UK Athletics is F*cked

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  • @TheLongPlayUK
    @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Enjoyed putting this one together! If you prefer content like this in written form please subscibe to the newsletter: thelongplay.beehiiv.com

    • @admiralbillom7559
      @admiralbillom7559 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thanks, very informative. a pity you have to use our lord's name as an expletive.

    • @stanfordclarke8880
      @stanfordclarke8880 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was about to say the same thing? It's really unnecessary, and makes no sense?

  • @AmberFerrariGirl
    @AmberFerrariGirl 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +360

    Towards the end of Paris 24 Olympics there was a really interesting comment that I found quite shocking... the UK is one of only FOUR countries out of all the modern Olympic and Paralympic member countries (inc. Russia and tiny nations) that DON'T award our medal winners with prizes (cash, houses, land, bonds, other valuable items) when they return home... 1 of only 4 in the entire world... and think of the 3rd world and war-torn countries who still send athletes to the games, yet they support their athletes better than we do.
    And yet our football teams can afford to pay their players millions, so can the 6 out of 10 current Formula 1 teams that are based in the UK.
    There's some lessons needing to be learned.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      That is insane! But don't the gold medalists get awarded a knighthood? Like Andy Murray and Max Whitlock. That probably doesn't come with cash prizes either though. Not that Andy Murray would need it.

    • @imwelshjesus
      @imwelshjesus 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Many UK athletes are full time professionals earning a salary from the UK lottery etc. Other countries athletes are not. But, you are missing the point ALL SPORT is entertainment that must make a profit out of TV rights and commercials etc. Athletics does not. I suspect numerous sports will eventually decline to irrelevancy, including tennis and rugby and why franchise cricket and rugby 7s have been introduced, whilst sporting god soccer and golf events are being threatened by middle-eastern money. Time will tell.

    • @Rleatfitness
      @Rleatfitness 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      That’s because Britain provides lottery funding where most athletes (not all) get a yearly salary in the run up to an Olympic Games

    • @majesticpictures5715
      @majesticpictures5715 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      STOP USING THE TERM "THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES" IT S DEMEANING AND INNACURATE. The term came from the Non-Aligned Movement. Those who were not aligned with the West "1st World" and the Eastern Bloc "2nd World".

    • @truthtorpedo4068
      @truthtorpedo4068 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Modern day slavery.
      The more talented of you sprinters are of Jamaican descent, but they aren't fast enough to make the Jamaican team.

  • @godwindracing6056
    @godwindracing6056 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +408

    You forgot that the Commonwealth Games is dying too - 2 years to go and no host

    • @wss33
      @wss33 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

      Does anybody really need the commonwealth games?

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      @@wss33 Yes, I enjoy watching it on TV.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      Maybe they should just hold it in London each time.

    • @trevorwoodley3897
      @trevorwoodley3897 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No one needs the Stockholm Syndrome Sufferers Sport meet. Commonwealth my ass.

    • @Dattebayo3089
      @Dattebayo3089 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      India needs. Cuz it's the only tournament where india comes in top 3-4 countries at medal tally 😂​@@wss33

  • @mwezimwezi9618
    @mwezimwezi9618 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +402

    The commercial model is not sustainable because for the most part athletics is a minor sport outside of the Olympic cycle.

    • @FitzElda
      @FitzElda 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      Sadly this is the crux of the issue.

    • @mattryan7124
      @mattryan7124 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@FitzEldathis is basically the case for every US NGB that isn’t already around a major televised sport.

    • @terminateshere
      @terminateshere 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Odd thing is - it's one of the only Olympic sports to get any real coverage outside the olympics. Sports like rowing, track cycling and swimming get only very occasional attention mid-Olympiad, even if they are GB medal prospects in making. Wonder how they're doing?

    • @LongbranchOlivetti
      @LongbranchOlivetti 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Athletics is only a minor sport if you are completely ignorant to it. In the same sense, I could say that football is a minor sport because I take no notice of it. Athletics has thousands of hours of coverage every year including the Diamond League, all levels of the Continental Tour, World and European championships every two years and the UK champs every year. Furthermore, your Olympic cycle term is meaningless given that we are constantly in an Olympic cycle; we are currently in the cycle of the 34th Olympiad.

    • @mwezimwezi9618
      @mwezimwezi9618 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Err, objectively speaking, which my comment was (I.e. not my personal view), athletics is a minor sport outside of the Olympics. Even with taking the Diamond League, World Championships into account (thousands of hours…🤔?). It is not possible to objectively compare athletics with football. Subjectively, one can make all sorts of comparisons of course, however contrived they may be. I agree that my use of the term Olympic cycle does need clarification because it is not clear what I was referring to. Nevertheless, were athletics a major sport UK Athletics would be more sustainable as a commercial model. Regards

  • @kuramobay2445
    @kuramobay2445 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +426

    Excellent report. I didnt know UK Athletics is a private company and that its mandate is so broad. That's crazy. I thought UK Athletics was setup to distribute lottery money to athletes, etc. Athletics as a whole should be under the government with corporate sponsorships, subsidies, etc.

    • @AntonioMinichiello-n6m
      @AntonioMinichiello-n6m 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      It's UK Sport that is set up to distribute Public funds that come from the Lottery. UK Athletics is a National Governing Body that is awarded Lottery funding from UK Sport.

    • @arnoldd7073
      @arnoldd7073 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Why should it be a government organisation? Must all sports be ren by government bodies? Why is athletics different?

    • @kuramobay2445
      @kuramobay2445 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      @@arnoldd7073 Sport is something everyone should do in one form or another. For starters, if most people did a sport it would reduce the national health bill tremendously and guess who's taxes pay for that? Exactly. So, it's a national health issue that affects everyone which in my view makes it a matter for a government minister to lead.

    • @simonrook5743
      @simonrook5743 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Many organisations are also private companies, they need to be to manage VAT, tax affairs etc. all the political parties are also listed companies.

    • @bigchristie
      @bigchristie 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@arnoldd7073 all part of the money game.

