OVERRATED: Explaining Controversial Fitness Topics

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  • @batflashzyzz
    @batflashzyzz ปีที่แล้ว +8394

    Idk how Jeff controlled his blood lust the second Dr. Norton said Kiwi was overrated

    • @radfree9370
      @radfree9370 ปีที่แล้ว +202

      Btw you mean overrated right?

    • @Beepintheblip
      @Beepintheblip ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah that moment had me laughing

    • @LowTide941
      @LowTide941 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      I won’t stand for Kiwi hate.

    • @decetes
      @decetes ปีที่แล้ว +345

      I like how they cut the part where Jeff pulled a gun

    • @Stonesands
      @Stonesands ปีที่แล้ว +57

      You can hear his muscles tensing up the moment he said overrated

  • @Deondre_Clark
    @Deondre_Clark ปีที่แล้ว +2236

    "I changed my thoughts on this" is such an indication that Layne is a serious person who bases his beliefs on best available evidence. I really appreciate anyone who is willing to admit they don't know everything and are open to change

    • @ninjanik2095
      @ninjanik2095 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      literally came down to say this

    • @slee2695
      @slee2695 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Good thing..because he's been wrong a lot

    • @meltedsnowman9637
      @meltedsnowman9637 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@slee2695 Like on what?

    • @Deondre_Clark
      @Deondre_Clark ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@slee2695 examples?

    • @corbin101
      @corbin101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts, pure growth mindset.

  • @flamingburitto
    @flamingburitto ปีที่แล้ว +1401

    Honestly I wouldn't mind a one hour version of this where they go in depth and cover even more topics. This was an amazing video especially for newcomers, cuz they can get all this info in bite sized pieces and get a general idea.

    • @mattd8178
      @mattd8178 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m so

    • @naantjez
      @naantjez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd watch an hour long video on most of these subjects they cover. Maybe not on creatine though ;)

    • @shazzakcool
      @shazzakcool ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naantjezqq

    • @tylermorgan1468
      @tylermorgan1468 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, he needs to start a podcast

  • @JokerManiacz
    @JokerManiacz ปีที่แล้ว +1540

    PLEASE make this a series. This is such a fantastic way to convey information AND it’s nice to have two people doing it. Also nice to have you guys vote game-show style so it’s your true opinion. I love this

    • @PEACE17_1
      @PEACE17_1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed

    • @prithviraj1080
      @prithviraj1080 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed

    • @War4Skills
      @War4Skills ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amen man, this is such amazing content more people need to see!!!

  • @remnantofisrael1
    @remnantofisrael1 ปีที่แล้ว +764

    I would PAY for a panel of 4 experts to do this for every question. This is gold

    • @bababooeebababoous
      @bababooeebababoous ปีที่แล้ว +32

      as long as they don't neglect the importance of recreational cocaine

    • @colorblack8305
      @colorblack8305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They literally give Ashwaganda the Green flag 🗿It causes serious Liver failure and no benefits as they claimed.

    • @ayeyebrazorf7527
      @ayeyebrazorf7527 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colorblack8305 causes serious liver failure if you take the wrong dose maybe. If you drink 10 L of water you die as well, I guess that make water dangerous as well. Btw in the real world there is some scientific evidence to support the use of ashwagandha for a variety of health conditions, including:
      Stress and anxiety: Ashwagandha has been shown to reduce stress and anxiety in several studies. For example, a study published in the journal "Phytomedicine" in 2019 found that ashwagandha extract reduced anxiety and improved sleep quality in people with chronic stress.
      Depression: Ashwagandha has also been shown to be effective in treating depression. For example, a study published in the journal "Evidence-Based Complementary and Alternative Medicine" in 2018 found that ashwagandha extract was as effective as the antidepressant medication sertraline in treating depression.
      Fatigue: Ashwagandha can also help improve fatigue. For example, a study published in the journal "Nutrition" in 2015 found that ashwagandha extract improved fatigue and cognitive function in people with chronic fatigue syndrome.
      Cardiovascular health: Ashwagandha may also have benefits for cardiovascular health. For example, a study published in the journal "Phytomedicine" in 2017 found that ashwagandha extract improved heart rate variability, a measure of heart health.
      Blood sugar control: Ashwagandha may also help improve blood sugar control. For example, a study published in the journal "Diabetes, Obesity and Metabolism" in 2019 found that ashwagandha extract improved blood sugar control in people with type 2 diabetes.
      Immunity: Ashwagandha may also have benefits for immunity. For example, a study published in the journal "Frontiers in Immunology" in 2020 found that ashwagandha extract increased the production of white blood cells, which are important for fighting infection.

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colorblack8305 Could you show some proof for that?

    • @ks-ok1oc
      @ks-ok1oc ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@colorblack8305it is herb used from ancient time in india, it has several benefit , I have seen people including myself, using it from years with no side effects

  • @Myyzell
    @Myyzell ปีที่แล้ว +2244

    you should make this a series. it’s very concise and brief with good information

    • @maitreverge
      @maitreverge ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, yes, and YES !! Episode 2 plz !!!!!

    • @boldisordorin9010
      @boldisordorin9010 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yes but they pretty much covered everything already in this episode

    • @agontop1
      @agontop1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree with this!

    • @nochill9722
      @nochill9722 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hope this helps somebody. Renaissance Periodization (Dr. Mike Israetel) has a series on fitness myths. I used to legitimately hate the dude because of some of his earlier takes on certain subjects but man has one of the most informative channels on TH-cam. Love both Jeff and Mike though their presentation styles are vastly different, but Dr. Mike's channel is seriously underrated so.

