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  • @esprmusic
    @esprmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1709

    Have any of the cheaters tried… getting good at the game?

    • @brandonmcgregor9912
      @brandonmcgregor9912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      why would they when they can't be bothered to try and not be obnoxious losers?

    • @Mrjohnny164
      @Mrjohnny164 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      They dont care about score
      They just think its fun and some of them like annoying people

    • @lukethomas.125
      @lukethomas.125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Obviously not. Besides, they're not interested in "getting good", they love the controversy

    • @fanpug_
      @fanpug_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      There is a well known hacker called Fazda in the Reach team snipers playlist, and he is pretty decent (if what I've seen is true). But he still fucking cheats with aimbot, flies around, ddos players, etc, ruining the match for everyone. I don't think it's about getting good, maybe he just wants to watch the world burn... idk

    • @IntrusiveThoughts838
      @IntrusiveThoughts838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they just want to ruin things for everyone yet don’t realize in their pathetic minds that they destroy the games they play. Well then again they wouldn’t care for they are parasites

  • @m.s6832
    @m.s6832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1312

    Cheaters are by far the biggest losers I've ever seen and are so extraordinarly bad that they have to ruin the game for others because they're small yet inflated ego of theirs needs to be stroked

    • @thataintfalco7106
      @thataintfalco7106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Botmakers too. Tf2 is even worse than MCC, the community servers are its saving grace. It was fixed for a bit, but it’s bad now

    • @thewisewolf768
      @thewisewolf768 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Literally some of the saddest, most pathetic people on earth

    • @chancefoy6287
      @chancefoy6287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thewisewolf768you think someone cheating in a video game is one of the saddest things? Bro😂😂😂

    • @LordTootWhacker
      @LordTootWhacker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chancefoy6287 found the cheater

    • @whyteshadow57
      @whyteshadow57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chancefoy6287 found the cheater here.

  • @ziadconnolly057
    @ziadconnolly057 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +459

    the MCC straight up prevents my friend from even playing co-op campaign on his steam deck because of the anti-cheat but it can let hackers run rampant. amazing

    • @38mb.
      @38mb. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      it's because the anticheat isnt designed for linux; as an open operating system it's a lot easier to make cheats for linux than for windows. but also i'm pretty sure the game has been 100% steamdeck compatible for like a solid 6 months at least

    • @ziadconnolly057
      @ziadconnolly057 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@38mb. It will still regularly boot him when we get the lobby past the mission load

    • @TheHunt890
      @TheHunt890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Strange I played Halo Co-op on Linux a couple weeks ago, and one of my friends was on Windows while the other was also on Linux.

    • @heyyoumewtwo4801
      @heyyoumewtwo4801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Apparently there's an issue where if you pick the anti cheat on or off options the opposite effect will happen. So ticking the "anti cheat off" option actually launches the game with anti cheat on instead. Even outside the actual game MCC is still such a mess and 343 fan boys will still say it isn't buggy.

    • @jbi21
      @jbi21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@heyyoumewtwo4801Yeah and those fanboys claim infinite is the best not broken halo ever. Meanwhile the whole game is plagued by desync, melees not connecting, dying behind walls, missing shots on a person actually killing them. Along with the bad campaign and overpriced store
      The 343 Fanboys suck and are killing Halo, they're the reason why 343 is getting away with all these issues with halo bc they act like there isn't a problem and call everyone else a toxic hater for pointing the negative issues with the games that need to be fixed to make their "precious" game better. They're always like "just ignore the problems and play the game its actually good if you don't pay attention to it." Meanwhile the 343 halos are bugged and broken like crazy making them unplayable to a majority of players and making people leave halo everyday.
      Bc of these people its made 343 see that they can just make crap and be ok because there will always be a small amount of people who will pretend problems don't exist which is ruining halo bc 343 keeps making the same mistakes and having the same problems on each game they release.

  • @RasenShot
    @RasenShot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    Honestly this issue deserves a less vague title. Devs/companies need to tighten security ASAP.

    • @eaou
      @eaou 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i think it's more mint is just fed up of having to make videos about this, 343 seemingly just does not care and it really shows

    • @dilbertpickle1659
      @dilbertpickle1659 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eaouIt's not that 343i doesn't care, but that cheating is an arms race and right now EVERY company is struggling to keep up with the rapid development of cheats.

    • @headphonesz6527
      @headphonesz6527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@dilbertpickle1659 You know why they're are so many games with cheating problems? Because they all run off the same 3-4 engines. They are all compromised. COD is still technically a heavily modified doom 3 engine. Obviously Unreal engine is completely compromised. Unity is compromised. If I see a game is using UE with easy anti cheat, you can guarantee its infested with cheaters

    • @sparkthedragon
      @sparkthedragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree, though from a developer standpoint, its not easy to just simply tighten security as it would mean rewriting some backend code, then also meaning the games may not be 100% accurate to their originals, while trying to also not possibly break anything

    • @IaeyanElyuex
      @IaeyanElyuex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know! They need *more* invasive, intrusive, ineffective kernel-level probeware!

