I love the part about watching grown men open boxes and holding and caressing on their knives like it was a loved one! So true!! I laughed so hard! Great video!
The omega spring was the reason I ditched on a Griptilian and went straight to the Para 3, as someone living very far from the US too, I know it will take ages to get some replacements!!!
I had the same experience. Bought a bugout, broke the spring in a week. Benchmade wanted me to send it back and pay shipping to send it to them instead of just shipping me omega springs, so I returned it with free shipping, and bought a pm2.
I just bought a bunch of extra omegas. I mean they are cheap and many places with tooling make non BM branded springs that work better than factory. I highly suggest spare parts.
@@RadDadisRad But should you really need to buy a bunch of them and change them out?. Shouldn't the knife just work?. I wouldn't want to carry around springs and a torx set just to have to field repair a knife.
That grip is all about profit for BM. Cheap scales n internals, s30 yu can get under $60,easy, just a $$maker. I own a Tenacious between BM n Spydie. Case, Buck, CSteel,etc.🔪
Finally a video about broken omega springs! Mine lasted probably three months max. Getting new springs in czechia or sending the knife to benchmade pretty much wasn't an option. So I made my own springs and it works better than original ones :D
I had exactly the same problem during a two weeks vacation. The knife became half dangerous and half useless... Benchmade has sent me a replacement spring free of charge here in Europe, but now I never carry a benchmade only, and when travelling with one knife, I go for a Spyderco.
I've seen so many people on youtube video comments saying they've never had a problem with the omega springs. And yet, here you are. I hope you can get new springs in some kind of timely fashion.
If you buy a bug out, be proactive buy springs as a replacement. I’ve had mine for over 2 going on 3 years and still riding on the original. I use my knife hard I’ve torn it open dozens of times to clean it and customize hardware. Great knife.
I'm from Oregon, where Benchmade is headquartered and I only own one. It's a pricey "fidget flipper". But then again, all chichi $$$ knives are nowadays.
@@RadDadisRad I mean the majority of people don’t want to pay over $100 for a product they have to modify with aftermarket products in order to insure it remains usable. They’ll just buy something that doesn’t require that.
@@griffinm9 yes. I'll never own another BM. Omega springs...and auto springs are GARBAGE from them. Sold all of mine. Had 7 at one time......never again. They can keep their butterfly tax.
I don't know if I'd say "won't let you down." Benchmade's warranty is pretty great compared to spyderco. Plus spyderco's obsession with red lock tight doesn't speak volumes to their belief that their own knives could be maintained or disassembled. I've been told to pound sand when it came to having my spyderco military fixed under warranty, and it basically just needed a new scale because it chipped around the screw. After market would have had me covered if spyderco hadn't put it together with permanent thread locker. They are not as reputable in the warranty department as they should be considering their cost.
You are a funny gentleman. We are like giddy school children around knives. My wife has norwegiian ancestry, and early on in our marriage, I asked for a Norwegian Knife to honor her ancestry for my birthday. She got me a Helle Dokka. Beautiful Knife, but it came very dull from the factory (duller than a butter knife). Once we sharpened it, it is truly beautiful and purposeful. IT IS my back up knife, and I used it when I go camping. My Bugouts have been pretty reliable, and I put them through hard use. You must have received the one bad one in a while.
Maybe a bit of r&d could have prevented that. But what can you expect from America's premier knife maker? That stuff costs money. Meanwhile my cheap China knives keep on going.
That para 3 is built like a tank! Bug out is a cool blade shape but can’t bring myself to pay so much for what feels like a cheaply built knife. This reinforces my thought... Thanks for sharing.
I’d like to check that out, I have the Manix 2 lightweight and even with athletic shorts on you can’t tell it’s clipped in your pocket sometimes, and I think the Para 3 lightweight is even lighter.
I can't find a whole lot wrong with that statement. It is an excellent super sharp slicy wonderful everyday carry and it comes in a lot of varieties 👍😎🤘
I’ve had numerous Benchmades over the years. Never had one go out. Not saying one won’t, but they’re not as fragile as people say in my experience. I think the problem is with people pulling back on the omega springs on one side only. You need to pull back on both sides of the Omega springs at the same time. If not you can expect problems.
Buy a Ganzo knife from AliExpress that uses a similar mechanism. You can steal the wire-spring (called an Omega spring I think) from the Ganzo to fix your Benchmade. Might come in faster than a replacement directly from Benchmade. I don't understand why they don't include **several** extra springs with each new knife...
Because Benchmade would rather you send the knife in and wait several weeks forcing you to buy a second knife because you can't live without one of their knives in your pocket.
I would suggest skipping step one(buying the Benchmade) and go right to step two. Buy the Ganzo. Save big bucks. Use it forever or until you lose it and buy another. The price penalty for buying American made knives is just ridiculous. China makes really good knives too. I would greatly prefer to buy American made knives, but they have priced themselves out of the market for the most part.
I love the Bugout and Nick saves everyone’s ass. I’ve never had an issue with my omega springs but I put a drop of oil in the axis area to help prevent wear in any rub spots.