    • @iskillio
      @iskillio ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@nochill9722 no one cares

  • @GymGarageMan
    @GymGarageMan ปีที่แล้ว +1152

    When I was a kid training and diets were made so complicated! Now I realise its simple..eat sensibly rest well and PUSH it to the limit! Still pushing it even at 52 years old!!!

    • @davehopkin2329
      @davehopkin2329 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Just checked your channel garageman BRUTAL training keep it up grandpa 🔥

    • @charliehaven8517
      @charliehaven8517 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Crazy training garageman you do subbed 💪

    • @lucatamburini69
      @lucatamburini69 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Exactly like there is no good or bad food, people need to realize it’s just about calories in and out and macronutrients, so if a pizza falls within ur macronutrients it will be the same as eating pasta with some toppings ore other foods similar to the macronutrients that you need.
      It’s all about balance and sustainability!!!

    • @chillendw
      @chillendw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Get it!

    • @JohnDoe-pc3uk
      @JohnDoe-pc3uk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lucatamburini69 I mean, there's no hard ruleset on what you can eat and what you can't, but some stuff is harder to fit into a balanced, proper diet.

  • @matts1392
    @matts1392 ปีที่แล้ว +2236

    Jeff kicking his feet and yelling "Nooo" at the Kiwi verdict was hilarious and kind of adorable.

    • @Bearlytherely
      @Bearlytherely ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was actually really cringey

    • @simulatedstring9029
      @simulatedstring9029 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@Bearlytherely cool story bro

    • @rhn4710
      @rhn4710 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Noooo not the heckin' kiwerinoo

    • @joenuts1034
      @joenuts1034 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Bearlytherely Ermmmm actually it was really epic and cool!!!!

    • @anon8633
      @anon8633 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gay

  • @coma13794
    @coma13794 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Incredible. So rare to find sincere, objective videos like this. No hype, just great takes, one topic at a time. Excellent explanations and reasoning, too.

  • @AAG414
    @AAG414 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    having two expert takes on various subjects of interest is pretty damn helpful, I hope this series continues

  • @grimgamer24
    @grimgamer24 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    I love this format of video please do more. A lot of information briefly, but still well described. Love the duo as well!

    • @jon7187
      @jon7187 ปีที่แล้ว

      This should be top comment - the information to time density was great. Broad topics that will allow us to dive into the other videos if we want more info.

  • @mlee2692
    @mlee2692 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Freaking love these videos with you two together! You two need to collaborate more often

  • @pablov1323
    @pablov1323 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    love this collabs. Layne is a treasure for the fitness community

  • @jagdeepsadhale9906
    @jagdeepsadhale9906 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    As a 50 year old, it helps to know that keeping it simple is the way forward. Thanks guys.

  • @TheeDeeM
    @TheeDeeM ปีที่แล้ว +311

    God I love this channel. Gym culture can be so toxic and devoid of discussion and facts, but man these guys actually make me want to try going to the gym again.

    • @birdtj82
      @birdtj82 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah Jeff is very authentic . He doesn’t sell fake info

    • @TheeDeeM
      @TheeDeeM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@birdtj82 the goat

    • @birdtj82
      @birdtj82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheeDeeM u mean Jeff D G.O.A.T. Rite? Not me d goat 🐐? Lol 😂

    • @birdtj82
      @birdtj82 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheeDeeM oh his fiancé , Stephanie Buttermore also super good 👍🏻 authentic youtube influencer! Like so just humble couple so rare ! :)

    • @TheeDeeM
      @TheeDeeM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@birdtj82 lmao both of you are goated

  • @aryansarc
    @aryansarc ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I am a beginner at the gym (~ 2 months), and I have been following your Ultimate PPL series. I can see noticeable growth in my chest and legs man, feeling awesome. Every day I wake up and look forward to going to the gym. Eagerly waiting for Day 2 of PPL. Thanks so much for existing, I got into lifting only because of you!

    • @colmlooney5843
      @colmlooney5843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you are a beginner I wouldnjust be aware of beginner gains at the start. You bulk up quick at the start, but the lomger you go the harder it gets to put on more mass. Keep it up tho king

    • @aryansarc
      @aryansarc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@colmlooney5843 I see, Thanks king.

    • @smileyzz2523
      @smileyzz2523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noobie gainsssss

  • @tgilbs
    @tgilbs ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Not even done with the video and I just had to stop and say this was a super fun format and very well edited -- snappy pacing, the b clips were well used (and funny), and overall, a very informative and fun video. Loved hearing from both of you on these topics!

    • @ford9978
      @ford9978 ปีที่แล้ว

      Second this

  • @TheInostep
    @TheInostep ปีที่แล้ว +171

    The sheer amount of knowledge given in this video is under rated

  • @ferrm1992
    @ferrm1992 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the collab I didn’t know I needed. Love both of your contents

  • @andrewwest8892
    @andrewwest8892 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please do more of this! More Layne. More collabs. More videos like this and especially the other recent workout video with Layne. The workout video was much more entertaining and informative than watching Cbum workout honestly. The little bites of "coaching" throughout the workout and the banter is great for many reasons.

  • @QuintonDolan
    @QuintonDolan ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Really like this short form rapid fire question format with Layne. Do it again. Constraining the response time to a couple of sentences really keeps things concise when we know both of you could talk for ages on any one of the questions.

