Modern Square Driveway Pour with Floating Step! (TOUGH POUR!)
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- Here is Pour day as we lay down the concrete for the driveway and walkway area. We also put a floating step in the walkway to give the front entrance more appeal while also pouring a small concrete retaining wall! Hope you all enjoy and don't forget to LIKE,SHARE,SUBSCRIBE and COMMENT!
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Thanks for sharing that learning with forms too close and concrete getting in between. It helps us learn for the next project. Cheers!
YW
GL
It’s great you guys man up when you create a ‘challenge’ situation and admit it could have done better. Shows what absolute pros you really are.
We always try to improve
I watch this in amazement. I would find it overwhelming to even try to set up the lumber . Great Team . Nice job 👍🏻
I am enjoying the look of this project. You gave me a good idea. I might saw cut out a couple sections of my driveway and do some brick inlays. Can't wait to see it finished with the black stone!
I wouldn't do brick in that situation because the slabs move and pop the brick
@@OdellCompleteConcrete thanks for the feedback!
Tim did an excellent job with that so far. I want to see the whole project finished.
Me too
TY
me too
Do anyone know how to finish concrete anymore, other than broom?
It definitely looks well worth all the hard work!
Yes it was!
Wow, such a pain, backbreaker! Overall, looking good so far, particular the floating step. This project gave me more idea.
Great to hear!
This looks amazing
ty
Once more, it is gorgeous
TY
With the headache I bet it still looks fabulous. Your son is learning from the best around. I wish y’all lived in Texas. I could keep you busy for sure.
The hard way is the best way
Great job
On a similar job we used 3/4 stakes and pre-trimmed flush to the top of all 2x4 frames and covered gaps with overlapping layers of red stucco tape to keep out concrete from falling in the gaps. Finishers sponged off the red tape as they edged and then upon frame removal, we Sawzalled through the nails holding the stakes to the 2x4's and pulled out the between stakes and the pre-oiled 2x4's came out pretty easy. We debated if we were overthinking it but it worked out great and was a easy removal due to an hour of taping the joints.
It's all in the prep
im confused as hell what you are saying
Thats a good concept but with form oil and screeds, edgers, hand floats and other things hitting the top of the form, tape is not going to hold. I recommend putting a flexible filler in between the forms, like expansion foam, backer rod.
Thats right set up is the key to sucess
Or just be careful. Did many like these and it's imperative to not throw any concrete in that space. Then the 2x4 comes out with a couple taps.
Im learning to do Concrete work with my dad and I actually really enjoy it, very happy to have found your channel, and also very jealous of some of the tools yall use that we dont! :D
Eventually
TY
Nice job bro!
Thanks for the visit
Yeah the form removal was tough, but the job is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Me too TY
Good job👍
Thank you! Cheers!
"Live and learn". Good attitude to have. I would have been beside myself.
The best way
Bellísimo trabajo felicidades excelente equipo de profesionales 👏 👍 💪
TY
ODELL DA GOAT BACK AT IT AGAIN LOVE FROM TORONTO
TY
Great job Kid! Mistakes should only happen Once! I’m sure that’ll never happen again! Looking nice so far! Can’t wait for part 2! Maybe 3! 😅🤩🤩🫡👌
Me too
TY
@@OdellCompleteConcrete try a 4x2 and have ins polystyrene each side of 4x2 the same shape and grease it up thanks noel ireland 🇮🇪
Burk bar would be pretty handy in that situation. I’ve used the foam expansion in a similar application and it’s night and day difference.
awesome job yall. a puller tool would work good on removing those stubborn form boards. it could be a piece of all thread with a hook at the end and there could be a frame that sits ontop of the concrete to pull against. and the hook will drop down under the form board and then turn the all thread to pull the form out.
could also lay an 8"x8" wood block on the concrete and lay a burkes bar across the block and hook a chain on the end of the bar and the bottom of the chain hooks on the form board and pry that stubber biotch out of there.
ive got a spec house build starting soon and these squares would look nice. so glad yall make these videos for us. thanks so much.
Good ideas
TY
Well he learned something new of what not to do so it wasn't a total waste. Your videos are getting such better quality.
I concur
TY
Good video
Ty
Pulling those forms sure looks rough. Cool video. Thanks
I don't recommend it
Where do you get your long groover that goes on the pole, and the "funny trowel"? Is there a place online I can get them? Also your videos are awesome, your a great concrete man. Keep pushing the videos.
Put a screw on the 2x4 get a crow bar the yellow ones from Home Depot put a 2x4 wedge on the bottom of the crow bar to create leverage and pry up , I did a rock and cement driveway in Mexico with 4” spacing it was a nightmare to get out but that’s how i found it easiest!
