The NEW Tamron 70-180mm 2.8 vs Sony 70-200 2.8 GM| How good is the Tamron really?
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*UPDATE- I’ve had multiple people including very established photographers reach out to me and say they have the same issue with their Sony 70-200 2.8| I want to make something very clear- I’ve owned the Sony 70-200 GM for 2 years and have used it for portraits, weddings and commercial jobs. It’s worked great for me but for some weird reason, mine has been back focusing on occasion. This doesn’t mean they all do it but mine is and it has never been dropped. Also, this doesn’t mean that their isn’t a bad batch of Tamron lenses out there either. I already see comments of GM owners getting defensive so this is for you
Don't you know you're not allowed to give rightful criticism on the Internet and give your personal experience?
@@RealRaynedance lol Because if you do, you're immediately labeled a "hater." So obviously, Manny's a hater of the 70-200 GM! lol
Manny Ortiz Do you think firmware updates have been affecting performance of certain lenses negatively? I feel like I’ve experienced the same with certain lenses. A certain lens has worked perfect for a longtime and out of nowhere it back focuses. Idk just a thought.
@@omaralexander7406 Uh-oh, I had better check mine. Just had an update done at an in-store event with a Sony rep (hadn't even realized there was a new one. Thought I was already up to date). Haven't used my 70-200 yet.
I have a Sony 70-200 f2.8 and I have back focusing issues all the time photographing basketball. There's also an issue where I can only zoom out to 195mm... Not 200. I contacted Sony and they are willing to fix it but not during the lockdown.
I literally just wait until Manny Ortiz, Jerod Polin, and Gerald Undone make a review and then i can easily make or break my purchase.
Facts
Also Dustin Abbott 😊
Yes!
Don’t forget about Christopher Frost...
Adam D i used to watch him often but he only reviewed canon and Sony he needs to buy some other cameras to do a real test. I do like his reviews but he’s a bit biased.
And this is exactly why you left the Sony Ambassador Program. Respect to you Manny 👊🏽
Ah-h-h GREAT POINT Manny Sandhu, I had completely overlooked that!!
Waiting for the Tamron 175-575mm now
Same lol
Why not the 0-infinity f/0 macro pancake?
"Sony has the advantage in affordable lens selection for Full Frame"
Boy who thought anyone would EVER say that? We've come a long way in a few years
And affordable bodies, there's some variation of the A7 available at almost every price point from like $500 used to $5000
it was just a matter of time..
It was sort of common knowledge that both Tamron and Sigma would jump on the Sony Alpha wagon as best as they could.
Having said this..hehe.. i'm still with you on this... hehe Rewind the clock a couple of years and one would be dissing Sony for this exact reason. :P
@Gap some, some are just amazing for price. Of course budget depends from person to person. But some of their lenses are great value for money.
@Gap No it doesn't. Go to Brian Smith's website and check out the full list of NATIVE mount lenses. 185 at last count (inc. Cine) and covering every budget. How many do you need ?
One other big advantage of the Tamron: It's black! Much less conspicuous. Speaking personally - I will never buy a white 'hey look at me and my big white lens'.
Underrated comment! When I was shooting canon I wound up buying a tamron 70-200 over the canon equivalent for this very reason!!
But it looks like a gun.
Exactly. Never gonna work as a parent with those ridiculous white lenses.
Little bit ridiculous to say the least. There isn't much options for big zooms, therefore you buy what you can. Personally I'm considering to buy Sony 70-200 F4 not because it's white and I want to show off but because it's a very good native lense.
@@TheJurciks If it's good for you - that's great! I said "speaking personally" because I was expressing my personal choice - and I didn't mean to imply that anyone that chooses it wants to show off, more that, if I'm carrying expensive gear in an unfamiliar neighbourhood, I prefer to be as inconspicuous as possible.
Frankly I'm stunned; it looks like Tamron learned some lessons from their 28-75 ( which is pretty nice but the Sigma's FE 24-70, just WOW), and has stepped up a level... I now want to rent this and try it - Great Job as Always Manny!!
The great thing about Tamron trinity is that all 3 lenses have the same 67 mm thread size!
big facts! I have the 28-75 and 17-28. About to buy this 70-180 for my 2nd camera for wedding lol
Tamron completed the "trinity" now. For so much less money. Amazing.