  • @StevenReviews
    @StevenReviews 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +875

    The game NEEDS a system where everyone can vote to kick the offending player like source engine based games.

    • @BiblemanTF
      @BiblemanTF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      if only it doesnt backfire like in tf2, legits get kicked instead

    • @nikmagic8350
      @nikmagic8350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      It can be abused but I'd rather be kicked 1000 times, than be permanently banned.

    • @joanofsharc
      @joanofsharc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      see, that's a good idea. meaning microsoft will never implement it

    • @wolvesrevenge866
      @wolvesrevenge866 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@joanofsharcas a Microsoft fan I'm highly, HIGHLY pissed with them. Cheaters come and go but it's so rampant now and days the only company off top of my head that is good at controlling cheaters and keeping them minimal is Fortnite

    • @BiblemanTF
      @BiblemanTF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nikmagic8350 they are basically the same thing since nothing will ever be done about the cheaters

  • @catspearethegreat8800
    @catspearethegreat8800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    this problem really needs to be addressed. this is the main reason i don't play mcc anymore, it's really sad to me that people think that halo as a whole deserves to die

    • @NopeD
      @NopeD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I mean, what can be done outside of real-time monitoring? We're at the point where kernel level anti-cheats can be worked around.

    • @LANGIMATION
      @LANGIMATION 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is literally nothing to be done at this point, hackers will always find a way around heck even pirates are funding more ways to get around denuvo

    • @AlwayzFresh
      @AlwayzFresh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Halo itself is a toxic IP now. The way it has been handled has pissed of many more than will ever play it again. 343 has tipped the scales over to more folks actively hating Halo than liking it. I am one of them, I bought OG Halo on release day for my OG Xbox. I even read the books. Now, Halo is embarrassing. Zero time for it.

    • @stormbreaker7373
      @stormbreaker7373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@AlwayzFreshu sure do have a lot of time to comment on videos about halo tho

    • @witchkingangmar2731
      @witchkingangmar2731 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea halo died so yea I think we should lay it to rest

  • @thatoneswarmdrone6409
    @thatoneswarmdrone6409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +268

    Solutions to this problem:
    1. IP/Hardware Bans (Can be easily circumvented sadly)
    2. Implementing a better anti cheat into Halo like BattlEye or VAC (Better than nothing)
    3. Microsoft growing a pair and filing suits against cheaters and cheat makers (Super effective strategy)
    These people do not have the funding to take Microsoft on in a legal battle. They would get annihilated and make the rest of the cheating space think twice about cheating. Say what you will about the ethics of suing your players but this is a strategy I support if it means preserving the integrity of classic games.

    • @TheTimelessOne26
      @TheTimelessOne26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Anti cheat in general doesn't work. It never has. Also battleye is not good. Even kernal level ones. Which has major issues.

    • @thatoneswarmdrone6409
      @thatoneswarmdrone6409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @TheTimelessOne26 Yeah, anti cheats are just outmatched by cheat devs. Theres always a workaround.

    • @Bagginsess
      @Bagginsess 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@TheTimelessOne26considering MS already has the windows kernel it would be a very good move for them to implement a kernel level anti cheat for halo. Yes you can bypass kernel anticheat but it is expensive and all MS has to then do is sue the cheat developers and take down their websites.

    • @TheTimelessOne26
      @TheTimelessOne26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bagginsess no. Because kernel-level anti-cheat by everyone who is an expert on network security/cybersecurity or anyone with a brain knows that they are a major security risk. You taking a major chance when you use those. Please stop it. We dont need it.

    • @TheTimelessOne26
      @TheTimelessOne26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Bagginsess no, it wouldn't. Stop advocating for this. Kernel-level anti-cheats are a major security risk. You exposing your computer (your entire computer) to potential hackers. This happened to Genshin's impact users already. And this isn't my word. Ask any cybersecurity expert or someone in that industry, you will find the same points I mentioned.
      And that is just from that perspective. They are privacy issues as well. And users that will be affected by this more. Linux or mac users.

  • @marty1459
    @marty1459 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    Sad bastards. Hopefully 343 can sort this out.

    • @gabrielcoventry4586
      @gabrielcoventry4586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Literally, they clearly have too much time on their hands.

    • @CHIEFLUKE101
      @CHIEFLUKE101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Doubt it.

    • @uglyburrito_
      @uglyburrito_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      they're too busy adding colors to the store to do that

    • @LANGIMATION
      @LANGIMATION 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gabrielcoventry4586 you speak as if dealing with hackers is that easy😂there really isn't much to be done to counter hackers they always have ways to get around anti cheats, especially if they have an insider revealing the anti cheat codes in the games, like when GTA had its source code leaked and now hackers can do whatever they want.

    • @McBoofus
      @McBoofus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They won't.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    It seems like gaming news nowadays is constantly good one day and bad the next.
    I have seen moblie game Halo clones with fewer hackers than MCC.

