The Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on Homosexuality #2357 the last line in that paragraph states,” Under no circumstances can they be approved.” 2358 third sentence in this, “They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and if Christians to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they May encounter from their condition. 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chasity. This book of the Catholic Church and more importantly the Bible are clear on this issue. Hope this helps some of you. Pray for this Pope.
By suggesting legalization of a “civil union” between same sex individuals, the Church would not have to deal with those who wished to request a way of “marriage,” for homosexuals, which the Church would never accept.
@@rosadebarriga1319 that means he is a coward. Don't beat around the bush on this. Let's tell the truth. The bible never says marriage is between a man and a woman. HOWEVER, there are no situations where marriage is described as being between same-sex partners, it is ALWAYS described as being between a man and a woman and even God thought it that way when he made Eve instead Erick. And same sex civil unions are what the bible is speaking about is romans chapter one, it is one of the things that causes the wrath of god to come.. So this man is a coward..
@@brotheresquire2776 The Holy Father is not a coward! Quite on the contrary. He has had the guts to fight for the legal rights of those living ostracized.
@@rosadebarriga1319 against the will of God. God said don't allow it from you , your nation nor strangers that live in your nation. What he said is wrong. He can't overrule the bible. He is supposed to enforce it. That is why Christ is the real head of the church not the pope. He is a coward. He could have said it is their right to be together but it is still against the will of God, but he didn't. And that makes him a coward.. I say what he won't on my channel on my latest show.. LGBTQ AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH. That chair is for the false prophet.
You have to look at our society in the current day. Civil unions are very rarely chaste. With this being said civil unions for same sex couples are an open door to temptation
What wonderful way of preaching the gospel! We have forgotten how chastity is crucial on our way to holiness: we were made for eternity! I congratulate you on this video! I will be praying for you!
Follow the teachings of The Church; and keep your Faith; nobody ought to confuse you. Translations are not always precise nor accurate or taken out of context. Ley de convivencia, unión civil or common law are terms used in the legal world and have nothing to do with the sacred marriage of the Church.
Why then does not the Holy Father clarify his statement and simply state clearly what Our Blessed Lord teaches and dispel the doubts? Many young people are still searching for answers and guidance, they have not yet reached full maturity in their faith. The Pope and the Magisterium is supposed to be the most reliable figure to go to when one wants to know what Christ teaches. But a number of times when we listen to what the Holy Father says we are left in the dark and baffled as to what it all means. And the sad thing is he does not clarify. May Our Lord bless and guide His Holiness and help us all to be charitable but also to speak the Truth in love.
The sad truth is that this pope is a modern-day Judas. His intention is to obfuscate and speak ambiguously so that he can slowly change church doctrine. He wants to make statements contrary to the faith, to confuse and mislead and then silently sit back and let nature take its course. He will not make any additional statements in order to clarify his comments. That would defeat his purpose, which is to destroy Church doctrine. If he feels forced to "clarify" he may make a statement that is just as obtuse as his original one. He is what is known as a modernist; he is a person who rejects divine revelation and thereby the immutable deposit of faith , of which he is supposed to be the steward. It is a horrible and wicked thing to intentionally mislead and to cause scandal to the little ones. But this is the pope we now have. My advice to all is to study the deposit of faith as promulgated prior to the Pope Francis pontificate.
Convivencia civil and civil unión is THE SAME THING. But Pope Francis is old enough to clear things up in a jiffy if he wants to. He has done it even to Cardinal Francis about Holy Mass at orientum. He has fired Cardinal Mueller with no explanations, and many times to others. But where is McKarrick now? Or James Martin for that matter! What you do tells more than what you say.
I think apologists need to consider that ambiguity in itself is a sin of omission. This ambiguity needs to be held to equal to actually stating an erroneous thing.
I'm with Archbishop Viganó, Bishop Athanasius, and others whom bravely have taken the position to confront Bergoglio's heresies, as well as all the mistakes made during this post counciliar era.
Playing the ambiguity card here seems far fetched... Catholics have to reject any legal recognition of homosexual couples. Pope calls for legal recognition (legal coverage) of homosexual couples. Unless the Pope was quoting something that catholics have to reject and the editor made it seem like it was something the Pope was affirming, then he is in clear error.
God bless you Jason 🙏🏻he has been a challenge for me to now he’s just a headache and that’s the honest truth all we get is confusion from Pope Francis and the Vatican
Hey i wanna say thank you for this video! I had just dismissed this whole event as a classic mistranslation issue, and I appreciate how you spoke more depth into it. ALSO thanks for bringing us the interview with Anna, that was so wholesome and uplifting!
Jason, Thanks for your desire to bring clarity to this important issue, which needs to be understood. The Catholic teaching is clear, but sadly these statements have "muddied the waters." Let's pray that the Vatican restates the position you shared written by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in 2003. Keep up the good work. I'm in Dublin and I was hoping to meet you last year. I hope you get a chance to visit Ireland soon. God bless, Bro. Gordon
Is Sex Without Marriage allowed by the Church? If not, why are there so many who live together without marriage? Does it mean the Clergy FAILED in emphasizing it to the members of the Church.
He said "convivencia civil" law. Literally, it means "civil coexistence law" or more literally, "civil living together law" and he was talking about it in the context of homosexuals. Same-sex civil unions are an error. The Church already condemned them. I don't see how the literal translation remotely helps makes this look any better at all. This is unacceptable. And what about the latest encyclical? The Freemasons were applauding it! The arch-enemy of the Catholic Church in modern times since the French Revolution. We need to wake up!
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/argentine-archbishop-and-pope-francis-advisor-says-civil-union-not-mistranslated-in-documentary-95995 oops, im pretty sure i'll believe one of his advisors before I believe some random guy who doesn't like gay people.
@@samuelrincon4407 That article doesn't say what Pope Francis meant. It only says what that Argentine priest thinks he meant, which means nothing. You are accusing me of something I am not guilty of. If, based off of the information I have provided here, you have rashly judged me as not liking people with same-sex attraction, then you are accusing the ordinary Magesterium of the Church of also not liking people with same-sex attraction; I have merely stated the magesterial teaching that civil unions for same-sex people cannot be approved. I have not given hate for people with same-sex attraction. I'm not sure why you felt that I did. The point is that the Holy Father has not clarified his words which appear to be at odds with the Church teaching. God forgives and I forgive.
@@iliya3110 It says what a fucking papal advisor thinks he meant. Who do you actually think knows more about the pope's beliefs: you, someone who spends their days watching fox news, or a papal advisor, someone whose literal job it is to know the pope's beliefs and provide counsel. and guess what? church teachings change. and hopefully stubborn old people will lose power and then we'll look back on anti-gay people the same way we look at people who supported segregation.
@@samuelrincon4407 Has nothing to do with Fox News. It's just Catholicism. Church teachings cannot contradict their previous meaning. May God bless you.
He should speak with less ambiguity and more clarity and prudence. That way apologists don't have to scrounge around and sift through every syllable of his words to make some sort of defense for his misleading words.
Hi Jason.The controvertial statement of the Pope says in spanish: "Lo que tenemos que hacer es una ley de convivencia civil. Tienen derecho a estar cubiertos legalmente" (I am mexican, and know well what "convivencia" means: not union, but coexistence). My way of translating the controvertial parragraph into english is: "What we have to do is a civil coexistence law (not a civil union law, as it has been translated). They (homosexuals) have the right to be legally covered." A civil coexistence law to protect their rights to services of health, education, no discrimination in labor, or military discrimination, etc. The Pope is not talking about familiy unions, or about a law of homosexual civil unions; he is talking about a law of civil coexistence that protects homosexuals from abuses of their rights. About homosexual marriage, he has spoken clearly enough about it before, just as the Church has always taught. I hope this will help to clarify what Pope Francis meant to say.
Hi there! I do have a problem that everything the Pope says on "Faith and morals" always has to be re~translated. It just seems like double talk 'coexistence and union' . Will eventually turn into marriage and the LGBTQ will be fighting for that too. A child needs a mother and father. As human beings of course all deserve civil rights. Why does the Pope have to get politically involved with the world. His vocation is to be our spiritual Vicar of Christ. He has denied that the Pope is the vicar of Christ.
Nice try, Cribeda Dabecri. Nice try. But no, you're totally off. Bergoglio has come to destroy the Church and to erase Jesus Christ from this world's memories. He serves Satan and he hates Christ. The true and only living Pope is Pope Benedict XVI.
@@carlozigoti9190 Terrible try Carlo. But never mind. Only time will show you the right answer. I know many people of your opinion, and they are, most of them, fanatics. Please, dont become one. There are enough of them in our Catholic Church.
As a Hispanic archbishop close to Pope Francis has stated, as well as a Spanish-speaking lawyer, analyzing the interview, that Pope Francis has precisely meant to offer his support to civil unions for homosexuals, just as he did while serving as Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
Pope Francis in 2019 supported the economic rights of a same-sex man whose partner had died BUT a US court rejected & declined to recognize such rights. This story went viral. Pope Francis is NOW merely restating his position on these economic rights thru the LEGAL mechanism of same-sex UNIONS & NOT same-sex MARRIAGE. The difference is NOT the same. Our faith has not been changed or corrupted. Long live Peter!