That part is called the omega spring you pretty much have to send the knife in to Benchmade! Good luck with that because the time it will take them to fix that lol…….you can find the omega spring on eBay if you wanna replace it your self, which is pretty simple!
That sucks man!! Never owned a BM for that reason. Went with Para 3 instead. Love it and bought multiple variants now to test different steels. Just don't pry with any of them or tips will break. Your YT video part was hilarious and true.
I have the bugout and several para3s , para3 is my first choice , I always carry it, when I carry my bugout I still have my p3 in my pocket also, want be caught without it.
I gotta say, people that include fidgeting as part of reviewing a knife make me ignore most of what they say. Knives are tools not toys. With that said I appreciate you showing the bugout's weak point. I hope you recover from you fidget addiction.
If you go to a local arts and craft store, you’ll be able to buy some memory wire. Buy some memory wire with a similar thickness to the broken omega spring. Take out then omega spring that is still intact as a template and all you’ll have to do is bend the memory wire to the same shape (or close enough) and cut it to length and you’ve got unlimited omega springs for under $5. Ive done it with my 940’s broken spring and now I just make them as I need 👍🏻
Mine did the same Farmer..I got replacement ones on Amazon (12.00) that are a little stiffer in a good way and look stronger as well.. they've outlasted the factory ones so far and I fidget alot and cut a little
I know it's not a common occurrence, but failures like this make me question the axis lock reliability. For EDC is not a big deal, but if you depend on your knife for work or while being out in the woods, this is definitely worrisome.
@@TheMasonator777 the omega springs are installed in the locking mechanism, which is all metal. They don't engage the plastic handle, as seen on the knife close up towards the end.
ok, so disclaimer, I'm a spyderco fanboy, that said, i love my M4/aluminum tanto bailout. It's seen about as much use as your bugout did in the video, it usually goes in my pocket when I go into town (going into town is a monthly thing vs at home it's a PM2 or Shaman depending on what I'm doing in the yard. But even though I have the bailout in my pocket, I keep an old crkt m16-01kz, a Kershaw Launch 9, streamlight and CR123a batteries in a sunglasses case, and Spyderco Manix in my man-purse/backpack. And in the car there are a couple fixed blades and a Ka-Bar LDK in my wallet, and a gerber keychain knife (zip blade) on my keys, and you know I think I'm realizing I might have a problem...
Cold Steel American Lawman - not as fidgety (that being said - I still fidget with it like there's not tomorrow, works super well) but that lock will basically never let you down.
Right, for use around a farm or hard use in general I want the strongest lock available. If you want a toy then you can't be disappointed when it breaks as all toys do.
I'm sorry you had this issue with the bugout. The Springs are sometimes known to break. Benchmade should replace them for you if they ship that far. I absolutely love the knife and sounds like you do as well. If you want to look for a third party selling the springs they are called Omega Springs. This might help find some faster.
I finally broke down and bought a Bugout with titanium scales from SMKW. It arrived with a semi-sharp blade that was off-center and had pretty serious lock-stick. The SMKW website describes the blade as 'satin finish' but it's the usual stonewash finish. I returned it with a note listing these quality problems and asked them to send a replacement that was free of defects. They issued me a refund, instead. Meanwhile, the $23 Bugout clone I bought from Ali Express continues to function well and remains in my EDC lineup. And for what it's worth, unless you have a 'real' Bugout to compare it to, I bet 99% can't tell it's a fake.
As a similarly large human I suggest you invest in a good fixed blade knife. It may not be fidgetable but they are much more reliable and lower maintenance. My latest has been a White River Knives Backpacker Pro, I’m floored with it and it’s nice to not worry about it doing it’s job
As a similarly large human I have to add that I also reached this conclusion but the restrained fidgeting ability of a fixed blade necessitated me to start flipping and spinning the fixed blade knife which resulted in more than a few deep cuts and also one hole in the centre of my palm.
@@lourieholl that is the danger of fixed blades. I too have super glued my cuts shut and even pierced the top of my foot when I dropped one. The trade off in reliability is still worth it for me
I feel so gutted for you my friend, they should already come with a spear set of omega springs in the box for the money they charge. But this is just a typical example of a knife loving person’s problem when companies don’t give proper support for every country. Hopefully you get your replacement faster than you got the knife 😘👍
I had this problem with my Benchmade Mini Freek. I just went to my local art and craft store and bought spring wire and made one myself. It takes a little bit of patience and a few pairs of pliers, but it seems to hold up rather well as I haven't had an issue since. But I also do not daily carry it anymore. Best of luck
I had a bugout that I carried for about 8 months and never had an issue. Honestly.. I've never had a spring break on any Benchmade that I have ever owned. I currently carry a griptilian and so far so good. But..........this is the main reason why I got rid of all my other Benchmades in the past. I couldn't 100% rely on them. I still don't feel completely confident in my griptilian, and it all boils down to the omega springs. But .. I always carry a backup knife. Usually a Vic hunstman. Keep us updated on the spring situation. I bought some from Etsy. Hell, I would be willing to send them to you.
Same thing happened to my Nakamura 484-1, I'm in Canada and didn't want to ship my knife to benchmade so I got some omega springs from etsy. They work like a charm!
