Why the new Mercedes C43 AMG has failed

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  • @ErwanYTube
    @ErwanYTube 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Mercedes has lost its mind in the last few years: not only the huge prices increase but also the design of the newer models are actually less attractive than the previous generations. Very curious to see how this will sustain economically for them.

    • @leecaldwell1029
      @leecaldwell1029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they will be fine.... Mercedes brand is not having any issues selling new cars at all.. I know this because trying to find certain cars new is nearly impossible, so I bought the same car 1-2years used.

    • @KennyJosephNiven
      @KennyJosephNiven 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      theyre financing the 4th reich

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The correct customer response is to buy nothing until the manufacturers start to be sensible.
    The prices are simply ridiculous. No one needs to buy one, the second hand cars will struggle on absolutely fine until they stop sniffing the glue.

  • @Ian-A-3179
    @Ian-A-3179 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It was exactly the same in Australia. I traded in, at a Merc dealer, a 3 year old A35 in the second half of 2022 and got about 5 grand (AUD) less than what I paid for it new. A new A45S was about $106K when I paid my deposit in 2022 and now the 2023 FL is about $130K. A 24 grand increase! Although because Merc Australia missed so many promised delivery dates they agreed to accept the 2022 price for the FL 2023 model that I eventually got. So a nice win in the end that I’m told was a rarity. Cheers mate

  • @drewcutting
    @drewcutting 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm deciding between a C43 and M340i right now. I would never buy it new with those prices, but the dealership is selling a 2023 C43 with 9,000 miles as a CPO for only $58,000 -- it's fully loaded and Pinnacle line (MSRP was $72,000). It seems like an excellent deal to me.

    • @ratedm90
      @ratedm90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      M340i all day!

    • @SuperChunk1775
      @SuperChunk1775 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did the same and went with the c43

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SuperChunk1775foolish

  • @Phillipsonfire123
    @Phillipsonfire123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just got out of a 19 c43 to a 23 m340i and I actually low key miss my c43 6cyl model

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Second comment focusing on the car: the A45S, C43, CLA45S, GLA45S and C63S all use the same hand built AMG 4 cylinder M139 petrol engine with various tweaks and/or electric motor bolted on. It largely comes down to a matter of styling/budget rather than distinctly different choices under the bonnet.

  • @labmad5886
    @labmad5886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    C43 & C63 are flopping for another reason .......4 cylinders !!! I bought my silver 4dr 2020 C43 V6 (9k miles) secondhand from a dealer unfortunately when prices were high in Nov 22 but it did mean I only lost £500 on my low mileage Golf R I had owned almost 3 years ! Price of Merc I paid was only 10k cheaper than list, for my 2 yr 8 month old car. So took a big knock in depreciation. Only done 16k miles now as brought out occasionally for fun and love it though.

    • @tedstribley2833
      @tedstribley2833 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice - what’s your experience like owning a C43? I’m thinking of buying a 2020 model for my first AMG.

    • @labmad5886
      @labmad5886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Ted So far car has been great. Only problem I have had a year ago is cooling fan kept coming on after each journey and fuel consumption not good then. Journey could be 3miles and very cold weather ! After a few months and one long journey of 100 miles problem went away. Must have been too short a runs with exhaust open so soot wasn’t burning off Cat I was told. Car is amazing, fast and yet safe with 4 wheel drive. Economy amazing too. Regulary see 33mpg to 37mpg in summer on a cruise if driven sensibly. 9 speed gearbox keeps revs low, barely over tickover at 40mphish. People say how good BMW 340i is. Yes B58 engine great but 3 series are common and in my mind not as good looking.

    • @tedstribley2833
      @tedstribley2833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@labmad5886 thanks a lot for the very detailed response. I would love to get a c43 coupe, 2020 model. Unfortunately, being early 20’s means my insurance is ridiculous (looking at £4K minimum). So will have to wait a few years first

    • @labmad5886
      @labmad5886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ted My insurance was only £377 Sorry ! But I am 70 yrs old which helps a lot !!!!

