Semiconductor Fabrication Basics - DIY Homemade NMOS FET/MOSFET/Transistor Step by Step

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  • @hungryazhn
    @hungryazhn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +626

    Do you realize that 99% of electrical engineering students graduate with a degree and never see this?

    • @stefanvandijk7114
      @stefanvandijk7114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Unfortunately yes. Even people with a Master degree in Media technologie doesn't know on micro level how a transistor works. I think thats fundamental to know everything of technologie today.

    • @almuhanadahmedsaidalhashmi4696
      @almuhanadahmedsaidalhashmi4696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thanks god I'm in the 1% of them🤗

    • @aimless3827
      @aimless3827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sad story. i watched this and learned to make one for fun but never have a chance to get in an electric engineer programs.

    • @ahand4824
      @ahand4824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm not an electrical engineering student, but I like electronics

    • @PauloConstantino167
      @PauloConstantino167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      That's because this is not part of electrical engineering. This type of thing is part of process engineering, chemistry, and material science. Of course this guy has hacked a transistor together in a cool way, but the actual science of this is beyond EE.

  • @hosseinsanaye
    @hosseinsanaye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    This video is ground breaking in the field of semiconductor fabrication to me. I've never thought of it as a possible DIY process. And surely the great explanation and deep understanding of what is the aim of every single step, makes it much more interesting to watch.
    Great Job Sam

    • @vaio232
      @vaio232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      diy process's are underestimated, one day bill gates did the same diy thing

    • @atari7001
      @atari7001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you thought that was cool, watch this guy make some very well crafted homebrew retro-tech (vacuum tubes):
      th-cam.com/video/EzyXMEpq4qw/w-d-xo.html

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vaio232 Gates stole his code.

    • @albrix5
      @albrix5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@axeman2638 he didn't steal anything. Xerox PARC was open for everyone to see, and he gave Kildall an opportunity to get with IBM with his CP/M, it wasn't until Kildall missed it that he adapted it into DOS.

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albrix5 ok fanboy.

  • @kateiry4719
    @kateiry4719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This dude: Homemade
    *Your home is so cool*

    • @whatamievendoing
      @whatamievendoing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Certainly the coolest home I've ever seen

  • @alexkart9239
    @alexkart9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think, you should make more videos about DIY semiconductors. Many people want to see the stuff like this.

  • @Niohimself
    @Niohimself 7 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    I'm a nanotechnology student. One day I wish to make some DIY transistors at home and your video is a great inspiration :)

    • @SciHeartJourney
      @SciHeartJourney 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Send me a message! I'd like to try myself. I started my own company. I don't think I can post company info here though.

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SciHeartJourney I'm working on designing some processes involved in cheaper mass fabrication of semiconductors and solid state ionics (ion batteries for example) in a more efficient and compact form factor than conventional methods. If you might be interested in some collaboration work let me know.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lazyh-online4839 You might just want to throw your ion battery projects away, sincerely, if i were to push for some ion battery i'd use hot plasma in a termoentropic motor, can you imagine the energy levels you can get from that... if you're dispersing heat anyway that's the best source.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lazyh-online4839 I'm patenting the greatest power source humanity has ever seen, it uses global warming as a power source (no TEC or stirling shit) and it's made with 100% recyclable materials, damn i'm considering buying ethereum miners running on this system on a remote location just to multiply my money so that i can have money to buy more land.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lazyh-online4839 btw my system has nothing to do with my plasma suggestion above, my system covers static power storage and generation, but if i would want a car battery in the size of a smartphone with a high amount of power the "easiest" way would be to use a plasma because the plasma amount of power can break almost any chemical bond, if any day humanity can control amounts of power with that high level of density we will certainly need to countain plasma.