  • @DiggityDawg9
    @DiggityDawg9 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I’m a very stressed person so with taking ashwaganda I actually feel a lot less stressed at school and at work overall. Good video Jeff.

    • @thaisennj9781
      @thaisennj9781 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Ashwaganda took my ability to feel away. I stubbed my toe and the pain meant nothing. I am no longer emoting.

    • @yashpandey2018
      @yashpandey2018 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@thaisennj9781 lower the dose man and cycle it

    • @bbqsauce7
      @bbqsauce7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What brand / how much do you take? I tried taking Ashwaganda and it just gave me the shits 😂

    • @Caffeine.And.Carvings
      @Caffeine.And.Carvings ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I Tried it and it actually made me more nervous and jittery with no benefits. Had ti stop after a week

    • @justhair17
      @justhair17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@thaisennj9781 that sounds amazing ngl

  • @lisafaser6031
    @lisafaser6031 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Fun way to do some myth-busting. Great rapport with Layne, too. Thanks!

    • @aparksmusic
      @aparksmusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They vaguely said opinions and barely evaluated, especially their stance on organ meats. No myths busted at all haha

    • @disabledfalafel
      @disabledfalafel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aparksmusic “just take the supplements instead” LOL

    • @PrinceDman
      @PrinceDman ปีที่แล้ว

      Liver, literally the most nutritious food in the world is underrated, but kiwi is not . This was merely a fun little skit lol

  • @pipp972
    @pipp972 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very lovely to hear you two emphasize evidence-based fitness and clinical trials over mechanistic explanations so much. Thank you for what you do!

  • @benstringer5699
    @benstringer5699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was so incredibly helpful; thanks to the both of you! Please make this exact style a series- I can't think of a single thing to change.

  • @bunnerkins
    @bunnerkins ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this video. Lightening rounds, no nonsense, just straight to the topics. I'd love to see more of this!

  • @Zokarimoto
    @Zokarimoto ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You two need to do more of these it really helps straightening the fitness community out.

  • @basilez
    @basilez ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I really loved this video. Fast paced style quick informational videos are the best. Really interesting stuff, eventhough most of the information is already know by most of us, it's nice that it's all in one place 👍

    • @Alexor715
      @Alexor715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Much better than Athlean-ish 40mins videos leaving you even more confused.

  • @rose7996
    @rose7996 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Amazing episode, definitely need a series for this topic. There is one thing I would like to say in defence of ice baths/cold showers though. While it doesn't have any direct effect (and possibly negative effects on muscle growth) one thing I found that it helped me with immensely is getting out of the comfort zone. I think the mental benefits of putting your body in a situation that fucking sucks (I hate cold showers even though I do them multiple times a week) is extrapolated into other aspects of my life. For example, I hate running, but my logic is "If I can take a cold shower during the winter months, running isn't nearly as bad". Essentially, doing something that fucking sucks makes doing other things that suck more bareable. I do completely agree that it is overrated though, but for the wrong reasons.

  • @calmsoundsforyou
    @calmsoundsforyou ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would not mind more of this kind of content, you and Layne really are great together! So much information, but never stuffy, really well done!

  • @al3x_k388
    @al3x_k388 ปีที่แล้ว +717

    Jeff taking every opportunity to take a dig at Coach Gregg 😂

    • @joe94c
      @joe94c ปีที่แล้ว +111

      Well deserved too

    • @jellojiggler1693
      @jellojiggler1693 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@joe94c Why? Not seeking to argue or disagree, serious question. Doucette seems really polarizing and I'm not totally certain why.

    • @joe94c
      @joe94c ปีที่แล้ว +242

      @@jellojiggler1693 he always had an abrasive personality but I trusted his content, even if it was difficult at times. Then he released his turkestorone supplement. Right then he became the very thing he used to rally against. An influencer peddling shit. It had no evidence, and he pushed it. Then Jeff called him out and he turned into a man child. I simply don't trust him anymore

    • @Dionysos-
      @Dionysos- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is that?

    • @omglookatme6899
      @omglookatme6899 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@jellojiggler1693 He also insulted Jeff’s girlfriend/took jabs at her, so he’s not too fond of Greg for that either.

  • @MKECBS1
    @MKECBS1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your best video in years hands down Jeff. You hit all the bases. Good stuff!

  • @master0fnone
    @master0fnone ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watch all kinds of fitness content across youtube but the quality and matureness of this is just leaps and bounds over everything else.

  • @Lili-cv1de
    @Lili-cv1de ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nothing new but every video Jeff makes I keep thinking this is the best fitness content all over the internet. Thanks for everything 🎉

  • @kile1058
    @kile1058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lts great seeing experts teach each other! and the nuances behind the “disagreements” even though at the end of the day the same principles are upheld. very informative and helpful!

  • @Fearless154
    @Fearless154 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Couldn't agree more about powerlifting; I have been stuck in a plateau for a long time and kind of got demoralised over the years being in the cycle of no motivation to train and returning after losing muscle mass and getting back into the plateau and repeat.Powerlifting added a lot of fun and motivation for my workouts because my strength grows weekly, and it's very easy to track and notice progression, and I noticed some serious gains. It seems like my body responds better to training within the 5-1 rep range.For a natural intermediate/advanced lifter, trying the powerlifting program can add a lot of new motivation, fun, and excitement to your workouts, and I recommend it a lot.