    • @mrfakerkrab
      @mrfakerkrab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah it seems to happen everytime

    • @OrdinaryDoommarine
      @OrdinaryDoommarine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      fr

    • @totalygamingtemplar
      @totalygamingtemplar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@nah4215 Detroit become human, pal world, helldivers, infinite, and you might not like this, but fallout 76

    • @greek7003
      @greek7003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@totalygamingtemplarinfinite, palworld and fallout 76 are the most shit games what are you talking about? Has the gaming community fallen so low?

    • @thecoolestbean4688
      @thecoolestbean4688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@greek7003There are far worse games out there what tf are you on about

  • @Splichood
    @Splichood 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    I myself am a modder but never could understand why people abuse the power like that when you can make things so much more fun for everyone using this power and even use it to prevent other cheaters from ruining the game.

    • @IntrusiveThoughts838
      @IntrusiveThoughts838 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Because they want to have a power fantasy over real people. It’s pathetic honestly for they don’t realize they are killing the game they are playing. I have more words for people like this but I know I will get slapped by Susan

    • @captainuseless2120
      @captainuseless2120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IntrusiveThoughts838No, they do. They just don’t give a flying frick. People like that are garbage human beings who only care about their own gratification.

    • @meurumtrain4747
      @meurumtrain4747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@IntrusiveThoughts838they don’t care, they’ll just move on to another

    • @Suffur.
      @Suffur. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      they use the EAC bypass and allows them to use assembly online. I assume u kjnow what halo assembly is because ur a modder.

    • @nocontender6409
      @nocontender6409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Suffur.They didn't ask "how", they're talking about "why".

  • @woodsgump
    @woodsgump 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Yeah cheaters are no fun, hope you’re doing okay man.

  • @jaysonisaac5604
    @jaysonisaac5604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I was playing the OG Cod Black Ops and someone messaged my my exact location.. I'm currently in Korea on a short tour. Scary to think these people can do that. I'll stick to getting MCC campaign achievements until I get a PC and VPN.

    • @jaysonisaac5604
      @jaysonisaac5604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me*

    • @ag99900
      @ag99900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      thats insane how ppl can find exactly where you are unless you have a vpn or something

    • @jaysonisaac5604
      @jaysonisaac5604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ag99900 especially when I'm in a very random country

  • @Salamander1997
    @Salamander1997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Shit needs to change it's ridiculous

  • @ShakyWheel66469
    @ShakyWheel66469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I primarily play custom games and I'm telling you right now, cheaters are on them too. I have so much footage of cheaters changing their gamertag mid game, flying around at the speed of light, sword lunging from far away and straight up taking down peoples lobbies. It's a real issue that needs addressing. These players can do things which no other player should be able to do, but for some reason it doesn't set off the anticheat... it's insane. Like what is the current anticheat even doing if it's not stopping the most blatant cheats?

  • @MLink23
    @MLink23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Oh man, if it's anything like TF2 this could get even worse.

    • @BiblemanTF
      @BiblemanTF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      this is probably worse, at least tf2 can be played even if the gameplay is just a ton of cheaters and bots, you cant even join halo matches now? lol

    • @spat3305
      @spat3305 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BiblemanTFtf2 (titanfall 2 I assume ) has hackers that can take complete access of your PC, and get access to your personal info ,documents etc. I don’t think that’s the case for MCC yet.

    • @dropstopandroll
      @dropstopandroll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@spat3305they mean team fortress 2.

    • @BiblemanTF
      @BiblemanTF 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@dropstopandroll honestly i dont know if he meant titanfall in the first place, but it sounds really bad as well as team fortress, where the hell are the hive mind ammount of cheaters coming from to infest every game, goddamn

    • @38mb.
      @38mb. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no they cant, lmao? @@spat3305

  • @ThornEternal
    @ThornEternal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Hackers are just so tiring and boring. I don't understand how lonely and bored they have to be to do this stuff

    • @primalconvoy
      @primalconvoy หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because they're either physically, mentally (or both) 9 years old.

  • @z_singh
    @z_singh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Tbh the only solution to this plague across all games is the makers submitting lawsuits against the cheat makers and cheaters. I saw someone else's comment about Microsoft being able to annihilate these companies, and I want to elaborate that Microsoft now also owns Activision, which means they should really work to fix this problem across CoD and Halo alike. We need to step up as a gaming community to stop this plague

  • @CyanEyed07
    @CyanEyed07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Not to mention game crashes trigger the quit bans, which have been the cause of my friends just waiting around or just straight up quiting due to no fault of our own.

  • @xLordxHades
    @xLordxHades 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I hate cheaters so much. You gotta be a real piece of shit to ruin the few bright spots in other people's lives.

  • @hoomanperson236
    @hoomanperson236 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Its so much worse than this, there are so many clans that swatt, doxx, cheat, and ddos and i wish someone could shed light on the issue. Its not just the matchmaking the customs browser is so much worse...

  • @QuatraaGaming
    @QuatraaGaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's just like that in 90% of all online service games these days. It's pretty sad now to the point i generally only play single player games now.