    • @tedstribley2833
      @tedstribley2833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@labmad5886 😂😂 maybe just a bit! Fancy letting me put you on mine as a named driver?? 😂😂

  • @AwadA-ey7pn
    @AwadA-ey7pn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought mine w 14 miles Dec6th. Check Engine light came on same night at 80 miles. Took it back in the morning and they held it for 3 wks. Got it back Dec29. Happened again at 2.2k miles. Took it back Jan24th. And they had it for 3 weeks again now still. Ive paid the first 2 car notes so far and only had it for 2 wks

  • @anthonystyles
    @anthonystyles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm happy with the 2024 C43. I managed to work a good deal once I spoke to the dealership's manager, and I was also relieved to get out of my COVID GLE 450. They kept trying to push the C300 on me, but the C43 caught my eye. I only wished I could grab a matte black version instead.

    • @Hi-how-are-you-today.
      @Hi-how-are-you-today. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is the suspension vs the 450 (also what wheel size do you have on the c43)?

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He won’t reply. He bought a 4 cyc. Turd.

  • @leecaldwell1029
    @leecaldwell1029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are absolutely right on price for new cars. Unless you have to have a color or specific options you have to understand first and second year of depreciation are going to kill you. I purchased a 2020 C63s with 32k miles fully loaded for 57K and I purchased a 2022 E53 AMG 17K miles that had an original msrp of 92K for 66K... 2-3 years used is the sweet spot for mercedes. both are certified and both have extended warranties.

  • @GoScotland1983
    @GoScotland1983 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With AMG cars the concern is that buying a used one means that you run the risk that it has been thrashed for a year and you may be picking up a problem car.

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s true you don’t know the history but the car will still be under warranty if it’s a year old and even if the car was over 3 years old and out of warranty if you buy a used AMG from a Mercedes dealer you get a free 2 year warranty which is nice. So it’s still quite low risk.

  • @christopheratkinson1690
    @christopheratkinson1690 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Totally agree, Adam. I have nearly 2 years before I change my CLA 45S and have been online for many hours comparing used E63 C63 and BMW M5. If things stay as they are used 2 or 3 years will be the route I will go down. There are good used deals out there if you spend enough time researching 😊

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When the time comes for me to get my next car I’m actually really excited to explore the used market. They are such good value and so much more fun than all these new hybrids. £104k for the new C63 non V8 on the Mercedes website 🤮

    • @leecaldwell1029
      @leecaldwell1029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABAUTOAMG non V8 c63 has made the V8 C63S market go crazy. they are selling less than 3-5 days when listed. I have been looking for months and finally just purchased one. I would rather have the bi turbo V8 then the new one..

    • @deshapedttv1033
      @deshapedttv1033 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. That's only whats left, I also just got my 2019 C43 sedan full spec in designo matte grey. I will finance this for 2 more years until its paid off, and then look for an E63 without OPF or M3 xDrive. Just couldnt afford the E63 as of now, but then I will :)

  • @jordanhughes3137
    @jordanhughes3137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking to sell my A250 AMG and the market has come back to normal, roughly £13,500-£15,500 for the same type of car. All dealers are offering me is £9,000-£9,500 which is £4-6k cheaper. I understand they need to make a profit but come on….
    Seems like these new used market prices only seems to hurt private sellers?

  • @Astropeleki123
    @Astropeleki123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The same thing happened with the mercedes a class if you see the prices , they are extremely expensive for no reason !!

