I'm still a bit confused on the dsp cables thing. So if you A-B the Dusk with the dsp cable vs a regular cable but EQ'd using the values you got from Crin, will they sound exactly the same with the same imaging, staging etc...? Theoretically the DSP cable should not change those aspects but can you confirm whether thats actually the case?
@@jonathanraecrisanto5912 just get a nice dongle, and use squiglink to get the eq presets applied to the tuning of other iem you already own. Then any app with eq will get you there. (better use an iem with a close enough tuning ot the dusk - and good treble on its own if possible - so you only do minor adjustments vs huge ones and try not to mess with the treble too much) Really can't see the revoltuon here. If only the software was good...
Best dusk review so far, not because it is positive but because you explain very clearly all the pros and cons and it is always very clear which mode you are talking about (analog or DSP). I see other reviewers nitpicking too much on the things they do not like and completely ignoring all the things the Dusk is doing very well, leaving a really bad impression to us, the viewers who had not had a chance to listen them yet. Thanks for the review! I really enjoyed it 😊.
Fully agree with you. I've no idea why some reviewers like to keep saying bad things about the product they reviewed. I personally think whether the sound performance of an audio product is good or bad very depends on personal taste and preference. If possible, I honestly think the best way to pick your favorite audiophile products is to try them out before buying
The DSP makes it a huge dealbreaker for me. I have a really nice desktop setup and a DAP when I go portable. I dont feel like being punished for spending time and money on gear that won't even make these IEMs sound their best. I don't want to be handcuffed to a DSP cable to have the IEMs sound their best. I also dont want to mess with EQ to simulate the DSP, should the app or cable have issues. This is not a good precedent that is being set, IMO.
It comes with a 3.5mm cable. Not sure what you mean? Your suggestion is that Moondrop should sell an analog only version a bit cheaper? Good idea... But at the same time, you know the Free DSP cable is 30$ right? It sometimes goes on sale for cheaper than that. Also, the moondrop app was already developed before this came out...
Yeah, I just programmed the DSP settings for the default and the V settings into the parametric EQ in USB Audio Player Pro and I am using the analog cable. I'll use the DSP cable in some cases, because it's fine, but I think overall I prefer a better DAC and also not the Moondrop app.
Timmy you've outdone yourself giving us the wavelet files, thank you. On the analog cable, to me it's just silly, they could have added the cable that the Aria 2 comes out with, how can the Aria 2 share a cable with Dark Saber and the Dusk not?
Dsp will become a nightmare. Because it needs an app any company can stop updating it or even change the terms of how it works. Also they may require you to have a data connection and collect your data. Hope they have a universal config file you can edit with any pc or phone without manufacture app.
Instead of a microphone and play control buttons on the DSP cable, I would prefer there to be a small programmable memory chip with some manual switches where you can put different eq profiles on there. You won’t catch me relying on a jank app for eq’s.
@TFWandyzilla yeah I use those as well. I'm concerned that somehow dsp will become proprietary. And possibly get locked down. Also limit what cable you can use. Time will tell.
@@rickoneill4343 this is so funny since the only proprietary is the tuning. meanwhile the open source dsp is more than enough for the next 20 years. unless youre a 30 bands addict.
nice review as usual. BRAVO for Wavelet sound profiles !. BTW On Samsung phones there is Sound Assistant app (from Samsung App library), that enables very granular Sound Vol control, up to 64 steps...
For those afraid of the "need to use DSP" I think the big thing to keep in mind here is that, as Timmy has said, utilizing wavelet, Equalizer APO, Steelseries Sonar, etc. you can apply the same PEQ settings that the DSP uses, effectively granting you the same sound signatures on analog and freedom to choose your own DAC/AMP. While some don't like the analog default signature, Crincacle has gone on record stating it was the result of direct intention to weed out the peak in the lower treble that is present on the previous blessings and dusks by using the new planar tweeters. Obviously if you've already got some sick mid-tier earbuds you're happy with, these may not be nearly as appetizing to non-collectors, but personally as someone entering the mid-tier iem market I've been very happy with the Dusks and use PEQ religiously... A tip to anyone out there, the Steelseries Sonar Punchy preset sounds insanely good on these iem's. Don't have the values on me but they can obviously be transferred over into any PEQ of your choice too! Buy Dusk.
i was ready to buy this first day it dropped for preorder but all i hear is people hating it or loving it(with dsp). as i would only be using it analog do i pass and just get variations?
but Timmy if I’ve still been loving my Moondrop S8 over the last 3 years, is this different enough to get despite being way cheaper and a different driver configuration. Curious your thoughts having tried and loved both!
