The Shock of Freedom and the Reinvention of Racism | OLD PARKLAND CONFERENCE

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  • Nearly six decades after the end of Jim Crow, are black Americans still oppressed? Does a persistent focus on racism as the sole cause of inequality help or harm the advancement of black Americans? Ian Rowe and Shelby Steele discussed these questions and more. Steele argued that racism is not the primary challenge facing black people in this country today, but rather the question of how to steward freedom. He argued that denial is often the first response to freedom, and that social reform efforts in recent decades have been more effective in giving white people relief from the charge of racism than they have in encouraging the development of black people.
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  • @bobbyross1816
    @bobbyross1816 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “We black people begin to use race to hide from the challenges of freedom.” One of the greatest quotes I’ve ever heard another human being. So true. Thank you Mr. Steele for speaking the truth 🙏🏽

    • @lesliefish4753
      @lesliefish4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      See the poem, "The Slave" by Richard Untermyer.

    • @jewulo
      @jewulo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is not true. There are very few whites or aryans that believe that a black person is their equal. Racism has morphed from loud and explicit to silent and covert. I used to think like you but I had to learn the hard way that talking about race from the ivory tower of academia is just fanciful cognitive mastubation.

  • @shipjumper6068
    @shipjumper6068 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a great interview that I’ll be sharing. Too many of our black people have a victim mindset, and it holds us back more than people are willing to admit. Black people have so much to offer, but we will never know unless we strive to reach our full potential.

    • @Michael-sw4yq
      @Michael-sw4yq ปีที่แล้ว

      ☠️ secret society, do you think their good ?
      We make no excuses, we R great, but racism is real.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Michael-sw4yq - Sin is real. Every person is accountable to themselves, to the world, to God. Life is also unfair. "The rain falls on the just and unjust." Blaming "racism" on one's sin absolves one of accountability in one's choices towards evil. Families and communities must teach this to their youth, to their children.

  • @goodtalker
    @goodtalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I worked in Corrections in California for 25 years. Nearly 100 percent of my students were either black or Hispanic. I never met one who thought of himself as a victim. On the contrary, the idea that somewhere, somehow, some pesky white person, or persons, was responsible for their incarceration would be considered undignified. In fact, if I heard it once, I heard a variant of the following hundreds of times: “My brother is an attorney and my sisters work for IBM. I put myself in this place. Growing up I was a screw up and wouldn’t listen to my parents.” Thanks for reading.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing your experience.
      There are a lot of lies put out by Academia and the Media that are disastrous for anyone, of any skin color, who won't take personal responsibility for their sins.
      At least those men in prison had the spine to own the mess they created for themselves. It takes some humility and healthy self-respect to do that. More than the masses who unwittingly support White Supremacy.

  • @machtnichtsseimann
    @machtnichtsseimann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The closing here is quite moving.
    Thank you so much for your work, Mr. Steele.
    You've helped make the world a better place, for sure.

  • @KamilW257
    @KamilW257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welp! Off to Amazon I go looking for this book 📕

  • @colinreese
    @colinreese ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The utensils are louder than guns.

    • @KamilW257
      @KamilW257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop😂 ! I agree. Every time I’m at a banquet I think, are they intentionally making this noise 🧐 sheesh! Stop moving 😂

  • @thejohnbeck
    @thejohnbeck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, it's Bob Woodson! (at the end)

  • @rabidfarmer9765
    @rabidfarmer9765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shelby has nailed the hammer on this one. No truer words to describe the current standings of blacks.

  • @garysweeten5196
    @garysweeten5196 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant people debating each other.

  • @dnarna8994
    @dnarna8994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy said what many of us have been heralding for years - i.e. that instead of blaming the white man, folks need to take responsibility for their own success.

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a principle that every human should embrace: we must own our decisions towards success or failure.

  • @billnorris8457
    @billnorris8457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Correctly venerated Ph.D. Steele is speaking to the Judeo-Christain ethic or morality of the American Founding. Even Mason understood his enslavement of people was a mortal sin.
    that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain-that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom-and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
    Yes King Family led Civil Rights was yet another new birth of Freedom. Once again calling to our Founding.
    Which is why the 1619 deception is necessary.
    Great question at 38m.
    Honorable Woodson at 48m. :)
    Many things can be true in the LIberty Republic. I tend towards the explanation of Phd Sowell that the fine high yellow-black people of the North were of a much higher economic and educational class. They certainly did not have a 'white' culture. But fit in very well as it was still a strong Judeo-Christian culture. The way of doing things might be different. But the civic ethic was the same.
    Honorable Woodson's claim about the Black Power Movement is problematic. Was the gain in overcoming internal barriers worth the cost of material nihilists of various sorts injecting revolutionary struggle or victimology in the place of the Judeo-Christian ethic and civic? So that they could use the Americans stuck in political ghettos as cannon fodder of one sort or another. Predictively, young men are inculcated with rebellion for another's political purposes.
    But empathy doesn't correct the now generational suffering. Sadly inculcated ghetto rat culture is re-enforced by exploitive rebellion-based pop culture. Which has to become ever more extreme to keep that edge young men will seek. Young white boys too. Nothing new in the allure of a rebel without a cause.
    So I have to disagree with honorable Steele to a degree. Yes, the average middle-class black American has achieved agency or freedom. But this is not true of Americans caught in the political ghettos. Which is why this assembly of traditional Americans is a necessary reality. Also, Honorable Woodson's effort to lift known by the community indigenous leaders is necessary. But they will indeed require help from this assembly. Hopefully, the wider America which embraces the Judeo-Christain ethic. Wizard Glenn is correct in this.
    But we are back to PhD Sowell analysis. Freedom will only be achieved by something very much like the Northern Black culture before the great migration. The culture that made poor old tattered Harlem Golden. Which is a sort of fine yellow.
    Plus with due respect to the men who are as black as I am pale? Halfies do tend to be more physically attractive. True across all cultures I am aware of.
    At least you guys have big brains. Me? Not fair at all!