Good move
The pour was amazing. Sucks the wood got stuck. Live and learn.
Your right!
it's cool to see you're a little critical of your son on this job. it's not easy to be a dad
Practice makes perfect
You’re such a busy business lol. 😄
Busy body
On my job I tape them up and spray with form oil.. still struggle a bit but way easier
You could use 3/4 inch strips of pink or blue insulation foam between the 2 by 4 lumber so no concrete fills the space. Then use a solvent, perhaps gasoline to dissolve the foam and create a space, then remove the form boards.
Good idea. the foam is flexible so I don't think you would have to remove it first to get the forms out
Should have used the strong duct tape or roll of expansion foam between each piece of lumber. We had that exact same mistake, but we solved it quickly by using a 1inch wood auger bit and drilled the wood at on a 45.
Nice move
Sorry about your disaster in Arizona, my concrete brother. Prayers.
TY
John
I don't know anything about concrete, but I worked as a boat builder making forms for a long time. We used blue foam strips in many of our forms. Then we melted it with acetone. Probably not acceptable, but I was wondering if it would work and would it be cost effective?
Good idea
I agree using the black or grey half inch pipe insulating foam between the form boards would keep the concrete out.
That's what I would use next time
thx
great video David! Since that time how do you prep the forms for easy removal once the concrete sets up? Will motor oil do the trick? Also what is the recommended width if you want to add river rock in the joints?
4" minimal.
The trick for removal is no concrete in between the forms
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Agreed! You once mentioned using some sort of expandable removable foam in the joints to keep the concrete from spilling in. Have you tried that? Seemed like a good idea!
Some foam in the caps between the boards would have been the way to go like you said. I think what would have helped to get these out is if you made a few rip cuts with a skil saw at full depth. 3 cuts and you would have opened up about a 1/4"
Yes rip cuts would have help
The intro, I like it don’t love it but is good.
TY
@@OdellCompleteConcrete I like the way you guys work, is so clean. Love it 👏👏👏
Hi Nick innovated concrete I use paper in between the joints grade has to be tight and I’ve done them with 2-1/4” joints using 1x4 acid etched pewter came out beautifull anyway keep on you guys do nice work
Ty
Gl
You got to have these kinds of problems to be able to adjust for the next time you do something similar and don't have the same results , pour is looking good
It works out in the end
How about screwing into the boards some Simpson SDS screws halfway then using a pry bar on the screws to pull the boards out?
what’s going in between each slab your poured? looks cool but looks like a huge PIA to pour
Yes it was. Black river rock
Expansion foam is the way to go, still use the stakes with a toenailed screw left out far enough to find and remove
I concur
TY
Hi Dave, I got a classic rookie question … the 2x4 screed board that they are using at first, is it planed at all to make sure it is flat with crisp edge or is it of-the shelf piece? I am curious because of usual crown/bow type of issues with framing lumber. In your line of work its all about super-level and crisp lines etc. Great work per usual. Always something to learn. Thanks in advance.
Its just a stock straight 2 x 4. It is nice to find one with a crown sometmes/
I assume they use a very straight board but I doubt they worry about the edge since they will come float it out and smooth it after.
Use a Cedar 2x4 expensive but us professionals use them because they are nice and straight and light.
@@7.3powerstroke6 That makes totally sense. Thanks! 👊
I was wondering could 1xs work ? Probably would need more steaks in between for sure but will have more play in between gaps
Maybe
I want to build a large patio by myself. 16' x 22', but I am just wondering if it's possible to build it section by section like this video.
Yes you can.
Would this type of driveway work in an area that has cold weather. Snow frost etc. I just was wondering if the water in between might freeze or frost heave etc?
Throw some gravel under it
I'd be so worried about chipping the edges getting those forms out.
that would add a unique touch
Yes
Odell,we fill gap with fine sand and then cut black paper 3", staple with lathers hammer tacker,pour carefully, forms come right out.
Tim Brookhart
Carlsbad CA
Nice technique
Bro - would it have helped to have covered the forms with plastic before the pour - that way the concrete would not have stuck to the forms? I am sure you sprayed with oil first maybe.
a johnson bar might have helped out. great work!
For sure
What if you were to stuff pipe insulation or if it’s to narrow maybe backer rod down between the 2xs?I don’t think it would be that more expensive than spray foam
I think that's a great idea.
TY
could some industrial/commercial mold release on the forms helped?
What cameras do you use?
