There is simple, minimalistic, but smart and self ironic drawing, and there is, well, just bad drawing. To be honest, he looks more like the second. What is more, there is way too many people going for the style he is trying here, so this affects the judgment.
it was a good watch. nowadays, vojvodina, while lacking serious autonomy does protect its minorities, hungarians for an example have their own party and they have the right to education in their language and hungarian is an official language so it's pretty good
@@peka003 verovao ili ne, u socijalnoj zastiti u programu koji se koristi za rad, kada klasifikujes problem korisnika postoji kategorija "pripadnik romske nacionalnosti". Samim tim sto je cigan ima pravo na dodatnu pomoc, ne bitno da li je obrazovan, bogat, siromasan. Isto sa fakultetima, cigani imaju kvote za upis, iskljucivo na osnovu rase. Jedna moja komsinica upisala fakultet iako nije imala ni priblizno dovoljno bodova, ali je zato romkinja, e sad, neko drugi, ko je ucio i imao vise bodova od nje, nije upisao zato sto nije cigan, za njega nema mesta. To nisu prava, to su privilegije
I loved the art, and how much detail you put into drawing borders of the map that had nothing to do with the vid (german borders while showcasing the 2nd movement for example). All in all 10/10 video, got me to learn something about a part of the world that I am honestly mostly ignorant about, and yea, loved it.
Im from souther part of vojvodina called Srem, my family got into official records of habsburg archives during the Hungarian revolt because they needed more men for war and only way to see how many you can conscript and tax was with proper population and land ownership census. They moved to Fruska Gora from Montenegro during the great migration in late 17 or early 18 century, even thought Serbs kept migrating north from the first real encounters with Turkish conquests (like in banat, you have paja jovanovic who was famous painter in 19 and early 20th century who descended from kosovo serbs which migrated north much earlier than the rest of us :D ). Village my father descended from was first mentioned in year 1389 same as kosovo battle, maybe just coincidence idk. Our history is quite rich over here, we even started a protestant branch of religion called nazarens, this religion denounced any kind of aggression, for example it forbid military service and killing other men. This was our way of dealing with habsburg policy of using us as meat grinder. And as any other peaceful religion this one got supressed and demonised, so now there are only few nazarens around (my great grandmother was nazaren, i was like 4 when she passed away so in year 2001). Habsburgs wanted to colonize this region because it was and still is rich for agriculture and has lot of navigable rivers (famous danube-tisa-danube canals were build during german reign) but it was also a borderline, so buffer was prefered to be here and they cemented that with petrovaradin fortress which still stands and is magnificent it took more than century to build it. But policy they used for colonising this region was quite anti Serbian and anti non catholic in general and pro german. Deutsche Vollkers in my region were called Sava Germans because of Sava river (i live on banks of this river in city of Sremska Mitrovica). Germans got land for free and people living there had to work for 3 years without any pay for those german settlers (basically serfdom), and it led to few becoming the elites and it lasted long enough for us serbs to be either fully assimilated or for us to flee to other places. Then during the Kingdom of Yugoslavia they forcefully settled people from bosnia into vojvodina, and during the SFRJ a lot of factories started opening here and it led to migrations from other parts of Yugoslavia to Vojvodina (it started in 60's, my mothers family moved here in 1965 the year she was born, and she was youngest of three, they moved here from Croatian parts of Kraina near city of Karlovac in Croatia, but real municipality was city of Vojnic even thought Karlovac was much more important than that little town. They also settled Croatian parts of kraina during great migrations, and were also from montenegre, different part of montenegro butt same bs). I hope i didn't bother you too much
Indeed, Habsburgs had a policy to mix ethnicities, especially in the newly occupied/annexed territories - to weaken the national resistance. I know other examples - Bucovina for example. After the 1774 annexation, they started pouring in Ukrainians, Jews, Germans, Hungarians, giving them lands confiscated mainly from the Moldovan Orthodox Church (monasteries etc).
bro, i was watching the video and suddenly saw you only have 577 subs. i was shocked, because the content you're doing is worth so much more than just 577 subs. at least now you have 578 ;) keep doing what you're doing mate, it's amazing!
this content isn't worth even 1 like. And I am from Voivodina. Most of the things in the video is - nonsense. probably someone paid they guy to write crap, as always west likes to do with Balkans.
You deal with an original subject in a very entertaining way, had to sub after just three minutes. Got a feeling you're gonna go far if you keep this up
sad that such serious things are funny to worldwide people, and that you like to see some entertaining video telling nonsense from either knowing for real whats going on on these places and to visit it for better picture.
@@СтефанЂукић-с7л and the monunent is a reminder that instead of infrastructure (tram), money and food we got nationalists, mafia and huge stone d*ck statues with empty mottos on them.
3:58 "This has shown that Serbians can rebel,revolt and hell start a new country from the midst of war" I don't know should I be happy or sad that we haven't changed much on that regard...
This video also shows how Serbs demographically replaced the Hungarians in Vojvodina. A real shame, because Vojvodina has always historically been Hungarian and will be returned to them one day. Serbs have no right to that land, they just migrated there in large numbers and took advantage of Ottoman invasion of Hungary.
@@jonizymberi6787 I mean, migrational occupation is a valid claim after a while... but honestly for a modern day solutions we should redraw borders, it would be bad for serbia but good for north bacska and banat...
