The VERY fact that Pigeon Forge knew this property was for sale 2 years prior and never said a word is down right dirty!!! We all know it takes YEARS of planning to build new roads. Why a sudden change of direction? Why didn’t the city buy the house/land when up for sale? Why not imminent domain then? Just dirty in my opinion and I will never be visiting the area again.
@@adamsilberman9377ohhh so its the buyers fault they got their home taken away like this. Are you related to the mayor. How much did they pay you to comment on here.
Wow... I can't even type what I'm really thinking right now because TH-cam will delete it. I'm homeless in an old Toyota Sienna minivan on the streets, so I'm not exactly fond of the system.
They are so much more to this story that is talked about on this little news clip. Through the fault of the realtor, they did not know they were going to put the road through their property. They spent a ton of money, renovating the property. The mayor of pigeon Forge watch this all go down literally from his front porch. Years before these people bought this property that road was going through an abandoned campground next door. It was changed because a group of people bought the abandoned campground. One of those people was the mayor’s brother. Again, it is all a big mess. The mayor was called out during a council meeting. The mayor said he had no moral obligation to tell those people to stop renovating the house because a road was going through there. The mayor lived on a hill above these people!
yeah sounds like the original owners knew what was in the winds lol and put that sucker up for sale. Got out while they still could and scammed some out of towners looking to buy a second home LMAO
I don’t understand what John Valliant thinks is funny about this deal. If it was his property I would be willing to bet that the road would be elsewhere. I also think if these people were local people it might have been different also. Just my two cents worth.
Bro was laughing because he knows how this works. There is nothing you can do ..maybe argue for more money. But after therapy made there mind up that's it. He does come off as uncaring but its not like the family has not been offered a half a million for it.
Eminent domain is how pigeon forge became a tourist attraction. 💯 My ancestors were given $400.00 to vacate their homesteads in Cades Cove so that they could let strangers drive around.
I know someone who gets $3,500 a month from power company for having their lines on his property, I know it’s terrible, you get paid for someone to use your property. 😂
@@TheMW2informer hopefully they're saving that 3500 a month because when the time comes, the payments will stop and the power company will be claiming ownership.
Had nothing to do with the mayor. The plans were were voted on for the change to avoid Taking other land, the mayor withdrew himself from voting on it because of that.
I've been following this story and Pigeon Forge did NOT pay them a red cent because of the mis-characterization of the zoning-the Race home is zoned C-6, not residential as the appraisal indicated, a big discrepancy that allows the city to give them much less value on the house, but because the Races balked at that, they've received NADA. The road went through their house because one of the men on the council owns the camp ground next to the Race's home and the city took out a family's home instead of the camp ground, simple political chicanery and favoritism. The Races spent thousands and thousands renovating that house, other than the purchase price, plus the zoning in the city's appraisal being mis-characterized as residential when it is C-6, commercial, and would have netted the city a hefty sum over time as a business, but values the home as less than it is worth in C-6. But, oh, no, the city literally stole their house. They knew they would be taking that house and watched the family renovate it, said nothing to them. They were completely kept out of the loop so that it would be a surprise and they'd not have time to fight it properly. Eminent domain is government theft. Common good is a myth. What about the family's good? It's the worst thing ever sanctioned in our government. The fat slob sitting there ignoring a family's pain is disgusting.
Here’s a few facts Mrs. Race never mentions in her social media posts; The city approved the route in November 22, 2021. The Races bought the 1047SF home for $306,000 on August 17, 2022 nine months after the route was approved. If they would’ve had a survey done, which everyone should do when buying a property, the survey would’ve clearly marked the right of way. The city offered them $490,000 for the property in October 2023. The Races counter offered with $3 million. The city then offered them $539,000, a figure that represents $514 per square foot. The Races counter offered with $1.5 million. The Races have never presented any appraisals or documentation to the court in support of their $3 million valuation or their latest valuation of $1.5 million. The city did offer to allow them to rent the house out until is was demolished however the Races never made any effort to rent it. The mortgage was paid off from funds held in escrow by the city. I’ve done appraisals in eminent domain cases and courts don’t award valuation based on what ifs. Courts award money according to the value of the property or properties like it the day it was condemned. The court is not going to award them money based on income they claim the property might make for their children and grandchildren in the future. That’s ridiculous.
@@wasidanatsali6374 My first thought was they should have taken the 500k and been done with it and used that money to find another "dream" house. Your post validates that thought. Maybe I would have a different opinion if the property would have been in the families for decades.
I agree. No one will ever own their own land. The government, the tyranny thereof, own everything. No matter how much you pay, no matter how much you work, no matter what you do... Just ask the indians
For most people an ownership in any type of property is subject to a negotiated price, few being stubborn enough to refuse a fair price. Though a long settled owner's residence in a location they are well happy with and with long developed landscaping, gardens and outbuildings (and maybe a few faithful pets buried there) and the desire to stay there forever more; then nearly any price may 'seem' too little to trade.
They want 3 million for the home. I hope they get their 500k and stay out of Tennessee, they are just plain greedy and so is the city. The entirety of Sevier is just gross from over development.
Eminent domain is used and abused by municipalities, county, state and fed governments every day. If the case is still pending in court I’m surprised the house has already been torn down.
You'd think the city and mayor (isn't he the mayor from Dukes of Hazard? He's a stereotype) would need an order forcing the property owner to accept a price before demolishing the place.
so Wait, they are offering 500,000 when the house was purchased for 320,000?. Take it from other people who have had the same fight... it never goes the way of the home owner. Agree to the money before the pull the offer back and offer less and cut your losses. The only thing that is going to happen if you don't are vast legal bills.
Yep same thing happened to a property owner in my hometown. The state was expanding a road which needed the property their old mom and pop gas station sat on. Mind you they were old and should have been retired. The state offered a million dollars and they turned it down. Welp the state took it under eminent domain and gave them market value of 125k for the property and building. So this family is fortunate that they are gonna make dang near 200k. Take the 500k pay off the loan and use the rest to put towards a new home. But they want to be greedy and try to get rich when they gonna end up with the loan paid and no extra to put towards a new house.
Been following this since day 1 on TH-cam. Eminent domain sucks. My grandparents property was taken this way. Glad they're fighting back and finally getting some media coverage.
Its not right... but they paid 300,000 and the city offered 500,000. The house is already gone. Take the money and move on. Lawsuits take time and money. Ultimately, the lawyers get 1/2. Which will put you back to the original offer YEARS LATER.
But of course neither should a community's future progress be held back by some person desiring to hold it back by spite, revenge or for an excessive profit.
My family's land was taken by eminent domain in the late 50's early 60's to build a dam. Now the dam is being taken out, do you think they let us buy it back...Hell no, even though we still own the adjacent property
@@davidliskey3553 Your family was paid at the fair market value and have no claim to the property now, anymore than you claiming that you still have rights to a car you sold in the past.
