You're going to love this one! Here are the timestamps for those that don't want the added important info:) 0:00 - Intro 2:21 - What is the clock drill 4:35 Step 1 5:56 Step 2 7:58 Step 3 10:24 Final Thoughts
Geeez. I have been playing around with how much to have the club leaned at the top of the backswing and in transition for years. It’s been so frustrating not having any idea where it should be. I haven’t seen anyone explain it so simply. You have once again come through with something I’ve never heard before. Amazing. Thank you. Jas, that was more like 1:05 and 32 seconds. Cmon man, button it up.
I’ll let him know you’ve got a close watch on him. Thanks for the great comment Jason. Hope your progress is still moving in the forward direction. Looking forward to seeing the next update.
Just brilliant - Question: What is the correct feeling in the right wrist when doing this, I have been working on Pete Cowen style right hand seriously cupped in the backswing and violent right arm extension to start the downswing. Combination of these two concepts is mentally challenging (for me - but not for all I suppose :-)) EDIT: You have the right arm and wrist covered in older videos - sorry, I get over-active when I get excited..
No worries at all. I love to answer questions that could help you get to where you want to go. Glad I covered it in other videos and you found the answer you were looking for. Please never hesitate to ask questions along the way.
Incredible . Brilliant. Ive been trying to DIY this myself over the last couple of years but have found sequencing / timing impossible. I picked up from your video (wrongly?) that "Dropping" from 1 to 2 o'clock is at the top - BEFORE the downswing/transition. My own previous attempts have been trying to have this move combined WITH the pull-down/transition. However, other than your clear initial explanation that it occurs at the top FIRST, every time your partner demonstrates, there is NO clear initial separate move to from 1 to 2 o-clock at the top. It seems to be buried somewhere as part of the downswing (or blurred in the transition). This confusion is what always knocked out my timing of the whole swing to impact. when trying to incorporate this. Please help to identify which it is - I thought you gave the clear indication that the 1 to 2 o'clock move was SEPARATE at the top, but then it seems to be clearly demonstrated not. Schaun
The move from 1-2 is going to look very pronounced when working to a static position. Remember, in the golf swing, we never hit positions, we move through them. This move from 1-2 happens when the body starts to shift to the lead side and change the direction of the golf swing. You want to start out by creating the feel at the top on its own. Then start doing it in movement. You won’t see nearly as much change in the pitch of the shaft if you do it dynamically. Just a subtle amount is all you’ll see even though with a device like hack motion, we can see the wrist would be changing a larger amount than the camera is showing us. Hope that helps answer the question. Let me know if you need further help with this.
@@MyGolfDNA Logical and clear answer - thanks. For the newer generation with low attention spans that you mention - dont let their carless attitudes stop your detailed explanations. Without the detail it becomes just another typical meaningless hints video, without any convincing justification or detailed explanation. To pander to them maybe just have a summary at the end (which also helps everyone). The rest of us can follow and evaluate the logical and detailed description - without rejecting a superficial only approach video. Schaun
Need more comments for this sort of drill. It's good stuff, though I think another channel said I could fix my golf swing with just "one simple change." Lifting my toes or something like that. Should I combine that with this? Seriously though, I think I do a lot of this at the moment, except for the "relax the club to two o'clock at the top." Can you tell us more why that is important? Also, at 8:19, at the impact position, Jason's hands have come down low and close to his body, so much so that there is an angle the arms and the shaft. The arms and the shaft are not at 180 degrees, or a straight line, but they are more like 170 degrees, so a slight angle between the arms and the shaft. I think there is much more intention to this aspect of impact than is typically talked about. Can you elaborate on that sometime?
This is NOT a simple change and has to be married back to the big system of movements (in good sequence) for it to be truly effective. I feel like I explained in the video what we see in wrist patterns on the way down, maybe I didn't. I'll go back and doublecheck. The reason why that move is so important in the downward half is its allowing the plane to shallow, the club is being delofted and its allowing you to gradually supinate the wrist into delivery without the club getting crazy steep in front of the hands. If you were just to rotate the wrist from the top down, the club would get steep. We can see in ALL wrist patterns, that there is a movement on elite ball strikers that is common in the downswing, the lead wrist increases in flexion. That is what I want this drill to teach you. Is to "feel" how the club should work more naturally when you start changing the direction from a good position at the top of the swing. Hope that helps. I'm not sure I understand the other half of your question at this point, so I'll go back in the video and see if I can figure it out before I comment on it.
I’m absolutely loving this drill but I did have a quick question. Should my hands be as close to my body as his are? I feel like I’m standing to close or far from the ball at times.