So im never using the dsp cable since I'm always using my iems with my quadelix. And if i want to use the profiles. I can just use eq in the quadelix and add those there.
I'm curious how these compare to the Variations. I've been enjoying them for a couple weeks now. I haven't listened to the Blessing 2 in a while but the variations remind of that minus the shoutiness and way more sub bass. The dusk price is awfully close to the variations, the diminishing returns are real.
My biggest question is QC, my Blessing 2 lasted a year before the left channel went out, my Blessing 3 lasted about 4 months before the left channel went out; is there a better quality control with the colab?
Thank you Timmy!! for the breakdown of the various EQs! but can you keep the dsp eq saved on the cable? For example if you settled on the dsp default. Can you keep the eq setting without the app (if moondrop stops supporting it in the future or the buggy app is just annoying) or even if you switch to the an iphone from android?
I hesitate between them and the blessing 3, it would be for video game use (Valorant especially) and pop/r&b/hip hop/uk garage style music, the bass would give the advantage in music for dusk but for video games I would say the blessing 3s are above, what do you think?
as a oracle mk1 owner and fan i can not wait for my dusk to come in the mail. the oracle sounds amazing but is too large for my ears so it gets uncomfortable after some time the dusk has a very comparable sound signature so i am looking forward to comparing the 2 also i love how moondrop combined the dd and planar in the may so i think this will be awesome. Note i did tune the may to my oracle in the dsp which gave a very similar vibe
7:21 all those have 14khz corrections …i use the same with my trn kirin on Equalizer APO, there is so much airyness, foward cymbals and hi hats, less body, foward harmonics
Nice video. I recently started to look for a pair of IEMs and landed on your channel. Your videos have a lot of information (maybe to many for a noob like me that doesn't know anything about sound besides if I listen to them and say if they sound good or not) thank you for that, and yes I know every person has diferent hearing tastes. I don't know which one to get yet and can not test them anywhere, however I have 2-3 in mind for general use like general gaming and racing games, also for work, music and maybe for movies too. One brand that I heard already a few times in my region and haven't seen them in your channel is the brand Hörluchs. Do you know them? Would it be possible for you to review one or a few pairs of them? Anyway thank you a lot for all the infos and keep up the work
No, you don't. He literally explained it in the video. Crin has released all the EQ values for the profiles so you can EQ it yourself using a normal cable. You just need to use EQ software like walelet / Equaliser APO
I want to try this and like it... Was all in until I looked into the app and saw that it a) requires a sideload and b) can only get those signatures by using USB-C DSP cable and the app. Given that and the aggressive push, this feels more like a way to socialize skimming data from users as much as promotion for a great IEM.
Got ifi go blu and last month upgraded from moondrop starfield 1 to yanyin canon 2. Is it worth getting these later on or yanyin is just better? Should we see review other iems now with dsp because are reviews fair now that one iem is reviewed with eq and others at stock? For me i glued clip to ifi go blu and wear it cliped close to heart pocket because it's easy to adjust volume switch songs or pause. Having cable go to my pocket with mobile i would find very anoying when i'm busy enviroment like city center or public transport. DSP maybe be a future but not pluged in to mobile. I think i will wait for other companies to do it better.
Hi! came across your video and find it incredibly helpful. As I'm stuck in between getting Aria 2 or going all out to get new Crinacle DUSK as my first IEM, i plan to use it for music and gaming most of the time. Any advice on which should i get? thanks alot in advance!
