Is the All-new GMC Sierra EV Denali BETTER Than the Rivian R1T & Ford F-150 Lightning?
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Look I get these things are high end, but all vehicles in general are absurdly expensive. Full disclosure is that I’m taking home 124k this year after the government is done with its share. I think that’s good pay, but if at that salary range a trucks price tag makes me pucker, then there’s something seriously wrong with auto manufacturing priorities.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I made a similar statement and was immediately attacked. Trucks were once the affordable option, now we'd be better off buying a foreign luxury sedan. I pitty any business owner that actually needs to purchase WT's or anyone who wants a semi nice truck for a daily driver
I love the styling of this truck
Agreed. Wish we could get an ICE version of this.
@@NWI_Steel Or even hybrid...
@@NWI_Steel It doesn't EXIST. Just one more creation from the Design Center.
@@devildog5354 YES. Plug in hybrid
Nicole from GMC knows her stuff! Very good looking truck! I think this is the best looking new EV truck coming. Thanks Andre and Nicole from GMC.
Wait hold up now wait for Ram to reveal it's EV truck 1st and whatever Tesla have with its final design truck
Great overview of the Sierra EV! I agree with Nathan that the Sierra EV looks better than the Silverado.
Nothing brightens up my day like a TFL video. I think I like the look of this bad boy. I’d love a rivian after seeing you guys take it in the snow but maybe this is a better option if I won the lotto.
Nice to see GM bring back the Avalanche as an electric vehicle! Loved my ‘03 Avalanche.
I honestly think GMC and Chevy think these $100K prices are reasonable. It would be interesting to see how much these cost to make vs ICE versions to see if that price increase is based on materials, production, or greed.
thanks for staying up to date on all the new EV developments. i used to be a die hard ICE enthusiast but as soon as i drove an electric car, i was smitten. they're just better. time for all of us to admit it and move on. charging infrastructure is happening. 400 miles is awesome already. they just need to get cheaper, and they will. its hard to read a lot of these comments hating on EVs, when i myself used to be skeptical. im a real truck guy, i use my current ICE silverado to pull stumps, i max out the payload regularly. i abuse my truck. and I'm ready for an electric version. the torque is just soooooo nice to have. i don't care if i can only go 150 miles towing. the other benefits of EVs are just worth it, in my opinion. we just need chargers posted along major routes and i'll be good. we do absolutely need pull through chargers though. no more parking spot chargers, that's really dumb.
@Steven Seagull While true the vast majority of people don't use a truck like that. So this truck will work for a very large number of people.
I'd also like to see the kwh costs of public chargers drop considerably along with more chargers in the smaller towns, because if I was to travel it would be on the back roads where I'd get optimum mileage range. Casey's general store would be a good starting place for those new chargers.
@Steven Seagull The current equivalent fuel tank of a lightning is around 4 gallons of gasoline. Put just 4 gallons of gasoline in your tank and see how well your ICE vehicle does compared to the lightning. If the lightning had the same equivalent capacity of a 36 gallon tank, the battery would be 9 times bigger, 9 times heavier, would go 9 times farther than the current battery.
It will be the pressure up upgrade the grids work wide..
But we really need to renovate recycling culture to include vehicles rather than crushing them..
Also to have EVs that are not fully self controlling. Many people want to have vehicles that no other entity can control remotely..
I like the advancements in drop in crate motor/battery pack units that take the place of standard v8 and v6 engines and allow for full electrification of any vehicle still on the road. The best thing for the environment is to keep all the cars already out there, on the road, but using electricity.
This will also push our generation technologies to hopefully stop involving the direct consumption of fossil fuels
One awesome video. Thank you so much.
1 year behind Ford in production. But years ahead with technology and innovation.
Really over 2 years because the Sierra is still a year away from hitting the streets. The Lightning existed as a prototype a year before production as well.
@@Josh-179 Lightning existed as a prototype many years before we even saw it. GM already has IVER's of the Silverado EV and Sierra EV running around. Some of these have been in testing for some time now.
GM is betting everything on EV even more so than Ford. If EV fails GM is in big trouble again. The government is driving all this giving these companies subsidizes to go electric. The 2035 goal will never happen. Companies like Toyota are the smart ones asking why the hell did everyone just jump straight to EVs instead of highbrids
Agree , need more affordable EV truck . Looking forward to the EV trailers/ AT4 ! Also loved the look of the EV Silverado W/T , but have to have large battery option. !!
