4 different ways to manually load logs on a wagon - by yourself, using new and old school technics.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2020
- How you easy manually loads even big and heavy logs or lumber on a wagon by yourself using various hand tools + new and old school technics.
Also a story of how not to!
Worked with my Grampa 60 years ago cutting and snaking logs from bulldozed trees. Skidded them to a clearing, and using chains to load on a wagon. Then pull the wagon to the sawmill a couple miles away. Never used a ramp, but then I was driving a tractor and Grampa had a team of mules. We had the power to roll 3 or 4 logs up with that chain at a time, depending on their size. Horsepower does make a difference. Learned a lot about common-sense that summer.
The best parts of the videos were your sharing your "mistakes". No better way to learn. Doing this kind of work can be dangerous and doing it alone can be extremely so. Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
New Zealand has big logging trucks.
Gross Masses of around 150-tonne.
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New Zealand- Classic Chip Trucking with 8V92TA-13sp.@ 40t
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NZ farmers block been logged,@57ton gross.
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Well done in everything you did and doing thanks for the shear. What is the tree jack called for fixing and raising the log please I never saw one like that very good.
The only people who don't make mistakes are the people that don't do anything. Great video.
I've spent so much time thinking of ways to stack logs without the use of horses or machinery, that I'm glad to have found this video. I could tell what was gonna happen for every scenario, including what would work or not, but it was seriously refreshing seeing you try them all, unashamedly. Well done for showing the mistakes man. This'll help others a lot :) I hope you've perfected your technique/s since this video was made :)
My Grandfather used this method back in the 40's and 50's to load his log truck using a team of 4 oxen for power, hooking two cross haul chains anchored to the far side of the trailer. The oxen would pull the 30 inch by 20 foot logs up the skids and onto the trailer. As a young kid in the 50's, I though it was really amazing that you could load logs that big three layers high just using the power of the oxen! Things sure have changed. Great Video!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Ronald, great memories! :-)
Ive seen so many videos with intricate log lifting systems and this one seems like the simplest and most economical .
This could be adapted and improved upon on pretty much any trailer.
Thanks for sharing your ideas.
When I turned 60, I had enough manual labor, so I bought a 6 ton winch w/ several block & tackle --- Now i just push the button !
I agree, thanks for recording the ideas that were less successful.
So many people want others to think that everything they do works all the time, when the rest of us know that's not the case.
I learned a few new tricks from your video. Which I will use in the coming weeks.
I donate hard wood to the Navajo reservation and am planning to load and haul the oak logs from MO to NM. This video will help!
The top of the square tube with the winch on it is open ended. A ratchet strap to the top of the tube and secured to the back side of the trailer could help take some of the tension off the tube. I realize it's thicker steel and the gusset at the bottom would stay off total failure. Maybe the strap could keep the top of the bar from bending, especially when lifting a larger log. Great video sir.
Just fantastic stuff Great help and a super video
Erik my friend, you did a fine job considering you did the work of 4 men, all by yourself. Excellent job!!!
👍Jay👍
Thanks Silver Grizzly. I might also have been 4 times as slow :-)
Hey Erik
Like your ideas and how you’re failing thinking about it and fixing it!!!
You’re a smart guy!!!
Greetings from Hamburg Germany 🇩🇪
Thank 2 and a half! "smart" is not a word that pops up among those who know me, but after some time i usually get there :-)
Erik Straarup hahahahahha yes I know what you mean!!! But still I like people who can solve problems or fixing them by taking a minute and think over the problem!!!
Really nice video hope to see the building for your daughter when it is complete ready also with the Interieur!!!
Thanks for also sharing your fails, very honest and educational. Good work!
Very nice! Thank you for including what didn't work so well, also.
Thank you very much for some Inspiration. Make things easier und have fun at work in the woods. Greethings to Denmark from Bavaria.
thanks for sharing, that was nice load and unload evolution there, getting bigger and bigger logs.
Hardwork & good thinking!
This is BRILLIANT! I loved watching work through the issues you were having. Make the winch drill-powered and it would be even more efficient. SUBSCRIBED!
It's another great video,I like the way you show mistakes as well it good to watch and learn from.i did the leverage way when I worked in the forestry once you get the balance right it was easy,I took the trailer off for bigger logs and used the ATV quad which I used in the forest with the trailer and made ramp used ATV to push big logs up onto trailer. It's surprising what you can do on your own.good videos I'm really enjoying them
Thanks Roy! Yes, it is really surprising what you can do on your own sometimes, and also fun to figure out how to do it :-)
so neat to see someone else making the same mistakes I can see me making. Great job
Great stubbornness and understanding!!! Well done.
The great tinker, tinker, tinker to get the darn thing to work, nice.
