I think it only works because the thread pitch is fairly coarse. Because of the angle, I would expect the spacing to be slightly off from the measured lines... but hey... whatever works...
@@timseguine2 the angles are probably good enough on most common threads. line_perpendicular_spacing = along_shaft_spacing * sin(angle). At 10 degrees, that works out to almost exactly what Matthias measured, 0.203*cos(10deg)=0.2
@@chaklee435 Yeah I had trouble finding the correct angle, but before my comment the napkin math seemed to suggest it should only be a few thou at most.
Could they break the laws of physics and the nature of reality itself? You leave for five minutes and come back to your kids tearing a rift in the fabric of spacetime...
@@jewishmafia9801 Yeah I gave them a time out for that one. But their future selves showed up and took them on a yearlong adventure through multiple galaxies, returning them right before the 5 minute timeout expired.
My Pop showed me how to cut wooden threads using the corner of the grinding wheel and just turning the handle by hand. Takes about four minutes and works fine. Great video thumbs up.
Perfect timing! Just yesterday evening my neighbors asked me to fix one of their kid's toys. This morning as I am grabbing some tools to figure out the problem on my own a refresh on my YT reveals a newly posted solution. Worked like a charm, fixed it in a matter of 30 min. Thanks a bunch!
Replacing the handle with oak reminds me of a story I heard in a group home. A staff member told me that the kids liked to punch holes in the walls, and they punched a hole straight through the hollow-core door to the staff room. He replaced that door with a solid oak door, and a kid promptly broke his fist on it. That apparently took care of the hole-punching problem.
Similar story at work. This idiot would go into the bathroom and punch a hole in the wall. They'd repair it and he'd do it again. The solution worked, but was fairly graphic as you can imagine. A board with a few nails protruding through the other side and one punch later revealed who the idiot was doing this. Once he went to the hospital he was able to return for his exit interview.
@@WoodUCreate I would imagine his first stop after the hospital was the police station where he filed a report about the extremely illegal boobytrap that severely injured him.
That was pretty neat. I liked the thread layout. I have 2 threads in a lot of my tools. College ruled and wide ruled. I've never had to match threads to an existing piece. Seeing how you did it was helpful. Cheers hombre.
Years ago I went on a Florida vacation with my wife’s family and my wives son from a previous marriage. My stepson would spend hours outside trying to catch the lizards that are everywhere down there, he finally asked his grandfather if he would help. He told the boy “They’re easy to catch, you just sprinkle some salt on their tails and grab them”. Awhile later I looked outside and there’s this little eight year old boy outside with a salt slacker trying to sneak up on a lizard! Your story reminded me of that moment 32 years ago, thanks for the chuckle.
For Matt a Broomhandle is a work of art. When I was a kid like 60 years ago my dad was a machinist . When the broom handle broke I just take the corner of the bench grinder and put threads on it. Good enough for a broom or a paint roller.
That works too, if the wheel is coarse enough, I guess. Hadn't thought of using that. But then again, the file gives more control. Didn't take that long.
@@matthiaswandel I recognize that "good enough" is tough for you. The corner of the grinder is good enough. May take a couple of tries for the first one.
It was neat to see how you approached and solved the problem. I'm certain that I could have met with failure after spending much more time on it. Thank you for sharing!
I was wondering what nifty thread cutting tool you were going to use to make those threads. It never occurred to me that a file could be used to cut threads. Slick demonstration.
Especially with Mathias background and wisdom with gears and machine making. But that just goes to show that sometimes the rough-it-out method is fast and works well.
TH-cam stopped recommending me your videos, for over 2 months now, even though I'm subscribed. I watch every video of yours for years and youtube does this.
Hey Matthias, in case you didn't think about it... you may want to saturate the new threads with thin CA glue. it will likely extend the life of the handle a bit...
Not sure that'll work now that the beeswax is on it. Maybe if he heated the end for long enough, it would dry out enough for the CA glue to penetrate again.
thank you so much for this video I have an old horse hair broom from my grandfather and the threads have worn out. I will use this technique to fix the threads.
I was curious of what you would do! I had a broomstick failed thread a while back and decided to cut a new thread, using a router. After many failed attempts, I bought a new broomstick 🙂
Love your videos Matthias but this is the one time I would just go to a shop and buy another broom. But a great demonstration on how to make threads manualy.
Sooo, did I just miss the reason why you used the conduit as a diameter reference? Is it to have enough excess to carve the threads and their side ouf of it to be more snug?