  • @hansmoleman7280
    @hansmoleman7280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Underated
    2. Sumo Deadlifts
    4. Power lifting for body building
    5. Lifting straps
    14. Creatine monohydrate
    16. Ashwagandha
    Overated
    1. Training to failure
    6. Post workout meal /anabolic window
    7. Organ meats
    8. Detox
    10. Eating clean
    11. Turkesterone. Doesn't promote MPS or MTOR or muscle breakdown.
    12. BCAA
    13. EAA
    15. Testosterone boosters
    17. Ice bath
    18. Sauna
    19. Fasted Cardio
    20. Body fat spot reduction
    21. Toning
    50/50
    3. Full range of motion (50/50)
    9. Kiwi fruit

  • @yashthosar
    @yashthosar ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is such a great video idea. I feel it should become a series and you can even have different guests to know opinions of other big content creators about these topics.

  • @matingilardi
    @matingilardi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, Jeff! This was incredibly helpful in dispelling so many of the myths I had held over the years. Please make this a regular segment with Dr. Layne Norton and/oo other reputable experts in the field.

  • @DanielLopez-qm7kn
    @DanielLopez-qm7kn ปีที่แล้ว

    Every video is well explained and analized throughly from start to finish, im 23, relatively new to this world of fitness and im often overwhelmed by the thousands of books, articles and videos about fitness and muscle growth. Im glad i stumbled across this channel for guidance. Im definitively subscribing.

  • @DevKumar-ex6zb
    @DevKumar-ex6zb ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think training to failure is underrated. Most people don't know what true hard training is like, and most movements apart from the big, heavy compounds, can really be pushed hard. Most people in the gym simply don't know how to train hard and they need to push themselves to deep waters to actually know the dedication this needs to reach a goal physique.

    • @chavez349
      @chavez349 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Failure is super important considering muscles grow from progressive overload. You’ll get stronger faster by going to failure.

    • @nanasenoah8139
      @nanasenoah8139 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been training for 2 months, I train full body and take a day off to rest. I'm in a calorie surplus, do progressive overload and I go to failure on most sets. I've been consistently stronger with each visit to the gym, in a couple months people will think I hop on gear since they are not training properly in the first place lol

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Training to failure should only be done twice a week on a high volume training plan. Just to help prevent burnout if you are doing a full six days a week of training.

  • @torsten6203
    @torsten6203 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Maybe sauna isn't good for building muscle but it has extensive health benefits outside of that, and there are many different types of sauna with varying temperatures, aromatherapy, and steam. Great video!

    • @RyanDaMannn
      @RyanDaMannn ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, the most important gains we can make are to our long term health. Sauna has consistently shown to do this.

    • @danielschurmann7558
      @danielschurmann7558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most importantly: Sauna is sooooo relaxing and a huge reward and reason to go to the gym. If it has any other benefits, the better, but I honestly don't care. :)

    • @MrFunnyman5260
      @MrFunnyman5260 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Not even counting the other benefits, even the psychological, I wish they would comment a little more of that, most fitness influencers just say stuff like "this bad for muscle" and vice-versa, but don't mention the other potential benefits

  • @Riskiaatos
    @Riskiaatos ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Watched the whole video in 20 seconds. It was awesome!😍

    • @xDaveN
      @xDaveN ปีที่แล้ว +13

      holy shit that must be a new PR, it took me 5

    • @Riskiaatos
      @Riskiaatos ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@xDaveN but i had rpe of 6😏

    • @mazedmarky
      @mazedmarky ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you missed the one question he forgot to asked at the end: 'does lifting actually help?'

    • @mazedmarky
      @mazedmarky ปีที่แล้ว

      *statement but it was a question :D

    • @MrSuperbear90
      @MrSuperbear90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the bots are getting funnier

  • @RyanSchimmelpfennig
    @RyanSchimmelpfennig ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg please please please make this a series!!! This was amazing, insightful and educational!

  • @ShBenEd
    @ShBenEd ปีที่แล้ว

    My two favorite YT fitness info people in one place. I love this!

  • @adithya5348
    @adithya5348 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have a video idea Jeff, can you post an unedited version of your entire workout. In one video you said you only workout 20% of the time in the gym, but for some reason I (and other people) feel like we are wasting time between sets. Because of this, I feel bad for just sitting around in the gym and jump into the next set in a hurry which isn't ideal. It would be useful to see this is how it is supposed to be

    • @TheOutlierToday
      @TheOutlierToday ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's not that complex. Rest as long as you need to, but not too much. You're never gonna rest enough to match your first set. But you shouldn't be resting more than say 5 mins between sets of compound movements.

    • @WujiErTaiji
      @WujiErTaiji ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Doing nothing isn't a waste off time it's just preparation for the next set. Not sure why jeff needs you to show this you can trust his word on this one. You're not asking him to show you other things he tells us in full like what supplements to take or would you want to see a unedited video of him taking his supplements? Not trying to be harsh it's just unnecessary. Just rest and prepare for the next set.

    • @jacobdejongh9042
      @jacobdejongh9042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Set a 1 min timer on your phone between each set

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing wrong with waiting between sets, everyone has to do it. I just go on my phone for 2-3 mins to pass the time

    • @lyxsm
      @lyxsm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In your workouts you should spend significantly more time resting than actually doing the movements. About 3 minutes seems to be the best rest time between sets, with a bit more rest for heavy compound lifts and a bit less rest for lower weight exercises. The 60-90 second rest time you often hear seems to be suboptimal and is mostly based on two things: 1) The burning sensation in your muscles is increased when you rest less, which way too many people wrongfully equate with better muscle gain and 2) Gyms want to reduce the time the equipment is unavailable, to maximize their potential paying customers.
      But that being said, resting too little or too much between sets (within a reasonable range ofc) doesn't have nearly as much impact on your gains as the set itself will have.