  • @pinklemonade6597
    @pinklemonade6597 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    I didn’t realise how little I knew about how the athletics system in the UK was run until now! Very informative vid thank you

    • @user-bj5lo2bo2u
      @user-bj5lo2bo2u 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Matthew Johnson coming over from Australia as a 'career move' will also be the de ath of him lol

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    There is loads of money swimming around in athletics from TV rights, sponsorship, lottery funding, etc. If UK Athletics is spending beyond its means then that’s just mismanagement, salaries are too high, or someone is getting backhanders……

  • @wilflava
    @wilflava 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Brilliant video, the financial situation really is quite embarrassing with only the very tip top athletes getting funding. Jacob Fincham-Dukes just came 5th at the Olympics and has been jumping in and around 8m for years now. After his 5th place on Tuesday 6th August, he went back to his full time job that Friday. If he got proper funding we could have a Long Jump medallist and potentially Rutherford's successor

    • @KenanJHS
      @KenanJHS 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It really is unbelievable

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Sad really. Glad you enjoyed the video

    • @ofs82
      @ofs82 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      It didn't help that BBC's appalling coverage of that day (showing nothing but the 1500m and the 200m live, and ignoring all events to show buildup packages, repeats of Hodgkinson's race the previous day and medal ceremony and showing the same videos of Kerr talking smack and of Keely as a child over and over then discussing it while you could see races going on in the background, including the 400m semis that Hudson-Smith was running and the LJ final, then only showing them as a video on Twitter/X, meant that unless they watched past the end of the athletics program to the catch-up section at around 9:30, nobody who doesn't already follow athletics closely would even have known Jacob Fincham-Dukes existed. Is it any wonder the athletes have to continue to work full time, and can't get funding to support their sporting endeavours or sponsorship deals with coverage like that?

    • @SJ-cc2il
      @SJ-cc2il 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@ofs82 I was on holiday during much of the athletics and it was WONDERFUL to watch the german coverage - NO STUDIO TIME except when they change to a different sport, and actually showing field event attempts. BBC is so dumbed-down it feels like a Gaby Logan chat show focussing on the retired athletes sitting on the sofa.

  • @Slider5320
    @Slider5320 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    Problems started long before 2007 mate. Things were not great under Neils De vos.
    The problems started with UK Sport in 1997, with a medal centred approach and their control over the funding meant they became the puppet masters to UKA.
    Athletics cannot govern itself anymore.
    Tony Minichello had to fight like hell against UKA who were unintentionally trying to throw a spanner in the work for Jess.
    Neils de vos even said they should just give all the money for UKA to cycling, as that’s where the medals are. Ignoring that cycling only has 70 countries at the Olympics compared to 180 in athletics.
    The national coaching structure was dismantled in 1997, and wha happened since is UKA have been like an apple rotting from the core outwards.
    So what success happened under Neils was really just coaches who developed in the 80’s and 90’s carrying onwards.
    The business side that you refer to started with Andy Norman in the 70’s who created the international grand prix.
    There would be 3 international GP’s, what today would be diamond leagues. Beginning, middle and end of season.
    Jo Coates didn’t resign over a safe guarding issue from before she was CEO, she resigned because she was incompetent.
    She also lost one of the diamond league events.

    • @user-cx4ll4rj1t
      @user-cx4ll4rj1t 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I can remember the corruption in the 90s because anyone competing at national level could see it and feel it clearly.

    • @EightFrancs
      @EightFrancs 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Genuine question here, not trolling.
      Is Tony Minichello really guilty of what he was convicted for?

    • @user-bj5lo2bo2u
      @user-bj5lo2bo2u 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Matthew Johnson coming over from Australia as a 'career move' will also be the de ath of him lol

    • @user-bj5lo2bo2u
      @user-bj5lo2bo2u 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't blame others for the UK failing to down fall

  • @fperacoli
    @fperacoli 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Here is a theme for a future video. How much money is necessary to mantain a top GB Olympic athlete? I mean, to pay for training, travel, staff, competitions, salary and so on... It wil be nice to compare Athletes from diferent sports: athletics, swimming, cycling.

    • @markwood7045
      @markwood7045 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      great suggestion!!

  • @onjadar
    @onjadar 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    Really Great video sharing some very insightful info into UK athletics. You made a very accurate point about the bbc's use of the bbc iplayer. In our house, we got fed up (literally) by the bbc coverage at this olympics, we often just went to eurosport and discovery plus to watch the events. BBC's coverage on bbc 1 or 2 was mostly people in the studio speaking and recycling footage whereas we were wanting to see the actual raw footage of the events as they were happening. I understand some sports like swimming and cycling took centre stage for bbc 1 and 2, but man, they definitely did not do well enough to promote athletics to the UK viewers. Not sure whether it was a little intentional.
    Oh yeah, new sub as well. Great vid.

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      There was a particular night where I was watching a Live feed on Eurosport at say 7pm. I then switched to the BBC to watch some sprint races (as I find MJ very insightful) where they then showed what I had watched on Eurosport. I was thinking “… I saw this over an hour ago” ha. The coverage was frustrating at times.
      Glad you enjoyed the video, welcome to the community 🙏🏾

    • @onjadar
      @onjadar 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheLongPlayUK I experienced the same exact thing. By athletics night 3 or 4 I stopped crossing over for the MJ/Jess/Denise/Gabby analysis (which I too quite enjoy) because I knew bbc wasn't live with their feed. I don't know when they would've replayed it but I was back to eurosport/discovery plus by the time they probably did.

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      BBC does not have the rights to the Olympics and can only broadcast a small proportion of it... But even so I found their coverage awful. Too much chat, too much repeats and not enough live events. Also you would be watching a hockey match or something and it would get to half time and then they just didn't show the rest of the match. Not on either channel or iplayer, or even update you on the score or outcome! Crazy

    • @conordempsey8854
      @conordempsey8854 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The BBC athletics coverage was amazing in Paris, no idea what you guys are on about.

    • @thispersonrighthere9024
      @thispersonrighthere9024 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      greed ruins everything.
      as a teen in the 90's, the local channels all broadcasted the live events of the olympics.
      while one channel would broadcast one live event, another would broadcast a different live event. this way, everybody got to see whichever sport they were seeking, while the sport was taking place.
      but then the media congolomerates got GREEDY and decided to compete for the rights to olympic coverage, and did such a piss poor job of presenting the olympics, i decided to just not watch this year.
      greed is slowly destroying the entire world.

