The EpicLoyd line was actually the second wall break, the first one was the first line ."Bully I love competition " it refers to Dan Bull the actor playing Churchill,
Third. When Roosevelt says "What's up bitches?" it is a reference to his catchphrase as the ERB mascot that they would use for announcement videos in between seasons.
oh snap you little fun fact too the guy that's playing Winston Churchill is in another rap battle he's Jack the Ripper version Hannibal Lecter really good ripped in a way funny way witch his the bomb like much respect✌👍🇬🇧
I think the line is more referring to the fact that he was fairly careless with the lives of the commonwealth countries and poorer footsoldiers from Britain. It wasn't just a failed campaign, but British commanders ordered ludicrous charges and told troops to hold ground in suicidal stands that needlessly cost thousands of lives. The thought was as long as they won, the number of grunts dying was irrelevent. Churchill thought it'd all go easily if they rushed in, but it was all so poorly managed that they were failing everywhere and just believing in their past glory that they'd win eventually because they were British commanders.
@@williammotta150 Yeah with a ton more soldiers and a plan they'd have taken it. Not going since they didn't have the numbers would've been ok too. Going anyway was just suicidal, but only for the soldiers, not the commanders.
many australian and new zealander soldiers died as well hence why us australians and new zealanders celebrate anzac day which stands for the australian and new zealand army corps.
"The Big Stick" refers to a lot of things... it was TRs foreign policy: "speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." And it's the nick name of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt.
3:17 The "what's up bitches" is a reference to something they used to do in the past. They would have updates that started with Roosevelt saying that (also why only his mouth is moving there because that was the style) Here's an example of that in the first 3 seconds: th-cam.com/video/AxOVW2CNw7Q/w-d-xo.html
The tube in Britain is the underground train or subway. During the German Blitz of the UK and especially London people would hide in the subways since they were built pretty well.
I think Teddy won too. Churchill's last line "we shall never surrender" is from the same speech he mentioned earlier. "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."
The "look at that mug" line could also be considered a double because Winston was nicknamed the British Bulldog. And Mug is a root beer brand with a Bulldog as a symbol.
Yup that's the first line reference as well, "bully! A challenge! I love competition" was a double or triple, referrers to his nick name, his busting and e.t.c
Fun fact: Winston Churchill was half American. His mother was Jennie Jerome, a beautiful American heiress. During the "Gilded Age", it was quite common for rich American business tycoons to marry their daughters off to British aristocracy. It was mutually beneficial, as the aristocrats were usually broke and needed their brides' dowries, and in return the brides got titles and prestige.
It’s pretty much what happened in Downton Abbey, with the previous Lord Grantham (who was impoverished) marrying his son to the daughter of an American dry goods magnate
The Two Fingers extended (as a form of obscene gesture) comes from the medieval days! During that time, the yew bows that English archers used were capable of puncturing platemail armor, and were therefore regarded as incredibly dangerous weapons, so whenever their enemies (particularly the French) captured English archers, they would cut off the fingers that they used to draw the bowstring. So, as a result, the index and middle finger extended in a V was used as a taunt by archers against their enemies, as if to say "Yeah, we still have these! You're screwed!"
@@vanity1180 Eh, the story hasn't been verified as true, it's one of those myths that gets passed down. Maybe a bit of truth in it, but no one's really sure.
6:30 actually Alabama is the closest state in size to England. Alabama is roughly 52,000 square miles, while England is about 50,000 square miles. The entire UK is about 93,000 square miles which is bigger than Idaho but smaller than Oregon. I just learned that in my geography class, and it’s crazy
During Churchill's era, England wasn't separate. In fact, it was Great Britain (or UK?) for centuries already. Only the Republic of Ireland separated from Great Britain in 1920/1921. The rest had been a union all along.
"The tube" is British slang for the subway. During the blitzkrieg people would take cover in the subway system. We, the USA, were in the midst of peace talks with Japan when the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor occurred. The reason it caused such outrage as to change the opinions of an entire nation is because it had required the Japanese fleet to begin traveling in secret before the talks had even started indicating Japan was never interested in sueing for peace and their diplomats were meant to keep us vulnerable instead of preparing for war.
Yup, if I remember correctly even the Japanese diplomats that were sent didn't know about the surprise attack that was planned. It is very possible that they were lying, but also it is possible that there were inner political conflicts and it was a way to get rid of the ones that were sent for peace talks (all speculation). Only supporting evidence is that there were conflicts between the military branches of Japan. th-cam.com/video/N1L9J6D-ggE/w-d-xo.html again I have not checked to see if that video is 100% correct.
I was watching a reactor do Stephen King vs. Poe, going "Ohhhh!" to every bar, then at the end saying "Wait, which one was Stephen King?". After that, it renewed my appreciation for your ERB breakdowns, haha.
"I might be battling you even though I'm toasted..." - At one point at a diplomatic function a British Lady walked up to Churchill and said something like "You, sir, are drunk!" He replied with "I might be drunk, but you are, Madam, are ugly and in the morning I'll be sober but you'll still be ugly."
Churchill was the mastermind of the battle for Gallipoli and it's public advocate, so most blame him for the disaster that it was. I enjoy your breakdowns, have you thought of reacting to some sabaton songs?
The big thing about size is during the time of Winston Churchill, The UK owned many colonies all over meaning it was way bigger than described in the video but very accurate for the current time.
Also, WC is British for bathroom (water closet), so the full deuce is a number 2. That’s why Winston responds with “Whatever shit you throw at me, I’ll just return to sender.”
Part of the irony in the "while I wake up every day and chain smoke cigars" line is that Theodore Roosevelt was actually prescribed whiskey and cigars as a treatment for his asthma.
The Alabama comparison is actually way closer than you think. Though it isn't true for the whole of the UK, England itself is only 50k square miles. Alabama is 52.
The hide in your tube part is because in WWII, the underground train stations (the tube, as the british called it) were used as bomb shelters for the people.
One thing you seemed confused on - and for good reason, it's obscure - Is the "what's up bitches" line early on in the first verse. Back when ERB was regularly putting out content, in between seasons they would put out a short "when is the next season starting" video. In those videos, the bust of Roosevelt would present the information in a silly, over the top way, with it's mouth moving like a nutcracker. If you look closely, when Lloyd says "what's up bitches", his mouth is animated in the same way, speaking with his over-the-top Roosevelt voice. It's literally a throwback/easter egg to ERB's own videos.