  • @REVOLUTIONS51
    @REVOLUTIONS51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So nice! This year I'm having a basic "electronic components fundamentals" course at college kept by a professor that used to do semiconductor research in the 80', it's so fascinating to see all the amazing processes he describes with nostalgia remade (with many simplification because it's not a university lab but who cares) by a new passionate person investing his energy in such an amazing field

  • @edinfific2576
    @edinfific2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    2 and a half years later, and this video has only 36k views!? Sad!

  • @DawnOfTheComputer
    @DawnOfTheComputer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is seriously impressive work! I love seeing people push "home made" to the extreme. Especially when they're making my favorite type of active device. Whats the process like for making a GaN FET?

  • @kevin.malone
    @kevin.malone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a channel where I did tech projects, and I remember thinking I might try to make a transistor from scratch, but quickly found it would not be possible with my resources. It's insane the level of specialization and generations of scientific knowledge that this small little piece of equipment rests upon.
    If society ever collapses, I wonder that it may be impossible to ever uncover this knowledge again without multiple centuries of consistent research.

  • @KripKilla-tw9lf
    @KripKilla-tw9lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    So this man can make a computer from raw materials!

    • @RAl2O3
      @RAl2O3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      A n-type monocrystalline die is not exactly a "raw" material. This guy has really good skills anyway.

    • @Funnyfish458
      @Funnyfish458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If it was from raw materials he would synthesize his own hf and make sand into the silicon wafers

    • @seifeslimene
      @seifeslimene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Funnyfish458 then I should search for "DIY How to turn sand into silicon wafer" and "DIY How to synthesize HF"

    • @averagejoebitcoin
      @averagejoebitcoin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The HF isn’t that hard. Turning sand into a silicon wafer….lol

  • @gregorbasse
    @gregorbasse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only thing left to do is scale it down to 5 nm. Great work, glad YT recommended your videos recently.

  • @TheHouseBlog
    @TheHouseBlog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Get the word out about this channel, there should be many more views. These are some great home brew semiconductor videos, thank you for sharing your efforts!

  • @Steve-uu7yx
    @Steve-uu7yx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always wondered if it would be possible for one person to make semiconductors!
    I love how you just have a box in your fridge labeled "POISON"

  • @vaio232
    @vaio232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was looking for more info on this topic, the only other was this lab girl who did the same, but didn't explain as well as you did. thanks for the informative video.

  • @MrJakobLaichKanal
    @MrJakobLaichKanal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    big thanks for this video, I'm researching MOSFET production processes for my game that I'm developing and this is a GREAT source! :D

  • @pfrillele
    @pfrillele 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absoullute cool,did not thought this could be done at home.Thank you very much.

  • @faikharimi6224
    @faikharimi6224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Nice way to Build...many thanks to you and your efforts , times you have spent for us...we are watching you from Iraq-Kurdistan

  • @gearinguplimited2324
    @gearinguplimited2324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredible stuff - how many of us use devices and have no clue what goes into creating them. Let's have some more stuff Sam

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is awesome. All that work. It's incredible. Thank you for showing this. It makes me wonder, man, if a person could create strips of adhesive materials and just build one with layers, like lego blocks.

    • @axeman2638
      @axeman2638 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the problem is making it small.

  • @user-th7gd7ge4p
    @user-th7gd7ge4p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was under the impression that a mosfet had a source collector and a gate. now from your explanation I learn it actually has a source collector and a gay.

  • @KripKilla-tw9lf
    @KripKilla-tw9lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Sam: I’m going to make a mosfet
    Atmospheric oxygen: I’m about to ruin this mans whole career.

  • @karanpsar9176
    @karanpsar9176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude! Beautiful work!
    Get a patreon account, this deserves more attention!

  • @TheRailroad99
    @TheRailroad99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you and the YT algorithm. Another great video!
    You earned a sub!

  • @whatevernamegoeshere3644
    @whatevernamegoeshere3644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    13:12 I would seriously advice against since the fumes are crazy toxic. Also you absolutely need to mention that it cannot be stored or handled in glass because it will not only ruin your glass but it will also contaminate your process.

