Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 Di III VXD Review: The Itty Bitty Full Frame Tele
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- Tamron's 70-180mm F2.8 is impressively compact and sharp. Find out how this itty bitty 70-180mm F2.8 zoom from Tamron performs.
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I love your reviews. Extremely perceptive, clear, candid, practical and concise. Thank you.
This is a great addition to the Tamron 28-75 that has been working perfectly fine for me since the release
Yes same here mate , and a bonus we do not have to spend $ 3000 to get it ;) .
@@mikldude9376 I still think Tamron 28 75 is too good for the price!
the 28-75 was even better than some of the GM primes I tested it against at the camera store!
@Paul Jones I agree, I shoot ltm or m mount so I care little for these plastic coffee mugs. but compare it to a similar zeiss lens and it is a bargain lmao
No image stabilisation is a deal breaker
It seems to be a sort of compromise lens, but I like the way this is going. I love that there is a choice between expensive quality beasts and cheap portables, this is the promise of mirrorless that I was mostly looking for.
Wouldn't call the sony "quality" since this is better lens
Great review! I'm giving serious thought to this lens and this video is by are the best review I've seen. So many of the reviews just rave about this lens and this review did a great job of providing pluses and minuses.
This is great man waited for a long time for this review 🙌🙌
There are very few lens reviewer on TH-cam I trust. You are one of them. You share pros and cons with an economy conscious approach.
Exactly! Most are raving about this lens like they do about every new product for the clicks and views. Others seem to switch camera brand every time a new model is released. The minute most channels omit to talk about the negatives they lose the average viewer.
2:02 - Love Chris' conversion. Seems accurate enough. 😂
Been waiting for DPReview to review this lens, clicked immediately. Thanks guys. When I first started photography I liked the heavy lenses like Sigma Art, they just felt kinda pro. But after five years, I really am drawn to the lighter lenses. This Tamron is not perfect, but it’s on the shopping list.
Me: I don't need this lens...
Me: I'll add it to the wish list just in case...
Me: I don't need it, I'll delete it from the list
Me: F@ck* it I need this, I'll put it on the cart...
Thanks for the review - would love to see you do the Tamron 17-28 F2.8 next.
Good thing is that you don't need stabilization when shooting sports. You need fast shutter speed for that anyway. Many use this kind of focal range for sports and events.
I bought the Sony GM 100-400 mm instead, for landscapes, as it costs only 1/3 more, and you get OSS. This, the huge distortion on the long end, the lack of OSS and busy bokeh pulled me of.
@@bioliv1 Yeah, I felt he kinda discounted the Sony options a bit too much. There are certainly situations where better stabilization helps more than just a faster shutter speed.
@@ziginox Yeah, I think for the Yaw and Pitch axis there will be no effect at 180 mm, this must be done with OSS: th-cam.com/video/DgbXp3-sdpI/w-d-xo.html
So for handheld landscape the GM 100-400 mm is a much better option. If it was not for this crises I would have waited for Sigma, but I think their option will be at least one year delayed. So I ordered the GM before it gets a price increase.
A lot of events (weddings) can be in low light so stabilisation is handy there. But then can't have it all. Personally I'd still go for the smaller size rather than stabilisation as would also use this for travels.
@@bioliv1 I was looking at the 100-400 also but that lens is several years old and it would kill me to buy one and then have Sony release a newer version. Kinda happened to me with the A7RIII, 8 months later and the IV came out. The Camera Store said they would give me $1400 for my III on trade in for the IV... Geez, no way.
staying at home I didn't shave for a couple of weeks, and I enjoyed it for that time, who cares if you are scruffy when no one is seeing you, but then decided I had to shave it off. I would love to see an image quality comparison of the Tamron 70/180 f2.8 and the new Canon 70/200 f2.8 since they have similar designs. stay safe.
2:03 gotta love the conversions between U.S. and Canada metrics. My other favorites conversions are money. A classic from Chris.
