My Grandpa freed a plow horse out of a mud pit with this very winch. When he realized the horse was going to need more help than he and I could give it, he didn't say a word he just went about cutting the timber he needed, put the winch together and he and I pulled that horse up out of the mud. I've never forgotten that and I have admired my Grandpa through my entire life for the expiriences that we shared. He was a smart man.
Thank you for this. I had never seen this or heard of it. I was able to get my son’s hot wheel unstuck from a little mud pit in the backyard sandbox using two toothpicks and dental floss. Life safer!
One way to help minimize the effects of a rope snapping is to drape a blanket or some type of fabric on the rope or cables being stretched. The hope and tendency is that the broken cord will hit the blanket or fabric that is over it. This does not eliminate risk, but it lessens it, and can help you stay safer in a pinch type situation like this one. Very cool video!
That is excellent, very useful advice! My iron rule that I keep reminding myself about like some kind of mantra is simple: "Rule Nr.1 is NO ACCIDENT" meaning do your utmost to avoid injury to yourself or another person. It must always be your major concern, and never cut corners when it comes to well established safety procedures or using standard protective gear. Running any risk of getting harmed out of lazyness is really, really stupid. Especially when you happen to be all by yourself use common sense, maintain self discipline and caution, be very focused and use all your senses to monitor everything involved in that particular task you want to acomplish. train your awareness for risks, when possible do a quick calculation about the forces you are engaging with whenever you want to apply leverage. It will increase greatly your ability to make responsible decisions, a solid understanding of the basic mechanical problems will allow you to do herculean tasks with good confidence in its success, but still expect the unexpected and include a generous safety reserve. I hope that didn't sound too boring, all this stuff can actually be done in a curious, playful mindset and is part of the fun of mastering practical challenges in a really clever, seemingly effortless way. All this becomeseven more rewarding when it is experienced as a team, especially with children or when the sucessfull crew is you and your family being out in the woods. A tip like yours can easily safe a limb or even a life, that is a real treasure what you handed out here. Thank you!
good idea. 1. tie the blanket (or t shirt) in a knot around the line, better than just draping it. stays put, less likely to fall off if the line snaps. 2. i like putting the blanket near end of the line or at the point that is most likely to snap. How do you know? In this video, assuming it's a new rope end to end, it's the truck side. the loop into the bumper will break first, because it's a tighter turn back than the turn at the log. so put the blanket on the truck side about 5 feet away from the turn.
I thought about the rope snapping too. I thought about just piling some heavy branches over the rope to catch the broken end from snapping me. A blanket or something, anything actually, would be prudent.
@@longbowshooter5291most of this advice is a myth. There are some Aussie videos demonstrating that blankets, t-shirts etc have little to no effect on the enormous forces released when a rope or cable snaps. Cable might take a limb off but dyneema might not hospitalise you.
Hi Todd, thanks for the demonstration. One way to mitigate the danger of line snapping is to make the same configuration using a loop of rope rather than a single line. Then tie paracord or some other line loosely around both of the two strands at intervals, so that, should the line snap at a given location, the encircling paracord nearest to the break will prevent the broken end from flying more than a few feet. Incidentally, using a loop will also nearly double your safe load limit.
Totally awesome. I wish I had known this 37 years ago when my truck was stuck on a slope at the edge of a ravine. I had a long rope that we tied to a small tree, several 3' and 4' concrete stakes, sledgehammer, and a few other tools. I knew there had to be a way to manually winch it out but couldn't figure it out. Meanwhile, my friend ran back to a ranger station he had seen a few miles back and got them to come with a 4-wheel drive to pull us out. I had everything I needed but the knowledge.
Great trick. Good idea would to be have trailing wedges behind the vehicle’s tyres so that it can go forwards but not roll back if the rope breaks. Plus a blanket on the ropes to stop whiplash if it lets go.
I recently used a 8 foot length of a 2 by 6 to act as a crowbar to move a truck, I used a 4 foot long 2 by 4 as a wedge behind one tire to keep the truck from backing up. I do not recommend the method I used going up a steep incline though.
This is an amazing tool. Thank you for sharing this information. I couldn't help but thinking about the " ancients" moving huge loads without modern equipment and tools like this show how simple tools can move heavy loads.
Thank you for the update with the barrel log stakes and the paracord loops on the load line for the lever log. I used this basic method years ago as a young Marine to get a vehicle back on the road. We had plenty of muscle available but this method worked without anyone getting hurt. I respectfully suggest driving the barrel log stakes in at an angle so that the log is less likely to slide up the stake and spin around. I also suggest using loops of paracord on the stakes for the barrel log. There are deadly forces stored in this device that will break bones and skulls faster than a man can react. I would only move in the areas around this winch where I would be safest if something goes wrong. Thank you for posting
Appreciate you sharing your advice and experience. Upon further experimentation, I found that I didn't need the stakes at all when I rigged the rope to spool on only one side of the pulley pole. For added safety, I would use stakes if I was pulling really heavy stuff though. With more than one person available, the method would be much safer since no one would have to cross over the line of potential breakage. Thanks again for sharing!
@Mike Trafford not possible. One post is flipped in line with the truck, the other at right angles. Will always need to step over that line to retrive that tangental. Unless you flip it with another post and pull it back with a rope
@Mike Trafford, that's a long walk around the vehicle or the anchor for each operation, now who is going to continue to do that after the first few times? I wonder what could be done to mitigate the danger, otherwise.
I'm am 58 yrs old and have been in the woods or close most of my life in 4x4s starting with mom dad uncles and cousins in a willys army jeep at 3 yrs and Chevy 4x4 at 15 when I got my license. This is the first time I've seen this type of wench but needed one more times than I'll say. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
My Grandpa taught me how to get out of the mud by tying a log/branch onto the wheel. It increases the surface of the tire and enables you to just drive out of the mud while safely seated in the car/truck. This is a great idea as well. It's definitely going in my bag of tricks. Thumbs up!
@@pedridemperi9872 Depends on the wood you're using. If you tie it to the tire treads then be mindful of your wheel wells. If you tie it to the outter wheel to use it more like a paddle then be mindful of your axles.
Mr.Mors Kohanski was my professor / instructor at University of Alberta component of our PE degree anchored with an Outdoor Education course. Little did I know until later( now 56 retired teacher) that we had THE WORLD LEGEND AS A TEACHER. Most humble, unassuming, clarity and precision teaching Ive ever experienced. What an absolute priviledge. RIP.