I thought there was going to be more to it too, but apparently it was just to get the initial width to match the roundover from the router. I think he just didn't mention it because he didn't have an exact matching bit, and changed gears mentally to get an approximate match.
I was about to say that this repair would be much simpler using a 3D printer. But with all that equiptment in place and your expertise and ingenuity, 3D printing would have been a waste of time!
Absolutely genius. If i wasnt going to just buy a new brush I would have just made the diameter slightly smaller than the thread on the bottom section for a push fit and screwed up through from the bottom of the bristles
Smart but if trying to turn the brush, within a few uses, it would rotate so two screws would make sense with a small pilot hole so as to not split the hard wood.
I made a broom handle to fit a shop broom about 5 years ago the same way. I started with a discarded broom, mop or shovel handle that had the wrong threads. I use it almost every day. Doing it by hand this way I was able to make it fit very tightly so that the broom doesn't rotate around the handle when using.
I thought maybe you'd take the threads off of the old broom, glue it to the new handle, screw it into the brush and clamp it down, then unscrew it while cutting the new threads on the table saw. Of course, when the thread runs out it can become a bit of a problem. Dangerous thoughts aside, nice method of laying the threads out with the paper.
That was brilliant! I have to remember that next time I want to cut some course threads. Now I just need to know how to cut the inside threads of the receiver.
I love these short, simple and relaxing videos. Sure you could have bought a broom handle at the dollar store - but this is more fun! and isn't that the point?
I used to know an old guy that had a jig for doing this with a v groove bit on his router table. It would clamp the handle kinda like a lathe and rotate it while feeding it the proper amount. Had to eyeball your depth though. It collected a lot of dust but it was neat the few time I saw it get used.
As another "old guy" with a bunch of metal and wood lathes, yes a router jig makes sense. Ideally just find the closest inch or metri thread on a thread cutting metal lathe and hope you can find the pitch (about 5 tpi. ? )
Appears you're having fun! 😅 My self i reglue the handle and roll some wire around the broken "leg" ends up looking like a spring, strong enough to last the life of the broom, unless some bruja flights off with it! i would also let the bees do the waxing...
Fantastic job!! I've ALWAYS wondered how they used to make wooden threads (any threads) before machinery? One of those skills that's (MOSTLY) lost I'd imagine!? I REALLY want to make a DIY wood working vice from wood, with a Large-format wooden Screw thread through the middle but I've no idea how it's done accurately.. You did a great job on this! 👍😎🏴🇬🇧
The idea of doing threads by hands is really cool! But, I think i'ma lazy guy. My idea: Just drill the hole a bit bigger, insert the broomstick and put a pin lock to hold it in place. Probably save two hours. But theads are really nice
Bit disappointed you didn't make thread-cutting jig but still solid result. ;-) My initial thought would be to put couple of dowels across the crack in the old broom handle to make it stronger but nothing beats solid piece I suppose.
The way you did .200 line spacing and used that to layout threads was genius.
I think it only works because the thread pitch is fairly coarse. Because of the angle, I would expect the spacing to be slightly off from the measured lines... but hey... whatever works...
Before that, I had never seen a table saw being used as a drafting tool.
I measured it at .2" perpendicular to the threads, so the .2 spacing for the lines works out. But it means maybe it wasn't 5 tpi after all
@@timseguine2 the angles are probably good enough on most common threads. line_perpendicular_spacing = along_shaft_spacing * sin(angle). At 10 degrees, that works out to almost exactly what Matthias measured, 0.203*cos(10deg)=0.2
@@chaklee435 Yeah I had trouble finding the correct angle, but before my comment the napkin math seemed to suggest it should only be a few thou at most.
I was expecting some amazing machine/idea to cut the threads, didn't even think about hand filing it! Nice work.
My mind, also wondered what type of jig he made. Done by hand, duh. Lol.
I still want to see the machine though. hahaha
@@djmips I think, Pask Makes built jig for threading wood couple of years ago
I wish I could speed up my filing like Matthias does. Takes me forever! 😆
You just need to film yourself doing it :)
Given enough time and lack of supervision, I'm convinced my children could break just about anything.
As a child I was repeatedly told that “You could break a steel ball!”
Dont ever get them play mobil. Everything will be dissembled and lost
Could they break the laws of physics and the nature of reality itself? You leave for five minutes and come back to your kids tearing a rift in the fabric of spacetime...