  • @edmondcasenas2565
    @edmondcasenas2565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video tutorial making IC chips is very helpful...

  • @Paul_Bearden
    @Paul_Bearden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good job, you are very skilled, those wafers are incredibly fragile. It is interesting how such a complex device only costs about $1.

  • @mee_is_sus
    @mee_is_sus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2017: Making transistors from scratch
    2024: Making computer processors from scratch

  • @mrsc1914
    @mrsc1914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice presentation. Your pace is excellent... With your equipment and knowledge, I am curious why/what your looking for ? or just having fun ... If I had all that stuff I would be wondering what oxides do what in what combinations to which base metals / ad nauseum ... First one which comes to mind is titanium .. its oxides have very 'energetic' properties

  • @SHRIRANGJOSHI_
    @SHRIRANGJOSHI_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I added a like immediately after he gave the warning(1:00). From the warnings, I knew this person really knows what he does.

  • @balrampillai5314
    @balrampillai5314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! What an amazing project! - just sheer determination....
    By the way at 12:33, you mentioned that water doesnt wet the wafer post the HF dip. Thats actually because the HF leaves a layer of H atoms on the surface, and that'll go away shortly after the dip.
    (This was way back in 2017, you probably know that! And HF is HF, so be careful!)

  • @VeLawrence
    @VeLawrence ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man you do a more than great job, you definitely have outsanding capacities, Thanks for sharing all this great stuff with us! Btw one question where do you find the silicon wafers? Do you think those available on ebay/Amazon can serve to start doing this? Thanks in advance!

  • @dimmiheev2542
    @dimmiheev2542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Очень познавательно. Я не ожидал что дома можно собрать транзистор.

  • @khoanguyen5805
    @khoanguyen5805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your knowleadge !!

  • @arnolz93
    @arnolz93 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Jesus fck, this is the best video I've seen. As an electronics engineering student I'm amused!

    • @overbuiltautomotive1299
      @overbuiltautomotive1299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus is great i say look into it what one learns via truth may be even a bit quantum sciences is crazy n lovenley great all is a trip this life

    • @evilseedsgrownaturally1588
      @evilseedsgrownaturally1588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      overbuilt automotive ... get help, my friend.

  • @golski4878
    @golski4878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    İ am an EE student i already have an idea on my mind how its made but still best video i have ever seen

  • @gvl610
    @gvl610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man is a real genius!

  • @whatsup4510
    @whatsup4510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an absolutely epic video

  • @zinckensteel
    @zinckensteel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It certainly looks like you've achieved gain, so it ought to work as an oscillator if you'd like to try. Congrats!

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite interesting. I wonder how many MOSFETs you could make on a wafer on that size now, having seen how much more sophisticated your processes have become.

  • @dattashantarammahale9659
    @dattashantarammahale9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no doubt to handle hazardous material their is
    standardise protocol of handballing & processing,
    nice work inspiring to upcoming talent & present professionals also thanks for such work cont., our good wishes always with you
    GD TC

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn't look like we'll see your transistors on Digikey anytime soon ;) But man, you made transistors at home!!!!!
    It was only a couple of years ago that I thought "when I was a kid, I had instructions on how to make a diode substitute... I wonder if you could make a transistor", going to various electronics forums and heard loads of people ranting "Don't be such an IDIOT! It's completely IMPOSSIBLE!" Well, I think you and Miss Ellsworth have got a thing or two to say about that "impossible".
    Watching this back to back with Ron Soyland making homemade vacuum tubes is cool... I'm beginning to think my soldering factory-made components to circuit boards is, y'know, a bit prosaic. ;)
    It's cool that you're doing this and it's fantastic that you bring us around your lab to watch. Keep up The Great Work.

  • @ieeextreme16.0nigeria7
    @ieeextreme16.0nigeria7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks sam. You are an inspiration

  • @FixDaily
    @FixDaily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video sir.
    Question: How have you soldered the wires? Conductive ink?