When you start moving with a great deal of rotational force, your hands and arms will be further out away from you due to centrifugal force. If your setup is good and your sequence is good, physics will be a big help to you. Let me know if you need more info on this and I’ll gladly help you.
GREAT INFO however, my ever suffering A.D.D thinks im in the masters class out classed with info overload. The golfer in me is persevering , multiple rewinds and reviews. Keep giving, and ill give it my best! 300+ wrist rotations etc.
Take your time and work slowly. I would honestly love to show people a real practice session in a video of this nature and how long it should take to work through correctly. Only stack in pieces when you get proficient. Working step 1 for a a couple of weeks to get really good at it, is totally acceptable and exactly what I would advocate.
Is the falling at the top of the club head from 1 to 2 o'clock Chris pretty much the same time as the lead shoulder relaxes and drops? Looks like it to me but would not surprise me if I am wrong :) Still working on relaxing that lead shoulder being a natural movement .....but hitting the ball much better/further since I started relaxing/dropping that lead shoulder and the club is swinging more freely. Now really notice how much "harder work" but slower my swing feels when I tense up my lead shoulder.
It should be happening as the body gets shifted to the lead side and the lead shoulder begins to drop. It's incredibly dynamic and now most of the students can understand why I saved this for last in the mix. Well, there is one more to come (maybe). If have the proper arm functions and good sequence, this feel from the drill, if done right, will help you with stability in the clubface through the release as you wont need to help the club.
@MyGolfDNA okay...I am going back to continue working on the other drills and will come back to this later. Since I started the relaxing of the lead shoulder my hands have felt quieter through impact and my balls have been going straighter in general especially with driver.......which for the first time in my golfing life I just started hitting driver a bit over a month ago. Up until then 3 wood was my longest club in the bag. My bad shot is when I tense up the lead shoulder and swing my arms through impact rather than relax and let them be passive. Trying to make sure I do a practise swing like that before every shot when I play. I find the hundreds of reps and re watching your videos for little snippets of advice that I missed are the key to me progressing. Thanks again.
When i allownit to go to 2 oclock baturally and my arms fall to waist high, my club face is open and not toe down unless i manipulate my lead wrist. I cant get it close naturally. Am i doing something wrong??
If you have a weaker grip, you may need to add a small amount of lead wrist supination on the way down to land in the correct spot on step 2. A good way to do the drill is to get to the 1:00 position, Scrub to 2:00 on the way down and stop. See how open the face is and adjust it. Then add that feel in the downward half movement. Let me know if you have any further questions at all.
The video was out for like 1 hour when you said "no success". Take your time. I worked this drill with a student yesterday it it took us a full 2 hours before he got adapted to the change and start hitting scud missiles with his 6 iron. Maybe he will comment on the time it took us and the processes so you can hear it directly from a student.
@@MyGolfDNA I've been trying that for various reasons, including videos and lessons from you, for at least a month. I know I cannot fix everything all at once so things I'm working on are not always the same from session to session.
One of the things that will help your move specifically with a movement like this drill, would be to feel patient with the arms in transition. You tend to get on the gas with the right arm immediately as you’re shifting left which makes it really hard to shallow the downward half as I demonstrate in this video. If you all the arms to get sped up in the downward half by the hips, you’ll have time to allow these subtle, yet really important movements to occur.
Can you do a video for people WITH attention spans. I love the detail you go into but it’s always left short because it seems you always cater to the other audience
Absolutely!! We have decided that we’re focusing on our core audience and our core audience only moving forward. We know there are a lot of people out there that know this info is important to the process. Thank you for the feedback and hope you join us for more in the future.
It is simply not true that we need to understand why the movements occur before we learn how to do the movement. Actually, setting up feedback (running into something or avoiding hitting something) is the fastest way to learn the correct feels. Learn it at slower speeds and increase speed as mastery allows. This is the fastest way to learn well. Later on we can learn the whys and wherefores.
YOU can certainly take everything at face value if you choose. That will get a lot of students really working on the wrong things at the wrong time when it comes to golf. But hey, there's a place for left thumb tips and "magical" speed gaining solutions. I personally want my students to know what and why they are doing something and how it can affect their body over the long haul.
Lol. I can’t believe people are fighting Chris on this still. There are so many examples of being able to adjust correctly just by having the correct concept. It’s so silly to argue this take. Keep on keepin on Chris.
You're going to love this one! Here are the timestamps for those that don't want the added important info:)
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - What is the clock drill
4:35 Step 1
5:56 Step 2
7:58 Step 3
10:24 Final Thoughts
Geeez. I have been playing around with how much to have the club leaned at the top of the backswing and in transition for years. It’s been so frustrating not having any idea where it should be. I haven’t seen anyone explain it so simply. You have once again come through with something I’ve never heard before. Amazing. Thank you.