@@fivespeed3026 but they never wanted to sell it, and they only took what they wanted, leaving our family all the steep brushlands around it to pay taxes on, now that it is no longer used in any public service it would be nice to be able to buy it back so the property actually has some use
What Tyranny??? Seriously, this is a much needed road for safety and the benefit of those that actually live in this community. Doesn't the local community have rights?
It sucks but at the same time these people have only owned that house for what a month? They paid 300 grand for it and were offered half a mill. Take your money and run.
These people in pigeon forge gatlinburg only care about money. There is a place in gatlinburg pretend they care for vets by give a free drink. If you knew how they really treated vets when they think nobody is looking. You be very suprised. The place is ate up with overpriced food. The crowds are unbearable. Traffic is a huge mess. Drug shops everywhere .Moonshine everywhere. Its start to be a place you dont want to take your family. People should start looking at other options. Greedy cabin rentals try to charge 300-400 a night. Including dollys hotels. For a 300 a night. Greed
Hubby and I went to Pidgeon Forge, it was so built up and crowded we changed plans and went to Cumberland Gap area in Tennessee. Best decision we could have made.
That’s why it’s best for Libs to just stay in the states that they are in and deal with what they voted for instead of moving to the south and ruining the south too.
Yes, eminent domain is a very difficult and controversial issue. But remember, the land was not “taken,” insinuating they got nothing. They purchased the property for $306k a few years ago as a vacation home/investment property. The municipality offered $500k, which sounds appropriate for the amount of insane inflation (an entirely separate conversation), and the owner refused. This sounds to me like sheer greed under the guise of “the government is taking our family land.” What a joke. They’ve only owned it a few years!
Thank you! They countered the $500,00 with 3 Million. Totally ridiculous for a second house which is an investment property. They won't get more money.
@@lisadaisey1464Probably added the revenue they thought they would get from the house. I understand they put time and effort in the house but I just can’t think it’s the same as losing a house/ property that’s been in your family for years. They’re not having to move and uproot their whole lives because it’s not their main house. Can’t fight the eminent domain unfortunately, it’s been around for years, just look back on how many lost when TVA came in and Oak Ridge. I know a lot of good things happened but many people and families were destroyed because they were never able to overcome losing their farms, houses, businesses and communities. The government has the time, money and courts. They’re making themselves miserable and I’m sure the time and effort they’re putting into this is also costing plenty of money. It sucks to be screwed over by the government but you definitely let them win if you’re letting it dominate your life and drive you crazy!
If the parties cannot agree on compensation, the municipality can put its last offer in escrow. It can then take the property in question, leaving the former owner to either take the money offered or take the case to court to get more compensation. Years ago, I actually saw an auction where the buyer begged the former owner to let him move the house to the back of the lot so he could still live there. The man refused, so the buyer took the house apart and reassembled it elsewhere. That lot is still vacant.
No they will give them the last offer but now they think they should get 3 Million for there $300,000 property & suing. They won't get anymore money & they will spend more on legal fees. They could had payed the mortgage off & had money in there pocket to find something else. Facts are they were in negotiations since March 2023. They approved the road 3 months before they bought the property. The sellers probably knew & the realtor should have made them aware. It sucks but it also help the people who live here full time. Most of us can't get to work to serve the tourists because roads are backed up. This road will help.
@lisadaisey1464 They are relying on emotionally manipulative posts to sway the public opinion. But it's going to the jury to decide now. I doubt the jury will award them the millions they think they deserve when the facts are presented. Greedy out of town investors hoping the residents are too dumb to realize the money comes out of their pockets. And they own another investment property in Outer Banks.
@@lisadaisey1464your very naive of you think that road will help us locals more,they will immediately build up every inch of it and it will be bumper to bumper too
I completely understand what this family is going thru, however, it's not like a home that's been in the family for generations. They bought it in 2022. They're also being offered almost a half million dollars for it which is more than what they paid for it.
Seriously, they would have profited 200k less the renovation costs, but they're just trying to squeeze the town now for more money like the mayors brother was doing with the campground... oh you want THIS Land for a project, how about $1M per acre you need sounds like the town isn't budging, they should have taken the 500k and ran since it was an "investment" property they JUST bought anyway
@@deanosborn3464 To be fair though, anyone would rightly be upset if they bought a property expecting to keep it for generations and suddenly its taken away. They should've been made aware of the road plan prior to buying the house. They have every right to challenge it in court for more than what the city offered for it.
$500k when they paid $360k is a good deal that's $140k profit. It sucks but now you have even more money to buy an even nicer house. Stop acting entitled and take the win.
This is more about greed than eminent domain... These folks paid $306k and 2 years later refused to take $539k... an 85% profit in 2 years. These Ohio folks demanded 3 million bucks, have reduced the demand to 1.5 million.... sorry about a road going through a place you bought as a rental 2vyears ago, but greed is not a good look. Take the $539k / 85% profit.
They need to shut up and take the money! They barely had the house for a few months and stand to make a sizeable profit from the city's payment for that house! They really have no leg to stand on! But noooo, they want to squander money on an attorney fighting back, and are going to end up in the hole when their case is dismissed!
I think the property is actually zoned for commercial which makes it more valuable than just residential, that is the sticking point from what I understand
$140,000 profit in less than 2 years. They bought the property as an investment property not a family heirloom. Should have took the profit and bought something equally nice on the other side of the valley. If they had bought the home for "grandma" to live in then sympathy is due. However they bought it for passive income and now their stubbornness will cost them.
The city has offered them just shy of $200,000 dollars more than they paid for the house 2 yrs ago and they don't think that is fair? I get they had plans but seriously they only had the house for 2 years and the city is offering avery fair price. They can go find another home to have in the family for generations.
This family admitted in an early video that they bought the property to fix up and sell. Now they are acting like they are going to be homeless. Please! This is ridiculous!
They agreed to accept 490K for it. The city didn’t just “take” it without paying. It was agreed to in advance. I looked up the document myself. The owners are idiots to cry for more if they owe on the mortgage for it. It is way more than they paid for it less than a year before. They create their own problems. I don’t feel one bit sorry for them living way beyond their means.
They are just greedy and holding out for more money. Their house is gone. It can’t come back. They would just take the money unless they wanted to try to sue for more and more money. They can’t sue for the home back. It’s a money grab. They bought that house to air b&b. If it was their primary home I’d feel for them. She even had her daughter sit for the camera and not say anything. What was the purpose of that if not to play the victim card.
$500,000 was a fair offer. Makes you just want to stay up North right? If you and your friends stay home in Ohio then we won't need more roads thru peoples houses. You could be saving somebody else from this.
I was paid $750k for 3/4 of an acre on the front part of my property so the state could expand the highway from 2 lane to 4 lane. Seeing how Pigeon Forge took this persons house and land they should have been offered triple what the homeowners paid so they can have the available funds to buy another home/property.
Don’t y’all just love how the state and government entities feel they are entitled to take homes and our hard earned money! Time to make our government/states responsible!
They were offered $539,000 for a crappy little cabin they paid $306,000 for in 2022. They counter offered with $3 million. 10X the price they paid two years ago. It seems like the Race family are the ones who feel entitled to an extraordinary settlement.