It would've made switching to Sony the easiest decision if these came out three years ago!
If I mainly shot wedding and events, I'd buy 17-28/2.8 & 70-180/2.8 in heart beat, but I shoot real estate, so 28-75/2.8 is enough f/2.8 for me!
Tamron 70-180 mm will definitely be my next purchase! Thanks for this
Like many other subscribers, I also hope both Manny you and Jared going well. From S.Korea
Looks way good. It's crazy what Tamron is putting out for the price
Thank you for giving us good Content during this time Manny !
We appreciate you!
It could be that you're getting back focus on the gm 70-200mm because the focus ring is active even in af modes, some people have thought they had a focus problem when in fact they were accidentally moving the linear focus ring while shooting
I've been waiting for this review! Wasn't going to buy it until you put the stamp of approval on it...Thanks!
i learned that in a sales training some years ago. if you buy something new, you are only happy with your purchase if someone approves you! and that sounds right :D
Tamron f/2.8 trinity only costs $2900, slightly more than RF 70-200L and less than the price of RF 28-70 f/2.
tbh though, IMAGINE if they did a 28-70 f2, that ekstra stop on a zoom like that.
lets wait for the Tamron 70-130 F2.0 www.photografix-magazin.de/tamron-70-130mm-f-2-0-200-400mm-f-4-0/
Most underrated comment of them all. Great insight.
The back focusing issue is real. I was shooting an event and had this problem. Making me change to my 24-70mm which wasn’t ideal. I’m planing to make a video this week perhaps as I thought I was the only one with this issue. Keep it up Manny.
This review seals it for me. Im going for the tamron 70-180.
Production transitions and sound effects on point!!
Nonrelated to these lens, when I saw the 20mm 1.8 got left in the rain and still worked “good as new” I felt 1000% better about spending $900 on mine, lmao. Love this video, and my Tammy 70-180!
Never click so fast in my life.😂
right?
IKR! 😂
Lol yes me either
Got both the 17-28 and 28-75 and love them. Been craving a 70-200 forever and was waiting on this lens forever. So I knew your video was coming soon! Currently waiting on mine to ship! 👌🏾
I like that the color is black. White on the big lenses for sporting events is fine, but I dislike it on my 70-200 GM because of the extra attention it seems to generate when I'm shooting news and events. Coming from all-black Nikon 80-200s and 70-200s, I'm very surprised at the comments with the Sony. "That's a big camera!" and "How far away can that take pictures?" and my favorite "What TV station are you with?" Sorry, but I don't want to be so conspicuous.
Nice review Manny, Sony has been nice enough to share with Tamron some of their proprietary info instead of having Tammy reverse engineer it, add newer technology since the sony 70-200 2.8; plus cutting off 20 mm allowed for a smaller form factor. This will be a good to great lens for when you don't want to heave a howitzer around yet have a form and weight factor similar to a 70-200 f/4 . The black color is more discreet. Great 'in action' comparitives on your part , lets see how they match up to what is found on the "bench" tests. My copy is already on order.
One comment about the aperture blades you mentioned, the out-of-focus renderings shouldn't have anything to do with the number of blades while shooting at wide-open, simply because they aren't 'seen' (they're fully open ya know).
Good video Manny and the focus issue is substantial as if the focus is off, I usually toss the timage. I do however think the GM looked sharper and with a cleaner bokeh for your images. Also, the Tamron was noticeably warmer just from picking out images side by side. That made telling the images apart kind of obvious to me. Also, the OSS with these lengths is important and so are the features. I'm surprised you don't touch on that more. There is a reason other brands were charging a lot more for IS/OSS. Think of the Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8 with and without IS. There was a $1K difference for a very long time. I have the other two Tamrons for zooms but for now, I'll keep the GM for this range. Maybe if I can try one, I'd change my mind as that's a lot of money but that remains to be seen for myself.
Am i correct that you must have a Sony lens paired with an a7 body, to get the IBIS + OSS 5-axis stabilization? So if pairing with this Tamron..... you are ONLY getting IBIS, that's it. Correct?
I own the Sony 70-200 f/2.8 as well as Tamron’s other 2 Sony lenses. Very impressed with the quality and performance of Tamron’s offerings. I like that the Sony lens has IS in the lens itself which helps a ton because the Sony lens is just so heavy! I prefer having IS in the lens in addition to inside the body.