Mors book Bush Craft is the absolute standard for wilderness and survival techniques as a lifelong trapper hunter and boater. I could not find one questionable technique in the whole book it is simply amazing. You had a great privilege to know this man.
...and the materials needed are light, flexible, and handy for other task . Couple hundred feet of rope, or ropes and a wire saw to cut just %10-%20 into the saplings ALL THE WAY AROUND allows em to be snapped easily instead of cutting all the way through them (much faster).
well it's quite a lot of leveraging to gain a couple of feet ... YET , a couple of feet can make the difference between getting stuck in the middle of nowhere or getting your vehicle out of a mud hole or sand strip , so ... all in all, this is BRILLIANT ... it's simple , needs basically no tools and gets the job done ... for me , it deserves two thumbs up
He moved it more that 3 feet with little effort. A log with a diameter of 4 inches will have a Circumference of 12.5 inches. Each turn was half that, so he moved it 6.25 inches per turn x 6 turns. He could have easily gone farther but this was just a demonstration.
@@JayM409 a log with a diameter of 4 inches has a radius of 2 inches! But I know what you mean is circumference! I enjoyed this clip. No one would ever suggest doing this on a daily basis because it is clearly dangerous, but having the knowledge of the technique is valuable in an emergency. I think if I was doing it I'd double the rope if it was long enough then if one snaps you might have time to dive for cover.
Survival Sherpa , this is a great skill to keep in ones head, so many uses i can think of and changing the diameter of the fulcrum changes gearing, with two people a longer lever could move a house! Thank you for sharing my friend. This goes in my survival vault for sure. Liked & Sub'd
I would rather have slow, than "no" self recovery. You make the point, anything is better than walking home. I am old, fat. and short tempered. I am quite self sufficient. My 4x4 has a winch. But i have found myself in situations where you improvise or die. Any additional skill is another chance to survive.
wish i had this instruction in 1984 when i got stuck in a pond with my truck when i was a teenager, i walked for miles to town to get a tow, great video, thank you for the new winch tool
It’s amazing! Tighten ropes is a very powerful means of engineering! Just a suggestion: using a small piece of wood tightening alongside to the wheel, slightly wider than the size of the wheel, would have the similar of the result of self pulling out of a dip! When the wheel is moved either forward or backwards, the piece of wood will dug into the ground with extra friction to the wheel might be enough force of moving the vehicle! Worth of a try!
With 45 years in construction & using all sorts of lifting and moving devices, and learning all sorts of tricks, I’m delighted to add this one to my arsenal. Very clever! I do a lot of swamp buggying in the Everglades and this is certainly a handy trick to know. Can’t wait to share this video with my swamp buggy buddies. This would work with chain or cable also. Now I’m thinking I should carry some non-stretching Kevlar or Spectra line on the buggy. Nice video! Thank you, sir.
This is an outstanding video, for lots of reasons. Others have mentioned the danger of rope or tow strap breaking and doing a LOT of damage. That reminds me of my dad teaching me to drive 4wd. "if you can't see where you're going, get out and look." and "if you think you'll get stuck or damage your vehicle, you're probably right. Make a new plan."
Most excellent demo on the simple machine winch. Thanks for taking the time and doing all this work for us. So to spell it out for those that obviously need help in the negative comment section. One should always apply some math to fit your particular situation. Survival Sherpa obviously did his as the rope did not break. So let's apply some logic to how this demo benefits us. 1. Going off road with an electric winch that weighs 100 pounds or more mounted on the front of our 4x4 may seem cool until you are stuck and need it on the rear bumper. The added weight uses more gas and the winch is great as long as the cable is long enough and it doesn't breakdown while you are needing it. The winch has the same capacity restrictions as a rope. In other words, 2,000 pound capacity is 2,000 pound capacity. Both will have the kinetic energy you apply to it. Both have the potential to snap and whiplash when the load exceeds capacity. Just for fun which would you rather be hit with? 2. The rope obviously needs to be rated for the load you are using it for the same as the winch cable. The rope is lighter to haul and has more uses than just pulling you out of a ditch. For those that may be math challenged or simply feel synthetic could never be as strong as steel, consider doubling the rope. Survival Sherpa could have easily tied a second and a third rope to his bumper and applied the same technique with the same logs (assuming he had enough rope). 3. Rule of thumb on how to rate rope and cables: Take the maximum weight of the load and multiply by 1.2 which will give you a 20% safety factor. The rope O.E.M. has also included a safety factor but we pretend not to know about it. You could easily hang a 5,000 pound truck by the frame with a 6,000 capacity rope and feel good about it. Connection points, shackles and proper use of knots apply. Now of course this is a simplification and a mere starting point as angles, cutting edges, dead load vs live load and other things come into play. There is no shame , when in doubt double down. For good information search Rigging Techniques online. 4. So there you have it. Rope and Knife are your friend. Do the math and get the proper rope for your maximum potential load and travel safer and more self reliant.
PopLaCork Occurred to me that with enough rope you could put the flip flop line at the midpoint of the line between an anchor point and the object to be moved. 90 degrees to the object line. Use the flip flop line to apply deflection to the main recovery line. Deflection is a big multiplier in itself. This would keep you further away from the main working line. Was taught about line deflection in a swiftwater rescue course a loong time ago.
This is phenomenal! I love Mors but never seen this setup! This is absolutely an amazing technique when and if in need of pulling and or lifting something! Thankyou
This video is gold. If you want to be self reliant, especially in back-up-plan situations, knowledge is power. Great use of that prussik knot, btw. Thanks for the video!
Throw a t-shirt or jacket over the haul line so if the chain, rop or cable breaks it will stop any chance of it killing anyone. I have used it on steel cable of 1.125 inch cable and they stop in a pile under the break every time. Far too many folks get hurt bad that need not get hurt at all. I have been in the bush my entire life and haven't seen one of these. I am truly impressed ! Stop by for a visit new friend ! ! ! Soooo many times 4 to 6 inches is the difference between stuck and not eh !
Or perhaps the dislike is based on the fact he interrupts himself during the flip flop to explain what he has already mentioned several times. He can't do a full flip flop operation without stopping to talk about something like how far the truck has moved, or to explain a 2nd or 3rd time what kind of wood is involved. And now it is closer to 1500 dislikes.