  • @Likemike_R9
    @Likemike_R9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And here’s me about to buy a used 2023 C43 Premium + . They going for £47k in the UK

    • @marinorossi4594
      @marinorossi4594 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      40k now 9 months later

    • @Likemike_R9
      @Likemike_R9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marinorossi4594 I got my money back luckily car had to many engine faults. Mercedes really ruined the C43

  • @anthonywhite9179
    @anthonywhite9179 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting review I sold my A35 after 2 years and got back 2k more than I paid for it. The used car market then put me in a GLC43 COUPE. However so much interested in the new GLC43 with 4 cylinders but 82k ....the fact I have seen any on the road inc the 63s are people buying them

  • @magoonick
    @magoonick 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new c43s are 145k here in australia new .used facelifts (2018-2020) depending on kms and spec are 65k to 100k . Why would anyone spend an additional 50 to 60k on a new one. You could get 2 used c43s for the same price !
    The used 2018 -2020 are rare to come up on the merc certified used market .. which shows owners are hanging on to them much longer and not trading in for new. Im looking for a 2019 - 2020 c43 fully optioned from merc certified dealer and so far struggling to find one ticks all the boxes . With the important spec options . Its a waiting game here ..

  • @roarbahamut9866
    @roarbahamut9866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The prices are crazy rn. I got my dream car (Porsche Taycan) for around 50k€ under its sticker price. The exact listing price in 2022 was 125k€ as specked and 2 years and 28k KM later, I paid 75k€. I picked it up at the beginning of this year and I still have a smile every time I drive to work ;D
    Having a white car is a pain in the winter tho. Im at the washbox atleast once a week :)

  • @waynemiller1609
    @waynemiller1609 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Supply and demand brother, here in the US you lose 30% the minute you drive off the lot, its just the way it is, if you can’t afford to lose that much money don’t buy it!

  • @samcharles
    @samcharles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn’t buy new again happy to keep a older car and no need to get a new one

  • @mixedblood09
    @mixedblood09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this video. I’ve been doing my research for the AMG you own here in the states and there dropping in price. I’d rather buy a certified pre owned from Mercedes if I did buy direct from the mercedes dealer in order to still get the maintenance packages at a discount. If I was to buy a 45 AMG right now I can buy one for less then 60K with about 15-20K in miles which doesn’t bother me. I think it depends on the buyer if you’re comfortable with a brand new or used vehicle. It’s honestly better to wait a year after a car is released to get a good deal compared to dropping 70K on a vehicle. Its not just Mercedes to I’ve looked up BMW M series and there the same way. I wonder if Mercedes would throw insane maintainence packages or APR like you said to counter it because they won’t be able to sell new cars when consumers can wait a year or longer and save 20K

  • @romsite
    @romsite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally I would get a used a35 Amg for half the price similar 0-62 figures and a very good interior.

  • @lookatcha
    @lookatcha 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes me love my monstrous 6.2 507 even more

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Adam, reverse was true for me - I got a very significant discount on my brand new CLA45s here in Australia in Oct 2023 from the Mercedes dealer because the second hand prices were ridiculously high. For me it wasn't a case of why buy second hand when I could buy new. Did you talk to any Merc dealers before making the video to see what they would sell a new C43 for?

  • @LockDownLife
    @LockDownLife 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! I'm staying far away from new cars atm lol. I'm still looking to buy a 2019 C43, but what are your thoughts on the C43 vs A45S?

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, I have just the video for you here! :) th-cam.com/video/4uxeHQHJoC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KSEJ2W_fpsvE6fvc

    • @lihua3941
      @lihua3941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      depends on how your gonna be using ur vehicle. If you plan on going to the track or using it only as a weekend fun car, then 100% get A45s, but for everyday commutes get 2019 c43. Last year, I was choosing between C63s, C43 or cla45s, and I went with c43. I regret not getting a v8, however I think the c43's amazing sound makes up for the slower speed and worse handling.

    • @leespowart2808
      @leespowart2808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure if it helps but I'm about to be selling my 2019 c43 estate shortly

  • @ashishkp38
    @ashishkp38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fully agree. I just got a used GLE53 for soo much lower than a brand new one

  • @ulysees321
    @ulysees321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not just the C43, check out the new A35h and even the CLA45s plus,

  • @ziaul1991
    @ziaul1991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video, very informative and really helpful
    Subscribed

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @mystergoode
    @mystergoode 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude. Your videos are awesome!
    How did you get that drone shot at the very end where it does a 180 over head and the tracks the rear while you’re driving down that back road? Do you have someone else shooting that or is that a programmed move?