It is one thing to receive criminals, all kind of sinners, etc, to forgive them and above all to ask them to change, being very important that they want to change and that they change. And another thing is to accept them, not to ask them to change, they do not want to change but they want to stay and be admitted in the church with all rights. That is Pope Francis myopia to regards same sex marriage...but it looks like this myopia is on him a very old disease, he has it from many years ago. I wonder how Jorge Mario Bergoglio was chosen as a Pope if everyone knew about this.
some people don't believe the same things you do. Understand that. You're beliefs are not the universal truth. you shouldn't be able to prevent someone else from marrying the person they love because a book tells you to hate them. You're not god. No one other than other Christians gives a single fuck about what you believe. It's perfectly fine that you believe it, but stop imposing that on people with different beliefs.
The pope is an intelligent man. He spoke free of prejudices but with love and understanding, acceptance. That is how all xtianx should think. I agree totally with him as I will always be on the side of minorities. They are human beings as we all are... and all those who do not agree are living in sin. Hate is a sun.
A pope is only supposed to opine on matters of faith He has no infallibility outside that Of course this guy is a scumbag he has no infallibility from the beginning
let me challenge you a bit on this, respectfully (know that I see you have a solid and committed faith as per your comments - which I deeply respect) -- if two gay Catholic men promise chastity (and not to adopt, etc.) what sin would exist in them living together in mutual support in a committed friendship (philia and agape, not eros), especially since humans are social by nature? I think Francis is causing us to look more deeply into how mercy can be extended into the lives of the LGBTQ community, while being entirely faithful to the teaching of the Church, which is the mind and will of Christ.
@@angelicdoctor8016 The sin of placing them in a near occasion of grave sin. It is not merciful to lead people into temptation of grave sin. It's also sinful to scandalize the community. Moreover, the Church's ordinary Magesterium already condemned same-sex civil unions. It cannot be permitted because it blurs the lines. Period. This is simply Church teaching. Church teaching is merciful.
Thank you Jason for this. The link for the transcript to Pope Francis' original interview is incorrect. Would you be kind enough to provide the correct link? I've been trying to find it but have been unsuccessful.
Jason, in civil law in Chile civil law has these 3 cathegories for all people. They have civil marriage (that is how they define it: marriage for male/female or same sex) And then they have union divided in to 2 types: civil union "union civil"(for straights and same sex) and convivational union "union convivencial" (also for both straight and same sex) there in Chile all people can chose to enter either into a marriage or entee into a union that can be civil or conviventional. In your talk you said that here in america which straight couple would say "hey I just want to enter into a conviventional union"; so, while here in the usa we dont have these 2 types of unions, in chile they do have them.
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation-for-remedy? Why would anyone attorn there jurisdiction to the Vatican corporation? “Attorney” is derived from the verb “attorn,” meaning “to turn over to another person, to delegate, to transfer,” So unless you are an EMPLOYEE of the Vatican corporation, what have their policies got to do with your company/business/jurisdiction? Why attorn/give away/hand over your jurisdiction to a strange and a-lien court that is hostile to you? Maranatha. PS-Did he speak as a Pontiff ? A pontiff (from Latin pontifex) was, in Roman antiquity, a member of the most illustrious of the colleges of priests of the Roman (pagan) religion.
@@victorianguyen6620 Thank you for your reply. Our apologies in advance for the following rather lengthy comment....but needed by way of clarification. (please bear-in-mind that it is an uncomfortable realisation to this writer) The 3 Crowns and Trusts- The first Crown of Crown Land: Pope Boniface Vlll created the concept of a Trust, but the first Testamentary Trust, through a deed and Will creating a Deceased Estate was created by Pope Nicholas V in 1455, through the papal bull Romanus Pontifex, including the line `for a perpetual remembrance`. This had the effect of conveying the right of use of the land as Real Property, from the Express Trust Unam Sanctam to the control of the Pontiff and his successors in perpetuity, so that, all land is claimed as `crown land`. The first Crown is represented by the 1st Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born. It deprives us of the beneficial entitlements and rights on the land. The second Crown of the Commonwealth: This was created in 1481 with the papal bull Aeterni Regis (eternal crown) by Pope Sixtus lV, being the second of three papal bulls as deeds of testamentary Trusts. This second crown is represented by the 2nd Cestui Que Vie trust, created when a child is born and by the sale of the birth/berth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation, depriving us of ownership of our flesh and condemning us to perpetual servitude as a Roman person (=business) or as a slave(=chattel) The third crown of the ecclesiastical see: This was created in 1537 by Paul lll through the papal bull Convocation, at the opening of the council of Trent. It is the third and final testamentary deed and Will, set up for claiming all the `lost souls` that are lost to the See. This crown is granted for the collection and `reaping` of lost souls and was granted to the Temple Bar which became known as the Crown Bar or just the Crown. The 3rd crown is represented by the 3rd Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is baptised. It is the grant of the Baptismal certificate by the child`s parents that gives title to the soul to the church, to the Registrar. Without legal title, we are denied legal standing and will be treated as cargo, upon which the BAR association is now legally able to enforce Maritime law jurisdiction. The Cestui Que Vie Trust is a fictional concept and is a Temporary Testamentary Trust created during the reign of Henry Vlll through the Act of 1540 and updated by Charles ll through the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666(6-6-6) Perhaps our prayer should be more earnest- `SACRED HEART OF JESUS, WE PLACE ALL OUR TRUST WITH THEE`
I also think ambiguous messages do more harm than good, however guys (those commenting) please do not forget that condemning the pope is not the solution. We should all pray for him a loot. Don't forget that the Devil will do everything he can to attack him since he is sitting on the chair of Peter and leading the Church of Christ.
What happened to the bible verse which says - The Spirit of God will always be at odds with the spirit of the world? The spirit of the world has infiltrated the Church of God!!!! Am I looking at the end-time prophecy???
Hi Jason. I think when you said that Pope Francis called the transgendered people "girls" you were referring to the letter to the nun in Argentina. I struggled when I read about that in the online magazine article of America, the Jesuit Review. I tried to figure out if there could possibly be a misunderstanding. The article stated that the nun who the Pope wrote to is a prioress, meaning that she's a "superior of a monastic community of women." The article also stated, "Pope Francis has been a supporter and friend of Astorga since before he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, and he personally visited the community in 2009. Today they have a continuing correspondence." Since she is a superior over a group of other females (nuns) & since Pope Francis has been friends with her for so many years, I'm sure she has spoken about her nuns to him on many occasions over that time. I'm sure she asked for guidance, shared about issues, intentions, etc. and he's familiar with them. She would be referred to by her nuns as "Mother prioress" So do you think it's possible that in his letter, Pope Francis was referring to the nuns she oversees when he put in the note, "I pray for you and your daughters" rather than referring to the transgendered people? (Some articles translate this as, "I pray for you and your girls") It's possible that he has routinely written this line in his letters to her over the many years. I'm praying for them all and for you and your family
Thank you for giving him the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately, the sister whom he wrote the letter calls the men she serves "the girls" and so it appears he was using her terminology to refer to them.
Quite understandably, the Holy Father’s recent statements concerning civil unions have captured the attention of the world press, because many people are anxious for the Church to change its position on marriage and family. Pope Francis strongly and consistently teaches that marriage is between a man and woman for a lifetime and that this is God’s plan for having and raising children. The Pope’s endorsement of civil unions is not an endorsement of homosexual activity. Just as the Church does not campaign against civil laws that allow for common-law marriage or second marriages that are not sacramental, even though such arrangements can be in violation of the laws of the Church, the Holy Father recognizes that in civil society there can be cogent reasons to enact such laws providing for civil unions which are not the same as the institution of marriage. Pope Francis has seen civil unions as a way for governments to provide protections and health care for couples in long-term, committed relationships, whether they be siblings or friends or partners. Such arrangements are not always of a sexual nature. The Holy Father is very aware of the suffering and alienation of homosexual individuals, gay people, who are rejected by family and society. He is also keenly aware of the parents and loved ones who also suffer because a member of their family is bullied or marginalized for being different. The demands of sexual morality are very challenging for anyone seeking to lead a life of faithful discipleship. We do not serve people well by falsely claiming that we can change the Decalogue. Our task is to show people that we love them and care about them and that together we can strive to be better people, more generous, more courageous and more faithful to what God is calling us to do.
Why did the Pope or the Vatican...... FAIL to offer clarification? They know the world heard this and many traditional Catholics have had their hearts broken over this.
www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/10/28/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-same-sex-civil-unions oops you're wrong, but dont worry, its ok to treat gay people with different beliefs like human beings :)
@@samuelrincon4407 Oh pulling out the alt left 'America Magazine'? No thank you. It's not ok to treat anyone with disordered tendencies as anything less than the child of God they are called to be. Those of us who embrace the battle of this (or other) disordered activity of lies is only following the father of lies and not the one True loving Heavenly Father.
@@michaelverde4844 do you actually have a good conception of what "alt left" means? Do you understand that if joe biden took the political compass test, he would be classified as an right wing authoritarian? I know a lot of people don't respect your opinion because your old and its scientifically proven that as you get older you get more stubborn and close-minded, but I am honestly asking you what tf you actually think is the alt-left. If accepting gay people is alt left then wtf are communists? alt alt alt alt left? what perception of the political realm do you actually have? please tell me, I am so intrigued.
