I am not sure if you did made already a video about it Jeff, but maybe about the subject bracing and the use of a belt, etc. Pelvic rotation and "ass to grass" squat? Thank you for your content Jeff! We miss Steph!
The way Dr. Mike breaks things down is incredible. For example, "If you're not progressing, trying to get sore is probably a good idea" is so simple and concise a way to elucidate his stance. Love him.
I used to get sore by going heavy. I've lightened the weights recently and been going low and slow into my reps and getting more gains (on Daddy Mike's instructions) and not getting as sore. So I feel he is right on both counts.
@@ThiefOfNavarre What do you mean low and slow? Slow reps, I get it, but what do you mean low? The negative portion of the movement, "stretching it" to the max?
Yes, but it was also the wrong conclusion from the meta-analysis, @jeffnippard. The figure shows the slope of RIR and muscle size, but not low RIR (1-2) vs. no RIR on muscle size... If you look at the data points for 1-2 RIR, they actually seem higher (on average) than the 0 RIR group, suggesting that low RIR might actually be better, or more likely, that low vs. no RIR are not significantly different from each other in their relation to muscle size. Nevertheless, I love how much you integrate science content, so I've just subscribed.
@@prexzah training to failure with assisted reps is fair, even still i would say only good towards end of workout. because start-mid workout you probably better off conserving energy for next set, but partials is a no no, you are missing out on so much. mike would actually slap you for doing partials 😂. when training alone going to failure on things like bicep, i doing single arm and use the other arm for the assisted reps, looks a bit weird but is effective
My only problem with gym filming is when people get upset when you walk in front of their camera. You're in a public space, this isn't your personal studio.
Americans have a word definition for public space. You have to pay to go there, it's owned by someone, it they don't want you they can call the police to throw you out, how's that public?
It's much worse over here, multiple tripods are set up intentionally so you can literally not enter the area without being in danger of falling yourself or knocking one down, and when you do enter they act like they own the place.
Love the part 4:19, when Dr. Mike says "no one read the study," and Jeff just smiles and laughs. Instead of editing out this moment or changing his answer, Jeff chose to leave this bit behind. Shows that Jeff is humble to admit he may be wrong in some things and isn't arrogant enough to pretend to know everything. Nothing wrong with not knowing everything in a given topic. Everyone should strive to continue learning.
I mean yes, but now everytime Jeff shows a study to prove a point he's making, I'm going to wonder if he actually read and understood the study or just googled, got the first study with a title that matched what he wanted and then cherry picked one or two lines without understanding the full context.
“Filming” isn’t the issue, it’s basically just all the problems with social media and turning spaces away from their intended purpose towards the all-consuming purpose of “content creation”
fine with some educational filming in gym but consistant recording and publishing for Tik Tok or TH-cam is weird and should be discoraged at that point just build your own gym
Yeah, obviously the doctor in physiology recording his lesson, is completely different from some clown chimping out because your deadlift shook their phone that was propped up by an empty bottle. They totally missed the mark on that one XD nobody complains when Scorsese rents a street for hir new 3 hour project, they get mad when Mabelline does it for their shitty ads
I think the primary reason I dislike filming or even snapping pictures in the gym is that unless you’re alone you’re inevitably posting people who may be feeling vulnerable for the world to see. It’s easy to brush it off with the bro answer of “just ignore the negativity” when we’re already making progress, or already look good but honestly, a huge reason a lot of people who really need the gym avoid it is that they’ve been put down and mocked their entire life. Exposure therapy doesn’t work for everyone, we already know this, and to me enabling a space people may be afraid to be in to begin with become the breeding ground for further mockery even if they’re just in the background is selfish. “High end gyms” might be more okay with it, as I’d expect only the super dedicated body builders etc are in there, but commercial gyms are supposed to be where people get started and if they have a provable reason to avoid going in at all, we’ve failed them.
I think it's ridiculous really. I think you shouldn't have to bring up such specific scenarios to validate that filming is questionable. I don't want to be on some strangers video while working out. Yes a gym is a public space but not as public as an open market square etc. People shit on privacy rights left and right already and I think it's inherently wrong to establish common grounds that you have to accept that you might be filmed in every situation in your daily life. Especially when there are people with a huge fanbase that lead to great exposure. It would be different, if people would be respectful with the video material they produce, but it's become common practice to bait peoples reactions to expose them for clicks. And this hits deeply into what you criticized, some people are already scared to be judged in person but this is even more extreme. That being said we have the technology to easily blur out bystanders, which would be my personal compromise. You cannot ask everyone to consent to your filming, which would be the "ideal" way of publishing videos including strangers so this is the only sensible solution for people doing social media in public.
Actually a gym isn't public. Public either mean owned by the government or a place people can freely come & go without paying. A gym is private and therefore you not allowed to film, live stream, or even snap 1 photo by default. The default is not "film & see if anyone says anything" it is a private place, filming is prohibited automatically unless you get active consent of everyone there. Meaning unless you go around asking everyone in the gym if you can film first, that camera shouldn't even be out.
I am LOVING the fact that both of you are very respectful of each other's answers, based on separate experiences and knowledge base. It's rare to see in a world run by socials where people will agree with popular opinions just to stay relevant and well liked. LOVE THIS.
The problem I have with filming in the gym is the time it takes for people doing it to set up their shots. The in between checking of the shots. The retakes they do if not getting the perfect shot. And finally and worst of all, the attitude they get if you bomb their shot while going about your routine. In a commercial gym, with limited equipment, it's bad etiquette to camp out on that equipment because you think you're the next IG or TikTok fitness phenom.
That’s not a filming in the gym problem, that’s a people being assholes problem. I don’t film on the gym but I’m fine w it as long as you’re respectful of others
Not only that, people filming tend to take up equipment for longer periods of time. Telling us to "just deal with it" is actually pretty inconsiderate.
It has been categorically proven and lawfully ruled that you have no semblance of privacy or guarantee of privacy when you are in a public space. You cannot expect anyone to respect your privacy when you chose to enter the public space and have ultimately invaded their "private space" as well. What we need to accept is that, if you don't wanna be in someone's video, be an adult and remove yourself or ask them if they can film after you've left. Don't put your responsibility and accountability on someone else.
As a content creator, I feel that your opinion on filming in the gym is incredibly biased. As someone who doesn't make a living off of content creation, I find it extremely bothersome when I see people with tripods set up recording (especially with mirrors around). Regular gym goers shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable working out because they might end up on someone else's Instagram. While you mention that it's fine as long as "you're not bothering anyone", many people are already uncomfortable that you are recording and may not want to cause a bigger scene by asking you to stop or by engaging gym staff. Just because you aren't approached to stop or to record somewhere else, doesn't mean you aren't bothering people.
The contribution of you both to the fitness industry is absolutely priceless. Thank you for all your work Mike and Jeff! A loyal supporter from years and years back ♥️ -Gabo
The issue arises when people occupy multiple spaces to film, shame others for watching or posting their content on social media, mock unconventional workouts shared online, or get upset when someone passes through their filming area. In a public gym, everyone has the same rights to space. While I'll try to be considerate around cameras, I prioritize my own workout and expect the same respect in return.
"There's tripods everywhere, so what? walk around, there's also machines everywhere". Yeah, there are machines everywhere because guess what, you are in a fvcking gym and you need them for training. Narcissists have turned gyms into film studios and yet we have to apologize to these freaks for not wanting to appear in their stvpid videos.
Filming at the gym should 100% be banned. Most people have to take every ounce of courage just to step in a gym where they think theyll be safe and now they have to worry about being in videos where millions might see them? Gyms are not public. Go outside and film yourself. Not inside where you expect some privacy, even if you'll be seen by other gym goers. What a bad big ego take by roiders
@@Limitless_Doom I'm going to lean my phone precariously against my water bottle to film my PB, and then show it later to my mom and 2 cats, and you can't stop me!
Yea...disagree with these guys...if I gotta squeeze around your stupid tripod to get to the equipment due to the fact tmyou aren't getting enough attention, then you are a Douche
Being filmed in the gym is not the same as just existing in public spaces. Someone just seeing me in public won’t have a record of me to then share with as many people as they like. The number of videos being uploaded to TikTok where assholes film other people and accuse them of creeping, or just mock them… it almost makes me never want to go again. So maybe it’s great if you’re already super jacked, but as a beginner and old lady, letting people film me in the gym, even incidentally, feels horrifying.
Isn’t half the issue, that the people filming themselves get mad when someone else walks through their shot? Same with the crazy tiktokers that get mad at anyone who „ruins their shot“ by just walking in public. The gym is not a film studio, and people aren’t extras in your TikToks/monetized youtube videos.
Yeah how about he only films in the gym if it’s his own gym 🙄 the gym should be a safe space for everyone to exist, if people want to film in it then rent it out.
Of course it's a take you'd expect from youtubers who make a living from filming in the gym. But I agree. For the average person, I'd say it's fine to record yourself if you can keep others out of your shot, but otherwise it's just rude and not respectful to everyone else.
Love the part he just said about psychologically draining yourself. Of course I am psychologically drained after a good workout, but I feel like sometimes on sets if I just breath out, or calm down and focus on contacting the target muscle, instead of just trying to freak out as hard as I can to put myself into an even higher level of hyperarousal, helps create better gains too.
The thing about filming in Gyms is you can not expect people to not walk in front of your camera. That's the core issue. As joey swole as shown, so many influencers get so mad when someone else exists in the gym. Those influencers are the problem.
I completely agree with that. Filming in gyms is fine, so long as the gym allows it, its pretty much a public space. Getting mad when other people use that public space for its intended purpose? stupid and disrespectful.
@@martinclarke2903I mean, that’s pointless and petty too. If it’s in your way that’s fine to walk through the shot as long as your not trying to purposely be a dick, but if they’re just filming themselves and understand how to not be rude about it and don’t get angry at people for walking past(as long as it’s not malicious) then who fucking cares. 😅
there are defintely ways to not walk in front of a camera just like everywhere else in the world when people are taking pics alot of people will try and walk around to not interrupt its just polite. Now if you cant or dont see the camera thats ok. It does take two to tango both sides need to understand human decency
Thank you guys. This is super helpful! This format gets right to the meaty questions without beating around the bush. From two guys who are jacked in their own right, it feels great to hear this advice.
I actually see the value in natty or not videos. When I was a teenager, I used to lift with a guy in his 30s. We would do the same workouts together but he would see great results, and I would typically get injured, or so sore that I couldn't recover in just a week. I've been an athlete since I was little, and I was a 6'2 180 pound teen. I really though I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time. I had body image issues for years after that, it's good for people to know what is and isn't possible without drugs. A lot of people, especially young people, think you can outwork someone on steroids and even the playing field, when in reality you literally can't "outwork" someone on steroids, the whole point of the drug is it makes you recover quicker
Isn't that more an attitude problem than if some random person is natty or not? You could have easily ran into somebody with great genes that would achieve much better results than you using the same routine. The guy from your story not being natty is just random chance. I started going to the gym for the first time in my life a year ago (at the age of 38), and pretty much everybody at that gym is doing better than me. But, I'm better than myself a month ago. And way much better than myself a year ago. Always there at the same time, 6 days a week. And that's enough for me. Also, I'm a bit old to have body image issues lol. You do you man, forget about other people. Most of them are not worth the attention anyways lol
@@zoranvujovic998 No lol you're not even close to being right. Good genetics and gear are two different things. A grown man telling a teenager that he's natural and having him do his exact workouts, that's entirely different than having a friend that happens to look better than you. It's hilarious that I said "don't abuse steroids and lie to kids about it" and someone of course had to pop in and be like "You're wrong :(". The internet is a wild place
@@peterk.2108 "I really thought I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time" was in my original comment. By stating that, I thought I was implying that I thought I had bad genetics while I was training with him, until the dude revealed that he was juicing at a later time.
