Like it’s not even an easy mistake. One of the most famous TOS episodes is called The Tholian Web. On top of that, the Tholians play a huge role in one of the most famous episodes in Enterprise. They may not be a popular species in a broader sense like Vulcans or Klingons, but they’re pretty popular within the sphere of Trek.
Thullians😄😄😄😄 Ok.......... For that miscue, you must watch the original series episode ‘ The Tholian Web’ at least 5 times next week followed by an oral reciting of the ENTIRE EPISODE line by line in EACH CHARACTER ROLE
I liked watching Quantum Leap, it was an original idea for a television show. It sure beats the poorly written crime dramas, medical dramas, drama queen dramas, re-paved over crapola that they're putting out today. If someone showed up with an original idea these days, they wouldn't know what to do with it.
While Tholians are xenophobic, they are not overtly violent. It's just that their reasoning is frequently beyond humanoid understanding. This could be explained by their advanced knowledge concerning spatial and temporal anomalies.
You make a fair point, but at the same time, they do mess around with things they shouldn't. They're responsible for what happened to the Defiant (TOS) As well as the Enterprise-C. Maybe that was just the earlier Tholians and the later ones were better I don't know I do know they were one of the first to have a Temporal Agency, though whether that agency is as selfless or logical as the Federation counterpart I don't know.
@@Gunnar001 michael heath may have a point. If Tholians were the first to have a temporal agency, and they were fooling with time travel about the time the Enterprise C was about to go to battle to save that Klingon outpost from the Romulans, they may have accidentally sent the Enterprise forward in time, creating the circumstances for their meeting with Enterprise D. This is all speculation though.
@@johnw2026 They are, they dont openly go out and try to invade other species or wage war like the Klingons and Romulans do though they have attacked Federation outposts afew times. They keep to themselves and only get aggressive when they believe someone is trying to steal their secrets. Hence why all the powers just leave them be. Even during the dominion war, the Tholians had every opportunity to get involved but they didn't, they remained a neutral party.
I remember this episode when it first came out. As I was raised on watching Star Trek thanks to my mom, I remember me, my mom, and my brother were all like "Tholian's" as soon as we saw the ship.
Archer never tells them his first name, and yet that's what they call him. The Tholians already know who he is, likely already know the Enterprise by sight, and one could speculate they know this by combing the data banks of the Defiant from the Tholian Web episode.
Iirc, doesn't ENT have a Mirror Universe episode that shows the Defiant under their Tholians' control in this (relative) time frame? They used it as validation for how the Terrans had such a grip on their space by the time Kirk and Spock first visited the Terran Universe later?
@@alexspencer5926 yes, but it takes place after this publication-wise, and I like to think that, chronologically, it is also later than this point. It's a fun thought about the time-traveling aliens more than anything.
I don't know if a Ferengi brain can handle the sight of a tholian in TOS it drove one human insane. It put Spock in a catatonic state requiring the assistance of a telepathy to come out of it. The only human to live with the tholian's was blind.