I'm exactly just like you. Im constantly playing with my knife collection, especially my Spyderco collection. I love Spyderco knives, I probably have 20 Spydercos and love them all and still want a lot more of them. Plus I mainly buy all black Spydercos. The blade all black and the handles and hard wear. I think the all black just looks bad ass. Great video my friend.
100% get a pm2 it was my 1st spiderco. I got a benchmade superfreek at the same time, I think the pm2 gets carried 98 days out of a 100 over the superfreek.
Same boat. I love Benchmade but absolutely hate the axis lock. Springs break all the time and, until recently, there were no aftermarket springs available. I ditched folders for three years because of this issue and went with small fixed blade instead. I'm moving back to folders now for fun and am getting a Spyderco Shaman mostly because of your videos. Hah. Hope all is well in Norge, man!
Yeah, the Omega springs is definitely an Achilles Heel for Benchmade. Omega spring is made from 304 steel. 316 is better in my opinion. That said, it's rare that an Omega spring will fail due to snapping.
A fixed blade knife is essential for outdoors/emergency carry and use. Taking a folder is asking for trouble. The benchmade has a known problem. The omega spring breaking and causing knife failure is the reason I quit buying benchmade knives. It's the most common problem with the axis lock system.
Benchmade's quality control has dropped off in the last few years that I have noticed. Sad to see since they are one of the big knife manufacturers that has been around a while. Hopefully they dont fall into the same pit as gerber
I believe since you're outside the US benchmade will ship you new omega springs, if not there's some Etsy sellers who sell them but I'm not sure if they ship to Norway. Some people also have tutorials on TH-cam on how to make them with guitar wire
They will shipped in EU im from Croatia and I bought 940 Osborn and I realy like that knife . And in first 3 month one spring brake and I sent mail to Banchmade and they sent mee a spare Omega spring. And I had it 7 days and one omega spring just broke. So I order feu . But that is not answer.
That sucks man, I've had zero issues with mine, I have both the basic black one and one with flytanium scales that I bought this year at bladeshow and like you, I fidget with them all the time I'm at home lol and open packages, along with some clothes tags. Hope you can get the omega springs replaced soon!
Same thing happened to me during my highschool graduation trip. Had a mini hk axis and the omega spring broke during the first night of the trip. Luckily I had a backup tenacious as well. Never left home without a second knife starting from that day.
Had both my omega springs snap on my all black bugout 2 weeks ago. I feel like there is a manufacture issue. Recently bought an Osbourne mini and its lasting longer. You have a lifetime warranty, use it.
Should have bought a houge exo4 34452 . If you can get your hands on this model it's spectacular. I've beat this model up real serious like and am very impressed. Now seeing your video a year later. I would buy a deka. I've had both bugout and the deka. The tuffness is immediately noticeable. The deka is a much more capable unit. Much more.
i have several benchmades. bugouts, mini bugouts, 940s,.. on every single one of them one or both omega springs broke. and so did the replacement springs. and i'm not giving them any hard use.
I will admit that if I was really bugging out, or going to war, I would probably take a pm2 instead of any omega lock knife, BUT when I show my collection to my friends, everyone loves the bugout. People who have zero knowledge of knives beyond the cuttyness just seem to love the blade shape and the feel (g10 and ti... The grivory usually gets the tap test.. what dis?). I carry a bugout to work (construction) most days, when I have pro techs microtechs spydercos, hogues, quiet carrys, we knives, giant mice, trm's and a bunch of budget options. Bugout is a winner, but you have to budget for scales. This puts a new one with titanium scales on the under $200 club, even with extra springs. Android yes, I have extra omega springs, though I have yet to need one since my first *used* mini griptillian found in a field in a park in VT in 2005 (not a denial, just the facts). Easy to carry, lightweight and handsome. I have 4 of em.
I have one big and one small Griptilion and I really like them but they stay in my case most tes because of those springs. Different knife makers are now making the same action on their knives but with heartier springs ( SOG ). So don't give up on that kind of action. From 🇨🇦...stay safe and sharp.
I'm sure it has already been said in the comments many times, but Omega springs can randomly fail at any time. That is the reason I no longer buy knives with this lock type. It happened to me on a BM I owned decades ago, very soon after I bought it. It's a super fun lock to play with, though.
The “Super” Freek is the only BM I’ve had that has never broken on me(that has the axis lock). And, oddly enough, it is also my oldest Benchmade and by far my most carried/hardest used. I’m guessing thicker springs or a different supplier…Thanks for the video…
Seems like the Bugout has a problem with the omega springs breaking all the time. I have 12 Benchmades, and no spring breakages, and I fidget constantly! In the end though, carry 2. Shaman, and an Adamas...go big or go home! HAHA!
Man this happened to mine after 2 months. I ordered a replacement set off Amazon that claims to be stronger and picked a back up set just in case. I’ll do updates every 3 months in case you want to see how those are doing. Good luck.
That really sucks. Should have taken the shaman on your vacation. I have a bugout in carbon fiber but only carry when I want something to look fancy or be very lightweight. My edc is a Spyderco pm2. They will not let you down.
The shaman is a good knife but not really for EDC. I hate the whole thing about the back of the blade hitting your thumb. Not a fidgety knife. I have one and don't carry it as much as my Para 2&3 because of that plus the size.