The idea of the "winch damper", or whatever you want to call the fabric or weight you put on the tension line to prevent it from whipping around, has any meaningful effect is just plain incorrect. The amount of force stored up in a line under tension is incredible and the blanket or coat will have effectively 0 effect on the speed of the snapped line's recoil. I would up at this video while researching that exact thing and ran across this video th-cam.com/video/4sRebBY_muQ/w-d-xo.html which is a pretty good, scientific, test of dampers. overall effect of the stuff people usually use: none.
Yes. After I saw a winch cable go through a back and front window and it basically looked like someone slashed the seat with a sword. I think about it every single time I see tow straps hooking up lmao
One of best things I've seen in ages. Thank you for teaching me that simple but extremely useful technique.. we don't carry blocks and tackle around. But we often have rope and a axe.. nice
Phil Cooke I would be careful with calling it safe. Ingenious, however tense rope has been known to remove limbs when snapping, and that was just in Olympic tug of war games.
blows my mind their arms weren't "whipped" off by a returning fast moving rope-end, they were RIPPED off by the recoil force wave of the rope moving so fast they couldn't let go and it ripped their arms off behind them.
I had the great pleasure of listening to Mors for hours and hours when he came to Wales for Bushmoot. Unbelievable depth of knowledge and a great teacher. RIP.
I've watched this video before and I love it! Obviously a person has to be somewhat mechanically inclined. But if you pay attention to what the man says it's a very important lesson in physics. Awesome and thank you for the video.
Thank you for sharing this information.If my poops wasn’t so stubborn he would still be here.Old fashioned Montana ranch boy.He was highly knowledgeable as well.Taught me a whole lot of things. Knowledge and wisdom.
Ingenious, amazing what necessity spawns when need arises. I’ve been rigging in the line work trade for 4 decades, I’ve never seen this used. Thanks for sharing.
I watched you do this when you first did it and then I lost the link. TH-cam put it in my "Pull Pile" and now, I've got the LINK back. THANK YOU AGAIN !!!
Very cool! It's probably best to practice this one a couple of times so you know it a bit before you have to do this in the dark. If it's a vehicle make sure it's not hung up on something that will damage it if dragged out. I'd check underneath after a rescue anyway to make sure break lines and everything else is intact after a pull out also.
This is easily the best demonstration of the flip-flop winch that I've seen on TH-cam, thank you for this! I had the privelage of attending a training course with Mors Kochanski some years ago, what a fellow. Cheers from Toronto, Ontario.
That's a massive mechanical advantage with very basic kit. Thanks for the detailed explanation. It's great to see how you can control the forces on your own with a bit of forward planning. I guess it's about an hour or so to get setup?
Thanks for the in-depth demonstration! I would've never thought to do something like this, this is truly innovative! Truly impressive, I learned a lot today. Keep up the great work!
Amazing. Great tool for those who don't hit their thumb with a hammer. For those who do hit their thumb with a hammer when nailing, move on to a cooking show that does not use knives! Great video...
Watched this 3 or 4 years ago. Wanted to refresh my memory. Great video and instruction. A blanket or similar laid over the rope, or chain for that matter, will help dampen the violent nature of a snapped line.
Watched My Grandpa and His friend do this 40+ years ago in the woods to free the tractor. I wasn't paying attention, I could have learned something (Though in My partial defense I was told to stay far away for now obvious reasons).
People who lived on "family farms" could do anything. With almost nothing. Long before chain saws and tractors, American land was cleared with 2-man saws and mules.
Would work with a chain or cable too. As far as the danger of the rope snapping and injuring you, if you have a heavy coat, blanket, even floor mat, drape it over the rope and it will absorb a lot of the energy when it breaks.
Keep in mind the amount of time it will take to survey your nearby environs, locate appropriate diameter trees to fell (in the probable case of not having any already felled trunks just laying nearby), cutting down the tree, stripping it of all branches, and dragging back to your location. That's could be a lengthy and exhausting endeavor, especially if you have to walk a bit each way and drag the heavy beast back. And then there's digging a hole and inserting the stake poles, unless you're incredibly lucky with two trees already growing in the right spot. I only mention all this, as so much of the focus is on assemblage of the machine and usage, and not that block of time and effort in gathering/manufacturing parts. I do really appreciate your sharing and demonstration of this knowledge and technique.
Great demonstration! when I worked in forest surveys we would drive the truck on bush roads until it got stuck and then walk. We got out with a 4 foot farm jack but that can be dangerous and damage the vehicle. I would caution against using your method of tying the rope to the bumper. The hole thru the steel is a good way to cut the rope. Better to do a wrap or two around the bumper and use a floor mat where there is an edge.
A sub and a like Sherpa. In the last 50 years I’ve been stuck more than a few times. Great skill to teach my citified kids and grandkids. It may help them stay safe one day. Thank you.
Very easy, practical improvisation. Yes watch the full video ref safety measures in case the rope snaps. It is covered. Thank you for sharing. All the best.
Neat demonstration, I'll give credit there. But keep in mind that a bumper isn't always the best attachment point for moving a vehicle. It's preferable to look for recovery-points (hooks or eyeloops) mounted to the chassis under the vehicle body. For many cars or light-trucks, bumpers aren't solidly attached and are liable to break or end up flying off.
Correct of course. That hole in the bumper has edges which are harder on rope than the rounded surface of recovery rings/hooks/loops. For the doubters, ever wonder why rope and cable SHACKLES exist? It's not just for convenience. The proper way to rig rope or cable to a hole like that is to use a shackle. I don't care how Bubba does his because I won't be keeping him company in the ER. Check out military rigging and recovery manuals (free online since they are public domain) and towing industry sites like tow411 for how to rig correctly and efficiently.
This is the kinda stuff I look for! Real practical solutions to problems. So you go out in the bush, make sure you have a generous length of good strong rope. And of course you have an axe. One other comment mentioned a blanket to guard against back lash, also good advice. this stuff is good to know for survival craft as well.
Thank you so much for posting! Never know when this might come in handy! I popped up for my viewing quite randomly. I believe everything has a reason behind it and this is a great piece of knowledge to have when 911 isn't there for you!
That’s an outstanding setup. I’ve had to get out of some bad spots plenty of times. Wish I’d Known this info. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this with us.
Thank you for sharing this clever method. HOWEVER, I implore anyone not to tie their rope straight through a hole like shown on the vehicle bumper. That was a straight hole so has 2 sharp edges and the rope was cinched tight. I strongly suggest having a bow or D shackle in your kit and if possible a sheeve (or some rag wrapped around the shackle) to widen the turn of the rope. The weakest part of a rope is at a tight bend in a knot. 30 years ago I was a rigger and I have seen some nasty results to human flesh when a rope under tension snaps.