(13:35) With respect, I disagree on this point. Me leaving my house does not automatically equate to me consenting to become someone else's content on their social media channel. ...I'll also admit that this is a bit of a kneejerk reaction on my end, so I'm curious to hear people (on both sides of the argument) flesh this out more. How is it consent (on my part) if I can't revoke it? For people who want more control over their depiction, are we expected to never leave our homes? Or is agency over my image just a fantasy at this point? (These are genuine questions on my part. I understand that this is part of a larger, much more complex conversation around privacy, data, public life, [interpersonal] safety, freedom of movement, and more.)
While you may not consent internally legally in a public space you are at the mercy of public laws. Look up any first amendment auditors that do this shit to rile people up. It’s usually a video of some jerk filming people in public spaces that don’t want to be filmed. It ends with cops being called on said first amendment auditor and sometimes physical altercation. But the auditor is in the legal right and usually can either get really good content or a pay day for being in the right of the law. Super shitty situation especially since while it is a right most people morally won’t film someone who doesn’t want to be filmed
@@Travestygyms are not public space though so you can absolutly refuse to be filmed and you are free to walk anywhere. If the gym has security camera's the contract you signed will say you gave permission to be filmed for security reasons.
I agree with you. The best way to deal with it, is just say off side shit while they are filming and they will edit you out hahaha. If they dont, o well, people will get a good laugh at least.
Best advice: don't try to be perfect. This allowed me to train almost consistently since i was 14 or something and now I'm 30. It's ok to train 3 times a week or to not have the best most effective routine sometimes. It's important to be consistent over being perfect. I had my younger days when i hated even having 1 rest day. But those days r over
Also things can be changed. In some cases the change is always a welcome thing when it comes to exercise routines. The consistency aspect is also very important with the sleep/nutrition for getting better results.
3 times a week is more than anyone other than pro bodybuilders need, lmao. For the first few years 2 per week is enough for most people if you add other types of training like cardio.
@greenlitlleman my best shape was when i was obsessed with BB. But it's not sustainable because it took over my life. I agree or what I'm doing rn. 5 times a week but very short sessions. Cause i train at home
@@CryptoAshknI'll lose my mind if i don't train 6x a week. I don't know why, it's just like default thing to do on my schedule. Sure we should prioritize resting above all else so we don't get injured since we're not athletes but still. I do know from experience how fragile a body is when under extreme fatigue like you'll get injured from the stupidest things like one ego lift and poof wrist problems, one experimental partial bench press poof tennis elbow, one stupid technique day doing overhead press boom lower back strain, one stupid PR attempt on squats boom glute strain like bruh it doesn't end. What I do now is I try to take it easy, I'm thinking of removing my delts day and just split the heads with chest, back, leg day and I think my soul is OK with that compromise.
This video feels like a warm hug. great information and quite educational. They're also so respectful when disagreeing with each other. Love this content 😊
I think you missed a few major reason why we hate filming in gym. 1. The culture of people making fun of others just trying to workout and mind their own business, or complaining that someone walked through their shot like they own the place. 2. The people filming think they have the right to monopolise equipment for ages. Playing on their phones more than lifting. 3. It's indicative of the "look at me" generation, who are desperate for attention and are just plain irritating.
Moreover, this idea of "you're out in public anyway" heavily varies by jurisdiction. In most European countries being out in public is not consent to be filmed.
No2 by far the most irritating. Why do I have to endure 4 sets of hip thrusts supersetted with 10 sets of filming and insta scrolling just to do my 2 sets of chest on the smith machine.
90% of people filming themselves, myself included, are rewatching those videos to check their form. This is especially true in powerlifting circles, where people will even send videos to coaches who have multiple clients and are not present for every lift. I personally haven't ever come across someone who is filming themselves for a purpose other than recording a PR, tracking progress, or checking form. You may as well get angry at groups of friends and families who take group photos with people in the background at public attractions and tourist sites.
@@CopperScott Clearly you don't use a lot of tiktok or instagram because they are filled with people getting mocked by strangers who are filming them. I have seen this a lot on social media. Obviously not every one does this and every statement should have some nuance. I have no way of knowing how many people are actually training and how many are making social media content but judging by how much social media content i see of influencers i think that this something that happens quite often. Furthermore you should also consider that some gyms are different then other gyms. So this may not happen in your gym but more in other gyms.
the problem with filming in gyms is i never consented to be blasted on the internet or be shamed because i looked at someone with a tripod wearing spandex.
@@danielsihyun-lq4ze why the hell do people pay to get in if it's public? Does the city owns the land and the building? If I want can I take a quick 3 hours nap on the smith machine? What's your definition of public place? Here where I live gyms are private property, only parks are public.
@@Krigalishnikov because it’s a service. it’s still a public gym, not a private gym. if the gym has a no film rule, then you must follow it. if not, the constitution protects the ability to film. if you’re not from america idk why ur in this conversation anyways lol
@@Krigalishnikov I prefer people not film, but it isn't a big deal and if it is that big of a deal to you, you should probably find a gym that doesn't allow it
Please let this series NEVER end. I am been training for like 5 years and still can learn so much from well educated, nice personalities like you, Mike or Layne. I study biochemistry and forget sometimes to see the grounded important basics when thinking about muscle growth.
This. No one knows everything about fitness as it's an ever-evolving field of study. If any personal trainer or fitness guru says they sell the solution to every problem that any person would have, they're lying and have not bothered to work with a variety of clients.
I just ate 38 eggs 😂. Just wanted to see what it’s like to eat like a pro bodybuilder for a day. Way over even 1g of protein per lb lean tissue. Let’s see what the blood work says on Monday
Cool bro, I started at 42. Been pumping for three years now. I went from weak to very strong and feel good. Train consistently, that is 80% of the results, the rest 20% is everything else, technique, nutrition and so on. Focus on compound movements, biceps and chest is overrated if you ask me.
"If there's a tripod in your way, just walk around it!" - I highly disagree and I feel like it's highly disrespectful to people who just want to work out without having to walk around someone else's video equipment. Sometimes gyms are already hard enough to navigate during busier periods and telling us to just deal with it in terms of people filming in the gym really doesn't really show consideration for others. Furthermore, many gyms have implemented a strict "no filming" policy due to numerous issues (and now, liability) for the very reasons they're stating.
If a tripod on the gym floor upsets you that much, I couldn’t imagine how you deal with real problems. You’d be a lot happier if you adapted a new mindset
@@brandonkennedyy No one is bothered by a tripod on the floor. It's usually the people who place their tripod on a gym floor that get bothered when people walk in front of it.
Yeah I've got so say I agree to some degree. But it depends, if they have a tripod close to them and out of the way, in a way that isn't really blocking anything, idc, but if there tripod is in the middle of a fuckin walkway or far away where people can walk through it easily, I'm not going out of my way to avoid it
I do a “bro split” that involves hitting every muscle every 4 days. So almost 2 times a week. I’ve tried everything else. I just really enjoy focusing on one or two muscle groups at a time. If I hate the workout, I won’t workout. So what I do works for me and I enjoy it
Yeah, I do full body and I enjoy that as I dont like dedicated leg days lol. What gets you out and into fitness even without maximial optimisation is a good thing.
@@raqimkthat’s not true though. I have bad workouts when I do what he says is best, and I have bad results, I don’t get stronger. I have great results when I do my method. I get stronger. And I continuously am able to lift heavier. That’s my point. It’s not a 1 size fits all. My method works for me. His works for him. I’m not telling anyone they need to do what I do. I’m not telling anyone his split is bad. What I’m saying is do what works for you
I'm not sure what's more impressive: Dr. Mike's understanding of the literature or his command of his language to be clear an succinct with every answer.
I agree with everything except the filming part. I understand that Mike and Jeff are the top 1% of smart useful gym advice influencers, but most people on the cameras at least in my gym have adopted the main character sydrome tiktok crud plaguing society. Also gym equipment is in the way because it is equipment you use to WORK OUT with. Tripods and stuff are not workout equipment.
Gyms aren’t public spaces so what Mike was saying is incorrect. Also, not everyone is okay with filming. Germany has seen the problem with technology being so ingrained into society and has actually made it illegal to film without consent. Jeff was pretty on point, it can be done, but it needs to be done respectfully.
you can argue about this until your face turns blue, but ultimately it's your personal decision whether you get your panties in a wad about it or just move on with your day. what choice will give you peace?
There are so many fake natty on social media, so in my opinion, it is pretty healthy that there is information spread about this topic. Also it make it easier/more acceptable to be honest for gear users.
8:03 I absolutely agree. If anyone overweight says they want to lose some weight, the first thing I always recommend is cutting regular soda out of their diet. I don't even go into other specifics with nutrition, or suggest exercise routines or anything like that. It's quite remarkable just how much weight an overweight person can lose by just cutting soda, which is also a testament to how bad that stuff is anyway.
A lot of people underestimate calories from liquids (sodas, juices, etc). We tend to think of solid foods when it comes to things like calories, sugar, etc and it can seem like a drink isn't as substantial in those terms.
@@MiamiVice.Drinks have less calories but they are more "dangerous" because of how easy and quickly you can ingest them. Also, some drinks are very high in calories (milkshakes).
Best collab for reactions, I need more of this. I also like the fact that both of them are comfortable with disagreeing but at the end of the day there should be only one objective truth so that's why you'll see them agreeing most of the time.
"as long as you don't disrespect other people who maybe don't want to be on camera". ever thought about that maybe nobody in the gym WANTS to be on camera?!
Toss a sign on the camera that just says, "Let me know if you want to be blurred." Like it's not perfect, but it's completely fair to be recording your set and also fair for someone to ask to be edited out. It's a public space, but I like to keep track of my progress. Personally, I don't keep a whole setup with me and I angle so it's just me or only maybe one or two people tops
@loljk233 If it's a public place, I don't think most people care. Sure, I think it's respectful, but unless I'm being trashed in some way, I really couldn't care less who's filming what around me
@@sirisaacedgelord6733why should others tell you they want to be blured? If you film yourself and others end up on the Footage it should be expected by you to blur them, if you dont have their cosent. Its totally fine for you to Film your Progress, but why is it so hard to have the standard of bluring all others out when you post your Progress or such?!? Other countries are totally able to set that Standard
I think training to failure is overrated, however, many people don’t even come close to failure and leave way too much in the tank to get results. So definitely good to do occasionally to make sure you’re challenging yourself enough
Yeah I think there's validity in the idea that you won't know how much you're below failure unless you take it to failure. Doesn't necessarily mean you need to take it to failure every time, or that the targeted muscles must fail every set.
I think it’s just dangerous more noobs like myself who don’t have the clearest idea about what they’re doing yet. I’ve tried jumping back into the gym multiple times and have gone too hard and always hurt something.
@@DuskFox7I'd lower your weight especially if you're doing sets of 5 for example. If you've gotta cheat your form to push to failure you're far more likely to actually fail and injure yourself
On training to failure. I think the value lies in learning where that point is for you. Once you can feel that, you can get the last full rep possible. I don't get stuck under a bench press anymore, but still manage to get plenty of just-squeezed-out final reps.
Really appreciate this kind of videos you been making brother, they are entertaining and quite educational as well ! Not to mention most of us really like Dr Mike's style .
The majority of the influencers who film themselves in the gym should start prioritizing their exercise form and technique. Filming an exercise is a great way to evaluate your form while also focusing on the adjustments that will increase technique and decrease risk of injury. By all means do what brings you joy but perhaps being considerate of your audience in the gym.