@@jonizymberi6787 If you want to dive into this argument, then sadly I can tell you, but Hungarians should all go back to Siberia from where they came, if we go with that dumb logic. Area of modern Vojvodina and Hungary were inhabitat by Slavs (including Serbs) before Hungarians migrated here. Since then, this area was constantly inhabitat by both Hungarians and different Slavic groups (including Serbs) with exact % changing as time passed. As such, mixed nature of this region was feature of it at least for 1000+ years and as long as it stays as it is, it will be split like this.
@@jonizymberi6787 if we go by the 3 regions of Vojvodina; this argument is completely false in the case of Syrmia which has always been majority Slavic / Serbian, partly true for Banat which has always been incredibly diverse and have seen periods of ethnic shifting, and half true for Bačka which was majority Hungarian only after Magyarization. The Pannonian Slavs that the Hungarians displaced would like to have a word with you and your historical revisionism.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 the only ones who should go to siberia are nazi serbs, the true owners of these lands are Albanians and Hungarians, not some still uncivilized fake state
It's a bit the opposite. Because of Tito who wanted to weaken Serbia and did not do the same to Dalmatia, Istria and parts of Bosnia that had more reasons for autonomy. Vojvodina had autonomy in Austria-Hungary, it was officially called the Voivodship of Serbia (Vojvodstvo Srbija) in some periods and the Serbian Voivodeship (Srpsko Vojvodstvo) in others. Today there is no reason for its autonomy nor do the majority of citizens want it.
@@amarillorose7810 well, I wouldn't completely agree with your statement. I adore Vojvodina, my parents are from there and I consider myself a patriot, the government takes a lot from Vojvodina since it's the most developed part of Serbia. Simply put while corruption runs rampant Vojvodina as the most developed part of the nation has to protect its resources and it's interests, which are Serbia's interests, as well. The government is investing into Belgrade mostly and it's taking a lot from its autonomous region. I adamantly opposed the idea of an independent state of Vojvodina and consider people who want it traitors but while the situation is like it currently is I think it should continue having its autonomy, at least for the time being.
@@amarillorose7810 Over the last 80 years Serbs have gone from being only 30% of Vojvodina population to now at around 65%. Through displacing native Hungarians, Germans and Croats (all of whom have seen our populations decline at expenses of Serbians migrating here and stealing our land). Plus its not true that "majority of citizens do not want it". Serb extremists who have migrated to Vojvodina in last decades don't want it true, but not the majority of native people in Vojvodina.
@@horvatlovren7198 What nonsense, but expected from the likes of you. Serbs have always been the majority and native. The only ones displaced were Germans (Danube Swabians - some of whom you know what they did in the second world war and some were innocent) by Tito who was one of yours, Croat. It's better not to talk because you are the last person who should talk about expulsion, relocation, etc. what you did in the second world war, and then in the 90s, neither the Danube nor the Sava can wash away.
@@tainii-san5879 Corruption exists in the whole country, but it is not only our problem, it is a problem in the whole world, small, big, hidden, public, it certainly exists everywhere in any of these forms. They take from the whole country, not only from the Vojvodina. Much of what you said is true, but the problem is much deeper and more complex. In fact, through this autonomy, money is taken from the citizens, which is given to the two parliaments and a large number of politicians, and it is better if that money can be spent on the citizens, infrastructure, renovation of facades etc., something useful to the citizens.
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Nice video, it's very rare for foreigners to talk about Vojvodina. These are also some things you forgot to mention in the video. You didn't mention the genocide and forced expulsion of Germans by the communists after WW2 That large rebellion is called the Banat uprising and it happened in 1594. And as I'm from Vojvodina, it is good that we have autonomy because of ethnic diversity but it will always be a part of Serbia and the independence movement is very weak and it mostly consists of autochauvinists funded by foreigners.
and you not talking about genocide of Serbs and other nationalities under Germans during WWII, and WWI ? really youbhave shame to write such absurdic comment here on Serbian land where Serbs are MAJORITY?
I mean, yeah, cinde of, but not really... Ok, it's complicated. Our autonomy is more or less to protect language and cultural rights of minority groups, of which there are 34 if I'm not mistaken, and we have 6 official languages (tho serbian and croatian are tha same, and I'll die on this hill!) Also that constitution of 1974 was major part of the problems in SFRJ. Anyway, pritty good video about my home region.
Currently, the number of people who support any sort of a substantial autonomy for Vojvodina is around 2%. It is essentially an outdated communist construct. Tito tried his best to tear it away from Serbia, but even this was a bridge too far from him. No one wants Vojvodina anymore, not even the minorities, to whom it means nothing since Vojvodina is already more than 70% Serbian. They'd rather have some regional autonomy within a regionalization of Serbia into smaller units and indeed Vojvodina in many ways with its asymmetrical structure prevents a normal regionalization of Serbia.
I was born and live in Novi Sad, the biggest city in Vojvodina, and I must say, most of the people in my town, just like myself, and in Vojvodina in general are descendant from Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina/ Croatia, who were exiled or just wanted to escape war during the Yugoslav war in the 90s, the local Serbs and Hungarians here usually get pissed because there are more and more Bosnian Serbs in Novi Sad, like students from Republic of Srpska, and like to call us "dođoši" which means "those who came", even though most of their ancestors also came to Vojvodina too, but from Kosovo and Metohija in the times of The great migration of Serbs, led by Arsenije Čarnojević, back when Serbia was under Ottoman occupation...
Greetings! I noticed you have some things to improve on. Would you fancy some voice acting? I can speak english in multiple accents plus i can pronounce many texts correctly INCLUDING hungarian stuff. Would you be interested?