Same thing happened to mine haven't fixed it yet and that happened over a year ago kinda just turned me off from Benchmade, I was excited because they're local to Oregon but so is Kershaw so that's what I keep in my pocket now
Probably just for fidget factor variety plus that Bugout is seriously lightweight, even for its size. However, I have one Bugout (as a collector) and think they feel cheap & overly flexy in the hand… especially for their price.
SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU. THAT'S WHY WHEN I GO AWAY FROM HOME. I TAKE A COLD STEEL. THE TRIAD LOCK NEVER FAILS, AND OF COURSE I TAKE ATLEAST 4 KNIVES WITH ME, AND ONE IS ALWAYS A FIXED BLADE. NO MATTER HOW STRONG A FOLDER IS, THERE IS A CHANCE IT COULD BREAK, EVEN A COLD STEEL. LIKE THE SAYING GO'S. "BETTER TO HAVE IT AND NOT NEED IT, THAN TO NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT".
The horror..the horror. A friend of mine has that knife. I liked it on TH-cam, but really don't like it in hand. I have the rather cheap Spyderco Tenacius right now and like it way more than I thought I would! BUT I am interested in trying out that locking mechanism - S.O.G. has their own version and it looks like the right thing for me. The new Flash for instance! I hope you have a nice holiday in spite of your mishap with the Bogout.
Every time I get a new Benchmade the first thing I do is take it apart and swap out the original omega springs with some aftermarket ones. Haven’t ever had a problem with the aftermarket springs but have had 3 of the original springs break on me. It’s no fun and my main complaint with Benchmade
Glad to be your secret weapon!
Nick, you’re always my go to for knife breakdown instructions!
Did you cringe a bit when E broke out the power tools?
Get over yourself.
I was just about to tell this guy to ask you for proper guidance!!
Oh hi Nick.
"Caressing them like a loved one", that was hilarious
I love the part about watching grown men open boxes and holding and caressing on their knives like it was a loved one! So true!! I laughed so hard! Great video!
The omega spring was the reason I ditched on a Griptilian and went straight to the Para 3, as someone living very far from the US too, I know it will take ages to get some replacements!!!
I had the same experience. Bought a bugout, broke the spring in a week. Benchmade wanted me to send it back and pay shipping to send it to them instead of just shipping me omega springs, so I returned it with free shipping, and bought a pm2.
I just bought a bunch of extra omegas. I mean they are cheap and many places with tooling make non BM branded springs that work better than factory. I highly suggest spare parts.
@@RadDadisRad
But should you really need to buy a bunch of them and change them out?. Shouldn't the knife just work?. I wouldn't want to carry around springs and a torx set just to have to field repair a knife.
That grip is all about profit for BM. Cheap scales n internals, s30 yu can get under $60,easy, just a $$maker. I own a Tenacious between BM n Spydie. Case, Buck, CSteel,etc.🔪
@@patrickriarchy6054 a field repair on a benchmade is sticking a stick in the hole
I love how the shots of a man enjoying a scenic stroll in the wilderness is accompanied by aggressive metal lmao so manly
Finally a video about broken omega springs! Mine lasted probably three months max. Getting new springs in czechia or sending the knife to benchmade pretty much wasn't an option. So I made my own springs and it works better than original ones :D
Chad move
@@servantofyeshua2313 How are facts insulting?
@@TheJesterOAO being a chad is a good thing 😂
I had exactly the same problem during a two weeks vacation. The knife became half dangerous and half useless... Benchmade has sent me a replacement spring free of charge here in Europe, but now I never carry a benchmade only, and when travelling with one knife, I go for a Spyderco.
I've seen so many people on youtube video comments saying they've never had a problem with the omega springs. And yet, here you are. I hope you can get new springs in some kind of timely fashion.
If you buy a bug out, be proactive buy springs as a replacement. I’ve had mine for over 2 going on 3 years and still riding on the original. I use my knife hard I’ve torn it open dozens of times to clean it and customize hardware. Great knife.
I am from South Africa, the possibility of an omega spring breaking, is the reason why I haven't buy any Benchmade knife.
I'm from Oregon, where Benchmade is headquartered and I only own one. It's a pricey "fidget flipper". But then again, all chichi $$$ knives are nowadays.
With the availability of aftermarket omegas you’d be crazy to not buy one. They are stupid reliable.
@@RadDadisRad I mean the majority of people don’t want to pay over $100 for a product they have to modify with aftermarket products in order to insure it remains usable. They’ll just buy something that doesn’t require that.
@@griffinm9 yes. I'll never own another BM. Omega springs...and auto springs are GARBAGE from them. Sold all of mine. Had 7 at one time......never again. They can keep their butterfly tax.
You can make your own using memory wire.
Stick with the Spyderco. Will Not let you down. Good luck.
I don't know if I'd say "won't let you down." Benchmade's warranty is pretty great compared to spyderco. Plus spyderco's obsession with red lock tight doesn't speak volumes to their belief that their own knives could be maintained or disassembled. I've been told to pound sand when it came to having my spyderco military fixed under warranty, and it basically just needed a new scale because it chipped around the screw. After market would have had me covered if spyderco hadn't put it together with permanent thread locker. They are not as reputable in the warranty department as they should be considering their cost.