The family was offered 500K for a home they bought 2 years ago for 300K, they want 3 Mil. Greed is everywhere these days. You can't take any of your wealth with you when you go. I pray daily for a societal collapse so that folks can get back to what's really important and not the prideful effects that wealth falsely gives them.
Good you don't have to. It's crazy everyone thinks they know what is happening where you don't even live. Just because these people say one thing doesn't mean it's true!
@@lisadaisey1464 Well I do since I live here and I am sick of these shanty irish decendants ripping off people from the North. They are mountain hillbillies.
They didn't "take their home," they paid them half a million to buy a second house in a completely different state. Just take the money and run, most people would be beyond happy to have half a million AND a single house.
They actually haven't paid them anything, and they lived in ohio to begin with. The 500k appraisal was for a residential property. It's zoned as a commercial property.
@@amandaengland2 I try to ask and this: "Road building for the future is important! Our tax dollars at work for our prosperity, our benefit and our safety! But their are those that see things differently: They lack all credibility when they delete any video or comment that doesn't support them,...go to TH-cam and make a comment, ask a question your posts get deleted! Personally I think this is some kind of extortion or blackmail scam. Using TH-cam, anyone know of anyone else that has tried this? Could this be a first for TH-cam, trying to manipulate public sentiment to make a lot of cash? TH-cam Pigeon forge eminent domain Tell me what you think,...cons or just some kind of manipulation?" They refuse to answer and or just delete everyone's posts that don't align with their agenda.
So the city is offering them $200K more than what they paid for the house 2 years ago.... Sounds like the family is just greedy and wants more money. There's no way that crappy house was worth the $520K in compensation the city offered them.
I think it was a strategic mistake for the property owner to say they might rent the property when they weren't using it themself - that surely implies a commercial intention and hence as an investment property making the eminent domain acquisition appear more acceptable (of course with the house itself leveled it's not easy to go back). And that crude map shown sure puts the property smack dab in the new roadway's path (so a defense saying it's arbitrary doesn't seem helpful to negotiations).
Totally unsolicited opinion on how this is going to end. They were offered, after negotiations, fair market value which in my opinion would cover the purchase price, renovations, and increase in value over the short timespan of their ownership. Their train went off the tracks when they turned down the fair market offer and demanded millions. That is greed and is just as disgusting and wrong as eminent domain. It doesn't matter what was disclosed by the previous owner who may not, and probably didn't know there was a road planned through the property. As such, they could not disclose it, these things happen. The shadiness of the whole mayor, campground owner, good ol' boy thang goin on notwithstanding, they just don't have a legal leg to stand on. They will sue the city, they will spend FAR more in legal fees than they would have made on the house had they taken the negotiated offer of over half a million for that shack, and they will lose. This lady claims to be a christian and as such should pray about her motives and have God search her heart so that SHE does the right thing. It's hard, but that is just. You can't fight city hall especially in one filled with nepotism.
I had wondered that too. If the city already knew it was part of the eminent domain plan, why didn't they buy it for $300,000 from the original owner instead of offering $500k to these Ohio people?
If they paid 306 for it and were offered 490, I don't understand how people are saying "They weren't even offered enough to pay it off." And people keep thinking these folks are homeless now. They don't even live here. They live in OH.
@jaznjen9876 it was an older home. They completely renovated it inside and out. All the permits the city let them pull for renovations and never said a peep about the upcoming seizure. At $500,000 they would still be financially in the hole. The road could have gone around the house. It didn't need to go through it.
I don't believe they will win this one. If it was a Walmart going in, they would have a good fight. Reducing traffic issues for the general public is within the spirit of what eminent domain was meant for. Now if the general public rallied around this family, the city may back down.
Either the plan wasn't disclosed before purchase or it was. If it was, then the buyers are getting a quick >$100k profit. Roads are among the few things eminent domain can be legally used for.
@@CreekSide1779 Pigeon Forge did pay,....they want more, 3 million they asked for. This is all public record and published in many news papers and on the Towns web site. She is the one who refused to cash a check, that was over 200,000 over the sale and appraised prices,...the Town was more than compensating her for her "troubles" IN FACT IF YOU WERE TO GO AND PURCHASE PROPERTIES THAT WERE BEING SUBJECT TO EMINENT DOMAIN,...YOU COULD MAKE A TIDY PROFIT JUST BECAUSE MOST CITIES AND TOWNS PAY MORE THAN THE PROPERTIES ARE WORTH,..?????????? MAKES ME WONDER??????
All the memories they could have made in the house are priceless! They could have made a couple hundred thousand profit on a property they bought two years ago and they didn't take it?
@@jannibal9273 Title insurance is to provide remedy. Its highly likely the company would defer the lender to petition the court for access to the money that the city has put into escrow as the only logical remedy.
These people are acting like this home has been in their family history for decades and has historical significance. Take the 500k and go away. We looked at property there as well as NC and did due diligence on future road construction in the area. Land was cheap and there was a reason. A road was about to split the land in two.
Just take the half a million and move on! It’s a $300,000 house. I say that’s a nice profit.Dont try to make it a bigger payday. There are many beautiful houses out there. Buy another.
$306,000 second home. No different than folks from up north owning property in Florida. It is their right to own more than one home in another region. What we have not heard yet is what the city offer was for the property that was turned down by the family. That is where the real issue more than likely rests.
They paid $300.000+ for the property, nothing was paid to them cuz they turned down the $500.000 offer from the city just to fight it in court. They purchased it as an investment property to rent out when they weren’t using it but she says it wasn’t monetary?
@@raymonddavis483we used to have chickens and our neighbors let their dogs run onto our property and the dogs killed four of our chickens on our property. When we told him what had happened he said well I’ll pay to replace them…..I never gave him a number. Because I could not figure out a monetary value to all the work I put in raising them as chicks and waiting for them to start laying. Could I have pushed adult hens and tried to somehow get them integrated into an already tight knit flock? Yeah, but the fact that that’s even more work. Honestly, I would have had to have a lot more than he wanted to pay to feel like it even came close to the inconvenience and the time spent getting my hens to what they were when they died. If you’re gunna steal someone’s property and they spent 6-7 months renovating it themselves knowing they were going to make decades of income, you better pay to compensate appropriately
@@christinah9954 That road project has been going on for 4 years if they didn't know this was going to happen or that it could happen then their realtor failed them. No surprise up here though. They were offered 200K above what they paid 2 years ago and they refused because they want 3 mil. No eff them.
@@b19jrm They could have gotten a lot more than 1.5 million because the property is worth a lot in future development or rent. That's the same reason the mayor's brother wanted the road moved from the original plans , so they could make money from the land they own beside these people. Original plan was a straight line through the empty campground the mayor's brother owns.
The property was zoned for commercial and the city offered an appraisal on residential. The family had way more spent on this property than 500k. The Race family had RV lots complete with hookups installed on the lot as well.