My Grandfather showed me the exact same way to pull heavy objects with a flip-flop rope winch and a few years back when I was younger it actually saved me a thousand bucks towing bill. My Wife and I had only been married a year or 2 and were out Elk Hunting in the REAL BACK COUNTRY with my highly modified Toyota 4x4 pick up and the old forest service or logging road we used to get way back in to our camp had experienced a land slide during a hard rain one evening after we had got in to our camp. On the way out we came upon a pile of Bark Beatle killed logs and big chunks of Granite and stuff that completely wiped out this section of road that rounded the mountain so we had to go back and cut our own road out...well we were doing just fine and had gotten past the wiped out road about a 1/4 mile down slope from the road when we had to cross the creek to get to decent terrain to make it back up slope to the road, well the rainfall had turned the entire creek bottom into a soggy muddy mess. We were doing just fine skirting it when we got stuck and I mean Stuck!, clear up to the frame stuck! All 4 wheels were in mud clear up to the hubs....so I had a old Warn 12v winch on the front that I bought second hand and had it gone through and repaired but it failed on me about half way to dry ground....so I trying to think what to do I remembered Grandpa and the Flip Flop....we got our ropes out of the back and cut a good green Ponderosa log for the handle and used a Aspen for the barrel and in about 25-30 minutes we were on dry ground and packing up to carry on up slope to the old trail. 40 min later we were on our way home after a successful Elk Hunt with a hell of a story to tell. So don't underestimate the flip flop.....it works and as long as you can flip and flop your handle....and your cable or rope don't break....your good to go. I'm positive given how far back in we were it would have cost around a thousand bucks to get us out if I had to get help.
As a child this is how i used to get my father out of the pubs here in Ireland 🇮🇪 great video thank you god bless
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That comment ought to have at least 10k likes! That is funny as hell!
@@chrisemerson7743 thanks Chris 🇮🇪🤣🇮🇪
My Grandpa freed a plow horse out of a mud pit with this very winch.
When he realized the horse was going to need more help than he and I could give it, he didn't say a word he just went about cutting the timber he needed, put the winch together and he and I pulled that horse up out of the mud.
I've never forgotten that and I have admired my Grandpa through my entire life for the expiriences that we shared.
He was a smart man.
Your father: Mr. nobody????
@@MichaelKingsfordGraywhat is that even supposed to imply?
@@redeyestones3738 That he, like you, is an anonymous infantile coward, hiding behind a stupid fake name.
Grow up, the both of you.
I look forward to being an awesome grandpa. Thanks for sharing your story!
Kevinsomebody. Glad you had a positive experience with your grandfather. Memories are forever :)
Thank you for this. I had never seen this or heard of it. I was able to get my son’s hot wheel unstuck from a little mud pit in the backyard sandbox using two toothpicks and dental floss. Life safer!
One way to help minimize the effects of a rope snapping is to drape a blanket or some type of fabric on the rope or cables being stretched. The hope and tendency is that the broken cord will hit the blanket or fabric that is over it. This does not eliminate risk, but it lessens it, and can help you stay safer in a pinch type situation like this one. Very cool video!
That is excellent, very useful advice! My iron rule that I keep reminding myself about like some kind of mantra is simple: "Rule Nr.1 is NO ACCIDENT" meaning do your utmost to avoid injury to yourself or another person. It must always be your major concern, and never cut corners when it comes to well established safety procedures or using standard protective gear. Running any risk of getting harmed out of lazyness is really, really stupid. Especially when you happen to be all by yourself use common sense, maintain self discipline and caution, be very focused and use all your senses to monitor everything involved in that particular task you want to acomplish. train your awareness for risks, when possible do a quick calculation about the forces you are engaging with whenever you want to apply leverage. It will increase greatly your ability to make responsible decisions, a solid understanding of the basic mechanical problems will allow you to do herculean tasks with good confidence in its success, but still expect the unexpected and include a generous safety reserve. I hope that didn't sound too boring, all this stuff can actually be done in a curious, playful mindset and is part of the fun of mastering practical challenges in a really clever, seemingly effortless way. All this becomeseven more rewarding when it is experienced as a team, especially with children or when the sucessfull crew is you and your family being out in the woods.
A tip like yours can easily safe a limb or even a life, that is a real treasure what you handed out here. Thank you!
good idea.
1. tie the blanket (or t shirt) in a knot around the line, better than just draping it. stays put, less likely to fall off if the line snaps.
2. i like putting the blanket near end of the line or at the point that is most likely to snap. How do you know? In this video, assuming it's a new rope end to end, it's the truck side. the loop into the bumper will break first, because it's a tighter turn back than the turn at the log. so put the blanket on the truck side about 5 feet away from the turn.
I thought about the rope snapping too. I thought about just piling some heavy branches over the rope to catch the broken end from snapping me. A blanket or something, anything actually, would be prudent.
@@longbowshooter5291most of this advice is a myth. There are some Aussie videos demonstrating that blankets, t-shirts etc have little to no effect on the enormous forces released when a rope or cable snaps. Cable might take a limb off but dyneema might not hospitalise you.
@@teeanahera8949 Yeah, I thought about that, a shirt or blanket wouldn't do it, it would take something more weighty to stop it.
Hi Todd, thanks for the demonstration.
One way to mitigate the danger of line snapping is to make the same configuration using a loop of rope rather than a single line. Then tie paracord or some other line loosely around both of the two strands at intervals, so that, should the line snap at a given location, the encircling paracord nearest to the break will prevent the broken end from flying more than a few feet. Incidentally, using a loop will also nearly double your safe load limit.
Great comment. Came to say something similar.
so just keep like 300ft of cord available?
@@Mrmghz1 I do. Use it more often than the jumper cables and socket wrench that live next to it.
Totally awesome. I wish I had known this 37 years ago when my truck was stuck on a slope at the edge of a ravine. I had a long rope that we tied to a small tree, several 3' and 4' concrete stakes, sledgehammer, and a few other tools. I knew there had to be a way to manually winch it out but couldn't figure it out. Meanwhile, my friend ran back to a ranger station he had seen a few miles back and got them to come with a 4-wheel drive to pull us out. I had everything I needed but the knowledge.
Each time you stepped over that taught rope, my boys both twitched! Thank you Todd.
I have not personally seen this used in the wild, but I commend you for how you explained it. This is an ingenious strategy for a survival situation.