  • @KenanJHS
    @KenanJHS 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Everything about this video was so clean, from the thumbnail to the editing to the way you structured the video was perfect. You just gained a sub

    • @pensacola2015
      @pensacola2015 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      00:37 Name doesn't match De Vos's pic

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well spotted thank you both for the comments🙏🏾

  • @afolabiajayi3128
    @afolabiajayi3128 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Really really good! I am Nigerian and live in the uk now and being a lifelong athletics fan, I wanted to know the Uk scene and this has been really insighting! Congrats to Hughes and the team for the 4X100 bronze, he was flying on the anchor!

  • @Battismore-Blue
    @Battismore-Blue 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Proof that nobody is interested in Athletics is the fact BBC cover it , if people wanted to want it Sky would have it . The Hundred is a perfect example of this , more and more games were on BBC because people aren`t interested

  • @Damon759
    @Damon759 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    My theory after watching this video is although we Team GB finished overall 7th in the global medal haul, 14 gold medals as far as I’m concerned is not good enough. Probably the worst turn out since Athens 2004. If what I’ve heard about sexual abuse towards female athletes is true, that is pretty concerning. There has been a lot of athletes regarding track and field or in the pool taking time out of their sport to deal with their mental health. I think the overwhelming success of the London 2012 and Rio 2016 Olympics have put a grave amount of pressure on our athletes to deliver big and that means surpassing 20 golds. Unfortunately now that the rug has been taken from under us by vast management changes, I’m afraid other nations have sussed us out and taken over. You just have to look inside the velodrome which we’ve dominated for donkey’s years and seen what the Dutch have achieved. If Team GB wants to reclaim their medal haul glory in LA in 2028, drastic change needs to happen immediately starting with the track and field. A lot of the old guard are on the verge of retirement or announced their retirement and fresh talent urgently need to be found.

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Everything's ABOUT MONEY. Put up enough money the talent will come. And with it supreme success. There is a USAIN BOLT level talent walking around the streets of London. But we will never know. Because there's no incentive to even TRY.

    • @Damon759
      @Damon759 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@fender1000100 My thought after watching both the men’s 400m and 1500m finals is that you always speed up as much as possible until you cross that finishing line. As soon as Matthew Hudson-Smith and Josh Kerr respectively saw those Americans catching up on them, they should’ve accelerated like their lives depend on it. That includes ignoring the lactic acid build up. Also if we didn’t have the National Lottery which celebrates its 30th anniversary this year, our country’s mass sporting achievements of the past decade or so in the Olympics would never have existed.

    • @Stephens_Rocket
      @Stephens_Rocket 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@Damon759 Ignoring the lactic build up? You have no idea how these guys are running on their limit as efficiently as they can. Matt Hudson-Smith ran the 5th fastest 400m time in history. He just got beaten by someone running the 4th fastest time in history.

    • @Damon759
      @Damon759 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Stephens_Rocket Mmmm! 🤔

    • @TracyGooding-xi7dp
      @TracyGooding-xi7dp 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fender1000100 If you have 'podium potential', you get ~£30k per year, which can be stopped if you have an off year. So that's the world top ~10 in any sport. If you can run but also kick a football, the EFL has 1000s of players and they all earn more each year.

  • @BarronBarca
    @BarronBarca 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The fact that athletes have to go and sell provocative pics and vids on Onlyfans just shows how screwed 95% of athletes are.

  • @lostinfailure
    @lostinfailure 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    A similar situation is occurring with team GB's climbing team as well. A lot of the team is unable to travel to events and not just athletes, supporting coaches as well; very few are fortunate like Toby Roberts who won the Gold in Paris who had been racking up a lot of sponsorship deals on merit. However, for people who are less fortunate and are only starting out on their competitive career I can imagine the amount of sacrifices that has to be made on top of the cost of living crisis affecting a lot of people. Although, with the win in Paris I am hopeful that the potential for British climbers is now more known than ever and that the sport can continue to grow and I do hope that all of team GB regardless of age category and disabilities are able to be given support so that they can have the chance to shine.

    • @andrew30m
      @andrew30m 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Climbers like a lot of other minority sports would rather go out and do it, rather than travel or pay to watch it,

  • @mumblesmoaner8996
    @mumblesmoaner8996 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Most athletes “professional” status isn’t sustainable without govt funding from the lottery without which the athletes couldn’t make a living. Sponsors aren’t coming forward because there’s no return. People generally aren’t interested. All the doping. It’s boring to watch only hyped by overpaid commentators & pundits. Let’s face it more people play bowls that do any jumping or field events. These athletes are basically funded to do a hobby. If UK athletics mission is to get people into sport is wants to take a leaf out of Park Run & forget the elite

    • @mattpotter8725
      @mattpotter8725 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think you need both. I think you have to fund the base adequately in order to get the talent able to come through but you do need the role models winning World Championship and Olympic medals to inspire the generation. You would hope that the elite athletes be able to get sponsorship deals of their own to be able to at least in part, and quite a large part, support themselves and the costs to keep them competitive, but we do need them. Professional sport isn't just a hobby, it's a career. You may not see it this way but it is and been for a long time, it's not like they can be a postie on the days they aren't competing!!!

    • @ofs82
      @ofs82 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      But if people aren't interested... why is the London stadium selling out for the Diamond League? I get some of the points, and certainly by the end of the Olympics, after the 25th ridiculous career-best performance to win a medal by an athlete who only enters races on the US calendar and is subject only to USADA testing as a result, there's an element of fatigue and disillusionment that, given the history of the sport, rightly or wrongly, permeates the whole thing (from insane career outlier performances like Kenneth Rooks all the way up to Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone, who has ALWAYS been an insane talent, working with Flo-Jo's coach) in a way that it wouldn't if it were only one or two athletes standing out like a sore thumb Ben Johnson-style. And then it becomes hard to watch the DL and follow those athletes because they go straight back to the US calendar and we won't see them again until Tokyo 2025.
      That's part of the problem, that unless the athletes are British athletes who can get the sponsorships and be prominent, the way those Müller sponsorships used to be, then there is a lack of follow-up after the Games. There's essentially a global travelling circus of the DL and the Continental Tour Gold, and then there's a separate US scene which doesn't get screened in Europe, and which appears to be more of a wild west, but a lot of elite athletes are travelling out to it, and it means that it's hard to get invested in those athletes when we never see them race live outside of major championships. To be sustainable, for events to succeed, and for UKA to grow and get sponsorship attraction and so on, there needs to be ongoing support, there's a large casual audience for the Olympics and to a lesser extent the World Championships or Commonwealth Games, but many of them just watch for those championships, and need incentivising to stick around for the DLs and the Continental Tour Gold. The CTG used to be streamable on youtube, but is now behind a paywall. The DL is red button only and does not get advertised. It makes it hard to become invested in long-term rivalries or storylines between athletes, comebacks or losses of form or confidence, injuries and so on. Essentially we see the glory (or lack thereof) but we never get to see the grift that gives us the reason to back those athletes. So if we only see the athletes once every two years, and they're relegated to also-ran status, unless we go out of our way to find out, we don't know WHY that athlete was hyped, we don't know what a reasonable expectation was, we don't know why we are expected to cheer for them... and we don't become invested enough to follow that athlete afterwards, give them a groundswell of popular support and maximise their chances of attracting sponsor interest.