  • @katelynfraser1406
    @katelynfraser1406 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was an AWESOME video. So much educational info. Sharing this with my clients ASAP thank you Jeff for all the awesome videos!!!!!

  • @EddieLiftsFX
    @EddieLiftsFX ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Creatine + Ashua + Tongat Ali helped me a lot. Been supplementing for 60 days and I’m up a solid 5 pounds tbh and still just as lean, my deadlift 3x3 is now my 5x5. So far so good

    • @dy2084
      @dy2084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you take them all together? Also, which part of the day and with ot without food?

    • @EddieLiftsFX
      @EddieLiftsFX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dy2084 half the dose in the am half a t night of each

    • @stack80
      @stack80 ปีที่แล้ว

      Humerban also seem extremely positive to some of these new test boosters.

  • @DumbfoundedMadman
    @DumbfoundedMadman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed how the explanations were matter of fact and still admitted to personal belief based on the reasons given and didn't try to imply what was being said is absolute truth. Overall, great content. Thank you for your insight and opinions. Personally, I feel this is the type of content that's most beneficial to those like myself trying to make sense of the plethora of combating ideologies within the fitness world. Above all else, I think the best lesson learned from content like this is to follow the science and determine what actually works for one as an individual. Some things can be effective for some and not others, and there's no undisputed truth for all, but there is scientific data to support what actually can affect certain things on an individual level.

  • @karimixon
    @karimixon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely loved this approach to covering multiple categories involving health and nutrition and fitness!

  • @963andrei
    @963andrei ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I tend to train to failure (also I like to do so) because I can feel like I pushed harder tbh. I can't trust myself to go near failure becuase I always have a lot more reps left than I think I do :)))

    • @AhmedKheliil
      @AhmedKheliil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Train beyond failure, these guys are wrong.

    • @floijd
      @floijd ปีที่แล้ว

      Train to equipment failure

    • @innocentrage1
      @innocentrage1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty much the same thing. It's just easier and more effective to train to failure than say do 8-12 reps like most work out programs say, which may not be at all near failure for someone

    • @theunicornbay4286
      @theunicornbay4286 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@innocentrage1i train 20+ reps per set to reach failure

    • @slampest
      @slampest ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AhmedKheliil naah. Go further than that. Take that failure beyond just training. Fail in your lovelife as well. Fail in your studies as well. Fall into a huge economic debt and fail to get out of it. Fail making your parents proud of you. Fail eating well and get fat.

  • @prymexxxx
    @prymexxxx ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very informative and compact video. Love this format!

  • @jcqlopes
    @jcqlopes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My two favourite science-based training and nutrition communicators in one video

  • @trentparks7047
    @trentparks7047 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two of my favorite fitness people on a great collab. Thank you!!

  • @picarddelta
    @picarddelta ปีที่แล้ว

    This format is great! Concise and useful. Would love to see a whole series in this vein.

  • @steinj
    @steinj ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SCIENCE!!!! Idk why science seems to be the last thing people talk about when the topic is workouts.. they go to "what looks or seems like it works" even though it's based on absolutely nothing. Thanks so much for sharing some real knowledge with us

  • @growingstruggle5493
    @growingstruggle5493 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video guys! these 13 minutes flied by, you kept it simple, engaging and intructional, all while breaking down myths that went on for years, this video is masterclass on content creating.

  • @ChunkyROX
    @ChunkyROX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bias on kiwi from jeff😂 @4:48

  • @wastepreserve
    @wastepreserve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was awesome haha they both obviously care about truthful data and it was great to see them agreeing on so much

  • @ryno3888
    @ryno3888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I enjoyed how it encompassed so many topics. I would love to see an extended version of this, with more elaboration on each topic.

  • @thefriendlyjb
    @thefriendlyjb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:05 Andrew Huberman talked about ice baths on his podcast and I think he said that it increases Dopamine. And he said that it‘s a myth that icebaths „reduce“ gains/muscle growth

  • @benedekistvan2655
    @benedekistvan2655 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Haven't read the studies on ice baths negatively effecting hypertrophy but I can attest to them improving my mental health,pain tolerance,immune system etc.

    • @bcolkesen2910
      @bcolkesen2910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. I guess they were talking strictly muscle growth and not the other mental benefits.

    • @hisholiness5455
      @hisholiness5455 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They decrease hypertrophy if you do them like right after lifting. Do them before working out or 6-8 hours after is recommended (Andrew Huberman, Squat University, etc) to get the benefits and not interfere with hypertrophy.

    • @ragnaraxelson59
      @ragnaraxelson59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hisholiness5455 i dunno. seems like sum bullshit

    • @2ShakeJake
      @2ShakeJake ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What I've heard is that these ice baths reduce inflammation which interferes with muscle growth. At least according to huberman. I'm no expert though

    • @lamrof
      @lamrof ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What I know is ice baths make me feel very cold.