I own a Tesla model Y and my next truck will be an EV too and liking this GMC truck.
A lot of vehicle manufacturers are switching to lower headlights because of the IIHS testing of headlight capability. Higher headlights generate more potential for glare to other drivers. Positioning the headlights lower allows for more powerful lights with better aim and less glare for other drivers to improve IIHS scores.
Which pickups need, my Rams headlights are hot garbage, my brothers chevy is garbage, my dad's ford is a dumpster fire
Hopefully in the future we won’t have so many idiot brodozers blinding me in my Fiesta ST whenever they decide to tailgate me at 80 mph.
@@cartilagehead6326that’s why auto dimming side view and rear view are a must have modification
the doors aren't amazingly beautyful like rams but the center console and dashboard are amazing seems the lightning has compition
The top of range Ford lighting is 98 thousand, and it has less range , less power and no height adjustable suspension or four wheel steering. And can't go off road because lack of ground clearance. So the extra 10 thousand for the gmc gives you a lot more capabilities.
New Lightning in 2024/2025…it will be fine
I don't off road, I don't drive long distance & the lightning has all the power I'll ever need. 9.6 kw with 131 kwh is the most power I'll ever need. It has ever capability of any F150, & does it better & cheaper. All wheel steering sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen.
@@pstoneking3418 sounds like you don't need a vehicle and your better off installing batteries in your home.
@@collinsimmons7156 thanks, I was going to say they only need a radio flyer wagon.
@P Stoneking I'm with you...because why not just get a drone with a good camera until you are 100% sure you don't have to hike out? How many of these customers could even get out of a $107,000 rolled truck? But it could be a feature that it won't be available for even the lottery winners...for years.
Silverado EV hp and torque have been updated to match the Sierra.
I have not seen in any video show how the truck is started?
Also, the “Show tires” currently on the truck make the overall look of the truck. GMC MUST offer these tires as standard or at minimum an option.
I think the GMC Sierra EV Denali Edition 1 will change the truck world.
Thank you for a great video!
Push the pedal like a gas pedal let off to slow down.
I’m sure we’ll hear the battery space is water tight - but has anyone heard how the EV trucks do at a boat launch and treading water? I mean the charge port is on the rear as well
Another excellent, very informative video guys!
Q: can you charge it at a campsite/ RV campground..??
Chevrolet Volt was the first range extended EV mass production vehicle for consumers.
I liked the volt cause it could charge itself from gas motor and it kept the cabin at the temp.of your choice
Mann all I can say bring it on ,good to see her foot is well.
The overall styling is pretty nice, but man, that belt line is so high. One of the best things about driving a truck is that even modern ones generally have excellent visibility. But this thing? I'm not sure I'd wanna spend $107,000 to drive in a tub...
They do have WTF mode-It's what is called MSRP...One look at the MSRP and you will automatically say "WTF!!"
I can hardly wait to see how it handles the Ike.
GM just invested in a company that makes a leather alternative out of mushrooms
GM is really setting the world on fire with their new EV lineup!
Setting the world on fire with announcements !!!!!! How many prototypes can the Poletown plant produce ??? Andre should know better.
@@altondavis2 No I mean they are literally selling the world on fire
Yea ok 🙄
😂😂
I think fire extinguishers are available if you order the right equipment group.
I love the center infotainment
But I truly dislike the gauge cluster,
Reminds me of the Hyundai Santa Cruz.... doesn't fit in well.
Since this truck won't be out until at least 2024, I'd say it is probably about as good as the Cybertruck. No comparison to the Rivian or Lightning until Andre is taking it down the quarter mile! 😂
Facts
Cybertruck ain't coming out
CT….going to be a longggggg time
I feel the same way, until it's actually being sold and on the streets, just talk
@@pstoneking3418 Hard to believe GM will be producing these electrical trucks in significant numbers before Tesla's truck squashes this ridiculous market segment.
My question is,
Why wait so long? 2024 is long when the competition is Already out there!
That's an early prototype, just like when they unveiled the hummer ev
Because it’s not ready yet. And it will be in 2024.
They went woke and gone broke.