Anyway to save my back, works for me. Great job, some good ideas.
Good job Erik. You are a man of ingenuity 🍺
Thanks Graem Elliott :-)
Wow! Outstanding work!
Great Video. I appreciate that you showed your mistakes and successes. I learned a lot from this video. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for taking the time and posting this video
Awesome video Great work !
Well done! Keep the innovation going!
You might have to truss your winch beam if it bends before your standard hole fails. Very cool project.
Thanks for the ideas
Thanks so much. I learned a lot from this video.
I really enjoy your videos.
I would put a chain or strap from just above the winch to a tree to anchor that post so it doesn't bend or break under a load.
Thanks Mike! I have thought of that, but it seems to hold up fine. If I have it to bend someday I think I would reinforce the post instead.
good work !
Thanks lots of ideas.
I wood say u nailed it
Great video my man.
Great tips thanks
Great video Erik! I would go back to the chain system and switch it out for a rope Just shorten it so you don't run out of pull doing it this way keeps the log cantered and when you start out you only need the one line but when it comes up it will be more stable! Only problem with the one line is unless you are in the centre or you have a bent log or have a knot it will swing on you!
Дякую за відео! Ви молодець!
New Zealand has big logging trucks.
Gross Masses of around 150-tonne.
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th-cam.com/video/TIYDVdO0tCQ/w-d-xo.html
-th-cam.com/video/juUb_ymW3PU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WoodleysNZ
th-cam.com/video/vlVsWk5pQ0k/w-d-xo.html
New Zealand- Classic Chip Trucking with 8V92TA-13sp.@ 40t
th-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/w-d-xo.html
NZ farmers block been logged,@57ton gross.
th-cam.com/video/jak7pX6qCiU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/RyoFfk_Qb74/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WoodleysNZ
Great video. Been there, still doing that. The winching technique is called parbuckling, and I load logs on the mill that way, too. I use a 12 Volt winch & deep cycle battery, now. Easier on the shoulder. Nice trailer!
Flott video, som vanlig!
Kjøpte logosol løftejekk denne uka etter å ha sett deg bruke den i en tidligere video. Prøvde den for første gang i dag, og var veldig positivt overrasket! Kommer nok til å bli brukt mye i skogen her! :-)
Tak Stijn, Ja den er rigtig god, og jeg har ikke oplevet at den har tabt et stykke tømmer endnu!
For the last log in the last loading method, would it work if you installed the front vertical bar to prevent the log from swinging out, then use the lifting tool on the rear portion of the log while the strap for the winch is still in place to stabilize? Really appreciate your video. Thank you
Isn't hindsight wonderful. :-) I could tell right away that #4 with chains wouldn't work whereas a strap/pully would. You used a bit of #2 with the 3rd log. Actually #2 looks like fun ... for small logs. Hope you had some fun too.
Your video's are well made and a lot of fun to watch.
Thanks Wiley , I always have fun when I am in the forest, It´s my heaven :-)
Thank you sir.
Now you can use an extension and a socket with your cordless drill to even go faster with the winch. There is another guy I watch on TH-cam that does that and he uses a cable winch and cordless drill ! :-)
Now that´s a thought :-)
You can do the same ramp thing at your sawmill as well ! :-)
good show old bean!
Nice one
Great job if you ask me
Good ideas, I'll try this out one day, but we have much stepper forests to get the wood, any way for the last one big log on top of the two, I might suggest to use 2 chain pulleys, one at each end instead the one in the middle...
thank you for sharing your mistakes too!!!
If you had a good battery powered drill that you could attach where the crank handle is, you could save alot of time and your arm wouldn't be tired
Thanks, yes, someone else told that too, will try it someday :-)
Have a look at Marty T in NZ, too easy.... Marty loads onto a truck tray 2 huge logs using a 12 v winch. It's worth a look.
super! 👍👍👍
Might be able to ramp up to the second layer with the winch might need longer ramps though
you have the hydraulic lift on the back of the tractor and the pto use the machine to do the lifting by creating something that lifts the legs via several pullies that the hydraulics can those legs you made off the side.
"Bad idea" - :-D That was funny.
Du har litt kjøring langs offentlig vei altså. Det er ofte et problem her i "steinrøysa" da henger må være registrert, ha lys, varsel for overhengende last og så videre.
God video! Selv har jeg en liten kran med fjernstyrt elektrisk 12V vinsj på min henger. Det hjelper virkelig til med de tunge løft.
Hej Rolf. de traktor regler har vi også i Danmark, det er svært at overholde dem alle :-)
Great video. Where did you get that wagon? Custom made?
Thanks 09rja, yes the wagon is custom made.
Hi how or where can I buy a forest wagon? Also that log jack sweet
"The road to wisdom?