The comment about civil unions was taken from an interview about the Argentine same sex marriage law. Cardinal Bergoglio at that time suggested civil unions as a lesser evil. People never commented so negative about that until now. "Some have surmised that Francis is proposing pushing civil marriages in all countries. It seems clear he is just suggesting civil unions in countries that already have “gay marriage” or look like they may soon get it. His repeated references to civil unions only as an option instead of “gay marriage” over the past decade make this even clearer. It is also worth noting that the Argentine law on civil unions has nothing about what happens in the bedroom and is open to any two adults living together for an extended period and somehow dependant on each other. One of Francis’s top advisors also indicated that such civil unions “do not in themselves imply sexual relations.” Thus, one can imagine Francis is talking about a civil union in general or specifically a type of civil union that does not imply sex, rather than creating a special category just for romantic homosexual partners." www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2020/10/full-text-proves-francis-meant-civil-unions-instead-of-gay-marriage/
No matter how to cut it, to endorse civil union between homosexuals is to endorse gay sex. It's self-deceit to tell oneself that two gays will have a civil union "to be covered" and yet not have sexual relations. Such naivete is laughable. The contention that that civil union is not civil marriage is true, but it completely misses the point, which is that by endorsing civil unions -- even as an alternative to gay marriage -- the Pope endorses gay unions. This is so contrary to Church teaching that, despite the technical legal difference between gay civil union and gay marriage, the practical effect is the same: The Pope says gay sex is just fine with him. As if we didn't already know. Look at his scandalous failure to rein in James Martin and other promoters of gay sex. We need a new Pope.
@@saints51 If it's about creating civil unions specifically for gay couples then I agree that there's an implicit support for gay sex. Either it has to be as a way to reduce the damage from gay marriage, as a lesser evil, or as some kind of general cohabitation contract that doesn't say that it's meant for gay couples but for everybody who wants it, which may be what the Argentine law on civil unions is about. In Amoris Laetitia 251 there's an exact copy of the text from the congregation of the faith about homosexual unions in 2003: “as for proposals to place unions between homosexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family”. I think that indicates that the pope respects that earlier document by Ratzinger. I can't believe that the pope supports gay sex, because this is just way too far from church teaching. It would require the church to abandon the doctrine that sex is restricted to the marriage between man and woman. Either that means they have to open up marriage for gay couples, which is clearly not supported by the pope or open up sex for non married couples, which is also completely out of the question. You can't say that gay couples can have sex without being married, while keeping man-woman couples restricted to marriage. He changed the doctrine about the death penalty, but he never indicated that he would change the doctrine about homosexuality. So far I still think that people are seeing too many problems with this civil union comment now.
@@dirkbaeten6949 If you can't believe the Pope supports gay sex, then try explaining away that: 1) civil union is meant to cover unions of gay people in countries where gay marriage is seen as just a step too far; 2) Francis himself views civil unions as the lesser of two evils, knowing full well that the union is for the purpose of legally uniting two gays just short of marriage; 3) virtually the entire gay community is elated at Francis' statement, taking it as an endorsement of their lifestyle from the Pope himself; 4) the Pope has been thoroughly tolerant of the teachings of James Martin; and 5) given several days to "clarify," the Pope has failed to do so. You are simply refusing to see the truth. The Pope has virtually told you that he endorses gay sex, and to such a degree that he would see gay partners "covered by the law," or words to that effect. Why do you not believe him? Because "this is just way too far from church teaching"? That didn't stop him from -- as you admit -- "chang[ing] the [Church] doctrine about the death penalty." Your words. Acknowledging the truth is a much higher value than defending a Pope whose teachings on a point of morals violate the Church's teachings.
Father Augustino’s video explains very clearly what transpired. “What did the Pope Actually Say” Father explains the mis-quotation mis-interpreted and mis- understood , interview
You believe he is of GOD🤔 2 explanations to comprehend him🤷🏽♂️ Satan speaks in puzzles Because He literally can’t be honest Devil bi two paths That multiply Satan
In the Bible (John 8)... the Pharisees brought to Jesus a woman who committed adultery; instead of Him preaching up & down about the evil of adultery, Jesus said that whoever has no sin should cast the first stone. Didn't Pope Francis just basically do the same? Looks like Jesus is saying that knowing the laws/commandments is important, but our Primary duty is to love & respect others, and to leave the judging to God as to who will go to hell. I think we should ask ourselves, at this time, are we acting more like the Pharisees?
If one follows the Holy Father from the start , he is attempting to express to the secular world that the mercy of God displayed on earth by his Son our Lord Jesus, is to be shown to those who believe and those who do not believe. I interpret Pope Francis praying that the rights of all should be protected by law, free of prejudice and discrimination. Pope Francis stays, as Our Lord Jesus seen through the Gospel, from judgments. Instead he says we need to show respect for all of creation regardless of our following Christ. The russian production, stress russian, informs me more of what the producer wanted to send out than that what the Pope is quoted as saying. Holy Mary and St Joseph keep us safe from the works of the evil one. 🙏 we aren’t waiting on the television productions for Papal leadership!!!!!!!
@Douglas Perry and a celebration of a lot of people does not matter to me if it's Christmas. What matters to me is that I am happy to celebrate Christmas not because of the pope, not because of the Catholic doctrine, but because I know my Lord and Savior's birthday is on Christmas. It should be only between the individual and God. Hope you have a blessed Christmas with Jesus too.
@Douglas Perry just as long as you have your nativity set up outside I'm sure that's enough. His birth was not the first Mass. So no need to worry to be specific on a time to go to Mass. Just make sure you're going on Holy days of obligation :-) Holy days, Sundays, Saturday night vigils of the Sunday eve Mass. Amen. We haven't had midnight Mass since before September 11th.
@Douglas Perry thank you for saying that and you're welcome. I try to tell it like it is, sometimes I feel I'm coming off rude but I don't think so. I notice God still loves us even when we think of Him, each day many moments of the day. Remember we can't the things we have here to heaven with us, but we have something more in heaven. SO I think of it this way, God doesn't want anything but us. He wants us to live our lives the way He wants us to see us live the lives He made for us. I have to try and stay positive as much as I can. Wish others can do the same :-)
This whole confusion about the understanding of a different language by Americans points out the weakness in the American system of these last 50 years...no basic latin or other Language as they DO teach everyone in European countries. It gives them an edge.
Jason I did a simple google search of Argentinian civil law. It states the following which I will write as it is written in the webpage of argentina's goberment. Estas en pareja = are you a couple En caso de estar en pareja, ambos pueden acceder a distintos beneficios si legalizan su relacion de convivencia = In case you are a couple, both can have access to different benefits if you legalized your convivial relation. Estan en pareja y quiren legalizar su relacion? = Are you a couple and want to legalize your relation? Existen dos maneras de hacerlo: (There are two ways of doing it) pueden contraer matrimonio o asentar la union civil/convivencial. (You can get married or establishe your civil/convivential union) Jason, I would like to say that eventhough civil or convivential union seem to be the same or at the same level or cathegory, there is a clear disctinction between getting married (which corresponds to civil marriage/union here in the usa) and establishing the union that can be civil/convivential. We have to take this into consideration so that we dont accuse the Holy Father of something that he didnot say. Just because Argentinian law uses the word civil it does not correspond to civil marriages here in the US. Argentinian law makes a clear distinction between marriage and civil/convivential unions. Not only that, but even in the word they use for each of them is very different. For marriage they use the traditional word "contract" marriage and for the other they use the word "establishe" your union civil/convivential. (The lader is not a marriage, its a union) we dont have these diffent types for people, we only have civil marriages and that is why we cannot pressume that the Holy Father is speaking of the same thing when he says "union de convivencia"; moreover, he did not even used the word civil (it was put in purpose iether by the director of the film or by the first media outlet who made the translation of the spanish words of the Holy Father) I would even venture to say that the Holy Father did not use the word civil because he knows that civil in the US means marriage and he probably knows the americans always make noise because noise makes money if every one talks about it in social media outlets that are always monetized. I am afraid all those making this big fuzz and attributing this controvertial words to the Holy Father they do it on purpose so that they can monetize the news; something that in not only shameful but pure evil, to make money at the expence of the reputation of the Holy Father. As I read the law of Argentina it is not the same marriage and civil/convivential unions. One is marriage the other a union and both are offered by the state to the people which gives them legal protection which include benefits, duties and rights, which are different depending on what you chose (marriage or civil/convivential union)
I would like to clarify that the Holy Father did use the word civil; but again, I still think that in Argentinian Law civil union does not mean civil marriage as we have it here in the US.
@@johna1495 That is your opinion, I guess; yet, lawmakers - and those benefitting from such civil licences to be recognised as partners (aka 'marriage', of some sort) - do understand it as marriage = making one legal body out of two. What you point out is only that the requirements for valid Civil Union licenses differ from those applied to Civil Marriage (the religious bit is not required or licenced by the state). A Marriage, for instance, includes adultery and non-consummation as reasons for invalidating or undoing the terms of the state licence i.e. divorce, a Union does not, however it does or it may include some Unions between siblings/ relatives, and guarantees a swinging lifestyle to all (even if one partner later disapproves), divorce here merely being a matter of a letter of state-affirmed disavowal. If two people (or more, for that matter) want to guarantee inheritance or property or childcare, this can already be done - legally, without getting the state to licence its approval of a type of coupled-union. These means are called contracts, a solicitor or notary may draw these up and approve them (not a few hyper-wealthy souls insist on them now as legally binding pre-nuptial-agreements) - moreover, the state does not need to licence them for something that they are not (alternative forms of marriage, without its rigorous demands). ;o)
Thanks Jason, this helped. I don’t know why but I always get confused when it comes to infallibility. I knew that this case wasn’t but it’s discouraging when by either the pope’s or the media’s fault lies are spread. Perhaps God allows it so we can gain a deeper understanding of the issue by wrestling with it.