The Tholians were an extremely xenophobic, non-humanoid hermaphroditic species with a propensity for precision. History and politics: The head governmental unit of the Tholians was the Tholian Assembly. During the mid-22nd century, the Vulcan High Command had only limited contact with the Assembly. It was, however, unknown at the time that they may have been involved as a faction in the Temporal Cold War. (ENT: "Future Tense") First contact with Earth: In 2152, the Tholians made an unusual move; they traveled far beyond their territory and actively sought to possess a 31st century time travel pod discovered by the Earth starship Enterprise NX-01, under the command of Jonathan Archer. Four Tholian ships intercepted and disabled the Vulcan cruiser Tal'Kir, while it waited to rendezvous with Enterprise. They, in turn, attacked and defeated a Suliban fleet that was in pursuit of the arriving Earth ship. They then successfully removed the pod from Enterprise's possession, only to have the pod return to its proper time moments later. (ENT: "Future Tense") The Defiant incident: In the mirror universe, in 2155, the Tholians detonated a tri-cobalt warhead inside the gravity well of a dead star. The explosion created an interphasic rift which acted as a doorway to a parallel universe. Because of its instability, the Tholians reasoned that it was too dangerous to send one of their own ships through, so they transmitted a distress call into the opening, hoping to lure a ship from the other side. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly") In 2268 of the prime universe, the Federation starship USS Defiant entered this region of space, annexed by the Tholians, in response to the distress call. Three weeks later, the starship USS Enterprise discovered the Defiant trapped in a spatial interphase, only to observe the starship, and consequently landing party leader James T. Kirk, cross over into the mirror universe. Shortly thereafter, a Tholian ship intercepted the Enterprise, demanding that it leave Tholian territory. At the request of First Officer Spock to be allowed to rescue Kirk from the Defiant, Tholian Commander Loskene allowed the Enterprise and its crew a small timeframe before they were required to withdraw. Because the Enterprise crew was unable to rescue Kirk in the time provided, though, the Tholians opened fire, damaging the Enterprise. A second Tholian starship soon arrived and the Tholians then attempted to trap the Enterprise in their web. The Enterprise, however, was able to recover Kirk and escape successfully, without actually falling victim to the web. (TOS: "The Tholian Web") In the conclusion of "In Essence Nothing" (a story outline that became "The Tholian Web"), the Tholians followed the Enterprise, once Captain Kirk was rescued, into the parallel dimension and approached the starship for another attack. Outmatched by the Enterprise in this strange alternate dimension, the Tholians accepted peaceful overtures initiated by the retrieved Kirk and finally returned to normal space with the Enterprise. (The Star Trek Compendium, 4th ed., p. 116; [1]) Unknown at the time, the Defiant had traveled back in time to the mirror universe, where, when fully clear of the interphase, it was towed by the Tholians of that universe to a small moon drydock in the Vintaak system, deep in Tholian space. There, they employed several humanoids to gut the ship. Commander Jonathan Archer of Starfleet learned of the vessel's presence in his universe. He commandeered the ISS Enterprise and flew it deep into Tholian space, while cloaked, to steal the Defiant. After Archer sent a boarding party to the Defiant, the Tholians spun a tractor web around the Enterprise and destroyed it. The boarding party managed to activate the Defiant's systems, but not before the Tholians spun a tractor web over the entrance of the drydock. The Defiant then destroyed three Tholian ships and the moon's drydock, before escaping the system. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly", "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II") Later aggressions: The Tholians' contact with Starfleet over the next century was sporadic. In 2353, Kyle Riker, father of William T. Riker, was a civilian strategist advising Starfleet in an ongoing conflict with the Tholians. The starbase he was operating out of was attacked, resulting in the death of the entire base crew except for Kyle, who survived his injuries. (TNG: "The Icarus Factor") "The Icarus Factor" gives no further details beyond mentioning "[...] Starfleet in its conflict with the Tholians." Kyle Riker's posting afer his recovery at Tokyo Base to work out the Fuurinkazan battle strategies, as well as his following work as a tactical advisor to Starfleet at Starbase Montgomery may or may not be related to this "Tholian conflict." In the script of DS9: "Homefront", it is stated that Admiral Leyton is "a veteran of conflicts with the Romulans, Cardassians, Borg, and the Tholians." The Tholians remained sufficiently dangerous for Starfleet to develop Tholian-based