Great trick. Good idea would to be have trailing wedges behind the vehicle’s tyres so that it can go forwards but not roll back if the rope breaks. Plus a blanket on the ropes to stop whiplash if it lets go.
Trailing wedges!
Excellent idea!!
I recently used a 8 foot length of a 2 by 6 to act as a crowbar to move a truck, I used a 4 foot long 2 by 4 as a wedge behind one tire to keep the truck from backing up. I do not recommend the method I used going up a steep incline though.
This is an amazing tool. Thank you for sharing this information. I couldn't help but thinking about the " ancients" moving huge loads without modern equipment and tools like this show how simple tools can move heavy loads.
Thank you for the update with the barrel log stakes and the paracord loops on the load line for the lever log. I used this basic method years ago as a young Marine to get a vehicle back on the road. We had plenty of muscle available but this method worked without anyone getting hurt. I respectfully suggest driving the barrel log stakes in at an angle so that the log is less likely to slide up the stake and spin around. I also suggest using loops of paracord on the stakes for the barrel log. There are deadly forces stored in this device that will break bones and skulls faster than a man can react. I would only move in the areas around this winch where I would be safest if something goes wrong. Thank you for posting
Appreciate you sharing your advice and experience. Upon further experimentation, I found that I didn't need the stakes at all when I rigged the rope to spool on only one side of the pulley pole. For added safety, I would use stakes if I was pulling really heavy stuff though. With more than one person available, the method would be much safer since no one would have to cross over the line of potential breakage. Thanks again for sharing!
@Mike Trafford not possible. One post is flipped in line with the truck, the other at right angles. Will always need to step over that line to retrive that tangental. Unless you flip it with another post and pull it back with a rope
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@Mike Trafford, that's a long walk around the vehicle or the anchor for each operation, now who is going to continue to do that after the first few times? I wonder what could be done to mitigate the danger, otherwise.
I'm am 58 yrs old and have been in the woods or close most of my life in 4x4s starting with mom dad uncles and cousins in a willys army jeep at 3 yrs and Chevy 4x4 at 15 when I got my license. This is the first time I've seen this type of wench but needed one more times than I'll say. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
Great tip. Wish I’d seen this when I was trying to persuade my St Bernard it was bath time.
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@Thomas Turner Wallet opening tools will be described in another video.....when they are discovered.
Bahaha. I have a six pounder with the same 'shyness'. : )
Well you SEEN it now 🤣
Now that’s funny, thanks
My Grandpa taught me how to get out of the mud by tying a log/branch onto the wheel. It increases the surface of the tire and enables you to just drive out of the mud while safely seated in the car/truck. This is a great idea as well. It's definitely going in my bag of tricks. Thumbs up!
How do you tie it on?
@@pedridemperi9872 Depends on the wood you're using. If you tie it to the tire treads then be mindful of your wheel wells. If you tie it to the outter wheel to use it more like a paddle then be mindful of your axles.
Mr.Mors Kohanski was my professor / instructor at University of Alberta component of our PE degree anchored with an Outdoor Education course. Little did I know until later( now 56 retired teacher) that we had THE WORLD LEGEND AS A TEACHER. Most humble, unassuming, clarity and precision teaching Ive ever experienced. What an absolute priviledge. RIP.
Very fortunate for you to have know and learned from Mors. I only wish he had been my professor in my Phys. Ed. degre. Congratulations on retirement!
Mors book Bush Craft is the absolute standard for wilderness and survival techniques as a lifelong trapper hunter and boater. I could not find one questionable technique in the whole book it is simply amazing. You had a great privilege to know this man.
Thank you for adding something to TH-cam that advances knowledge. Very clever. Very very clever.
U goin to hell for that😂
I could have used this trick a few times, being stuck deep in the bush in the Yukon. Having knowledge like this could save a life, Thanks for sharing.
...and the materials needed are light, flexible, and handy for other task . Couple hundred feet of rope, or ropes and a wire saw to cut just %10-%20 into the saplings ALL THE WAY AROUND allows em to be snapped easily instead of cutting all the way through them (much faster).
I'm guessing that bird shreeking in the background is the female. (anyone know what breed it is?)
Mr. treg, yes this is called a trick. Knowledge is a "come along". $23, Home Depot.
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@@forsale3783 That's true, the trick is staying alive, and knowledge is how you do it.
out of the countless hours I've spent watching youtube videos, I must say this has been the most informative 12.5 min. I'm impressed.
Wow! Thank you for the encouraging words and support, Mike!
well it's quite a lot of leveraging to gain a couple of feet ... YET , a couple of feet can make the difference between getting stuck in the middle of nowhere or getting your vehicle out of a mud hole or sand strip , so ... all in all, this is BRILLIANT ... it's simple , needs basically no tools and gets the job done ... for me , it deserves two thumbs up
He moved it more that 3 feet with little effort. A log with a diameter of 4 inches will have a Circumference of 12.5 inches. Each turn was half that, so he moved it 6.25 inches per turn x 6 turns. He could have easily gone farther but this was just a demonstration.
@@JayM409 a log with a diameter of 4 inches has a radius of 2 inches! But I know what you mean is circumference! I enjoyed this clip. No one would ever suggest doing this on a daily basis because it is clearly dangerous, but having the knowledge of the technique is valuable in an emergency. I think if I was doing it I'd double the rope if it was long enough then if one snaps you might have time to dive for cover.
@@clivejones7104 - corrected, thank you.
@@JayM409 no problem. I was just being clever - I knew exactly what you meant!
If you had a helper or helpers that knew your goal this could actually go rather quickly.
Outstanding demonstration. Thanks for showing an easy way to do a natural winch technique without unnecessary tools.
brilliant improvised winch, I'll be showing this to the scouts. it's always good to have alternative ways of doing things
They'll love it. Our troop sure did.
but the scouts cant even drive vehicles!
You might want to pull something else. Or help someone else out of a ditch.
It's all about being prepared.
Survival Sherpa , this is a great skill to keep in ones head, so many uses i can think of and changing the diameter of the fulcrum changes gearing, with two people a longer lever could move a house! Thank you for sharing my friend. This goes in my survival vault for sure.
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A little slow, but much faster than walking home! I haven't seen this done before. Great idea!
I would rather have slow, than "no" self recovery. You make the point, anything is better than walking home. I am old, fat. and short tempered. I am quite self sufficient. My 4x4 has a winch. But i have found myself in situations where you improvise or die. Any additional skill is another chance to survive.