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This didn't need explanation. Not surprised christians are confused. Isn't it a pre requisite for belief?
I believe the prime duty of catholic church is not to advocate for civil laws or rights. Catholic church should inspire Lgbt community to repent, confess and receive Holy Communion. Receiving Holy Communion everyday will heal them surely in a short span of time and they could also lead a normal life, it depends on one's faith. Catholic church should arrange fasting and prayer service worldwide every Sunday for the healing of Lgbt community. This way we all could show mercy towards this community. Remember them everyday in our personal prayers.
Before I get to my actual comment, I wanted to point out that the sound on this video is terrible. It's extremely quiet, even with my volume all the way up. Now, with that out of the way... What if a same-sex couple (two men, or two women) decides to not act on their same-sex attractions? They decide to be celibate and not cross any sexual lines, but they want to be married so that they can spend their lives together. They share their finances, their homes, etc. They even sleep in the same bed, but don't go past cuddling and hugging and a kiss on the forehead. Is THAT a marriage that perhaps the Catholic Church can accept? I'm aware that would be something extremely rare, as I can't see very many people wanting to get married but sexual intimacy not being included. But for argument's sake. Let's pretend it is something that comes up.
Good question. The Church understands marriage to be a complete gift of one's self to the other (emotionally, physically, etc). So, at the altar, the two promise one another to do this, and to welcome children into that union, should God bless them in that way. Then, they leave the church and speak those vows through their bodies. This is when their union is consummated. They're renewing their wedding vows in the flesh. However, our culture first requested to have sex without marriage, and now some seek marriage without sex. But God's design for the sacrament of marriage is that the two would become one flesh. Marriage, then, is not primarily about what two people do (live together and care about each other), but what the two become: An image of Christ's love for his Chuch. Jesus left his father and mother, and gave his body (on the cross) to his bride (the church) so that we could have his life within us. Marriage is created to be a sign of this (See Eph 5). The Church simply does not have the authority to change the teaching that has been given to her from God. I hope this helps. Also, see: www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/9432/ and the other content at chastity.com. God bless you.
Jason I agree the statement was not magisterial....but, in this day and age what can be defined as a definitive act. 'Csuse I've been told even an encyclical defined and written as intended for the entire Catholic faithful is not necessarily magisterial. This I can't understand, because then everything seems ambiguous and we then can never truly define an actual application if this magisterial truth. If it applies but for every 150 blue moons then how can we call it a persisting spiritual protection from errors of faith and morals.
Ok. But how come he hasn’t clarified. ??? He doesn’t clarify anything. I think this can lead to a loss of faith. Especially in those who are on the edges. They’re trying to figure it out and there like huh????And why do you have to explain it. Shouldn’t he.??? Not trying to be sarcastic. Just trying to wrap our brains around so many things he’s said is upsetting!!! God bless you and Thankyou for all you do
Fellow Catholics and Christians, I am not trying to bash this guy, he is also a child of God, but what he is saying is not the truth. We believe in the tradition of love. Gay people are our brothers and sisters and they didn't choose to be gay. They didn't. No more than anyone chose to be over 6 feet tall. Why be ashamed of being 5'9''? If you are looking for evil, look first within and, after done with that, speak out about the real injustices in this world.
How do change the suggestion, if at all, to be friends with or be involved in a family members life if they are unapologetically living in a homosexual relationship, having young kids yourself? Where is a line drawn? Or for your kids to be friends with someone openly lives that lifestyle?
You should love such people as your neighbors and brethren in Christ. You should teach your children to love and respect all people, regardless of their lifestyle. That is the gospel. The church commands us to take care of everyone unconditionally including prisoners and convicted criminals. If you cannot love others, you do not love Christ.
Coexistencia civil is not union civil. Is civil coexistence. Please don’t use internet translators. Get a Spanish speaking person to explain you. Please stop confusing people.
www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/10/28/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-same-sex-civil-unions oops you're wrong, but dont worry, its ok to treat gay people with different beliefs like human beings :)
@@teresamauricio2523 It doesn't add anything. Jason could just as easily have started with "I want to address Pope Francis' statement..." without the implied telling off to anyone who wasn't aware of it. I saw the news as soon as it came out, but the start to this video still put me off enough to decide not to watch the rest of it.
@@FabMakeUp101 I thought that was the beauty of platforms like TH-cam: that content creators can get instant feedback from their viewers. Jason, of course, does not have to take my suggestion if he disagrees. If you thought there was something Jason - or any other content creator - could have done better, how would you have worded it to make it clear that you weren't 'telling them what to do?' And yes, I think telling someone that they must have been living under a rock is insulting.
Wow. These American Catholics only like Popes that speak their rhetoric. I am a Spanish speaking native and the Pope clearly supports same sex civil unions because many countries do not have same sex marriage. The Pope is revealing God's love for not only gay people but the relationships they have with their partners. Move on please, this is getting old. I am pretty sure there are more straight Catholic divorces than LGBT people who want to get married. Talk about that.
"More and more, My faithful Remnant is being defined by the evil all around them. Now you have 'sanctuaries' of sin in the world where those who live in sin go unchallenged by authorities. Even worse and more far-reaching is the Pope's approval of homosexuality.* He is approving of the same sin that chose My Wrath in Sodom and Gomorrah. This has far-reaching effects on the whole world. PRAY that this Pope realizes he is the Vicar of Christ - a symbol of obedience to My Commandments in the world. He is leading millions astray! Moreover, he is listening to the wrong spirit and in this decision he is not infallible. " I warn you, DO NOT obey just title. Pay heed to the fruits of what those in authority stand for. These are nefarious times. TRUTH is a victim." Read Psalm 4:2-3. Holy 💘
It is Modernism, expressed as a personal opinion, and that personified by a reigning Sovereign Pontiff .. Ambiguity, bundled in error, and wrapped with confusion. The emotional driving force and any emotive responses to it are summed up thus: Go! Make a mess ..! O Mary conceived without sin : Pray for us who have recourse to thee. God bless. ;o)
Is Popesplaining now in the dictionary? This Poe is the king of weaponized ambiguity. Remember he told the clerical abuse victim that “God made you gay”.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on Homosexuality #2357 the last line in that paragraph states,” Under no circumstances can they be approved.” 2358 third sentence in this, “They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and if Christians to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they May encounter from their condition. 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chasity. This book of the Catholic Church and more importantly the Bible are clear on this issue. Hope this helps some of you.
Pray for this Pope.
Your post is right on.
The chatechism is satanic
If everybody on Earth has misunderstood what the Pope said, why not giving a clearer declaration of what he had in mind ? I think you know why.
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By suggesting legalization of a “civil union” between same sex individuals, the Church would not have to deal with those who wished to request a way of “marriage,” for homosexuals, which the Church would never accept.
@@rosadebarriga1319 that means he is a coward. Don't beat around the bush on this. Let's tell the truth. The bible never says marriage is between a man and a woman. HOWEVER, there are no situations where marriage is described as being between same-sex partners, it is ALWAYS described as being between a man and a woman and even God thought it that way when he made Eve instead Erick. And same sex civil unions are what the bible is speaking about is romans chapter one, it is one of the things that causes the wrath of god to come.. So this man is a coward..
@@brotheresquire2776 The Holy Father is not a coward! Quite on the contrary. He has had the guts to fight for the legal rights of those living ostracized.
@@rosadebarriga1319 against the will of God. God said don't allow it from you , your nation nor strangers that live in your nation. What he said is wrong. He can't overrule the bible. He is supposed to enforce it. That is why Christ is the real head of the church not the pope. He is a coward. He could have said it is their right to be together but it is still against the will of God, but he didn't. And that makes him a coward.. I say what he won't on my channel on my latest show.. LGBTQ AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH.
That chair is for the false prophet.
You have to look at our society in the current day. Civil unions are very rarely chaste. With this being said civil unions for same sex couples are an open door to temptation
He didn't mention same sex and the report was taken out of context.
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What wonderful way of preaching the gospel! We have forgotten how chastity is crucial on our way to holiness: we were made for eternity! I congratulate you on this video! I will be praying for you!
Will the Pope please stop confusing the faithful by issuing ambiguous statements!
No he will not because he is committed to destroying the Church and constructing an anti-church.
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Do not write nonsense !
Follow the teachings of The Church; and keep your Faith; nobody ought to confuse you. Translations are not always precise nor accurate or taken out of context. Ley de convivencia, unión civil or common law are terms used in the legal world and have nothing to do with the sacred marriage of the Church.
@@rosadebarriga1319 nothing to do with scared marriage ? Then why mention it at all and then announced it to the whole wide world?
@Ruben Fruto
or what??? you'll leave the church?? youll call the pope bad pope???
Thank you so much Jason. This is so wonderfully and charitably made!
Why then does not the Holy Father clarify his statement and simply state clearly what Our Blessed Lord teaches and dispel the doubts? Many young people are still searching for answers and guidance, they have not yet reached full maturity in their faith. The Pope and the Magisterium is supposed to be the most reliable figure to go to when one wants to know what Christ teaches. But a number of times when we listen to what the Holy Father says we are left in the dark and baffled as to what it all means. And the sad thing is he does not clarify. May Our Lord bless and guide His Holiness and help us all to be charitable but also to speak the Truth in love.