  • @ToxicSmoif
    @ToxicSmoif ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As far as I'm aware, cold plunging directly AFTER working out is what can stunt muscle growth. I have no doubt that influencers hop in for a moment to 'look cool', but there are also genuine benefits to a cold plunge practice when done right - and from what I know, doing cold submersion BEFORE working out is completely fine for muscle growth. In fact it is shown to temporarily boost testosterone, dopamine, energy etc... therefore potentially enhancing your workout.
    Not to mention the mental health, immune system, cardiovascular system benefits, and probably more, but I guess that's a different topic. I think there needs to be a lot more research into this.

    • @kristianfagerstrom7011
      @kristianfagerstrom7011 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair point - but the hype IS plunging into ice baths after training sessions/matches - not winterbathing as recreation. I've not seen any studies about ice baths before training,do you have any links?

    • @El.Seabass
      @El.Seabass 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, I think these guys are talking specifically about bodybuilding or muscle growth. Because Ice baths, as you said, have more benefits on the mental or psychological side, that they left out of the discussion.

  • @DaKingBalla06
    @DaKingBalla06 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, love the format. Quick, good info, and hits lots of topics.

  • @osman.muhammad
    @osman.muhammad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make this a series. Was super helpful bite-sized information!

  • @bk5710
    @bk5710 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great vid. Gotta remember this is discussed in the context of maximizing muscle growth and appearance. I take cold showers every morning, and while it may slightly negatively impact my hypertrophy (honestly I don't notice much of an impact, everyone is different), the benefits I get from immediate increased energy, focus, lowered anxiety, and general feeling of well being make it 100% worth it for me

    • @giovac.6814
      @giovac.6814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe they refer to cold showers or baths just after the training, not as you wake up.. unless you trained all night with your partner 😅

    • @dawoodbayat8460
      @dawoodbayat8460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They negatively impact hypertrophy if done in the immediate window after lifting (believe it's within a 3 hour window post-session)

    • @Terenxe2750
      @Terenxe2750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Taking a cold shower also does not show the same effects according to andrew huberman, since you have to be fully immersed in cold water for atleast a couple minutes… so cold showering alone definitley can give you some wake up kick or focus when done in the morning, also confidence boost. But i also started to not cold shower after my workouts anymore since a warm shower just helps your muscles recover.

  • @oaschbeidl
    @oaschbeidl ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Ice baths have been a massive positive game changer for me personally, but not related directly to muscle gains but to immune function. I used to get sick like 6x a year for 2-3 weeks at a time and it fucked up any consistency in my workouts I was trying to build. Started regular cold showers and ice baths and boom - got sick like 2-3 times in the 4 years since I started and I'm much more consistent as a result. I try to space it as far away from my workout as possible in any given day though so I don't cut down on beneficial inflammation so much.
    I am also able to relax much more in any kind of weather. Cold, wet, grey skies? Doesn't matter, my body can handle it. Super hot in summer, everyone's just reduced to a vegetative stage? Doesn't matter, my body can handle it. I used to be very sensitive in that regard too.

    • @asana_awakening
      @asana_awakening ปีที่แล้ว +23

      THIS! I don’t think anyone using cold water exposure/ice baths is thinking it’s going to get them jacked with lots of gains 😂 it’s for the other health benefits that HAVE been shown in studies. I have an autoimmune disease and it’s been a game changer for me too.. and I can notice a difference when I’m not doing it as much. I do like the point you brought up though with trying to space it out away from your workout, I’ll probably do the same because I didn’t realize it could have possible negative effects in that way.

    • @Proteus8855
      @Proteus8855 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed 👍

    • @DavidDavyDavidson
      @DavidDavyDavidson ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jesus Christ, I'd rather get sick and die than take an ice bath.

    • @SiSi-xg1hk
      @SiSi-xg1hk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only use cold showers as a precursor to hot showers when I am experiencing significant soreness in my muscles, especially my back. It's basically IcyHot, ice to dull the pain & heat to relax the muscles 😅

    • @nietrelevant3338
      @nietrelevant3338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This, from a muscle building PoV ice baths don't provide benefits. But from a Healthy living perspective they have tons of benefits.

  • @come.tothinkoffit
    @come.tothinkoffit ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stopped taking ashwagandha and my anxiety went through the roof! I actually find it better for my OCD and anxiety than Sertraline (Zoloft/Lustral). Great for sleep too.

    • @birdtj82
      @birdtj82 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take Sauna steam for 2 weeks straight !
      U should watch the Dr Eric Berg -- video about sauna 🧖🏻‍♀️!
      - need To bring water 💦 with bit salt 🧂 instead of plain for electrolyte , drink 5 min before going in
      - need to breath Out SLOW . Most ppl breath out rapid !
      It release bunch of depamjne n etc related things to calm ppl down .
      Usually it happens 10 min in .
      N usually the magic happens when doing it consistently for 5-7 days . Re sets all sorts things in d body . Like 14 Day straight can really up over all body health for couple months .

  • @Cheefstir
    @Cheefstir ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jeff, thank you! You have no idea how much these videos have impacted my life.

  • @joshuanoyce8794
    @joshuanoyce8794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! Would love to see a longer version with more topics and more in-depth.

  • @Weeho_
    @Weeho_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved it. Very interesting about ice baths. I never looked at them from the muscle building standpoint. Unfortunate =/ I'll still do them tho, for the reason I started doing them in the first place which is hardening the mind over matter and surge of energy after, love that feeling 😂

  • @Antonio_Serdar
    @Antonio_Serdar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I practice everything that they found underrated and none of the overrated stuff lol.
    Feeling pretty good about this one

  • @JuanPabloSecundo
    @JuanPabloSecundo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sauna in terms of pure hypertrophy and performance standpoint doesn't do anything, however in terms of your immunological system it is proven to help a lot. Also the risk of cardiovascular diseases gets a bit smaller.