@@jewishmafia9801 Yeah I gave them a time out for that one. But their future selves showed up and took them on a yearlong adventure through multiple galaxies, returning them right before the 5 minute timeout expired.
@@ebudrow1 And thus your "ballbreaker" nickname was coined.
My Pop showed me how to cut wooden threads using the corner of the grinding wheel and just turning the handle by hand. Takes about four minutes and works fine. Great video thumbs up.
Hadn't thought about using the grinder. Though it does tend to burn wood
Man just made a video about making a new broom handle. And i watched every second lol.
here for the problem solving
miss his wood show
Watched it twice
Perfect timing! Just yesterday evening my neighbors asked me to fix one of their kid's toys. This morning as I am grabbing some tools to figure out the problem on my own a refresh on my YT reveals a newly posted solution. Worked like a charm, fixed it in a matter of 30 min. Thanks a bunch!
Replacing the handle with oak reminds me of a story I heard in a group home. A staff member told me that the kids liked to punch holes in the walls, and they punched a hole straight through the hollow-core door to the staff room. He replaced that door with a solid oak door, and a kid promptly broke his fist on it. That apparently took care of the hole-punching problem.
Similar story at work. This idiot would go into the bathroom and punch a hole in the wall. They'd repair it and he'd do it again. The solution worked, but was fairly graphic as you can imagine. A board with a few nails protruding through the other side and one punch later revealed who the idiot was doing this. Once he went to the hospital he was able to return for his exit interview.
@@WoodUCreate now that is brutal! 😂
Took care of the hole punching problem, and immediately replaced it with a larger, more complex problem xD
@@WoodUCreate I would imagine his first stop after the hospital was the police station where he filed a report about the extremely illegal boobytrap that severely injured him.
@@JasperJanssen difficult to prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt. Could just say that the board and nails were there for other legitimate purposes.
I am as impressed by this simple act as anything you have done. This must have been how threads were originally cut in the beginning.
That was pretty neat. I liked the thread layout. I have 2 threads in a lot of my tools. College ruled and wide ruled. I've never had to match threads to an existing piece. Seeing how you did it was helpful. Cheers hombre.
Years ago my uncle told me I could break an anvil with a rubber mallet. I enjoy seeing how much time you put in to making life fun for your kids.
Years ago I went on a Florida vacation with my wife’s family and my wives son from a previous marriage. My stepson would spend hours outside trying to catch the lizards that are everywhere down there, he finally asked his grandfather if he would help. He told the boy “They’re easy to catch, you just sprinkle some salt on their tails and grab them”. Awhile later I looked outside and there’s this little eight year old boy outside with a salt slacker trying to sneak up on a lizard! Your story reminded me of that moment 32 years ago, thanks for the chuckle.
i never could have guessed how you'd cut the threads
that's really clever
I'll be watching this again! That layout technique is brilliant.
For Matt a Broomhandle is a work of art. When I was a kid like 60 years ago my dad was a machinist . When the broom handle broke I just take the corner of the bench grinder and put threads on it. Good enough for a broom or a paint roller.
That works too, if the wheel is coarse enough, I guess. Hadn't thought of using that. But then again, the file gives more control. Didn't take that long.
Could you elaborate how you used the bench grinder, which spin fast (!) to make the threads?
@@tk27a I suppose just instead of file, use corner of spinning grinding wheel :)
@@matthiaswandel I recognize that "good enough" is tough for you. The corner of the grinder is good enough. May take a couple of tries for the first one.
Yeah just make the stick long so you have plenty of tries to get the threads right 💕👍
It was neat to see how you approached and solved the problem. I'm certain that I could have met with failure after spending much more time on it. Thank you for sharing!
Everytime i come here you do some fascinating woodwork, Thank for sharing.
Man you are crazy! Awesome work!
Pask Makes would be proud of the hand work, he loves that stuff!
a classic Matthias video! love it!!
I never thought I would learn so much from a video about broom handle😂 Thank you for sharing👍👍🙏
Ur kids play with brooms, lucky 🤣💕👍
I was wondering what nifty thread cutting tool you were going to use to make those threads.
It never occurred to me that a file could be used to cut threads.
Slick demonstration.
I was about to make the exact same comment!
Especially with Mathias background and wisdom with gears and machine making. But that just goes to show that sometimes the rough-it-out method is fast and works well.
There is a "nifty tool" to do it. A lathe. But I think you need a special jig to do it on a woodworking lathe.