I also, think he should clarify his statements personally. The fact that he is delaying is causing a lot of confusion and wonder.
The sad truth is that this pope is a modern-day Judas. His intention is to obfuscate and speak ambiguously so that he can slowly change church doctrine. He wants to make statements contrary to the faith, to confuse and mislead and then silently sit back and let nature take its course. He will not make any additional statements in order to clarify his comments. That would defeat his purpose, which is to destroy Church doctrine. If he feels forced to "clarify" he may make a statement that is just as obtuse as his original one. He is what is known as a modernist; he is a person who rejects divine revelation and thereby the immutable deposit of faith , of which he is supposed to be the steward.
It is a horrible and wicked thing to intentionally mislead and to cause scandal to the little ones. But this is the pope we now have. My advice to all is to study the deposit of faith as promulgated prior to the Pope Francis pontificate.
Maybe he's not that holy and a father to anyone at all.
@@Lisajj2011 Wake up! He's the false prophet! He's an impostor fake pope!
*Peace and Joy* You, too, need to wake up! Bergoglio is the false prophet! He's an impostor fake pope!
As Fr Corapi once said:” it’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve”.
Convivencia civil and civil unión is THE SAME THING. But Pope Francis is old enough to clear things up in a jiffy if he wants to. He has done it even to Cardinal Francis about Holy Mass at orientum. He has fired Cardinal Mueller with no explanations, and many times to others. But where is McKarrick now? Or James Martin for that matter! What you do tells more than what you say.
Cardinal Sarah is what you meant...
Convivencia civil and civil union is not the same thing. You contribute to the confusion.
I think apologists need to consider that ambiguity in itself is a sin of omission. This ambiguity needs to be held to equal to actually stating an erroneous thing.
weaponised ambiguity.
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Anna thank you for your clear talk. Sharing your story and May God continue to bless and guide you. Open dialogue is valuable for all.
I'm with Archbishop Viganó, Bishop Athanasius, and others whom bravely have taken the position to confront Bergoglio's heresies, as well as all the mistakes made during this post counciliar era.
Thanks brother for the encouraging words, our faith is based on the words of Jesus Christ
Needed clarity on that🤔
Word is LAW
Pope is SATAN
come on man. he’s been playin’ both sides.
Good imitation of an imitation.
Playing the ambiguity card here seems far fetched...
Catholics have to reject any legal recognition of homosexual couples.
Pope calls for legal recognition (legal coverage) of homosexual couples.
Unless the Pope was quoting something that catholics have to reject and the editor made it seem like it was something the Pope was affirming, then he is in clear error.
God bless you Jason 🙏🏻he has been a challenge for me to now he’s just a headache and that’s the honest truth all we get is confusion from Pope Francis and the Vatican
“So simple a child could understand”
Satan speaks in riddles
Not complicated
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Microphone needs turned up on your broadcast. Difficult to hear.
Thanks, Jeanne. I thought it was my laptop.
Yes perhaps, but here's the quick fix put up the volume. 😃 That say, its is still quite a problem when she enters the conversation. 🤪
Yes, I had it on as loud as possible and it was very hard to hear you.
Hey i wanna say thank you for this video! I had just dismissed this whole event as a classic mistranslation issue, and I appreciate how you spoke more depth into it. ALSO thanks for bringing us the interview with Anna, that was so wholesome and uplifting!
"May your yes mean yes and your no mean no"
Jason, Thanks for your desire to bring clarity to this important issue, which needs to be understood. The Catholic teaching is clear, but sadly these statements have "muddied the waters." Let's pray that the Vatican restates the position you shared written by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in 2003. Keep up the good work. I'm in Dublin and I was hoping to meet you last year. I hope you get a chance to visit Ireland soon. God bless, Bro. Gordon
Is Sex Without Marriage allowed by the Church? If not, why are there so many who live together without marriage? Does it mean the Clergy FAILED in emphasizing it to the members of the Church.
He said "convivencia civil" law. Literally, it means "civil coexistence law" or more literally, "civil living together law" and he was talking about it in the context of homosexuals. Same-sex civil unions are an error. The Church already condemned them. I don't see how the literal translation remotely helps makes this look any better at all. This is unacceptable. And what about the latest encyclical? The Freemasons were applauding it! The arch-enemy of the Catholic Church in modern times since the French Revolution. We need to wake up!
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/argentine-archbishop-and-pope-francis-advisor-says-civil-union-not-mistranslated-in-documentary-95995 oops, im pretty sure i'll believe one of his advisors before I believe some random guy who doesn't like gay people.
@@samuelrincon4407 That article doesn't say what Pope Francis meant. It only says what that Argentine priest thinks he meant, which means nothing. You are accusing me of something I am not guilty of. If, based off of the information I have provided here, you have rashly judged me as not liking people with same-sex attraction, then you are accusing the ordinary Magesterium of the Church of also not liking people with same-sex attraction; I have merely stated the magesterial teaching that civil unions for same-sex people cannot be approved. I have not given hate for people with same-sex attraction. I'm not sure why you felt that I did. The point is that the Holy Father has not clarified his words which appear to be at odds with the Church teaching. God forgives and I forgive.
@@iliya3110 It says what a fucking papal advisor thinks he meant. Who do you actually think knows more about the pope's beliefs: you, someone who spends their days watching fox news, or a papal advisor, someone whose literal job it is to know the pope's beliefs and provide counsel. and guess what? church teachings change. and hopefully stubborn old people will lose power and then we'll look back on anti-gay people the same way we look at people who supported segregation.
@@samuelrincon4407 Has nothing to do with Fox News. It's just Catholicism. Church teachings cannot contradict their previous meaning. May God bless you.
He should speak with less ambiguity and more clarity and prudence. That way apologists don't have to scrounge around and sift through every syllable of his words to make some sort of defense for his misleading words.
Huh are you even a catholic?
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Hi Jason.The controvertial statement of the Pope says in spanish:
"Lo que tenemos que hacer es una ley de convivencia civil. Tienen
derecho a estar cubiertos legalmente" (I am mexican, and know well what
"convivencia" means: not union, but coexistence). My way of translating
the controvertial parragraph into english is: "What we have to do is a
civil coexistence law (not a civil union law, as it has been
translated). They (homosexuals) have the right to be legally covered." A
civil coexistence law to protect their rights to services of health,
education, no discrimination in labor, or military discrimination, etc.
The Pope is not talking about familiy unions, or about a law of
homosexual civil unions; he is talking about a law of civil coexistence
that protects homosexuals from abuses of their rights. About homosexual
marriage, he has spoken clearly enough about it before, just as the
Church has always taught. I hope this will help to clarify what Pope
Francis meant to say.
Hi there!
I do have a problem that everything the Pope says on "Faith and morals" always has to be re~translated. It just seems like double talk 'coexistence and union' . Will eventually turn into marriage and the LGBTQ will be fighting for that too. A child needs a mother and father. As human beings of course all deserve civil rights. Why does the Pope have to get politically involved with the world. His vocation is to be our spiritual Vicar of Christ. He has denied that the Pope is the vicar of Christ.
Nice try, Cribeda Dabecri. Nice try. But no, you're totally off. Bergoglio has come to destroy the Church and to erase Jesus Christ from this world's memories. He serves Satan and he hates Christ. The true and only living Pope is Pope Benedict XVI.
@@carlozigoti9190 Terrible try Carlo. But never mind. Only time will show you the right answer. I know many people of your opinion, and they are, most of them, fanatics. Please, dont become one. There are enough of them in our Catholic Church.
As a Hispanic archbishop close to Pope Francis has stated, as well as a Spanish-speaking lawyer, analyzing the interview, that Pope Francis has precisely meant to offer his support to civil unions for homosexuals, just as he did while serving as Archbishop of Buenos Aires.
Maybe Francis should just stop giving interviews. That may be too much to ask since he's drawn to a microphone like a magnet.
Thank you for speaking about this! I love your stuff!!
Thank you Jason for your wisdom. Your words are consoling to my soul.
Pope Francis in 2019 supported the economic rights of a same-sex man whose partner had died BUT a US court rejected & declined to recognize such rights. This story went viral. Pope Francis is NOW merely restating his position on these economic rights thru the LEGAL mechanism of same-sex UNIONS & NOT same-sex MARRIAGE. The difference is NOT the same. Our faith has not been changed or corrupted. Long live Peter!
Bishop Schneiders call for clarity, charity and prayer
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Our faith can never change. No matter what Bergoglio says. 🙏🏻
Sound quality a bit low. But thanks for sharing.
It is one thing to receive criminals, all kind of sinners, etc, to forgive them and above all to ask them to change, being very important that they want to change and that they change. And another thing is to accept them, not to ask them to change, they do not want to change but they want to stay and be admitted in the church with all rights. That is Pope Francis myopia to regards same sex marriage...but it looks like this myopia is on him a very old disease, he has it from many years ago. I wonder how Jorge Mario Bergoglio was chosen as a Pope if everyone knew about this.
some people don't believe the same things you do. Understand that. You're beliefs are not the universal truth. you shouldn't be able to prevent someone else from marrying the person they love because a book tells you to hate them. You're not god. No one other than other Christians gives a single fuck about what you believe. It's perfectly fine that you believe it, but stop imposing that on people with different beliefs.
The pope is an intelligent man. He spoke free of prejudices but with love and understanding, acceptance. That is how all xtianx should think. I agree totally with him as I will always be on the side of minorities. They are human beings as we all are... and all those who do not agree are living in sin. Hate is a sun.