    • @3n3j0t4
      @3n3j0t4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and helps cut water weight if you wanna look leaner

    • @3n3j0t4
      @3n3j0t4 ปีที่แล้ว

      temporarily

  • @theenforcer22
    @theenforcer22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great questions, very informative answers & well delivered.

  • @JPRWP
    @JPRWP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First thing… What a great video! More just like this please! Now I get the video was under/over rated for muscle growth but all of the research and benefits I’ve seen towards ice baths and sauna had nothing to do with it. In fact I’ve heard multiple people say never do ice plunge or cold showers after workouts because it messes with hypertrophy but it’s ok to do before. Sauna was always ok to do. Then again I do get it. This was a video for muscle growth

  • @piotrnowak7730
    @piotrnowak7730 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The more people watch this, the better it will be for the entire fitness community.

    • @lamrof
      @lamrof ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned long ago almost 100% of hypes passed like wearing novelty. I don't trust hypes, before, now and in the future. I trust various scientific studies that appear over a decade.

  • @BrawnyKingFitness
    @BrawnyKingFitness ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Agreed with most of the points. Still I do not believe that BCAAs or EAAs are useful cause normal whey protein contain them in the same or even larger quantities.
    And taking them to avoid muscle loss during fasted workouts is also not necessary. Most weight training workouts barely burn any calories to cause protein loss, catabolism or muscle loss. I workout in a fasted state early in the morning and never had any issues.

    • @brarautorepairs
      @brarautorepairs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having 3 grams of leucine with each meal is beneficial however it doesn't have to come from a supplement. BCAA can also support you during intensive exercise. You definitely will trigger catabolism from fasting. The body definitely will break down proteins but isn't a big deal if you're still getting sufficient calories in your diet. But fasting work out is more of a preference than a requirement.

  • @NightNinja540
    @NightNinja540 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE this video/discussion format. Everything is very concise and while still providing valuable insight. Hope you do more of these in the future!

  • @nicknazarchyk907
    @nicknazarchyk907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. You went through many topics in a short amount of time. Thanks!

  • @USC5440
    @USC5440 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think there should be a distinction in timing when talking about ice baths. It only has a negative impact on hypertrophy when it is done post workout (it can have a negative impact for up to 6 hours post workout), but doing it apart from your workout, it can have not only metabolic benefits by increasing "brown fat" (potentially minor when it comes to fat loss/body composition, especially for somebody that is already fairly lean), but also studies seem to indicate it can significantly increase your dopamine levels and they stay elevated for up to 4-6 hours post ice bath.

    • @lamrof
      @lamrof ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you tried it, seen a big difference?

  • @kendallhackney3156
    @kendallhackney3156 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bro actually sounded like a mad toddler when he overrated kiwi 😂😂

  • @alextamas3778
    @alextamas3778 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really interested in this-> wasn't it shown that ice baths or almost any alleged exposed to coldness increases testosterone which can lean to increased muscle mass?

    • @MultiGoban
      @MultiGoban ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not after a workout. They decrese muscle gains. So while they are incredible for mental and physical health, you shouldnt do them in the hours after a workout. So maybe before a workout is best 👌 . However as long as you are not an actual bodybuilder I think the health benefits outweight any muscle gain losses honestly.

  • @Fyre_Blake
    @Fyre_Blake 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well done video Jeff!
    The content is excellent! 👏
    P.S. The voice off screen starting topic prompts is a bit amusing.

  • @Vince_atp
    @Vince_atp ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid, very informative, loved every min!
    I'd love to see more vids like this! It was nice seeing updated summaries of each big topics from 2 individuals well versed in these topics

  • @77Million
    @77Million ปีที่แล้ว +10

    @2:27 looks like he was reaching for a drink

  • @theoriesbanana
    @theoriesbanana ปีที่แล้ว +27

    About the ice baths, I wonder what your opinions are on the mental benefits. That seems to be where the discussion is going, changing away from the physical benefits, and there seems to be decent evidence for mental benefits. I've seen the suggestion of ice shock in the morning and then a normal warm shower after a workout

    • @jessefischer7899
      @jessefischer7899 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Their comments on that (and a lot of other things due to the rapid fire of this video) lack nuance… yes there’s solid evidence to support ice baths reducing hypertrophy within the 6 hours after training but is great for your brain and metabolism and does not significantly effect hypertrophy if done before training. Morning cold exposure has dramatically changed my life from a mental health standpoint.

    • @superlenny9225
      @superlenny9225 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes and also he did a really poor job expalining the inhibition of muscle building, if you wait around 4 hours after workout it doesnt seem to negatively affect muscle building/adaptions

    • @nicholkid
      @nicholkid ปีที่แล้ว

      Before they were a meme I knew of a pro cyclist who used them to train their 'edge' and in that use case it makes perfect sense. Training your ability to deal with extreme discomfort.

    • @functionalaestheticse.c.8953
      @functionalaestheticse.c.8953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel way more focused and positive after an ice bath. Although potential dangerous ice bath Pre-workout increases workout intensity anecdotally.