  • @machtnichtsseimann
    @machtnichtsseimann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freedom does require responsibility.
    Will one accept their government or church thinking for them?
    Will one decide that they will not take responsibility for their poor decisions and actions?
    To the degree that one doesn't, then one is not free.
    Even when one's country affords them abundant space to be free.

  • @noshirm6285
    @noshirm6285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To listen to the erudite Shelby Steele is eye-opening and enlightening. To have to listen to the clattering of cutlery at the same time is odious. >:-/

    • @KamilW257
      @KamilW257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My shul’s Passover banquet is twice as loud😂🍽😂

    • @laurence2421
      @laurence2421 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao I just now noticed it as I was listening to the video and reading comments. I didn’t notice the sound because I’m watching this….while eating. I’m making the same sounds 😂😅

    • @noshirm6285
      @noshirm6285 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurence2421 😄

  • @Catch22699
    @Catch22699 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s why Tom Sowell quotes Shelby.

  • @huck46
    @huck46 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shelby is a brilliant mind. And bold as a lion!

  • @rabidfarmer9765
    @rabidfarmer9765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He said the Republican party cannot get angry blacks - that is funny! But Democrats get them all day long - LOL!

  • @louverture905
    @louverture905 ปีที่แล้ว

    the only problem with this discussion is that Shelby Steele is generalizing, just like those on the left do. He is avoiding class divisions, and disparities in religion, education among "black people." Many African Americans agree with him. Just as many don't. He should focus on further steering those who are friendly to his point of view. I do like Woodson's comments, however.

    • @Michael-sw4yq
      @Michael-sw4yq ปีที่แล้ว

      I.C this as well, we must have guts.

  • @lesliefish4753
    @lesliefish4753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As Kipling put it: "Only thyself afflicteth thee."

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams7440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as I look at the speaker I see his is black but to me I don't see a victim or a slave I wait to hear what he says B4 I make a judgement. If sound like Sharpton I will not listen. If you speak common sense I will listen

  • @mamabear71234
    @mamabear71234 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the victim mindset of black people is what oppresses them. it's that narcissistic blaming and victim mentality.

    • @Bambi7ish
      @Bambi7ish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were victims, for over 400 years.

  • @jonathann.foster1809
    @jonathann.foster1809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I Don’t Have A Clue What It Means’: Clarence Thomas Asks Lawyer To Define “Diversity”" Black’s Law Dictionary Ninth Edition Bryan A. Garner Editor In Chief page 546; “it did give rise to the question of ”diversity” 1. DIVERSITY OF CITIZENSHIP, moreover, United States’ Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas appointed by a Republican served since 1991, age 74 years born June 23, 1948, he did succeed the fmr. U. S. Supreme Justice Thurgood Marshall (a fmr. Civil Rights Lawyer, it did cite work to be done Brown vs. Brd. of Education) appointed by a Democrat served 1967 to 1991 died at the age of 84, again diversity, Justice Thomas is married to Virginia Thomas refer to threshold DOMA -1996, again diversity, DNA identification (1987) A method of scientific identity based on a person’s unique genetic makeup; specific., the comparison of a person’s Deoxyribonucleic acid), again diversity, source ‘Black’s Law Dictionary’ page 551, liken a Biological Man’s DNA and a Biological Woman’s DNA, a current “improved technology”(2021) Miniscule Material Evidence, again diversity “by clarification” meaning it's “defined". And, Fed. Judge Robert L. Hinkle, N. D. FL, ruling ((Aug 2014, “chaos”)(Weapons of Mass Destruction - WMD)), again diversity, revisit case pending (“wrote citing possible fraud” (2020)) and a "Common Sense" quote from the fmr U. S. Supr. Ct. Justice and Chief Prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert H. Jackson (The nominal Profiling of Probable Cause for "diversity" admissions.