Goat activity on wavelet files. Btw how would you compare it to higher prices IEM's like Dunu SA6's and etc? Kinda in the fence about which on to buy 🥴
I take it that if you had something like USB Audio Player Pro with the Morphit PEQ that you could just copy those EQ profiles and create your own analog presets and they would sound the same played with a regular phone DAC/AMP and you could then just throw the cable and its app away? Amirite?
@@Gizaudio not meant to be an insult btw, I know that Sennheiser has a +/-1,5db tolerance for most of their headphones for example. That is already pretty strict in their opinion and could still result in a very different sound signature per unit for audiophiles. That's why I would love to know more infos like these about other brands.
Probably because the DUSK is bass heavy and focus on the "fun" side of sound, rather than beeing studio level accurate. So if you are into bass and you don't care about studio level accuracy, then the Dusk is the best IEM in the market right now (even better than the likes of oBravo ra).
Wanting to get IEMs for my pc and saw these and started to look up reviews... very glad I saw one of your videos way back and recognized you bc the whole reason I was thinking I didn't want these was bc of the app and not being able to have the presets on my pc.... now I can... and now there is a $359 hole in my wallet 💀
I like to listen to all sorts of genre which iem would be better between Tanchjim origin and moondrop dusk for a better balanced and neutral sound signature
Not optimal, but maybe use an Android emulator to set your DSP once to your preferred mode. Avoiding data privacy concerns or if you are non-android user.
i just bought the sony xwhatver 5 tws, and i cant sleep on it, i just want to be able to sleep with my headphone, or at least relaxing how you people use your iem? sitting in front of your pc , working out , or while you are lying flat ? and when aswell ?
sweet. for everyone that wanted to use the presets as a starting point we have the info now. you cannot tweak the preset in the app. hope the attention on the dsp gets them to get some app programmers. how long before expensive dac cables now as well?
Really excited to finally try a Dusk by Crinacle! Though, I was curious, for the signature change, is this like EQ, where once you change it in the app, the sound signature change will remain while you use the Dusk on your pc?
Good thing we all bought our preferred dacs and amps, now we get to bypass all that good hardware to use the world's crappiest dac/amp buried in a cable that only works on Android devices and we have to sideload an app that asks for sketchy permissions and barely works to get the "best" result. for almost $400? Nah, I pass. Keep shilling tho Tiimmy, I'm sure you are banking on our backs.
Maybe stupid question: if you use the analogue cable with an amp, can you still use the app and still use the PEQ settings? Still the bass boost, harman, etc. ?
Please try to get a demo of the Alpha/Omega: OMEGA. I have stopped using the rest of my collection (26) others including the Elysian Annihilator 2023! It just makes everything else sound dull.
I have B2 and i love it for gaming but I’m looking for an improvment because i think it gets overwhelming when in action , do you recommend it ? If not what should i look into ?
I mean i would never use b2 for gaming but ye something with upper midrange like this would definitely help. Honestly spending this much for just a gaming iem is still crazy.
DUSK's default DSP tuning is better, imo. I could provide you with EQ to emulate that. It's gonna be VERY close until 16 kHz. DUSK should have smaller nozzles, so that may be a big pro. Would sure be for me, but I'm not eager to get them due to some upper treble quirkiness.
@@Gizaudio iam using with Poweramp EQ a Tuning from Oracle 1 superreviewer and it Sounds brilliant so Natural i cant make Up If its Reality or not its a surreal experience does that even make Sense using other iem Tunings. The Oracle has a similiar 1 DD + 2 BA + 2 EST could you try it Out If IT Sounds similiar to the Oracle 1? Iam using the dunu s and s tips with Thruthear Shio and Samsung Galaxy s10.
@@juanblanco7898 yeah its pretty good the Soundstage is so clear and high quality you dont recognize it as a artificial sound its my First EST iem but i dont want to Miss it to be honest
@@juanblanco7898 i dont think i will need another iem from that price maybe the Oracle to See If that works Out If Nobody wants to Help me Out on this subject.
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You can get wavelet files I made here!