Training to failure was a good tool for me because I wasn’t training with the proper intensity. I still train to failure every couple of weeks to see if sth needs adjusting. If you struggle to find the proper intensity it’s definitely sth to try
also great if you're not training 5-7 times a week, which hell, most people don't have time to train any days during the week, why're we shaming training 3-4 times a week?
Gyms aren’t public. They are membership based. That said, I enjoy working out any gyms where capturing uncompensated background actors is grounds for termination.
I LOVE, how respectful they are to each other even when they don't fully agree with each other! kudos to you guys much love for creating this amazing content
It was nice seeing you calling your friend, when you edited the video and wanted to update your opinion on muscle failure, to ask him and give him the chance of revisiting his idea just like you did!
I record at the gym. Recording PR attempts, and even occasionally working sets help me know so much what I need to do to improve my form or what muscles to make sure I target harder for progress.
13:52 a gym is not public space though, and the owner should define in their terms of service if it’s allowed or not so everyone can decide if they are exposed to it
@@plwadodveeefdvIt is MEMBERSHIP use. unless you’re using that gym on the beach it is private property and members are allowed to use it. they sign a contract and if that contract says no filming, then you do not film anyone. if it says do not film others without consent, gym better not catch you filming somebody you’re gonna use as a “gym fail” or something.
@@mmmmmmmm1942it’s not. It’s a semi-public space because it asks for a subscription. This makes it able to set it own rules, this is different from say a park. Where anyone can enter and leave freely.
10:06 Natty or Not Videos, if done responsibly, are important for the public, and especially for young people. It gives a realistic sense of strength standards, athletic performance standards and body image standards, and of what to realistically expect from the basics in terms of exercise programs, diet, supplements, lifestyles, etc. Getting any of this wrong can have serious consequences.
Love this type of video. You guys are obviously biased about filming in the gym. Most people don’t like it, don’t want to be in someone’s video and tripods in the walkways are rude. Most of us want to throw on our earbuds and block out the world which is hard to do if you know someone is recording with you clearly in their shot. And especially these days if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female you may end up with unwanted internet fame. I make an exception for someone wanting to do a form check.
Everyone on the internet pretends as if they live in Los Angeles, encountering influencers in every gym they visit. Yet, the only time I've witnessed someone filming was to record proper exercise form. People tend to pretend it's a pervasive issue when, in reality, it isn't. It's akin to individuals watching crime videos daily and panicking, despite crime being historically at its lowest. "if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female" like this is not happening to anyone and you know it.
@@jbawg my friends and I record some of each other's lifts on our phones to improve form which, to admittedly toot my own horn, is the best way to film in the gym. A whole damn tripod isn't a big deal but I'd be mildly annoyed tbh.
@@jbawg 100%. People are blowing this issue way out of proportion. I film in the gym to check my form. I place my phone vertical, leaning next to the water-bottle and I film. I only capture myself. Yet many people would prefer if I was forbidden to do so because they feel so insecure about themselves to the point where they want to impose their insecurities unto others. If you feel like such a blob that appearing in someone's video background is debilitating, then you need to work on your personal issues, not dictate that filming in gyms should be banned.
@@david15891for me, your normal are the ones who want to show off, brag... there is no reason to film yourself, unless plan to share. There are tons of mirrors in every gym I go. Can check and adjust right there .
The only one I disagree with is filming in gyms. I totally agree with your viewpoints... just that your viewpoints are coming at the "I don't want to be on camera" argument. I would also film myself to check form and find weak points. However, the other side of the coin are the people filming others to make fun of them which is not okay and is something that happens very often. Or the people who yell at people for walking in front of the camera and expect everyone to stay out of their shot while in a public space.
Mind muscle connection meant something else to me - and I think maybe other beginners relate. When I started lifting I literally didn't know what the different movements should feel like, especially chest exercises with rounded shoulders from slouching all my childhood. Things like glutes, pecs, and delts I had to work on the mind muscle connection of what it feels like to use that muscle to dominate the movement. I don't know how to explain it other than it felt like my neurons or nerves didn't have good connections to those muscles yet and so learning that I had to work on the mind connection was like a key-opening moment for me in my lifting journey. I think for experienced lifters it probably doesn't mean very much
I agree with it all except the filming part, a gym is NOT a public place. You are paying for a PRIVATE gym - if I don't want to be filmed at the gym I pay for, then I shouldn't be. It makes me angry seeing cameras at the gym, obviously its literally your job to film in gyms, but I feel like my opinion is the majority
@@jeremyhinze8837 Spoken like a true Dyel. Mirrors won't help you check your back when you're deadlifting and squatting. They won't help you when you bench press either. What's it to you that I film myself? Why are you so obsessed with what I do?
@@Pedro_Le_Chef what the hell can't you see in a mirror when you bench press? I can see myself fine in the mirror. Do you honestly need to check form constantly? Once you get the lift the form never changes, it's literally the same thing every single time. I am certainly not obsessed with what you do, I don't even know who you are. I am just letting you know it's an asshat move, that's all. How would everyone in a gym know you are only using the footage personally? People have been using mirrors in the gym for form, as the reason they are there for 60 years with no problem, you aren't special.
@@jeremyhinze8837 Have you tried to do deadlifts/squats/power cleans, etc and look at the mirror mid-rep? It will mess up your form and a lot of the time there are no mirrors in those areas of the gym
There's a big difference between filming yourself in the gym and you accidentally got someone else in the shot (though you could blur them pretty easily) and filming others in the gym.
What makes me struggle with Dr Mike is how all of his opinions are stated like “That is absolute myth, you are very dumb if you believe this this is the absolute 1000% answer” When he has that type response for everythingggg and he’s criticizing way more than supporting…may lead to bias. He just seems like he would rather disagree with a statement and seems reluctant when he has to agree
That's what doctors, scientists, and engineers are trained to do. As an engineer, I'm always looking to disagree. To find the flaws. It's not about being reluctant to agree. It's about finding evidence to support agreeing with it, otherwise, be reluctant. And yea, you kinda are stupid if you "1000% agree" with anything you haven't personally read or discovered evidence to support it thereof.
@@Infamous159 I'm also an engineer, so 'as an engineer' I was more so talking about his hyperbole. I love Mike, he's extremely intelligent and well read. But he will disagree seemingly off ego, or if you watch his Dana White video, someone he respects he starts the video by saying "I'm sure Dana knows what he's talking about and I'm just joking" Where he is less strict because he personally likes them. You may be a fan of the channel but the man isn't perfect, he can have flaws and ego like the rest of us. He can have bias like the rest of us.
This is exactly why I can’t stand him and his recent flash in popularity. People like this suck, they just reinforce half the viewers preconceived notions and… most importantly, imagine how miserable his wife/coworkers must be to deal with this bullshit all the time.
@@-Jake Yeah he definitely has his flaws. Some of the points he made on his recent front squat video were anecdotal or completely incorrect. It's the first time where I've seen him make a claim that was complete nonsense. I love the material the RP team brings out though, but context and salt is still important. In the context of RP it is almost entirely focused on hypotrophy and nothing else. If I lifted as if the full ROM team was the only way, I would hate training and most certainly end up quitting.
I hate the beef, like both guys have great qualities! I like old coach Greg. Not just apartment Greg but original apartment Greg. I like Mike, but he is better than his jabs at Greg. Heck I like Jeff Nippard and I wish he wouldn't of got so sensitive about greg’s critique of his girl’s diet!
Jeff, been watching your stuff for a long time now and I absolutely love how you've progressed with the production quality. That cut at 3:10 was beautiful to watch. Keep up the great work dude (Y)
The diet fatigue is too real!! I took my first diet break with the intention of building muscle for once in my life and holy crap did my body respond. I’ve never looked or felt better.
@@acruzp I did 190 to 160 (so pretty much the same) over 7 months. I just recently finished a 2 month "diet break" at maintenance, and i felt absolutely amazing after a couple weeks.
Hey, Jeff! I love your videos. You have great talents for synthetization, discernment, and communication. I would love to see a video dedicated wholly to ways to break through plateaus and I think many others would, too.
gyms are private establishments, they are not in the public realm. a lot of people who go to gyms aren't influencers and in fact have body dysmorphia which would make it incredibly embarrasing or scary to know they are not only being filmed but will be posted to someone's socials. on top of that, there was a trend of two-bit influencers posting malicious videos of people simply glancing at them, claiming judgement or harrasment for sympathy & views (no, not just women) so ofc now many people are wary of cameras in gyms. if you're being respectful and just recording simple work-out videos then there shouldn't be a problem but many entitled people are abusing this privilege 🤷
Clean eating becomes underrated the older you get. Anyone over 30-35 learns you can't get away with what you used to be able to when it comes to outworking a poor diet.
@@mcshartypantspeople who use the term ‘clean eating’ typically aren’t capable of dieting more effectively than ‘vege good, meat good, carb bad, but rice good? But Joe Rogan said carb bad… oh well, clean eating good’
@@jettfuelfitness Clean eating refers to proper nutritional balance with your macro's and micro's and usually means eliminating highly processed foods and anything else that's unnecessary in your diet.
@@JonezBBQ that’s a great explanation, but thats not what most people who use the term mean. Wait until you hear someone say ‘clean eating’ in the gym, then ask them what that means. You will not get an explanation as good as the one you just gave, because 99% chance they haven’t even thought about it themselves
Basically, he’s saying if you want to workout but don’t want to be on social media, then get a home gym. Cause everyone can do that now, I guess 😒 I don’t post myself on social media. I don’t think other people should be able to post me without my consent
I agree with you. If anything, people who want to film in gyms should go when the gym is empty, blurr out people who accidentally got in their shots or get themselves a home gym. Luckily I live in a country where you own video and film material taken of you and it's prohibited for people just to take video/photos of you without your consent.
7:55 I recently finished a class in neurobiology and we learned about aspartame’s damaging affects to the neurons in the arcuate nucleus which controls satiety. It was my impression that aspartame consumption lead to increased satiety which would cause someone to crave more food, thus taking away the benefit of the diet soda. If there is a meta analysis proving that wrong I’d love to see it if someone could provide it.
It doesn’t matter though. I’m just some random weak ass dude who barely works out, so I’m definitely not one of the people in the gym filming myself literally ever, but I don’t see why anyone cares as long as they’re not filming you, in your way, or getting annoyed if you need to walk in front of the camera, then literally who cares. Ignore them. I just think people like to be mad over nothing because it makes them feel like they’re part of a group.
Hello Mr. Nippard, I'm an 18 year old who started your powerbuilding program and BOY DID I GET THOSE RESULTS! My squat and deadlift both went up by 30kgs and my bench went up by 17.5kgs and I finally hit 107.5kg (passed the 100kg barrier) in bench. These improvements were all in 10 weeks! Thanks for creating such a good program, and I'm running phase 2 right now. Will compete in 2024, all credits go to you! Thanks and much love.
@@VernCrisler This is because if you are 'obsessed' for PRs, you have a clear goal to work towards, as opposed to mindlessly swinging the weights in the gym. There's a difference between 'exercising' and 'training' and I go to the gym for the latter. Secondly, I am also training to be a powerlifter and start competing from 2024, hence it is all the more important I set goals in forms of PRs and work towards them in a specified timeline.
I get that cold exposure may not be as beneficial as people think body wise, but it helps me immensly to tolerate the inconveniences of the day to day world. I see it as that, if I pull myself through such unpleasant experience at the start of a day, what else equally unpleasant await on a casual day, nothing. And additionally it helps to create the living in the moment feeling, not focusing on past and future, also my skin improved. And in winter going into frozen lake with a friend is pretty fun way of spending time.