  • @__-ni1kz
    @__-ni1kz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    They’ve been able to impersonate your GT for years. I set my regions to exclude Asia and South America. I would limit matchmaking to exclude PC in my Xbox’s settings, but I can’t find games that way.

    • @mouaragon2774
      @mouaragon2774 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why exclude south america?

    • @TheBoss.-tq2vm
      @TheBoss.-tq2vm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can limit matchmaking with your Xbox?

    • @GENERALEVILANGEL
      @GENERALEVILANGEL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mouaragon2774 There's A LOT of cheaters here. Like I've seen pirate gaming stores where you can buy modded controllers, aim bots, etc

    • @__-ni1kz
      @__-ni1kz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheBoss.-tq2vmYeah, settings>general>online safety & family>privacy & online safety>xbox privacy>communication & multiplayer>"you can join cross-network play":block
      I used to do that in MW19 so I would only match controller players.

  • @GaminMonkey
    @GaminMonkey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s sad that the hackers on halo didn’t really become this much of a problem untill it came on pc

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not the fault of PC, plenty of PC games don't have cheaters. COD is a great example, playing the old COD games i almost never come across a cheater. This is a lazy dev issue

    • @GaminMonkey
      @GaminMonkey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mrcaboosevg6089 I agree with you man its sad now how all these games are and we can’t just simply play and enjoy with one someone trying to ruin it

    • @homr8785
      @homr8785 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Halo has been on PC since 2003 buddy

    • @GaminMonkey
      @GaminMonkey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@homr8785 yes Ik but the problem wasn’t bad like is now

  • @bigmack70
    @bigmack70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Quit bans have always been stupid in the MCC. They don't really do anything to address quitters, and it was always a band-aid fix onto a really horrible SBMM implementation that makes people want to quit when they are put into unfair games or against full stacked teams..

  • @Its_MURPHINATOR
    @Its_MURPHINATOR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is so depressing. I'm sorry y'all had to put up with this during your streams. I've encountered a few cheaters recently with aimbots who fly around the map and change their gamertags just like you highlighted in this video. I really hope something can be done about this, MCC's population is not high enough to avoid these people.

  • @Samuel_Loegan
    @Samuel_Loegan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    That's terrible! I hope they fix it

  • @coltonpittman5350
    @coltonpittman5350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Seems like this could be a good use of deep learning AI. Something that can analyze player behavior and fight cheating based on abnormal behavior and results

  • @finnedjoker
    @finnedjoker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Haven't played the multiplayer on halo in a while cause I'm trying to complete my campaign runs and hearing this gives me relief, now I'm gonna disable cross play for safety

    • @luckeyjake14
      @luckeyjake14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally forgot you can do that on MCC 😅 sadly Halo Infinite doesn't have that option and I swear the common cheat is walls because the anti cheat kinda looks for aim bot.

    • @oOignignoktOo1
      @oOignignoktOo1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you're not 100% safe on console either you have douchebags on there that use xim's to get kb/m controls with gamepad aim assist. But it's not as bad as people who fly around the map with aimbot among other things.
      I play on PC because I like KB/M this game was fun a few years ago but online pvp in 2024 is awful because of online games being infested with cheaters. Unfortunately it's a problem with society and our culture on top of gaming developers being cheapskates and not developing competent anti-cheat solutions to games problems.

    • @luckeyjake14
      @luckeyjake14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @oOignignoktOo1 True, you are not 100% safe even with Console. The issue is the power of the cheats and where they show up. Also, Microsoft allows you to play most Xbox games with a keyboard and mouse hooked up to the Xbox itself. So, the keyboard and mouse aren't the issues. It's cheating in general. The problem is that Anti-Cheat methods are a Bandaid solution in a Cross-play era. I'm not an expert in many areas, but I can say there is way more power in the hands of PC players. That power has been used by some for personal gain. That right there has stained PC players' reputations regardless if they do or do not cheat. The sad reality for some games that have been on Console for the majority of its lifetime to switch to Cross-play with PC and issues showing almost day 1 on newly releases. Halo Infinite is the best example of a Halo game. The majority of its lifetime being console exclusive, then when PC players joined in a couple of bad actors made it clear it's PC issue. The cheating has died down a lot a year later, but the same bad actors still use Walls because it's easy and hard to find. Anti-Cheat delays the inevitable.

  • @adaptcap115
    @adaptcap115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Give more power to player handle Halo MCC to less Dev time and focus more on priority things to preserve Halo longer.

    • @Axoe
      @Axoe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats not a good idea, the players are very paranoid. High level ranked community has so many cheating accusations and people closet cheating too so I dont think giving players power to ban would end well

  • @JoeFroShow
    @JoeFroShow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The same thing happened to OG MW2 on PC. It's the only reason I have to use lobby admin tools to force host games and ban strictly only those actually hacking from my lobbies. It's the community who keeps that game clean.

  • @CranberryJackson57
    @CranberryJackson57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    MCC is sacred and needs to be protected.

  • @antoniouss
    @antoniouss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i remember in bo2 the cheaters would block you from being able to leave the match. and it’s still 60$ on steam.