battle simulations. In 2355, during one such simulation, William T. Riker used a notable strategy to calculate a sensory blind spot on a Tholian vessel. (TNG: "Peak Performance") The Tholians continued to be a strategic concern for Starfleet well into the 2360s, when it was anticipated by Klingon special emissary K'Ehleyr that, if a Klingon Civil War were to break out in 2367, the Tholians might eventually be involved. (TNG: "Reunion") Trade and diplomacy: The Tholians conducted business with Bajoran trader Razka Karn in the early 2370s. They pursued him because of unscrupulous "business" practices, so he took refuge in the Badlands. (DS9: "Indiscretion") According to a dialogue in the deleted scene 2 of the episode "Defiant", a Tholian ambassador aboard Deep Space 9 reported that someone broke into his quarters during the night and stole three cases of latinum which was meant to be the dowry for his wedding. [2] Several weeks later, Odo accused Nog of stealing from the Tholian ambassador on Deep Space 9 and arrested Nog and Jake Sisko for the deed. However, this was actually part of a plan Jake Sisko had formulated in an attempt to repair his friendship with Nog. Nog maintained his innocence, claiming not even to know what a Tholian looked like. (DS9: "Life Support") At one point, the Tholian ambassador on DS9 owed the station commander, Captain Benjamin Sisko, a favor and obtained Tholian silk for him, which Sisko then gave to his girlfriend, Kassidy Yates. (DS9: "The Way of the Warrior") The following year, a Tholian observer was killed in the bombing of the Antwerp Conference on Earth by a Dominion infiltrator. (DS9: "Homefront") Despite this, the Tholians signed a non-aggression pact with the Dominion in the following year, prior to the outbreak of the Dominion War, remaining neutral throughout the conflict. (DS9: "Call to Arms") In 2379, Romulan Senator Tal'aura had an appointment with the Tholian ambassador to Romulus, conveniently causing her to leave the Senate chambers only moments before the assassination of the entire Senate. (Star Trek Nemesis)
At 00:25 Tholian starship! The Tholian starship of the 22nd century was a relatively small starship employed by the Tholian Assembly. Affiliation: Tholian Assembly Active: 22nd century Crew complement: Could be operated by a single individual Armament: Particle beam weapons, Tholian web, energy-dampening weapon History: In 2152, making an unusual move, the Tholians traveled far beyond their territory, as they attempted to possess a 31st century time-travel pod discovered by the Earth starship Enterprise NX-01. Four Tholian starships intercepted and disabled the Vulcan cruiser Tal'Kir while it waited to rendezvous with Enterprise. They also attacked and defeated a fleet of Suliban vessels that were in pursuit of the arriving Earth ship. They then successfully removed the pod from Enterprise's possession, only to have the pod return to its proper timeline moments later. (ENT: "Future Tense") In the mirror universe, numerous Tholian starships were encountered by the ISS Enterprise in 2155. A single vessel of this class was no match for an NX-class starship, though several of these vessels were capable of destroying such a craft, particularly when employing a Tholian web. These vessels later discovered Enterprise's illegal presence in the Vintaak system, attempting to steal the USS Defiant. Several of these ships encased Enterprise with a web, then proceeded to destroy it with weapons fire. These vessels later attempted to block the Defiant to prevent its theft, only to be destroyed. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly", "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II") Mike Sussman was thrilled that many Tholian ships were shown in "In a Mirror, Darkly" and that the destruction of one of these was portrayed on-screen. He reckoned, "I think they created another 12 Tholian ships that surrounded the Enterprise." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 15 & 17) Technical dataEdit Tholian vessels were of a characteristic cuneiform shape, and their small size made this type of vessel highly agile. Each side of its exterior had a glowing, patterned screen panel. This class was outfitted with formidable weaponry, including a type of energy-dampening weapon which they used against Enterprise to render it almost completely powerless. The interiors of these vessels were kept at temperatures exceeding 200 °C. (ENT: "Future Tense", "In a Mirror, Darkly") The screen panels at the sides of the Tholian ships were the result of an attempt to show where the power and energy came from, inside the ship. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) In the final draft script of "Future Tense", the Tholian ships' energy-dampening weaponry was referred to as "energy pulses". The concept that the insides of the Tholian ships were extremely hot was established in "Future Tense". It came from speculations which Mike Sussman, who co-wrote that episode with Phyllis Strong, found while reading through many "semi-professional publications" which had been written about Star Trek; some individuals had suggested that seeming ripples in the viewscreen image from a 23rd century Tholian ship in TOS episode "The Tholian Web" were actually heat ripples. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16) Background information: In the final draft script of "Future Tense", this type of ship was described as "a sleek, wedge-shaped alien starship." The task of modifying the 23rd century style of Tholian ship for the predominantly 22nd century settings of Star Trek: Enterprise was made the responsibility of Concept Artist John Eaves, who regarded the opportunity as "a great assignment to retro-out the Tholian ship." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 10) Due to the original configuration having been extremely memorable, designing an earlier version of it for Enterprise was always going to be difficult. Eaves had to create something new while also incorporating the design language that TOS Art Director Matt Jefferies had established for the Tholian ship. For Eaves, the solution was to retain parts of the original design, while making the styling of the new version appear slightly older. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) John Eaves wanted to keep the front view of the modified Tholian ship style identical to its predecessor but chose to make some changes to the exterior elsewhere, as he felt the profile view of the original craft was somewhat harsh and stark. "I thought it would be good to elongate the ship so that it appeared sleeker," he stated, "but also make it look like it could be a forebear of the original design." A new element he decided to add was the screen panels on the sides of the exterior. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) For help with modifying the Tholian ship, John Eaves consulted Scenic Art Supervisor Michael Okuda. "I talked to Mike a lot about ship ideas," Eaves recalled. "He was the go-to guy if I had questions. He was always there to make sure I was keeping the design in the vein of the original. I liked to try and push it right to the edge until he'd say, 'OK, that's kind of borderline, but I think it will still be approved.'" (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) Although John Eaves usually liked to devise at least four or five alternative designs before submitting them to the producers for approval, the 22nd century style of Tholian ship turned out to be a rare exception. In fact, Eaves immediately hit upon a suitable design direction and ended up offering only two layouts. These were demonstrated in a collection of concept illustrations, dated November 2002. Eaves was particularly pleased with one of these configurations, which made use of negative space at the rear. The other version, however, was the preferred choice of the producers. "But it wasn't a hardship or a problem," Eaves related. "I was happy with either one of these designs." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 12-13 & 10-11) Although Mike Sussman was instrumental in reintroducing Tholian spacecrafts on Star Trek: Enterprise, he was not directly involved in updating the look of the vessels. "I had no idea what the art department was going to come up with in terms of [...] [the Tholian] ship," he reflected. "I was just super-thrilled to see what they had designed." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16) Despite obviously being related to the original design of Tholian ships, the Star Trek: Enterprise version was represented with modern visual effects. It was built and animated as a CGI model at Eden FX. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) John Eaves was unsure of the size of the 22nd century form of Tholian ship, an aspect which viewers were also puzzled about. Eaves remembered, "I was basing my design on the size of the original [....] I didn't know if the Tholian ship was piloted by one guy, or two guys, or even a whole crew." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) The revised final draft script for "In a Mirror, Darkly" does, though, refer to a Tholian starship as "small." Apocrypha: In Star Trek Online, the 22nd-century Tholian ships (or ones with a similar appearance) are known as Tholian Widow fighters, and are deployed from larger carrier-type Tholian ships as combat craft.
Tholians Origin: Tholian space. A highly advanced sentient - apparently crystalline species, non-humanoid in appearance and extremely territorial in disposition. They hail from a hot planet by human standards, probably not Class-M. Together, two Tholian ships can literally spin a web of energy in space in order to trap an enemy vessel, after which the web is then drawn together, constricting and finally destroying the vessel inside. On stardate 5693.2, the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 made first contact with this species.
Anyone who has ever played Star Trek Online knows this ship the Tholian MeshWeaver tier 5 Escort no longer top of the line but still a decent ship. I keep one in my active ship list.