    • @mumblesmoaner8996
      @mumblesmoaner8996 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ofs82 the London stadium sells out once a year not a week like premiership football stadiums. For some reason funding athletes dreams / hobbies is a good thing. I’d say provide facilities for the masses. The UK has a weight / fat issue. People don’t come to the UK coz it’s done well in the Olympics. Another vanity project.

    • @SJ-cc2il
      @SJ-cc2il 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the jumps??!

    • @TheBenNagy
      @TheBenNagy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ofs82the London diamond league sells out because people see it as a day out to see international athletes.
      UKA doesn’t invest in grass roots, which has a double negative effect - we get less and less athletes in the sport and therefore we get less international level athletes, so paying viewers don’t care about national/regional athletics, only international when it rolls around once a year. They don’t engage with UK runners otherwise.
      And then also we also have a generation of people who never got involved in athletics as a kid and so don’t really care about it, they’re rather watch a random football match (or anything else) than even the British champs or even international athletics events. UKA has accidentally created a generation (probably 2 now) who don’t care about athletics because they never got involved as a kid.
      My partner is a teacher and she says no kids care at all about athletics. Only football, because they see the money there and get involved. If schools or athletics clubs did even a little bit more of getting kids involved, there would be more interest in all levels of it, simply because kids have an idea of it from being involved, even if just for a bit.

  • @rohitnath5569
    @rohitnath5569 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Superb video mate. Perhaps it's worth experimenting with different colours for your text boxes. I admit I don't have any actual issue with it being an all-white background, but I paused and thought that perhaps a colour like dark blue would be better than a white background. Just a thought. It could possibly be more visually appealing to the average viewer. Keep up the good work. The numbers will keep growing!

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Excellent feedback thank you for taking the time to comment, I’m glad you enjoy 🙏🏾

    • @TirnanHealy
      @TirnanHealy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's probably looking to keep a consistent theme with that mixture of colours (black, white & red, like TH-cam). If you look at his channel page it's quite consistent with his banner & display pic.

  • @beauzest5525
    @beauzest5525 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Solid piece of sports journalism. Concise and informative. I look forward to watching more.

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Plenty more coming, glad you enjoy

  • @alexander1989x
    @alexander1989x 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Corporate greed and corruption destroying fun since forever.

  • @danielebowman
    @danielebowman 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think you got things wrong. De Vos was a terrible leader, he inherited a good set-up. In 2012-2013 he got rid of Aviva as sponsorship claiming they'll get a family of sponsors. He failed to get any and begged Sainsburys who sponsored the Paralympics to be a sponsor, in a bad dead for UK Athletics. Basically his successor was fucked, especially as UK athletics gutted wider programs and pathways to success which meant they got less successful after London 2012. The bad management and rot started there, it just didn't yet show in the numbers.
    Also UK athletics were screwed over by Boris Johnson's desperate need to make the London Olympic Stadium into a football stadium for West Ham.

  • @alexkidd4144
    @alexkidd4144 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    Love the content coming from this channel. Can I make a small suggestion? Maybe look into the compressor/ limiter settings. The tail end of your sentences tend to fade in volume and it's a little difficult to catch sometimes.

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      I am here for all feedback, thank you for this suggestion

    • @SystemParanoia
      @SystemParanoia 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You want the expander in davinci resolve to lift the quiet parts.
      The compressor makes the loud spikes quieter.
      The limiter catches anything that might clip that the compressor couldn't handle 👍🏾👍🏾

    • @bdh711
      @bdh711 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I knew something was off with the audio but I’m not technical so I couldn’t tell 😭😭

    • @thomascolville9438
      @thomascolville9438 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can’t make anything out for the hands waving about. It’s too distracting when commentators do this.

    • @phoenixmuaythai
      @phoenixmuaythai 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@thomascolville9438please give constructive criticism and do an informative video on this topic and show us how it's done.

  • @georgeonsports
    @georgeonsports 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I learnt something today! Also I don't remember the last time I left a comment on a TH-cam video! Great report!

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel honored this video brought you back. Glad you enjoy, look forward to future comments 😅

  • @KendoPicaro
    @KendoPicaro 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    UK sports never had the Like Mike moment that the NBA had where they took one of their best athletes and turned them into a lifestyle

  • @deanrobinson2459
    @deanrobinson2459 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Apart from the 2012 games, where there were free dedicated channels that just showed the events, the BBC coverage of athletics is dreadful. Montages on repeat, 'Gabby' Gabby Logan talking incessantly and other talking heads rambling on prosaically, all while you can see the events happening live over their shoulder. Eurosport just points cameras at track and field and lets things unfold.

  • @ezeuzuka3344
    @ezeuzuka3344 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Commenting for the algorithm. you deserve it man. Love the videos

  • @dillilyeverage315
    @dillilyeverage315 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Super informative and interesting - thank you. I noticed that all the GB athletes made a point of thanking the National Lottery during their post performance interviews which got me wondering about how the funding works.

  • @madams989
    @madams989 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The bottom line is, unfortunately, athletics just isn’t a sport people want to watch on a regular basis. If it can be changed up somehow, and made more interesting to watch, more team stuff etc, somehow, maybe it’ll make more money. But as it stands i can’t see it changing as the demand isn’t there.

    • @Vintagestylewins
      @Vintagestylewins 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We literally hold commonwealth games lol England is just lazy

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      I think this too but then every athletics meet I watch is packed. Every Diamond League event is usually sold out across Europe and everyone waits for the T&F when the Olympics comes around for the competition to really “get going”. It’s a very simple sport to understand for the casual. I get that maybe a short supply means the events that happen are consumed more but it often makes me think… the demand must be there?