I was once an advocate of APSC only because of weight and size (traveler). Thanks to Tamron and Samyang's new AF lenses (which are actually smaller than my apsc lenses) i have now switched to full frame. These companies know what they're doing!
The beginning of this video is where I start my comment off with "No disrespect but" right before I say something I shouldn't have said lol but I came here to see how the 70 - 180mm stack up to the 70 - 200mm
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I like your work on TH-cam and IG keep on doing your thing you’re killing it.
im canon user and tempting to switch to sony just because of tamron 17-28, there is literally no other system has super wide f2.8 lens that as good as 17-28, super sharp and very affordable
It’s become my work horse
Your reviews are so clear and real. Think I will go buy this one today !! Cheers man
Now that they have the trinity, they can add another lens, 200-490mm for example, for a quaternity / tetrad :)
Well Manny, first you caused me to switch from Canon to Sony and now you just saved me a bunch of money on my next lens purchase. Thanks and please keep up the great work!
the much needed review...
for me Sony 70-200 f2.8 is the best..
thnq so much manny u'r the best...
also plz review the tamron 1728 f2.8 vs sony 20mm f1.8 ...
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How about choosing Sony 70-200 f4 over both of these? What do you think?
At 3:40 - that switch is a Zoom Lock not a focus lock and It does not have a focus ring on the mount, perhaps that's why you put "weather sealing gasket".
what a sensational video! thanks for putting two very good lenses side by side, I took a lot of doubts. Thanks and keep up your videos, they are amazing! for more videos like this! From Brazil
Pretty sure everyone in here is glad your off that ambassador program. 🙌🏼👏🏼 I cant wait for you to get the R5 and R6 to work. Announcement on Monday!
Very good review Manny, I've been thinking of getting the 70-200 G master, now I think I'll settle for the Tamron and add a bit to the rest and get the Sony 24mm f1.4 G
Awesome review Manny. Gotta say I have been wanting a 70-200 for years now but this has completely changed the game. For that price, I expect the Tamron to sell like hot cakes!
You didn’t answer the big question. Will you be selling your g master, and replacing it with the tamron?
true
Since he already owned the gmaster I doubt he will sell them to switch. Also pretty sure he be advising anyone starting out and on a Budget to consider the third party lens.
Really nice comparison. I am more into long zoom lenses and hope that Tamron will do a version of their APS-C 16-300 mm for FF with great sharpness on both ends.
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came for the lens stayed for the wife
This is the lens I will buy as soon as this pandemic thing finishes ! Excellent video.Indeed Tamron has been doing such a fantastic job. I bought the 28-75 and I love this lens.
For $2600 I got the Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8 G2 and 70-200mm f/2.8. G2. For Nikon. I'm very appreciative tamron exists, brings very high quality products to the market and performs so well.
Impressed!So excited with your video and tips👌
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but last time I checked, back (and front) focusing is not a thing for mirrorless systems? The sensor handles focusing directly, so if it thinks it's sharp then it should be sharp. So maybe something else went wrong and not the GM? No hate speech here, just curious
That's my understanding as well.
Can you compare canon rf lens to 3rd party lenses
In my experience, the 70-200 gm has performed pretty much perfectly for me in portraits and sports.
It's a fantasic lens if you want to spend more than double the tamron.
Like he said, it's not every cops of the lens that has issues, it's like the Nikon 200-500. I tried three lenses before getting a good copy but a friend of mine could never find one that performed as it should.
already pre ordered but nice to see a straight comparison between the two
I have the 70-200 f4 and have been thinking of trading up to the GM. This is a game changer as I could get the Tamron and keep my f4. Thanks for the great review
Dennis Blair why would you want both?
My Tamron 25 - 75 does the back focus thing that you mentioned about the 70 200 GM. I just feel that My 70 200 GM is a good copy so far but will see the things you pointed , Cheers.
Still liking the 70-200GM?
great results, have not been motivated to invest in glass for a while till now
My question as an APSC shooter is, Tamron 70-180 F2.8 or Sony 70-350 F4.5-6.3? Faster is always better sure, but if you're swapping into a telephoto, shouldn't it have some significant reach? I'm sure there are use cases where either lens make a lot of sense.