Jas, that was more like 1:05 and 32 seconds. Cmon man, button it up.
I’ll let him know you’ve got a close watch on him. Thanks for the great comment Jason. Hope your progress is still moving in the forward direction. Looking forward to seeing the next update.
Love this pump drill! Watched this video before going to sim and hit the cleanest crispiest shots I’ve hit all year! Thank you!
Love to hear this stuff. Thank you for sharing and glad you liked the drill. Keep it rolling.
Will come back to this later but as always good content that builds on the previous.
Good discipline and thank you very much for the support. I appreciate it more than you know:)
Started using the one o'clock drill and then relaxing to the two o'clock position.Thanks Chris this drill is amazing.
Welcome to the compression club my friend🤩! Glad you liked the drill and thank you for the support.
Just brilliant - Question: What is the correct feeling in the right wrist when doing this,
I have been working on Pete Cowen style right hand seriously cupped in the backswing and violent right arm extension to start the downswing. Combination of these two concepts is mentally challenging (for me - but not for all I suppose :-))
EDIT: You have the right arm and wrist covered in older videos - sorry, I get over-active when I get excited..
No worries at all. I love to answer questions that could help you get to where you want to go. Glad I covered it in other videos and you found the answer you were looking for. Please never hesitate to ask questions along the way.
Incredible . Brilliant. Ive been trying to DIY this myself over the last couple of years but have found sequencing / timing impossible. I picked up from your video (wrongly?) that "Dropping" from 1 to 2 o'clock is at the top - BEFORE the downswing/transition. My own previous attempts have been trying to have this move combined WITH the pull-down/transition. However, other than your clear initial explanation that it occurs at the top FIRST, every time your partner demonstrates, there is NO clear initial separate move to from 1 to 2 o-clock at the top. It seems to be buried somewhere as part of the downswing (or blurred in the transition). This confusion is what always knocked out my timing of the whole swing to impact. when trying to incorporate this.
Please help to identify which it is - I thought you gave the clear indication that the 1 to 2 o'clock move was SEPARATE at the top, but then it seems to be clearly demonstrated not.
Schaun
The move from 1-2 is going to look very pronounced when working to a static position. Remember, in the golf swing, we never hit positions, we move through them. This move from 1-2 happens when the body starts to shift to the lead side and change the direction of the golf swing. You want to start out by creating the feel at the top on its own. Then start doing it in movement. You won’t see nearly as much change in the pitch of the shaft if you do it dynamically. Just a subtle amount is all you’ll see even though with a device like hack motion, we can see the wrist would be changing a larger amount than the camera is showing us. Hope that helps answer the question. Let me know if you need further help with this.
@@MyGolfDNA Logical and clear answer - thanks. For the newer generation with low attention spans that you mention - dont let their carless attitudes stop your detailed explanations. Without the detail it becomes just another typical meaningless hints video, without any convincing justification or detailed explanation. To pander to them maybe just have a summary at the end (which also helps everyone). The rest of us can follow and evaluate the logical and detailed description - without rejecting a superficial only approach video.
Schaun
Need more comments for this sort of drill. It's good stuff, though I think another channel said I could fix my golf swing with just "one simple change." Lifting my toes or something like that. Should I combine that with this? Seriously though, I think I do a lot of this at the moment, except for the "relax the club to two o'clock at the top." Can you tell us more why that is important? Also, at 8:19, at the impact position, Jason's hands have come down low and close to his body, so much so that there is an angle the arms and the shaft. The arms and the shaft are not at 180 degrees, or a straight line, but they are more like 170 degrees, so a slight angle between the arms and the shaft. I think there is much more intention to this aspect of impact than is typically talked about. Can you elaborate on that sometime?
This is NOT a simple change and has to be married back to the big system of movements (in good sequence) for it to be truly effective. I feel like I explained in the video what we see in wrist patterns on the way down, maybe I didn't. I'll go back and doublecheck. The reason why that move is so important in the downward half is its allowing the plane to shallow, the club is being delofted and its allowing you to gradually supinate the wrist into delivery without the club getting crazy steep in front of the hands. If you were just to rotate the wrist from the top down, the club would get steep. We can see in ALL wrist patterns, that there is a movement on elite ball strikers that is common in the downswing, the lead wrist increases in flexion. That is what I want this drill to teach you. Is to "feel" how the club should work more naturally when you start changing the direction from a good position at the top of the swing. Hope that helps. I'm not sure I understand the other half of your question at this point, so I'll go back in the video and see if I can figure it out before I comment on it.
I’m absolutely loving this drill but I did have a quick question. Should my hands be as close to my body as his are? I feel like I’m standing to close or far from the ball at times.