  • @Aslam_Aliyu
    @Aslam_Aliyu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genesis need to make a version that competes with the m3 even if it’s not half as good I’d rather go with Genesis

  • @dunx.6955
    @dunx.6955 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine spending that on a 4 cylinder lol!

  • @nealc9230
    @nealc9230 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad i bought a new car once in my life (Cla45 SB) but also glad i got out of it for no loss after 2 years.... BUT the car i bought was at 120k new and 1 year old, i bought it at 70k so what a loss the last person had :( hoping it doesn't continue to tank and signs are its losing 6k pa at the moment which is just about OK considering i have no fuel bill being electric and low energy costs. But if a 911 comes my way, i might be tempted since they are coming down well!!

  • @ologmcnoleg2487
    @ologmcnoleg2487 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saved just over £19k on a c43 with 30 miles on the clock. I also found BMW taking a similar route but the savings were not as big.

  • @ihavenoname4332
    @ihavenoname4332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello @ABAUTO. seeing you have driven both, the CLA45 and The new C43, which one would you recommend if Comfort and handling were the two most important aspects?

  • @superdlucks
    @superdlucks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought my first Mercedes back in 2019, and it was a C43, Although the performance is amazing, Mercedes, nickel and dimes you for features others give you for free. Customer service is also provided by the worst group on uneducated people. I don't see myself buying another Mercedes, they are not worth the money.

  • @dk1872
    @dk1872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The facelift version was NOT released in 2019 but in late 2018!

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry for the confusion. It might have been released earlier but deliveries were all in 2019 in the UK so I always think 2019. If you want a used facelift the earliest you can get is a 2019.

    • @dk1872
      @dk1872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABAUTOAMG I've got a 2018 68 plate facelift model so pretty sure that's not accurate.

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, I stand corrected then sorry. That must of been one of the first batches. I see many 68 plates (Mine was actually a 68 plate too) that were registered in 2019. I still think it’s easier to refer to the facelift as a 2019 change when looking at used c43s though since there were likely much more pre facelifts registered in 2018 as they arrived towards the end of the year. Guess it does not really matter in the video since the price of the facelift did not change from the end of 2018 to 2019 :)

  • @tonymuir
    @tonymuir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    43 & new 63 are both flopping big time. Discounts and low apr are the only way forward for them. Even when I bought mine 7 months ago, I could have had the c43 estate for a cheaper monthly payment than I was paying on my cla!. All very confusing. Also with the dealers only now being agents for mb, all the discounts have to come from them

  • @IEATU95
    @IEATU95 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love mine got a used one for 55k, original price a year ago was 75

  • @imtall885
    @imtall885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I just got a newer C-Class, and I’m loving it, but I noticed when it’s in Sport+ the upshifts are smooth and great, but when it downshifts it jerks a little and it’s a bit rougher, is it meant to be like this ?

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like normal behaviour to me from my experience with these cars. Sport plus makes the gear changes as aggressive possible.

    • @imtall885
      @imtall885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABAUTOAMG ohhh okay I see, thank you for this, appreciate you

  • @Happytruth
    @Happytruth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why buy a C class or an E class of any description from Mercedes 😂 they’ve already told everyone they are phasing them out for the CLE coupe, and this isn’t just Mercedes it’s every car on the used market.
    Bet your CLA won’t sell for more than 45k now!

  • @MrSlpierce
    @MrSlpierce 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quick question, the white c43 you priced up, was it a private ex owner, or was it an ex demonstrator?, I'm currently looking at A45S AMG's they're around 64k for a new one, but a 6 months old ex demonstrator with less than 1k miles is 50 - 54k ish, this will probably be the biggest purchase I have ever made except for a house, I have been watching prices for months, A35 AMG's have recently been reduced 3k from new, I'm waiting for new prices on the A45S AMG to fall but no sign yet.