I was so excited for this lens. But having no Image stabilization, being a video guy. It can be lot more pain 😣 I know IBIS is there, but you know it doesn’t work that well in video at high focal lengths. I wish it could have atleast one stop of IS
I'm still waiting for anybody to test how well it balances on Weebill S, considering it's good enough for Sony GM 24-70 and the new Tamron is even lighter than that.
I have the GM and I don’t think I’ll be tempted to sell it for the Tamron as I currently own the Tamron 28-75 and want to get rid of it to get the GM. I thought I liked the Tamron but after a while with it the busy bokeh just starts to become an eyesore for me personally.
If you have a 70-200 that works good, you have nothing to worry about
I ran into similar circumstances with the 28-75. The more I shot with it the less I liked it. People tend to overlook (or not look at all) its short comings due to the price tag. It can also have a hard time grabbing focus, especially in lower light. I upgraded to the Sigma 24-70 and the focus speed was so much faster (both day and night) than the Tamron. I was surprised in this video that he said the focus speed was the same as you can clearly see the Tamron takes longer to lock on. Dont get me wrong tho, the Tamron provides a great budget option for those not looking to break the bank.
Got to chime in as well, had the Tamron 28-75 and sold it ending up with a 24-70GM down the road and its a huge difference IMO. Or go for the new Sigma 24-70, I would have considered it if I didn't get a great used deal on the GM. It's a big diff in my book, less distortion, better color, low light focus, better bokeh and rendering IMO. Huge plus for video is a linear focus motor too and just general handling.
Sigma 24-70 2.8
Love your pragmatism. While other's are hell bent on only evaluating the performance, you also factor in the cost. Short and precise. A nice review.
Damn bro, you got lucky with leaving that lens outside & nothing happened to it 👀 lol. Nice comparison! People better stop sleeping on Tamron🔥
I think Sony should drop their prices, In this competition with third party lenses If they wanna sell their native glas, not everyone owns a bank 😀💰
Sony are a big share holder in Tamron, plus cheaper lenses that perform well = more Sony Camera Body sales.
@@adidasaddict not really big only like less than 30%. So they will still profit more if people directly buy sony lens. Also sony is known to sell Tamron lens under sony brand looking at e mount 18-200
They can't. Tied with zeiss and fucked up really bad. Otherwise we'd get apsc lens, 16-70 and 24mm, way cheaper than the almost $1k each. 18-135 and 18-105 half price with more usable image on tele end. 35mm 1.8 $300ish, 50mm 200ish, put zeiss on their 24mm boom almost a grand. This is also the reason why their 16-55G is $1400, if they sell it same price as 16-70, zeiss will be pissed.
Same scenario with FF.
Nope keep priced high. Sony already has a bad reputation of coming out with new product to early.
My 70-200 GM autofocus motors went out on mine...not looking forward seeing that bill if the repair company ever get back to me about their website being down. This might be a solid alternative.
I love the real life test of leaving outside by accident.
I believe the GM problem is only with early models (... so careful if purchased used...), and lies with OSS sometimes swinging the OSS element so far to one side (and getting stuck there) that the light doesn't pass through an optimal portion of the glass, and thereby smeared the shots. But this phenomenon only occurred on my original GM early model lens with image stabilization turned ON. Turn OFF image stabilization, and it shot super sharp. That original lens was ordered before the lens was even released, and my dealer told me I had the first copy in town. Problem arose after about six months. My replacement purchase lens has not suffered the same problem after 18 months of pro shoot environments. The replacement GM was so sharp that I didn't bother with the GM135/1.8. It worked flawlessly, just like my experience with the GM rental and the demo GM that I've done extensive testing on.
I’ve been waiting for this review! Thank you.
So, would you say this lens is a good choice for a versatile portrait/event lens? Strongly considering this lens over a prime portrait lens, like the 85mm (full disclosure, I am just a hobbyist, breaking in to portraits). Your reviews are awesome - thank you Manny!
Great lens for the price. I got it Manny my friend! Much thanks for the hands on review. Please take care and stay safe.
Do you know how the Tamron 70-180mm does with a 2x teleconverter?
Hey Manny, great vid as usual. Quick question for you: any spherical aberration on the Tamron when shooting bright whites in high contrast conditions?