@@SurvivalistMedia Good thing Benchmade's got a decent warranty...you're gonna need it.
@SurvivalistMedia I like BM sometimes but Spyderco is 50x better.
You are a funny gentleman. We are like giddy school children around knives. My wife has norwegiian ancestry, and early on in our marriage, I asked for a Norwegian Knife to honor her ancestry for my birthday. She got me a Helle Dokka. Beautiful Knife, but it came very dull from the factory (duller than a butter knife). Once we sharpened it, it is truly beautiful and purposeful. IT IS my back up knife, and I used it when I go camping. My Bugouts have been pretty reliable, and I put them through hard use. You must have received the one bad one in a while.
This dude sums us all up in our small knife community. Fun channel.
You are a funny man!!! Great sense of humor!! Glad you took a break!!
Thank you!
Nick is the man! He’s led me through all of my knife maintenance projects!
“Lets call it the Bugout and have a bespoke piece of piano wire be a single point of failure.” -Benchmade
Maybe a bit of r&d could have prevented that. But what can you expect from America's premier knife maker? That stuff costs money. Meanwhile my cheap China knives keep on going.
There seems to be a lot of brand equity in Benchmade products.
In a pinch, you can always make new omega springs with memory wire. I believe omega springs are either 25 gauge or 22 gauge wire.
I flinched when you removed the blade. The bugout is a huge pain in reassembling the blade screw part.
That para 3 is built like a tank! Bug out is a cool blade shape but can’t bring myself to pay so much for what feels like a cheaply built knife. This reinforces my thought... Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Rob!
Para 3 lightweight is the BEST!
You got that right!
It's a damn good one. That's for sure.
I’d like to check that out, I have the Manix 2 lightweight and even with athletic shorts on you can’t tell it’s clipped in your pocket sometimes, and I think the Para 3 lightweight is even lighter.
I can't find a whole lot wrong with that statement. It is an excellent super sharp slicy wonderful everyday carry and it comes in a lot of varieties 👍😎🤘
I returned my bugout after hearing stories of the spring breaking. Hoping for a speedy spring shipment!
Thank you!
I’ve had numerous Benchmades over the years. Never had one go out. Not saying one won’t, but they’re not as fragile as people say in my experience. I think the problem is with people pulling back on the omega springs on one side only. You need to pull back on both sides of the Omega springs at the same time. If not you can expect problems.
You confirmed my suspicion that those springs are garbage
They can be. Benchmade QC can be mehhh. That being said my Grip has been going strong for years and it's never broken its spring.
This bugout knife brought me here and now i am hooked to this channel....
Buy a Ganzo knife from AliExpress that uses a similar mechanism. You can steal the wire-spring (called an Omega spring I think) from the Ganzo to fix your Benchmade. Might come in faster than a replacement directly from Benchmade. I don't understand why they don't include **several** extra springs with each new knife...
Because Benchmade would rather you send the knife in and wait several weeks forcing you to buy a second knife because you can't live without one of their knives in your pocket.
I would suggest skipping step one(buying the Benchmade) and go right to step two. Buy the Ganzo. Save big bucks. Use it forever or until you lose it and buy another. The price penalty for buying American made knives is just ridiculous. China makes really good knives too. I would greatly prefer to buy American made knives, but they have priced themselves out of the market for the most part.
I love the Bugout and Nick saves everyone’s ass. I’ve never had an issue with my omega springs but I put a drop of oil in the axis area to help prevent wear in any rub spots.
Exactly why I will not carry a benchmade. I have had 3 break after using them for less than a month. No more axis locks for me.
That part is called the omega spring you pretty much have to send the knife in to Benchmade! Good luck with that because the time it will take them to fix that lol…….you can find the omega spring on eBay if you wanna replace it your self, which is pretty simple!
Usually they send it to you. I´m from germany and received it via mail.
@@choimeca last time I called about one they told me I had to send it in!
@@knifeaddict1014 🤔 maybe im a Lucky guy.
They sell them on Etsy too.
Very easy to replace the spring if you have a new one
That sucks man!! Never owned a BM for that reason. Went with Para 3 instead. Love it and bought multiple variants now to test different steels. Just don't pry with any of them or tips will break. Your YT video part was hilarious and true.
Exact Same but for the pm2, awesome knives
I have the bugout and several para3s , para3 is my first choice , I always carry it, when I carry my bugout I still have my p3 in my pocket also, want be caught without it.
I gotta say, people that include fidgeting as part of reviewing a knife make me ignore most of what they say. Knives are tools not toys. With that said I appreciate you showing the bugout's weak point. I hope you recover from you fidget addiction.
If you go to a local arts and craft store, you’ll be able to buy some memory wire. Buy some memory wire with a similar thickness to the broken omega spring. Take out then omega spring that is still intact as a template and all you’ll have to do is bend the memory wire to the same shape (or close enough) and cut it to length and you’ve got unlimited omega springs for under $5. Ive done it with my 940’s broken spring and now I just make them as I need 👍🏻
Mine did the same Farmer..I got replacement ones on Amazon (12.00) that are a little stiffer in a good way and look stronger as well.. they've outlasted the factory ones so far and I fidget alot and cut a little
I know it's not a common occurrence, but failures like this make me question the axis lock reliability. For EDC is not a big deal, but if you depend on your knife for work or while being out in the woods, this is definitely worrisome.