I don't know.. I'm tired trying to defend this pope.. I always say when he speaks about something... I just say that it's his own opinion..
A pope is only supposed to opine on matters of faith
He has no infallibility outside that
Of course this guy is a scumbag
he has no infallibility from the beginning
let me challenge you a bit on this, respectfully (know that I see you have a solid and committed faith as per your comments - which I deeply respect) -- if two gay Catholic men promise chastity (and not to adopt, etc.) what sin would exist in them living together in mutual support in a committed friendship (philia and agape, not eros), especially since humans are social by nature? I think Francis is causing us to look more deeply into how mercy can be extended into the lives of the LGBTQ community, while being entirely faithful to the teaching of the Church, which is the mind and will of Christ.
@@og-greenmachine8623 when you speak bad about the Pope who is the vicar of Christ, you speak bad about Christ
I'd like to see an impeachment effort from the College of Cardinals. After all, the cardinals are mere men, and they made a mistake with Francis.
@@angelicdoctor8016 The sin of placing them in a near occasion of grave sin. It is not merciful to lead people into temptation of grave sin. It's also sinful to scandalize the community. Moreover, the Church's ordinary Magesterium already condemned same-sex civil unions. It cannot be permitted because it blurs the lines. Period. This is simply Church teaching. Church teaching is merciful.
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Thank you Jason for this. The link for the transcript to Pope Francis' original interview is incorrect. Would you be kind enough to provide the correct link? I've been trying to find it but have been unsuccessful.
Thanks for catching that. Here you go: wherepeteris.com/those-pope-francis-quotes-video-editing-and-media-controversy-2/
Thank you Jason the best explanation I’ve heard in the past few days.
Jason, in civil law in Chile civil law has these 3 cathegories for all people. They have civil marriage (that is how they define it: marriage for male/female or same sex)
And then they have union divided in to 2 types: civil union "union civil"(for straights and same sex) and convivational union "union convivencial" (also for both straight and same sex) there in Chile all people can chose to enter either into a marriage or entee into a union that can be civil or conviventional. In your talk you said that here in america which straight couple would say "hey I just want to enter into a conviventional union"; so, while here in the usa we dont have these 2 types of unions, in chile they do have them.
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation-for-remedy?
Why would anyone attorn there jurisdiction to the Vatican corporation?
“Attorney” is derived from the verb “attorn,” meaning “to turn over to another person, to delegate, to transfer,”
So unless you are an EMPLOYEE of the Vatican corporation, what have their policies got to do with your company/business/jurisdiction?
Why attorn/give away/hand over your jurisdiction to a strange and a-lien court that is hostile to you?
Maranatha.
PS-Did he speak as a Pontiff ? A pontiff (from Latin pontifex) was, in Roman antiquity, a member of the most illustrious of the colleges of priests of the Roman (pagan) religion.
Huh ?
@@victorianguyen6620
Thank you for your reply.
Our apologies in advance for the following rather lengthy comment....but needed by way of clarification.
(please bear-in-mind that it is an uncomfortable realisation to this writer)
The 3 Crowns and Trusts-
The first Crown of Crown Land:
Pope Boniface Vlll created the concept of a Trust, but the first Testamentary Trust, through a deed and Will creating a Deceased Estate was created by Pope Nicholas V in 1455, through the papal bull Romanus Pontifex, including the line `for a perpetual remembrance`. This had the effect of conveying the right of use of the land as Real Property, from the Express Trust Unam Sanctam to the control of the Pontiff and his successors in perpetuity, so that, all land is claimed as `crown land`. The first Crown is represented by the 1st Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is born. It deprives us of the beneficial entitlements and rights on the land.
The second Crown of the Commonwealth:
This was created in 1481 with the papal bull Aeterni Regis (eternal crown) by Pope Sixtus lV, being the second of three papal bulls as deeds of testamentary Trusts. This second crown is represented by the 2nd Cestui Que Vie trust, created when a child is born and by the sale of the birth/berth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation, depriving us of ownership of our flesh and condemning us to perpetual servitude as a Roman person (=business) or as a slave(=chattel)
The third crown of the ecclesiastical see:
This was created in 1537 by Paul lll through the papal bull Convocation, at the opening of the council of Trent. It is the third and final testamentary deed and Will, set up for claiming all the `lost souls` that are lost to the See. This crown is granted for the collection and `reaping` of lost souls and was granted to the Temple Bar which became known as the Crown Bar or just the Crown.
The 3rd crown is represented by the 3rd Cestui Que Vie Trust, created when a child is baptised. It is the grant of the Baptismal certificate by the child`s parents that gives title to the soul to the church, to the Registrar. Without legal title, we are denied legal standing and will be treated as cargo, upon which the BAR association is now legally able to enforce Maritime law jurisdiction.
The Cestui Que Vie Trust is a fictional concept and is a Temporary Testamentary Trust created during the reign of Henry Vlll through the Act of 1540 and updated by Charles ll through the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666(6-6-6)
Perhaps our prayer should be more earnest-
`SACRED HEART OF JESUS, WE PLACE ALL OUR TRUST WITH THEE`
I also think ambiguous messages do more harm than good, however guys (those commenting) please do not forget that condemning the pope is not the solution. We should all pray for him a loot. Don't forget that the Devil will do everything he can to attack him since he is sitting on the chair of Peter and leading the Church of Christ.
What happened to the bible verse which says - The Spirit of God will always be at odds with the spirit of the world? The spirit of the world has infiltrated the Church of God!!!! Am I looking at the end-time prophecy???
Hi Jason. I think when you said that Pope Francis called the transgendered people "girls" you were referring to the letter to the nun in Argentina. I struggled when I read about that in the online magazine article of America, the Jesuit Review. I tried to figure out if there could possibly be a misunderstanding.
The article stated that the nun who the Pope wrote to is a prioress, meaning that she's a "superior of a monastic community of women." The article also stated, "Pope Francis has been a supporter and friend of Astorga since before he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, and he personally visited the community in 2009. Today they have a continuing correspondence."
Since she is a superior over a group of other females (nuns) & since Pope Francis has been friends with her for so many years, I'm sure she has spoken about her nuns to him on many occasions over that time. I'm sure she asked for guidance, shared about issues, intentions, etc. and he's familiar with them. She would be referred to by her nuns as "Mother prioress" So do you think it's possible that in his letter, Pope Francis was referring to the nuns she oversees when he put in the note, "I pray for you and your daughters" rather than referring to the transgendered people? (Some articles translate this as, "I pray for you and your girls")
It's possible that he has routinely written this line in his letters to her over the many years.
I'm praying for them all and for you and your family
Thank you for giving him the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately, the sister whom he wrote the letter calls the men she serves "the girls" and so it appears he was using her terminology to refer to them.
Thank you and Crystalina for all the good you do 🌌🙏
Thank you for this video!!!!
Quite understandably, the Holy Father’s recent statements concerning civil unions have captured the attention of the world press, because many people are anxious for the Church to change its position on marriage and family. Pope Francis strongly and consistently teaches that marriage is between a man and woman for a lifetime and that this is God’s plan for having and raising children.
The Pope’s endorsement of civil unions is not an endorsement of homosexual activity. Just as the Church does not campaign against civil laws that allow for common-law marriage or second marriages that are not sacramental, even though such arrangements can be in violation of the laws of the Church, the Holy Father recognizes that in civil society there can be cogent reasons to enact such laws providing for civil unions which are not the same as the institution of marriage.
Pope Francis has seen civil unions as a way for governments to provide protections and health care for couples in long-term, committed relationships, whether they be siblings or friends or partners. Such arrangements are not always of a sexual nature.
The Holy Father is very aware of the suffering and alienation of homosexual individuals, gay people, who are rejected by family and society. He is also keenly aware of the parents and loved ones who also suffer because a member of their family is bullied or marginalized for being different. The demands of sexual morality are very challenging for anyone seeking to lead a life of faithful discipleship. We do not serve people well by falsely claiming that we can change the Decalogue. Our task is to show people that we love them and care about them and that together we can strive to be better people, more generous, more courageous and more faithful to what God is calling us to do.
You are of the same mind as Pope. God will do the justice and reveal the truth
@@joaquimdesouza9503
I'm with you! Was just thinking the same thing.
Great response J
chastity doesn't have to be a struggle once we can see the happiness of us not needing the act when my lifestyle is not too open with procreation.
thank you Jason for clarification :-D
Well said. Very well said!!
What is the core issue?...are you saying that same-sex union should be okay? Are you saying it is Biblically acceptable?...
Pope has committed a huge sin against body of Christ
Don't Condemn dear💜 PRAY🙏
Can anyone site the original interview that was cut up?
Why did the Pope or the Vatican...... FAIL to offer clarification? They know the world heard this and many traditional Catholics have had their hearts broken over this.
In the UK it is now legal for heterosexual relationships to have a civil union. Hetero couples tested the issue in court, contested by Gay rights.
The only thing I will say is that Jesus Christ is NOT PLEASE with bergoglio
They mistranslated the word "convivencia" for "civil". The translation is coexistence .
Native Spanish speaker here. The supposed mistranslation was "convivencia" for "union", not "civil". And they mean the same thing...
@@theauntless you beat me to it 🤣
www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/10/28/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-same-sex-civil-unions oops you're wrong, but dont worry, its ok to treat gay people with different beliefs like human beings :)
@@samuelrincon4407 Oh pulling out the alt left 'America Magazine'? No thank you.