The whole reducing muscle thing was slight and only shown for ice baths directly after training. Also hot showers are extremely bad for hair and skin. A lot of these takes for terrible
@@josephbaker2692 That's exactly what I was thinking. Huberman never said to use cold exposure for hypertrophy training. They threw his face up there like he's a fitness con artist.
I've been thirsting over jeff for 10 years and Im not mad about it. Its a good thing really because his videos are always well informed and have helped me allot over the years. please never stop making videos Jeffe, and happy 10years on youtube!
3:10 is one of those reason I love Jeff. not only was that a clean transition but when he has a change of opinion he updates on that and then counter updates literally calling the other guy.. For me personally training to failure is hand and hand with muscle soreness, you're going to be sore the next day after you've trained to failure right?
Mike was spot on about recomps. From my own personal experience i hit a hard wall after a year of recomp last year. I was “in shape” by the end of it but I didn’t really get BIG until i hit my first bulk this year
I've heard similar stories from others who hit that recomp wall. Will keep that in mind as I also ended my recomp recently just to go a lil above maintenance for a small bulk.
The value of training till failure might not be in muscle growth, but in acquiring the habit of pushing yourself to do hard work in of itself. This might not be valuable for disciplined and experienced athletes and bodybuilders, but it is for beginners who are just trying to become a less lazy person that tries harder than what they usually do.
yeah no they never took psychological aspects into the equation and atleast to me psych is half of training cause the physical shit is easy once you learn.
@@BigSexyWizard I'd say the psychological aspect is probably the majority of an unfit person's problem. The flaw I see with all these fitness channels is they don't actually cater for the people who need them the most ie people with cripplingly low conscientiousness. All these fitness gurus talk to their audiences as if their audiences are just like them, not realising that if they WERE like them - they wouldn't need the guidance in the first place. I'm a temperamentally lazy person, I've been about 35-40% body fat since I was 14, and at the age of 36 - I've only just become relatively fit and below 15% body fat. None of these channels helped me because they all tried to implicitly convince me I wasn't a lazy bastard, and that I could just do what they did if I committed. But the truth is that I needed to learn methods that worked in SPITE of my laziness. I had to learn to game my own mind to achieve what I have, and none of what I needed to know was available on youtube.
Which is fine and all until you end up causing severe damage or similarly injuring yourself. Going to failure infrequently can be be an effective tool for many reasons, and I would personally recommend that people go to failure at least once in a while. This way they can have a good understanding of where there limit is. It isn't uncommon for people to incorrectly guess they've reached muscle failure, when in fact they've got quite a few more reps in the tank. If your goal is purely to build some kind of mental discipline I could see the argument being in favor of going regularly to failure. But if you're goal is to build muscle (like most people at the gym, or at least on channels like this), it's just foolish. The way to best pursue this goal is by balancing efficiency with safety. As efficient as we can be whilst still being safe. Stopping with 3, 4, or even 5 RIR is still going to effectively stimulate muscle growth. And while those extra few reps will provide more stimulus, we have to weight the "gain" of those reps with the increased risks of injury. I think a decent middle ground is to utilize failure sets as the last set of any movement. So you do 4 sets of bench press, with the first 3 sets being in that 3-5 RIR range, and then for the final set you go to failure. That way you're still trying to harvest the gains that come from extra reps, whilst minimizing the potential harm done.
The recomp question is interesting. They both see it from a bodybuilding perspective. If you're someone who have struggled with weight your whole live getting leaner while gaining muscle is the way to go. When you get to the point where you've evolved from all your old eating habits and your mind is ready for you to gain some fat again, I agree that it's time for you to look at bulking, but only when you've lived with your new habits for quite a while, so you don't risk falling in to your old ones
I definitely agree. I would also put forth that if you train from Monday to Thursday and eat (say 10%) above maintenance, eat at maintenance on Friday, fast on Saturday and eat 10% below maintenance on Sunday, you will likely build muscle and lose fat at the same time. This is just an example, not a training plan.
2 years ago, I was chubby, not fat but chubby. I said this is enough, I started up the gym again after a 3 year lay off. I started watching your content religiously old and new, I wish you could see the before and after effect you have had on me. Today, I'm confident but humble and feel so strong. Keep up the good work legend.
12:55 so glad laxity disorders were mention. I have laxity issues and didn’t really know until I tore my ACL… I realized I was naturally more flexible but didn’t realize the extent. There’s this misconception that laxity disorders are always all-affective (as in affecting muscles, tendons, and connective tissues equally), but in actuality there’s more nuance. Personally, my laxity issues mean that my muscles take longer to recover and more work to grow (I sprained my back 5 times in one year because it never fully healed between the slightly incorrect actions.. just by living my life and not from working out), my joints can move a lot to the point of occasional dislocations (my hip has dislocated multiple times when I sit on a toilet just to pop back in when I stand up or reposition), and my tendons have a slightly larger range of motion but can tear just as easily (for example I partially tore my ACL by falling normally). I also think the idea of locking out knees is dangerous comes from the mixing of information that have very little relativity. Locking your knees can cause you to pass out… IF you lock them for a long time. This is mainly prominent is choir where you’re standing there for 30+ minutes while singing.. it’s why you’re taught to slightly bend your knees when you are in a choir (in the form of a class). Even then it’s not the locking your knees that dangerous it’s what occurs when you pass out that is.
I bloody love these videos. It’s so great seeing these collabs and it is such a great way of enhancing the knowledge and confidence of the audience when it comes to lifting, nutrition, generally positive healthy lifestyle habits
I have really enjoyed every collaboration between you two so far. Also, Dr. Mike really digging in (and your reaction) when you called him to update his view on taking sets to failure was hilarious.
Completely agree. I get the bias from Jeff because that's his livelihood, but it's crass, intimidating to those who don't want to be filmed, and just rude. One step away from cringe TikTok dancing in crosswalks. If you want to film yourself working out so badly, rent a studio space or work out at home.
@@brentcoco2952I understand why it would be irritating if someone treated the gym like their personal vlogging dojo. But is it really that bad if someone wants to record a top set? The internet has created this mythological problem of people recording themselves in the gym taking up all of the equipment, but in reality AT MOST you need to record one set per exercise. On top of this, it’s not like you need 30 minutes to set up a tripod and put a phone on it to record a single set. Anyone can do that in the 2-3 minute rest between previous sets.
Who should I do an overrated/underrated video with next?
On exercise to build traps that are not shrugs
Alex Leonidas
Sal Di Stefano
I am not sure if you did made already a video about it Jeff, but maybe about the subject bracing and the use of a belt, etc. Pelvic rotation and "ass to grass" squat? Thank you for your content Jeff! We miss Steph!
Russell Orhii. Or any powerlifter. No powerlifting content in a while. POWERLIFTINNNGGGGGG!
The way Dr. Mike breaks things down is incredible. For example, "If you're not progressing, trying to get sore is probably a good idea" is so simple and concise a way to elucidate his stance. Love him.
I used to get sore by going heavy. I've lightened the weights recently and been going low and slow into my reps and getting more gains (on Daddy Mike's instructions) and not getting as sore. So I feel he is right on both counts.
@@ThiefOfNavarre What do you mean low and slow?
Slow reps, I get it, but what do you mean low? The negative portion of the movement, "stretching it" to the max?
@@gudgurl Yep, that's what I meant
@@ThiefOfNavarre Thanks, had to be sure.
Started doing it for a couple of weeks now,, it's been an interesting experience already.🙂
Dr. Mike is an idiot. He's fake, shallow, a hypocrite, and knows nothing about nutrition.
Mike doubling down on his thoughts on training to failure was awesome.
what a wholesome quality moment. liked the editing and the communication and dramaturgy as well. awesome video jeff
More like stupid.
Yes, but it was also the wrong conclusion from the meta-analysis, @jeffnippard. The figure shows the slope of RIR and muscle size, but not low RIR (1-2) vs. no RIR on muscle size... If you look at the data points for 1-2 RIR, they actually seem higher (on average) than the 0 RIR group, suggesting that low RIR might actually be better, or more likely, that low vs. no RIR are not significantly different from each other in their relation to muscle size.
Nevertheless, I love how much you integrate science content, so I've just subscribed.
@@SD....I think one rep from failure prob better but I do failure with lengthened partials on every exercise 😆 it’s just fun isn’t it
@@prexzah training to failure with assisted reps is fair, even still i would say only good towards end of workout. because start-mid workout you probably better off conserving energy for next set, but partials is a no no, you are missing out on so much. mike would actually slap you for doing partials 😂. when training alone going to failure on things like bicep, i doing single arm and use the other arm for the assisted reps, looks a bit weird but is effective
These two guys together are definitely underrated
i think they’re properly rated. everyone loves them and that’s how it’s supposed to be
@@cirostrizzi3760have you read the comments of sulek fans?
@@opensocietyenjoyerya, just a bunch of kids praising Sam for driving in his car.
@@cirostrizzi3760 as long as they aren't far more popular than athleanx they're underrated
A podcast would be too much
“You have to know what failure feels like.” Love that sentence specifically
My only problem with gym filming is when people get upset when you walk in front of their camera. You're in a public space, this isn't your personal studio.
Americans have a word definition for public space. You have to pay to go there, it's owned by someone, it they don't want you they can call the police to throw you out, how's that public?
It's much worse over here, multiple tripods are set up intentionally so you can literally not enter the area without being in danger of falling yourself or knocking one down, and when you do enter they act like they own the place.
@malchir4036 if they're in the way of equipment and the people act entitled, it's a problem.
The gym is not a public place though
@@power2go3 how so?
Love the part 4:19, when Dr. Mike says "no one read the study," and Jeff just smiles and laughs. Instead of editing out this moment or changing his answer, Jeff chose to leave this bit behind. Shows that Jeff is humble to admit he may be wrong in some things and isn't arrogant enough to pretend to know everything. Nothing wrong with not knowing everything in a given topic. Everyone should strive to continue learning.
I caught the same thing! He was totally not offended that Dr. Mike unknowingly attacked him. Such great guys and great info.
I mean yes, but now everytime Jeff shows a study to prove a point he's making, I'm going to wonder if he actually read and understood the study or just googled, got the first study with a title that matched what he wanted and then cherry picked one or two lines without understanding the full context.
@@rianrodrigues8195 totally get that
That was hilarious
Totally@@rianrodrigues8195
“Filming” isn’t the issue, it’s basically just all the problems with social media and turning spaces away from their intended purpose towards the all-consuming purpose of “content creation”
Coochie Creation
fine with some educational filming in gym but consistant recording and publishing for Tik Tok or TH-cam is weird and should be discoraged at that point just build your own gym
Yeah, obviously the doctor in physiology recording his lesson, is completely different from some clown chimping out because your deadlift shook their phone that was propped up by an empty bottle.
They totally missed the mark on that one XD nobody complains when Scorsese rents a street for hir new 3 hour project, they get mad when Mabelline does it for their shitty ads
I don't care. As long as it doesn't bother me. Some people at the gym do more chitchat than workout. Who cares? Doesn't affect you.
@@caracatoacacepe The rule is to be so jacked, nobody complains if you accidentally shake their phones or walk into their video accidentally.
I think the primary reason I dislike filming or even snapping pictures in the gym is that unless you’re alone you’re inevitably posting people who may be feeling vulnerable for the world to see. It’s easy to brush it off with the bro answer of “just ignore the negativity” when we’re already making progress, or already look good but honestly, a huge reason a lot of people who really need the gym avoid it is that they’ve been put down and mocked their entire life. Exposure therapy doesn’t work for everyone, we already know this, and to me enabling a space people may be afraid to be in to begin with become the breeding ground for further mockery even if they’re just in the background is selfish. “High end gyms” might be more okay with it, as I’d expect only the super dedicated body builders etc are in there, but commercial gyms are supposed to be where people get started and if they have a provable reason to avoid going in at all, we’ve failed them.