Interestingly, the fact that Teddy knew enough first aid to know that he was stable after being shot and because he stayed and demanded that "no harm shall come" to John Flamming Schrank who has just shot Roosevelt, Schrank's life was saved. Many agree that he would have lynched by the Roosevelt supporters before the police could apprehend him. Schrank was born in Bavaria and immigrated to the US at age 5. By age 9 he had lost both parents and went to live with his wealthy aunt and uncle. At some point in his young adult years they both died leaving him a considerable amount of money and lots of property. About this time his girlfriend and only love in life died in a boating accident. He abruptly sold the properties and possessions and wandered the East Coast, drifting town to town. He never caused any legal trouble however he would engage in lively religious debates with locals which could rifle some feathers from time to time. Prior to his trial Schrank was declared insane as he had told authorities that President McKinley, for whom Roosevelt served as VP, had appeared in a dream and demanded that Schrank avenge McKinley's assassination by killing Roosevelt. Schrank lived in an asylum until his death in 1943- 31 years after the shooting.
Also boxing trainers often uses “dancing” terminology for technical/evasive techniques and footwork. You’d be surprised how many boxers take dancing classes to improve footwork and timing. I was one... but I’m still a trash dancer lol
Good reaction video, just to add some additional unpacking of the lyrics here: Yes to the underground bunker, Churchill had secret sections of the London Tube network which were used as a bunker, but also as a base of operations to organise Britain's defenses, especially during the battle of Britain. Also full deuce is a reference to both the two fingered salute, but also deuce being slang for poo. Essentially calling Churchill a toilet he is about to take a dump on. This then ties in with the line "Whatever shit you throw at me, I'll just return to sender".
I had to google it cause I want to know now, the UK is closest in size to Oregon(though the UK is a little bit smaller than Oregon), and as an Australian I’m obligated to include the fact that the UK would fit into Queensland about 7 times :)
@@6666Imperator I’m fairly sure the stat is for the whole United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland, so i don’t think it includes the rest of the ROI
By chance, do you watch Teacher Eddie? You and he have such a passion for history, and although ERB teaches me things about history I didn't know, you and Teacher Eddie give breakdowns to these that reveal even MORE, and it's amazing.
Brits hid in the subway tunnels during bomb raids. Also Churchill did everything he could do dodge the draft during ww1. Teddy Roosevelt also helped create the boy scouts
A few notes and corrections off the top of my head: You seem to confuse Teddy Roosevelt with FDR a few times. Teddy was president about 30 years before Hitler's rise to power (early to mid 1900s), so that skews some of the timeline a bit. For example when Churchill points out that he was fighting Nazis while TR was opening parks he's comparing how difficult their jobs were, not saying that Teddy was ignoring the Nazis. World War 1 didn't start until Teddy was already out of office, much less World War 2. Essentially the line is just "You had it easy, I had a much harder task." This was a response to Teddy's earlier line about running a country much larger than England. He was being hyperbolic comparing England to the size of a state. It doesn't matter which state, Teddy's just saying "I had a ton more responsibility running this huge country than you do running this one tiny fraction of what I was in charge of." Also: Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor because we were selling arms to England. They attacked because they were in the process of greatly expanding their territory. As they island hopped across the Pacific they were very aware that at some point America might just say "Enough!" when they got too close to American territory and push back. They waited as long as they could then attacked Pearl Harbor as a preemptive strike to cripple our ability to fight back before attempting to take American territory. The part you're thinking of with America giving arms to England was called the Lend-Lease program. FDR couldn't justify throwing America into WWII without good reason because WWI had just wrapped up a few years prior and Americans wanted nothing to do with another European war. Huge populations of Americans were also German descendants and immigrants. The public will to fight just wasn't there. Instead, FDR made a deal with England to supply them. This way America could help without sending over troops. Essentially FDR said "Take all these munitions and hardware. Pay us for what you can, give us an IOU for what you can't and we'll just say you're borrowing our stuff." You are correct about Teddy's wife and mother dying close together. Specifically, they died within 24 hours of each other in the same house. Teddy's mother succumbed to illness and his wife died in childbirth. Famously, his journal entry for that day was just a big black X and the single line "The light has gone out of my life." As a bit of a side note on this episode: Your insight on a lot of things is really good, but you do sometimes seem to miss the forest for the trees. Not every line about Churchill's face is going to be a subtle dig about how Teddy is on a mountain and Churchill isn't. Maybe he's just calling the guy ugly. Also for me the line where TR won it was when he pointed out that Churchill's parents abandoned him. Up to that point, Churchill's strongest line was the dig at how Roosevelt's family died young. Roosevelt then took that line and immediately spun it around. "Yeah, my family died, but they didn't have a choice in that. Yours did and they abandoned you anyway." Boom. Done. Battle over. If you get a chance, check out the Ken Burns PBS documentary called "The Roosevelts". It's excellent and tells the history of their family, with most of the emphasis on Teddy, FDR, Alice and Eleanore Roosevelt.
Alice was a proper spitfire. Teddy was known for saying “I can do one of two things. I can be President of the United States or I can control Alice Roosevelt. I cannot possibly do both.”
In some ways Japan knew they where fight a losing war and that the US after beating other country's would then send in aid. So i think they were hope that would happen. They just could not imagine the response we would give.
Yes, the tube is the British version of a "subway". And yes, many times during the blitz people would hide in them. They were designated shelter areas. My grandmother on my father's side lived in London during WW2 and was a teenage volunteer air raid warden. I heard more than one story about her experiences when I was a wide-eyed kid. Running through the streets as bombs exploded around her. Her neighbours house was completely demolished by a bomb at one point. She suffered from bad PTSD and a certain level of dementia in the last year or so of her life. She would have random panic attacks and claim that the Germans were here, seemingly reliving her past trauma and memories. I remember once when I visited her as a kid I was wearing a shirt from an army disposal store that just happened to have the German flag stitched onto one shoulder. I guess it was an old German army shirt. She didn't really make a fuss but I remember my parents telling me that it had really stressed her out and asking me to step outside the nursing home for a while so she wouldn't see it. As a 12 year old kid I didn't didn't really grasp the gravity of the situation and thought it was kind of funny. Looking back now I realise that she probably had seen horrible things as a result of the Blitz and that any reminder of those days probably really affected her in a major way. That particular visit ended up being the last time I ever saw her conscious, as not long afterwards she slipped into a coma and passed away. I still feel bad for wearing that shirt the last time I saw her. If I could wear anything else in hindsight, I would. Her father also served in the trenches of WW1 and was a dispatch rider for a while before being wounded by mustard gas, so I'm sure she'd heard plenty of stories about Germans in her own childhood, let alone her own experiences as a teenager during WW2 living in one of the most bombed cities of the war. It was a touchy subject. Knowing people that lived through those times really makes it feel a whole lot more personal in some weird way. It becomes more than history written down in a book, or shown in a movie. It becomes real. That might sound strange to some people, but if you know, you know.