Well I didn't realize people were selling land for what it would be worth in the future. No wonder land is so high now. That must be why everything is getting so expensive it's being sold for what it will be worth in the future. Learn something new everyday.
The city had it appraised incorrectly so it was worth less. They are definitely going to loose in court, I guarantee it. It’s not hard to prove zoning, that’s part of public record.
Guarantee: the seller sold the property _because_ they knew about the plans for the road. Caveat emptor. You can go to the city and find out if there are future plans for that property and its neighborhood. Or if it's sitting on top of a worked out mine vein or toxic waste dump. You should always do that.
So this has been in planning for many years did she look into the property before she bought it projects like this took years to plan usually 7 to 10 years which means they knew that it was going to be part of said project . The seller more then likely knew this would happen so they sold the land . And because she didn't do her do diligence and look into the property first she takes the loss . Next time make sure you look into everything in the area going on otherwise you have no right to complain about it because you failed yourself . Not long ago the same issue happened in Kingsport Tn due to a expansion of a main road courts ruled then that it was the purchasers responsibility to look into the area they choose to buy in especially future city projects for this exact reason . They want to move to the area or buy property in the area then complain when changes to accommodate more of them have to happen it's hilarious
Then you'd be complaining how the gov is waisting/spending your tax dollars. They paid just over $300,000 and was offered $500,000. Personal I think they were scammed. That new road took years of planning. The original property own knew about it and did a quick sell thinking they'd get more money than what the state would offer.
Those people are ridiculous..they think they are privileged..They have no family ties of heritage to it so stop crying..if they have enough money to buy a second home consider themselves fortunate..It's not like they were living there.
I am so sick of the rentals in this area it is overgrown and bloated. To much development and this beautiful town is just gross now. The family was offered 500K for a home they bought 2 years ago for 300K and they want 3 mil. Effin greed.
@@CreekSide1779 Knox is ruined, Maryville is ruined, PF and Gatlinburg are ruined and Vonore will soon be ruined. It used to be so beautiful here like you said. Now, the scars will never heal. It’s too late for our once beautiful area.
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The VERY fact that Pigeon Forge knew this property was for sale 2 years prior and never said a word is down right dirty!!! We all know it takes YEARS of planning to build new roads. Why a sudden change of direction? Why didn’t the city buy the house/land when up for sale? Why not imminent domain then? Just dirty in my opinion and I will never be visiting the area again.
Because the mayor's brother, from what I've read,has part interest in the campground that was bought, where the road was originally supposed to go.
It's the government. You don't expect them to be honest!
The buyer needed to His due diligence which he didnt
@@adamsilberman9377ohhh so its the buyers fault they got their home taken away like this. Are you related to the mayor. How much did they pay you to comment on here.
@@adamsilberman9377 your ignorance is astounding
The Mayor of Pigeon Forge has people blocked from commenting on his social media pages too! Also, the mayor owns adjacent property to the Race family.
The only right thing to do is sue the mayor for his property.
Wow... I can't even type what I'm really thinking right now because TH-cam will delete it. I'm homeless in an old Toyota Sienna minivan on the streets, so I'm not exactly fond of the system.
@@Network126lol
Removing comments or the ability to comment is a Constitutional violation called prior restraint.
Biden did that too
They are so much more to this story that is talked about on this little news clip. Through the fault of the realtor, they did not know they were going to put the road through their property. They spent a ton of money, renovating the property. The mayor of pigeon Forge watch this all go down literally from his front porch. Years before these people bought this property that road was going through an abandoned campground next door. It was changed because a group of people bought the abandoned campground. One of those people was the mayor’s brother. Again, it is all a big mess. The mayor was called out during a council meeting. The mayor said he had no moral obligation to tell those people to stop renovating the house because a road was going through there. The mayor lived on a hill above these people!
They should have excepted the money
@@darlene4232”accepted”
@@darlene4232they intentionally appraised it incorrectly so the city could forcible take their home AND pay them less while doing it
The mayor should be voted out of office he knew what was happening
yeah sounds like the original owners knew what was in the winds lol and put that sucker up for sale. Got out while they still could and scammed some out of towners looking to buy a second home LMAO
That mayor is a gross specimen.
typical tennessee hick though
@@FordRangerClassics the laughing says it all
@@brendamoon2660 The mayor isn't in this video...... That was an attorney the news channel asked to explain eminent domain.
Corrupt and EVIL looking
Based on 3 seconds of edited video? Wow.
I don’t understand what John Valliant thinks is funny about this deal. If it was his property I would be willing to bet that the road would be elsewhere. I also think if these people were local people it might have been different also. Just my two cents worth.
Yeah seemed like he was really enjoying himself....
What a rude man. Laughing about someone house being demolished.
He was laughing at his own joke.
Bro was laughing because he knows how this works.
There is nothing you can do ..maybe argue for more money.
But after therapy made there mind up that's it.
He does come off as uncaring but its not like the family has not been offered a half a million for it.
People should get him removed raise Caine because this is so wrong!! His a piece of Crap
Eminent domain is theft. Should be illegal.
Eminent domain is how pigeon forge became a tourist attraction. 💯 My ancestors were given $400.00 to vacate their homesteads in Cades Cove so that they could let strangers drive around.
I know someone who gets $3,500 a month from power company for having their lines on his property, I know it’s terrible, you get paid for someone to use your property. 😂
@@TheMW2informer hopefully they're saving that 3500 a month because when the time comes, the payments will stop and the power company will be claiming ownership.
It is NOT theft. This is a lesson in NOT doing your due diligence as a buyer.
@@jannibal9273 This is 100% theft by the government.
didnt the road get redesigned when the mayors family member decided to build a campground in the same area thats why this house got destroyed
Had nothing to do with the mayor. The plans were were voted on for the change to avoid Taking other land, the mayor withdrew himself from voting on it because of that.
@@MISCHIEFMAKER-v4i if you belive that i got a bridge to sell you
I've been following this story and Pigeon Forge did NOT pay them a red cent because of the mis-characterization of the zoning-the Race home is zoned C-6, not residential as the appraisal indicated, a big discrepancy that allows the city to give them much less value on the house, but because the Races balked at that, they've received NADA. The road went through their house because one of the men on the council owns the camp ground next to the Race's home and the city took out a family's home instead of the camp ground, simple political chicanery and favoritism. The Races spent thousands and thousands renovating that house, other than the purchase price, plus the zoning in the city's appraisal being mis-characterized as residential when it is C-6, commercial, and would have netted the city a hefty sum over time as a business, but values the home as less than it is worth in C-6. But, oh, no, the city literally stole their house. They knew they would be taking that house and watched the family renovate it, said nothing to them. They were completely kept out of the loop so that it would be a surprise and they'd not have time to fight it properly. Eminent domain is government theft. Common good is a myth. What about the family's good? It's the worst thing ever sanctioned in our government. The fat slob sitting there ignoring a family's pain is disgusting.