He has a good point though. In the "dialogues", the voices are identical (since both are you) and you cannot tell "who is who". You just need to act a bit more, or change the voices with equalization
The whole reason I watched this video is because I have a atlas in in . But in the atlas there is no problem and in the section about countries I saw vojvodina so I can to the video
good video one piece of feedback: on mobile the map of kingdom of vovjodina and banat 's text is hard to read so making maps bigger in the future would be great thank you
@@Globeraphy no but a small region who has a mixed population named Szekelland which has special rights n' stuff such as: Schools in Hungarian & German All TV channels are translated The region is slowly becoming latinized as most of its Non Romanian population has either aged or moved in other countries
Omg i got a like by the creator and i am still watching the same video, quick make a joke which will become a running gag on your channel and make a patreon and do all the youtuber stuff!
Za srbe autonomija nije dobra što to strane sline sile zlopotrebacaju kao sa kosovo. .. a kod njih svaka zgrada može da ima autonomiju i. Nikom nista imaju 50 država u jednoj a ne autonomije ali prostoru srbije to nije dobro oni će uvek kroz autonomiju gurati priču nezavisnoj vojvodini i sve dok se mi srbi. Neprobudimo od te mašte da je bg kriv za sve nade probleme ...mi ćemo nakraju zavrsiti svi kao izbeglice u bg i opet kenjati po bg i braci srbima.Kontam da se može napraviti sistem neki gde je svaki grad ima svoju auto očiju ali ne provinciju pa može da radi sa svojim parama šta treba ali to u celoj srbiji treba uvesti a to kao kroz autonomne provinciju kao vodovodu samo donosi do nezavisnosti ....
While it makes me glad to hear you say that, what is your opinion on the government taking more money an resources from Vojvodina and giving back little? Since Vojvodina is the most developed part of the country.
@@tainii-san5879 We all know this and its been like that for a while, well honestly i have stable job w good salary, but it’s truly unfair to agriculturists cuz they work the most and their salary is fucking shame of this country, Belgrade takes 100% money from Vojvodina and returns like 3%, then they build the roads in central or south serbia and shit, or they making some fucking non necessary shit in Belgrade, i think vojvodina’s economy should be more autonomous so us all can have a better life here
@@СтефанЂукић-с7л Croats escaped this shit whike they could, same as with anyone who had a less than mentaly handicalled war criminal for a leader, and yet here we are with the potential of prosperity and zero fruition.
en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/737654 Go to 1931, and see the percentages. Also, as I think you didn't notice it, I wrote "at its worst" at 1:30. Meaning that it's not the percentages now, but that of 1931.
Well, the countries that has brought in the most views are USA and Serbia (USA = 17%, Serbia = 13%). Croatian viewers and Hungarian viewers comprise roughly 5%.
The historical part is quite accurate, but there is like zero interest in independence or increased autonomy for Vojvodina nowadays (the pool that puts it at 5% is from 20 years algo). It feels like a part of Serbia like any other. I think this part of the world already had their fair share of division, sectarism, made up identities hating each other, and tiny, poor, unviable countries popping up one after the other. I know it is not what you are proposing but it will be what some people will understand of the video.
@@Globeraphy its a very small minority that would pretty much never be able to achive their goal even if supported from outside because serbs are a large majority.
Why to start from 1100? Dna researches showed that Serbian I2 haplogroup is native and oldest in Balkans, similar like Romanian, and Hungarians are Slavic R1a, so Pannonian plain is bordering area of those two haplogroups, so its fair to be divided equally which mostly is today. Furthermore, medieval Hungary spoke mostly Slavic language before 1521. and later Hungary gained autonomy in same year as Vojvodstvo Srbsko (Serbian Duchy is original name) and independance in 1918. Hungary get name in Habsburg state after 1848. because Catholic church wanted to expand power from Austria further east
Goes to show you how autonomy for the minorities living in a major Serb region like Vojvodina contrasts with the treatment of the Serb population in Kosovo, where they find themselves a minority today.
You missed a part when Vojvodina joined serbia, by referendum after WW1, thats why its autonomous. The think from 1974 was mostly to avoid gerrymandering. As Serbs had less voting power since they were only one country. You had Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. Thats a 3 to 1. So When Vojvodina and K&M were classed as Autonomous (same as other "countires") It was fair, a 3v3.
I do feel as if you undermined Jovan Nenad and his influence in the whole idea of Vojvodina in the video, talking badly about a rather important historical person isn't something to do honestly. He didn't die in battle he was assasinated, he over a span od 3 months managed to defeat the ottoman battle and arise an army of more man that had the austrians or hungarians at that time, he was a big deal in those 1 year while he was there. If he hadn't been assasinated it would be a interesting playout on the scene but again he was most likely the man who was undermined by everyone thinking he was a villager and nothing more like Karadjordje, who was in fact in Austrian and Ottoman universities and in the Freikorps, most probably Jovan had some reall battle and administration tactics since he made it there with little to none people oposing him in his realm
The whole "Emperor" and "empire" - thing was for comedic relief. If I wanted, I could've done that to any important historical figure. I could've done that to Abraham Lincoln or Suleiman The Magnificent. It wouldn't matter to me. I'm not sorry if you got offended over a damn joke. About Jovan's death - you might be right. I had multible sources that said that he died in battle, others that said that he got assasinated. I should've included both claims of Jovan's death instead of just saying one. I'm sorry for that.