Silverado EV is coming out first. GM is installing a lot of battery manufacturing capability in the US but it won't be fully ramped up until 2025. So they need to pick and choose which vehicles get what first. Their first factory in Warren, OH just started cell production in late August this year and is ramping up. there are three more factories under construction right now.
If money wasn't a factor, I think I'd get the Denali over the Hummer EV, Lightning or Silverado EV.
Dang 24's, those tires will cost north of $500 each😳
Hardly anybody actually drives on this size tire
EV have about half the part count of a gas car, but yet it cost 2 to 4 times as much.?? It has its own type of pollution ( gases from Lithium or Ultium batteries) known to expel highly toxic gases both when charging and discharging. This added to our already polluted air. The total operating cost of these EVs is extremely high on the long run.. No thanks, I'll pass. I don't want to add to the problem.!
Great shirt RIP Lemmy
Think the large 24 inch wheels were made necessary by a really thick floor that has to hold two 106 kWh batteries stacked on top of each other. The higher HP numbers in the GMC has to be software controlled as both the Silverado and GMC trucks use the same Ultium motors. Love the flexibility of the mid gate but if your going on a long trip I think a camper shell or bed cover will be necessary to keep the cabin warm and quiet. In regards to air suspension, wouldn’t it reduce suspension travel when lifted or lowered?
400 miles of range with 24” wheels and those tires? 200 kilowatt battery?
these machine is so fantastic and amazing great!
I HAVE A REALLY NICE GL 550 BENZ TRUCK BUT IT HAS MAJOR ISSUES, WHICH THE MERCEDES BENZ SERVICE CENTER CAN'T SEEM TO FIGURE OUT FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS, SO I THINK I WILL TRADE MY BENZ TRUCK IN AND GET THIS TRUCK. I LOVE ALL THOSE NEW FEATURES IN THE TRUCK. ....
I noticed something in the bed on the left sidewall at the rear. What is that? A handle for a step? All of the trucks are getting so high it is hard to get up into the bed. On my R1T I use the gear tunnel door to climb up on to get into the bed.
Monthly payment of around $1700-$2000, as well as the insurance per month, sales tax of the cost of the vehicle.... It's more than the mortgage on our home by about $400-$600 per month.
It’s not marketed to you…..
@@phileasler5401 oh i knew that, but even vehicles $50k-$80k are way too much. If they want ev vehicles of any kind to be more for the masses, then they have to get the prices of them down. But I don't think that will happen since the price of some of the Tesla models have increased vs going down.
Can you do a long term review of the chevy suburban z71 and or a jeep wagoneer L. Or even just a 3-6 month review. 12 months on suburban and 6 months on wagoneer L.
Let's wait and see. If GMC hits all their promised specs, should be a quality EV pickup. At a too high price most likely.
I watched the design review that @TheSketchMonkey did. I have to agree with him. It's a great looking truck on the outside, but the interior feels too cold and sterile. The ICE interior looks much better imo. Slapping iPads on the dash w/o any thought of comfortably integrating them is not going to age well. For example, where is the housing and visor for the gauge cluster?
Guys at the segment 8:44 about HP. That is no longer the case. If you look up the Silverado's webpage you will see they updated the numbers to match the Sierra.
Can you like for us the video where you went to Alaska in the ford lightning?
The biggest thing that everyone is over looking is that the majority of people can't afford 100k for a auto
Beautiful GMC
I'll stick with the ford lightning. I guess you could call me Ford diehard. I love my lightning, never been worried about the range because I only use it locally and always charging at home. Other than range what will the Sierra EV do that my lightning won't. I don't off road, what I can't haul in the bed I can put on my 6x12 trailer which can come close to hauling the lightnings max tow of 10,000 lbs. It'll do everything any F150 I've ever owned will do. And do it better, cheaper and still rides like a luxury car. 4 second 0 to 60 is actually much faster than I'll ever need. More than enough power to get up and go passing or lane merging.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself that you're happy with your purchase 😂 that's fine and all but the current Lightning isn't enough for most of us at that price point. Waiting for this GMC personally, I was a Ford guy forever but this outdoes everything Ford has currently and by far. Love that mid gate too, huge frunk, huge range, nice screen/interior. I just hope I get approved for the loan because at these prices my god...
Synthetic leather uses plastic as a component which is made from petroleum. The dinosaurs sacrificed themselves for the cows.
underrated comment 😂
maybe it’s mushroom skin …
Exactly
Thank you!