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nST9NY9GY5GjwyvyDaVnI0qedH-BGNe8?usp=sharing
Nice! No need for the DSP cable
I'm still a bit confused on the dsp cables thing. So if you A-B the Dusk with the dsp cable vs a regular cable but EQ'd using the values you got from Crin, will they sound exactly the same with the same imaging, staging etc...?
Theoretically the DSP cable should not change those aspects but can you confirm whether thats actually the case?
DSP is basically EQ. So if you do EQ yourself it'll give the exact same result as EQ applied with the DSP cable.
@@jonathanraecrisanto5912 just get a nice dongle, and use squiglink to get the eq presets applied to the tuning of other iem you already own. Then any app with eq will get you there. (better use an iem with a close enough tuning ot the dusk - and good treble on its own if possible - so you only do minor adjustments vs huge ones and try not to mess with the treble too much) Really can't see the revoltuon here. If only the software was good...
Do wavelet works with ifi go blu?
Timmy. You put wavelet files out there for people to use in analog? You are a GOAT!
Omfg they work!!
Timmy I fucking love you!!!!
No homo
Best dusk review so far, not because it is positive but because you explain very clearly all the pros and cons and it is always very clear which mode you are talking about (analog or DSP). I see other reviewers nitpicking too much on the things they do not like and completely ignoring all the things the Dusk is doing very well, leaving a really bad impression to us, the viewers who had not had a chance to listen them yet. Thanks for the review! I really enjoyed it 😊.
Thank you!! 😊
Fully agree with you. I've no idea why some reviewers like to keep saying bad things about the product they reviewed. I personally think whether the sound performance of an audio product is good or bad very depends on personal taste and preference. If possible, I honestly think the best way to pick your favorite audiophile products is to try them out before buying
That moondrop app is horrible, it requires permission to access your photos, mic ,camera and location to launch, seems like a privacy red flag.
I was concern about this too honestly. It was one of the motivation behind the wavelets.
@@GizaudioWhat were the other motivations?
Relying on a chifi-developed app to get great sound is pretty comical
Not like they are gonna do anything with it lol. Better having your data stolen by CCP than by your own government.
@jackalneck I just hate the DSP experience overall and the app makes it worst. So I thought it'd be nice to just not use DSP at all.
Thanks a bunch for those wavelet files. That's sick af
The DSP makes it a huge dealbreaker for me. I have a really nice desktop setup and a DAP when I go portable. I dont feel like being punished for spending time and money on gear that won't even make these IEMs sound their best. I don't want to be handcuffed to a DSP cable to have the IEMs sound their best. I also dont want to mess with EQ to simulate the DSP, should the app or cable have issues. This is not a good precedent that is being set, IMO.
It comes with a 3.5mm cable. Not sure what you mean?
Your suggestion is that Moondrop should sell an analog only version a bit cheaper?
Good idea... But at the same time, you know the Free DSP cable is 30$ right? It sometimes goes on sale for cheaper than that.
Also, the moondrop app was already developed before this came out...
complete nonsense. please read the details on the retailer's website.
@@1337sim1he means that he doesn't want to be locked into using the usb cable to make the iem sound the best.
Nothing to do with the price.
Exactly! It doesn’t sound good without the dsp
@@shaunbrady15 Jimmy liked the analog tuning. What makes you say this? 🤔
The battle of 300+ usd: Dunu Da Vinci vs Hype 4 vs Studio 4 vs Dusk
300 for IEM? Really? Better buy PARA.
@@VM9999-x2kCan't really compare an IEM to an open back over ear, it's a totally different use case.
@@VM9999-x2ktoo shouty.
Yeah, I just programmed the DSP settings for the default and the V settings into the parametric EQ in USB Audio Player Pro and I am using the analog cable. I'll use the DSP cable in some cases, because it's fine, but I think overall I prefer a better DAC and also not the Moondrop app.
Can you confirm that the EQ'ed DSP default on Player Pro sounds the same as using the DSP (on default)?
@@NelsonMichael yes. My phone's DAC has filters that make the audio a bit more spacious but the tuning is dead even.
Thanks for your input, I am so totally looking forward to being able to pick these up.