It was cheaper to buy a single house than a campground
Here’s a few facts Mrs. Race never mentions in her social media posts;
The city approved the route in November 22, 2021. The Races bought the 1047SF home for $306,000 on August 17, 2022 nine months after the route was approved. If they would’ve had a survey done, which everyone should do when buying a property, the survey would’ve clearly marked the right of way. The city offered them $490,000 for the property in October 2023. The Races counter offered with $3 million. The city then offered them $539,000, a figure that represents $514 per square foot. The Races counter offered with $1.5 million. The Races have never presented any appraisals or documentation to the court in support of their $3 million valuation or their latest valuation of $1.5 million. The city did offer to allow them to rent the house out until is was demolished however the Races never made any effort to rent it. The mortgage was paid off from funds held in escrow by the city.
I’ve done appraisals in eminent domain cases and courts don’t award valuation based on what ifs. Courts award money according to the value of the property or properties like it the day it was condemned. The court is not going to award them money based on income they claim the property might make for their children and grandchildren in the future. That’s ridiculous.
@@wasidanatsali6374 My first thought was they should have taken the 500k and been done with it and used that money to find another "dream" house. Your post validates that thought. Maybe I would have a different opinion if the property would have been in the families for decades.
@@adamsilberman9377maybe? Maybe not?
They were offered $200 k over what it's worth but they want 3 million. Just because they are online telling there side don't make it the truth.
Anyone who thinks they actually own their land in America is just silly.
I agree. No one will ever own their own land. The government, the tyranny thereof, own everything. No matter how much you pay, no matter how much you work, no matter what you do... Just ask the indians
I said this same thing to the woman this story is about! She has a TH-cam channel BTW
You are right if we don't pay property taxes that when you find out who owns the property.
Just ask the indigenous people!!!
For most people an ownership in any type of property is subject to a negotiated price, few being stubborn enough to refuse a fair price. Though a long settled owner's residence in a location they are well happy with and with long developed landscaping, gardens and outbuildings (and maybe a few faithful pets buried there) and the desire to stay there forever more; then nearly any price may 'seem' too little to trade.
These people were deliberately lied to and misled, and this guy is smiling??? I hope this family sues and wins BIG time.
They want 3 million for the home. I hope they get their 500k and stay out of Tennessee, they are just plain greedy and so is the city. The entirety of Sevier is just gross from over development.
The smiling guy has nothing to do with this case. He was just giving information.
😂😂😂
@@CreekSide1779exactly right, greed from both sides
Not for monetary? 2nd house, to be rented out? BS.
And he laughs.
He’s a demon.
Eminent domain is used and abused by municipalities, county, state and fed governments every day. If the case is still pending in court I’m surprised the house has already been torn down.
That is how dirty this deal is.
Small town politics is ruthless.
Welcome to Murika.
You'd think the city and mayor (isn't he the mayor from Dukes of Hazard? He's a stereotype) would need an order forcing the property owner to accept a price before demolishing the place.
so Wait, they are offering 500,000 when the house was purchased for 320,000?. Take it from other people who have had the same fight... it never goes the way of the home owner. Agree to the money before the pull the offer back and offer less and cut your losses. The only thing that is going to happen if you don't are vast legal bills.
Yep same thing happened to a property owner in my hometown. The state was expanding a road which needed the property their old mom and pop gas station sat on. Mind you they were old and should have been retired. The state offered a million dollars and they turned it down. Welp the state took it under eminent domain and gave them market value of 125k for the property and building. So this family is fortunate that they are gonna make dang near 200k. Take the 500k pay off the loan and use the rest to put towards a new home. But they want to be greedy and try to get rich when they gonna end up with the loan paid and no extra to put towards a new house.
Been following this since day 1 on TH-cam. Eminent domain sucks. My grandparents property was taken this way. Glad they're fighting back and finally getting some media coverage.
Cant fight back. Theyre just looking for a bigger pay day
Its not right... but they paid 300,000 and the city offered 500,000. The house is already gone. Take the money and move on. Lawsuits take time and money. Ultimately, the lawyers get 1/2. Which will put you back to the original offer YEARS LATER.
Eminent domain is a complete scam period!!!!!! on so many many levels its pathetic!!!
But of course neither should a community's future progress be held back by some person desiring to hold it back by spite, revenge or for an excessive profit.
My family's land was taken by eminent domain in the late 50's early 60's to build a dam. Now the dam is being taken out, do you think they let us buy it back...Hell no, even though we still own the adjacent property
@@davidliskey3553 Your family was paid at the fair market value and have no claim to the property now, anymore than you claiming that you still have rights to a car you sold in the past.
@@fivespeed3026 but they never wanted to sell it, and they only took what they wanted, leaving our family all the steep brushlands around it to pay taxes on, now that it is no longer used in any public service it would be nice to be able to buy it back so the property actually has some use
@fivespeed3026 governments only pay fair market value when forced by a court, otherwise they will low ball you every time
I get the whole “ they were screwed by the mayor and City “
But? They were offered a good amount! I would have took it and ran!!!!😂
I would have just jogged. I did the whole running thing for about 20 years!
Our men only care about money. No wonder we're enslaved.
The tyranny is neverending.
Yes, I'm sure all those people in Pidgeon Forge are dedicated Republicans.
What Tyranny??? Seriously, this is a much needed road for safety and the benefit of those that actually live in this community.
Doesn't the local community have rights?
It sucks but at the same time these people have only owned that house for what a month? They paid 300 grand for it and were offered half a mill. Take your money and run.
Learn the facts then post.
These people in pigeon forge gatlinburg only care about money. There is a place in gatlinburg pretend they care for vets by give a free drink. If you knew how they really treated vets when they think nobody is looking. You be very suprised. The place is ate up with overpriced food. The crowds are unbearable. Traffic is a huge mess. Drug shops everywhere .Moonshine everywhere. Its start to be a place you dont want to take your family. People should start looking at other options. Greedy cabin rentals try to charge 300-400 a night. Including dollys hotels. For a 300 a night. Greed
Thanks a lot, Biden
The greedy family wants $3 million for a cabin they paid $306,000 for in 2022. 🤣🤣🤣
Hubby and I went to Pidgeon Forge, it was so built up and crowded we changed plans and went to Cumberland Gap area in Tennessee. Best decision we could have made.
That’s why it’s best for Libs to just stay in the states that they are in and deal with what they voted for instead of moving to the south and ruining the south too.
The crowds and traffic are why they want to build that road.
Yes, eminent domain is a very difficult and controversial issue. But remember, the land was not “taken,” insinuating they got nothing. They purchased the property for $306k a few years ago as a vacation home/investment property. The municipality offered $500k, which sounds appropriate for the amount of insane inflation (an entirely separate conversation), and the owner refused. This sounds to me like sheer greed under the guise of “the government is taking our family land.” What a joke. They’ve only owned it a few years!
Thank you! They countered the $500,00 with 3 Million. Totally ridiculous for a second house which is an investment property. They won't get more money.