Not all plastics are made from petroleum. But even ones that are can be recycled. There is nothing wrong with petroleum. But we need to be more responsible with it. Burning it for energy is just stupid.
The truck is cool, but the Lemmy shirt steals the show for me. 🤘🤘🤘
Is it really cheaper to maintain? If you are paying for all your traditional maintenance costs upfront.
Ding, ding ding. This is the winner comment.
Virtue signaling is becoming an expensive avocation...
Is the crabwalk feature available at freeway speeds while towing? As I understand it that's one of the advantages of 4x steering in a truck. Changing lanes using all 4 wheels going the same direction (crabwalk) at a lower steering level would keep the pulling vehicle driving straighter with less force pushing the back end around.
Why would any ever need to crab walk at highway speeds.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 I think he means 4-wheel steer.
@@garysarratt1 I'm pretty sure I don't want to share the road with him.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 To prevent jackknifing. It would help keep the trailer from pushing the truck's back end to the outside of the turn and keep the force of the trailer more in line with the truck. It's safer.
At highway speeds the wheels will turn with each other at the same direction, BUT not at the extreme angle that Crab walk does at speeds below 10 MPH.
Extremely expensive. And what is the problem with leather?!
Nice truck
what tires are those?
What made me think Nathan was watching the video along with us?
I'm curious about tire wear. For example you go buy new 50K mile tires at your local tire dealer.
Are those tires now going to be worn out by 20-30K or possibly less because of the extra weight? I would guess that with the softer rubber of a off road/AT tire they wouldn't last very many miles so you could be stuck using a all season tires.
Well with the extra weight you'll be buying higher load rated tires anyway.
@@bahamatodd Well that means no or very limited off road/all terrain tires. It's a matter softer rubber compound not weight rating.
I put 10ply Cooper discoverer STT' pro's on my Colorado and got darn close to 62K miles on them. My friend put them on his silverado and and wore them almost bald at about 40K.
Nothing to do with weight rating and everything to do with the rubber compound.
I think you will see the same problems as the Hummer EV had when it was released. Water leaking into the batteries. Software problems, and the same distance problems when towing. And you get all these problems for a mere $107,000 plus tax and etc. So, $110,000 out the door. Yeah, that's saving $ over a gas engine.
Yes.
I don't totally agree with an EV truck because of the range while towing. Not to mention how long does it take to fully charge up? This is why don't really care for EV towing trucks. I get more range with my diesel. That all aside I'm still not sold on EVs.
the question also that I have is does it come with an extended bed? If it does is there going to be more battery capacity with the long bed. Also I am in the process of joining up with a company called ATC, they convert pickup trucks to a wheelchair friendly. Traditionally they chop into the floor to make more room for a wheelchair. Do you know how that will work with the batteries in the way? Do you know if you can increase your towable wait if you want to?
Nothing like a quality built GM product. Expect it to be as reliable and capable as the EV Hummer…
GM doesn't build or produce all the parts on any vehicle. I'm sure you are aware of such. Regardless GM made the right decision on releasing Hummer first because most here is new. There should be issues. Hopefully most are looked into before release of Sierra and Silverado.
@@jeffwill4923 i know they don’t build everything in house anymore but GM still has the responsibility to ensure quality control especially on a $107k vehicle, no excuse. Issues like that with GMs aren’t uncommon, it doesn’t inspire buyer confidence.
@@vr4787 I understand your point but some news has come out about the Hummer. Based off what I saw online, some type of recall maybe done because of a sealing issue with battery.
and add the dealer markups , 2nd party dealer resales ,ebaymotors flippers for the rich kids let them fight over them
Lower you put the headlights the better. Less angle on the beam so it can project further.
There is a legal distance your headlight can project.
@@MrTheguywiththemoney No, there's not.
@@larrysmith6797 bro... yes there is. That's why you have a low and high beam. You can get a ticket for your lights being adjusted incorrectly.
@@MrTheguywiththemoney
No there isn't, there is a legal distance the lights need to be from the ground though.
@@Robert-cu9bm ok buddy, just Google it... or I guess have people flash their brights in your face
Do like the look of this, same with ev Silverado. With one exception, I can't get past the bed and cab being one. That's the one thing about the lightning I like it's still more truck an less Hyundai/Ridgeline..