Timmy you've outdone yourself giving us the wavelet files, thank you. On the analog cable, to me it's just silly, they could have added the cable that the Aria 2 comes out with, how can the Aria 2 share a cable with Dark Saber and the Dusk not?
Many thanks for finding out what happens if my DSP cable gets lost or broken. I was wondering that myself. Also Duy Busk
I really appreciate all the info about various presets and comparison between each. I use EQ on most IEMs, so that will come in handy.
Dsp will become a nightmare. Because it needs an app any company can stop updating it or even change the terms of how it works. Also they may require you to have a data connection and collect your data. Hope they have a universal config file you can edit with any pc or phone without manufacture app.
Instead of a microphone and play control buttons on the DSP cable, I would prefer there to be a small programmable memory chip with some manual switches where you can put different eq profiles on there. You won’t catch me relying on a jank app for eq’s.
We have that, it's Wavelet on Android and Equilizer APO on windows :D
@TFWandyzilla yeah I use those as well. I'm concerned that somehow dsp will become proprietary. And possibly get locked down. Also limit what cable you can use. Time will tell.
r1327 this would be great for sure and I'm sure some will implement exactly this.
@@rickoneill4343 this is so funny since the only proprietary is the tuning. meanwhile the open source dsp is more than enough for the next 20 years. unless youre a 30 bands addict.
As a qudelix user thinking about a dusk, putting up the eq settings i had to press the thumbs up button twice 😄
Would trade that dsp cable for 4.4 mm bal any day of the week
nice review as usual. BRAVO for Wavelet sound profiles !.
BTW On Samsung phones there is Sound Assistant app (from Samsung App library), that enables very granular Sound Vol control, up to 64 steps...
i agree that they need to be shown progressively, but in my perspective this approach not benefitting me, it benefits the devices owners
Coool! You still have the SSP box 0:25
Never throw a waifu away
For those afraid of the "need to use DSP"
I think the big thing to keep in mind here is that, as Timmy has said, utilizing wavelet, Equalizer APO, Steelseries Sonar, etc. you can apply the same PEQ settings that the DSP uses, effectively granting you the same sound signatures on analog and freedom to choose your own DAC/AMP.
While some don't like the analog default signature, Crincacle has gone on record stating it was the result of direct intention to weed out the peak in the lower treble that is present on the previous blessings and dusks by using the new planar tweeters.
Obviously if you've already got some sick mid-tier earbuds you're happy with, these may not be nearly as appetizing to non-collectors, but personally as someone entering the mid-tier iem market I've been very happy with the Dusks and use PEQ religiously...
A tip to anyone out there, the Steelseries Sonar Punchy preset sounds insanely good on these iem's. Don't have the values on me but they can obviously be transferred over into any PEQ of your choice too!
Buy Dusk.
i was ready to buy this first day it dropped for preorder but all i hear is people hating it or loving it(with dsp). as i would only be using it analog do i pass and just get variations?
but Timmy if I’ve still been loving my Moondrop S8 over the last 3 years, is this different enough to get despite being way cheaper and a different driver configuration. Curious your thoughts having tried and loved both!
Looking forward to getting mine. I expect a lot of used IEMs flooding the market, as this will replace many more expensive sets.
So im never using the dsp cable since I'm always using my iems with my quadelix. And if i want to use the profiles. I can just use eq in the quadelix and add those there.
I'll wait for 2 months so the hype dies dies down and true reviews start coming out
Based
Smart man
yeah fkin sucks iem also fkin crincle sucks should at least 100 bucks only price
The problem is that they will be sold out by then and it won't get restocked, just like many previous collab iems like B2Dusk and kinda lava.
@@casanova9227😂
How does it compare to the Origin? ❤
Choo choo the hype train has left the station
How do you compare the Moondrop Dusk with the Moondrop S8, Timmy? Which one do you think it's superior?
i really wanna know this too
I'm curious how these compare to the Variations. I've been enjoying them for a couple weeks now. I haven't listened to the Blessing 2 in a while but the variations remind of that minus the shoutiness and way more sub bass. The dusk price is awfully close to the variations, the diminishing returns are real.