@@Globeraphy oh no, im not offended by that he was nothing near an emperor, he was pretty much a commander, but he was a big historical character and the whole idea of Vojvodina came from him, if not for him it would probably be Hungary of a lot smaller than it is, however a interesting character nonetheless
Because if it becomes independant serbia and montenegro are gonna die from hunger meanwhile Vojvodina would be the riches country in the Europe. Perfect geography and very calm and united people with 3 religions in the aria. Serbian Orthodox church, Hungarian-Croat Chatholic church and Romanian Church. Today they have a lot of independance on everything. Most notably is the schoolarship. I would mostly say all the diferances invovled are there to make up for different religions. When i used to go to school i always admired how long there holidays are hehe due to covering both christmasses. I am from southern Belgrade aka more in Central Serbia but i really enjoy visiting Vojvodina. Lifestyle is completely different. Without Subotica and Hungarians i dont think i would be ever able to get all the tech stuff so cheap from Europe
This is a really weird post, must be trolling. Vojvodina is half an hour away by train from Belgrade and there are people commuting between both everyday. But you talk as if they were in separate continents.
a small correction: Kosovo and Vojvodina got autonomy in order for the Serbs to get more votes in Yugoslavia.This is partly to blame for the collapse of Yugoslavia, as the Serbs always had more control.
It was completely opposite. Reason why they got autonomy was to weaken Serbia inside of Yugoslavia. Why didn't they make autonomy for parts of Bosnia or Croatia since they were much more ethnically divided then Serbia?
@@muha0644 Divna je bila ta vElIKa SrBiJa zvana Jugoslavija gdje su Srbi bili diskriminisani i gdje se radili na pravljenju lažnih identiteta koji se zasnivaju na mržnji prema srpstvu.
It is for now. Historically it has never been Serbian except when allies gifted it in 1918. Every argument Serbs use for Kosovo claim, Hungarians have an even stronger claim to Vojvodina.
Learn how to draw
Pin of shame lets gooo
There is simple, minimalistic, but smart and self ironic drawing, and there is, well, just bad drawing. To be honest, he looks more like the second. What is more, there is way too many people going for the style he is trying here, so this affects the judgment.
Pin of shame
Pin of L
Pin of not understanding the intention
it was a good watch. nowadays, vojvodina, while lacking serious autonomy does protect its minorities, hungarians for an example have their own party and they have the right to education in their language and hungarian is an official language so it's pretty good
they don't have rights, they have privileges that the serbian population does not
@@mindfortress105 Like what?
Well, there are 7 official languages of Vojvodina so it's hard not to get in there lol
@@mindfortress105 jednaki smo svi
@@peka003 verovao ili ne, u socijalnoj zastiti u programu koji se koristi za rad, kada klasifikujes problem korisnika postoji kategorija "pripadnik romske nacionalnosti". Samim tim sto je cigan ima pravo na dodatnu pomoc, ne bitno da li je obrazovan, bogat, siromasan. Isto sa fakultetima, cigani imaju kvote za upis, iskljucivo na osnovu rase. Jedna moja komsinica upisala fakultet iako nije imala ni priblizno dovoljno bodova, ali je zato romkinja, e sad, neko drugi, ko je ucio i imao vise bodova od nje, nije upisao zato sto nije cigan, za njega nema mesta. To nisu prava, to su privilegije
I am from Vojvodina.
It is a nice video, I have not seen many foreigner dealing with this topic.
That's why I wanted to cover the topic!
Me too, my gari! 😁
Veldig bra Jakob
@Nikolai408 Nice, cheers.
I loved the art, and how much detail you put into drawing borders of the map that had nothing to do with the vid (german borders while showcasing the 2nd movement for example). All in all 10/10 video, got me to learn something about a part of the world that I am honestly mostly ignorant about, and yea, loved it.
Im from souther part of vojvodina called Srem, my family got into official records of habsburg archives during the Hungarian revolt because they needed more men for war and only way to see how many you can conscript and tax was with proper population and land ownership census. They moved to Fruska Gora from Montenegro during the great migration in late 17 or early 18 century, even thought Serbs kept migrating north from the first real encounters with Turkish conquests (like in banat, you have paja jovanovic who was famous painter in 19 and early 20th century who descended from kosovo serbs which migrated north much earlier than the rest of us :D ). Village my father descended from was first mentioned in year 1389 same as kosovo battle, maybe just coincidence idk. Our history is quite rich over here, we even started a protestant branch of religion called nazarens, this religion denounced any kind of aggression, for example it forbid military service and killing other men. This was our way of dealing with habsburg policy of using us as meat grinder. And as any other peaceful religion this one got supressed and demonised, so now there are only few nazarens around (my great grandmother was nazaren, i was like 4 when she passed away so in year 2001). Habsburgs wanted to colonize this region because it was and still is rich for agriculture and has lot of navigable rivers (famous danube-tisa-danube canals were build during german reign) but it was also a borderline, so buffer was prefered to be here and they cemented that with petrovaradin fortress which still stands and is magnificent it took more than century to build it. But policy they used for colonising this region was quite anti Serbian and anti non catholic in general and pro german. Deutsche Vollkers in my region were called Sava Germans because of Sava river (i live on banks of this river in city of Sremska Mitrovica). Germans got land for free and people living there had to work for 3 years without any pay for those german settlers (basically serfdom), and it led to few becoming the elites and it lasted long enough for us serbs to be either fully assimilated or for us to flee to other places. Then during the Kingdom of Yugoslavia they forcefully settled people from bosnia into vojvodina, and during the SFRJ a lot of factories started opening here and it led to migrations from other parts of Yugoslavia to Vojvodina (it started in 60's, my mothers family moved here in 1965 the year she was born, and she was youngest of three, they moved here from Croatian parts of Kraina near city of Karlovac in Croatia, but real municipality was city of Vojnic even thought Karlovac was much more important than that little town. They also settled Croatian parts of kraina during great migrations, and were also from montenegre, different part of montenegro butt same bs). I hope i didn't bother you too much
no krajina, never was, never will be.