@@lisadaisey1464Probably added the revenue they thought they would get from the house. I understand they put time and effort in the house but I just can’t think it’s the same as losing a house/ property that’s been in your family for years. They’re not having to move and uproot their whole lives because it’s not their main house. Can’t fight the eminent domain unfortunately, it’s been around for years, just look back on how many lost when TVA came in and Oak Ridge. I know a lot of good things happened but many people and families were destroyed because they were never able to overcome losing their farms, houses, businesses and communities. The government has the time, money and courts. They’re making themselves miserable and I’m sure the time and effort they’re putting into this is also costing plenty of money.
It sucks to be screwed over by the government but you definitely let them win if you’re letting it dominate your life and drive you crazy!
How can the city demolish the home if no offer was accepted? Isn't that illegal because they don't own the property yet?
If the parties cannot agree on compensation, the municipality can put its last offer in escrow. It can then take the property in question, leaving the former owner to either take the money offered or take the case to court to get more compensation. Years ago, I actually saw an auction where the buyer begged the former owner to let him move the house to the back of the lot so he could still live there. The man refused, so the buyer took the house apart and reassembled it elsewhere. That lot is still vacant.
No they will give them the last offer but now they think they should get 3 Million for there $300,000 property & suing. They won't get anymore money & they will spend more on legal fees. They could had payed the mortgage off & had money in there pocket to find something else. Facts are they were in negotiations since March 2023. They approved the road 3 months before they bought the property. The sellers probably knew & the realtor should have made them aware. It sucks but it also help the people who live here full time. Most of us can't get to work to serve the tourists because roads are backed up. This road will help.
@lisadaisey1464
They are relying on emotionally manipulative posts to sway the public opinion. But it's going to the jury to decide now. I doubt the jury will award them the millions they think they deserve when the facts are presented. Greedy out of town investors hoping the residents are too dumb to realize the money comes out of their pockets.
And they own another investment property in Outer Banks.
@@lisadaisey1464 You support the stealing of property because it will make your drive easier?! Go to hell you fricken clown.
@@lisadaisey1464your very naive of you think that road will help us locals more,they will immediately build up every inch of it and it will be bumper to bumper too
Take the half million before you end up with nothing 😢
They want 3 mil. Seriously take the 500K and stay out of Tennessee we don't need liberals here to eff up our way of life.
I completely understand what this family is going thru, however, it's not like a home that's been in the family for generations. They bought it in 2022. They're also being offered almost a half million dollars for it which is more than what they paid for it.
Seriously, they would have profited 200k less the renovation costs, but they're just trying to squeeze the town now for more money like the mayors brother was doing with the campground... oh you want THIS Land for a project, how about $1M per acre you need
sounds like the town isn't budging, they should have taken the 500k and ran since it was an "investment" property they JUST bought anyway
@@deanosborn3464 To be fair though, anyone would rightly be upset if they bought a property expecting to keep it for generations and suddenly its taken away. They should've been made aware of the road plan prior to buying the house. They have every right to challenge it in court for more than what the city offered for it.
Can't be greedy .just take the 500 g and move on
Eminent domain should pay you twice of what your property is worth to ease some of the burden caused by them.
$500k when they paid $360k is a good deal that's $140k profit. It sucks but now you have even more money to buy an even nicer house. Stop acting entitled and take the win.
If that wasn’t disclosed before closing - SUE THE SELLERS!
And the realtors, along with title agency. The fact is they peopbably all know eachother and have no issue screwing an outsider
This is more about greed than eminent domain... These folks paid $306k and 2 years later refused to take $539k... an 85% profit in 2 years. These Ohio folks demanded 3 million bucks, have reduced the demand to 1.5 million.... sorry about a road going through a place you bought as a rental 2vyears ago, but greed is not a good look. Take the $539k / 85% profit.
500k for the 300k property. the former owners dont have a leg to stand on.
They need to shut up and take the money! They barely had the house for a few months and stand to make a sizeable profit from the city's payment for that house! They really have no leg to stand on! But noooo, they want to squander money on an attorney fighting back, and are going to end up in the hole when their case is dismissed!
A rental of that size probably Nets $20k a year in rental. I would have ran with that $500k and bought better property!
Actually, 500,000 dollars is more than fair for a house they bought for 306,000 2 years prior.
Depends on what improvements that were done to the house.
I think the property is actually zoned for commercial which makes it more valuable than just residential, that is the sticking point from what I understand
$140,000 profit in less than 2 years. They bought the property as an investment property not a family heirloom. Should have took the profit and bought something equally nice on the other side of the valley.
If they had bought the home for "grandma" to live in then sympathy is due. However they bought it for passive income and now their stubbornness will cost them.
They did say the house was remodeled at a tune of 80,000 on top of that
They offered her nearly 1/2 million for this house. Way more than it is valued at.
The city has offered them just shy of $200,000 dollars more than they paid for the house 2 yrs ago and they don't think that is fair? I get they had plans but seriously they only had the house for 2 years and the city is offering avery fair price. They can go find another home to have in the family for generations.
306 thousand vs 500 thousand. I'd take the money and run. Crazy money for a 2 bed house
Probably? Sounds too close to town anyhow? Matters how many acres?
It's a commercial property.The 500k is the appraisal for a residential property
This family admitted in an early video that they bought the property to fix up and sell. Now they are acting like they are going to be homeless. Please! This is ridiculous!
When greed meets greed.
Whatcha wanna bet the person they bought it from knew what was coming and dumped it on them
They agreed to accept 490K for it. The city didn’t just “take” it without paying. It was agreed to in advance. I looked up the document myself. The owners are idiots to cry for more if they owe on the mortgage for it. It is way more than they paid for it less than a year before. They create their own problems. I don’t feel one bit sorry for them living way beyond their means.
I’m fine with them staying in Ohio
They are just greedy and holding out for more money. Their house is gone. It can’t come back. They would just take the money unless they wanted to try to sue for more and more money. They can’t sue for the home back. It’s a money grab. They bought that house to air b&b. If it was their primary home I’d feel for them. She even had her daughter sit for the camera and not say anything. What was the purpose of that if not to play the victim card.
They should've taken the deal, they would have made extra money on it & could buy a better "second" home 🤷♀️ this kind of thing happens all the time.
$500,000 was a fair offer. Makes you just want to stay up North right? If you and your friends stay home in Ohio then we won't need more roads thru peoples houses. You could be saving somebody else from this.
I was paid $750k for 3/4 of an acre on the front part of my property so the state could expand the highway from 2 lane to 4 lane. Seeing how Pigeon Forge took this persons house and land they should have been offered triple what the homeowners paid so they can have the available funds to buy another home/property.
Don’t y’all just love how the state and government entities feel they are entitled to take homes and our hard earned money! Time to make our government/states responsible!
Right? And well the left wants to do is give the government MORE power. It’s ridiculous
The city wasn’t going to take the land for free.
They were offered $539,000 for a crappy little cabin they paid $306,000 for in 2022. They counter offered with $3 million. 10X the price they paid two years ago. It seems like the Race family are the ones who feel entitled to an extraordinary settlement.