I'm curious as well
My biggest question is QC, my Blessing 2 lasted a year before the left channel went out, my Blessing 3 lasted about 4 months before the left channel went out; is there a better quality control with the colab?
Man that's unfortunate, what are you doing with you IEMs 💀
@@ANOLE_VX Using them and taking as best of care of them as I can (regularly cleaning, etc). Probably just have a really gross left ear haha
thanks for the eq info =)
Thank you Timmy!! for the breakdown of the various EQs! but can you keep the dsp eq saved on the cable? For example if you settled on the dsp default. Can you keep the eq setting without the app (if moondrop stops supporting it in the future or the buggy app is just annoying) or even if you switch to the an iphone from android?
I hesitate between them and the blessing 3, it would be for video game use (Valorant especially) and pop/r&b/hip hop/uk garage style music, the bass would give the advantage in music for dusk but for video games I would say the blessing 3s are above, what do you think?
Or have u an other recommandation for me pls
as a oracle mk1 owner and fan i can not wait for my dusk to come in the mail.
the oracle sounds amazing but is too large for my ears so it gets uncomfortable after some time
the dusk has a very comparable sound signature so i am looking forward to comparing the 2
also i love how moondrop combined the dd and planar in the may so i think this will be awesome.
Note i did tune the may to my oracle in the dsp which gave a very similar vibe
7:21 all those have 14khz corrections …i use the same with my trn kirin on Equalizer APO, there is so much airyness, foward cymbals and hi hats, less body, foward harmonics
Nice video. I recently started to look for a pair of IEMs and landed on your channel. Your videos have a lot of information (maybe to many for a noob like me that doesn't know anything about sound besides if I listen to them and say if they sound good or not) thank you for that, and yes I know every person has diferent hearing tastes. I don't know which one to get yet and can not test them anywhere, however I have 2-3 in mind for general use like general gaming and racing games, also for work, music and maybe for movies too. One brand that I heard already a few times in my region and haven't seen them in your channel is the brand Hörluchs. Do you know them? Would it be possible for you to review one or a few pairs of them?
Anyway thank you a lot for all the infos and keep up the work
Waiting for 2 years finally paid off. Now to wait another year so I can save up for it.
But u have to use the usbc shit to get the performance?
It's a product. If it's not for you don't buy it. It will sell well with or without you.
No, you don't. He literally explained it in the video. Crin has released all the EQ values for the profiles so you can EQ it yourself using a normal cable. You just need to use EQ software like walelet / Equaliser APO
Yes, the regular 3.5 is not good
@@augustoalvarez6766 whats wrong with you bro
@@jashonwestbrook3362 nothing. you?
I want to try this and like it... Was all in until I looked into the app and saw that it a) requires a sideload and b) can only get those signatures by using USB-C DSP cable and the app.
Given that and the aggressive push, this feels more like a way to socialize skimming data from users as much as promotion for a great IEM.
technically you can just get your favourite profile on the cable, delete the app and be done. It just makes switching profiles a pain.
Got ifi go blu and last month upgraded from moondrop starfield 1 to yanyin canon 2. Is it worth getting these later on or yanyin is just better? Should we see review other iems now with dsp because are reviews fair now that one iem is reviewed with eq and others at stock?
For me i glued clip to ifi go blu and wear it cliped close to heart pocket because it's easy to adjust volume switch songs or pause. Having cable go to my pocket with mobile i would find very anoying when i'm busy enviroment like city center or public transport. DSP maybe be a future but not pluged in to mobile. I think i will wait for other companies to do it better.
How would you say it compares with the S8? Should I care about it if I have the S8?
Hi! came across your video and find it incredibly helpful. As I'm stuck in between getting Aria 2 or going all out to get new Crinacle DUSK as my first IEM, i plan to use it for music and gaming most of the time. Any advice on which should i get? thanks alot in advance!
Nice ! I was waiting for this video
Great review Sir! thank you.
Goat activity on wavelet files. Btw how would you compare it to higher prices IEM's like Dunu SA6's and etc? Kinda in the fence about which on to buy 🥴
Hi Timmy, do u think more dsp profiles will be added in the future?