Fascinating!
i aint reading allat
@@ninoney1581no hvo
Fun fact Kosovo had bigger bulgarian population than serbian durning ottoman empire and albanians were majority
Indeed, Habsburgs had a policy to mix ethnicities, especially in the newly occupied/annexed territories - to weaken the national resistance. I know other examples - Bucovina for example. After the 1774 annexation, they started pouring in Ukrainians, Jews, Germans, Hungarians, giving them lands confiscated mainly from the Moldovan Orthodox Church (monasteries etc).
Your edtiting and audio is very good and your artstyle is simple and reminds me of Sam o' Nella, keep up the great work!
this video is so good, you are very underrated. im definitely subscribing.
bro, i was watching the video and suddenly saw you only have 577 subs. i was shocked, because the content you're doing is worth so much more than just 577 subs. at least now you have 578 ;) keep doing what you're doing mate, it's amazing!
this content isn't worth even 1 like. And I am from Voivodina. Most of the things in the video is - nonsense. probably someone paid they guy to write crap, as always west likes to do with Balkans.
You deal with an original subject in a very entertaining way, had to sub after just three minutes.
Got a feeling you're gonna go far if you keep this up
sad that such serious things are funny to worldwide people, and that you like to see some entertaining video telling nonsense from either knowing for real whats going on on these places and to visit it for better picture.
i live in Vojvodina nad nobody really cares about its autonomy
Yeah, everybody lives peacefully there. It's just there.
@@HawkThunder907 that is not truth but there is no nationalist shit
@@vladimirmarkovic8563 that's what I said, everybody lives peacefully
@@HawkThunder907 there is a lot of shit even here but it isn't based by nationalism
@@vladimirmarkovic8563 ja živim u Vojvodini...
"When there are common people, there are common interests"
Globeraphy, this is the 2763rd time you've said that
When there's common people there's common interest, and someone who will be annoyed over that sentence.
tnx for pronouncing Vojvodina almost correctly.
WOW, this was amazing. Underrated channel.
Thank you :)
I didn't watch the video yet but the first 22 seconds, it looks well made good job.
The monument of Tzar Jovan Nenad is in my hometown of Subotica, since it used to be capital of Jovan's Serbian empire
And on monument there is a writing “Your idea has won” because vojvodina became part of serbia
@@СтефанЂукић-с7л Да, тако је
@@СтефанЂукић-с7л and the monunent is a reminder that instead of infrastructure (tram), money and food we got nationalists, mafia and huge stone d*ck statues with empty mottos on them.
3:58 "This has shown that Serbians can rebel,revolt and hell start a new country from the midst of war" I don't know should I be happy or sad that we haven't changed much on that regard...
This video also shows how Serbs demographically replaced the Hungarians in Vojvodina. A real shame, because Vojvodina has always historically been Hungarian and will be returned to them one day. Serbs have no right to that land, they just migrated there in large numbers and took advantage of Ottoman invasion of Hungary.
@@jonizymberi6787 I mean, migrational occupation is a valid claim after a while... but honestly for a modern day solutions we should redraw borders, it would be bad for serbia but good for north bacska and banat...
@@jonizymberi6787 If you want to dive into this argument, then sadly I can tell you, but Hungarians should all go back to Siberia from where they came, if we go with that dumb logic. Area of modern Vojvodina and Hungary were inhabitat by Slavs (including Serbs) before Hungarians migrated here. Since then, this area was constantly inhabitat by both Hungarians and different Slavic groups (including Serbs) with exact % changing as time passed. As such, mixed nature of this region was feature of it at least for 1000+ years and as long as it stays as it is, it will be split like this.
@@jonizymberi6787 if we go by the 3 regions of Vojvodina; this argument is completely false in the case of Syrmia which has always been majority Slavic / Serbian, partly true for Banat which has always been incredibly diverse and have seen periods of ethnic shifting, and half true for Bačka which was majority Hungarian only after Magyarization. The Pannonian Slavs that the Hungarians displaced would like to have a word with you and your historical revisionism.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 the only ones who should go to siberia are nazi serbs, the true owners of these lands are Albanians and Hungarians, not some still uncivilized fake state
always nice to see smaller geopolitical channels reccomended
Ayo your video is awesome bro! You certainly deserve more subs :)
greetings from vojvodina serbia,i always thought its autonomous simply because lot of ethnic minorities to increase stability of country
It's a bit the opposite. Because of Tito who wanted to weaken Serbia and did not do the same to Dalmatia, Istria and parts of Bosnia that had more reasons for autonomy. Vojvodina had autonomy in Austria-Hungary, it was officially called the Voivodship of Serbia (Vojvodstvo Srbija) in some periods and the Serbian Voivodeship (Srpsko Vojvodstvo) in others. Today there is no reason for its autonomy nor do the majority of citizens want it.
@@amarillorose7810 well, I wouldn't completely agree with your statement. I adore Vojvodina, my parents are from there and I consider myself a patriot, the government takes a lot from Vojvodina since it's the most developed part of Serbia. Simply put while corruption runs rampant Vojvodina as the most developed part of the nation has to protect its resources and it's interests, which are Serbia's interests, as well. The government is investing into Belgrade mostly and it's taking a lot from its autonomous region. I adamantly opposed the idea of an independent state of Vojvodina and consider people who want it traitors but while the situation is like it currently is I think it should continue having its autonomy, at least for the time being.