  • @koolerpure
    @koolerpure 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s crazy that people refuse to play the game they paid for and just cheat

  • @cliffjumper1506
    @cliffjumper1506 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This is why Mint is the best. Doesn’t care if he’s gonna get targeted just wants the halo community to thrive!

    • @slickdrick
      @slickdrick 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately we can't say the same thing about 343. They've been actively destroying the community since 2012

  • @red5robb1
    @red5robb1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    in a non competitive matchmaking setting, cheaters can make games more fun.
    i remember playing CoD WaW like 10 years ago, i went into a zombies match and one of them was a hacker. he didnt do anything major. just did things that were fun like spawning random weapons, made weapons shoot differently, made it so we could all run faster. things like that. and because it was a pve thing, i think that type of thing is ok (as long as it doesnt boost any rank in some way)

    • @Atomlxe
      @Atomlxe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      people would do this all the time on black ops 2 aswell, but in the case of black ops 2 u dont even need a modded console or anything (if u played console, which a majority of people that played bo2 did) because the theater mode wasnt just videos, it played back actual gameplay, meaning those mod menu infections would work in theater mode

  • @Mrjohnny164
    @Mrjohnny164 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I REALLY dont get why 343i implemented a 15 min ban for leaving matches ON A SOCIAL PLAYLIST. It is genuinely one of the stupidest ideas theyve had, specially because you can join on going games
    Just past week I was playing some griff ball on mcc and some guy didnt want anyone to score and just wanted to reach timeout on EVERY ROUND. Thats 15 minutes of just smacking eachother. I matchmaked with him twice, the moment I realised he was there again I was having none of it and left and I somehow have to pay because someone just wants to waist my time
    It is SO STUPID. Why do players have to be punished for leaving a social match? Why are we forced to play with cheaters and people who overall ruin the expirience? Best part is that you can even join custom games or firefight until the ban lifts

  • @EwokHunter27
    @EwokHunter27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was playing Halo Reach on MCC yesterday, I finished my game with no betrayals, and it banned me for 10 minutes for no reason. Also Naded can’t eject people for some reason because of “too many ejections”

  • @d3entertainment830
    @d3entertainment830 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Mint, you're spot on with this one. I was a semi pro back in Halo 2 and 3 when they first came around. We had cheaters but we managed. It's gotten so bad in the MCC that I don't even play it unless someone wants to play through the stories. It makes me sad given that Halo is the reason I owned an Xbox in the first place. I have a long history with it and the MP side of the games.

  • @251spartan
    @251spartan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    343 Needa to make TOSERS for the MCC, (digital cookie for whoever gets the reference!)

    • @LTurmoil47
      @LTurmoil47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Isn't that from Arby n the chief?

    • @251spartan
      @251spartan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LTurmoil47 Yep! =)

    • @XxXxTwofirstnames69420xXxXx
      @XxXxTwofirstnames69420xXxXx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Freeze! Tossers!

  • @Joshua5149
    @Joshua5149 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is just out of hand 😔

  • @jaybrown034
    @jaybrown034 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Halo as a whole needs a HOTFIX

  • @limit504.
    @limit504. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just think adding these games to PC is just a bad idea in general or at least cross play for PC and console It's killing these games way too quick.

  • @the-arbiter-has-returned
    @the-arbiter-has-returned 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They could do something like how tf2 deals with cheaters with vote kicks from matches but I also understand that’s not perfect

  • @Creed5.56
    @Creed5.56 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the solution for cheaters is to just put them in lobbies against each other. If they aren’t actually cheating they’ll get their ass kicked, and removed from the pool. But if they are and it’s directed without fail once. They are only paired against cheaters or banned from online play.

  • @jessejive117
    @jessejive117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I literally was removed in a competitive free-for-all match for teabagging somebody one time and the game said body desecration is not allowed. I’ve only ever seen it once. But if they know that I’m putting my titanium taint on the silent and cold lips of my fallen adversaries I think they can figure out somebody’s using an aim bot. I laughed so hard when somebody teabags me. I don’t care how mad I am about losing it makes me bust out laughing still! Love that there are still immature. People playing the game, even in competitive mode, and just trying to keep some of the goofiness and Fun alive. I did accidentally kill myself in that match so maybe that’s what it meant by body desecration, something with suicide, but it was Lonewolf and it was one time by accident. I only teabag one person in that match. I think it was like two minutes before I was banned and like 10 seconds after I fell off the map.

    • @onelongwordable
      @onelongwordable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's crazy, T bagging is a sacred part of Halo and I don't wanna play a version of the game that sanitized

    • @jessejive117
      @jessejive117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@onelongwordable it’s just weird I’ve never seen that happen before in any halo game and it only happened once but it kicked me from the game and gave me that message. I’m assuming it was from the teabagging. It said body desecration is not tolerated or something really close to that. I’m gonna look it up.