I take it that if you had something like USB Audio Player Pro with the Morphit PEQ that you could just copy those EQ profiles and create your own analog presets and they would sound the same played with a regular phone DAC/AMP and you could then just throw the cable and its app away? Amirite?
Hello, love the content. Would these be good for gaming? Specifically Escape from Tarkov?
I also think this is the new benchmark to totally obliterate small ears :')))
I would love to know moondrops unit variation regulations from the factory and if reviewers got golden samples or not.
Lol nope. You can ask Super Review this
@@Gizaudio not meant to be an insult btw, I know that Sennheiser has a +/-1,5db tolerance for most of their headphones for example. That is already pretty strict in their opinion and could still result in a very different sound signature per unit for audiophiles. That's why I would love to know more infos like these about other brands.
Why are some people saying this is okay and some people saying it’s the best thing ever lol, i’ve never seen this much split opinion on an IEM
It's because people tend to like different types of things, people have different tastes.
Different taste, ear anatomy, age (affect hearing issue), etc
@@hexadx I get that i’m just saying i’ve never seen it to this extent
You don't actually have to know the cut someone might get...
Probably because the DUSK is bass heavy and focus on the "fun" side of sound, rather than beeing studio level accurate. So if you are into bass and you don't care about studio level accuracy, then the Dusk is the best IEM in the market right now (even better than the likes of oBravo ra).
Great review! That you tried these for gaming?
Wanting to get IEMs for my pc and saw these and started to look up reviews... very glad I saw one of your videos way back and recognized you bc the whole reason I was thinking I didn't want these was bc of the app and not being able to have the presets on my pc.... now I can... and now there is a $359 hole in my wallet 💀
I like to listen to all sorts of genre which iem would be better between Tanchjim origin and moondrop dusk for a better balanced and neutral sound signature
Hello! Is there an EQ app for iPhone that you recommend to insert the wavelets easily?
I also have this question. Probably its a no go for iphone users. Need to to borrow someone's android to set them.
Time to get a Qudelix 5K
how this compare with studio 4?
No support for iOS and janky app. No thanks.
Not optimal, but maybe use an Android emulator to set your DSP once to your preferred mode. Avoiding data privacy concerns or if you are non-android user.
Hello from Thailand! I am deciding between the Dusk and Varitions. Could you please help recommend?
i just bought the sony xwhatver 5 tws, and i cant sleep on it, i just want to be able to sleep with my headphone, or at least relaxing
how you people use your iem? sitting in front of your pc , working out , or while you are lying flat ?
and when aswell ?
Thanks a bunch for the settings! So do I just dial these in via Peace EQ on the desktop?
kinda hope this doesnt ruin ur own iem release soon
I have no idea how to put the eq value on uapp app.
Analog bell
High shelf
Dont know. Dusk defaul you need only to put 3 value?
sweet. for everyone that wanted to use the presets as a starting point we have the info now. you cannot tweak the preset in the app. hope the attention on the dsp gets them to get some app programmers. how long before expensive dac cables now as well?
Dusk or Hype 4?
Really excited to finally try a Dusk by Crinacle! Though, I was curious, for the signature change, is this like EQ, where once you change it in the app, the sound signature change will remain while you use the Dusk on your pc?
Once changed to a preset in the app, the dsp cable remembers the settings and will sound the same on your pc.
Great review
Thanks man!
Any recomendations for any other iems around the same price point? Just getting into the hobby so not sure whats out there
please add it to ur iem list ranking bro
I'd buy it immediately but my USB C port is loose so DSP cuts out audio lol, feels bad
How do u have such nice hair.... We need a vid on that 😂
finally, wanted to wait for this review, bought it anyway cuz i just didnt find anything negative (except perhaps the cable(s))
How those compare against Variations?