    • @170sac
      @170sac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a conductive silver paste I think. We use in our lab for making contacts.
      There are other ways, such as Ga-In eutectic or indium wire contact.

  • @NAANsoft
    @NAANsoft 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Demonstrating high-tech understanding of chemistry and quantum theory. And in a "kitchen" lab :-)

  • @thelonewolf1757
    @thelonewolf1757 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we do that without a lab? Instead of a furnace can we use canthal heater?

  • @iwanvanrienen6466
    @iwanvanrienen6466 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very impressive and inspiring Sam! Do you have any plans or ideas to make a metal layer on top of it to connect the individual mosfets?

    • @SamZeloof
      @SamZeloof  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, and yes I'm working on it :) Been sidetracked lately with other projects though.

    • @Starter61
      @Starter61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love your ZX81 avatar !

  • @forgetpwnow
    @forgetpwnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work

  • @xxEndermelonxx
    @xxEndermelonxx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid! Where could one find the photoresist to do this?

  • @BieAnimation
    @BieAnimation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job and awesome video!! Thanks for share knowledge

  • @aaronr.9644
    @aaronr.9644 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing stuff. Mind blown!

  • @sapthagireeshdm2383
    @sapthagireeshdm2383 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the video Sir

  • @ardecki7961
    @ardecki7961 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was amazing. What are limits of home laboratory in your opinion? Could you for example create some VERY simple processor in a couple of years?

    • @SamZeloof
      @SamZeloof  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Marek Ardecki yes, that is possible. Main limits are air particulate contamination.

  • @chlordk
    @chlordk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I went here to learn how to make a transistor with my kids. We have made resistors, coils and capacitors but this looks a little more complicated and dangerous to me. Wow.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Point contact diodes (i.e. crystal radio detectors) are pretty safe and easy though, can even look at doing a silicon carbide LED.

  • @aaronregan5061
    @aaronregan5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is great keep up the good work. Every thing is dangerous, u only live once!!

  • @ssh4804
    @ssh4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro 👍

  • @topphemlig1191
    @topphemlig1191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my this is amazing!

  • @larrybud
    @larrybud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video. 8:40, there has to be a better way to break these?

  • @1kreature
    @1kreature 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome videos and awesome skills.
    But... You should get smaller sized gloves. Makes it much easier to work when they fit.

  • @petercheung63
    @petercheung63 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am super interest, is there any private course? I can fly to USA to learn, thanks

  • @guodonglin5711
    @guodonglin5711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so clear, thank you😆

  • @mstyle2006
    @mstyle2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is ART

  • @razorbackss
    @razorbackss ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff 👌

  • @fahrettinatik1412
    @fahrettinatik1412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super mega, giga, tera good way to do mosfet, ı liked it. It is pure science 🎉

  • @user-ue8vp6fy8y
    @user-ue8vp6fy8y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thabk you for this i want to make the initial resources too. I want to mine the metal and melts it down.

  • @stalex91
    @stalex91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any demo about difference between dry and wet oxide on the gate?

  • @jozefnovak7750
    @jozefnovak7750 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super! Thank you very much!

  • @topgun4229
    @topgun4229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW !! very impressive !

  • @ExplosiveAnyThing
    @ExplosiveAnyThing 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was excellent but I think you should measure the body diode....

  • @momi5656
    @momi5656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    plz how can i dope silicon whith aluminium for p_type and antimony for n_type ?? bcs i dont have phosphor and boron ... i have just Al & Sb and thank you :-)

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had a thin and thick film clean room lab at our school. we did the etching, but the insurance companies wouldn't allow us to dope the silicon. we had the ovens and everything needed, but they still wouldn't let us dope the Si.....

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    do they make transistors with both a negative and positive gate, one on top and one on bottom?

  • @muhamadsukron9180
    @muhamadsukron9180 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good project

  • @nosuchthing4789
    @nosuchthing4789 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! :) .... Poison. Sealed and fresh!