I think it's ridiculous really. I think you shouldn't have to bring up such specific scenarios to validate that filming is questionable. I don't want to be on some strangers video while working out. Yes a gym is a public space but not as public as an open market square etc.
People shit on privacy rights left and right already and I think it's inherently wrong to establish common grounds that you have to accept that you might be filmed in every situation in your daily life. Especially when there are people with a huge fanbase that lead to great exposure.
It would be different, if people would be respectful with the video material they produce, but it's become common practice to bait peoples reactions to expose them for clicks. And this hits deeply into what you criticized, some people are already scared to be judged in person but this is even more extreme.
That being said we have the technology to easily blur out bystanders, which would be my personal compromise. You cannot ask everyone to consent to your filming, which would be the "ideal" way of publishing videos including strangers so this is the only sensible solution for people doing social media in public.
Actually a gym isn't public. Public either mean owned by the government or a place people can freely come & go without paying. A gym is private and therefore you not allowed to film, live stream, or even snap 1 photo by default. The default is not "film & see if anyone says anything" it is a private place, filming is prohibited automatically unless you get active consent of everyone there. Meaning unless you go around asking everyone in the gym if you can film first, that camera shouldn't even be out.
I am LOVING the fact that both of you are very respectful of each other's answers, based on separate experiences and knowledge base. It's rare to see in a world run by socials where people will agree with popular opinions just to stay relevant and well liked. LOVE THIS.
why wouldn't they be. they arent debating the right of a certain group of people to exist
I genuinely wonder what types of content you usually consume to be so surprised by a civil discussion
@@reformed_attempt_1social media, no doubt
The problem I have with filming in the gym is the time it takes for people doing it to set up their shots. The in between checking of the shots. The retakes they do if not getting the perfect shot. And finally and worst of all, the attitude they get if you bomb their shot while going about your routine. In a commercial gym, with limited equipment, it's bad etiquette to camp out on that equipment because you think you're the next IG or TikTok fitness phenom.
That’s not a filming in the gym problem, that’s a people being assholes problem. I don’t film on the gym but I’m fine w it as long as you’re respectful of others
@@bart3736 Unfortunately, the two groups have a pretty big overlap
@@bart3736you can turn any problem into people being assholes
@@dankfart nah you guys live in savage towns or something ☠️, I've never seen this issue in the 2 gyms I go to since 2020
Not only that, people filming tend to take up equipment for longer periods of time. Telling us to "just deal with it" is actually pretty inconsiderate.
“Being out in public is implicit consent for being on someone’s video” HARD disagree and we shouldn’t accept this as the new norm
"There is no exception of privacy in public."
It's a freedom and Constitutional Law
that many Americans fought and died for, you commie.
Bruh
it's inevitable though.
It has been categorically proven and lawfully ruled that you have no semblance of privacy or guarantee of privacy when you are in a public space. You cannot expect anyone to respect your privacy when you chose to enter the public space and have ultimately invaded their "private space" as well. What we need to accept is that, if you don't wanna be in someone's video, be an adult and remove yourself or ask them if they can film after you've left. Don't put your responsibility and accountability on someone else.
@ perfect answer
As a content creator, I feel that your opinion on filming in the gym is incredibly biased. As someone who doesn't make a living off of content creation, I find it extremely bothersome when I see people with tripods set up recording (especially with mirrors around). Regular gym goers shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable working out because they might end up on someone else's Instagram. While you mention that it's fine as long as "you're not bothering anyone", many people are already uncomfortable that you are recording and may not want to cause a bigger scene by asking you to stop or by engaging gym staff. Just because you aren't approached to stop or to record somewhere else, doesn't mean you aren't bothering people.
Yes
Yup
Lol
It’s just corny honestly
Sounds like you're just insecure and you don't want people to see you lol.
The contribution of you both to the fitness industry is absolutely priceless. Thank you for all your work Mike and Jeff! A loyal supporter from years and years back ♥️ -Gabo
Why are you not pinned yet😂
love your stuff, champ. You helped me get the dragon flag
Imagine thanking roided up losers
Legend
The issue arises when people occupy multiple spaces to film, shame others for watching or posting their content on social media, mock unconventional workouts shared online, or get upset when someone passes through their filming area. In a public gym, everyone has the same rights to space. While I'll try to be considerate around cameras, I prioritize my own workout and expect the same respect in return.
"There's tripods everywhere, so what? walk around, there's also machines everywhere". Yeah, there are machines everywhere because guess what, you are in a fvcking gym and you need them for training. Narcissists have turned gyms into film studios and yet we have to apologize to these freaks for not wanting to appear in their stvpid videos.
yeah for real tripods set up recording it all.
Filming at the gym should 100% be banned. Most people have to take every ounce of courage just to step in a gym where they think theyll be safe and now they have to worry about being in videos where millions might see them?
Gyms are not public. Go outside and film yourself. Not inside where you expect some privacy, even if you'll be seen by other gym goers. What a bad big ego take by roiders
@@Limitless_Doom I'm going to lean my phone precariously against my water bottle to film my PB, and then show it later to my mom and 2 cats, and you can't stop me!
Yea...disagree with these guys...if I gotta squeeze around your stupid tripod to get to the equipment due to the fact tmyou aren't getting enough attention, then you are a Douche
The transition to discuss the training to failure update was elite!
Being filmed in the gym is not the same as just existing in public spaces. Someone just seeing me in public won’t have a record of me to then share with as many people as they like. The number of videos being uploaded to TikTok where assholes film other people and accuse them of creeping, or just mock them… it almost makes me never want to go again. So maybe it’s great if you’re already super jacked, but as a beginner and old lady, letting people film me in the gym, even incidentally, feels horrifying.
Actually, the gym is not a public space
And by assholes you mean females
Isn’t half the issue, that the people filming themselves get mad when someone else walks through their shot? Same with the crazy tiktokers that get mad at anyone who „ruins their shot“ by just walking in public. The gym is not a film studio, and people aren’t extras in your TikToks/monetized youtube videos.
Yeah how about he only films in the gym if it’s his own gym 🙄 the gym should be a safe space for everyone to exist, if people want to film in it then rent it out.
Of course it's a take you'd expect from youtubers who make a living from filming in the gym. But I agree. For the average person, I'd say it's fine to record yourself if you can keep others out of your shot, but otherwise it's just rude and not respectful to everyone else.
Love the part he just said about psychologically draining yourself. Of course I am psychologically drained after a good workout, but I feel like sometimes on sets if I just breath out, or calm down and focus on contacting the target muscle, instead of just trying to freak out as hard as I can to put myself into an even higher level of hyperarousal, helps create better gains too.
The thing about filming in Gyms is you can not expect people to not walk in front of your camera. That's the core issue. As joey swole as shown, so many influencers get so mad when someone else exists in the gym. Those influencers are the problem.
be better!
I completely agree with that. Filming in gyms is fine, so long as the gym allows it, its pretty much a public space. Getting mad when other people use that public space for its intended purpose? stupid and disrespectful.
Keep walking in their shot
@@martinclarke2903I mean, that’s pointless and petty too. If it’s in your way that’s fine to walk through the shot as long as your not trying to purposely be a dick, but if they’re just filming themselves and understand how to not be rude about it and don’t get angry at people for walking past(as long as it’s not malicious) then who fucking cares. 😅
there are defintely ways to not walk in front of a camera just like everywhere else in the world when people are taking pics alot of people will try and walk around to not interrupt its just polite. Now if you cant or dont see the camera thats ok. It does take two to tango both sides need to understand human decency
Thank you guys. This is super helpful! This format gets right to the meaty questions without beating around the bush. From two guys who are jacked in their own right, it feels great to hear this advice.
I actually see the value in natty or not videos. When I was a teenager, I used to lift with a guy in his 30s. We would do the same workouts together but he would see great results, and I would typically get injured, or so sore that I couldn't recover in just a week. I've been an athlete since I was little, and I was a 6'2 180 pound teen. I really though I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time. I had body image issues for years after that, it's good for people to know what is and isn't possible without drugs. A lot of people, especially young people, think you can outwork someone on steroids and even the playing field, when in reality you literally can't "outwork" someone on steroids, the whole point of the drug is it makes you recover quicker
Isn't that more an attitude problem than if some random person is natty or not? You could have easily ran into somebody with great genes that would achieve much better results than you using the same routine. The guy from your story not being natty is just random chance.
I started going to the gym for the first time in my life a year ago (at the age of 38), and pretty much everybody at that gym is doing better than me. But, I'm better than myself a month ago. And way much better than myself a year ago. Always there at the same time, 6 days a week. And that's enough for me. Also, I'm a bit old to have body image issues lol.
You do you man, forget about other people. Most of them are not worth the attention anyways lol
@@zoranvujovic998 No lol you're not even close to being right. Good genetics and gear are two different things. A grown man telling a teenager that he's natural and having him do his exact workouts, that's entirely different than having a friend that happens to look better than you. It's hilarious that I said "don't abuse steroids and lie to kids about it" and someone of course had to pop in and be like "You're wrong :(". The internet is a wild place
Is that your takeaway? You must be trolling.@@zoranvujovic998
@@mrdavisdancebut you didn’t say that the steroid user told you he was natty in the original comment, of course he’d get confused
@@peterk.2108 "I really thought I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time" was in my original comment. By stating that, I thought I was implying that I thought I had bad genetics while I was training with him, until the dude revealed that he was juicing at a later time.
(13:35) With respect, I disagree on this point. Me leaving my house does not automatically equate to me consenting to become someone else's content on their social media channel. ...I'll also admit that this is a bit of a kneejerk reaction on my end, so I'm curious to hear people (on both sides of the argument) flesh this out more. How is it consent (on my part) if I can't revoke it? For people who want more control over their depiction, are we expected to never leave our homes? Or is agency over my image just a fantasy at this point? (These are genuine questions on my part. I understand that this is part of a larger, much more complex conversation around privacy, data, public life, [interpersonal] safety, freedom of movement, and more.)
You consented to being filmed in public by default/being born in the United States. It's the first amendment.
@@nullno3722which is stupid af and this mindset breeds toxic influence culture and also the gym isn’t a public space
While you may not consent internally legally in a public space you are at the mercy of public laws. Look up any first amendment auditors that do this shit to rile people up. It’s usually a video of some jerk filming people in public spaces that don’t want to be filmed. It ends with cops being called on said first amendment auditor and sometimes physical altercation. But the auditor is in the legal right and usually can either get really good content or a pay day for being in the right of the law. Super shitty situation especially since while it is a right most people morally won’t film someone who doesn’t want to be filmed
@@Travestygyms are not public space though so you can absolutly refuse to be filmed and you are free to walk anywhere.
If the gym has security camera's the contract you signed will say you gave permission to be filmed for security reasons.
I agree with you. The best way to deal with it, is just say off side shit while they are filming and they will edit you out hahaha. If they dont, o well, people will get a good laugh at least.
Best advice: don't try to be perfect.
This allowed me to train almost consistently since i was 14 or something and now I'm 30.
It's ok to train 3 times a week or to not have the best most effective routine sometimes. It's important to be consistent over being perfect.
I had my younger days when i hated even having 1 rest day. But those days r over
Also things can be changed. In some cases the change is always a welcome thing when it comes to exercise routines. The consistency aspect is also very important with the sleep/nutrition for getting better results.
3 times a week is more than anyone other than pro bodybuilders need, lmao. For the first few years 2 per week is enough for most people if you add other types of training like cardio.