Actually it is the US versus pretty much the rest of the world - Myanmar (also known as Burma), Liberia and the US are the only countries not using the metric system. And I agree, it's funny. Reminds me of some of my American friends :-)
Super informative and useful video as always! 😊
These are the only people I watch for camera gear reviews
Well, the bokeh might be not that good - but overall, this is fantastic "budget" option for the A7 line-up. Being lighter and smaller (including filter thread) is a nice bonus in my regards. Still undecided if I should boost up my A7 system (I have only the standard and mediocre kit zoom) or continue to hone my M43 system (nice little Pen F and already all the lenses I need) …
Jordan gets extra points for the dynamic (shadow) background at 4:20
Well the most important you did not show: portraits at 180mm F2.8 with some busy backgrounds
I was going to say the same thing about this video , they didn't use F2.8 that much in this review. Other reviews used the F2.8 way more
Portraits are what this lens was made for...
There wasn't any on the website?
One of the reasons it’s usually the last review I watch! But just my point of view portraits look beautiful.
Thank you for clarifying Stabilization info
1:32 so relatable 😂
Matthijs de Deugd IKR?!?
Really wanting this for my A6700
Great review guys! I worry about 180 v 200 with sports I need the extra.
best youtube channel period !!!
3:48 is that supposed to be a water molecule painted on the wall? One hydrogen and two oxygen atoms? Artist clearly dropped science.
"... yeah dude, it's 'H, two O'"
@@ihaveanametoo You're cracking me up xD
(*Googles “hydrogen dioxide”*)
Or maybe they have a more expansive mind and this is a needle drop point.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATC_code_H02
Check out hydroperoxyl, but still the bonds are wrong.
love the crop sensor incorporation! would a separate video be asking for too much?
Tamron has had a good mix of value for money and performance quality for some time now. I’d love to see how this performs when shooting both pics & vids for indoor sports like amateur ice hockey and basketball.
I own the other two Tamron zooms, but I'm not sure about this one. My Sony 70-200 F4 performs pretty well. Fantastic AF, and the OSS makes a huge difference. Pretty much always nails focus (with a7iii).
Biggest reason for me to go for the Tamron 70-180 would be the size and weight, and I love the close focusing (also on the 28-75).
I am expecting my Sony soon. Hopefully some additional glass soon but looking at the Sigma 30mm F1.4 art lens first. Also upping my lighting game too for my video stuff. This Tamron is interesting but don't know if it will be in my collection. Always good to see you guys showing us possibilities.
thank u v much this video really helped a lot... i was wondering what lens did u use for panasonic s1h to shoot this video???
Having the focus ring near the camera body actually makes way more sense. You're not continuously moving the focal length ring as much compared to the focus ring while using manual focus. Also, it allows you to palm the camera to keep a steady shot while using your pointer finger to spin the focus ring.
I didn’t see how much the lens extends when changing focal length. It does extend right? Otherwise, what’s the lock tab for?
Very helpful. Thank you.
If you are getting motion blur at 250th shutter, I would try decaf.
i’m watching the video because it is you guys’ video.
because...
no OIS......???
i’m glad i own the 28-75mm for my A7III...as well as the 15-30 and the 70-200 for my D800E.
i had high expectations for this lens... which would mean i might be able to ‘release’ my Nikon setup..in lieu of the Sony and the FujiFilm that i also use.. but....damn... no OIS !! ??
Making a ~70-200 telephoto without an OIS is like making a Sony 7S camera that won’t shoot video..
thanks for the video, guys. solid and funny, as usual ;)
cheers from Portugal
That intro alone is worth watching the whole video
what is the keeper rate of the 70-180 at 1/60th of a second shutter speed at 180mm with IBIS?
I thought in body stabilisation is superior compared to lenses with it. Especially on a7r bodies. I'm shooting with Olympus and its stabilisation is insane. I also watched a video of Olympus's stabilisation going up against one of the Sony's and Sony was able to just edge it. Any feedback on this would be great.
At last someone addressed lack of IS in this lens. Waiting for Sigma 70-200 2.8 FE now. Might be the case that I would buy R5 + their IS 70-200.