If FOMO hasn't hit me hard yet, then this might be my biggest hurdle to overcome...
i hope someone see this, what would be a good upgrade to the truthear hexa but with similar sound signature ( i love how the hexa sounds )
EPZ Q1 Pro
not sure tbh the new dusk with eq or like nova but with a green dampener for mids ba and ea is what im considering
@@Rsalmond83nah that has a bigger treble peak and 3db more around 1.5-3khz and 5db more around 4.5khz
hi timmy, i would appreciate it if you added the dusk to your squiglink
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Can you make a wavelet preset for the original b3 to the dusk
The EPZ X TIPSY is even more close to the midrange of the Oracle
Good thing we all bought our preferred dacs and amps, now we get to bypass all that good hardware to use the world's crappiest dac/amp buried in a cable that only works on Android devices and we have to sideload an app that asks for sketchy permissions and barely works to get the "best" result. for almost $400? Nah, I pass. Keep shilling tho Tiimmy, I'm sure you are banking on our backs.
You can download the eq presets that you can apply to your DAP
Yes, it dusk sounds amazing
i have the fiio fh5 is this worth the upgrade and is the sound signature similar?
Maybe stupid question: if you use the analogue cable with an amp, can you still use the app and still use the PEQ settings? Still the bass boost, harman, etc. ?
No, not with the moondrop app. You'd have to install wavelet on your phone or Equilizer APO in you're on desktop and apply the EQ files I made.
Chopin or Dusk?!? If you can only have one…
Please try to get a demo of the Alpha/Omega: OMEGA. I have stopped using the rest of my collection (26) others including the Elysian Annihilator 2023! It just makes everything else sound dull.
I have B2 and i love it for gaming but I’m looking for an improvment because i think it gets overwhelming when in action , do you recommend it ? If not what should i look into ?
I mean i would never use b2 for gaming but ye something with upper midrange like this would definitely help. Honestly spending this much for just a gaming iem is still crazy.
Do you think that if I get this, it’s redundant if I already have the Moondrop Variations?
duy busk indeed
Hey, I own the Variations since a couple of months and I really love them.
But I know they're a little old too, would you say these are better ?? :)
DUSK's default DSP tuning is better, imo. I could provide you with EQ to emulate that. It's gonna be VERY close until 16 kHz.
DUSK should have smaller nozzles, so that may be a big pro. Would sure be for me, but I'm not eager to get them due to some upper treble quirkiness.
I lost my cable already, and i dont know how to use the wavelit files😢, on pc or on my phone, what a nightmare, plz help
You can input the value in the video into the moondrop app in the "PEQ" tab
how can you input 14000 hz on the app? it can only goes to 10000 on my app
Reviews of analog goes all over the place. Couldn’t care less about dsp
They should have just made it good out of the box. This is only listenable with the dsp. Pass for me
Do you need DAC for it?
Can you give us the instructions on how to install the wavelet files into the app?
Just import the (.txt) file
I'm so salty i just bought the Blessing 3 now i want the Dusk too
Great review Timmy! Thanks for the wavelets!
Variations still better on vocals?
Female vocals I still think so if you prioritize liveliness
@@Gizaudio iam using with Poweramp EQ a Tuning from Oracle 1 superreviewer and it Sounds brilliant so Natural i cant make Up If its Reality or not its a surreal experience does that even make Sense using other iem Tunings. The Oracle has a similiar 1 DD + 2 BA + 2 EST could you try it Out If IT Sounds similiar to the Oracle 1? Iam using the dunu s and s tips with Thruthear Shio and Samsung Galaxy s10.
@@Daniel-lq5qq Yeah, it does make sense. To a certain point. Your own impressions also clearly indicate that. You're liking it, right?
@@juanblanco7898 yeah its pretty good the Soundstage is so clear and high quality you dont recognize it as a artificial sound its my First EST iem but i dont want to Miss it to be honest
@@juanblanco7898 i dont think i will need another iem from that price maybe the Oracle to See If that works Out If Nobody wants to Help me Out on this subject.
If one has B3 is Dusk worth it?
One of the hardest passes for me in recent times.
How does the Dusk compare to the Aful P5?
Or the Dunu SA6 MKII
Your link to DACs just provide a massive list. Do you have a link to something more specific?
I guess the link is broken now. It was suppose to link to Topping A90 /D90 Stack
@@Gizaudio thank you