@greenlitlleman my best shape was when i was obsessed with BB. But it's not sustainable because it took over my life.
I agree or what I'm doing rn. 5 times a week but very short sessions. Cause i train at home
@@CryptoAshknI'll lose my mind if i don't train 6x a week. I don't know why, it's just like default thing to do on my schedule. Sure we should prioritize resting above all else so we don't get injured since we're not athletes but still. I do know from experience how fragile a body is when under extreme fatigue like you'll get injured from the stupidest things like one ego lift and poof wrist problems, one experimental partial bench press poof tennis elbow, one stupid technique day doing overhead press boom lower back strain, one stupid PR attempt on squats boom glute strain like bruh it doesn't end. What I do now is I try to take it easy, I'm thinking of removing my delts day and just split the heads with chest, back, leg day and I think my soul is OK with that compromise.
Absolutely right. Consistency is the most important training factor of all. Sad that it takes so long to learn this ^^
This video feels like a warm hug. great information and quite educational. They're also so respectful when disagreeing with each other. Love this content 😊
I think you missed a few major reason why we hate filming in gym.
1. The culture of people making fun of others just trying to workout and mind their own business, or complaining that someone walked through their shot like they own the place.
2. The people filming think they have the right to monopolise equipment for ages. Playing on their phones more than lifting.
3. It's indicative of the "look at me" generation, who are desperate for attention and are just plain irritating.
💯 spot on. So sick of all the narcissism. I'm just here to work out then get out.
Moreover, this idea of "you're out in public anyway" heavily varies by jurisdiction. In most European countries being out in public is not consent to be filmed.
No2 by far the most irritating. Why do I have to endure 4 sets of hip thrusts supersetted with 10 sets of filming and insta scrolling just to do my 2 sets of chest on the smith machine.
90% of people filming themselves, myself included, are rewatching those videos to check their form. This is especially true in powerlifting circles, where people will even send videos to coaches who have multiple clients and are not present for every lift. I personally haven't ever come across someone who is filming themselves for a purpose other than recording a PR, tracking progress, or checking form. You may as well get angry at groups of friends and families who take group photos with people in the background at public attractions and tourist sites.
@@CopperScott Clearly you don't use a lot of tiktok or instagram because they are filled with people getting mocked by strangers who are filming them. I have seen this a lot on social media. Obviously not every one does this and every statement should have some nuance. I have no way of knowing how many people are actually training and how many are making social media content but judging by how much social media content i see of influencers i think that this something that happens quite often.
Furthermore you should also consider that some gyms are different then other gyms. So this may not happen in your gym but more in other gyms.
the problem with filming in gyms is i never consented to be blasted on the internet or be shamed because i looked at someone with a tripod wearing spandex.
Also I look like a run over tomato during my sets, I don't want that image of me throw around
@@Krigalishnikovwell that’s ur issue, ur in a public space they don’t need ur consent
@@danielsihyun-lq4ze why the hell do people pay to get in if it's public? Does the city owns the land and the building? If I want can I take a quick 3 hours nap on the smith machine? What's your definition of public place? Here where I live gyms are private property, only parks are public.
@@Krigalishnikov because it’s a service. it’s still a public gym, not a private gym. if the gym has a no film rule, then you must follow it. if not, the constitution protects the ability to film. if you’re not from america idk why ur in this conversation anyways lol
@@Krigalishnikov I prefer people not film, but it isn't a big deal and if it is that big of a deal to you, you should probably find a gym that doesn't allow it
Please let this series NEVER end.
I am been training for like 5 years and still can learn so much from well educated, nice personalities like you, Mike or Layne.
I study biochemistry and forget sometimes to see the grounded important basics when thinking about muscle growth.
This. No one knows everything about fitness as it's an ever-evolving field of study. If any personal trainer or fitness guru says they sell the solution to every problem that any person would have, they're lying and have not bothered to work with a variety of clients.
I just ate 38 eggs 😂. Just wanted to see what it’s like to eat like a pro bodybuilder for a day. Way over even 1g of protein per lb lean tissue. Let’s see what the blood work says on Monday
@@TheToplessChefWBbro ate the whole carton per day 🤯
@@AshraafM yeah I ate one cartoon raw literally inside the gym 😂
Layne, as in Layne Norton? That filt?
Great talk, you guys bring such nice vibes to the scene!
Extremely helpful, guys. Fun and professional dialogue as well. Thank you!
They’re millionaires.
I am in my 50's and just started weight training. I needed advice like this to "weed" out all of the information that I get. Thanks guys!
Cool bro, I started at 42. Been pumping for three years now. I went from weak to very strong and feel good. Train consistently, that is 80% of the results, the rest 20% is everything else, technique, nutrition and so on. Focus on compound movements, biceps and chest is overrated if you ask me.
@@sunshine8556 I agree with sunshine except only do chest (jk jk!!). However, I do like a good UPPER chest and big delt look! people notice those!
@sunshine8996 i’d more say that its 30% training 30%nutrition 30% sleep
These two hombres are the best fitness educators on YT.
Anyone looking to weed out garbage information I refer to MIKE ISRAETEL. Nobody else.
I don’t even lift and this was interesting. 💪
Cali?
Cali?
Cali?
Bro just casually has a million subscribers
@@ddos4345 wtf I meant calisthenics
I love content like this. Informative, clean, fun, educational. Keep it up 🔥🔥🔥. But you can't convince me to lock my knees out 😂
"If there's a tripod in your way, just walk around it!" - I highly disagree and I feel like it's highly disrespectful to people who just want to work out without having to walk around someone else's video equipment. Sometimes gyms are already hard enough to navigate during busier periods and telling us to just deal with it in terms of people filming in the gym really doesn't really show consideration for others. Furthermore, many gyms have implemented a strict "no filming" policy due to numerous issues (and now, liability) for the very reasons they're stating.
If a tripod on the gym floor upsets you that much, I couldn’t imagine how you deal with real problems. You’d be a lot happier if you adapted a new mindset
Fr bro@@brandonkennedyy
@@brandonkennedyy No one is bothered by a tripod on the floor. It's usually the people who place their tripod on a gym floor that get bothered when people walk in front of it.
@@brandonkennedyyZzz
Yeah I've got so say I agree to some degree. But it depends, if they have a tripod close to them and out of the way, in a way that isn't really blocking anything, idc, but if there tripod is in the middle of a fuckin walkway or far away where people can walk through it easily, I'm not going out of my way to avoid it
I do a “bro split” that involves hitting every muscle every 4 days. So almost 2 times a week. I’ve tried everything else. I just really enjoy focusing on one or two muscle groups at a time. If I hate the workout, I won’t workout. So what I do works for me and I enjoy it
Yeah, I do full body and I enjoy that as I dont like dedicated leg days lol. What gets you out and into fitness even without maximial optimisation is a good thing.
Ya I agree. This is the problem with fitness influencers they tell you what works quickest not what works for you
i see what youre saying but theyre saying its still technically u losing gains that you coudlve gotten otherwise
@@raqimkthat’s not true though. I have bad workouts when I do what he says is best, and I have bad results, I don’t get stronger. I have great results when I do my method. I get stronger. And I continuously am able to lift heavier.
That’s my point. It’s not a 1 size fits all. My method works for me. His works for him. I’m not telling anyone they need to do what I do. I’m not telling anyone his split is bad. What I’m saying is do what works for you
Oof, I feel for you
I'm not sure what's more impressive: Dr. Mike's understanding of the literature or his command of his language to be clear an succinct with every answer.
He's an AI that's why 😅
@@kaloloL8nah, he's just really sharp.
It's called knowing your shit
@@100KGNatty It's called not letting a joke fly over your head.
@@allnamestakenlol It's a bad joke and nobody's gonna laugh at it anymore
@@antiwufei553 You wrote 'Jason Fung or his ilk' twice in one sentence... Opinion disregarded.
Excellent video! You two are great together!
I agree with everything except the filming part. I understand that Mike and Jeff are the top 1% of smart useful gym advice influencers, but most people on the cameras at least in my gym have adopted the main character sydrome tiktok crud plaguing society. Also gym equipment is in the way because it is equipment you use to WORK OUT with. Tripods and stuff are not workout equipment.
Yea great vid but the commentary on tripods etc. was laughable
Yes, plus that wierd take on if ur in public u should be fine with getting filmed. I def do not want to be filmed just by going outside my house lmao
especially in the gym im going to but idk
Gyms aren’t public spaces so what Mike was saying is incorrect. Also, not everyone is okay with filming. Germany has seen the problem with technology being so ingrained into society and has actually made it illegal to film without consent. Jeff was pretty on point, it can be done, but it needs to be done respectfully.
you can argue about this until your face turns blue, but ultimately it's your personal decision whether you get your panties in a wad about it or just move on with your day. what choice will give you peace?
There are so many fake natty on social media, so in my opinion, it is pretty healthy that there is information spread about this topic. Also it make it easier/more acceptable to be honest for gear users.
8:03 I absolutely agree. If anyone overweight says they want to lose some weight, the first thing I always recommend is cutting regular soda out of their diet. I don't even go into other specifics with nutrition, or suggest exercise routines or anything like that. It's quite remarkable just how much weight an overweight person can lose by just cutting soda, which is also a testament to how bad that stuff is anyway.
A lot of people underestimate calories from liquids (sodas, juices, etc). We tend to think of solid foods when it comes to things like calories, sugar, etc and it can seem like a drink isn't as substantial in those terms.
@@MiamiVice.Drinks have less calories but they are more "dangerous" because of how easy and quickly you can ingest them. Also, some drinks are very high in calories (milkshakes).
@@JohnDoe-id5ih Carbonated drinks perhaps, because they go flat, but fruit juices are easy to consume slowly.
@@MiamiVice.shoot even those little sauce packets from chic fil a it’s like 150 calories in each one
Everytime I cut pop, sweets, and beer from my diet I shed at least 10lbs within a month, and im not overweight to begin with.
Best collab for reactions, I need more of this.
I also like the fact that both of them are comfortable with disagreeing but at the end of the day there should be only one objective truth so that's why you'll see them agreeing most of the time.
"as long as you don't disrespect other people who maybe don't want to be on camera". ever thought about that maybe nobody in the gym WANTS to be on camera?!
This is it!
Toss a sign on the camera that just says, "Let me know if you want to be blurred." Like it's not perfect, but it's completely fair to be recording your set and also fair for someone to ask to be edited out. It's a public space, but I like to keep track of my progress. Personally, I don't keep a whole setup with me and I angle so it's just me or only maybe one or two people tops
@@sirisaacedgelord6733
Blurring people, who does not explicitly consent to being filmed, should be the default option.
@loljk233 If it's a public place, I don't think most people care. Sure, I think it's respectful, but unless I'm being trashed in some way, I really couldn't care less who's filming what around me
@@sirisaacedgelord6733why should others tell you they want to be blured? If you film yourself and others end up on the Footage it should be expected by you to blur them, if you dont have their cosent.
Its totally fine for you to Film your Progress, but why is it so hard to have the standard of bluring all others out when you post your Progress or such?!? Other countries are totally able to set that Standard
I think training to failure is overrated, however, many people don’t even come close to failure and leave way too much in the tank to get results. So definitely good to do occasionally to make sure you’re challenging yourself enough
Yeah I think there's validity in the idea that you won't know how much you're below failure unless you take it to failure. Doesn't necessarily mean you need to take it to failure every time, or that the targeted muscles must fail every set.
@@triplemania5550 💯
I think it’s just dangerous more noobs like myself who don’t have the clearest idea about what they’re doing yet. I’ve tried jumping back into the gym multiple times and have gone too hard and always hurt something.
Shouldn't you train to succes?