That lens is going to be massive and heavy.
yeah..that 70-200 Canon could be the lens that stirs me away to Canon, dropping Nikon, Sony and maybe even Fujifilm, which is what i currently use.
and the new R5 seems to being up there with their lenses . finally !
@@a1exsand The Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DN isn't massive, so I would expect the 70-200 DN not to be massive, but more in between the Tamron 70-180 and the GM 70-200, just like the DN 24-70 was more in between.
So the question is, would you trade the IS and function buttons for an extra stop of light? Also isn’t the sony f4 internally focusing (ie. the lens doesn’t extend when zooming)? I have the 28-75 and have recently had some concerns with the plastic wearing out as it zooms in and out... Thanks for the great review as always, stay safe :)
I used this lens with Nikon Z6 and Megadap ETZ21. It is the awesome combination.
I'm really confused by the zoom and focus rings being "reversed". My 200-600 has the zoom up front, focus in back. Same with my 70-400G lens, Tamron 70-300 (A mount on both of those). The only lens I have with the zoom in back and focus up front is the A mount 16-50mm. Are all my lenses just "odd"?
5:50 one might try to remove the baffle and put the SEL14TC behind it
Beautiful travel friendly lens. Stabilization absence is not a huge deal unless you shoot at 180mm. Busy bokeh can be an issue though as big reason people want to buy fast lenses is to get pleasant background separation.
Arrggh! Maybe, I'll have to add this lens to my short list of possibilities.
I’m looking at buying a zoom lens for sports video shoots. Do you think the Sony F4 is better suited for this or the Tamron 70-180?
0:50 Bonus points for the upside-down windmill reflection shot! And the slick focus-pull edit at 1:00 ! The windmill shadow shot at 4:20 had me waiting for a big windmill reveal climax at the end but... ;-(
The lens? What about the lens? I shoot MFT. ;-)
It would be great if you could compare to the Sony 70-200mm f4. I understand the Tamron has large aperture. I still think comparison of he two is still relevant because of the similar weight and price point.
Wow . Iam buying this
love you guys！
Nice lens! Does anyone know why my steadyshot is not working with this lens and my sony a6000? It says "invalid lens". Is this a firmware thing? Or it won't work at all?
I’m using the a7iii with the 28-200 Tamron in manaul. Auto focus in poor lighting (middle school indoor basketball is going to be my main focus for the next few years), the 28-200 is struggling. I’m considering the 70-180, any thoughts?
you guys are great..
Why is this video not posted on the dpreview website?
The metric measurement to regular measurement conversions are always the best 😂
Thanks for an amazing review! I own both A036 and A046, but I totally agree with your point on image stabilization. I'm fed up with those Sony clients who believe IBIS is a panacea. Lens-based stabilization is generally more powerful, and it works in tandem with IBIS.
Also, I'm waiting for Tamron to develop a teleconverter for this lens, if possible.
Yeah, I think for the Yaw and Pitch axis there will be no effect at 180 mm, this must be done with OSS: th-cam.com/video/DgbXp3-sdpI/w-d-xo.html
So for handheld landscape the GM 100-400 mm is a much better option. If it was not for this crises I would have waited for Sigma, but I think their option will be at least one year delayed. So I ordered the GM before it gets a price increase.
I think shorter focal length lighter lenses don't need it but a lens this long is harder to steady and needs VR
This would make a great travel lens instead of a heavier, larger 70/80-200mm f2.8. Also reminds me that a Nikon classic lens used to be the 180mm f2.8...
Wondering what tripod head and tripod you are using
How bad is the focus breathing though? This is a 180mm lens so I'd like to see it compared to an actual 200mm lens. A lot of 70-200mm lenses actually are way lower than 200mm. For example, the old Tamron 70-200mm was closer to 140mm due to this issue
Where everyone else just gush’s over this lens... You boys give a honest credible review... Well done lads... That said.. In my opinion....It’s an absolute no brainer for the money....Great bang for the buck as they say....😎
No brainer? It costs 2/3 of the GM 100-400 mm. When I saw the price I ordered the GM immediately. Checked prices now: Tamron: 18 990,- N.Kr. Sony GM: 29138,-
N.Kr.