It's not ok to treat anyone with disordered tendencies as anything less than the child of God they are called to be. Those of us who embrace the battle of this (or other) disordered activity of lies is only following the father of lies and not the one True loving Heavenly Father.
@@michaelverde4844 do you actually have a good conception of what "alt left" means? Do you understand that if joe biden took the political compass test, he would be classified as an right wing authoritarian? I know a lot of people don't respect your opinion because your old and its scientifically proven that as you get older you get more stubborn and close-minded, but I am honestly asking you what tf you actually think is the alt-left. If accepting gay people is alt left then wtf are communists? alt alt alt alt left? what perception of the political realm do you actually have? please tell me, I am so intrigued.
Let the pope clarify every word he pronounced for our purity and of the clarity of the do ctrines.
Matthew 7:15-20
King James Version
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Your video has very little volume. Couldn't watch it.
Very helpful as a parent to navigate
Everything the Pope says is "out of context", and "misinterpreted". At what point does one conclude that it's that way on purpose? Never?
Love the video. Its a great response. Jason your volume is way to low.
The comment about civil unions was taken from an interview about the Argentine same sex marriage law. Cardinal Bergoglio at that time suggested civil unions as a lesser evil. People never commented so negative about that until now. "Some have surmised that Francis is proposing pushing civil marriages in all countries. It seems clear he is just suggesting civil unions in countries that already have “gay marriage” or look like they may soon get it. His repeated references to civil unions only as an option instead of “gay marriage” over the past decade make this even clearer. It is also worth noting that the Argentine law on civil unions has nothing about what happens in the bedroom and is open to any two adults living together for an extended period and somehow dependant on each other. One of Francis’s top advisors also indicated that such civil unions “do not in themselves imply sexual relations.” Thus, one can imagine Francis is talking about a civil union in general or specifically a type of civil union that does not imply sex, rather than creating a special category just for romantic homosexual partners." www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2020/10/full-text-proves-francis-meant-civil-unions-instead-of-gay-marriage/
No matter how to cut it, to endorse civil union between homosexuals is to endorse gay sex. It's self-deceit to tell oneself that two gays will have a civil union "to be covered" and yet not have sexual relations. Such naivete is laughable. The contention that that civil union is not civil marriage is true, but it completely misses the point, which is that by endorsing civil unions -- even as an alternative to gay marriage -- the Pope endorses gay unions. This is so contrary to Church teaching that, despite the technical legal difference between gay civil union and gay marriage, the practical effect is the same: The Pope says gay sex is just fine with him. As if we didn't already know. Look at his scandalous failure to rein in James Martin and other promoters of gay sex. We need a new Pope.
@@saints51 If it's about creating civil unions specifically for gay couples then I agree that there's an implicit support for gay sex. Either it has to be as a way to reduce the damage from gay marriage, as a lesser evil, or as some kind of general cohabitation contract that doesn't say that it's meant for gay couples but for everybody who wants it, which may be what the Argentine law on civil unions is about.
In Amoris Laetitia 251 there's an exact copy of the text from the congregation of the faith about homosexual unions in 2003: “as for proposals to place unions between homosexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family”. I think that indicates that the pope respects that earlier document by Ratzinger.
I can't believe that the pope supports gay sex, because this is just way too far from church teaching. It would require the church to abandon the doctrine that sex is restricted to the marriage between man and woman. Either that means they have to open up marriage for gay couples, which is clearly not supported by the pope or open up sex for non married couples, which is also completely out of the question. You can't say that gay couples can have sex without being married, while keeping man-woman couples restricted to marriage.
He changed the doctrine about the death penalty, but he never indicated that he would change the doctrine about homosexuality. So far I still think that people are seeing too many problems with this civil union comment now.
@@dirkbaeten6949 If you can't believe the Pope supports gay sex, then try explaining away that: 1) civil union is meant to cover unions of gay people in countries where gay marriage is seen as just a step too far; 2) Francis himself views civil unions as the lesser of two evils, knowing full well that the union is for the purpose of legally uniting two gays just short of marriage; 3) virtually the entire gay community is elated at Francis' statement, taking it as an endorsement of their lifestyle from the Pope himself; 4) the Pope has been thoroughly tolerant of the teachings of James Martin; and 5) given several days to "clarify," the Pope has failed to do so. You are simply refusing to see the truth. The Pope has virtually told you that he endorses gay sex, and to such a degree that he would see gay partners "covered by the law," or words to that effect. Why do you not believe him? Because "this is just way too far from church teaching"? That didn't stop him from -- as you admit -- "chang[ing] the [Church] doctrine about the death penalty." Your words.
Acknowledging the truth is a much higher value than defending a Pope whose teachings on a point of morals violate the Church's teachings.
Father Augustino’s video explains very clearly what transpired. “What did the Pope Actually Say” Father explains the mis-quotation mis-interpreted and mis- understood , interview
You believe he is of GOD🤔
2 explanations to comprehend him🤷🏽♂️
Satan speaks in puzzles
Because
He literally can’t be honest
Devil bi two paths
That multiply
Satan
In the Bible (John 8)... the Pharisees brought to Jesus a woman who committed adultery; instead of Him preaching up & down about the evil of adultery, Jesus said that whoever has no sin should cast the first stone. Didn't Pope Francis just basically do the same? Looks like Jesus is saying that knowing the laws/commandments is important, but our Primary duty is to love & respect others, and to leave the judging to God as to who will go to hell. I think we should ask ourselves, at this time, are we acting more like the Pharisees?
If one follows the Holy Father from the start , he is attempting to express to the secular world that the mercy of God displayed on earth by his Son our Lord Jesus, is to be shown to those who believe and those who do not believe. I interpret Pope Francis praying that the rights of all should be protected by law, free of prejudice and discrimination. Pope Francis stays, as Our Lord Jesus seen through the Gospel, from judgments. Instead he says we need to show respect for all of creation regardless of our following Christ.
The russian production, stress russian, informs me more of what the producer wanted to send out than that what the Pope is quoted as saying. Holy Mary and St Joseph keep us safe from the works of the evil one.
🙏 we aren’t waiting on the television productions for Papal leadership!!!!!!!
Our pope has to stand before all mighty God ,at the end of his life to. Do not be afraid, as pope John Paul 11 said.
Grace.
I love the language Pope Francis uses. He is ruthless. Similar to my personality *lol*
@Douglas Perry and a celebration of a lot of people does not matter to me if it's Christmas. What matters to me is that I am happy to celebrate Christmas not because of the pope, not because of the Catholic doctrine, but because I know my Lord and Savior's birthday is on Christmas. It should be only between the individual and God. Hope you have a blessed Christmas with Jesus too.
@Douglas Perry wish there was a funny reaction to this comment about the bath houses.
@Douglas Perry just as long as you have your nativity set up outside I'm sure that's enough. His birth was not the first Mass. So no need to worry to be specific on a time to go to Mass. Just make sure you're going on Holy days of obligation :-) Holy days, Sundays, Saturday night vigils of the Sunday eve Mass. Amen. We haven't had midnight Mass since before September 11th.
@Douglas Perry thank you for saying that and you're welcome. I try to tell it like it is, sometimes I feel I'm coming off rude but I don't think so. I notice God still loves us even when we think of Him, each day many moments of the day. Remember we can't the things we have here to heaven with us, but we have something more in heaven. SO I think of it this way, God doesn't want anything but us. He wants us to live our lives the way He wants us to see us live the lives He made for us. I have to try and stay positive as much as I can. Wish others can do the same :-)
This whole confusion about the understanding of a different language by Americans points out the weakness in the American system of these last 50 years...no basic latin or other Language as they DO teach everyone in European countries. It gives them an edge.
You are Fact checking a dude that actually supports Gay marriage. We are living in the Last Day..Jesus is coming soon
And the dude happens to be the alleged "pope". We ARE indeed in the end times.
Pope francisco given very spiritual talks in very simple manner , are they who heard those live on what they heard ?
Jason I did a simple google search of Argentinian civil law. It states the following which I will write as it is written in the webpage of argentina's goberment.
Estas en pareja = are you a couple
En caso de estar en pareja, ambos pueden acceder a distintos beneficios si legalizan su relacion de convivencia = In case you are a couple, both can have access to different benefits if you legalized your convivial relation.
Estan en pareja y quiren legalizar su relacion? = Are you a couple and want to legalize your relation?
Existen dos maneras de hacerlo: (There are two ways of doing it) pueden contraer matrimonio o asentar la union civil/convivencial. (You can get married or establishe your civil/convivential union)
Jason, I would like to say that eventhough civil or convivential union seem to be the same or at the same level or cathegory, there is a clear disctinction between getting married (which corresponds to civil marriage/union here in the usa) and establishing the union that can be civil/convivential. We have to take this into consideration so that we dont accuse the Holy Father of something that he didnot say. Just because Argentinian law uses the word civil it does not correspond to civil marriages here in the US. Argentinian law makes a clear distinction between marriage and civil/convivential unions. Not only that, but even in the word they use for each of them is very different. For marriage they use the traditional word "contract" marriage and for the other they use the word "establishe" your union civil/convivential. (The lader is not a marriage, its a union) we dont have these diffent types for people, we only have civil marriages and that is why we cannot pressume that the Holy Father is speaking of the same thing when he says "union de convivencia"; moreover, he did not even used the word civil (it was put in purpose iether by the director of the film or by the first media outlet who made the translation of the spanish words of the Holy Father) I would even venture to say that the Holy Father did not use the word civil because he knows that civil in the US means marriage and he probably knows the americans always make noise because noise makes money if every one talks about it in social media outlets that are always monetized. I am afraid all those making this big fuzz and attributing this controvertial words to the Holy Father they do it on purpose so that they can monetize the news; something that in not only shameful but pure evil, to make money at the expence of the reputation of the Holy Father.