Great review - I highly enjoyed it. Last fall, I was considering the Sony 70-200 but in the end bought the 100-400 GM which I am very happy with. Now I'm having my eyes on the Tamron. Great value for money and pretty lightweight...
100-400 is a great lens .
That 70-180 is a beast! Faster too, sharpness and even how the colours are more vibrant at that.
I'm wating the new version 70-200 GM mkII, some for the 24-70 GM mkII.
If I have a Sony system Manny, I would definitely pick up the Tamron.
FINALLY. Although I have the 70-180 tamron on preorder as of this morning lol
A brief comment about the backfocus issues.
Sony has amazing AF based on phase-detection. However, phase-detection is, by nature, not great for eye-AF. The reason for it is that phase-detection will guess the distance to focus from a given focus point and move the motor there. This has two sources of error: first that the motor will move exactly the right amount and second that the focus point is actually on the iris and not eyelashes, cheek or brow. Except with DP from Canon, that second part may be typically an issue. In the past, many lenses got away with the problem by being slightly back-focusing by default, the focus point was on the brow or cheek and the eye was in focus. Maybe Tamron is doing some of this and the GM is too "perfect" and does not... But you say it backfocuses (focus further away) so maybe that is not, or it is overdone.
Sony AF used to do contrast-AF for the last adjustment and that should work better, but it is slower and "pulses", so maybe lately they took that out? I wonder.
AF on the eye with thin focus depth is just very hard!
Shot some with the Tamron 70-180 in a local shop with my a7iii. The image info on Mac Photos showed this as a Sony lens...
I like what Tamron is doing, but I think I'm going to wait for the Sigma 70-200 that's supposed to be announced this year. Sigma is blowing everyone out of the water right now with 35 1.2, 14-24, and 24-70, I don't see how their 70-200 won't be phenomenal. Secondly, I shoot events mainly and the extra 20mm is a must for me. Great video bro!
How is the waiting game going?
@@whygamewhyGetting so close now lol
When I first saw that you left that lens out in the rain I could not fathom how you could do that. Now I do. I would have had a heart attack when I realised though!
Hey Manny the bag thing wasn't fair - you've got the wrong bag! Get the Tenba Axis 32L - can pull camera and long lens out of the top and a smaller camera and lens out of the side AT THE SAME TIME
maybe you had the eye detect set on left eye? It seems to get her left eye in focus every time... But yeah I am totally shook by how good the Tamron was. I borrowed my friends 28 - 70 Tamron and the AF was trash.
Hi Manny,
Could you please do a shootout of the Tamron v Sigma (via MC11) v Sony lenses?
I love your work and your opinion.
Thanks!
That Tamron is looking nice. Looks like they did the right amount of compromise. Nice video!
$1200 is priced to compete with sigma sports ef + mc-11 (used market). I think i stil want that lens IS which is crucial for video
Hi Manny, a bit off subject but while we are locked down could you and Dianne make a video comparing the accuracy and speed of the Eye AF between the A6400 or A6600 and a full frame body, perhaps the A7111.
I would be very interested how they compare and could you comment on whether a fast prime lens increases the speed and accuracy of the Eye AF over a slower prime or quality zoom.
Also, when you get your hands on a Fuji XT4, a similar test against the Sony bodies including Real Time tracking
Finally a comparison I'm looking forward to it coming on sale in Denmark
would love to see the review for sigma 27-70 2.8
Looks like a good lens. I just don't like the extend-a-barrel type zooms. I think because I associate them with cheap kit lenses. Also, no matter how weather sealed it is dust and debris will still eventually get in the lens. But hey, it's less than half the price of the Sony so it will definitely be worth it for a lot of people.
adamaj remember that there are Canon L series lenses that extend, and have no problem is this regard, namely the 16-35 L, as well as the 24-105 F4L and the 70-300 L, of which I have both.
@@patrickparisienne1917 Hello Patrick. I'm glad you have no problems with your lenses. But, I have heard and read of people getting dust and debris in the 24-105 and 16-35 for sure.
Thanks Manny for that review! My Sony 70-200 2.8 has the same issue that you were talking about. Am gonna sell it and go for the tamron...
I love canon and can’t get away from it. I would only switch to Sony for eye af. It’s immaculate.