Øyvind Holmstad Goin apples to almost apples... Tamron 70-180 is $1200 and the Sony 70-200 is $ 2600.... You have to admit that’s a huge difference....
@@krazyk57 That is 15.000 N.Kr., so the difference is 5.000 N.Kr. more in your country, so it makes the difference huger, in other words the price of the excellent new Samyuang 75 mm f1.8, as I now plan to get for portraits, as I didn't go for Tamron, which even has poor bokeh.
@Brendon Fernandes Yes, I needed a lens to isolate subjects in the increasingly messy landscape around Lake Mjøsa. I hoped to get what I needed in the Tamron, but now I must get the GM 100-400 mm, the Samyang 75 mm, and the G 24-105 mm instead. The GM is too heavy for travels and ordinary walk-around, that's why I must get the 24-105, it's too slow for portraits, that's why I must get the 75 mm Samyang f1.8. So Tamron is a huge disappointment, and as Sony has nothing that comes near the new RF 70-200, I must buy three new lenses to replace it.
@Brendon Fernandes Yeah, the bokeh ment a lot to me, as I wanted to combine it with portraits and shooting bokeh dreamy landscapes through wild flowers in summertime. That's why I decided the new Samyang 75 mm f1.8 is a better option for this. And for shooting landscapes handheld freezing in wintertime, you need Yaw and Pitch axis OSS on longer focal lengths: th-cam.com/video/DgbXp3-sdpI/w-d-xo.html
I planned this Tamron to be my last lens, using it together with my 24 mm GM. But now my walk around kit will be 24 GM, 24-105 G and 75 mm Samyang, and the GM 100-400 I will take out with alone from time to time.
Oh, and the huge distortion on the long end was a disappointment as well: sonyalpha.blog/2020/04/09/tamron-70-180mm-f2-8-di-iii-vxd/
Jordan gets a pass :I think he is busy at home these days with the new addition to the Drake household!
Thanks for the review-I am seriously considering this to replace my Sony 70-200 f4 lens as it looks a lot more compact even if the weight is similar. It looks as if it would be great for travel.
Its rmamazing the lense selection sony has from other companies.
What is with the odd focal lengths and Tamron?
I’m excited to be able to fit the Tamron Holy Trinity in my Think Tank Retrospective 7 as my everyday carry.
Might get this for my a7ii
9:50 well, I wouldn't fully agree on that. Compared to the Sony 70-200 F4 the f2.8 of the Tamron is an advantage, sure. But don't forget that the Sony has the OSS (it makes a HUGE difference when you switch off the OSS on the lens, even if you have IBIS), it's dust resistant (not good for the reselling price when you have fat dust particles under the lens) and it has 20mm longer focal length, which is definitely a difference. So the f2.8 advantage of the Tamron definitely comes with tradeoffs which have to be considered well. Personally I've decided for the Sony F4 and against the Tamron. OSS and 20mm longer focal length are more important to me.
I had the Sony 70-200 f4 lens and sold it and bought this Tamron 70-180. Wow, what a difference! So much more light, lighter, sharp and doesn't draw too much attention. I was blown away by the picture quality on my a7riii. The most beautiful thing is that I can use this lens indoors too. I know to each his own, but more me, this Tamron every time!
I own the 17-28 and 28-75 already and am very happy with those. This lens is on my list for this summer. But its being not being stabilized makes me worry...
Also me, i have many years ago a Olympus 70-200 lens
with no IBIS it was not perfect 🙄
Same, ibis is not enough at that focal length. At 70 maybe, 180 hell no.
I alrdy preordered it before I watch the video. Just wanna knw what I am gna get.
Hi, I'm more interested in this lens on a tripod for sunset and sunrise landscape photography. Using it stopped down and probably between 135 and 180mm mostly and longer exposures. Can anyone with experience with this lens give views on if it is a good choice? Thanks
From my experience, it would be a very good choice.
1:33 Life changing neck strap experience? 🤣
I know the G Masters can be heavy but 48,000 + pounds??!! Dang.