@@rodx5571 "i have found myself in situations where you improvise or die"...I seriously doubt that!
@@knifedetective259 Knife detective, always a troll spreading hate. Yes i mean you.
@@rodx5571 Its not hate to doubt someone. Always an SJW trying to virtue signal. Yes I mean YOU!
@Robert Grosser And a lot more money.....
wish i had this instruction in 1984 when i got stuck in a pond with my truck when i was a teenager, i walked for miles to town to get a tow, great video, thank you for the new winch tool
It’s amazing! Tighten ropes is a very powerful means of engineering!
Just a suggestion: using a small piece of wood tightening alongside to the wheel, slightly wider than the size of the wheel, would have the similar of the result of self pulling out of a dip! When the wheel is moved either forward or backwards, the piece of wood will dug into the ground with extra friction to the wheel might be enough force of moving the vehicle! Worth of a try!
With 45 years in construction & using all sorts of lifting and moving devices, and learning all sorts of tricks, I’m delighted to add this one to my arsenal. Very clever! I do a lot of swamp buggying in the Everglades and this is certainly a handy trick to know. Can’t wait to share this video with my swamp buggy buddies. This would work with chain or cable also. Now I’m thinking I should carry some non-stretching Kevlar or Spectra line on the buggy. Nice video! Thank you, sir.
Hey, do you know anyone who does hunts with disabled? I'm in Broward.
This is an outstanding video, for lots of reasons. Others have mentioned the danger of rope or tow strap breaking and doing a LOT of damage. That reminds me of my dad teaching me to drive 4wd. "if you can't see where you're going, get out and look." and "if you think you'll get stuck or damage your vehicle, you're probably right. Make a new plan."
Most excellent demo on the simple machine winch. Thanks for taking the time and doing all this work for us.
So to spell it out for those that obviously need help in the negative comment section. One should always apply some math to fit your particular situation. Survival Sherpa obviously did his as the rope did not break.
So let's apply some logic to how this demo benefits us.
1. Going off road with an electric winch that weighs 100 pounds or more mounted on the front of our 4x4 may seem cool until you are stuck and need it on the rear bumper. The added weight uses more gas and the winch is great as long as the cable is long enough and it doesn't breakdown while you are needing it. The winch has the same capacity restrictions as a rope. In other words, 2,000 pound capacity is 2,000 pound capacity. Both will have the kinetic energy you apply to it. Both have the potential to snap and whiplash when the load exceeds capacity. Just for fun which would you rather be hit with?
2. The rope obviously needs to be rated for the load you are using it for the same as the winch cable. The rope is lighter to haul and has more uses than just pulling you out of a ditch. For those that may be math challenged or simply feel synthetic could never be as strong as steel, consider doubling the rope. Survival Sherpa could have easily tied a second and a third rope to his bumper and applied the same technique with the same logs (assuming he had enough rope).
3. Rule of thumb on how to rate rope and cables: Take the maximum weight of the load and multiply by 1.2 which will give you a 20% safety factor. The rope O.E.M. has also included a safety factor but we pretend not to know about it. You could easily hang a 5,000 pound truck by the frame with a 6,000 capacity rope and feel good about it. Connection points, shackles and proper use of knots apply. Now of course this is a simplification and a mere starting point as angles, cutting edges, dead load vs live load and other things come into play. There is no shame , when in doubt double down. For good information search Rigging Techniques online.
4. So there you have it. Rope and Knife are your friend. Do the math and get the proper rope for your maximum potential load and travel safer and more self reliant.
PopLaCork Occurred to me that with enough rope you could put the flip flop line at the midpoint of the line between an anchor point and the object to be moved. 90 degrees to the object line. Use the flip flop line to apply deflection to the main recovery line. Deflection is a big multiplier in itself. This would keep you further away from the main working line. Was taught about line deflection in a swiftwater rescue course a loong time ago.
I am a 36 year( experience) field geologist and I have never seen this technique. Thank you, I will be sharing this with my staff.
How about you share with them how NOT to get bogged and be in this situation in the first place.
@@knifedetective259 Already done but they will still get stuck because 5hit happens in the real world.
@@vernshein5430 Shit happens only by assholes
@@knifedetective259 Like you.
@@vernshein5430 Im not the one bogging vehicles. But hey what can I say, ur a bunch of rock lickers and thats to be expected by you lot.
This is phenomenal! I love Mors but never seen this setup! This is absolutely an amazing technique when and if in need of pulling and or lifting something! Thankyou
This video is gold. If you want to be self reliant, especially in back-up-plan situations, knowledge is power. Great use of that prussik knot, btw. Thanks for the video!
Throw a t-shirt or jacket over the haul line so if the chain, rop or cable breaks it will stop any chance of it killing anyone. I have used it on steel cable of 1.125 inch cable and they stop in a pile under the break every time. Far too many folks get hurt bad that need not get hurt at all. I have been in the bush my entire life and haven't seen one of these. I am truly impressed ! Stop by for a visit new friend ! ! ! Soooo many times 4 to 6 inches is the difference between stuck and not eh !
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Fricken amazing, thanks for crediting Mr. Kohansky.
Always good idea to throw a blanket or coat over the rope to the truck to keep it from whipping if it breaks
Joe Ludovici best comment/suggestion...
I remember my old man doing that long ago. I was too young to understand why that was. Now I know. Cheers 👍
Or perhaps the dislike is based on the fact he interrupts himself during the flip flop to explain what he has already mentioned several times. He can't do a full flip flop operation without stopping to talk about something like how far the truck has moved, or to explain a 2nd or 3rd time what kind of wood is involved. And now it is closer to 1500 dislikes.
The idea of the "winch damper", or whatever you want to call the fabric or weight you put on the tension line to prevent it from whipping around, has any meaningful effect is just plain incorrect.
The amount of force stored up in a line under tension is incredible and the blanket or coat will have effectively 0 effect on the speed of the snapped line's recoil.
I would up at this video while researching that exact thing and ran across this video th-cam.com/video/4sRebBY_muQ/w-d-xo.html which is a pretty good, scientific, test of dampers. overall effect of the stuff people usually use: none.
It's hard to predict where the rope could break. Better put a blanket on both ends.
Yes. After I saw a winch cable go through a back and front window and it basically looked like someone slashed the seat with a sword. I think about it every single time I see tow straps hooking up lmao
Almost got stuck in the Costa Rican rain forest. Now it doesn't matter with
your video. Thanks and Godspeed. JUST SUBSCRIBED !