I'm Australian, but my family has a pretty close connection to England through my grandmother. She was an amazing person, and I wish I could've known her as an adult and spoken to her with the knowledge I now have.
Also, it should be noted that tensions were high between the US and Japan for a long time before Pearl Harbor. Both countries were heading for a war before WW2 started.
I looked it up, England is smaller Arizona, California, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, and Wyoming. Michigan and England are nearly the same size in area (Michigan is slightly larger).
I am binge watching you react to ERB so I can learn about history and other references. I used to watch these as a kid and I just thought they sounded good but as I’m 21 years old now and watching them through with you teaches me so much I did t know and it’s really entertaining. Keep up the great work, really like your break downs and analyses of these songs! Edit: I’m Swedish so my American history is not that great so getting a lecture about America from (what I would say) a very smart and articulate American is very interesting and eye opening :)
Churchill lasted 30 more years of life chain smoking and binge drinking is absolute madness. 17:50 you forgot the offeres those things at a heavily marked up price and the entire reason Anglo / Japanese relations broke down was America being heavily against the racial equality proposal after WW1.
Have you read, "Why England Slept", a paper by John F. Kennedy? JFK wrote it when his father Joe Sr. was the American ambassador to England before WW2. Its an interesting POV and it does give some context to the surrounding leaders of the time.
The what's up b***hes line is a reference to the channel updates they would release. It's a photo of teddy roosevelt narrating all the stuff they announce.
The U.S. state closest in size to England in terms of square miles is Alabama. The total land area of England is slightly more than 50,300 square miles. Alabama is only slightly larger at 50,700 square miles in size. Personally, I say Theodore won. When Churchill learned of pearl harbor, one of his quotes was his confidence that the allies would win. Churchill explains his feelings that evening, beginning with, “No American will think it wrong of me if I proclaim that to have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. I could not foretell the course of events. I do not pretend to have measured the marshall might of Japan, but now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!”
It might also be a reference to the "ma deuce" or M2, a heavy calibre machine gun which played an important part in WWII, (and basically every other conflict America has been in since.)
16:20 - the "tube" is a nickname the London underground railway system, which (being underground and all) was used as impromptu bomb sheltering for residents of London during the blitz bombings by the luftwaffe in WW2
"Teddy had more bars" Yes literally, I think both of TR's rounds were significantly longer than WC's were... Another small reference you might have have missed if you haven't been following ERB from their early days, Teddy yelling "WHAT'S UP B!TCHES!" is a bit of an inside joke. Because ERB used the image of TR and used him as a sort of announcer of news and upcoming projects and that was his standard catchphrase. As to America's involvement in WWII, initially the US was fine sitting this war out without being directly involved. The provided goods, arms, etc. but were content to leave it at that. And while America's involvement was incredible helpful in the European campaign and the effort and sacrifices those American soldiers made should never be forgotten, the war would most likely been won by the allies, even without America's involvement. Though who knows how long that would have taken.
Thank you for this reaction sir, funnily enough i watched some ERB reactions of yours last weekend and was thinking you would like this one. And now you're already reacting to it. I feel quite lucky.
I love this one! Another one I love with Dan Bull in it is Jack the Ripper vs Hannibal Lecter. You would love that one man, you should definitely check it out!
I guess ERB should have added a tooltip to the glasses. he LITERALLY nudges them off as he says it. so for one reactor to not know what the word means to another feeling the need to explain what they are...the world is weird...
UK is the same size as Alabama, population wise I think it is near California. the big stick was the American diplomatic thinking try to talk things out but have the military power back those words up. the Japanize attack was caused by American embargos on supplies they needed and the need to clear other powers from its areas. they hoped that fast hard attack would bring the USA to the table to avoid war. full deuce maybe 1-2 combo punch or the US 50 cal is known as ma deuce so TR had the big guns.
You have to consider that, at the time, America was not considered the world power it is now. We helped out in WWI, but not a superlative amount or anything, and we were in the tail end of the Great Depression when WWII broke out. And we actually weren't as necessary as our history books like to think. Germany did themselves in when they turned on Russia and invaded. We just sped things up a bit.
Speeding up things did save many lives though. Not saying we were essential in winning but we did help save lives with a quicker end. And as they say history is written by the winners
Lol again I’m one of your Canadian viewers. I find it funny every time you say “we’re American so you know what I’m saying” as a Canadian viewer I always laugh when you forget to mention your Canadian viewers who know what you are talking about. You are still a very knowledgeable person I enjoy when explain or confirm the facts in the ERB videos
I think the spruce mustache was a double entendre as so 1 grow a bushy mustache 2 spruce being a type of pine tree and Theodore was known for making national parks to preserve wildlife and forests.
I think this is my closest battle in all of ERB. There's a few more that are close for me too, but this one is rough, though I gotta go with my boy Teddy.
Fun Fact Teddy's favorite drink was the Cuba Libre = Cuban rum + Cola syrup + soda water + lime juice. It's quite fantastic if you ever get a chance to have Cuban Rum or a blended recreation that is close. After his Presidency, Roosevelt served as a Scout Leader in Oyster Bay, NY of Troop 39 and first Commissioner of Nassau County Council. He was heavily involved in both Boy Scout and Girl Scouts of America. Later he was elected Honorary Vice President of the Boy Scouts, and first and only Chief Scout Citizen. The Boy Scouts still lay wreaths as Roosevelts grave and he's the only person with a Medal from the Boy Scouts named after him
"I'm dropping bombs while your hiding in a tube". In WW2 the Germans were bombing the crap out of England so Churchill spent most nights in a bomb shelter. "Keep calm and carry on" This slogan was intended to encourage the British people to continue to fight even if the government surrendered. Which was a very real possibility. So it was basically a call to carry out terrorist attacks after the Germans successfully invaded. The fact that this was something they were prepping their people for says a lot and plays even harder into "Thank God for pearl harbor" Churchill was the main guy behind the failed Gallipoli invasion. He was fired for it and if not for WW2 it would have ended his career Your knowledge is extremely impressive! Really enjoyed the reaction 👍
While I like the "your whole country is the size of one state", as its true when talking about the geographic extent of mainland UK, but technically both in 1900 and in 1940, Great Britain ruled a larger area of land than the U.S, or any other country for that matter. At the time it was second biggest empire ever, only beaten in geographical width by the Mongol Empire. Its still a very nice bar tho in the context of this battle
How many millions upon millions of Australians did Winston get killed in Gallipoli while telling them to "Just run at the machine guns" basically? That's some Nanjing levels of evil that always isn't talked about.