For the price i took the Sigma 70-200 Sports+MC11 for sony A7iii. Proper strong 70-200
I wish Tamron would make them for L-mount, I could use some light lenses.
Sony owns a big part of Tamron,that's why they are only sony E mount,that's why they work so well with Sony cameras.
@@billzidis2656 That's just not true. Sony Corp. owns a 10% stake on Tamron, which is probably enough to suggest things, but nowhere near enough to control the company. Tamron act as an OEM for most camera companies, including Nikon and Sony (only Canon make and design *all* of their interchangeable lenses in-house), which means they get all of the technical specs directly from the manufacturers. This explains why their lenses usually work with less issues than comparable Sigma models.
Speaking of Sigma, they're the third leg of the L-Mount Alliance, and it's probably them who're keeping Tamron out.
@@Ildskalli The fact that tamron lenses work like sony lenses on sony cameras it's true. I own them, and i can confirm it. You can also upgrade the firmware of your tamron lenses through the camera, like originals.
Very interesting. Unfortunately no test with fast moving objects... would be interesting to see how thisa lense performs atr plane- and helicopterspotting using the full 180mm and fast 1/800 to 1/1000s! Cause I guess f/2.8 would reduce ISO noise drasticly.
Made in Vietnam! Điểm danh (hahaha)
Nice and detail review as always!
Chuc Quang 🤙
Good review overall. I'm in the market for new zoom lens, something I can use to take photos of the moon while it's between buildings, travel size in the same time. I'm looking on to Sony 100-400 GM, but the price tag is just way far then what I can justify or afford now. I woulder if Temron 70-180 would be a good option.
Luckily well below 1000 USD price difference in Norway, so I got the GM. I found the Tamron chocking expensive, almost 3 times more expensive than what I paid for my 28-75 two years ago.
1:05 Wait, was that a giant color calibration target?!
Also, no at 2:13, no Noct units?
Will you guys be reviewing the Tokina lenses when they come out? I'd really love to see some comparisons with the existing Sigma competition.
Also, I feel you didn't really give a proper comparison with the 70-200 f/4. Obviously you get more light, but the G lens includes optical stabilization, and isn't to terribly far off from the Tamron's price.
Ok now, i'm waiting for sth like 150-400 4.5-5.6 lens with os. Come on Tamrony :)
Love my 17-28 2.8 :)
Two Wheels dawg..... get the Sony G 70-300.. OSS + IBIS 🔥. Tap on that APSC button on your a7riii for 450mm at 19MP still. You’re welcome :)
Wow! It can be new "beercan" for Sony)))
Why is the lens bare backed on the table in the thumbnail?!?!?!?
Great review. I own the sony 70200GM. Even if this lens is way bigger than the tamron, I don't consider switching.
If I want a lighter telephoto lens I just grab the 135GM. Plus on the tamron it is not possible to put any teleconverter where on the sony I can put the ×1.4 or ×2.0.
But it is a great addition to the sony line up. The tamron trinity is unbeatable for quality/price ratio.
One question about this good review of a nice lens : what about tripod collar? Is there one? If not, is there an option available?
I have a 70-210 f4 full frame that is 710 gram and filter size 55mm. It's old and all metal, but does this 2 stops matter that much
Bert Sw Two stops is the difference between iso 3200 and iso 12800.
@DPReview Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 will give you sharp sunstars at f22 😉 you may need to tinker with the angle a little bit.
I have doubt that this lens fits stable on tripod without a lens bracket. I think for a A6300 it will be problem of the camera housing weight load. It is only less weight if 30g than FE 70200f4....
It weights less than the original 24-70....
Fits Canon 77D?
This tamron trio of lenses is single handedly keeping me with Sony over the new R5. Gonna wait for the next sony flagship. This tamron set is too good for the $$ u spend!
I am planning to buy tamron 70-180mm f2.8 lens for sports photography. Does the lack of image stabilization on the lens affect sports photography a lot. P / s: I use Sony A6500
Usually in sports shooting, many will actually turn the image stabilization off, it's more about shutter speed. And if you're using the 6500 (APSC), that actual F stop on the lens would be at f/4.2. You times the F stop by 1.5 to get the actual f stop. That's why I'm using a full body camera to keep the 2.8.