@@DuskFox7I'd lower your weight especially if you're doing sets of 5 for example. If you've gotta cheat your form to push to failure you're far more likely to actually fail and injure yourself
On training to failure.
I think the value lies in learning where that point is for you.
Once you can feel that, you can get the last full rep possible.
I don't get stuck under a bench press anymore, but still manage to get plenty of just-squeezed-out final reps.
Really appreciate this kind of videos you been making brother, they are entertaining and quite educational as well ! Not to mention most of us really like Dr Mike's style .
That transition trick with the laptop screen at @3:09 was incredibly smooth. Jeff's editor is flexing his muscles.
Im soooo happy to have Dr. Mike on youtube and sharing his knowledge with us
It's refreshing to hear from an actual professional instead of fucking grifters and quacks
this was incredibly insightful. trainning to failure being overrated shook me
The majority of the influencers who film themselves in the gym should start prioritizing their exercise form and technique. Filming an exercise is a great way to evaluate your form while also focusing on the adjustments that will increase technique and decrease risk of injury. By all means do what brings you joy but perhaps being considerate of your audience in the gym.
Training to failure was a good tool for me because I wasn’t training with the proper intensity. I still train to failure every couple of weeks to see if sth needs adjusting. If you struggle to find the proper intensity it’s definitely sth to try
Agreed. As a newbie, it really helped me set my intensity level. How do you know you're 1-2 reps short of failure if you don't know when you'd fail?
also great if you're not training 5-7 times a week, which hell, most people don't have time to train any days during the week, why're we shaming training 3-4 times a week?
Gyms aren’t public. They are membership based. That said, I enjoy working out any gyms where capturing uncompensated background actors is grounds for termination.
Exactly. No don't film me. I don't want to find out I was filmed without me knowing.
Absolutely.
I LOVE, how respectful they are to each other even when they don't fully agree with each other! kudos to you guys much love for creating this amazing content
It was nice seeing you calling your friend, when you edited the video and wanted to update your opinion on muscle failure, to ask him and give him the chance of revisiting his idea just like you did!
wish this video was longer. can never have enough of two people discussing a subject who actually know well what they're talking about
Do more of these videos please!! Super informative and also entertaining
Man, Jeff & Mike. You guys are so good at what you do! I aspire to absorb some of the many positive traits you guys yield! Bless
I record at the gym. Recording PR attempts, and even occasionally working sets help me know so much what I need to do to improve my form or what muscles to make sure I target harder for progress.
Always admire the editing in your videos and the fact that you do them yourself Jeff. Love the collabs with Mike!
13:52 a gym is not public space though, and the owner should define in their terms of service if it’s allowed or not so everyone can decide if they are exposed to it
it is "public use". in the US it is legal to film in these areas unless the owner dictates otherwise
He mentioned that quickly. that as long as you’re not violating gym rules you’re cool.
@@plwadodveeefdvIt is MEMBERSHIP use. unless you’re using that gym on the beach it is private property and members are allowed to use it. they sign a contract and if that contract says no filming, then you do not film anyone. if it says do not film others without consent, gym better not catch you filming somebody you’re gonna use as a “gym fail” or something.
It is a public space tho
@@mmmmmmmm1942it’s not. It’s a semi-public space because it asks for a subscription. This makes it able to set it own rules, this is different from say a park. Where anyone can enter and leave freely.
10:06 Natty or Not Videos, if done responsibly, are important for the public, and especially for young people. It gives a realistic sense of strength standards, athletic performance standards and body image standards, and of what to realistically expect from the basics in terms of exercise programs, diet, supplements, lifestyles, etc. Getting any of this wrong can have serious consequences.
Great point kinda shocked they didn't bring that up
They literally did. He said if someone is actually not natty and claim that they are then they should be exposed.@@CaptainCJ97
they both think its overrated because they're both on the juice haha
@@vidalbalkaran3691 Lol. Jeff is natural, but a lot of his friends aren't...
Those natty or not really helped me gain a lot of perspective. I also think they're pretty good.
I have tremendous respect for you calling him up and getting an updated answer instead of just updating your own answer. RP all day baby!
Love this type of video. You guys are obviously biased about filming in the gym. Most people don’t like it, don’t want to be in someone’s video and tripods in the walkways are rude. Most of us want to throw on our earbuds and block out the world which is hard to do if you know someone is recording with you clearly in their shot. And especially these days if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female you may end up with unwanted internet fame. I make an exception for someone wanting to do a form check.
Yeah but also every (normal) person films mainly to check their technique
Everyone on the internet pretends as if they live in Los Angeles, encountering influencers in every gym they visit. Yet, the only time I've witnessed someone filming was to record proper exercise form. People tend to pretend it's a pervasive issue when, in reality, it isn't. It's akin to individuals watching crime videos daily and panicking, despite crime being historically at its lowest. "if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female" like this is not happening to anyone and you know it.
@@jbawg my friends and I record some of each other's lifts on our phones to improve form which, to admittedly toot my own horn, is the best way to film in the gym.
A whole damn tripod isn't a big deal but I'd be mildly annoyed tbh.
@@jbawg 100%. People are blowing this issue way out of proportion. I film in the gym to check my form. I place my phone vertical, leaning next to the water-bottle and I film. I only capture myself. Yet many people would prefer if I was forbidden to do so because they feel so insecure about themselves to the point where they want to impose their insecurities unto others.
If you feel like such a blob that appearing in someone's video background is debilitating, then you need to work on your personal issues, not dictate that filming in gyms should be banned.
@@david15891for me, your normal are the ones who want to show off, brag... there is no reason to film yourself, unless plan to share. There are tons of mirrors in every gym I go. Can check and adjust right there .
The only one I disagree with is filming in gyms. I totally agree with your viewpoints... just that your viewpoints are coming at the "I don't want to be on camera" argument. I would also film myself to check form and find weak points. However, the other side of the coin are the people filming others to make fun of them which is not okay and is something that happens very often. Or the people who yell at people for walking in front of the camera and expect everyone to stay out of their shot while in a public space.
@@MrSpwn who are you again?
Has anybody ever actually yelled at you for walking in their shot?
Loved this! What a fast-paced content with lots of value!
I had to check the playback speed. I thought I had it up to 1.5x.
Mind muscle connection meant something else to me - and I think maybe other beginners relate. When I started lifting I literally didn't know what the different movements should feel like, especially chest exercises with rounded shoulders from slouching all my childhood. Things like glutes, pecs, and delts I had to work on the mind muscle connection of what it feels like to use that muscle to dominate the movement. I don't know how to explain it other than it felt like my neurons or nerves didn't have good connections to those muscles yet and so learning that I had to work on the mind connection was like a key-opening moment for me in my lifting journey.
I think for experienced lifters it probably doesn't mean very much
I agree with it all except the filming part, a gym is NOT a public place. You are paying for a PRIVATE gym - if I don't want to be filmed at the gym I pay for, then I shouldn't be. It makes me angry seeing cameras at the gym, obviously its literally your job to film in gyms, but I feel like my opinion is the majority
What about the personal videos I take to check my form? Are you insecure about appearing in those too?
@@Pedro_Le_Chefthats what all the mirrors in the gym are for. The knobs that film in the chamge room need to piss off also.
@@jeremyhinze8837 Spoken like a true Dyel.
Mirrors won't help you check your back when you're deadlifting and squatting.
They won't help you when you bench press either.
What's it to you that I film myself?
Why are you so obsessed with what I do?
@@Pedro_Le_Chef what the hell can't you see in a mirror when you bench press? I can see myself fine in the mirror. Do you honestly need to check form constantly? Once you get the lift the form never changes, it's literally the same thing every single time.
I am certainly not obsessed with what you do, I don't even know who you are. I am just letting you know it's an asshat move, that's all. How would everyone in a gym know you are only using the footage personally? People have been using mirrors in the gym for form, as the reason they are there for 60 years with no problem, you aren't special.
@@jeremyhinze8837 Have you tried to do deadlifts/squats/power cleans, etc and look at the mirror mid-rep? It will mess up your form and a lot of the time there are no mirrors in those areas of the gym
I love the in-editing call and Mike saying “yes even MORE overrated” for training to failure 😂
There's a big difference between filming yourself in the gym and you accidentally got someone else in the shot (though you could blur them pretty easily) and filming others in the gym.
What makes me struggle with Dr Mike is how all of his opinions are stated like “That is absolute myth, you are very dumb if you believe this this is the absolute 1000% answer”
When he has that type response for everythingggg and he’s criticizing way more than supporting…may lead to bias. He just seems like he would rather disagree with a statement and seems reluctant when he has to agree
That's what doctors, scientists, and engineers are trained to do. As an engineer, I'm always looking to disagree. To find the flaws. It's not about being reluctant to agree. It's about finding evidence to support agreeing with it, otherwise, be reluctant. And yea, you kinda are stupid if you "1000% agree" with anything you haven't personally read or discovered evidence to support it thereof.
He is an actual academic in the field with published research. He's allowed to be like that and is entirely justified in doing sp
@@Infamous159 I'm also an engineer, so 'as an engineer' I was more so talking about his hyperbole. I love Mike, he's extremely intelligent and well read. But he will disagree seemingly off ego, or if you watch his Dana White video, someone he respects he starts the video by saying "I'm sure Dana knows what he's talking about and I'm just joking"
Where he is less strict because he personally likes them. You may be a fan of the channel but the man isn't perfect, he can have flaws and ego like the rest of us. He can have bias like the rest of us.
This is exactly why I can’t stand him and his recent flash in popularity. People like this suck, they just reinforce half the viewers preconceived notions and… most importantly, imagine how miserable his wife/coworkers must be to deal with this bullshit all the time.
@@-Jake Yeah he definitely has his flaws. Some of the points he made on his recent front squat video were anecdotal or completely incorrect. It's the first time where I've seen him make a claim that was complete nonsense. I love the material the RP team brings out though, but context and salt is still important. In the context of RP it is almost entirely focused on hypotrophy and nothing else. If I lifted as if the full ROM team was the only way, I would hate training and most certainly end up quitting.
10:38 Can't wait for Coach Greg to reply at this clear shot at him 😂
was looking for this comment uuhhh that was clearly a shot at Coach Greg xd
I hate the beef, like both guys have great qualities! I like old coach Greg. Not just apartment Greg but original apartment Greg. I like Mike, but he is better than his jabs at Greg. Heck I like Jeff Nippard and I wish he wouldn't of got so sensitive about greg’s critique of his girl’s diet!
Jeff, been watching your stuff for a long time now and I absolutely love how you've progressed with the production quality. That cut at 3:10 was beautiful to watch. Keep up the great work dude (Y)
That cut was so smoothe I was legit taken aback.
3:53 I love that Jeff adjusted his answer and I was like hey not fair Mike's not there to adjust his answer and then he called him. That was cool 😅
Useful info! This is great! Thank you for sharing!😄
The diet fatigue is too real!! I took my first diet break with the intention of building muscle for once in my life and holy crap did my body respond. I’ve never looked or felt better.
Amen to this. If I'm on a prolonged cut or bulk, a 1-3 week diet break really helps my mood.
I went from 187lb to 163lb in 5 months and I just had to stop like 10lb short of my goal.
@@acruzp I did 190 to 160 (so pretty much the same) over 7 months. I just recently finished a 2 month "diet break" at maintenance, and i felt absolutely amazing after a couple weeks.
@@JackOfHearts42 that's great man, keep it up!