Great work as always
Go pro
I'm wondering if that jack hammer form removal technique helped the slabs heave upon each other
I hope not
I just poured a very similar driveway, 8" wide forms for pavers, yeah stripping it sucked
I’ve used backer rod
Big fan.
Did you say the driveway pavers are 8’x8’?
Yes that sounds about right
Dude I love your videos. And as always great contractors like you are just booked solid and hard to get estimates and work done. I am located in San Francisco South Bay Area and I think you are not in this area?
Your right, I'm in Orange County
Damn that's rough on the boyz... Would have killed me! 😄
For sure
Beautiful job. What is meant by "Last to go off"?
OSS
Did seeing your boy live and learn remind you of your days getting going?
Yes
I appreciate all the work put into this pour. Why wouldnt you just saw cut and clean it out thin strip. Or, you could clean it when its wet.
Next time
Looks nice. Maybe a small strip of wood in the middle to avoid concrete going inside.
Small enough to where you don’t have a problem to level the concrete
I was thinking expansion foam
Excellent job and how much would something like this cost?
10000
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Much Appreciated and again, excellent work.
Looks like a few chips were unavoidable. Any way to fix those?
Yes, they got fixed
Could you fill the gaps with sand which you could pressure wash out once it's all dry?
Good idea
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Interested in a quote. What a ballpark price per sq ft for something like this? Thank you
similar DIY and i stuck newspaper in between the forms
I like that idea for a on the spot remedy
Where is the final finished video of this driveway.
You could have tried a multitool to cut the lenghts down and this would most likely help with the removal. Great job though. Thanks
For sure
Run chopsaw between forms to create a tension release
Bingo
Яку марку бетону використовуєте?
How did you fix up the chipped edges?
Grinder
Live and learn is right! It’ll look good in the end so it’s alright. Man o man how much does this stuff cost? Will your “mistake” cost the client more man hours?
Haha no it’s on me but yes live and learn!
Any chance to get a time frame of when to float, mag, and finish?
Sure
Do you work with a landscape designer for all this?
No
A funny thought. Native plants to the area are drought tolerant. Wouldn’t that suggest that drought in the desert is nothing new? 😅
Yes
What pump is being used here?
Olin
Maybe could have screwed a lag bolt and chain to the 2x4 and attach the other end of chain to a jack to pull em up?
Would have just broken the 2x4s, made nice kindling though
We did a job with random sized squares. MY GOD The Entire area was like 20 x 50 ALL random sizes, 2 x 3, 6 x 5, 3 x 3, 3 x 6 etc. We poured it all at once, what a nightmare keeping up with edging but we got it done. Sand finish also
Lots of edges are challenging
Good job! Но выковыривать доски между плитами, то ещё удовольствие)
ty
With joints that close I would have used 1x4s where to squares meet and 2x4s on the perimeter. Cut wood spacers to put in between the 1x4s to maintain distance. 1x4s are much easier to strip. Once you pull the spacers out they flex away from the concrete
That sounds good
@@OdellCompleteConcrete That leaves you 2 1/2 inches to clean out any concrete with a margin trowel while your on the sliders
Next time, put your base filler first, level it out, compact it as usual, then when you start forming use 1 piece of 2x4 squeezed in between 2 pieces of high density styrofoam to the thickness needed
I like it
done.
👍👏👏👏👏
Can you use a plastic form? I dont think the concrete will stick to plastic but I'm very much a novice at all of this. I actually think it looks good with the 2x4's in the concrete. I would just leave them. You could have just used one.
Plastic was used for a while, but if they are hollow, they will break.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete thank you. I enjoy concrete projects around the house but I leave the big jobs for the pro's.
You guys need to buy a burk bar I don’t strip any concrete without it, either the forms will come out whole or in pieces!
Sounds good
Slide hammer time
that may work
👍
Are we gonna see the finished product?
Yes, coming soon
The concept was good. The pour was good. The removal of the 2x4's not so good. It's a shame they chipped the concrete edge in a few places. I just hope for your sake the home owner is understanding about that. I would have tried a 69" Tamping and Digging Bar and used leverage from the ends/edges. That or explosives!
How about making a bon fire
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Or installing really hungry Termites? Or a big beam circular saw and slice one of the 2x4, the blade width might be enough to release side to side pressure. That or acid!
How about pool noodles instead of expansion foam.
Hammer drill and chisel bit
Bingo
Maybe insert backer rod in between the forms.
Good idea
Is thia a rerun?
2nd part. Last video was preparation. This one is pour and job finish work
No this is pour day
Odell? How much is a job like this?
20000
Use something like memory foam betweem the wood
Bingo