The distortion at 180mm (4:40) also looks really bad, why aren't you testing that?
ah, somebody noticed ... looks like these days you absolutely must use software to get usable results ... a couple years back this would be total trash with long end distortion almost in the center of the frame ...
Great review, still deciding wether I should buy this or the Sony 70-200 f4.
So what did u choose
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b Will wait for a suitable deal and then go for the Tamron
@@gfx-vision got the tammie for 1200 and love it
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b I'm glad to hear that, congrats. Do you think the plastic on the lensl will hold up well for the next 5-10 years? I will be buying it fairly soon.
@@gfx-vision honestly i really dont know, i dont think lenses like 28-75 and 70-180 existed for more the. 5 years but honestly the build quality is nice! I think its plastic but doesnt feel like plastic. Idk if youve ever used dji drones but it kinda feels like that material but smooth. Only advice i can give you: if youre a photographer, best choice BYFAR.
If you mostly do video and your never in low light areas, go for the sony i guess? I kinda miss stabilization even with ibis. The way too solve this tho is build a rig! Recommend using a monitor for it, maybe tophandle and some other things to get max potential out of it!
Made in my country!
So today you can buy a A7 III with Tamron's 28-75 and 70-180mm and you can do 90% of what clients want and need in photo and video. Compared to lost setups... Leaves you room to improve and buy gear.
is it good for sport ?
The holy trinity at a cheaper price and with amazing results.
Hope they don't release another telezoom with more reach because then people can't take about the trinity anymore, which they seem to love so much.
Give me the Sony 70-200 F4 G any day, such a great lens so underated.
I have the 70-200mm f/4 G lens and I don't think that i will switch to this lens.
The Tamron is so much sharper than the 70-200f4 whose replacement is long overdue...
I’m going to wait to see what Sigma has to offer. I want it for wedding videography so I want IS
I thought the same, but with the current situation I think that lens will be delayed with at least one year, so I bought the Sony GM 100-400 mm instead. I might sell it if Sigma comes with a killer 70-200 one day.
@@bioliv1 lolol very accurate as it turns out. Hope the 100-400 is working out for you!
@@caleblatreille8224 Extremely good lens! The tension ring was a little loose, but I returned it last week, and they promised to tighten it, so I hope the lens creep will be gone when I get it back:-)
Isn’t this lens having .5 magnification like a junior macro lens?
Torn between this and a Sigma 135/2 for event work. If I go for the latter, I'll have to get Tamron's 70-300 for scenic work. Hmmm.....
I use the 70-180 for event work. Plus, I can use it indoors and out. With the 135mm, you're sort of limited.
Is it just me - the grade on this seems a little off? No blacks.
BTW I find the IBIS on my GH5 works better with a 350mm non-IS lens (700mm equiv FoV) than using the OIS in the 100-300 Panny lens (which doesn't support Dual-IS). I was very surprised. Although the smaller m43 sensor does allow for more movement.
Yeah, m43 IBIS is nuts
Although it is valuable to have such a compact and light lens (specially for travelling) I would miss the 20mm, I would miss the AF/MF switch, the stabilizer, the linear focusing and a distance scale, and the great built quality which all are on the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 and all of the competing lenses from Canon, Sigma and Sony. I was hoping very much to get the 70-200 G2 lens with the SONY E mount and with the release of this lens my hopes are gone ... and by the way, I tried the 28-75 for video and the manual focusing was a nightmare. I wasn't able to get a shot with manual rack focusing at all ... and the plasticky build is terrible ... I even know a person who accidentaly broke the lens in two parts ... so the lens went quickly away from my kit and I can't think of buying any other lens of this kind. It's a pitty that Tamron went this plastic way ...
Agreed 100% (I know I am replying late). I have the G2 for the Nikon F-Mount and it's a great lens and I wish I could use it on my A7R4
It is very strange to me as to why they didnt put in stabilization. Even the cheaper 35-150mm has IS built in.