"What's up bitches!" was a running gag for ERB. The announcement videos between seasons or parts of seasons where they'd announce the schedule of next videos was always hosted by Teddy Roosevelt, who started the videos that way
I really enjoy your channel and breakdowns of these battles. It's a rare day that I think I can offer something you missed. When Roosevelt referenced hiding in the tube, during the Blitzkrieg the people used their subways as impromptu bomb shelters. Love your channel, keep it up.
The woman Churchill roasted was Lady Nancy Astor. She also told him, "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your drink" to which he responded, "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."
When it comes to Theodore Roosevelts assassination attempt you say that the potential assassin was afraid that Theodore would run for a 3rd term. From my understanding, Theodore Roosevelt had served 1 full term and about 3 years of his first term (became president after Mckinley was assassinated) and when Roosevelt was shot it was actually when Taft was president and Roosevelt was running again because he was not satisfied with Tafts more moderate/conservative first term.
The U.S. state closest in size to England in terms of square miles is Alabama. The total land area of England is slightly more than 50,500 square miles. Alabama is only slightly larger at 50,700 square miles in size.
In fact Germany would have lost anyway without American military action. Russia was Beating the germans on the Eastern front. Yes forces on the western front could have been sent to the east. but they were mostly fresh recruits who had never seen any battle. The veterans already were in the East.
Do-si-do is a square-dancing maneuver where partners circle each other without changing their facing, possibly implying Churchill would be particularly bad at boxing footwork.
Japan attacked the USA, more than that the fleet of the USA to keep them from intervening in the japans pacific expansion, wich they needed to do after the US Oil embargoed them and in the end forced the japanese hand to act while they still had those vital resources. The Oil Embargo happened tho, because of the second sino - Japanese war 1937 and japanes annexation of french indochina.
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The EpicLoyd line was actually the second wall break, the first one was the first line ."Bully I love competition " it refers to Dan Bull the actor playing Churchill,
Third. When Roosevelt says "What's up bitches?" it is a reference to his catchphrase as the ERB mascot that they would use for announcement videos in between seasons.
Actually, the "Bully!" expression was one Roosevelt was known to use a lot. It's essentially "Hooray!".
oh snap you little fun fact too the guy that's playing Winston Churchill is in another rap battle he's Jack the Ripper version Hannibal Lecter really good ripped in a way funny way witch his the bomb like much respect✌👍🇬🇧
@@AtomicZn yeah Bully was an old timey slang for sure
Wrong. Teddy Roosevelt was well known for using the line, "Bully!" Try again.
The Gallipoli line is actually a reference to his failed operation trying to take Gallipoli. It costs a lot of British lives
I think the line is more referring to the fact that he was fairly careless with the lives of the commonwealth countries and poorer footsoldiers from Britain. It wasn't just a failed campaign, but British commanders ordered ludicrous charges and told troops to hold ground in suicidal stands that needlessly cost thousands of lives. The thought was as long as they won, the number of grunts dying was irrelevent. Churchill thought it'd all go easily if they rushed in, but it was all so poorly managed that they were failing everywhere and just believing in their past glory that they'd win eventually because they were British commanders.
@@Bobsyagod yea but he request a ton of soldiers they said no, and he went anyways. Gallipoli then followed him for the rest of his life.
@@williammotta150 Yeah with a ton more soldiers and a plan they'd have taken it. Not going since they didn't have the numbers would've been ok too. Going anyway was just suicidal, but only for the soldiers, not the commanders.
It was more then british soldiers , Australia and other countries as well
many australian and new zealander soldiers died as well hence why us australians and new zealanders celebrate anzac day which stands for the australian and new zealand army corps.
"The Big Stick" refers to a lot of things... it was TRs foreign policy: "speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." And it's the nick name of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt.
I thought it was just a sloppy toppy joke
@@lunaticgaming3996 well it's both...
3:17 The "what's up bitches" is a reference to something they used to do in the past. They would have updates that started with Roosevelt saying that (also why only his mouth is moving there because that was the style) Here's an example of that in the first 3 seconds: th-cam.com/video/AxOVW2CNw7Q/w-d-xo.html
This was also a reference of DMX. Ruff Ryders and Whats Up Bitches was either a song, or a known part of one of his songs.
@@ryanmoore4003 Nice pull!
The tube in Britain is the underground train or subway. During the German Blitz of the UK and especially London people would hide in the subways since they were built pretty well.
Tube could also be used for the tube alloys,which lead to the Manhattan project
Also Churchill had an underground bunker which served as the HQ during the blitz.
London people we are called londeners my good sir
mmmmmmm Chube
I think Teddy won too.
Churchill's last line "we shall never surrender" is from the same speech he mentioned earlier. "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."
I love the ending where you see the light reflections in the clouded sky and bombs going down. It feels like the end times while the rap battle ends
I get chills reading those words let alone hearing them
I think neither won.
This battle is the musical incarnation of
*Unstoppable force vs. Immovable Object*
Which characterizes these two perfectly.
I think I’ll always remember part of that speech because of the music video for _Aces High_ by Iron Maiden opens with it.
The "look at that mug" line could also be considered a double because Winston was nicknamed the British Bulldog. And Mug is a root beer brand with a Bulldog as a symbol.
Yup that's the first line reference as well, "bully! A challenge! I love competition" was a double or triple, referrers to his nick name, his busting and e.t.c
@@attoboi9763 - He was the leader of the Bull Moose Party.