I imagine it’s the unsupported flexible plastic scales, not the lock. I don’t see it failing in aluminum, steel, or titanium.
@@TheMasonator777 the omega springs are installed in the locking mechanism, which is all metal. They don't engage the plastic handle, as seen on the knife close up towards the end.
I'm pretty sure failures like this with the omega spring are common occurrence
If you’re going to depend on a knife, carry a full-tang fixed blade with Micarta handles.
ok, so disclaimer, I'm a spyderco fanboy, that said, i love my M4/aluminum tanto bailout. It's seen about as much use as your bugout did in the video, it usually goes in my pocket when I go into town (going into town is a monthly thing vs at home it's a PM2 or Shaman depending on what I'm doing in the yard. But even though I have the bailout in my pocket, I keep an old crkt m16-01kz, a Kershaw Launch 9, streamlight and CR123a batteries in a sunglasses case, and Spyderco Manix in my man-purse/backpack. And in the car there are a couple fixed blades and a Ka-Bar LDK in my wallet, and a gerber keychain knife (zip blade) on my keys, and you know I think I'm realizing I might have a problem...
940 is better
Spyderco Siren...absolutely corrosion proof and very strong.
I have one!
When it comes to lock strength and reliability, i trust my Cold Steel Recon 1 and Mini Recon 1 as my reservist and civilian carry.
Axis lock is stronger
@@rommelthedesertfox3089it's not even close to the tri-ad lock strength
@@techfrank2431 yea it’s stronger than the triad lock
@@rommelthedesertfox3089 I can't tell if you're joking or you lack knowledge when it comes to locking mechanism strength knives
@@rommelthedesertfox3089definitely not stronger
Cold Steel American Lawman - not as fidgety (that being said - I still fidget with it like there's not tomorrow, works super well) but that lock will basically never let you down.
Right, for use around a farm or hard use in general I want the strongest lock available. If you want a toy then you can't be disappointed when it breaks as all toys do.
Agreed. What a fantastic knife
My945 just broke a AXIS lock spring... it was only couple months old.. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Fidgeting Redrawal Syndrome has struck me recently. Good to hear you had that looked at asap!
I will send you an Omega spring free of charge, because of the Hat you are wearing.. GO GIANTS!!!
It smells like some october baseball this year!!
I'm sorry you had this issue with the bugout. The Springs are sometimes known to break. Benchmade should replace them for you if they ship that far. I absolutely love the knife and sounds like you do as well. If you want to look for a third party selling the springs they are called Omega Springs. This might help find some faster.
Thanks, Josh!
I finally broke down and bought a Bugout with titanium scales from SMKW. It arrived with a semi-sharp blade that was off-center and had pretty serious lock-stick. The SMKW website describes the blade as 'satin finish' but it's the usual stonewash finish. I returned it with a note listing these quality problems and asked them to send a replacement that was free of defects. They issued me a refund, instead. Meanwhile, the $23 Bugout clone I bought from Ali Express continues to function well and remains in my EDC lineup. And for what it's worth, unless you have a 'real' Bugout to compare it to, I bet 99% can't tell it's a fake.
As a similarly large human I suggest you invest in a good fixed blade knife. It may not be fidgetable but they are much more reliable and lower maintenance. My latest has been a White River Knives Backpacker Pro, I’m floored with it and it’s nice to not worry about it doing it’s job
As a similarly large human I have to add that I also reached this conclusion but the restrained fidgeting ability of a fixed blade necessitated me to start flipping and spinning the fixed blade knife which resulted in more than a few deep cuts and also one hole in the centre of my palm.
@@lourieholl that is the danger of fixed blades. I too have super glued my cuts shut and even pierced the top of my foot when I dropped one. The trade off in reliability is still worth it for me
I’m looking forward to your repair video! I’m gonna stick with Spyderco. I have the Delica 4 and the Pacific Salt 2. I want a Para 3 Lightweight.
I laughed when you said "I should have brought 7" lol
things like this made me realize the spyderco shaman is the last knife you will ever need.
Lol that thing is a boat anchor…
@@shadeshiest22 heavy? yes. let you down? NO.
Still love and carry Benchmade knives but I've probably replaced a half dozen Omega Springs (I have a Griptilian, mini grip, bugout, mini freek).
I feel so gutted for you my friend, they should already come with a spear set of omega springs in the box for the money they charge. But this is just a typical example of a knife loving person’s problem when companies don’t give proper support for every country. Hopefully you get your replacement faster than you got the knife 😘👍
I had this problem with my Benchmade Mini Freek. I just went to my local art and craft store and bought spring wire and made one myself. It takes a little bit of patience and a few pairs of pliers, but it seems to hold up rather well as I haven't had an issue since. But I also do not daily carry it anymore. Best of luck
Thank you!