Yep, limits the buyer market
Charging reservoirs built into the truck
How to charge in California brownouts
How does the GMC compare to the Ford electric F-150 .?
Thank You
Dennis Dean
Style Pyle, whatever. One of my neighbors has a Rivian pickup truck IN HIS DRIVEWAY. These GM fanguys are arguing the ' what ifs ' of a prototype. How uch of this stuff will ever see production ???? and WHEN ???
I get your point but GM chose the Hummer first mainly because of limited battery factories. Silverado could be here right now. Hummer is considered the Flag ship model. It should be first.
Will the horsepower for the Silverado Ev be bumped up? I’m guessing the Silverado Ev and the Sierra Ev have the exact same battery. Why is the horsepower 90 horsepower more on the Sierra?
Different motor’s probably
@@agentcarder Nope, Same motors. Ultium only uses three different motors in different combinations for all vehicles. Both the Silverado EV RST and Sierra Denali EV use the 255KW permanent magnet motors both front and rear.
What’s the difference between Lemmy and God? Trick question….Lemmy is God. 😂. Much props for the Lemmy shirt. Rivian on order but thinking I would rather have an elevation version of this if It’s similar price to post price jump Rivian
I live in La La Land can you give us your opinion on the Best daily driver 🌞✌️🌴
Anything you can drive to get out of the state...
I don’t see the four-wheel-drive controls
Ugh, just get rid of those huge wheels! I'd be embarrassed to drive it to work although I love the look of the truck as a whole.
MotorHead! 🤘
Is GMC Sierra ev at4 coming
I wonder how long battery lasts pulling my snowmobile trailer….. great city truck though. Looks sharp
TFL did a test recently with a heavier trailer than your snowmobile. You can expect around 350 miles with a trailer like yours. 😉
I just got a F250 7.3L the range on it is only 330 miles empty??? EV pickups are close!
? On the off road Trail boss. Why can't a person put chain's on the front anymore, it seems like they have the a arms now to close to the tires.?
Chevy shouldn't have discontinued the Volt.
Leather leather leather!!!!
I wouldn’t want other people to see my level of charge.
Wonder why the wheel wells in bed don’t match
Charge port wiring
If you don’t make over a 6 digit salary I don’t see the average person buying these EVs with price tags over $100,000.
So long as gmc and chevrolet continue to use the same plateform, it will also be the same truck with different skin.
Duel motors and 4WS...........sounds like a Tamiya Clodbuster! 🤔
outlaw 24" wheels
Not sure about the design decisions... Front Grill looks a lot like previous model of Gas/diesel version.... Why didn't they go with new sierra front (after 2022)...!?!? Interior is more related to the hummer then Sierra... We don't get panoramic moonroof with gas version. Also, I preferer horizontal Sierra infotainment in the gas version. This was a GM unique design element which seperates them from competition... Now with this huge lateral screen, seem they copied all others...
The headlight and taillight configuration really reminds me of a ice f150.
What's with f150 having stacked headlights and a horizontal split bar in the grill like chevy and ram or toyota copying gmc ?
Quad cab El camino
Who the hell can afford a $100,000 truck that needs one? 🐐💩
What happened to Jay?
How is real leather not better for the environment than petroleum based synthetics and plastics? Some people need to eat more protein.
Most of this "green" stuff is literally just marketing to get people to buy it so they can feel like they did something for the environment. Damn near everything man makes is detrimental to the environment in someway
That must be a unibody
125k avalanche 🙏✌️🇨🇦🇺🇸
👍💖👍
$107k 😳🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I said this elsewhere, but this makes me think it is an evolution of the Avalanche. Not bad looking but still very similar.
I haven’t seen any truck get more than 120 miles pulling more than 3700 lbs so they just blowing smoke up people ass n cold wether they suck and start at 95k I stick with gas’ boat is 9000k lbs
led lights are cheap as hell ... there is no excuse....
wat
They act like it's some far off future tech... when you can buy an led flashlight brighter than headlights for $30. And you can buy led replacements for headlights for like $30
@@MrTheguywiththemoney
There are silly amounts of cheap durable rgb leds for hardly anything... its not even funny
Drive electric ⚡️ and say bye bye to the pumps
That’s fine if you don’t tow. I bought the 3500 HD AT4 as I tow with it.
None of this matters to me. I can’t afford vehicles that are in this price range.