@@amarillorose7810 Over the last 80 years Serbs have gone from being only 30% of Vojvodina population to now at around 65%. Through displacing native Hungarians, Germans and Croats (all of whom have seen our populations decline at expenses of Serbians migrating here and stealing our land). Plus its not true that "majority of citizens do not want it". Serb extremists who have migrated to Vojvodina in last decades don't want it true, but not the majority of native people in Vojvodina.
@@horvatlovren7198 What nonsense, but expected from the likes of you. Serbs have always been the majority and native. The only ones displaced were Germans (Danube Swabians - some of whom you know what they did in the second world war and some were innocent) by Tito who was one of yours, Croat. It's better not to talk because you are the last person who should talk about expulsion, relocation, etc. what you did in the second world war, and then in the 90s, neither the Danube nor the Sava can wash away.
@@tainii-san5879 Corruption exists in the whole country, but it is not only our problem, it is a problem in the whole world, small, big, hidden, public, it certainly exists everywhere in any of these forms. They take from the whole country, not only from the Vojvodina. Much of what you said is true, but the problem is much deeper and more complex. In fact, through this autonomy, money is taken from the citizens, which is given to the two parliaments and a large number of politicians, and it is better if that money can be spent on the citizens, infrastructure, renovation of facades etc., something useful to the citizens.
i really enjoyed it ! it was both funny and informative !
Thank you :)
keep going, im excited to see this channel evolve
your channel just got recomennded, and i really enjoyed this video! that's a subscribe from me :)
let's hope the algorithm will bless you with more views!
me too hope the get views (+ you just gained a sub)
Thanks :)
Nice video, it's very rare for foreigners to talk about Vojvodina.
These are also some things you forgot to mention in the video.
You didn't mention the genocide and forced expulsion of Germans by the communists after WW2
That large rebellion is called the Banat uprising and it happened in 1594.
And as I'm from Vojvodina, it is good that we have autonomy because of ethnic diversity but it will always be a part of Serbia and the independence movement is very weak and it mostly consists of autochauvinists funded by foreigners.
Yeah I mean, damn evil communists. Why would someone expel the germans after WW2? It is not as if... they did something wrong there?
Screw those German settlers. They literally commited the genocide and moved into empty homes. They got what they deserved.
Vojvodina is literally over 70% serbs. It will get removed someday
and you not talking about genocide of Serbs and other nationalities under Germans during WWII, and WWI ? really youbhave shame to write such absurdic comment here on Serbian land where Serbs are MAJORITY?
How come Kosovo declare it's independence, and not Vojdovoina.
Vojvodina has 85% Serbs,Kosovo has 2-3% Serbs, Vojvodina doesn't want to declare independence
@@mile_381 A whole different story Kososvo is about 5% Serb
Here before this Channel becomes popular 🔥
I suspect that this is a spam comment.
@@Globeraphy no no no I'm reaΙ 😬
I loved this video! Thank you dude❤
indeed underrated
Fantastic Sam O'nella-esque channel. How come you have so little subscribers. Hope that changes soon. Loved the video. Keep on making them
Hello from Vojvodina
Hello
Vodjovina. Yugoslavia but on a smaller scale but as diverse as yugoslavia.
Nice video! hope to see more of you
wow! now that is a question i never asked myself before
I mean, yeah, cinde of, but not really...
Ok, it's complicated. Our autonomy is more or less to protect language and cultural rights of minority groups, of which there are 34 if I'm not mistaken, and we have 6 official languages (tho serbian and croatian are tha same, and I'll die on this hill!) Also that constitution of 1974 was major part of the problems in SFRJ.
Anyway, pritty good video about my home region.
Love your vids! Didn't expect your subs to be low, your vids are awesome!
One word: Underrated
Currently, the number of people who support any sort of a substantial autonomy for Vojvodina is around 2%. It is essentially an outdated communist construct. Tito tried his best to tear it away from Serbia, but even this was a bridge too far from him.
No one wants Vojvodina anymore, not even the minorities, to whom it means nothing since Vojvodina is already more than 70% Serbian. They'd rather have some regional autonomy within a regionalization of Serbia into smaller units and indeed Vojvodina in many ways with its asymmetrical structure prevents a normal regionalization of Serbia.
I was born and live in Novi Sad, the biggest city in Vojvodina, and I must say, most of the people in my town, just like myself, and in Vojvodina in general are descendant from Serbs from Bosnia and Herzegovina/ Croatia, who were exiled or just wanted to escape war during the Yugoslav war in the 90s, the local Serbs and Hungarians here usually get pissed because there are more and more Bosnian Serbs in Novi Sad, like students from Republic of Srpska, and like to call us "dođoši" which means "those who came", even though most of their ancestors also came to Vojvodina too, but from Kosovo and Metohija in the times of The great migration of Serbs, led by Arsenije Čarnojević, back when Serbia was under Ottoman occupation...
What's the point of Vojvodina being autonomous?
@@tombuddy100 there is no point, only seething hungarian/croat mutts, which are around 17% of the population would want that
nice video keep up the good work
i love these videos! reminds me of a (slightly) less goofy samonella acadamy.
Greetings! I noticed you have some things to improve on. Would you fancy some voice acting? I can speak english in multiple accents plus i can pronounce many texts correctly INCLUDING hungarian stuff. Would you be interested?
Hello! Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I'll need voice acting in the near future.
He has a good point though. In the "dialogues", the voices are identical (since both are you) and you cannot tell "who is who". You just need to act a bit more, or change the voices with equalization
The whole reason I watched this video is because I have a atlas in in . But in the atlas there is no problem and in the section about countries I saw vojvodina so I can to the video
This is a fantastic video
I can hear a scandinavian english dialect
nice video!