One of best things I've seen in ages. Thank you for teaching me that simple but extremely useful technique.. we don't carry blocks and tackle around. But we often have rope and a axe.. nice
Neat, sweet and simple, above all controllable and, within common sense, safe. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Phil. There are always risks involved with survival methods, heck, even waking up holds risks, right? Appreciate your comment and watching!
Phil Cooke I would be careful with calling it safe. Ingenious, however tense rope has been known to remove limbs when snapping, and that was just in Olympic tug of war games.
Risk is relative. When needs order...
Oh shit. I had to google it, it's freaking unbelievable
blows my mind their arms weren't "whipped" off by a returning fast moving rope-end, they were RIPPED off by the recoil force wave of the rope moving so fast they couldn't let go and it ripped their arms off behind them.
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I had the great pleasure of listening to Mors for hours and hours when he came to Wales for Bushmoot. Unbelievable depth of knowledge and a great teacher. RIP.
This kind of thing should be taught in schools all across the world. Genius! Yet so simple.
I like this and thank you for sharing, I work in the oil fields in Alaska, and I will be able to use this EVERYDAY. Very useful knowledge!
If you're using this method every day you might consider getting a winch.
@@terrywaters6186 or try shifting out of park
Use drill rod and steel cable instead of poles and rope.
@Nate Townsend obviously you would need a sand anchor as well in that region ;)
I've watched this video before and I love it! Obviously a person has to be somewhat mechanically inclined. But if you pay attention to what the man says it's a very important lesson in physics. Awesome and thank you for the video.
Thank you for sharing this information.If my poops wasn’t so stubborn he would still be here.Old fashioned Montana ranch boy.He was highly knowledgeable as well.Taught me a whole lot of things. Knowledge and wisdom.
70 years ago my Grand Daddy called this method the "Ground Hog Pry". Thanks a lot for showing it.
Ingenious, amazing what necessity spawns when need arises. I’ve been rigging in the line work trade for 4 decades, I’ve never seen this used. Thanks for sharing.
I watched you do this when you first did it and then I lost the link. TH-cam put it in my "Pull Pile" and now, I've got the LINK back. THANK YOU AGAIN !!!
Wow, what a great idea! I would never have thought of that by myself. It's amazing what you can do with basic materials and some ingenuity.
Very nice! Wish I knew about this mechanism about 40 yrs ago! Thank you!
I've watched and re-watched this video several times in about three years. This is ingenious!
This is one of the more informative videos that I have watched on TH-cam.
Very cool! It's probably best to practice this one a couple of times so you know it a bit before you have to do this in the dark. If it's a vehicle make sure it's not hung up on something that will damage it if dragged out. I'd check underneath after a rescue anyway to make sure break lines and everything else is intact after a pull out also.
Videos such as yours are the reason why I love surfing TH-cam. Thanks for sharing!
This is invaluable information.
makes me feel smarter knowing how to do this.
I needed to see this 40 years ago when I was a young buck doing all kind of stupid things young men do with their trucks. Thanks for the video.
“Young buck” good grief
Vix Tious ok normie
This is easily the best demonstration of the flip-flop winch that I've seen on TH-cam, thank you for this! I had the privelage of attending a training course with Mors Kochanski some years ago, what a fellow. Cheers from Toronto, Ontario.
This is what I call a Spanish Yoke and it's got me out of trouble a couple of times. Thanks for posting
this is so simple only a Pollock could have used it the first time
Are you not referring to a Spanish windlass, which is actually something different?
Thanks a ton bud, really helped pulling my car up the driveway (got no feet so I can't push). Have a good weekend!
Thanks a ‘ton’ c”,) no pun intended haha
A buddy of mine was talking about this earlier today so he sent me the video. This brilliant!!
Knowing this could have saved me hundreds of $. Enjoyed your video greatly! THANKS ! !
That's a massive mechanical advantage with very basic kit. Thanks for the detailed explanation. It's great to see how you can control the forces on your own with a bit of forward planning. I guess it's about an hour or so to get setup?
Been a long time since I was introduced to this application of the lever. Thanks for the reminder.
Awesome tip. Great for when your snowmobile is stuck and you're alone. Cheers.
It would be perfect for that.
Great presentation. But what I really enjoyed was listening to the hawk screeching in the background.
Loving it. It's so irritating to learn tricks like this, but never need to use... and so you forget all about it.
Thanks for the in-depth demonstration! I would've never thought to do something like this, this is truly innovative! Truly impressive, I learned a lot today. Keep up the great work!
That is an excellent video. thank you for sharing your knowledge. Appreciate it.
I love those who do something good for the humanity. Thank you Sir.
Amazing. Great tool for those who don't hit their thumb with a hammer. For those who do hit their thumb with a hammer when nailing, move on to a cooking show that does not use knives! Great video...
lol good point -except there is only one way to learn how to not hit thumb. hit it enough times you'll figure it out! or lose your thumb!
Thank you for sharing your wisdom! Very much appreciated here! 🍻
thanks! work smarter not harder and working off grid - often alone - this is a great demo for me.
This video made me have one of those "Now why didn't I think of that?" moments. Thanks for sharing. It just makes sense!
never seen this one Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks for sharing.
Watched this 3 or 4 years ago. Wanted to refresh my memory. Great video and instruction. A blanket or similar laid over the rope, or chain for that matter, will help dampen the violent nature of a snapped line.
Watched My Grandpa and His friend do this 40+ years ago in the woods to free the tractor. I wasn't paying attention, I could have learned something (Though in My partial defense I was told to stay far away for now obvious reasons).
Yeah that is the only part I miss in retrospect - how to handle the possibility of snapping
People who lived on "family farms" could do anything. With almost nothing. Long before chain saws and tractors, American land was cleared with 2-man saws and mules.
Good video. Thanks for sharing.
Wish I'd seen this six months ago. Had some big rocks that needed to be moved. I know it would've worked.
If you have a strong enough rope and good anchor and a lever long enough you can move about anything. Thanks for watching!
Would work with a chain or cable too. As far as the danger of the rope snapping and injuring you, if you have a heavy coat, blanket, even floor mat, drape it over the rope and it will absorb a lot of the energy when it breaks.
julie r another tip. Drive towards the winch once free, to take off tension.
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yes, but he showed the way in case it is an object not on wheels...like a log etc.