As I read the law of Argentina it is not the same marriage and civil/convivential unions. One is marriage the other a union and both are offered by the state to the people which gives them legal protection which include benefits, duties and rights, which are different depending on what you chose (marriage or civil/convivential union)
I would like to clarify that the Holy Father did use the word civil; but again, I still think that in Argentinian Law civil union does not mean civil marriage as we have it here in the US.
@@johna1495 That is your opinion, I guess; yet, lawmakers - and those benefitting from such civil licences to be recognised as partners (aka 'marriage', of some sort) - do understand it as marriage = making one legal body out of two. What you point out is only that the requirements for valid Civil Union licenses differ from those applied to Civil Marriage (the religious bit is not required or licenced by the state). A Marriage, for instance, includes adultery and non-consummation as reasons for invalidating or undoing the terms of the state licence i.e. divorce, a Union does not, however it does or it may include some Unions between siblings/ relatives, and guarantees a swinging lifestyle to all (even if one partner later disapproves), divorce here merely being a matter of a letter of state-affirmed disavowal.
If two people (or more, for that matter) want to guarantee inheritance or property or childcare, this can already be done - legally, without getting the state to licence its approval of a type of coupled-union. These means are called contracts, a solicitor or notary may draw these up and approve them (not a few hyper-wealthy souls insist on them now as legally binding pre-nuptial-agreements) - moreover, the state does not need to licence them for something that they are not (alternative forms of marriage, without its rigorous demands).
;o)
They have a right to be part of their families....nothing wrong with that. .they come from families
Thanks Jason, this helped. I don’t know why but I always get confused when it comes to infallibility. I knew that this case wasn’t but it’s discouraging when by either the pope’s or the media’s fault lies are spread. Perhaps God allows it so we can gain a deeper understanding of the issue by wrestling with it.
This didn't need explanation. Not surprised christians are confused. Isn't it a pre requisite for belief?
I believe the prime duty of catholic church is not to advocate for civil laws or rights. Catholic church should inspire Lgbt community to repent, confess and receive Holy Communion. Receiving Holy Communion everyday will heal them surely in a short span of time and they could also lead a normal life, it depends on one's faith. Catholic church should arrange fasting and prayer service worldwide every Sunday for the healing of Lgbt community. This way we all could show mercy towards this community. Remember them everyday in our personal prayers.
Great
Like I speak Spanish and that doesn't mean that, like convivencia civil no significa unión civil
Before I get to my actual comment, I wanted to point out that the sound on this video is terrible. It's extremely quiet, even with my volume all the way up.
Now, with that out of the way...
What if a same-sex couple (two men, or two women) decides to not act on their same-sex attractions? They decide to be celibate and not cross any sexual lines, but they want to be married so that they can spend their lives together. They share their finances, their homes, etc. They even sleep in the same bed, but don't go past cuddling and hugging and a kiss on the forehead. Is THAT a marriage that perhaps the Catholic Church can accept? I'm aware that would be something extremely rare, as I can't see very many people wanting to get married but sexual intimacy not being included. But for argument's sake. Let's pretend it is something that comes up.
Good question. The Church understands marriage to be a complete gift of one's self to the other (emotionally, physically, etc). So, at the altar, the two promise one another to do this, and to welcome children into that union, should God bless them in that way. Then, they leave the church and speak those vows through their bodies. This is when their union is consummated. They're renewing their wedding vows in the flesh. However, our culture first requested to have sex without marriage, and now some seek marriage without sex. But God's design for the sacrament of marriage is that the two would become one flesh. Marriage, then, is not primarily about what two people do (live together and care about each other), but what the two become: An image of Christ's love for his Chuch. Jesus left his father and mother, and gave his body (on the cross) to his bride (the church) so that we could have his life within us. Marriage is created to be a sign of this (See Eph 5). The Church simply does not have the authority to change the teaching that has been given to her from God. I hope this helps. Also, see: www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/9432/ and the other content at chastity.com. God bless you.
Jason are you ever in need of a videographer and editor?
We're not in a position to hire right now, but are always open to volunteer help. God bless!
The heart is not the hormones.
Ppl are sooo gullible, believe what they hear without considering the real facts. Too ready to condemn
Did Poe say you did or didn’t go to hell ?
Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Jason I agree the statement was not magisterial....but, in this day and age what can be defined as a definitive act. 'Csuse I've been told even an encyclical defined and written as intended for the entire Catholic faithful is not necessarily magisterial. This I can't understand, because then everything seems ambiguous and we then can never truly define an actual application if this magisterial truth. If it applies but for every 150 blue moons then how can we call it a persisting spiritual protection from errors of faith and morals.
Ok. But how come he hasn’t clarified. ??? He doesn’t clarify anything. I think this can lead to a loss of faith. Especially in those who are on the edges. They’re trying to figure it out and there like huh????And why do you have to explain it. Shouldn’t he.??? Not trying to be sarcastic. Just trying to wrap our brains around so many things he’s said is upsetting!!! God bless you and Thankyou for all you do
I thought that gigantic rock was 7 months ago not 72 hours ago *lol*
Thank God for the reformation. Same sex union is not the gospel
Fellow Catholics and Christians, I am not trying to bash this guy, he is also a child of God, but what he is saying is not the truth. We believe in the tradition of love. Gay people are our brothers and sisters and they didn't choose to be gay. They didn't. No more than anyone chose to be over 6 feet tall. Why be ashamed of being 5'9''? If you are looking for evil, look first within and, after done with that, speak out about the real injustices in this world.
How do change the suggestion, if at all, to be friends with or be involved in a family members life if they are unapologetically living in a homosexual relationship, having young kids yourself? Where is a line drawn? Or for your kids to be friends with someone openly lives that lifestyle?
You should love such people as your neighbors and brethren in Christ. You should teach your children to love and respect all people, regardless of their lifestyle. That is the gospel. The church commands us to take care of everyone unconditionally including prisoners and convicted criminals. If you cannot love others, you do not love Christ.
Don’t let the current Pope destroy your faith!
Coexistencia civil is not union civil. Is civil coexistence. Please don’t use internet translators. Get a Spanish speaking person to explain you.
Please stop confusing people.
www.americamagazine.org/faith/2020/10/28/what-pope-francis-really-said-about-same-sex-civil-unions oops you're wrong, but dont worry, its ok to treat gay people with different beliefs like human beings :)
Please never start a video with "Unless you've been living under a rock..."
WHY?
@@teresamauricio2523 It doesn't add anything. Jason could just as easily have started with "I want to address Pope Francis' statement..." without the implied telling off to anyone who wasn't aware of it.
I saw the news as soon as it came out, but the start to this video still put me off enough to decide not to watch the rest of it.
@@petermcgowan1705 so you want to tell him what to say and not say in his own video.. even though he was not insulting anybody? LOL
@@FabMakeUp101 I thought that was the beauty of platforms like TH-cam: that content creators can get instant feedback from their viewers. Jason, of course, does not have to take my suggestion if he disagrees. If you thought there was something Jason - or any other content creator - could have done better, how would you have worded it to make it clear that you weren't 'telling them what to do?'
And yes, I think telling someone that they must have been living under a rock is insulting.
Wow. These American Catholics only like Popes that speak their rhetoric. I am a Spanish speaking native and the Pope clearly supports same sex civil unions because many countries do not have same sex marriage. The Pope is revealing God's love for not only gay people but the relationships they have with their partners. Move on please, this is getting old. I am pretty sure there are more straight Catholic divorces than LGBT people who want to get married. Talk about that.
Around the houses. Gave up when you got to the biology lesson on rabbits. 65mins to tell us a couple of lines in a documentary. Less is more brother.
even if really pope did a mistake that's not a way to react to it
"More and more, My faithful Remnant is being defined by the evil all around them. Now you have 'sanctuaries' of sin in the world where those who live in sin go unchallenged by authorities. Even worse and more far-reaching is the Pope's approval of homosexuality.* He is approving of the same sin that chose My Wrath in Sodom and Gomorrah. This has far-reaching effects on the whole world. PRAY that this Pope realizes he is the Vicar of Christ - a symbol of obedience to My Commandments in the world. He is leading millions astray! Moreover, he is listening to the wrong spirit and in this decision he is not infallible.
" I warn you, DO NOT obey just title. Pay heed to the fruits of what those in authority stand for. These are nefarious times. TRUTH is a victim."
Read Psalm 4:2-3. Holy 💘
@Samuel Rincon not quite, but try again. May the Lord forgive you for how you blaspheme His most Holy name.
I don't know why I'm laughing at you saying bunnies
It is Modernism, expressed as a personal opinion, and that personified by a reigning Sovereign Pontiff .. Ambiguity, bundled in error, and wrapped with confusion. The emotional driving force and any emotive responses to it are summed up thus: Go! Make a mess ..!
O Mary conceived without sin : Pray for us who have recourse to thee.
God bless. ;o)
Is Popesplaining now in the dictionary? This Poe is the king of weaponized ambiguity. Remember he told the clerical abuse victim that “God made you gay”.