Fun fact: Winston Churchill was half American. His mother was Jennie Jerome, a beautiful American heiress. During the "Gilded Age", it was quite common for rich American business tycoons to marry their daughters off to British aristocracy. It was mutually beneficial, as the aristocrats were usually broke and needed their brides' dowries, and in return the brides got titles and prestige.
TIL thank you
It’s pretty much what happened in Downton Abbey, with the previous Lord Grantham (who was impoverished) marrying his son to the daughter of an American dry goods magnate
@@artembentsionov Exactly. I remember Robert admitting to Cora that he didn't fall in love with her until after they were married. :-)
@@kck9742 yeah, it was clearly an arranged marriage that actually had a happy outcome
I mean, America is the offspring of England
The Two Fingers extended (as a form of obscene gesture) comes from the medieval days! During that time, the yew bows that English archers used were capable of puncturing platemail armor, and were therefore regarded as incredibly dangerous weapons, so whenever their enemies (particularly the French) captured English archers, they would cut off the fingers that they used to draw the bowstring. So, as a result, the index and middle finger extended in a V was used as a taunt by archers against their enemies, as if to say "Yeah, we still have these! You're screwed!"
huh, thats interesting, so in a way, showing the middle finger to someone is practically telling them you are gonna shoot them lol
@@vanity1180 Eh, the story hasn't been verified as true, it's one of those myths that gets passed down. Maybe a bit of truth in it, but no one's really sure.
Sorry to ruin your comment but at best historically that's a theory that can't realistically be proven
@@archfiend221 *Sad Walter White.*
First time that story appeared wasn’t until the late Victorian period
6:30 actually Alabama is the closest state in size to England. Alabama is roughly 52,000 square miles, while England is about 50,000 square miles. The entire UK is about 93,000 square miles which is bigger than Idaho but smaller than Oregon. I just learned that in my geography class, and it’s crazy
During Churchill's era, England wasn't separate. In fact, it was Great Britain (or UK?) for centuries already. Only the Republic of Ireland separated from Great Britain in 1920/1921. The rest had been a union all along.
"The tube" is British slang for the subway. During the blitzkrieg people would take cover in the subway system.
We, the USA, were in the midst of peace talks with Japan when the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor occurred. The reason it caused such outrage as to change the opinions of an entire nation is because it had required the Japanese fleet to begin traveling in secret before the talks had even started indicating Japan was never interested in sueing for peace and their diplomats were meant to keep us vulnerable instead of preparing for war.
Not to nitpick, but I think you meant to refer to FDR, not Teddy. Teddy died in 1919. :-)
@@kck9742You're right! I regularly attribute that fact to the wrong Roosevelt. Thanks for reminding me. I'll remove that from my comment.
@@TheZoenGaming LOL, no problem. It makes sense to get them confused because FDR was contemporary of Winston Churchill.
@@kck9742 LOL I mean that I *ALWAYS* say that about Teddy instead of FDR. It's weird because it's the only factoid that I switch up between them.
Yup, if I remember correctly even the Japanese diplomats that were sent didn't know about the surprise attack that was planned. It is very possible that they were lying, but also it is possible that there were inner political conflicts and it was a way to get rid of the ones that were sent for peace talks (all speculation). Only supporting evidence is that there were conflicts between the military branches of Japan. th-cam.com/video/N1L9J6D-ggE/w-d-xo.html again I have not checked to see if that video is 100% correct.
I was watching a reactor do Stephen King vs. Poe, going "Ohhhh!" to every bar, then at the end saying "Wait, which one was Stephen King?". After that, it renewed my appreciation for your ERB breakdowns, haha.
WC is also “water closet” and deuce would refer to defecating as well. Essentially TR was saying he was going to crap all over Churchill.
"I might be battling you even though I'm toasted..." - At one point at a diplomatic function a British Lady walked up to Churchill and said something like "You, sir, are drunk!" He replied with "I might be drunk, but you are, Madam, are ugly and in the morning I'll be sober but you'll still be ugly."
Churchill was the mastermind of the battle for Gallipoli and it's public advocate, so most blame him for the disaster that it was. I enjoy your breakdowns, have you thought of reacting to some sabaton songs?
The big thing about size is during the time of Winston Churchill, The UK owned many colonies all over meaning it was way bigger than described in the video but very accurate for the current time.
The fitness bar was actually a triple that no one seems to catch. Panama, his childhood, and fitting his you know.
This is actually a quad. Roosevelt also started the "Presidential Fitness Test" they do in Elementary schools to promote fitness.
@@Revenon I forgot about that one because I was probably taught that fact under duress during the test
I think another meaning to full deuce was that he was a boxer, and he would "give him the old one-two", a jab and a straight punch.
I also read that line as unloading the deuce-deuce aka .22 caliber. Its a small round but still extremely popular and accurate. I might be wrong lol
Also, WC is British for bathroom (water closet), so the full deuce is a number 2. That’s why Winston responds with “Whatever shit you throw at me, I’ll just return to sender.”
Full duece could have been using both barrels of a shot gun completely unloading on Churchill
also the full deuce, as in the full number 2, as in the full second round of the battle.
@@Bobal27 Came here to say this.
Dropping a deuce is poop. WC is Water Closet, Teddy is saying he'll poop on him.
Part of the irony in the "while I wake up every day and chain smoke cigars" line is that Theodore Roosevelt was actually prescribed whiskey and cigars as a treatment for his asthma.
Lol doesn't seem like a fitting cure, for me.
@@gabrielesolletico6542yeah they were wild times in medicine
The Alabama comparison is actually way closer than you think. Though it isn't true for the whole of the UK, England itself is only 50k square miles. Alabama is 52.
After he got shot, Teddy said “I am as fit as a bull moose”, then named his party after the infamous quote. Great own by Teddy
"The full Deuce" is also a play on the gun/bullet scheme as to it alludes to a double-barrel shotgun, you give them both barrels - "the full deuce."
MrLboyd your switching up on the time frame .. all good 👍 ... Best reaction channel on TH-cam .
The hide in your tube part is because in WWII, the underground train stations (the tube, as the british called it) were used as bomb shelters for the people.
One thing you seemed confused on - and for good reason, it's obscure - Is the "what's up bitches" line early on in the first verse. Back when ERB was regularly putting out content, in between seasons they would put out a short "when is the next season starting" video. In those videos, the bust of Roosevelt would present the information in a silly, over the top way, with it's mouth moving like a nutcracker. If you look closely, when Lloyd says "what's up bitches", his mouth is animated in the same way, speaking with his over-the-top Roosevelt voice. It's literally a throwback/easter egg to ERB's own videos.