Hey, Jeff! I love your videos. You have great talents for synthetization, discernment, and communication. I would love to see a video dedicated wholly to ways to break through plateaus and I think many others would, too.
gyms are private establishments, they are not in the public realm. a lot of people who go to gyms aren't influencers and in fact have body dysmorphia which would make it incredibly embarrasing or scary to know they are not only being filmed but will be posted to someone's socials. on top of that, there was a trend of two-bit influencers posting malicious videos of people simply glancing at them, claiming judgement or harrasment for sympathy & views (no, not just women) so ofc now many people are wary of cameras in gyms. if you're being respectful and just recording simple work-out videos then there shouldn't be a problem but many entitled people are abusing this privilege 🤷
Yes its scary and I'm a woman
Clean eating becomes underrated the older you get. Anyone over 30-35 learns you can't get away with what you used to be able to when it comes to outworking a poor diet.
Could you be any more ambiguous with the term clean eating?
@@mcshartypantspeople who use the term ‘clean eating’ typically aren’t capable of dieting more effectively than ‘vege good, meat good, carb bad, but rice good? But Joe Rogan said carb bad… oh well, clean eating good’
Yep. Most of my body recomp came from clean eating. Took 8 years.
@@jettfuelfitness Clean eating refers to proper nutritional balance with your macro's and micro's and usually means eliminating highly processed foods and anything else that's unnecessary in your diet.
@@JonezBBQ that’s a great explanation, but thats not what most people who use the term mean. Wait until you hear someone say ‘clean eating’ in the gym, then ask them what that means. You will not get an explanation as good as the one you just gave, because 99% chance they haven’t even thought about it themselves
Basically, he’s saying if you want to workout but don’t want to be on social media, then get a home gym. Cause everyone can do that now, I guess 😒
I don’t post myself on social media. I don’t think other people should be able to post me without my consent
I agree with you. If anything, people who want to film in gyms should go when the gym is empty, blurr out people who accidentally got in their shots or get themselves a home gym. Luckily I live in a country where you own video and film material taken of you and it's prohibited for people just to take video/photos of you without your consent.
You guys together are like the best thing happening to the fitness industry
7:55 I recently finished a class in neurobiology and we learned about aspartame’s damaging affects to the neurons in the arcuate nucleus which controls satiety. It was my impression that aspartame consumption lead to increased satiety which would cause someone to crave more food, thus taking away the benefit of the diet soda. If there is a meta analysis proving that wrong I’d love to see it if someone could provide it.
The problem with gym filming is 99% are doing it for clout and only 1% is actually using it to critique technique and educate..
It doesn’t matter though.
I’m just some random weak ass dude who barely works out, so I’m definitely not one of the people in the gym filming myself literally ever, but I don’t see why anyone cares as long as they’re not filming you, in your way, or getting annoyed if you need to walk in front of the camera, then literally who cares. Ignore them. I just think people like to be mad over nothing because it makes them feel like they’re part of a group.
Who cares lol you don’t talk to them they won’t talk to you, same thing with gay people it’s like people have an issue with both for existing
The collaboration lately with Mike is amazing and a great value to your videos (that are always great!)
Actually calling him to give him a chance to update it s such a respectful choice
4:09 Jeff didnt read the study xD
Hello Mr. Nippard, I'm an 18 year old who started your powerbuilding program and BOY DID I GET THOSE RESULTS! My squat and deadlift both went up by 30kgs and my bench went up by 17.5kgs and I finally hit 107.5kg (passed the 100kg barrier) in bench. These improvements were all in 10 weeks! Thanks for creating such a good program, and I'm running phase 2 right now. Will compete in 2024, all credits go to you! Thanks and much love.
You are the perfect combination of very cute and extemely cringey
@Antonio_Serdar nah, he's the perfect combination of consistency and not giving up.. good on you orchid!
@@bjornr9801
Absolutely man, he is that too; but there is no debating that he is cute and cringey too!
Why are teenagers so obsessed with PRs?
@@VernCrisler This is because if you are 'obsessed' for PRs, you have a clear goal to work towards, as opposed to mindlessly swinging the weights in the gym. There's a difference between 'exercising' and 'training' and I go to the gym for the latter.
Secondly, I am also training to be a powerlifter and start competing from 2024, hence it is all the more important I set goals in forms of PRs and work towards them in a specified timeline.
Thank you, Jeff. Editing skills are fantastic. Thanks to Dr Israetel as well. So much dispelled nonsense.
I get that cold exposure may not be as beneficial as people think body wise, but it helps me immensly to tolerate the inconveniences of the day to day world. I see it as that, if I pull myself through such unpleasant experience at the start of a day, what else equally unpleasant await on a casual day, nothing. And additionally it helps to create the living in the moment feeling, not focusing on past and future, also my skin improved. And in winter going into frozen lake with a friend is pretty fun way of spending time.
It's annoying how they are narrowing the focus on hypertrophy only, cold water therapy has many benefits outside of the gym.
The whole reducing muscle thing was slight and only shown for ice baths directly after training. Also hot showers are extremely bad for hair and skin. A lot of these takes for terrible
Don’t take advice from people who removes years of their life off to take steroids
@@josephbaker2692 That's exactly what I was thinking. Huberman never said to use cold exposure for hypertrophy training. They threw his face up there like he's a fitness con artist.
I've been thirsting over jeff for 10 years and Im not mad about it. Its a good thing really because his videos are always well informed and have helped me allot over the years. please never stop making videos Jeffe, and happy 10years on youtube!
3:10 is one of those reason I love Jeff. not only was that a clean transition but when he has a change of opinion he updates on that and then counter updates literally calling the other guy.. For me personally training to failure is hand and hand with muscle soreness, you're going to be sore the next day after you've trained to failure right?
Mike was spot on about recomps. From my own personal experience i hit a hard wall after a year of recomp last year. I was “in shape” by the end of it but I didn’t really get BIG until i hit my first bulk this year
I've heard similar stories from others who hit that recomp wall. Will keep that in mind as I also ended my recomp recently just to go a lil above maintenance for a small bulk.
The value of training till failure might not be in muscle growth, but in acquiring the habit of pushing yourself to do hard work in of itself. This might not be valuable for disciplined and experienced athletes and bodybuilders, but it is for beginners who are just trying to become a less lazy person that tries harder than what they usually do.
yeah no they never took psychological aspects into the equation and atleast to me psych is half of training cause the physical shit is easy once you learn.
@@BigSexyWizard I'd say the psychological aspect is probably the majority of an unfit person's problem.
The flaw I see with all these fitness channels is they don't actually cater for the people who need them the most ie people with cripplingly low conscientiousness.
All these fitness gurus talk to their audiences as if their audiences are just like them, not realising that if they WERE like them - they wouldn't need the guidance in the first place.
I'm a temperamentally lazy person, I've been about 35-40% body fat since I was 14, and at the age of 36 - I've only just become relatively fit and below 15% body fat. None of these channels helped me because they all tried to implicitly convince me I wasn't a lazy bastard, and that I could just do what they did if I committed.
But the truth is that I needed to learn methods that worked in SPITE of my laziness. I had to learn to game my own mind to achieve what I have, and none of what I needed to know was available on youtube.
Which is fine and all until you end up causing severe damage or similarly injuring yourself.
Going to failure infrequently can be be an effective tool for many reasons, and I would personally recommend that people go to failure at least once in a while. This way they can have a good understanding of where there limit is. It isn't uncommon for people to incorrectly guess they've reached muscle failure, when in fact they've got quite a few more reps in the tank.
If your goal is purely to build some kind of mental discipline I could see the argument being in favor of going regularly to failure. But if you're goal is to build muscle (like most people at the gym, or at least on channels like this), it's just foolish. The way to best pursue this goal is by balancing efficiency with safety. As efficient as we can be whilst still being safe. Stopping with 3, 4, or even 5 RIR is still going to effectively stimulate muscle growth. And while those extra few reps will provide more stimulus, we have to weight the "gain" of those reps with the increased risks of injury.
I think a decent middle ground is to utilize failure sets as the last set of any movement. So you do 4 sets of bench press, with the first 3 sets being in that 3-5 RIR range, and then for the final set you go to failure. That way you're still trying to harvest the gains that come from extra reps, whilst minimizing the potential harm done.
The recomp question is interesting. They both see it from a bodybuilding perspective. If you're someone who have struggled with weight your whole live getting leaner while gaining muscle is the way to go. When you get to the point where you've evolved from all your old eating habits and your mind is ready for you to gain some fat again, I agree that it's time for you to look at bulking, but only when you've lived with your new habits for quite a while, so you don't risk falling in to your old ones
Recomping never practically works
I definitely agree. I would also put forth that if you train from Monday to Thursday and eat (say 10%) above maintenance, eat at maintenance on Friday, fast on Saturday and eat 10% below maintenance on Sunday, you will likely build muscle and lose fat at the same time. This is just an example, not a training plan.
@@ReverseGuy bold statement for something incorrect.
New subscriber, very thankful for these informative videos to learn how to get jack-jacked. Thank you!
i lost 34,5kg in a year, was starting from 134,5kg, now i can rest for a while, watch your videos and prepare for training :)
2 years ago, I was chubby, not fat but chubby. I said this is enough, I started up the gym again after a 3 year lay off. I started watching your content religiously old and new, I wish you could see the before and after effect you have had on me. Today, I'm confident but humble and feel so strong. Keep up the good work legend.
This is one an awesome vid. I love the chemistry between these 2 and I'd actually like to see them make more vids together.
12:55 so glad laxity disorders were mention. I have laxity issues and didn’t really know until I tore my ACL… I realized I was naturally more flexible but didn’t realize the extent. There’s this misconception that laxity disorders are always all-affective (as in affecting muscles, tendons, and connective tissues equally), but in actuality there’s more nuance. Personally, my laxity issues mean that my muscles take longer to recover and more work to grow (I sprained my back 5 times in one year because it never fully healed between the slightly incorrect actions.. just by living my life and not from working out), my joints can move a lot to the point of occasional dislocations (my hip has dislocated multiple times when I sit on a toilet just to pop back in when I stand up or reposition), and my tendons have a slightly larger range of motion but can tear just as easily (for example I partially tore my ACL by falling normally). I also think the idea of locking out knees is dangerous comes from the mixing of information that have very little relativity.
Locking your knees can cause you to pass out… IF you lock them for a long time. This is mainly prominent is choir where you’re standing there for 30+ minutes while singing.. it’s why you’re taught to slightly bend your knees when you are in a choir (in the form of a class). Even then it’s not the locking your knees that dangerous it’s what occurs when you pass out that is.
Another informative Jeff video, let's go!
I bloody love these videos. It’s so great seeing these collabs and it is such a great way of enhancing the knowledge and confidence of the audience when it comes to lifting, nutrition, generally positive healthy lifestyle habits
I have really enjoyed every collaboration between you two so far. Also, Dr. Mike really digging in (and your reaction) when you called him to update his view on taking sets to failure was hilarious.
You guys discussing together is the dream for any weightlifter
They need to ban cameras inside of public gyms. You two might handle it the right way, but the majority do not.
no they don't. grow up
Completely agree. I get the bias from Jeff because that's his livelihood, but it's crass, intimidating to those who don't want to be filmed, and just rude. One step away from cringe TikTok dancing in crosswalks. If you want to film yourself working out so badly, rent a studio space or work out at home.
No, because then we wouldn't get all those gym fails videos.
@@brentcoco2952I understand why it would be irritating if someone treated the gym like their personal vlogging dojo. But is it really that bad if someone wants to record a top set? The internet has created this mythological problem of people recording themselves in the gym taking up all of the equipment, but in reality AT MOST you need to record one set per exercise. On top of this, it’s not like you need 30 minutes to set up a tripod and put a phone on it to record a single set. Anyone can do that in the 2-3 minute rest between previous sets.
i mean i understand but does that mean im never allowed to pull my phone out and record my form?