    • @ex4u_
      @ex4u_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Night of the 10k PBs is a great example of how to make an athletics event more inviting for punters

    • @TheBenNagy
      @TheBenNagy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      In my opinion nobody is really interested in athletics in the uk (outside of 1 diamond league a year) because there’s no support for grass roots.
      UK Athletics have LONG neglected grass roots - no getting coaches in, very little support for clubs and coaches, no support for clubs getting kids involved, no engagement with schools and the potential for getting literally a whole nation of kids into the sport.
      Nobody in this country cares about athletics because the governing body have let it languish and not supported it and not got anyone involved in it, from the grass roots level for many years - a whole UK generation since 1990s doesn’t care much about athletics - contrast that to the response it gets in USA/Jamaica.
      And then don’t forget - UK Athletics have also killed the elite / sub elite crowd - their focus on ONLY medal potential athletes is killing ambition in young athletes and the potential next stars who are 2-3 years off being internationally elite but can’t sustain an elite athletes training lifestyle with no funding and no support. So the athletes who do miraculously make it to international standard despite the lack of grass roots support end up dropping out.
      UKA left multiple top 30 world ranked athletes at home for the Olympics because they didn’t reach unrealistic qualifying standards, and UKA even ignored multiple invites for athletes from World Athletics, so that they didn’t need to support them and save themselves a little cash, while only supporting athletes that they’re banking on bringing them in some sponsorship cash.
      UK Athletics is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
      This doesn’t even go into the insane standards that UKA have for athletes to get any funding at all, and meagre funding at that.
      This was a good video but it left out so much! You could do another whole video on UKA’s lack of support for athletes, and how THAT is killing the sport. (Ironically, investing in grass roots could actually save athletics in the uk, and UK Athletics as an entity, due to actually getting people interested in athletics and competing and then the revenue streams would follow).
      I’m actually asking you personally, can you do some research and do another video on this?
      UKA has killed the sport for too long and I’m sick of it having this strangle hold on it.

    • @Josh-uh4ck
      @Josh-uh4ck 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheLongPlayUK I don't think people would find regular athletics competitions entertaining because the outcome of every track and field event will likely be the same, and there aren't as many variables in an event to keep fans engaged compared to football, tennis, cricket, etc. The simplicity of athletics is probably the reason it's not as popular as other sports.

  • @99somerville
    @99somerville 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Chiming in here from the USA. I’m old enough to remember the Olympics being for amateur athletes who participated for the love of sport. There was no taxpayer support of athletes in the USA, nor was it expected. None of the athletes had plans to make money off their accomplishments, although some certainly did. Professional sports is all big money driven by TV commercial prices. Since Most Olympic sports are not on US TV support is limited.

    • @sirsquid577
      @sirsquid577 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ah yes, the time when you'd get punished for any form of professionalism?

  • @TheBenNagy
    @TheBenNagy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    UK Athletics have strangled athletics to near death in the UK, from the grass roots up, which ironically is killing their business even further.
    Nobody is really interested in athletics in the uk (outside of 1 diamond league a year) because there’s no support for it.
    UK Athletics have LONG neglected grass roots - no getting coaches in, very little support for clubs and coaches, no support for clubs getting kids involved, no engagement with schools and the potential for getting literally a whole nation of kids into the sport.
    Nobody in this country cares about athletics because the governing body have let it languish and not supported it and not got anyone involved in it, from the grass roots level for many years - a whole UK generation since 1990s doesn’t care much about athletics - contrast that to the response it gets in USA/Jamaica.
    And then don’t forget - UK Athletics have also killed the elite / sub elite crowd - their focus on ONLY medal potential athletes is killing ambition in young athletes and the potential next stars who are 2-3 years off being internationally elite but can’t sustain an elite athletes training lifestyle with no funding and no support. So the athletes who do miraculously make it to international standard despite the lack of grass roots support end up dropping out.
    UKA left multiple top 30 world ranked athletes at home for the Olympics because they didn’t reach unrealistic qualifying standards, and UKA even ignored multiple invites for athletes from World Athletics, so that they didn’t need to support them and save themselves a little cash, while only supporting athletes that they’re banking on bringing them in some sponsorship cash.
    UK Athletics is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
    This doesn’t even go into the insane standards that UKA have for athletes to get any funding at all, and meagre funding at that.
    This was a good video but it left out so much! You could do another whole video on UKA’s lack of support for athletes from grass roots to sub-elite, and how THAT is killing the sport. (Ironically, investing in grass roots could actually save athletics in the uk, and UK Athletics as an entity, due to actually getting people interested in athletics and competing and then the revenue streams would follow).
    I’m actually asking you personally, can you do some research and do another video on this?
    UKA has killed the sport for too long and I’m sick of it having this strangle hold on it.

  • @fault.
    @fault. 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    It’s also just not a popular sport
    Unless you’re a Bolt, Phelps or Biles

    • @aliabdi2759
      @aliabdi2759 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And mo farah

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fault. ...or the Chinese women's volleyball team - their win at the 2016 Olympics is regarded as their equivalent to Germany's win at the 2014 World Cup. It was so popular that there was a blockbuster film made (Leap) starring most of their players. And their 1st round loss in Tokyo was seen as that equivalent to Germany's loss at the 2018 World Cup.

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aliabdi2759 ...and Paula Radcliffe, Daley Thompson, Linford Christie and Jess Ennis too

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      .... Wait... Does the same organization that controls Track & Field in the UK also control Swimming and Gymnastics??? WTF??? O_o I thought "Athletics" was just what Brits called T&F.

  • @TheGiantKillers
    @TheGiantKillers 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The bench mark of a good Olympics for team GB traditionally was if it won a gold medal in each of Athletics, Swimming, Cycling and Rowing. In at least half a dozen post war 20th century games, they left the track empty handed, most recently 1996, and on about four other occasions they achieved the solitary gold. They had a good games in 1980 [without Americans] and 1984 [without the eastern bloc] but really only truely excelled once, in 1964 when GB won four golds, which was amazing at the time. Team GB's 21st century performance has been actually punching above our weight, and the performance in 2024 was more in keeping with realistic expectations.

  • @kevinjohns3872
    @kevinjohns3872 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The GB team wore Adidas at the Paris Olympics so I'm a little confused with the Nike Link?

    • @JMundy168
      @JMundy168 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because it's a separate British Olympic Association deal

  • @chipsandgravy4387
    @chipsandgravy4387 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video!! We really need more people to speak about this so well done 👏

  • @maximusmarkovich3319
    @maximusmarkovich3319 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Keep up the good work!

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Appreciate you, I certainly will do 🙏🏾

  • @1972dsrai
    @1972dsrai 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I always thought the National Lottery was its biggest source of revenue or is that more for individual athletes? One problem athletics has is most people are only interested when its the Olympics and World Championships and its competing with other sports with bigger profiles and fan bases ensuring TV channels will pay more to show them.

    • @katiespencer534
      @katiespencer534 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The national lottery pay the athletes their APA grant - which more or less acts as a salary

  • @xtc2v
    @xtc2v 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    TV viewing figures are falling as everyone has broadband and tend to spend most time online. Less viewing of events on legacy media means less revenue from advertising. It is hard to make money from entertainment these days especially from an offering that is rather dull to watch compared to, say, immersive first person player games. Sport should just be a healthy hobby for all to keep fit and not tainted by money or nationalism. Those trying to make a living out of competitive events should find a more constructive way of helping their country

  • @lelobest
    @lelobest 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It could be worse, like in my country of Italy where everything is paid by the government! Majority of Italians athletes are so called policemen or prison guards and get paid to run. I always wonder how the government does not run out of money. I was in Rome for the European athletics and the stadium was empty, definitely a big loss. I hope UK athletics gets better, probably they need Lord Coe!

  • @SJ-cc2il
    @SJ-cc2il 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thanks Jordan for bringing these issues further into the public eye. There is so much wrong with UKA, you could make a whole series! Anyone remember the Athletics World Cup in 2018 held in London? Maybe not, as it was never repeated! UKA were rumoured to have lost £1million on it - some genius picked the weekend of the World Cup final and Wimbledon Final to host it. From my understanding this nearly broke them. From 2020 they made a lot of admin staff redundant, eventually closing their physical HQ in Birmingham to save money.
    It sounds like a very toxic insular culture. There's rampant favouritism in who gets coaching or team leadership roles; some coaches are "in" and others "out" if they are not Company Yes-Men. Perhaps worst of all, regarding the "cover-up", a national coach "let-go" because of "inappropriate" relationships with a GB Junior athlete. That coach has been embroiled in further similar scandals since and is banned from major events including the Olympics. UKA acts *very surprised* when asked for comments about the guy - like, you *knew* he was already accused of that kind of stuff, that's why you let him go! Shame the media never cracked that one open.

    • @jahanb2002
      @jahanb2002 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ew that's disgusting about the coach. Its heartbreaking how many predators there are in youth sports :(

  • @Av4nQuisH
    @Av4nQuisH 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i dont rlly care bout athetics in the uk but ur editing made me watch the whole vid, was quiet ineteresting and ur a great speaker

  • @TirnanHealy
    @TirnanHealy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very entertaining & informative video. I believe one of the key issues with the lack of TV deal / sponsorship money, is viewership figures aren't that high. What can be done about that? I guess people like us refining content and bringing it to a wider audience is a good start.

    • @TheBenNagy
      @TheBenNagy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      UKA has long needed to invest in Grass roots, to get more kids and people interested in the sport.
      No kids compete in athletics at school, and clubs don’t get much funding so don’t run engagement sessions & training for kids, so no one is interested in athletics in general. Has been like this for 30 years, so no wonder a whole generation doesn’t care about athletics.
      If we invest in getting kids involved in athletics, the engagement would follow. But it’s a long term plan and UKA are so concerned with saving money they won’t ever invest. They’re not fit for purpose and are killing the sport and need to be replaced.
      UK Sport also probably to blame - i hear a lot of their funding is linked to medals.

    • @TirnanHealy
      @TirnanHealy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheBenNagy interesting take, do you have any other ideas for what could revive interest?

  • @oofskzy
    @oofskzy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro your videos are so clean and sophisticated. Well done. Don't quit and you'll be a force on YT.

  • @thehousepreacher3982
    @thehousepreacher3982 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    0:56 mins "the problem started to begin". ....🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @bengraham878
    @bengraham878 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Fast forward 12 years from London 2012 and we won 10 medals instead of 6 and set numerous long standing British records. Standards were very high. Hudson Smith and Kerr had two of the best silver medal performances in the entire Olympics athletics competition. Laura Muir ran a pb and finished outside of the medals!!!

    • @christophercox9150
      @christophercox9150 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I love athletics, though admittedly only catch the Olympics, WC, CG. I thought the standards of GB athletes was excellent, as you point out. There's 200+ countries in the world sending athletes - we don't have a right to win medals. What makes it exciting for me is GB athletes being there and having a chance, having someone to root for. If GB athletes can just make the finals of their event then i'm engaged and rooting for them.

  • @resultxgroup
    @resultxgroup 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    @thelongplayuk Been in the sports biz for over 30 years and have just recently discovered your videos. Have to say that your channel is brilliant, love your style and your "to the point" delivery - and not padding it out like most other channels do. Great job, mate, keep it up. You will go far

  • @Ryan.Thomson
    @Ryan.Thomson 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Brilliant video! I’ve been a massive fan of the sport my whole life and even I couldn’t imagine much worse than sitting outside for 8 hours watching British champs. Something has to change in order to get more eyes on the sport in this country

  • @SoyArgentino420
    @SoyArgentino420 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I rarely leave a comment but I want my algorithm to give me more of this. Incredible video, really informative about something I was totally unaware of, I look forward to more

  • @champion4000
    @champion4000 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great insightful video. Well done!

  • @leithenry4661
    @leithenry4661 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel like there is alot more which could have been mentioned here. The medal performance from London to now in major championships, falling squad sizes and complaints by athletes for missing the squad etc

  • @phoenixrose1192
    @phoenixrose1192 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It’s a good thing we win golds in other events then.

  • @telboyynwa699
    @telboyynwa699 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enough said! Stands for reason why we had no representatives in most field events and very few in the track events. No exposure, no sponsorship, no money, no athletes. 😳

  • @mauricerevelle8451
    @mauricerevelle8451 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really good report. A couple of us were having a conversation during the Olympics on how the coverage had been really poor and we never got to see a lot of the track n field especially.
    I also know that some of the coverage had been sold to Disney network .

  • @brianfarrelly7151
    @brianfarrelly7151 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A well researched and presented video. Excellent - thanks.

  • @nathanielhill5887
    @nathanielhill5887 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Regarding the brodcast section, I've actually spoken to Pete Andrews, head of Channel 4 sport recently, and did a side project for them. I could give you an interview if you want?

  • @wattbenj
    @wattbenj 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I actually think we are a lot better at athletics now than we were ten years ago. It's just that we under performed at Paris 2024. We're better at a wider range of track events now than we were in 2012 and 2016, though at field events we are obviously non-starters.
    Part of the problem at London 2012 was that the media picked up Farah, Ennis and Rutherford and made it sound as though we as a nation were amazing. Everyone got excited and the rest of the British athletics set-up was completely neglected. Remember 'Super Saturday' for example. To America, that would just be 'Saturday night.'
    Edit: p.s. in 2021 both meets were moved to Gateshead. The old Birmingham meet which is now defunct, and the London meet. In 2022 just the London meet was in Birmingham, and the Birmingham meet was cancelled permanently.

  • @madtimesmedia8609
    @madtimesmedia8609 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great breakdown once again! Keep up the incredible analysis pieces (subscribed)

  • @bernardspence5294
    @bernardspence5294 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Team GB&NI had a fantastic athletic meet. They finished 3rd when ranked by total medals. They were unlucky to win more Golds but that is sport. More worrying than being unlucky is Australia who ended 4th and they have a home Olympics on the horizon. Jamaica won only 1 gold compared to 4 to 6 golds in each of the last 3 Olympics. That single gold came in the field!

  • @johnedwards230
    @johnedwards230 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In terms of performance we're doing better in a range of areas. In London we had 2 generational talents and Greg got lucky. We could and probably with better judgement won 3 golds in Paris and scored the largest medal total in a long time.
    It's a shame athletics is suffering, football consumes 90% of sports coverage the other sports are scrapping over 10%. Its not healthy

    • @2011hwalker
      @2011hwalker 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Football cannibalizes sports in the UK. The UK is now 'Premier League Island', its basically one of the final global industries that the UK exports to the world. Most of the rest of the economy is stagnating.

  • @felixbishton3955
    @felixbishton3955 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great research and well structured, fascinating - subscribed

  • @jackdawson4772
    @jackdawson4772 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Really opened my eyes to a lot of issues I had no idea about!

  • @justwhatever23
    @justwhatever23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, had no idea the organisation was in such difficulty

  • @Sparks6078
    @Sparks6078 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Unfortunately, it's turned into track with no field. Very limited TV coverage of field events. Especially throws. You are never going to capture the interests of young up and coming athletes if there never shown on TV or even taken to championships when they have qualified.

  • @samhillsmithify
    @samhillsmithify 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow. From someone that watches and consumes a lot of report videos this is the best I have seen in a while

  • @marra4887
    @marra4887 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very good outline analysis, Jordan - and well delivered. I think it's a travesty that in a worldwide sport - Noah Lyles was right saying that world champions of American football is a misnomer - they don't get the coverage they deserve. I remember reading about Keely Hodgkinson' s coach, Jennie Meadows when she competed herself having to scrat and save to pay fares to events.
    Athletics needs more publicity and people like Usain Bolt, Noah Lyles, Keely Hodgkinson ' Ingebritsen - Josh Kerr battles' Duplantis style exhilaration, Sydney Mclaughlin superstardom; Dina Asher- Smith and many others.
    All that government "the 2012 London Olympics going to have a long lasting effect on athletics in Britain" false promises, not carried through! From what you say, Jordan, shame on the BBC for not supporting athletics as it should be !

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe Im just a geek but I was jumping around my living room in anticipation of Kerr vs Ingebritsen (vs Hocker!!!!) last week. That race imo should have felt …bigger!
      The BBC don’t think they’re getting ROI on their spend it’s a sad situation.

  • @Cream147player
    @Cream147player 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9 medals for our athletes in Paris vs 6 medals in London. Yes, it's only 1 gold vs 4 in London, but still, I'd say 9 medals is a solid turnout for us in athletics. And some really memorable performances by KJT, Kerr and Hudson-Smith even if they were all just pipped to gold.
    Not saying there aren't problems with UK Athletics, I'm sure there are, but I think our performance is still in a relatively good place. Of course I'd like to see us improve, but I just think this idea of a "decline" isn't consistent with the facts.

  • @jonesyjones7626
    @jonesyjones7626 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very thought provoking. Fundamentally, sports bodies should not be private companies, there is a lack of transparency in such arrangements that goes against what they are there to do.

  • @mishimishi27
    @mishimishi27 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video so informative and well presented thank you for sharing 🙌🏾

  • @Ligerpride
    @Ligerpride 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Athletics should be the pinnacle of sporting icons worldwide. The reality is as athletics has stayed closer to an ethos of amateur participation than most other sports, it is difficult to sell a career in athletics to young people.
    Young people don't want to have to slog their guts out and push their bodies to the limit for a small chance of getting a payoff to live somewhat comfortably. The chances of making money or a career out of it is quite slim.
    Also there is a much more significantly sedentary culture among the young in the developed world.

  • @SenzuYT
    @SenzuYT 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm ngl I was under the impression that you're at a 100k subs. Trust me bro I know the struggle but its only a matter of time till you become super successful. Youve got a subscription from me💯

  • @jamiechaplin7754
    @jamiechaplin7754 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brilliant video. Excited to see what's next from this channel.

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you Jamie I have a lot more coming. Glad you enjoy

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well we all knew that funding would dry up after London hosted the Olympics in 2012, it's no surprise.

  • @fatbelly27
    @fatbelly27 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Unfortunately the BBCs poor Olympic deal is going to bury the sport further in the public's consiousness. This is a shame because in a lot of areas athletics has already got through issues that other sports struggle with

  • @Lulu-126
    @Lulu-126 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you! Brilliant report Jordan 👏🏾

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had no idea I was actuallyintereted in these issues.

  • @porthmeor1
    @porthmeor1 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is plenty of sponsorship for UK athletics but the vast majority goes directly to the athlete, not to UKA. There is zero funding for grass roots athletics in the UK

  • @YomsterFUT13
    @YomsterFUT13 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Insanely good and detailed video sir 🫡🤝🏾

  • @DavidRodriguez-wp7zi
    @DavidRodriguez-wp7zi 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great informative video, thank you

  • @SosiskaTheHorrible
    @SosiskaTheHorrible 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I felt the olympics coverage was pretty ropey. Two streams, sometimes showing the same event. I don’t follow athletics but for me the olympics starts when the track and field starts and it’s always covered extensively and is always engaging. Maybe because a French broadcaster was doing it and the BBC had limited access? I still feel it wasn’t great

  • @adriana7144
    @adriana7144 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is way more to it than you covered. As someone who has worked on the commercial side of other ‘olympic’ sports in the UK, there are an awful lot of unseen factors you’re working around to keep any level of cash coming in.

  • @mattpotter8725
    @mattpotter8725 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A huge amount of money, a lot from the National Lottery, was pumped into British sport in the years leading up to the 2012 London Olympics so it's hardly rocket science to see how UK Athletics was making money during this time. I'm shocked you can't see this. When not doing well due to underinvestment you lose sponsors and things start to snowball.

  • @user-cx4ll4rj1t
    @user-cx4ll4rj1t 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    That was well written and delivered......... will look forward to yr future work......... (you did that whole 10mins without saying 'corruption', that must have been a challenge)

    • @TheLongPlayUK
      @TheLongPlayUK  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There’s a LOT more in the safeguarding topic too. That’s a complete mess. Sad situauton

  • @nathanmcgowan5198
    @nathanmcgowan5198 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the big factor for UK athletics is the "why should I care" factor for casual sports fans. Once every 4 years people tune into the Olympics and Athletics is Front and Centre and it seams many people enjoy it. But they don't give you a reason to go and search out any more athletics. The Reason the Dimond League sits on Iplayer along with things like the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup is because the BBC clearly think the slot on BBC1 or 2 Could be better used by something else that can bring more eyeballs. So I think its UK Athletics job to give us a reason to tune in, a reason to watch and a reason to support and quite frankly they're failing. Many sports have disappeared entirely behind a pay wall so there could be slots open but UK athletics and the Dimond league don't give me and many other casuals a reason to tune in or care.

  • @willplumtree8061
    @willplumtree8061 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jordan, you deserve a job at UK Athletics
    for getting me interested in UK Athletics!!!!!

  • @marksmith334
    @marksmith334 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pre selection is a failed concept, hasn’t worked in cricket and definitely hasn’t in athletics. Allows serial failures and favourites to still get funding without results. Mccolgan be8ng a prime example.

  • @user-om2fg7yh6s
    @user-om2fg7yh6s 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video - it needs to be called out. There’s probably a link between the bad business and the lack of talent that can compete at the highest level. The media will act like we’re doing well but really and truly we won a few silvers/bronze and have no top tier athletes competing in the blue ribbon events. It’s appalling.

    • @Astro2024
      @Astro2024 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mathew Hudson-Smith is pretty top tier. As is KJT and Keely

    • @user-om2fg7yh6s
      @user-om2fg7yh6s 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Astro2024 KJT & Keely dont compete in blue ribbon events. We have no competitors in 100m, 200m, 110m Hurdles, women's 400m. The fact that we haven't had an Olympic champion in the 100m since Linford Christie is an absolute disgrace.

  • @JMundy168
    @JMundy168 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We all know the only logical answer. It's time they got a kit sponsor

  • @henrymilleruk100
    @henrymilleruk100 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please please please cover the state of rugby. There is so much to cover purely from the UK at the top tier and second tier level and even compare to other systems like France. Or comparisons to other smaller sports like rugby. It feels dire but would be so keen to hear your insight

  • @nox5555
    @nox5555 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Stadium issue isnt something UK specific. the only country that has modern venues that can be used for athletics without losing money all year long are in germany.
    Berlin and Schalke can be turned into any kind of stadium without alot of cost.
    Berlin is historic, but i dont get why not more clubs have a stadium like Schalke. the green is so much better there and their strange event like wintersport and car football are keeping cash flow between games.

  • @inappropriatejohnson
    @inappropriatejohnson 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can't lie......it was sweet seeing both Kerr and Ingebrigtsen get beat in that 1500m.

  • @fender1000100
    @fender1000100 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The UK doesnt look after its athletic talent. Its disgusting.

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lots of other sports get by with very little money. People need to pay for their own hobbies/sports or be good enough to become professional if they can earn (not just be handed) enough money.

  • @johnbarton9986
    @johnbarton9986 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Had to laugh when I read one of the reviews saying Athletics was a minor sport.Yeh right.Probably from a football fan.Funny how even the narrator has a football top in the background.
    The Olympics is the world's biggest sporting event.PERIOD.Not the world cup.
    The Blue ribbon event of the Olympics IE the most important is ATHLETICS.Football is only really popular in Europe & South America.Most countries like Canada,America,Russia,China,Australia,India etc have no interest in football whatsoever.
    Athletics has always been one of the oldest sports and the biggest.

    • @encorefootball
      @encorefootball 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The World Cup and football gets massive viewing figures from India and its neighbours. Just because their prowess in the sport is dismal, it doesn't mean it's not popular. The Olympics awards 3,000 medals, but the viewing figures are erratic. The World Cup is far more linear, with only one team winning the big prize in a cup final

  • @davidwilliams2687
    @davidwilliams2687 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellently reported and is full of great content, because I have learned things that I was not aware of, please keep up informed, thanks for the updates.

  • @distantfuture
    @distantfuture 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, really glad your channel was promoted to my feed. Keep up the good work & sorry about Sancho 🤣

  • @colofsco1
    @colofsco1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We did very well in the last Olympics and there has been no coverage about the status of UK athletics. This is news to me.

  • @craigbrown04
    @craigbrown04 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yet another fantastic and insightful video, bravo.
    After the Olympics and the interest it brings, got to hope that a sponsor stepa forward to help grow T&F. It needs more provision and promotion in achoolla rather than default football for boys and netball for girls.

  • @lorrainewilson5234
    @lorrainewilson5234 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very insightful and informative information. Never knew these awesome athletes aren't rewarded. Probably they should align themselves with other countries placing pressure on the country

  • @helpmark
    @helpmark 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Problem with athletics, lets be honest, hardly anyone gives a fly about the field events, they are just a tedious add on in the main (broadcasters dont even bother televising them properly lol). And with track - majority of people into running are solely interested in running - they don't like watching it.

  • @dipankardhar1272
    @dipankardhar1272 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    By looking at your thumbnail i thought those two athletes are bankrupt despite winning Silver in Paris Olympics.
    Thank God it was a clickbait