  • @MP_3122
    @MP_3122 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What do cheetahs have to do with any of this though? 🐆

    • @onelongwordable
      @onelongwordable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You didn't see how FAST that guy was? Gotta slow 'em down eh?

  • @Techedship54
    @Techedship54 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yt literally just recommended a tutorial video of someone doing this for mcc and also aimbot/walls for infinite. 343 is going to do nothing to stop this and the videos are getting thousands of views if I could link it I would but the video is called “Engine-Owning For HALO INFINITE (Aimbot+Wallhacks)” By Guap and this isn’t the only video. The biggest downfall for the halo franchise is opening the servers to pc players and making cross play unavoidable. The worst part is 343 knows these videos showing people how to do these hacks exists and they still won’t do anything. That’s also why it’s live service now too. No love, just revenue. No developer that has your best interest in mind would sit and let this happen all while selling you a helmet for 25 dollars.

  • @TheCrispyForge
    @TheCrispyForge 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry to hear that. I have finally started getting pretty good at Reach’s multiplayer and it sucks to know now that it probably will not be any fun thanks to people who only care about making people miserable.

  • @BigBladeFan
    @BigBladeFan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly companies should sue every website or even companies making these hacks. You take out the root of the problem the cheaters would be screwed.

  • @KittStargazer
    @KittStargazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unfortunately, there's probably not much they can really do to really detract from dealing with cheaters as it stands. If there were, then you'd actually see other games and devs come up with solutions to deal with them. Look at my game for years, Team Fortress 2, which was seemingly abandoned by Valve due to what I presume is fatigue from the Devs who have been working on that game for like, nearly 15-20 years now. Matchmaking is plagued with bots, to the point the best way to deal with them is to stop doing matchmaking and start playing on community servers. Preferably ones that have active moderators and admins that will remove people who are clearly cheating.

    • @FoxGoesSquee
      @FoxGoesSquee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ew its you, the eternally online weirdo and weird art pfp

  • @ControlledSprite144
    @ControlledSprite144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m scared to even play multiplayer now because of cheaters

    • @ControlledSprite144
      @ControlledSprite144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have an idea, the player can change their tag once a year or make your own tag a one time then that tag will be locked and can’t be changed again until one year. This should solve this issue with the impersonation issue in MCC

  • @arickhook370
    @arickhook370 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Microsoft and Sony need to come together and sick their lawyers on these people who create these cheats

  • @RaidenLiveee
    @RaidenLiveee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Im glad to see my video of me getting killed by cheaters was used in the video at 0:14. 😅
    This cheating thing has been a problem for awhile now. I uploaded my video like a year ago lol. Im glad some bigger names are finally talking about it.
    Kinda sucks both the games I mainly play being titanfall 2 and halo mcc has cheaters that the devs will not do anything about. I get they are old games but no one can set aside some time to do anything?
    Apex legends has blatant cheaters who stream and they are allowed to exist.
    Modern multiplayer is annoying sometimes😅

  • @XenoHCS
    @XenoHCS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s sad. Hope to see it get better soon

  • @MattiasHolmbom
    @MattiasHolmbom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow this highlights the lame and sad parts of humanity. There's no way a cheater was loved as a kid. Solution = love our kids. And maybe Halo 68 will be cheater-free.

    • @hoomanperson236
      @hoomanperson236 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao many of these cheaters are trying to help the issue by loving kids but their attempts are usually misguided

  • @sethfearnow3821
    @sethfearnow3821 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The arms race is cut short from the developer side with headcount reductions and cost cutting to pad CEO bonuses. I feel like the cheating is one driver for the popularity of more co-op or campaign focused games like helldivers.

  • @UltraSpartanProductions
    @UltraSpartanProductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope they can fix it

  • @Thomas_Strauss
    @Thomas_Strauss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for bringing this to light. I am max rank plyer on mcc and I can say theres many cheaters on mcc. Specifically on ranked h3 team slayer its a mess theres already AFK guys constantly and cheater/hacker comes up too often I've seen. N its such a limited player pool already... Its sad ur right. Ppl want to ruin already faltering game. I say just ply for it, go earn it... I didn't know the part about they can mimic your gamertag, quit, then you get a ban. Thats wild. I love halo so much been playing since very beginning of 360 H3 to 360 Reach now MCC I pretty much play all titles. The ban was already getting out of hand in first place, now against Modder obv dont want to lose, no option but to quit. Removing bans might not be solution though, or you'll end up with how 360 reach was with players who drop out in less than a minute. Needed to quit like 50 games in a row literally to get a one-time 10 minute ban. I played 53,000 match made games on 360 reach and far too many were hunting down one or two players gets annoying. They just need to go to the source with these modders. Glad you made this video you have large following to get attention to the issue here.. --- WAR x WITHIN

  • @DarkLordJerry
    @DarkLordJerry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so glad you’re talking about this! I was playing last night and ran into a hacker who was walking and running around lunging at people with huge amounts of range and having infinite ammo for his magnum and with his actions a bunch of people left the game and I don’t blame them, people like him ruin things and hopefully 343 can ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Otherwise Halo MCC is gonna be the exact state it was launched in.