Interestingly, the fact that Teddy knew enough first aid to know that he was stable after being shot and because he stayed and demanded that "no harm shall come" to John Flamming Schrank who has just shot Roosevelt, Schrank's life was saved. Many agree that he would have lynched by the Roosevelt supporters before the police could apprehend him. Schrank was born in Bavaria and immigrated to the US at age 5. By age 9 he had lost both parents and went to live with his wealthy aunt and uncle. At some point in his young adult years they both died leaving him a considerable amount of money and lots of property. About this time his girlfriend and only love in life died in a boating accident. He abruptly sold the properties and possessions and wandered the East Coast, drifting town to town. He never caused any legal trouble however he would engage in lively religious debates with locals which could rifle some feathers from time to time. Prior to his trial Schrank was declared insane as he had told authorities that President McKinley, for whom Roosevelt served as VP, had appeared in a dream and demanded that Schrank avenge McKinley's assassination by killing Roosevelt. Schrank lived in an asylum until his death in 1943- 31 years after the shooting.
Toe to Toe, Do-Si-Do, 12 step program. Those are all shots at that Winston needed a wheelchair.
I had no idea Winston Churchill needed a wheelchair.
@@EiferBrennan Towards the end of his life he had a series of strokes which made walking difficult.
Also boxing trainers often uses “dancing” terminology for technical/evasive techniques and footwork. You’d be surprised how many boxers take dancing classes to improve footwork and timing. I was one... but I’m still a trash dancer lol
the 12 step program I thought was a diss at his alcohol consumption. Like the anti alcoholics have a 5(?) step program for rehab right?
@@6666Imperator It is, but later in life he needed a wheelchair so the diss works on multiple levels.
Good reaction video, just to add some additional unpacking of the lyrics here:
Yes to the underground bunker, Churchill had secret sections of the London Tube network which were used as a bunker, but also as a base of operations to organise Britain's defenses, especially during the battle of Britain.
Also full deuce is a reference to both the two fingered salute, but also deuce being slang for poo. Essentially calling Churchill a toilet he is about to take a dump on.
This then ties in with the line "Whatever shit you throw at me, I'll just return to sender".
I appreciate that I get a history lesson with these ERB reactions. It’s just enough to be interesting, not too much to be annoying
I had to google it cause I want to know now, the UK is closest in size to Oregon(though the UK is a little bit smaller than Oregon), and as an Australian I’m obligated to include the fact that the UK would fit into Queensland about 7 times :)
also talking about England, Great Britain, United Kingdom or the Commonwealth? All have different sizes :D
@@6666Imperator I’m fairly sure the stat is for the whole United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland, so i don’t think it includes the rest of the ROI
@@dylanshandley1246 true I meant it more as a side/fun fact. I think you are correct with UK
By chance, do you watch Teacher Eddie? You and he have such a passion for history, and although ERB teaches me things about history I didn't know, you and Teacher Eddie give breakdowns to these that reveal even MORE, and it's amazing.
He earned the Medal of Honor for the Battle of San Juan Hill. Also Bully is a reference to the Bully pulpit idea that Theodore had.
Brits hid in the subway tunnels during bomb raids. Also Churchill did everything he could do dodge the draft during ww1. Teddy Roosevelt also helped create the boy scouts
Thank you for helping me understand rap!
Genuinely, thank you
12:23 the choke hard also is a double meaning in rap battling if you fail at rapping and start short-circuiting and you don’t speak at all you “choke”
A few notes and corrections off the top of my head:
You seem to confuse Teddy Roosevelt with FDR a few times. Teddy was president about 30 years before Hitler's rise to power (early to mid 1900s), so that skews some of the timeline a bit. For example when Churchill points out that he was fighting Nazis while TR was opening parks he's comparing how difficult their jobs were, not saying that Teddy was ignoring the Nazis. World War 1 didn't start until Teddy was already out of office, much less World War 2. Essentially the line is just "You had it easy, I had a much harder task."
This was a response to Teddy's earlier line about running a country much larger than England. He was being hyperbolic comparing England to the size of a state. It doesn't matter which state, Teddy's just saying "I had a ton more responsibility running this huge country than you do running this one tiny fraction of what I was in charge of."
Also: Japan didn't attack Pearl Harbor because we were selling arms to England. They attacked because they were in the process of greatly expanding their territory. As they island hopped across the Pacific they were very aware that at some point America might just say "Enough!" when they got too close to American territory and push back. They waited as long as they could then attacked Pearl Harbor as a preemptive strike to cripple our ability to fight back before attempting to take American territory.
The part you're thinking of with America giving arms to England was called the Lend-Lease program. FDR couldn't justify throwing America into WWII without good reason because WWI had just wrapped up a few years prior and Americans wanted nothing to do with another European war. Huge populations of Americans were also German descendants and immigrants. The public will to fight just wasn't there. Instead, FDR made a deal with England to supply them. This way America could help without sending over troops. Essentially FDR said "Take all these munitions and hardware. Pay us for what you can, give us an IOU for what you can't and we'll just say you're borrowing our stuff."
You are correct about Teddy's wife and mother dying close together. Specifically, they died within 24 hours of each other in the same house. Teddy's mother succumbed to illness and his wife died in childbirth. Famously, his journal entry for that day was just a big black X and the single line "The light has gone out of my life."
As a bit of a side note on this episode: Your insight on a lot of things is really good, but you do sometimes seem to miss the forest for the trees. Not every line about Churchill's face is going to be a subtle dig about how Teddy is on a mountain and Churchill isn't. Maybe he's just calling the guy ugly.
Also for me the line where TR won it was when he pointed out that Churchill's parents abandoned him. Up to that point, Churchill's strongest line was the dig at how Roosevelt's family died young. Roosevelt then took that line and immediately spun it around. "Yeah, my family died, but they didn't have a choice in that. Yours did and they abandoned you anyway." Boom. Done. Battle over.
If you get a chance, check out the Ken Burns PBS documentary called "The Roosevelts". It's excellent and tells the history of their family, with most of the emphasis on Teddy, FDR, Alice and Eleanore Roosevelt.
Alice was a proper spitfire. Teddy was known for saying “I can do one of two things. I can be President of the United States or I can control Alice Roosevelt. I cannot possibly do both.”
bro wrote a whole essay
In some ways Japan knew they where fight a losing war and that the US after beating other country's would then send in aid. So i think they were hope that would happen. They just could not imagine the response we would give.