The family was offered 500K for a home they bought 2 years ago for 300K, they want 3 Mil. Greed is everywhere these days. You can't take any of your wealth with you when you go. I pray daily for a societal collapse so that folks can get back to what's really important and not the prideful effects that wealth falsely gives them.
The city could have purchased the land two years ago and this would not be a problem.
I hope they get Justice...I will never go back to Pidgeon Forge...Evil Mayor and evil Judges...
Good you don't have to. It's crazy everyone thinks they know what is happening where you don't even live. Just because these people say one thing doesn't mean it's true!
@@lisadaisey1464 Well I do since I live here and I am sick of these shanty irish decendants ripping off people from the North. They are mountain hillbillies.
You have freedoms until you don't - George Carlin
You have "temporary privileges" he said.
@@EattheApple666 Arnold got it right when he said screw your freedoms
Why didn't the city but it when it went up for sale if they only had it for a few months?
They didn't "take their home," they paid them half a million to buy a second house in a completely different state. Just take the money and run, most people would be beyond happy to have half a million AND a single house.
exactly. buy a property for 306k then get 490k a couple years later.... that's a nice profit paid for by tax payer money....
@@rebeccalynn7795sweetie, they renovated the house, they’ve spent more than 500.
No comprende?
@@bunjijumper5345 well bless your little heart... receipts for that cost? yes maybe $500 but not $500,000 lol.
They actually haven't paid them anything, and they lived in ohio to begin with. The 500k appraisal was for a residential property. It's zoned as a commercial property.
@@amandaengland2 I try to ask and this:
"Road building for the future is important! Our tax dollars at work for our prosperity, our benefit and our safety!
But their are those that see things differently:
They lack all credibility when they delete any video or comment that doesn't support them,...go to TH-cam and make a comment, ask a question your posts get deleted!
Personally I think this is some kind of extortion or blackmail scam. Using TH-cam, anyone know of anyone else that has tried this?
Could this be a first for TH-cam, trying to manipulate public sentiment to make a lot of cash?
TH-cam Pigeon forge eminent domain
Tell me what you think,...cons or just some kind of manipulation?"
They refuse to answer and or just delete everyone's posts that don't align with their agenda.
this family bought it to make a rental.......displacing local residents.......they are not the victim
This is working out great. Less Ohio people here in East TN 😆 love it
But what about the Californians though? 😢
They'll come for your houses next 😂😂😂😂 are you joking ?? Or just slow?
So the city is offering them $200K more than what they paid for the house 2 years ago.... Sounds like the family is just greedy and wants more money. There's no way that crappy house was worth the $520K in compensation the city offered them.
Oh an investment property. Meh I don't feel bad for them
Why is the road needed? Because of all the people buying up properties in the area and contributing to the congestion.
That's more than fair value. Stop being pains about it.
I think it was a strategic mistake for the property owner to say they might rent the property when they weren't using it themself - that surely implies a commercial intention and hence as an investment property making the eminent domain acquisition appear more acceptable (of course with the house itself leveled it's not easy to go back). And that crude map shown sure puts the property smack dab in the new roadway's path (so a defense saying it's arbitrary doesn't seem helpful to negotiations).
Corruption everywhere.
Totally unsolicited opinion on how this is going to end. They were offered, after negotiations, fair market value which in my opinion would cover the purchase price, renovations, and increase in value over the short timespan of their ownership. Their train went off the tracks when they turned down the fair market offer and demanded millions.
That is greed and is just as disgusting and wrong as eminent domain. It doesn't matter what was disclosed by the previous owner who may not, and probably didn't know there was a road planned through the property. As such, they could not disclose it, these things happen. The shadiness of the whole mayor, campground owner, good ol' boy thang goin on notwithstanding, they just don't have a legal leg to stand on.
They will sue the city, they will spend FAR more in legal fees than they would have made on the house had they taken the negotiated offer of over half a million for that shack, and they will lose.
This lady claims to be a christian and as such should pray about her motives and have God search her heart so that SHE does the right thing. It's hard, but that is just. You can't fight city hall especially in one filled with nepotism.
Eminent domain needs to be illegal.
Why didn't they buy the house when up for sale.
I had wondered that too. If the city already knew it was part of the eminent domain plan, why didn't they buy it for $300,000 from the original owner instead of offering $500k to these Ohio people?
They paid $300G for the property and the city offers half a mill? Jezus, take the money and run
It's also a 2nd house/investment property.. I don't think they're going to be hurting too much lol
If they paid 306 for it and were offered 490, I don't understand how people are saying "They weren't even offered enough to pay it off." And people keep thinking these folks are homeless now. They don't even live here. They live in OH.
@jaznjen9876 it was an older home. They completely renovated it inside and out. All the permits the city let them pull for renovations and never said a peep about the upcoming seizure. At $500,000 they would still be financially in the hole. The road could have gone around the house. It didn't need to go through it.
@@brendamoon2660 going THROUGH it was the local yokals having a laugh at the out-of-towner's investment...
@@brendamoon2660 Renovating a 900sq home does not cost 200K at best they spent 30K. They want 3 mil, plain and simple greed.
Take the money move on find a better place life is short
It’s Tennessee and us people tend to stay away from the rich politicians
Pigeon Forge should have bought it when it was for sale, 2022 I'm sure planning was going on.
I thought the same thing. That's the part that makes no sense to me.
The state knew they had road plans when they sold it. At least they offered more than the buyers paid.
Take the money and run
Good ol boy govt in pf
Obvious
Probably their 2nd home
Bald guy is just as bad as Pigeon Forge. I would have sat on my property and defended it when they came to tear it down.
He is an attorney commenting on imminent domain, not connected to the dispute. Watch the video again.
Land taken by eminent domain should be compensated at a rate at least double fair market value
I don't believe they will win this one. If it was a Walmart going in, they would have a good fight. Reducing traffic issues for the general public is within the spirit of what eminent domain was meant for.
Now if the general public rallied around this family, the city may back down.
why? so they can get more tax dollars than the property is worth?
We wont rally around more outta state investors making our peaceful neighborhoods into party zones for tourists.
The people need to take imminent domain of the government for the good of the country and it's people!
Either the plan wasn't disclosed before purchase or it was. If it was, then the buyers are getting a quick >$100k profit.
Roads are among the few things eminent domain can be legally used for.
The city should have to pay them $1 million for the property.
What do you want to bet that the previous owners had inside info about the new road being put in and ditched the property while they could.
I wonder how they will "blame the Libs" for this one... lol
She bought it knowing it would happen . She bought it thinking the city would pay more for it if she had a loan on the property.
Exactly that road project has been going for 4 years already.
Bingo.. Greedy family wants 3 million for a property they paid 300 K for.
@@CreekSide1779 Pigeon Forge did pay,....they want more, 3 million they asked for. This is all public record and published in many news papers and on the Towns web site.