  • @xPersianxKing
    @xPersianxKing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:28 HELL YEAH
    I remember I came into the stream and my twitch name was Zezima Bot and Mint recognized the Runescape lore from my name. I love how he also used to play and references the game, it’s true Server Admins, or Player Moderators are needed for a games overall health. Especially games like Halo.

  • @wheezymac
    @wheezymac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cheaters are always annoying, thankfully I haven’t ran into any in Infinite or MCC. I hope you boys are as lucky as I’ve been

    • @hoomanperson236
      @hoomanperson236 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro had one walk into my customs just last night, damn right you're lucky lmao

    • @wheezymac
      @wheezymac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hoomanperson236 DAMN, I didn’t know it was THAT BAD. Can’t even play customs…

    • @onelongwordable
      @onelongwordable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hoomanperson236that reminds me of the ghost of lockout! I can't imagine how that's even possible or how a cheater even gets to that point in life that they're invading custom games

    • @hoomanperson236
      @hoomanperson236 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@onelongwordable its worse on customs

  • @JonNuclear
    @JonNuclear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah idk about that, maybe the system could get reworked but I've had a HUGE issue with players quitting games when losing or when they don't get the power weapon they want right away or when they die in some way they don't like and its ruined hundreds of games for me while I've only ran into a couple minor cheaters. The reason people quitting is such a prolific problem, that I've seen other people site as the reason they left the game, is because the punishment for quitting is too light and often doesn't even apply. Kicks and reports need to be a real thing in the game, but if they removed even more stuff to allow people to quit whenever they want I would not play the game anymore.

  • @OwlofAsgard
    @OwlofAsgard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dame that's horrible I hope they fix it up for you all.... well I'm glad the fan in my xbox whent out back in 2022 but I feel really bad for you guys who have to put up with that shit though hope y'all are doing good to the best of your abilities

  • @Fries101Reviews
    @Fries101Reviews 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I barely play Halo MCC Anymore becuz some of my friends don't want to Play it but now there are hackers in Online Sessions I hope 343 & Microsoft can fixed this issue

  • @JackJonValois
    @JackJonValois 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with these program emulators/ESP's is that they are bought from online websites who rework them frequently so their subscribers can run rampant again and again no matter what the developers do to patch it.
    Controller emulators with all sorts of aim and movement hacks are a whole other ball game because they run through controllers so there is nothing for the engine to actually detect unless something is built to assess the particular movement it enables.

  • @Spumoon
    @Spumoon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's like this everywhere. I play Battlefront II and playing a high health character like Clone Commando or Anakin and getting killed in 0.7 seconds flat at range by some guy with a CR-2 happens way too often. Other times it's even more obvious, like a flying Bossk.

  • @travisconover4762
    @travisconover4762 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need to hire the TV show "Cheaters" and rush on people with cameras when caught messing around.😅

  • @stolendiamond09
    @stolendiamond09 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just want to point out that developers aren’t simply “letting it go on” like Mint says in the beginning of the video. Obviously anticheat is always evolving and it has to in order to keep up, but the reality is that it’s a balancing act between catching more hackers and punishing innocent people, as well as impacting performance if it gets too intrusive.
    For example, if they make it can people who are flying, people like Mint who do stunts that send them through the air could get banned. An even better example is aim botting, combating which always risks targeting people with really good aim that aren’t cheating.
    Long story short, it’s not a simple problem that can just be solved if only the developers would put more effort into it. There’s a lot more nuance to it.

  • @holymoly8163
    @holymoly8163 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is, in fact, a turn crossplay off moment if on Xbox.

  • @russell1617
    @russell1617 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why, I just play Offline Split screen Local play only, and thank God for the Bots on Halo Infinite.
    Let's hope MCC, can Get Bots aswell soo we don't need to play online to play a full match of multiplayer.

  • @JoeFilms5420
    @JoeFilms5420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully they're able to fix this issue. It would be a shame if the MCC was overrun completely.

  • @DeMelly__
    @DeMelly__ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They all look like that guy off that South Park episode

  • @Green-IV
    @Green-IV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:12 Nice.

  • @isaiahmcneese5766
    @isaiahmcneese5766 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    honestly there it is also a sizable issue on xbox as well at least for halo infinite

  • @PlaywithEthan
    @PlaywithEthan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is SO messed up! I’m sorry! Hope they fix it!

  • @duck_entertainment
    @duck_entertainment 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AH! Centered reticle in H3!

  • @CreatorRequiem
    @CreatorRequiem 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CSGO had a great thing going with Overwatch where players of the community that earned a trusted rep could help review clips and entire matches from a player. I'd love to see that applied considering at how well it was managed as in order to help review you needed good standings on your own account and maintain that. The only thing is keeping your status hidden might be a problem if cheater's are leaking info.

  • @KeepItClean25
    @KeepItClean25 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An idea I've given thought about is what if 343 had a couple devs oversee a select group of fans such as big halo names, developers of big halo fan games like Eldewrito, Spv3, etc. To help regulate the game from cheaters, that way 343 doesnt have to have a ton of employees allocated to MCC and the game can still be moderated without fear of hackers.