When you start moving with a great deal of rotational force, your hands and arms will be further out away from you due to centrifugal force. If your setup is good and your sequence is good, physics will be a big help to you. Let me know if you need more info on this and I’ll gladly help you.
GREAT INFO however, my ever suffering A.D.D thinks im in the masters class out classed with info overload. The golfer in me is persevering , multiple rewinds and reviews. Keep giving, and ill give it my best! 300+ wrist rotations etc.
Take your time and work slowly. I would honestly love to show people a real practice session in a video of this nature and how long it should take to work through correctly. Only stack in pieces when you get proficient. Working step 1 for a a couple of weeks to get really good at it, is totally acceptable and exactly what I would advocate.
Is the falling at the top of the club head from 1 to 2 o'clock Chris pretty much the same time as the lead shoulder relaxes and drops? Looks like it to me but would not surprise me if I am wrong :) Still working on relaxing that lead shoulder being a natural movement .....but hitting the ball much better/further since I started relaxing/dropping that lead shoulder and the club is swinging more freely. Now really notice how much "harder work" but slower my swing feels when I tense up my lead shoulder.
It should be happening as the body gets shifted to the lead side and the lead shoulder begins to drop. It's incredibly dynamic and now most of the students can understand why I saved this for last in the mix. Well, there is one more to come (maybe). If have the proper arm functions and good sequence, this feel from the drill, if done right, will help you with stability in the clubface through the release as you wont need to help the club.
@MyGolfDNA okay...I am going back to continue working on the other drills and will come back to this later. Since I started the relaxing of the lead shoulder my hands have felt quieter through impact and my balls have been going straighter in general especially with driver.......which for the first time in my golfing life I just started hitting driver a bit over a month ago. Up until then 3 wood was my longest club in the bag.
My bad shot is when I tense up the lead shoulder and swing my arms through impact rather than relax and let them be passive. Trying to make sure I do a practise swing like that before every shot when I play.
I find the hundreds of reps and re watching your videos for little snippets of advice that I missed are the key to me progressing. Thanks again.
When i allownit to go to 2 oclock baturally and my arms fall to waist high, my club face is open and not toe down unless i manipulate my lead wrist. I cant get it close naturally. Am i doing something wrong??
If you have a weaker grip, you may need to add a small amount of lead wrist supination on the way down to land in the correct spot on step 2. A good way to do the drill is to get to the 1:00 position, Scrub to 2:00 on the way down and stop. See how open the face is and adjust it. Then add that feel in the downward half movement. Let me know if you have any further questions at all.
When the clubs are in front of the right thigh and club horizontal to the ground, are the hip square or slightly open
Hips should be slightly open 15-20 degrees or so.
@@MyGolfDNA I've been trying that. Very difficult and no success so far. Please don't make it look easy. :)
The video was out for like 1 hour when you said "no success". Take your time. I worked this drill with a student yesterday it it took us a full 2 hours before he got adapted to the change and start hitting scud missiles with his 6 iron. Maybe he will comment on the time it took us and the processes so you can hear it directly from a student.
@@MyGolfDNA I've been trying that for various reasons, including videos and lessons from you, for at least a month. I know I cannot fix everything all at once so things I'm working on are not always the same from session to session.
One of the things that will help your move specifically with a movement like this drill, would be to feel patient with the arms in transition. You tend to get on the gas with the right arm immediately as you’re shifting left which makes it really hard to shallow the downward half as I demonstrate in this video. If you all the arms to get sped up in the downward half by the hips, you’ll have time to allow these subtle, yet really important movements to occur.
Can you do a video for people WITH attention spans. I love the detail you go into but it’s always left short because it seems you always cater to the other audience
Absolutely!! We have decided that we’re focusing on our core audience and our core audience only moving forward. We know there are a lot of people out there that know this info is important to the process. Thank you for the feedback and hope you join us for more in the future.
It is simply not true that we need to understand why the movements occur before we learn how to do the movement. Actually, setting up feedback (running into something or avoiding hitting something) is the fastest way to learn the correct feels. Learn it at slower speeds and increase speed as mastery allows. This is the fastest way to learn well. Later on we can learn the whys and wherefores.
YOU can certainly take everything at face value if you choose. That will get a lot of students really working on the wrong things at the wrong time when it comes to golf. But hey, there's a place for left thumb tips and "magical" speed gaining solutions. I personally want my students to know what and why they are doing something and how it can affect their body over the long haul.
Lol. I can’t believe people are fighting Chris on this still. There are so many examples of being able to adjust correctly just by having the correct concept. It’s so silly to argue this take. Keep on keepin on Chris.