Thanks man. Great vid. From where are you btw?
I'm from Norway :)
good video one piece of feedback: on mobile the map of kingdom of vovjodina and banat 's text is hard to read so making maps bigger in the future would be great thank you
Thanks for the feedback! Will adjust the maps in the future!
What's the song that playing at 11:02 ?
wish you would've included it in ur description ;_;
will you do a similar video for transylvania.
Wait, is it autonomous?
@@Globeraphy no but a small region who has a mixed population named Szekelland which has special rights n' stuff such as:
Schools in Hungarian & German
All TV channels are translated
The region is slowly becoming latinized as most of its Non Romanian population has either aged or moved in other countries
@@K.Pershing Ah okay.
The way you said Mohács killed me
If the majority is Serbian then how is it not South Slavic?
Keep up the good work, you can go far! All the best from Kraljevo
Thanks man :)
I enjoyed myself watching this video and i guess you will get lots of subscribers within this and a couple of months
Omg i got a like by the creator and i am still watching the same video, quick make a joke which will become a running gag on your channel and make a patreon and do all the youtuber stuff!
nice vid
Mom can we have Sam O'Nella?
Mom: we have Sam O'Nella at home
Sam O'Nella at home:
well i'm from northern Serbia/Vojvodina too but we really doesnt care for its authonomy, in my oppinion it should stay as it is now...
By 'we' you mean 'you'. I do care for the autonomy status, as well as many others.
@@borisnikolic246 most of us*
Za srbe autonomija nije dobra što to strane sline sile zlopotrebacaju kao sa kosovo. .. a kod njih svaka zgrada može da ima autonomiju i. Nikom nista imaju 50 država u jednoj a ne autonomije ali prostoru srbije to nije dobro oni će uvek kroz autonomiju gurati priču nezavisnoj vojvodini i sve dok se mi srbi. Neprobudimo od te mašte da je bg kriv za sve nade probleme ...mi ćemo nakraju zavrsiti svi kao izbeglice u bg i opet kenjati po bg i braci srbima.Kontam da se može napraviti sistem neki gde je svaki grad ima svoju auto očiju ali ne provinciju pa može da radi sa svojim parama šta treba ali to u celoj srbiji treba uvesti a to kao kroz autonomne provinciju kao vodovodu samo donosi do nezavisnosti ....
@@borisnikolic246"Many other"= 20 people😂
So lemme get dis str8 if there are common people there is no common interest?
i love that sam o nella look of the video
love the video im also Norwegian homeboy
idk much but I know that if there is common people there is common interest
I can say i was here before you became famous ;)
Ever heard of Samuel O'Nellious?
Not a bad video. I expected some western propaganda but you did a good job.
nah cuz i thot the thumbnail was a map of western usa 💀
Bellaquistan is my favorite country.
very good video
As a person who lives in Vojvodina i think that life here isn't bad
Same
Same
While it makes me glad to hear you say that, what is your opinion on the government taking more money an resources from Vojvodina and giving back little? Since Vojvodina is the most developed part of the country.
@@tainii-san5879 We all know this and its been like that for a while, well honestly i have stable job w good salary, but it’s truly unfair to agriculturists cuz they work the most and their salary is fucking shame of this country, Belgrade takes 100% money from Vojvodina and returns like 3%, then they build the roads in central or south serbia and shit, or they making some fucking non necessary shit in Belgrade, i think vojvodina’s economy should be more autonomous so us all can have a better life here
@@СтефанЂукић-с7л Croats escaped this shit whike they could, same as with anyone who had a less than mentaly handicalled war criminal for a leader, and yet here we are with the potential of prosperity and zero fruition.
1:30 wikipedia - Ethnic_groups_in_Vojvodina , buddy, you may have written those percentages wrong.
en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/737654
Go to 1931, and see the percentages. Also, as I think you didn't notice it, I wrote "at its worst" at 1:30. Meaning that it's not the percentages now, but that of 1931.
I think that people from Vojvodina don't really care about this topic at all unlike Hungarians and Croats from their own country.
Well, the countries that has brought in the most views are USA and Serbia (USA = 17%, Serbia = 13%). Croatian viewers and Hungarian viewers comprise roughly 5%.
The historical part is quite accurate, but there is like zero interest in independence or increased autonomy for Vojvodina nowadays (the pool that puts it at 5% is from 20 years algo). It feels like a part of Serbia like any other.
I think this part of the world already had their fair share of division, sectarism, made up identities hating each other, and tiny, poor, unviable countries popping up one after the other. I know it is not what you are proposing but it will be what some people will understand of the video.
Yes, sadly there's some who believe I am proposing that.
@@Globeraphy its a very small minority that would pretty much never be able to achive their goal even if supported from outside because serbs are a large majority.
Why to start from 1100? Dna researches showed that Serbian I2 haplogroup is native and oldest in Balkans, similar like Romanian, and Hungarians are Slavic R1a, so Pannonian plain is bordering area of those two haplogroups, so its fair to be divided equally which mostly is today. Furthermore, medieval Hungary spoke mostly Slavic language before 1521. and later Hungary gained autonomy in same year as Vojvodstvo Srbsko (Serbian Duchy is original name) and independance in 1918. Hungary get name in Habsburg state after 1848. because Catholic church wanted to expand power from Austria further east
This channel reminds me of someone... non the less good video
Goes to show you how autonomy for the minorities living in a major Serb region like Vojvodina contrasts with the treatment of the Serb population in Kosovo, where they find themselves a minority today.