Yes, the tube is the British version of a "subway". And yes, many times during the blitz people would hide in them. They were designated shelter areas. My grandmother on my father's side lived in London during WW2 and was a teenage volunteer air raid warden. I heard more than one story about her experiences when I was a wide-eyed kid. Running through the streets as bombs exploded around her. Her neighbours house was completely demolished by a bomb at one point. She suffered from bad PTSD and a certain level of dementia in the last year or so of her life. She would have random panic attacks and claim that the Germans were here, seemingly reliving her past trauma and memories. I remember once when I visited her as a kid I was wearing a shirt from an army disposal store that just happened to have the German flag stitched onto one shoulder. I guess it was an old German army shirt. She didn't really make a fuss but I remember my parents telling me that it had really stressed her out and asking me to step outside the nursing home for a while so she wouldn't see it. As a 12 year old kid I didn't didn't really grasp the gravity of the situation and thought it was kind of funny. Looking back now I realise that she probably had seen horrible things as a result of the Blitz and that any reminder of those days probably really affected her in a major way. That particular visit ended up being the last time I ever saw her conscious, as not long afterwards she slipped into a coma and passed away. I still feel bad for wearing that shirt the last time I saw her. If I could wear anything else in hindsight, I would.
Her father also served in the trenches of WW1 and was a dispatch rider for a while before being wounded by mustard gas, so I'm sure she'd heard plenty of stories about Germans in her own childhood, let alone her own experiences as a teenager during WW2 living in one of the most bombed cities of the war.
It was a touchy subject. Knowing people that lived through those times really makes it feel a whole lot more personal in some weird way. It becomes more than history written down in a book, or shown in a movie. It becomes real. That might sound strange to some people, but if you know, you know.
I'm Australian, but my family has a pretty close connection to England through my grandmother. She was an amazing person, and I wish I could've known her as an adult and spoken to her with the knowledge I now have.
Love these videos!
The WC line is also a reference to the Flying Deuce with WC Fields
Also, it should be noted that tensions were high between the US and Japan for a long time before Pearl Harbor. Both countries were heading for a war before WW2 started.
I looked it up, England is smaller Arizona, California, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, and Wyoming. Michigan and England are nearly the same size in area (Michigan is slightly larger).
React to Civilization Rap by Dan Bull! ( The guy who played Winston Churchill )
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@@tamasszucs1928 that's a really good one too
I am binge watching you react to ERB so I can learn about history and other references. I used to watch these as a kid and I just thought they sounded good but as I’m 21 years old now and watching them through with you teaches me so much I did t know and it’s really entertaining. Keep up the great work, really like your break downs and analyses of these songs!
Edit: I’m Swedish so my American history is not that great so getting a lecture about America from (what I would say) a very smart and articulate American is very interesting and eye opening :)
No the winning bar was "A bullet can't stop the bill moose" walking away from the gunshot
Churchill lasted 30 more years of life chain smoking and binge drinking is absolute madness.
17:50 you forgot the offeres those things at a heavily marked up price and the entire reason Anglo / Japanese relations broke down was America being heavily against the racial equality proposal after WW1.
Teddy Roosevelt learned the saying of " talk softly and carry a big stick " from a swahelli aide in africa when he was hunting in Africa
Have you read, "Why England Slept", a paper by John F. Kennedy?
JFK wrote it when his father Joe Sr. was the American ambassador to England before WW2. Its an interesting POV and it does give some context to the surrounding leaders of the time.
Full deuce: Churchill intended to give the sign for victory, but accidentally gave the sign for the “full deuce”.
The what's up b***hes line is a reference to the channel updates they would release. It's a photo of teddy roosevelt narrating all the stuff they announce.
You never cease to amaze me with your vast knowledge.
The U.S. state closest in size to England in terms of square miles is Alabama. The total land area of England is slightly more than 50,300 square miles. Alabama is only slightly larger at 50,700 square miles in size. Personally, I say Theodore won.
When Churchill learned of pearl harbor, one of his quotes was his confidence that the allies would win. Churchill explains his feelings that evening, beginning with, “No American will think it wrong of me if I proclaim that to have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. I could not foretell the course of events. I do not pretend to have measured the marshall might of Japan, but now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!”
It might also be a reference to the "ma deuce" or M2, a heavy calibre machine gun which played an important part in WWII, (and basically every other conflict America has been in since.)
16:20 - the "tube" is a nickname the London underground railway system, which (being underground and all) was used as impromptu bomb sheltering for residents of London during the blitz bombings by the luftwaffe in WW2
Thank God for Pearl Harbor was a line WC couldn't recover from.
A full deuce might also be reference to the double-tap that our operatives are trained to do when the aim is to kill.
"Teddy had more bars" Yes literally, I think both of TR's rounds were significantly longer than WC's were... Another small reference you might have have missed if you haven't been following ERB from their early days, Teddy yelling "WHAT'S UP B!TCHES!" is a bit of an inside joke.
Because ERB used the image of TR and used him as a sort of announcer of news and upcoming projects and that was his standard catchphrase.
As to America's involvement in WWII, initially the US was fine sitting this war out without being directly involved. The provided goods, arms, etc. but were content to leave it at that.
And while America's involvement was incredible helpful in the European campaign and the effort and sacrifices those American soldiers made should never be forgotten, the war would most likely been won by the allies, even without America's involvement. Though who knows how long that would have taken.
love these videos! i watch my boy scru face jean for the rap breakdown while i watch you for the literal breakdown
Thank you for this reaction sir, funnily enough i watched some ERB reactions of yours last weekend and was thinking you would like this one. And now you're already reacting to it.
I feel quite lucky.
17:25
I am American, and you are American.
Me, Sitting in my room in Canada: uhh... well i got something to tell you.
I can't wait for you to do Dan Bull Civilization rap. Great stuff here.
He said that Teddy was a boyscout, because he was a ardent booster for the boyscouts of America.
Edger Allen Poe V Stephen King is a must
I love this one! Another one I love with Dan Bull in it is Jack the Ripper vs Hannibal Lecter. You would love that one man, you should definitely check it out!
I guess ERB should have added a tooltip to the glasses. he LITERALLY nudges them off as he says it. so for one reactor to not know what the word means to another feeling the need to explain what they are...the world is weird...