I had a bugout that I carried for about 8 months and never had an issue. Honestly.. I've never had a spring break on any Benchmade that I have ever owned. I currently carry a griptilian and so far so good. But..........this is the main reason why I got rid of all my other Benchmades in the past. I couldn't 100% rely on them. I still don't feel completely confident in my griptilian, and it all boils down to the omega springs. But .. I always carry a backup knife. Usually a Vic hunstman. Keep us updated on the spring situation. I bought some from Etsy. Hell, I would be willing to send them to you.
Hope you had a great vacation, you deserve it. And hopefully you'll get the knife fixed.
Same thing happened to my Nakamura 484-1, I'm in Canada and didn't want to ship my knife to benchmade so I got some omega springs from etsy. They work like a charm!
When the knife bug bites...it bites hard! Got into collecting about 5 months ago and now addicted! LOL!
Oh, it got me hard!!
I'm exactly just like you. Im constantly playing with my knife collection, especially my Spyderco collection. I love Spyderco knives, I probably have 20 Spydercos and love them all and still want a lot more of them. Plus I mainly buy all black Spydercos. The blade all black and the handles and hard wear. I think the all black just looks bad ass. Great video my friend.
Heard about some spring issues, and opted for boring, but sturdy Cold Steel.
Maaaaaan that stinks! Benchmade should be able to take care of you hopefully! I love my Benchmade Bailout, would recommend!
Bugout? More like "tactical office knife" came close to getting one glad I went with a PM2. 😎👍
Haha! Would love a Pm2!
100% get a pm2 it was my 1st spiderco. I got a benchmade superfreek at the same time, I think the pm2 gets carried 98 days out of a 100 over the superfreek.
Spyderco Native 5 Salt is still my go-to!
Your production value is very good. Subscribed….
Hello from NC! I don't go to the corner store with just 1 knife...I have 3 to 5 knives on my person or within a short reach all the time.
I’ve stayed away from omega spring knives for this reason
That stinks for you. Hopefully you get your omega springs quickly and are back up and running soon. Stay safe!
Thanks, man!
Same boat. I love Benchmade but absolutely hate the axis lock. Springs break all the time and, until recently, there were no aftermarket springs available. I ditched folders for three years because of this issue and went with small fixed blade instead. I'm moving back to folders now for fun and am getting a Spyderco Shaman mostly because of your videos. Hah. Hope all is well in Norge, man!
Axis lock is one of the strongest and best locks on the market
Sorry you had that issue! I’ve had mine for a few years of hard use and I’d like to send it in for a tune up but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Yeah, the Omega springs is definitely an Achilles Heel for Benchmade. Omega spring is made from 304 steel. 316 is better in my opinion. That said, it's rare that an Omega spring will fail due to snapping.
A fixed blade knife is essential for outdoors/emergency carry and use. Taking a folder is asking for trouble. The benchmade has a known problem. The omega spring breaking and causing knife failure is the reason I quit buying benchmade knives. It's the most common problem with the axis lock system.
Benchmade's quality control has dropped off in the last few years that I have noticed. Sad to see since they are one of the big knife manufacturers that has been around a while. Hopefully they dont fall into the same pit as gerber
or leatherman
@Cloud do tell
I believe since you're outside the US benchmade will ship you new omega springs, if not there's some Etsy sellers who sell them but I'm not sure if they ship to Norway. Some people also have tutorials on TH-cam on how to make them with guitar wire
Thank you! Guitar wire would be cool!
I grabbed a pack of 20 for $8 off of eBay before
They will shipped in EU im from Croatia and I bought 940 Osborn and I realy like that knife . And in first 3 month one spring brake and I sent mail to Banchmade and they sent mee a spare Omega spring. And I had it 7 days and one omega spring just broke. So I order feu . But that is not answer.
Get yourself a big chonkers titanium frame lock ZT and this will never be a problem again.
That sucks man, I've had zero issues with mine, I have both the basic black one and one with flytanium scales that I bought this year at bladeshow and like you, I fidget with them all the time I'm at home lol and open packages, along with some clothes tags. Hope you can get the omega springs replaced soon!
And that’s why I love my Spyderco Navajas.
Same thing happened to me during my highschool graduation trip. Had a mini hk axis and the omega spring broke during the first night of the trip. Luckily I had a backup tenacious as well. Never left home without a second knife starting from that day.
Word!
Had both my omega springs snap on my all black bugout 2 weeks ago. I feel like there is a manufacture issue. Recently bought an Osbourne mini and its lasting longer. You have a lifetime warranty, use it.
Should have bought a houge exo4 34452 . If you can get your hands on this model it's spectacular. I've beat this model up real serious like and am very impressed. Now seeing your video a year later. I would buy a deka. I've had both bugout and the deka. The tuffness is immediately noticeable. The deka is a much more capable unit. Much more.
Axis lock is the easiest lock to repair. You can put stick into axis lock hole and still use the knife.
damn, my bugout has not had any problems with the omega springs.
i have several benchmades. bugouts, mini bugouts, 940s,.. on every single one of them one or both omega springs broke. and so did the replacement springs. and i'm not giving them any hard use.