You missed a part when Vojvodina joined serbia, by referendum after WW1, thats why its autonomous. The think from 1974 was mostly to avoid gerrymandering. As Serbs had less voting power since they were only one country. You had Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. Thats a 3 to 1. So When Vojvodina and K&M were classed as Autonomous (same as other "countires") It was fair, a 3v3.
Montenegro and Macedonia were the thing that made slovenia,croatia and bosnia fair... kosovo and vojvodina made it unbalanced...
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k yes I forgot about those. I am wrong
After ww1 and ww2 like 2,000 Germans overall live in Serbia.
In this nation
We say Vojvodina and Kosovo got their autonomy from Serbia, because of Tito
I do feel as if you undermined Jovan Nenad and his influence in the whole idea of Vojvodina in the video, talking badly about a rather important historical person isn't something to do honestly. He didn't die in battle he was assasinated, he over a span od 3 months managed to defeat the ottoman battle and arise an army of more man that had the austrians or hungarians at that time, he was a big deal in those 1 year while he was there. If he hadn't been assasinated it would be a interesting playout on the scene but again he was most likely the man who was undermined by everyone thinking he was a villager and nothing more like Karadjordje, who was in fact in Austrian and Ottoman universities and in the Freikorps, most probably Jovan had some reall battle and administration tactics since he made it there with little to none people oposing him in his realm
The whole "Emperor" and "empire" - thing was for comedic relief. If I wanted, I could've done that to any important historical figure. I could've done that to Abraham Lincoln or Suleiman The Magnificent. It wouldn't matter to me. I'm not sorry if you got offended over a damn joke.
About Jovan's death - you might be right. I had multible sources that said that he died in battle, others that said that he got assasinated. I should've included both claims of Jovan's death instead of just saying one. I'm sorry for that.
@@Globeraphy oh no, im not offended by that he was nothing near an emperor, he was pretty much a commander, but he was a big historical character and the whole idea of Vojvodina came from him, if not for him it would probably be Hungary of a lot smaller than it is, however a interesting character nonetheless
We Vojvodina 💙💛💚 one & only
Vojvodina means no Serbia, no Hungary. Ok?
Hahahahahahahaha dream more
hi i am from vojvodina unfortunately :D
Why unfortunately?
You must be real rich to afford ms paint
Haha yeah
In 2022: Serbian 68,43%, Hungarian 10,48%, Roma 2,35%, Slovaks 2,29%, Croats 1,88%, Romanians 1,13%, ... There's no point for autonomy now.
118 subscribers
At least 126 now.
Very nice
I hope they will get their independence
We don't want it.
Some may say your art isn't good but don't listen to that. Im sure you will pop off big time with content just like this.
Because if it becomes independant serbia and montenegro are gonna die from hunger meanwhile Vojvodina would be the riches country in the Europe. Perfect geography and very calm and united people with 3 religions in the aria. Serbian Orthodox church, Hungarian-Croat Chatholic church and Romanian Church. Today they have a lot of independance on everything. Most notably is the schoolarship. I would mostly say all the diferances invovled are there to make up for different religions. When i used to go to school i always admired how long there holidays are hehe due to covering both christmasses.
I am from southern Belgrade aka more in Central Serbia but i really enjoy visiting Vojvodina. Lifestyle is completely different. Without Subotica and Hungarians i dont think i would be ever able to get all the tech stuff so cheap from Europe
This is a really weird post, must be trolling. Vojvodina is half an hour away by train from Belgrade and there are people commuting between both everyday. But you talk as if they were in separate continents.
when will you do Republika Srpska
I have a lot of ideas written down, Srpska being one of them. I will make a video about it, but not sure when
when new vid
Probably in March or April.
Sorry for my horrible estimation skills lol
@@Globeraphyplz come back
sam o nella ? {good video btw hehr}
nice
Its same with Kosovo
If you're not swedish then I'm a 90 year old black guy from Tanzania
Nice to see 90 year old black guys from Tanzania watching my videos!
(You were close, I'm from Norway)
I'm from vojvodina, I don't want to seperate from Serbia since I am Serbian
ayo new sam o nella vid lookin kinda wierd
Vojvodina is Hungary 🇭🇺🦅🇦🇱
a small correction:
Kosovo and Vojvodina got autonomy in order for the Serbs to get more votes in Yugoslavia.This is partly to blame for the collapse of Yugoslavia, as the Serbs always had more control.
Ne seri.
It was completely opposite. Reason why they got autonomy was to weaken Serbia inside of Yugoslavia. Why didn't they make autonomy for parts of Bosnia or Croatia since they were much more ethnically divided then Serbia?
Literally opposite. Yugoslavia was anti Serbian.
@@makiendzoua8390 lmao Serbian detected. Ugrožena vam guzica debili jedni...
@@muha0644 Divna je bila ta vElIKa SrBiJa zvana Jugoslavija gdje su Srbi bili diskriminisani i gdje se radili na pravljenju lažnih identiteta koji se zasnivaju na mržnji prema srpstvu.
But hold on, I thought diversity was our strength!
Војводина је Србија
I have never disputed this
It is for now. Historically it has never been Serbian except when allies gifted it in 1918. Every argument Serbs use for Kosovo claim, Hungarians have an even stronger claim to Vojvodina.
@@horvatlovren7198 no
@@horvatlovren7198 "Horvat" lmao
Vojvodina is Vojvodina 💙💛💚
I live there.
I do not know why we are Autonomous, but Serbia is better than independence