UK is the same size as Alabama, population wise I think it is near California. the big stick was the American diplomatic thinking try to talk things out but have the military power back those words up. the Japanize attack was caused by American embargos on supplies they needed and the need to clear other powers from its areas. they hoped that fast hard attack would bring the USA to the table to avoid war. full deuce maybe 1-2 combo punch or the US 50 cal is known as ma deuce so TR had the big guns.
Lmao, japanize.
You have to consider that, at the time, America was not considered the world power it is now. We helped out in WWI, but not a superlative amount or anything, and we were in the tail end of the Great Depression when WWII broke out. And we actually weren't as necessary as our history books like to think. Germany did themselves in when they turned on Russia and invaded. We just sped things up a bit.
Speeding up things did save many lives though. Not saying we were essential in winning but we did help save lives with a quicker end. And as they say history is written by the winners
I hope to see someone mention Dis Raps for Hire.
I love Dan Bull who played Winston. Definitely check out his other content. He's hilarious. Just like Stupendium and JT Music (among others).
16:25 many British people hid from the Blitz in tube (underground train) tunnels and stations
Lol again I’m one of your Canadian viewers. I find it funny every time you say “we’re American so you know what I’m saying” as a Canadian viewer I always laugh when you forget to mention your Canadian viewers who know what you are talking about. You are still a very knowledgeable person I enjoy when explain or confirm the facts in the ERB videos
Churchill has most epic historical speech in WW2 era!
Bro he is breaking down every word like…if u watched it you’d probably get the meaning in the next line instead of just pausing for every sentence
I think the spruce mustache was a double entendre as so 1 grow a bushy mustache 2 spruce being a type of pine tree and Theodore was known for making national parks to preserve wildlife and forests.
The production level on this battle is bonkers. Sooo much detail in the background.
I have been waiting for this one! This was one of my favorites
I think this is my closest battle in all of ERB. There's a few more that are close for me too, but this one is rough, though I gotta go with my boy Teddy.
Fun Fact Teddy's favorite drink was the Cuba Libre = Cuban rum + Cola syrup + soda water + lime juice. It's quite fantastic if you ever get a chance to have Cuban Rum or a blended recreation that is close. After his Presidency, Roosevelt served as a Scout Leader in Oyster Bay, NY of Troop 39 and first Commissioner of Nassau County Council. He was heavily involved in both Boy Scout and Girl Scouts of America. Later he was elected Honorary Vice President of the Boy Scouts, and first and only Chief Scout Citizen. The Boy Scouts still lay wreaths as Roosevelts grave and he's the only person with a Medal from the Boy Scouts named after him
if you just go on land mass, the UK is about the size of Oregon. so not as little as Alabama, but still very small in comparison.
"I'm dropping bombs while your hiding in a tube".
In WW2 the Germans were bombing the crap out of England so Churchill spent most nights in a bomb shelter.
"Keep calm and carry on"
This slogan was intended to encourage the British people to continue to fight even if the government surrendered. Which was a very real possibility. So it was basically a call to carry out terrorist attacks after the Germans successfully invaded. The fact that this was something they were prepping their people for says a lot and plays even harder into
"Thank God for pearl harbor"
Churchill was the main guy behind the failed Gallipoli invasion. He was fired for it and if not for WW2 it would have ended his career
Your knowledge is extremely impressive! Really enjoyed the reaction 👍
While I like the "your whole country is the size of one state", as its true when talking about the geographic extent of mainland UK, but technically both in 1900 and in 1940, Great Britain ruled a larger area of land than the U.S, or any other country for that matter. At the time it was second biggest empire ever, only beaten in geographical width by the Mongol Empire.
Its still a very nice bar tho in the context of this battle
How many millions upon millions of Australians did Winston get killed in Gallipoli while telling them to "Just run at the machine guns" basically? That's some Nanjing levels of evil that always isn't talked about.
a duece in spades is higher in points because its wild
You have a great amount of knowledge from a huge range of topics. Very impressive sir!!
"Acost you thoroughly!" Amazing!!
"What's up bitches!" was a running gag for ERB. The announcement videos between seasons or parts of seasons where they'd announce the schedule of next videos was always hosted by Teddy Roosevelt, who started the videos that way
“I have a big stick.”
That’s gonna be taken out of context
I really enjoy your channel and breakdowns of these battles. It's a rare day that I think I can offer something you missed. When Roosevelt referenced hiding in the tube, during the Blitzkrieg the people used their subways as impromptu bomb shelters. Love your channel, keep it up.
Churchill wasn’t prime minister when WWII started, Neville Chamberlain was.
The woman Churchill roasted was Lady Nancy Astor. She also told him, "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your drink" to which he responded, "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."
When it comes to Theodore Roosevelts assassination attempt you say that the potential assassin was afraid that Theodore would run for a 3rd term. From my understanding, Theodore Roosevelt had served 1 full term and about 3 years of his first term (became president after Mckinley was assassinated) and when Roosevelt was shot it was actually when Taft was president and Roosevelt was running again because he was not satisfied with Tafts more moderate/conservative first term.
FDR and TR were distant cousins and FDR's wife was TR's niece
I think you would really enjoy Dr Freud vs Mother Teresa! Great job as always sir 👏👏👏
The U.S. state closest in size to England in terms of square miles is Alabama. The total land area of England is slightly more than 50,500 square miles. Alabama is only slightly larger at 50,700 square miles in size.
In fact Germany would have lost anyway without American military action. Russia was Beating the germans on the Eastern front. Yes forces on the western front could have been sent to the east. but they were mostly fresh recruits who had never seen any battle. The veterans already were in the East.
Do-si-do is a square-dancing maneuver where partners circle each other without changing their facing, possibly implying Churchill would be particularly bad at boxing footwork.
Alabama is actually larger than England by 2000 sq miles
Japan attacked the USA, more than that the fleet of the USA to keep them from intervening in the japans pacific expansion, wich they needed to do after the US Oil embargoed them and in the end forced the japanese hand to act while they still had those vital resources. The Oil Embargo happened tho, because of the second sino - Japanese war 1937 and japanes annexation of french indochina.
I would enjoy a conversation about interpretation of history with you man. You did your research and research equals respect.
This is one of the ERB's I could really see going either way, but I also gave Teddy the slight nod.
Deadpool vs boba fett, all the 4th wall breaking you can handle