    • @nosuchthing4789
      @nosuchthing4789 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did I mention how this video is excellent? W O W

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jeri Ellsworth did this sort of think.

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ACAB\\ Mela BAKAta what religion are you talking about?

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lazyh-online4839 It's a joke

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GRBtutorials yeah, I obviously failed at understanding that, still don't quite get it sorry.

  • @electronicmfr
    @electronicmfr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know why a MOSFET with separate body & source (4 terminal) is not available in the market?

  • @stephensu4371
    @stephensu4371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello, i’m wonder where did you get materials

  • @p0k7lm
    @p0k7lm ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent dyi hands on skill , thank you for teaching !👍☺📚✏📐

  • @7arp836
    @7arp836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    凄すぎて感心します

  • @ddlc7022
    @ddlc7022 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is your process not affected by dust ? The ICs are done in a very clean environment

  • @shanewhite352
    @shanewhite352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    are the Intel processor in our computer uses the same mosfet but in nano scale? or entirely the chemicals are different?

  • @daveb5041
    @daveb5041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *Sometimes when I run out of mosfets to make my blinking LED circuits I will make my own in the kitchen. Amazing. Thought emporium isn't sht compared to this level of DIY*

  • @b3dubbs72
    @b3dubbs72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you sand blast with a fine grit to etch rather than using HF?

  • @marcsmithsonian9773
    @marcsmithsonian9773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to builid audio amplifier with this device, can you make 4 pieces of N channel with similar characteristics?

  • @thatoneguy99100
    @thatoneguy99100 ปีที่แล้ว

    What temperature did you grow your field oxide at? 2.5 hours seems awfully long for 5000A of wet oxide...

  • @faikharimi6224
    @faikharimi6224 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    many many thanks

  • @panteltje
    @panteltje 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I am glad I can just buy the IRLZ34N for a few dollars...
    But very informative video.
    Seems fun.

    • @jvon3885
      @jvon3885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the point. What if you find yourself in a position where you can't get access to aliexpress or bangood anymore? Or what happens if they have a shortage of components? But the number one reason is to be able to do it yourself.

  • @annaoaulinovna
    @annaoaulinovna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use patterned source drain area drawing make long effective field. Use photomasks photoresists and optical lenses.

  • @ser7ser7i
    @ser7ser7i 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @varundurge
    @varundurge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soo good loved it

  • @edaylward5948
    @edaylward5948 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sam, If I send you some superparamagnetic graphene, can you make me a working transistor?

    • @MouldySoul
      @MouldySoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet the postman loves you

  • @asifalikhan8677
    @asifalikhan8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any sami automatic waysor machines for making these Mosfets?

  • @TheRainHarvester
    @TheRainHarvester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you do this at a university before? Great info!

    • @zurichsee706
      @zurichsee706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he learnt by himself

    • @tootaashraf1
      @tootaashraf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zurichsee706 then why does he go to university

  • @marksmod
    @marksmod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not use a cylindrical piece of metal heated to 115 `C as a base plate during the spin coating process?

  • @gene7511
    @gene7511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heya, have you tried making an LED using this/a similar procedure?

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen people make organic light emitting diodes before, using a somewhat similar proceeds.

  • @user-hv5ol7re9i
    @user-hv5ol7re9i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, would be cool if you could explain the topic of IGBT

  • @annaoaulinovna
    @annaoaulinovna 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great person.

  • @pfrillele
    @pfrillele 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From where did you get the wafer?Thanks.

  • @anmolarora8201
    @anmolarora8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is name of mask that you have used in this process?

  • @jimmybuck1993
    @jimmybuck1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *he starts giving me safety info slowly skips past it.*
    My Gf: this is why you keep getting hurt.

  • @davidedgar7338
    @davidedgar7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe one of those bottle warmers for reheating baby bottles of milk would do for the acid solution. i think they warm to about 40 celcius.