Greetings from the BIG SKY. Nice broom handle! Good thread cutting, too.
You make great videos, I love your topics and explanations!
Exactly what I need to easily fix the handles without having to buy anything special. TY Matthias.
TH-cam stopped recommending me your videos, for over 2 months now, even though I'm subscribed. I watch every video of yours for years and youtube does this.
Hey Matthias, in case you didn't think about it... you may want to saturate the new threads with thin CA glue. it will likely extend the life of the handle a bit...
Or even straight up reinforce them with resin.
@@pocket83squared polyurethane would definitely make them quite durable, yes. Hi.
Not sure that'll work now that the beeswax is on it. Maybe if he heated the end for long enough, it would dry out enough for the CA glue to penetrate again.
Cool way to solve a problem. And you are right about telling to kids to try to break it. my kids could damage a steel ball in a rubber lined room.
As usual,😁👍
As I am now pushing 82, and lazy as a dog on a hot day, I would probably vasoline the inside of the threads, and then assemble with epoxy.
I am amazed by Matthias ingenuity
This is the sort of Matthias video I absolutely love! Problem is presented ... solution is shown.
Well wouldn't habe thought a groom handle could be that interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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Your not an ordinary woodworker. You have talents that a inventor has. You should have your own woodworking school.
Like the little gadget for the dialindicator...😍
thank you so much for this video I have an old horse hair broom from my grandfather and the threads have worn out. I will use this technique to fix the threads.
Couldn’t stop staring at the face on the jig/brace you were using to hold the handle lol
Who needs the Dollar store for a new broom stick... lol. Great job!
excellent solution for a one off problem! Thanks for sharing this.
That must feel so much better now.
You are very good at broom handling
Happy Valentines day Matthias, love you man
I was curious of what you would do! I had a broomstick failed thread a while back and decided to cut a new thread, using a router. After many failed attempts, I bought a new broomstick 🙂
this video is the most serious justification to go buy a new broomstick.
@@ARichli LOL, yes 🙂
I agree. Never dare kids to break anything.
Very Wise Words!
My Daughter is only 7½ and she can break just about anything! 😀
"Hey kids you want to play with this broom... down in the shop... after i made a lot of chips" 😂
abom says you need a chamfer and a thread relief at the shoulder. But I guess this will do! But seriously, so brilliantly simple!
I'm a simple man.
I see a Matthias notification and I click.
Love your videos Matthias but this is the one time I would just go to a shop and buy another broom. But a great demonstration on how to make threads manualy.
Nicely done. Thank you for sharing your process.
Sooo, did I just miss the reason why you used the conduit as a diameter reference? Is it to have enough excess to carve the threads and their side ouf of it to be more snug?
I think it was to line up the router bit for the roundover.
I missed it too.
Adjusting the tablesaw fence? Not too sure myself.
I thought there was going to be more to it too, but apparently it was just to get the initial width to match the roundover from the router. I think he just didn't mention it because he didn't have an exact matching bit, and changed gears mentally to get an approximate match.
Nice way to cut quick threads
Very well done. Well done master!
I was about to say that this repair would be much simpler using a 3D printer. But with all that equiptment in place and your expertise and ingenuity, 3D printing would have been a waste of time!
I know zilch about woodwork but this craftsmanship is always a joy to watch
Absolutely genius. If i wasnt going to just buy a new brush I would have just made the diameter slightly smaller than the thread on the bottom section for a push fit and screwed up through from the bottom of the bristles
Smart but if trying to turn the brush, within a few uses, it would rotate so two screws would make sense with a small pilot hole so as to not split the hard wood.
Simple tools, ingenuity, patience...
Saving grace was not involving his better half in the context... LOL 🤣😆🤣 Great video again!
I made a broom handle to fit a shop broom about 5 years ago the same way. I started with a discarded broom, mop or shovel handle that had the wrong threads. I use it almost every day. Doing it by hand this way I was able to make it fit very tightly so that the broom doesn't rotate around the handle when using.
Excellent !!! Rien ne t'arrêtes Matthias !!! 😂😂😂
Excellent !!! Nothing can stop you Matthias!!! 😂😂😂
gosh, I love your videos so much
I thought maybe you'd take the threads off of the old broom, glue it to the new handle, screw it into the brush and clamp it down, then unscrew it while cutting the new threads on the table saw. Of course, when the thread runs out it can become a bit of a problem.
Dangerous thoughts aside, nice method of laying the threads out with the paper.