  • @callingblades
    @callingblades 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This happened to me this week!!!

  • @HydratedBeans
    @HydratedBeans 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is actually one of the few good uses for AI. Have an AI monitor the packets coming into the server and look for abnormal behavior. Occasionally people as good as Mint Blitz will get false-flagged, but a verification system could prevent this.

  • @jaymore012
    @jaymore012 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t wait to play Halo 2 on Insignia!

  • @Studmuffin1723
    @Studmuffin1723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Literally ran into someone using the same cheats on halo infinite the other day and had to do a double take.

  • @enriqueflores8822
    @enriqueflores8822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    These cheetas!! 🐆

  • @AlanLare
    @AlanLare 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reason I've started playing online FAR less often than I used to, cheaters who can't have fun unless they ruin other people's fun, or cheaters that do it because they don't want to actually earn their way through victory, or to make themselves feel better about their sad, sad lives

  • @seanpasquarella4149
    @seanpasquarella4149 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember when GTA V modders could change voltage settings to your pc's components and brick the whole thing? Good times.

  • @adrianost074
    @adrianost074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I doubt 343 is going to fix this anytime soon considering how Microsoft aren't interested in the MCC anymore and focusing more on Infinite. It's a shame that publishers like Activision and Microsoft just completely ignore the classic games fans love and want to play and just let it be infested with malicious people. It's evolved to the point where it's not a matter of "this guy is using wallhacks or aimbot", it's the fact that cheaters can now get your IP, personal data like your bank details or anything stored on your PC and install malicious content onto your PC in the case of Call of Duty. I'm surprised there hasn't been a lawsuit in those cases where publishers aren't being held responsible for causing damage to those that fell victim to having their personal data exploited through their service which they refuse to maintain properly. Then again, its not like it would be a winning battle against the big company.

  • @hcolider2817
    @hcolider2817 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only way this problem will ever get solved is if games return to a community structure, where servers are hosted (and thus also actively moderated) primarily by players

  • @caniafeoriginal
    @caniafeoriginal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor monzu😢

  • @mushroomfish300
    @mushroomfish300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing cheaters completely infest playlists and matches is actually sickening to me. They’re ruining the game, and for what??? Just so they can feed their ego?? It’s sad.😞

  • @eggzkaratejl5124
    @eggzkaratejl5124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smurfs are also a huge problem on halo, and it could easily be fixed by making their matchmaking system better and more balanced

  • @Dadbod2019
    @Dadbod2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can try the new cursed halo reach mod I’m sure you will do crazy stuff with that

  • @kdarecon242
    @kdarecon242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:32 I really hope you two are ok you guys shouldn't have your IP leaks while having a good time playing MCC, having your IP leak must be the scariest thing to happened, hope you two are doing alright 🙏

  • @LukeLottering
    @LukeLottering 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad Mint
    And there's also competition In this as a gaming sport

  • @BluDrgn426
    @BluDrgn426 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, that is some major sh*t

  • @willwunsche6940
    @willwunsche6940 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take Overwatch off that list they actually have close to no cheaters nowadays despite being a non invasive anticheat and a f2p game it's crazy. But it goes to show that IT IS possible to eliminate the problem.
    I don't expect Halo to recieve that level of funding but they can at least get to the level of Star Wars Battlefront 2 or Battlefield 1, where cheating is extremely rare, doxxing doesn't happen, and impersonation bans aren't a thing. EA went back and killed most of the cheats in Battlefront 2 later even after support had ended for the game

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That, or the game straight up not as popular pre-OW2. And its currently having an identity crisis.

  • @blackwolf528
    @blackwolf528 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    343 can’t really do much about the anti cheat sense it’s Epics anti cheat. So Epic would have to improve it on their end.

  • @DElkan
    @DElkan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to go through this with TF2 and Valve's negligence first, and now MCC and 343. They are my two favorite shooters of all time, and unlike TF2 a core part of Halo's experience is the matchmaker. There is no OG server browser like Valve games, and custom game lobbies for core gamemodes just doesn't feel the same.

  • @sparkthedragon
    @sparkthedragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i can say as someone who messes with network stuff and code, its not easy to properly detect cheaters, most the time with network related stuff, but i agree, a community moderator like thing would be likely the best solution. It would also be probably the easiest solution as trying to remake a whole network code backend while not breaking the way the games were made to be played.

  • @kennethmacleod9980
    @kennethmacleod9980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks a lot for making a video about this, cause it seems it's the only way to get 343's attention, and I do hope they take this issue seriously otherwise the game is doomed.
    On a side note, I ran into a cheater on Infinite as well recently, went into theater to confirm my suspicions and sure enough he had an aimbot, clipped and saved the theater replay and I reported him to 343, will they do something about it? who knows.

  • @chrisnoctskie5869
    @chrisnoctskie5869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Screw this! I'm playing Helldivers 2...