🙄🙄🙄🙄
You know that Canon has eye af, too?
weizenobst müsli it does and its good, but in terms of how snappy and accurate, Sony’s eye AF is much better. Also eye AF on canon is only on the new bodies which this dude might not own
weizenobst müsli I said I use canon, so I know it does. It’s not close to Sonys.
@@RiceCubeTech , have you ever used a Oly camera? How much snappier do you want eye af? This whole influencer made discussion about the quality of eye af is completely over the top. In real world use I hit the eye every time.
AF in the 3rd series was ruined a couple of firmware updates in the past. Now it is hunting from time to time even with native glass. Try A9, A9II, A7r4 ;). The hunting I am talking about is a micro hunting - enough to miss focus just a little.
This just shows me that Sony needs to start producing more affordable good quality lenses and for the professionals low appature lenses.
We need more full frame budget lenses like a good 24-70 f4(or lower) that is not a Zeiss and as mushy as the kit lens from the A7I times (28-70 Mark II?), a few 'affordable' high range lenses like Nikon has them (200-400 5.6 / 200-500 5.6) and pro versions of those.
In comparison with Canon and Leica, Sony needs more pro grade lenses. Even Fuji has it's 56 1.2 which is absolutely amazing. We need a Sony 85 1.2, 24-70 f2, 135 1.8 / 135 2, etc.
I don't necessarily need them from Sony since they own a bit from others like Tamron anyway, but I want the option without going to use a adapter for Canon just because I want that creamy 85 1.2L or a Tilt-Shift with good quality. Canons R glass is stealing the show and if they want to prevail when if the R5 should be actually good, then Sony does not only need a good camera with amazing new features (smart camera and computational photography assistance when?) but also, and especially, a even better lens line up. Canon has by far not everything for R det, but they're quick, of phenomenal quality and most important things like the holy trinity, basic primes and makro to tele are all there already and just improving in every aspect from size to price.
Absolutely agreed.
I have the Tamron 28-75 2.8 and it is a great lens. I bet the Tamron 70-180 is a great lens as well. One advantage the Sony 70-200 2.8 has over the Tamron is that the Sony works with the 1.4x teleconverters and I shoot sports a lot so having the extra reach is very nice. I hope Tamron comes out with a 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 200-400 4, and a 150-600 would be great as well. It is nice to have many options.
Well if I survive covid-19 I'll be buying it, until then can't buy anything lol thanks for the review Manny!
You will survive it like almost everyone brother
put those lenses as your motivation to keep alive :D
So did you buy it?
So did you survive?
I too heard mixed reviews on the Sony 70-200 from various sites. I guess I am luck that the one I have does not have focusing issues like yours. In fact, the Sony 70-200 is the sharpest and best performance when compared to all others I'd used; Canon and Nikon. Having said that, I think the Tamron is the best value in terms of performance and weight; my left hand gets tired after holding the Sony after a while out in the field. If you are on a budget, the Tamron is a no-brainer.
My only question would be Sigma's upcoming 70-200, which you just KNOW is going to have more elements and 'possibly' have a slighty creamier background than the Tamron... however, with the Covoid-19 issue going on, who knows when it will be released..... also, what will the Sigma go for???...
Just solidified my purchase of this lens!!!
The AF on the Tamron really amazes me. Traditionally the "native" lens focuses faster. I am currently a Nikon DSLR shooter and using a D5 or D500 there is a noticeable difference between the native 70-200 and third parties. When I was looking to upgrade my old 70-200, I tested the Tamron 70-200 G2 and it hunted sometimes. It also struggled more than the native lens in low light. The one exception was the Sigma 70-200 Sport lens, that I found indistinguishable from the Nikon. I ended up getting a used Nikon for a little less than a new Sigma. Regardless, on a lens that is used for action, I have always found the native lens better. This is clearly an exception to that! Third party lenses just keep getting better and better.
Note that I am not against 3rd party lenses and absolutely love the Tamron 85mm prime (it has stabilization, which I love!) but I am not very worried about focusing speed, because I use it almost entirely for portraits.
Great video! Thank you for that! Love your content, actually spent all the night watching your videos
pause 0:21.. thanks for the video. It's crazy what Tamron is putting out for the price
Thanks for the review! I am definitely going with the Tamron now