me at least, not a single day did I see empty shelves, bread, butter, milk, eggs all in stock... monster/redbull etc... all in stock.
We still have access to single market goods unlike the UK. Unless you really care about getting your sausages from England (which no self respecting Ulsterman would do anyway)... Good presentation overall, but that's a faux pas.
But the trade deal is differnt to the protocol...
Who wanted to REJOIN Ireland.
me and over 500,000 nationalists who live here in the occupied 6 counties
Stick to the rules or we'll send our fishermen after you 🤣
Oh, that thing that people knew about years ago, knew it wouldn't be easy to solve, and.....well, isn't....
😂
Hello children...
Are you sitting comfortably?
Proud to live in the North of this Island. A island of division and sectarianism. A place where people like me, born between the lines, a becoming the majority.
Update because of reply to previous comment.
All the references are from census data, to take the Irish Republican political vote as support for unification, is to swallow the gas-lighting.
The NI census is where the actual support for unification can be found, and it shows that there are 29% of people in Northern Ireland that say they would vote for unification.
In the last 20 years there has not been more than 29% of people in Northern Ireland or Ulster that aspired to the poverty and the desolation that unification would bring. That high came from a previous 19% in 2020 because of Brexit and the very surprising support of the Alliance Party of NI for unification, but that only achieved a very modest, very disappointing and temporary 10% increase for republicans.
As previously mentioned there are three groups in Northern Ireland, republicans that want unification, the smallest but by far the loudest with an inflated 29% because of Brexit, up from a pre Brexit 19%.
Unionists the largest and second loudest with 34%.
Then the quiet, unobtrusive, unrepresented, deliberately overlooked and historically massively persecuted by both Dublin and Britain, Northern Irish with 31% and growing.
Only one of these groups, Irish republicans, are self-destructive enough to want unification and follow Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal down the road to oblivion.
If the Northern Irish, the king makers in Northern Ireland, eventually decide to leave the UK, the European option, the EU think tanks suggested should be followed, Northern Ireland should join the EU as an independent state, therefore avoiding the inevitable destruction and poverty unification would bring.
Reverting back to its independence status, before the British invasion.
Its also worth pointing out that N.I. Overwhelmingly rejected brexit.
Why did the govt sign this. They are behaving like they werent there negotiating
What products can they not buy in the supermarkets? There are so many suppliers that the supermarkets should buy local thus supporting the many local businesses contributing to the economy
The original problem was there existed inside the u.k.border a de facto apartheid statelet.
Brilliant thanks!
Question from the outside (Australia) but has the protocol actually been implemented yet? I was under the impression that the previous N.I. government under the DUP had blocked the protocol from being implemented regarding the building of infrastructure, training of staff, performing checks.
Nope - UKG keeps still has to provide trusted goods list & access to UK customs IT for EU to audit (as per NIP).
DUP tried stop customs checks but was over ruled by NI Court as illegal - they then refused to sit in Storemount & work for their electorate but still claiming salaries.
Didn't Eire attempt to exit the EU some years ago..?
No.
So much wrong with one sentence:
1) You spelt Éire wrong
2) Why use Irish when speaking English?
3) Éire is the 32 counties so by including the counties called NI, your being very insulting to your fellow Brits that live there.
4) No, never held a vote to leave.
She said " made the violence mercifully rare" , it didn't end the violence it reduced it. Its the same for all those wishing to create a narrative which isn't so. If Brexit was to blame for the troubles then ANY agreement signed up to WHICH the people themselves supported would have COMPLETELY ended the troubles. My father who was from Ireland visited a few years ago. He was told that he's OK being out in the day time visiting friends, but at night, he'll be taking a risk, so ANYONE who blabs about brexit being the reason for troubles in Ireland has to be talking from somewhere other than their mouths. The only resolve for NI is a United NI, but that is not what's wanted.
When Scotland will be independent and Ireland reunited, that will just leave Wales and England.
So will they change the name of the UK to _Wangland?_ 🤔
Lol
Ah now you are ignoring significant parts like how NI have full access to European market and are getting their food more and more from the republic and the rest of Europe meaning yeah maybe m&s are struggling with GB suppliers but rest of getting good in easier than the rest of GB, and cheaper and they are benefiting from exporting with NI business being in support … your article is horrifically one side and should be taken down
No, that's not what article 16 means.
A logical and practical solution right now would be to just revert to the original protocol; with no paperwork or checks necessary between either GB and NI or the UK and EU. But logic and practicality left UK politics a long time ago.
Solution… reunification of Ireland. Simples 💡
Reverse Brexit 🤮
need to be a lot more specific your not pointing out all the facts e.g its not N Ireland that has empty shelves infact we havent had any problems have seen major problems in britain though remember those ques for petrol in England we didnt have any in Belfast or any where else no problems in our super markets , now I know 5 min isnt a long time but its enough to mislead people
It's hysterical that we in the EU accuse other nations of breaking their own agreements. The EU nations are constantly breaking their own treaties to this very day. Fishing, Fiscal, Environmental court cases in the last 12 months have been taken and found the nations in question are in breach of EU rules. Were these cases put forward by the EU commission, of course not. Even if you go back to the Maastricht treaty, every country signed up to it and few ever met it's regulations.
Incorrect. It was between Republicans and the British, also between Republicans and Loyalists
Independent Scotland and United Ireland simple as that.
That pile of paper should be "real time IT", but it isn't because the UK government want it to fail, and they too busy organising Wine Friday.
DUP only signed up to Brexit as Bojo promised them he would tear up the deal as soon as EU agreed to it.