Keep in mind the amount of time it will take to survey your nearby environs, locate appropriate diameter trees to fell (in the probable case of not having any already felled trunks just laying nearby), cutting down the tree, stripping it of all branches, and dragging back to your location. That's could be a lengthy and exhausting endeavor, especially if you have to walk a bit each way and drag the heavy beast back. And then there's digging a hole and inserting the stake poles, unless you're incredibly lucky with two trees already growing in the right spot. I only mention all this, as so much of the focus is on assemblage of the machine and usage, and not that block of time and effort in gathering/manufacturing parts.
I do really appreciate your sharing and demonstration of this knowledge and technique.
Such a handy tip. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Tidy Bach , simple but very effective. Handy tip to have in your armoury.
Thanks, Neil!
This is a brilliant and simple fix to what could be a devastating problem. Think beach and rising tide. Thanks for providing.
Great demonstration! when I worked in forest surveys we would drive the truck on bush roads until it got stuck and then walk. We got out with a 4 foot farm jack but that can be dangerous and damage the vehicle.
I would caution against using your method of tying the rope to the bumper. The hole thru the steel is a good way to cut the rope. Better to do a wrap or two around the bumper and use a floor mat where there is an edge.
Good tip.
A sub and a like Sherpa. In the last 50 years I’ve been stuck more than a few times. Great skill to teach my citified kids and grandkids. It may help them stay safe one day. Thank you.
Thank you.
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This morning, I pulled a small willow tree out of the ground. Worked like a dream.
Very easy, practical improvisation. Yes watch the full video ref safety measures in case the rope snaps. It is covered.
Thank you for sharing.
All the best.
Very well done. Thanks for sharing.
Many thanks, sir!
This is going to help a lot of folk who are stuck out in the wild. Great video, thanks.
Thank you for sharing this knowledge 👍
Good one I'll be filling that away in the back of my mind. Which reminds me I need to get back there and straighten out them files.
Thank you, David. My files are usually in a clutter, lol.
Thanks, I got a chuckle out of that;
Relate.
@@BADALICE ikr, i was gona say while youre at it will straighten mine out too please? ;-)
Ingenious! Never seen this before. Thanks for sharing. Cheers! 👍
Brilliant, loved the video and the concept, well done Sir.
Neat demonstration, I'll give credit there. But keep in mind that a bumper isn't always the best attachment point for moving a vehicle. It's preferable to look for recovery-points (hooks or eyeloops) mounted to the chassis under the vehicle body. For many cars or light-trucks, bumpers aren't solidly attached and are liable to break or end up flying off.
Good point. Thanks for sharing!
pauljs75 he tied it into a tow hitch hole though lol... those r secured to the frame
Correct of course.
That hole in the bumper has edges which are harder on rope than the rounded surface of recovery rings/hooks/loops.
For the doubters, ever wonder why rope and cable SHACKLES exist? It's not just for convenience. The proper way to rig rope or cable to a hole like that is to use a shackle. I don't care how Bubba does his because I won't be keeping him company in the ER. Check out military rigging and recovery manuals (free online since they are public domain) and towing industry sites like tow411 for how to rig correctly and efficiently.
This bumper looks pretty solid, but I prefer to wrap tow-ropes around the ball hitch on my bumper. Round, smooth and won't cut rope.
You will break that rope long before you will rip off a steel bumper
This is the kinda stuff I look for! Real practical solutions to problems. So you go out in the bush, make sure you have a generous length of good strong rope. And of course you have an axe. One other comment mentioned a blanket to guard against back lash, also good advice. this stuff is good to know for survival craft as well.
I remember seeing this in action as a kid. Thats for helping me to remember this great technique
Thank you so much for posting! Never know when this might come in handy! I popped up for my viewing quite randomly. I believe everything has a reason behind it and this is a great piece of knowledge to have when 911 isn't there for you!
That’s an outstanding setup. I’ve had to get out of some bad spots plenty of times. Wish I’d Known this info. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this with us.
Just watched this video it’s great. I can’t believe I’ve never seen or even heard of this before. Thanks for posting
Thank you for sharing this clever method. HOWEVER, I implore anyone not to tie their rope straight through a hole like shown on the vehicle bumper. That was a straight hole so has 2 sharp edges and the rope was cinched tight. I strongly suggest having a bow or D shackle in your kit and if possible a sheeve (or some rag wrapped around the shackle) to widen the turn of the rope. The weakest part of a rope is at a tight bend in a knot. 30 years ago I was a rigger and I have seen some nasty results to human flesh when a rope under tension snaps.
I had my doubts but they dissolved as the demo progressed. Awesome!
loved it, very informative and effective in more than 1 situation
Many thanks, Mark!
I just became a little more knowledgeable on getting unstuck in the woods. Thank you.
My Grandfather showed me the exact same way to pull heavy objects with a flip-flop rope winch and a few years back when I was younger it actually saved me a thousand bucks towing bill.
My Wife and I had only been married a year or 2 and were out Elk Hunting in the REAL BACK COUNTRY with my highly modified Toyota 4x4 pick up and the old forest service or logging road we used to get way back in to our camp had experienced a land slide during a hard rain one evening after we had got in to our camp. On the way out we came upon a pile of Bark Beatle killed logs and big chunks of Granite and stuff that completely wiped out this section of road that rounded the mountain so we had to go back and cut our own road out...well we were doing just fine and had gotten past the wiped out road about a 1/4 mile down slope from the road when we had to cross the creek to get to decent terrain to make it back up slope to the road, well the rainfall had turned the entire creek bottom into a soggy muddy mess.
We were doing just fine skirting it when we got stuck and I mean Stuck!, clear up to the frame stuck! All 4 wheels were in mud clear up to the hubs....so I had a old Warn 12v winch on the front that I bought second hand and had it gone through and repaired but it failed on me about half way to dry ground....so I trying to think what to do I remembered Grandpa and the Flip Flop....we got our ropes out of the back and cut a good green Ponderosa log for the handle and used a Aspen for the barrel and in about 25-30 minutes we were on dry ground and packing up to carry on up slope to the old trail. 40 min later we were on our way home after a successful Elk Hunt with a hell of a story to tell. So don't underestimate the flip flop.....it works and as long as you can flip and flop your handle....and your cable or rope don't break....your good to go. I'm positive given how far back in we were it would have cost around a thousand bucks to get us out if I had to get help.
I’ll remember this technique for the rest of my days, for this I thank you. Oh ya I just subscribed to your channel.
Many thanks for the support!