    • @Thesmithsarelife
      @Thesmithsarelife ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah cold showers and ice baths really can improve mental health especially dopamine also can be good for fat loss if you can shiver. But it is counterproductive for muscle gain especially after a workouts

  • @TheTck90
    @TheTck90 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Finland we go to Sauna and then ice swimming. Can't believe your overrated both😭

  • @One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All
    @One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just LOVE this! Please make more! Please ❤
    I have like 1000 more questions!

  • @agneevX
    @agneevX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this one!

  • @baphometanark8059
    @baphometanark8059 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gonna make a stand for Ashwagandha being under rated, because since I started to taking it made a huge change in my life. Greater recovery, better sleeping, less soreness, higher libido. When I tryed a new brand that was cheaper, I could see that it was a fake product in a few weeks, because I was getting more tired and more stressed. I'm pretty sure it might not work for everybody, but for me it's a must having nowadays!
    Edit: since most people asked, Im using ashwaghanda extract (500mg dose, 2x per day), from SunFoods. 8 months now.
    At first I buy just for trying(pretty sure I saw it in a older Jeff's video) didnt see immediate results. But when I was almost a full week without it, I was feeling really sh'tty, same way when I tryid to change brands.

    • @bunny2chandu
      @bunny2chandu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which form do you take it? Pills? Powder? And could you recommend the dosage and a good brand too please? Thank you

    • @jeangtech1830
      @jeangtech1830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What brand do you recommend and which one are you using bro?

    • @isk8atparks
      @isk8atparks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      very curious to hear what brand you found to be good. I tried Pure Encapsulations for 2 months, but didnt really notice a difference.

    • @bbqsauce7
      @bbqsauce7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm going to also ask what brand / how much you take. I tried taking it before and it just gave me the shits and I would to give it a shot and see if it helps my anxiety

    • @someasiankid6323
      @someasiankid6323 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      placebo

  • @jujubee4249
    @jujubee4249 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how they delivered their explanations. Basically the big take away is “there’s nothing that’s going to magically make you fit”. The message is lift hard, eat reasonably, and sleep well.

    • @soonahero
      @soonahero ปีที่แล้ว

      Roids?

    • @jujubee4249
      @jujubee4249 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soonahero i mean, these muscle building principles still apply to whether you’re natural or enhanced. It’s not one or the other lol. Not every conversation about fitness needs to be about roid use.

    • @soonahero
      @soonahero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jujubee4249 roids build muscle without training

  • @heyheytaytay
    @heyheytaytay ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've had issues with anxiety since my 20s (generalized anxiety and panic disorder) and NOTHING has had such a profound impact on my overall anxiety than ashwagandha. I wish I had discovered this stuff years ago. It's literally the only thing I can take that has a noticeable effect with absolutely zero side effects including no dependency or addiction. Add that to the fact that I sleep better and generally just feel better, and I'll never stop taking it. I highly recommend everyone just try it for 3 days, see how you feel, and thank me later.

    • @mystic95
      @mystic95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's surprising. How often and how much do you take? And where do you get it?

    • @thor498
      @thor498 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would try it for a few weeks. It sometimes can take some time

  • @kwerby3285
    @kwerby3285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Jeff’s dedication to the blooper clips for each topic 😂

  • @RAGWT
    @RAGWT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video guys loved this

  • @BOO-dq4vl
    @BOO-dq4vl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:02 that’s the reason I don’t subscribe to these guys .
    Food can never replace supplements
    And multivitamins supplements supports and research is not optimal and its artificial and preservative and all the crap.

    • @birdtj82
      @birdtj82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with u. I started doing multi vitamins last while i do fee little better but I think its placebo tho. I dont know.
      I do support Jeff Nippard. Because i took bio science in school all the stuff he says pretty much SPOT ON as they teach by research scientist in school.

    • @nisaac1216
      @nisaac1216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he meant other meat when he said something else.

  • @jayringo77
    @jayringo77 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a lightbulb moment during the nutrition segment. I'm what I describe as "at home vegan" - no animal product when I eat/cook at home; however, there are not enough plant based options worth spending my money on in most restaurants so I'm an omnivore when I go out. I continually struggle with daily protein and honestly never even thought to consider EAAS or BCAAS. Great video, love the discussion with Dr. Norton, please do this again from time to time to help us wade through the interweb and social media quagmire of bunk science and opinions presented as fact.

    • @lucasseuren4180
      @lucasseuren4180 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could just take an (additional) good quality vegan protein shake, typically a lot cheaper than buying pure EAAs or BCAAs and they contain the necessary EAs :) I've been eating vegan for like 7 years now, and I've never struggled with protein or specific EA intake. I don't see a reason to fork over a shit ton of money for BCAAs when you can get the same benefits from a regular and much cheaper protein supplement.

    • @MrPtrlix
      @MrPtrlix ปีที่แล้ว

      there are regular vegan protein powders made from peas, etc. no need to buy bcaa specifically.

  • @aengle.
    @aengle. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The ice-baths may not help with muscle gain, but they have a lot of longevity benefits.

    • @na-ky8ou
      @na-ky8ou 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Researches to support it: 0

  • @benzadibillel518
    @benzadibillel518 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved that video, that 13 minute was like 2 minute, and it touched so many subject with the specific and short answers...for complex subject.

  • @rickrush
    @rickrush ปีที่แล้ว

    Because of the lead in snippets I thought this video was going to take shots at Jeff Cavaliere but glad to see it didn't. Loved the video. Please do more like this

  • @toompie69
    @toompie69 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a PhD in bro science.