Well, it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again
but less and less and less."
- Piet Hein
I can take a long look at how you do your job.I was very interested.
Put another winch on the rear upright to control the heaviest logs? Or the Logosol?
i learn alot from my mistakes too
Nice video. Just curious but does your tractor have a PTO? If so, I imagine you could power some sort of winch with it. Maybe use an old car/truck axle and power it with the PTO and use one of the wheel rims like a capstain winch.
yes the tractor has PTO, and if I was doing this every day i would make something like that, but for my now and then use i am happy with this cheap and easy solution :-)
@@Eriks-flying-sawdust-channel Gotcha! Thanks for the reply
Hej Erik.
Herlige videoer du laver. Er det en form for regnbeskyttelse du har over Logosol savværket sidst på videoen? Og hvorledes har du lavet det?
Mange tak Fam Vestergaard. Ja, det er for at beskytte savværket lidt mod elementerne indtil jeg (måske) engang får bygget et tag over det. Det er lavet af udestue tagplader som jeg har rillet op på den ene side så pladen nemmere bøjer på midten.
God idé.
Mit M7 har dog fint klaret at stå udækket i flere år men måske det skulle prøves.
@@famvestergaard447 Logosol reklamerer vist med at de ikke tager skade af at stå i alt slags vejr, men jeg syntes nu alligevel :-) jeg har førhen brugt pressening, men de holder ikke så længe
Brill!
I am 66 & weigh 130 lbs manually load logs me & a hand winch l love figuring out how i am going to get them loaded almost as much as sawing them on my mill & then flip them over
New Zealand has big logging trucks.
Gross Masses of around 150-tonne.
th-cam.com/video/YIXoZzfBJK0/w-d-xo.html,th-cam.com/video/VrE877Ut0nI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WillBishopTrucksNewZealand
th-cam.com/video/TIYDVdO0tCQ/w-d-xo.html
-th-cam.com/video/juUb_ymW3PU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WoodleysNZ
th-cam.com/video/vlVsWk5pQ0k/w-d-xo.html
New Zealand- Classic Chip Trucking with 8V92TA-13sp.@ 40t
th-cam.com/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/w-d-xo.html
NZ farmers block been logged,@57ton gross.
th-cam.com/video/jak7pX6qCiU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/RyoFfk_Qb74/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WoodleysNZ
14:55 нужно было всё делать как и поначалу делали , сидеть на месте , придерживая бревно и крутить лебёдку , бревно бы не перекосилось и не упало , а заскочило бы на прицеп , но ничего , не ошибается тот , кто ничего не делает ! Привет с Украины !
Where did you get the log tool? Looks very handy.
its a logosol smart pusher, try google it :-)
@@Eriks-flying-sawdust-channel thank you
We call that working smarter not harder.
When it comes to a problem a person has to think outside the box, it's the trailer manufacture your trailer? two logs weigh more than one and four logs weigh more than one, use the weight of the multiple logs to elevate the lesser weight! if a person is not using hydraulics to move item A to item B then they have to think of other methods, a huge tree can be pulled clean out of the ground with pully and ropes.
Du må være svensk? haha, hilsen fra Norge. Bra video
Dansk :-)
I use to load logs that way I built a log arch and in is alot easier
Enjoy seeing the problem - solving process....
Why don't you check out a pipefitters grasshopper. Put on a couple of winches and there would be darn little back breaking labor.
…. Есть способ , на основе рычага Архимеда , с помощью которого можно грузить брёвна гораздо тяжелее тех, что мы видим в ролике … Эти способы тоже интересные , Спасибо …
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Use the chain for the 3rd big log . Can you post info on your saw , do they sell in the U.S . ?
The saw is a Jonsered, a swedish saw.
@@Eriks-flying-sawdust-channel thanks for the quick response. Where in Deutschland do you live? I have a friend in Dingofling
@@toddcaskey9984 I live in Denmark, just north of Germany :-)
@@Eriks-flying-sawdust-channel lol , sorry . I was with some Danish in Bosnia, Kosovo , Macedonia and Albania
@@Eriks-flying-sawdust-channel I meant the saw mill . Lol
Build a Krahn for the Trailer and your Work will be easy as can posible !
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where do you get that hand jack from.
I am not sure what it is called in english but it is commen here in denmark www.billigbilpleje.dk/pi/H%C3%A5ndspil-med-8-mtr-b%C3%A5nd-og-krog-max-800-kg_2641305_146353.aspx
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Why don’t you use the hydraulic power of the tractor?
Only buy winches with a worm drive they are far safer.
Where can a guy buy a log wagon?
Dude put longer bars on top of logs that are loaded
Logs?-those are poles
Why not just build something that runs off the tractor hydraulics much easier and more powerful
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