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, I’m not sure I think it may have been an ex demo. There were many previously privately owned ones up for 50k though too. 50k seems to be the the price if you want one of the new C43s under a year old. Since the a45s recently had a facelift the new prices will be stable for a little while then better deals might come up. They are good value used though.

    • @MrSlpierce
      @MrSlpierce 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABAUTOAMG What's everyone's thoughts on ex demos with low mileage, I worry if they haven't been run in properly?

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MrSlpierce I think a 1 owner private is better than a demo if I had to choose. Demos are used to showcase the cars so they have sometimes been driven by lots of different people, you just never know. Some are great and just driven by 1 employee though. Like you say too I don’t think the engine gets ran in properly on a demo.

  • @djtyrell8723
    @djtyrell8723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was looking for either a 23 cla45s next or a 22 c43 which do you reckon I should go for

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can’t go wrong with either! Both are great. The c43 is more comfortable and refined while the 45s is a bit more sporty.

  • @labmad5886
    @labmad5886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Won’t let my wife or son go on it let alone anyone else !!! Car isn’t used much with 16k miles. Bit of a toy !

  • @sivanada8865
    @sivanada8865 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be honest, £100K seems affordable like us Asians. Here in Malaysia, a brand new CLA 45 AMG costs around RM520K, which is a ridiculously high price. You're fortunate to have the option of driving good cars within the range of £40K to £100K.

  • @eric_hates_the_poor
    @eric_hates_the_poor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1998 was the first c43 i think.

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel หลายเดือนก่อน

    They call it mild hybrid but its not a hybrid. It doesn't have an electric drive train at all. Its fake.

  • @KennyJosephNiven
    @KennyJosephNiven 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    test drive a new one go back the following day and its used lol

  • @noelfaughnan7540
    @noelfaughnan7540 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Renault engines..why not buy a renault..

  • @lenol0315
    @lenol0315 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People do I have to have other opinions other than oh my God everything Mercedes shits out is good, they’re totally ruining the brand

  • @SuperChunk1775
    @SuperChunk1775 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to be honest i love the new c43

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a great car :)

  • @jasonbarroso8167
    @jasonbarroso8167 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2/3 of the video is just complaining about the price… if u don’t have money for it don’t buy it simple

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      While I appreciate the comment I think you may have missed the point of was trying to make. It’s not that I’m mad that it’s more expensive than the old one for any personal reasons. I’m constructively criticising the increase in price and where it falls in the market. Like I said I like the car but I don’t think it’s as good value as the old one was which is an important factor when reviewing it.

  • @Nickster-jw8ql
    @Nickster-jw8ql 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine spending 70k on a 4 banger 😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @TomHutch-s3d
    @TomHutch-s3d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will watch some of these videos before bed, absolute snooze fest 😂

    • @ABAUTOAMG
      @ABAUTOAMG  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweet dreams I guess! 😅

    • @harrisr1018
      @harrisr1018 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ABAUTOAMGhe’s waffling mate excellent video

  • @torrhthc4103
    @torrhthc4103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    M340 is faster than it and cheaper. Only goons will buy c43. N bmw has the legendary b58 engine. We hv not touch on the M3 yet

    • @labmad5886
      @labmad5886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed with B58 engine. Great engine. However 3 series body so boring and worse still all BMWs have awful Speedo /rev counters design compared to Merc. I have always loved BMW 140i and when I stupidly sold my lovely White Golf R, instead went for a 2020 Merc Silver 4dr C43 V6 just for the sound which is incredible compared to even 140i which I still love (after having a 130i b4 Golf) I love the shape of latest C43 more than mine, just a pity it doesn’t have V6 still !

  • @Obsishock
    @Obsishock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน