‘Bellingham is NOT doing it for England’ How does Gareth Southgate fix their issues? | ESPN FC

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  • Gab Marcotti is joined by Mark Ogden as they discuss England’s performances thus far at Euro 2024 and how Gareth Southgate may have to make some big decisions.
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  • @Chris-si4ox
    @Chris-si4ox 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    this is literally 2006 all over again. Players playing out of position, manager terrified of the press, fear based play

  • @LeeRenthlei
    @LeeRenthlei 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Bellingham is definitely overrated, that doesn't mean he's a bad player. Remember, you can be a great player and still be overrated.
    What I'm trying to say is that he's being rated beyond his footballing ability.

    • @mannyyard9882
      @mannyyard9882 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You must not of heard about Phil Foden 😁😁😁😁😁. If overrated was a person, it would be him.

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ppl tend to think overrated means _not good_

  • @Markus-uc5jq
    @Markus-uc5jq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Didn't Jude shoot half of the English goals? 😉

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Say it louder so they can hear you in the back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MultiBurger1
    @MultiBurger1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Jude is very tired. Rest him

    • @egoi6421
      @egoi6421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then Bellingham has been tired for several months. The way he just walk around on the field is a disgrace. He does it playing for RM too. I dont know what has happen to him after he joined RM? He dont know how to run anymore or he lacks work etic. In Germany they would never allow this.

    • @user-lr7xw1zk5i
      @user-lr7xw1zk5i 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      nah he's just completely overrated and completely sht and people are just now seeing it now

  • @mannyyard9882
    @mannyyard9882 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is hilarious 😁😁😁. They said Foden is England's best player, so now Bellingham is not doing it for England 😁😁😁😁. What happened to the PL player of the year? The player who was going to carry England to the Euros title 😁😁😁😁.

  • @finbarrcorcoran9342
    @finbarrcorcoran9342 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    From ballon d'Or winner to"he should be dropped'". Good ol football pundits.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's just Bellingham hate for no reason I don't get it

    • @haitiancreolewithluciano
      @haitiancreolewithluciano วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Model_Roe Let me explain it to you, then! He's TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@haitiancreolewithluciano tell me you don't watch football without saying you dont watch football

    • @wengelder9256
      @wengelder9256 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well the performances went decrescendo since the beginning of the year . In Madrids last few UCL games , Bellingham was just a passenger . Hence the changing opinions .

  • @dwightwebb9566
    @dwightwebb9566 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    drop the only player that got you 3 points wow you people or a joke

  • @paulachin9130
    @paulachin9130 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I've been saying it all along about Bellingham so overrated especially here for England. A good manager has to know what players suit a certain style of play no matter how good one is don't always fit a certain style that's why they are managers.

    • @josephocallaghan3000
      @josephocallaghan3000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he should be starting from the bench - looks worn out; keep his feet on the ground, should be an understudy to Foden. M Owen was given too many games, when young, it shortened his career; burn out/injury prone

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For you to say that suggests you know nothing about football

    • @Bolu-mg2ki
      @Bolu-mg2ki 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Useless foden?​@@josephocallaghan3000

    • @y4895s
      @y4895s วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine saying overrated after 3 matches , one of which he was man of match. Everyone needs to chill out a bit 😂 he’s a 20 year old that just won la liga and the champions league in his first season and was one of the key players for Real Madrid, the biggest club in the world. How is he overrated lol

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@josephocallaghan3000"too many games when he was young" So how many is the right number of games then?! You can get injured at any point, at any time even in training.

  • @elingrome5853
    @elingrome5853 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So basically the problem is Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Trent etc... but not Southgate... :D

  • @Jay-bs4qw
    @Jay-bs4qw 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Southgate is terrified of attacking football the same way Gab is terrified by a salad

    • @drdassler
      @drdassler 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I always imagine there's a pizza slice shop missing its manager. 😄

    • @rodluka1419
      @rodluka1419 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's cold, man 😂

  • @dregen8662
    @dregen8662 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The problem is Bellingham?! 😅

  • @Hp-ze8cc
    @Hp-ze8cc 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ogden always changes his mind. Retrospective is easy

  • @josephocallaghan3000
    @josephocallaghan3000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    MarkOgden could be a stand-in Reform candidate, ie for Laurence Fox

  • @Batemann1980
    @Batemann1980 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you watch the touch maps Bellingham is occupying exactly the same space as Kane not foden

  • @ps5andstuffhere
    @ps5andstuffhere 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Real Madrid turned him into a striker

  • @vimo1133
    @vimo1133 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's right. Jude and foden cannot be played together. And Foden is good when playing behind #9. Left wing should be played by a left wing player like Gordon. And I believe Palmer will create more chances than Saka.

  • @evanclp514
    @evanclp514 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    stick with the 4-2-3-1. but move Trippier to right-back and Walker to left-back. that way at least Trippier can push forward and get in good crosses and Walker can stay back and form a back 3 when England have possession. move Bellingham into the midfield 2 next to Rice and use him for more control and ball progression. move Foden into the middle, behind Kane. start Gordon on the left. if they're still struggling to control the game and create chances, sub Saka out for Palmer.

    • @tobiaslaycock7758
      @tobiaslaycock7758 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It depends more on what strong foot they have to give them 2x more options going forward playing on the outside foot on each side

  • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
    @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've seen him play many times, he is not a no.10...he is a no.8

  • @uchenna419
    @uchenna419 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes he should drop him! I let's go back to the days of performance equals starting

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No

  • @martes-2
    @martes-2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Southgate 😴 💤 sleep walking
    😮

  • @palatialslumlord4938
    @palatialslumlord4938 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gabs faces man lol

  • @jamesjukebox2386
    @jamesjukebox2386 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He should of in the last game, bad management all round.

  • @12Hydrocarbon
    @12Hydrocarbon วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bellingham has weird attitude. The hype got into his head. He appears very disrespectful to his teammates and unhappy/tired. Gareth should be ruthless with him, and instruct him to follow orders or drop him. He was the worst player in the field for two games. Gareth should play Foden in the #10, Mainoo and Rice in midfield. Saka/Plamer on the right and Gordon on the left. England will dominate and score goals with this lineup. The problem is Bellingham who’s trying too hard and prioritizing selfish plays than team.

  • @gadyongraham22
    @gadyongraham22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bellingham should drop Southgate. This coach is clueless.

  • @devonpack906
    @devonpack906 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He’s not playing well I would try different things to get some chemistry. England as a whole isn’t playing well as a whole imo. They need to figure out how to get a spark somehow like Philips cannot be the reason they are struggling

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They're all playing out of position and Southgate if he was smart wouldn't play the most important players like Jude Kane in less important matches that's really the issue

  • @SkatePvP10
    @SkatePvP10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    3-5-2

    • @n.s.5278
      @n.s.5278 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      3-3-3-1

    • @SkatePvP10
      @SkatePvP10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@n.s.5278 nice

    • @n.s.5278
      @n.s.5278 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SkatePvP10
      Kane
      Gorden. Maino. Palmer
      Rice. Bellingham. Trent
      Guehi. Stones. Walker
      Pickford

    • @SkatePvP10
      @SkatePvP10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@n.s.5278 pretty good

  • @Change_II
    @Change_II 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Southgate should play 3-4-1-2 it's the best system for this squad.
    Bellingham. Kane.
    Foden.
    Saka. Rice. Mainoo. Trent.
    Guehi. Stones. Walker.
    Pickford.

    • @n.s.5278
      @n.s.5278 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      3-3-3-1

    • @Change_II
      @Change_II 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@n.s.5278 who's starting?

    • @n.s.5278
      @n.s.5278 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Change_II
      kane
      Gorden. Maino. Palmer
      Rice. Bellingham. Trent
      Guehi. Stones. Walker
      Pickford

    • @Change_II
      @Change_II วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@n.s.5278 my team would beat yours.

  • @joso7228
    @joso7228 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is Bellingham's wife pregnant with her 3rd child? No.Well you'd better stick him in the team then.

  • @Triple_X_X
    @Triple_X_X 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bellingham is the definition of average in the new dictionary King Charles III is bringing

    • @Nofacenocasemiro
      @Nofacenocasemiro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      40 g/a in debut season for real madrid winning UCL and league is 'AVERAGE'? ok then

    • @mannyyard9882
      @mannyyard9882 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If he is average then what would you consider foden? trash? 🤔

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@NofacenocasemiroThen let's see how many of those seasons he will have since it's not a fluke

  • @ericgriffin6698
    @ericgriffin6698 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, 1 goal so far is a joke!!

    • @mannyyard9882
      @mannyyard9882 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      0 goals for foden is even worst. The PL player of the year is horrible.

  • @y4895s
    @y4895s วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine saying a 20 year old is overrated after 3 matches, one of which he was man of the match. People are so quick to sway these days. He is 20 years old!! 😂 And he just won la liga and the champions league in his first season and was one of the key players for Real Madrid, the biggest club in the world. If you think he’s “overrated” that’s ridiculous, you have seen maybe 5% of his career so far

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can still rate a player but think he is overrated. It's completely logical to have both opinions

    • @y4895s
      @y4895s วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-bi4bb6cd9s okay but a 20 year old player can not be overrated when he just won La Liga and the Champions league in his first season with Real Madrid as a key player that helped them win both. Logically there is no sense in that. He isn’t anywhere near his prime so it’s way too early to make claims he is overrated

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@y4895s It's not about what you win at any specific age. It''s abt ability. You can't tell someone what level to rate someone esp. if it differs from yours. That does not mean some ppl do not think he is good, it's just that some ppl think that he is not as good as what the media or others claim him to be. It's that simple

    • @y4895s
      @y4895s วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bi4bb6cd9s yeah but my point is that people saying he’s overrated is an objective statement. If it’s an opinion I can understand. But to make a bold statement that he IS underrated doesn’t make sense because his potential at this point is infinite given what he’s achieving at his age. He could be 100 times better in 5 years, many incredible players at his age were playing low level football, so there’s no reason to say he is overrated because of 3 matches in the Euro when it’s clear his entire team is struggling

    • @y4895s
      @y4895s วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bi4bb6cd9s it would be like me saying Iniesta is overrated because he had 3 bad matches at the age of 20. But then he grew up to become Iniesta lol

  • @lmdos4382
    @lmdos4382 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He should be benched

  • @Change_II
    @Change_II 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oden proving he knows nothing about football. Bellingham can play the left half-space and Foden the right half-space in the opposition final 3rd.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He obviously dislikes Jude for whatever reason lol because I agree with you for him to say that makes absolutely no sense not to mention Jude is one of England's most important players he's not the problem

  • @Model_Roe
    @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Jude hate is insane he's literally England's most important player like you cannot be serious the issue is not with Jude it's the whole team playing out of position and Southgates horrendous coaching

  • @diddyxl
    @diddyxl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is their worst punditry from these two yet. If I'm to understand correctly, Jude is not doing well. No one on the team is doing well because... I'm sure someone in the replies can fill this in.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh I'm confused how is this Jude's fault? He's literally England's most important player if not Jude then Phil Foden who's worse

    • @Karma2Babylon
      @Karma2Babylon 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Look up real analysis of Jude’s performance. He runs and works for the team more than anyone else. He’s showing his frustration too openly which opponents will thrive on but his work rate cannot be faulted.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Karma2Babylon Jude and Fede Valverde are the hardest working footballers right now those two never stop moving they're like the energiser bunny

  • @dacostadacosta9362
    @dacostadacosta9362 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I Sometimes wonder how people are so excited to discuss England when it comes to football,There is no need because they are overhyped they performed whenever they are with foreign players and Coaches…With all these lengthened talks you guy’s who don’t tell them truth about their performance’s…One World Cup a country which claims football as their property…X Strange

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean say what you want but I been saying I do see England getting through to the finals but just barely

  • @seanmcculloch9385
    @seanmcculloch9385 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When you’ve not got proper wingers or proper centre forward what do u expect from him

    • @user-bi4bb6cd9s
      @user-bi4bb6cd9s วันที่ผ่านมา

      So suddenly Arsenal should look for a "proper" winger and Bayern should look for a "proper" center forward?!

    • @seanmcculloch9385
      @seanmcculloch9385 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kane plays like a 10 and I wasn’t digging out saka just the left side

  • @majestyofrock2702
    @majestyofrock2702 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These England players are clearly out of gas following their long club season.