She is the one who refused to cash a check, that was over 200,000 over the sale and appraised prices,...the Town was more than compensating her for her "troubles"
IN FACT IF YOU WERE TO GO AND PURCHASE PROPERTIES THAT WERE BEING SUBJECT TO EMINENT DOMAIN,...YOU COULD MAKE A TIDY PROFIT JUST BECAUSE MOST CITIES AND TOWNS PAY MORE THAN THE PROPERTIES ARE WORTH,..?????????? MAKES ME WONDER??????
All the memories they could have made in the house are priceless! They could have made a couple hundred thousand profit on a property they bought two years ago and they didn't take it?
Sad I have watched this since the day it started and the house is gone and the couple still owes on the house.
That's why you have title insurance, to protect the mortgage lender.
@@jannibal9273 Title insurance is to provide remedy. Its highly likely the company would defer the lender to petition the court for access to the money that the city has put into escrow as the only logical remedy.
These people are acting like this home has been in their family history for decades and has historical significance. Take the 500k and go away. We looked at property there as well as NC and did due diligence on future road construction in the area. Land was cheap and there was a reason. A road was about to split the land in two.
It was a vacation home. Not exactly a sob story
It takes a long time to plan a road. I'd go after the Realtors for not disclosing this information
Just take the half a million and move on! It’s a $300,000 house. I say that’s a nice profit.Dont try to make it a bigger payday. There are many beautiful houses out there. Buy another.
exactly even zillow only valued the property at 369,000
@@rebeccalynn7795 Zillow valuations are worth ZERO dollars and maybe 12 cents.
Yes this happens. You can buy the land back at a higher price than they were paid when the road plans change.
The title says it’s “their home” but it was an investment property.
$306,000 second home.
No different than folks from up north owning property in Florida.
It is their right to own more than one home in another region.
What we have not heard yet is what the city offer was for the property that was turned down by the family.
That is where the real issue more than likely rests.
@@jerryfrederick6610 the amount approved to offer is in the cities minutes which are public record. $490,000. nice profit for only owning it 2 years
@@jerryfrederick6610 They offered 500K and the family wants 3 mil.
@@CreekSide1779 Should have ask for 3 Bil
@@ripvanrevsshould have been offered $3.59.
Eminent domain the worst definition of communism.
These people again 🥱.
That goes against your own constitutional rights 💯
Was fair market value paid? If so then ST*U.
Nothing was paid to the owners. They are still making mortgage payments to a house that does not exist.
They paid $300.000+ for the property, nothing was paid to them cuz they turned down the $500.000 offer from the city just to fight it in court. They purchased it as an investment property to rent out when they weren’t using it but she says it wasn’t monetary?
@@raymonddavis483we used to have chickens and our neighbors let their dogs run onto our property and the dogs killed four of our chickens on our property. When we told him what had happened he said well I’ll pay to replace them…..I never gave him a number. Because I could not figure out a monetary value to all the work I put in raising them as chicks and waiting for them to start laying. Could I have pushed adult hens and tried to somehow get them integrated into an already tight knit flock? Yeah, but the fact that that’s even more work. Honestly, I would have had to have a lot more than he wanted to pay to feel like it even came close to the inconvenience and the time spent getting my hens to what they were when they died. If you’re gunna steal someone’s property and they spent 6-7 months renovating it themselves knowing they were going to make decades of income, you better pay to compensate appropriately
@@christinah9954 in real-estate renovations do not always increase the value of a property and investments in general don't always pay off.
@@christinah9954 That road project has been going on for 4 years if they didn't know this was going to happen or that it could happen then their realtor failed them. No surprise up here though. They were offered 200K above what they paid 2 years ago and they refused because they want 3 mil. No eff them.
They were offered more than fair market value.......😮
Is that the people that wanted a outrageous amount plus so many years of how much rent the house would bring in if it was being rented?
Yeah they want 1.5mil, well that isn't going to happen
@@b19jrm They could have gotten a lot more than 1.5 million because the property is worth a lot in future development or rent. That's the same reason the mayor's brother wanted the road moved from the original plans , so they could make money from the land they own beside these people. Original plan was a straight line through the empty campground the mayor's brother owns.
The property was zoned for commercial and the city offered an appraisal on residential. The family had way more spent on this property than 500k. The Race family had RV lots complete with hookups installed on the lot as well.
Well I didn't realize people were selling land for what it would be worth in the future. No wonder land is so high now. That must be why everything is getting so expensive it's being sold for what it will be worth in the future. Learn something new everyday.
The city had it appraised incorrectly so it was worth less. They are definitely going to loose in court, I guarantee it. It’s not hard to prove zoning, that’s part of public record.
Guarantee: the seller sold the property _because_ they knew about the plans for the road.
Caveat emptor.
You can go to the city and find out if there are future plans for that property and its neighborhood. Or if it's sitting on top of a worked out mine vein or toxic waste dump.
You should always do that.
Yes cause the mayor owns property beside it he new what he was doing
This isn’t RIGHT OR FAIR
Yeah it is right and fair. 200K profit for 2 years is very fair.
There is an Andy Griffith episode about this 😐
Not worth a tiddly-boo??
So this has been in planning for many years did she look into the property before she bought it projects like this took years to plan usually 7 to 10 years which means they knew that it was going to be part of said project . The seller more then likely knew this would happen so they sold the land . And because she didn't do her do diligence and look into the property first she takes the loss . Next time make sure you look into everything in the area going on otherwise you have no right to complain about it because you failed yourself . Not long ago the same issue happened in Kingsport Tn due to a expansion of a main road courts ruled then that it was the purchasers responsibility to look into the area they choose to buy in especially future city projects for this exact reason . They want to move to the area or buy property in the area then complain when changes to accommodate more of them have to happen it's hilarious
If they are FORCED to “sell” property to the city then they should receive double market value!
Then you'd be complaining how the gov is waisting/spending your tax dollars. They paid just over $300,000 and was offered $500,000.
Personal I think they were scammed. That new road took years of planning. The original property own knew about it and did a quick sell thinking they'd get more money than what the state would offer.
This is so sad. I hope the family wins.
American government is not just evil in DC.
Those people are ridiculous..they think they are privileged..They have no family ties of heritage to it so stop crying..if they have enough money to buy a second home consider themselves fortunate..It's not like they were living there.
Her website says she's the first millionaire in her family. 😭😭😭
They also own a investment property in the Outer Banks.
Ive been following this family story. It is so sad the Gov can do what they will.😢
Rental property?? Ohio?
I am so sick of the rentals in this area it is overgrown and bloated. To much development and this beautiful town is just gross now. The family was offered 500K for a home they bought 2 years ago for 300K and they want 3 mil. Effin greed.
Have you never been to Ohio??
I know the Appalachians are really glorified hills, but they dwarf anything in Ohio.
@@stephenbrand5661 been there done that.
@@stephenbrand5661 Yeah my mom is from Columbus.
@@CreekSide1779 Knox is ruined, Maryville is ruined, PF and Gatlinburg are ruined and Vonore will soon be ruined. It used to be so beautiful here like you said. Now, the scars will never heal. It’s too late for our once beautiful area.