Droped the broomatick!
Matthias: let me build a jig to hold it
"Less time than figuring out how to set up a machine." Most impressive.
Dog-gone Dude you are smart. Ya don't want to challenge da Kids I'v learned that one the hard way... Love your Channel, and thanks for Sharing.
I was certain Matthias had found a way to make threads on the table saw, until he picked up a file... 😁
thought of using the table saw, but it's hard to see the cut. A radial arm saw might have been better
Or making threads on the Bandsaw
@@matthiaswandel time for a new wodden tool build series! 👌
That was brilliant! I have to remember that next time I want to cut some course threads. Now I just need to know how to cut the inside threads of the receiver.
I was wondering that as well
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Really excellent work, Matthias! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I've always just used the edge of a disk sander and eyeballed the threads.... takes a couple of try's but works just fine...
Matthias I didn't doubt you!!!
Who knew Matthias would have so much talent as a human reciprocating saw!
Amazing! I've been looking for a video like this for months to fix a wooden kids toy. I had a feeling you'd be the guy to figure out a method
I love these short, simple and relaxing videos. Sure you could have bought a broom handle at the dollar store - but this is more fun! and isn't that the point?
AND this one was BETTER. No way would a cheap Chinese replacement handle be up to durability of the better quality, hand made oak.
Not all the people is so intelligent.Really great
I noticed he didn't leap onto the broomstick as he's wont to do w/ his desks/tables/ ;P
Great job. Although, you have more patience than I.
imagine if he didn't have kids, he would've saved so much time.
Another prime example of not needing fancy tools to make a seemingly complex part.
I guess the whole video deserved it, but your last comment is what actually made me push the like button :D
I used to know an old guy that had a jig for doing this with a v groove bit on his router table. It would clamp the handle kinda like a lathe and rotate it while feeding it the proper amount. Had to eyeball your depth though. It collected a lot of dust but it was neat the few time I saw it get used.
As another "old guy" with a bunch of metal and wood lathes, yes a router jig makes sense. Ideally just find the closest inch or metri thread on a thread cutting metal lathe and hope you can find the pitch (about 5 tpi. ? )
ingenious and entertaining as always ☺☺
You had me at "beeswax type stuff"
Appears you're having fun! 😅 My self i reglue the handle and roll some wire around the broken "leg" ends up looking like a spring, strong enough to last the life of the broom, unless some bruja flights off with it! i would also let the bees do the waxing...
So what about the pipe? Or did I miss it?
20mm rebar is the best broom stick. Unbreakable and it serves as a workout tool.
Fantastic job!!
I've ALWAYS wondered how they used to make wooden threads (any threads) before machinery? One of those skills that's (MOSTLY) lost I'd imagine!?
I REALLY want to make a DIY wood working vice from wood, with a Large-format wooden Screw thread through the middle but I've no idea how it's done accurately..
You did a great job on this! 👍😎🏴🇬🇧
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I was thinking you'd use the old threads to guide the dowel through a router or something. That table saw and paper trick was completely unexpected.
I had a broom where the threads broke off... I used an angle grinder to cut new threads, no measurements, just winged it.
They would probably love the challenge! 😆
The idea of doing threads by hands is really cool! But, I think i'ma lazy guy. My idea: Just drill the hole a bit bigger, insert the broomstick and put a pin lock to hold it in place. Probably save two hours. But theads are really nice
save 10 minutes, and it will forever be kind of loose
With that file he's like Ainsley Harriet with a whisk!
Still waiting for that conduit to become in handy lol
What was that all about?
To roughly set up the rounding tool?
Tho he could have used the broken broomhandle for that tho.
Thank you. That was nice.
My man handmade a broomstick just for his kids to play with. Lucky kids
Artisanal, bespoke broom handle
Nice job. If you have to do this again, maybe try a triangle file instead. Should match the presumably 60 degree angle of those threads.
I would have never in 14 years thought to make my own broom handle
You really got a handle on things.
LOL, I see what you did there. Just bristling with humor…
To make it "Unbreakable", drill a hole all the way down through the center and insert a metal rod. That is probably overkill, though.
Great video! Thanks for the demo
Bit disappointed you didn't make thread-cutting jig but still solid result. ;-)
My initial thought would be to put couple of dowels across the crack in the old broom handle to make it stronger but nothing beats solid piece I suppose.
I still remember you saying using hand tools is considered "cheating". Hence this video was surprising to me. Great video though!