I will admit that if I was really bugging out, or going to war, I would probably take a pm2 instead of any omega lock knife, BUT when I show my collection to my friends, everyone loves the bugout. People who have zero knowledge of knives beyond the cuttyness just seem to love the blade shape and the feel (g10 and ti... The grivory usually gets the tap test.. what dis?). I carry a bugout to work (construction) most days, when I have pro techs microtechs spydercos, hogues, quiet carrys, we knives, giant mice, trm's and a bunch of budget options.
Bugout is a winner, but you have to budget for scales. This puts a new one with titanium scales on the under $200 club, even with extra springs. Android yes, I have extra omega springs, though I have yet to need one since my first *used* mini griptillian found in a field in a park in VT in 2005 (not a denial, just the facts). Easy to carry, lightweight and handsome. I have 4 of em.
I have one big and one small Griptilion and I really like them but they stay in my case most tes because of those springs. Different knife makers are now making the same action on their knives but with heartier springs ( SOG ). So don't give up on that kind of action.
From 🇨🇦...stay safe and sharp.
Thank you, Jim!
I'm sure it has already been said in the comments many times, but Omega springs can randomly fail at any time. That is the reason I no longer buy knives with this lock type. It happened to me on a BM I owned decades ago, very soon after I bought it. It's a super fun lock to play with, though.
The “Super” Freek is the only BM I’ve had that has never broken on me(that has the axis lock). And, oddly enough, it is also my oldest Benchmade and by far my most carried/hardest used. I’m guessing thicker springs or a different supplier…Thanks for the video…
Seems like the Bugout has a problem with the omega springs breaking all the time. I have 12 Benchmades, and no spring breakages, and I fidget constantly! In the end though, carry 2. Shaman, and an Adamas...go big or go home! HAHA!
I love your videos! I was sad to see this, but not surprised I’ll admit. 🙌
I got really excited there for a second when you said BladeHQ was shipping to Norway... Panduro might have some wire that will do the job.
- I have used it for this... a box, kids shoes, a kids shirt... haha, so true, the EDC tasks
That's why I own 7 Spydercos and 0 Benchmades
I do like my Spydercos!
I think it's funny they felt the need to make a mini version of this. They should have made an XL instead.
that flimsy spring is ridiculous! a buck 110 is heavy as an edc but good luck breaking that. if its on your belt you dont even feel it.
Now you know that "Two is One & One is None"!!!!
Man this happened to mine after 2 months. I ordered a replacement set off Amazon that claims to be stronger and picked a back up set just in case. I’ll do updates every 3 months in case you want to see how those are doing. Good luck.
Update us.
@@greengeep they are still going strong and have not failed. Feel free to sub, I’m planning a long term update video on this one here soon. 👍
Mine went out fast too. I got wolf springs they are definitely higher quality there’s a little more resistance but you get used to it pretty quick.
That really sucks. Should have taken the shaman on your vacation. I have a bugout in carbon fiber but only carry when I want something to look fancy or be very lightweight. My edc is a Spyderco pm2. They will not let you down.
The shaman is a good knife but not really for EDC. I hate the whole thing about the back of the blade hitting your thumb. Not a fidgety knife. I have one and don't carry it as much as my Para 2&3 because of that plus the size.
Same thing happened to mine haven't fixed it yet and that happened over a year ago kinda just turned me off from Benchmade, I was excited because they're local to Oregon but so is Kershaw so that's what I keep in my pocket now
Someone needs to send this man a box of Omega springs....now!
why arent you using your spydercos anymore?
Probably just for fidget factor variety plus that Bugout is seriously lightweight, even for its size. However, I have one Bugout (as a collector) and think they feel cheap & overly flexy in the hand… especially for their price.
I use them everyday! Especially the Shaman!
SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU. THAT'S WHY WHEN I GO AWAY FROM HOME. I TAKE A COLD STEEL. THE TRIAD LOCK NEVER FAILS, AND OF COURSE I TAKE ATLEAST 4 KNIVES WITH ME, AND ONE IS ALWAYS A FIXED BLADE. NO MATTER HOW STRONG A FOLDER IS, THERE IS A CHANCE IT COULD BREAK, EVEN A COLD STEEL. LIKE THE SAYING GO'S. "BETTER TO HAVE IT AND NOT NEED IT, THAN TO NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT".
The horror..the horror. A friend of mine has that knife. I liked it on TH-cam, but really don't like it in hand. I have the rather cheap Spyderco Tenacius right now and like it way more than I thought I would! BUT I am interested in trying out that locking mechanism - S.O.G. has their own version and it looks like the right thing for me. The new Flash for instance!
I hope you have a nice holiday in spite of your mishap with the Bogout.
Channel is a gem, as nick would say ;) subbed!
You only need to bring one knife when you go on vacation… if it’s a Spyderco.
I can’t bring myself to go very far from home with nothing but a benchmade that has the axis lock.
3 omega springs broken in the last month. I was so confident it wasn’t a common enough issue to fret about it but here we are.
Every time I get a new Benchmade the first thing I do is take it apart and swap out the original omega springs with some aftermarket ones. Haven’t ever had a problem with the aftermarket springs but have had 3 of the original springs break on me. It’s no fun and my main complaint with Benchmade