0:27 I really liked how John Eaves designed this magnificent 22nd Century version of the iconic Tholian ship! In the final draft script of "Future Tense", this type of ship was described as "a sleek, wedge-shaped alien starship." The task of modifying the 23rd century style of Tholian ship for the predominantly 22nd century settings of Star Trek: Enterprise was made the responsibility of Concept Artist John Eaves, who regarded the opportunity as "a great assignment to retro-out the Tholian ship." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 10) Due to the original configuration having been extremely memorable, designing an earlier version of it for Enterprise was always going to be difficult. Eaves had to create something new while also incorporating the design language that TOS Art Director Matt Jefferies had established for the Tholian ship. For Eaves, the solution was to retain parts of the original design, while making the styling of the new version appear slightly older. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) John Eaves wanted to keep the front view of the modified Tholian ship style identical to its predecessor but chose to make some changes to the exterior elsewhere, as he felt the profile view of the original craft was somewhat harsh and stark. "I thought it would be good to elongate the ship so that it appeared sleeker," he stated, "but also make it look like it could be a forebear of the original design." A new element he decided to add was the screen panels on the sides of the exterior. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) For help with modifying the Tholian ship, John Eaves consulted Scenic Art Supervisor Michael Okuda. "I talked to Mike a lot about ship ideas," Eaves recalled. "He was the go-to guy if I had questions. He was always there to make sure I was keeping the design in the vein of the original. I liked to try and push it right to the edge until he'd say, 'OK, that's kind of borderline, but I think it will still be approved.'" (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12) Tholian starship concept art John Eaves' concept art for the modified Tholian ship image: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/4/44/Tholian_starship_concept_art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141115112812&path-prefix=en Although John Eaves usually liked to devise at least four or five alternative designs before submitting them to the producers for approval, the 22nd century style of Tholian ship turned out to be a rare exception. In fact, Eaves immediately hit upon a suitable design direction and ended up offering only two layouts. These were demonstrated in a collection of concept illustrations, dated November 2002. Eaves was particularly pleased with one of these configurations, which made use of negative space at the rear. The other version, however, was the preferred choice of the producers. "But it wasn't a hardship or a problem," Eaves related. "I was happy with either one of these designs." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 12-13 & 10-11) Although Mike Sussman was instrumental in reintroducing Tholian spacecrafts on Star Trek: Enterprise, he was not directly involved in updating the look of the vessels. "I had no idea what the art department was going to come up with in terms of [...] [the Tholian] ship," he reflected. "I was just super-thrilled to see what they had designed." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16) Despite obviously being related to the original design of Tholian ships, the Star Trek: Enterprise version was represented with modern visual effects. It was built and animated as a CGI model at Eden FX. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) John Eaves was unsure of the size of the 22nd century form of Tholian ship, an aspect which viewers were also puzzled about. Eaves remembered, "I was basing my design on the size of the original [....] I didn't know if the Tholian ship was piloted by one guy, or two guys, or even a whole crew." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) The revised final draft script for "In a Mirror, Darkly" does, though, refer to a Tholian starship as "small."
Tholians: We need the ship. It is dangerous to you? Archer: We can't give it to you. Tholians: Damn translator made it sound like I was asking you a question.
Be careful what you wish for you may not like the result. Have you seen star Trek discovery? The one thing the fans got wrong is Discovery should NOT be using the delta insignia from the Enterprise. Back then each star ship had it's own insignia. A capital D in script maybe.
@@drmayeda1930 I have seen "Star Trek: Discovery" it's very bad! But I heard that there will be much better "Star Trek" TV Shows including a new "Star Trek: Animated Series!"
archer: what did he say? hoshi: idk sir but it probably wasn't a compliment. me: archer, he called you a fucking asshole. archer: thanks random interdimsenional traveler we can't id but willing to talk to because why the fuck not.
Archer: "What did he say there at the end Hoshi?" Hoshi: "I'm not certain sir. All I was able to translate were the words 'time ship', 'rectum' and 'sideways'...and I believe, something about 'wrapping something up in barbed wire first'". 😂
The theme song is ridiculous indeed, for a show about science to open with a Christian rock chorus about "I got faith...", I get it. But the theme song is different from past Trek orchestrals in the same way that Archer is different as a Captain. Archer is less refined and more of a brash cowboy than Kirk even, and not an intellectual at all compared to guys like Picard. He even keeps a dog in his quarters! Archer represents the baby boomer ideal of the American man, they decided to go with an "America imposing its will on the world after WW2" portrayal of the first human voyages into the galaxy. So the theme song fits Archer. Being a Picard fan, I thought of Archer as the opposite of what I wanted for a Trek captain. He had to win me over very slowly as the series went on, but eventually he did, so it's worth watching with an open mind. Any fan of pre-2008 Trek does themselves a disservice by skipping Enterprise IMO, it's up there with TNG and TOS, above DS9 and VOY.
The main species is called Tholian however, these ol' chaps were Thullians. They hailed from the bottom lands of West Virginolian. They are a very close knit offshoot of the main Tholian society that consisted of a Pawolian, Mawolian, and Bubbaolian members. The Thullian seen in this clip was actually the more rare type called a Jimbobolian. They are seen most often trying to collect rare artifacts in order to court potential mates, the auntsisterolians.
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I wonder how many clicked on this video because Tholian was misspelled?
(raises hand)
I liked the clip, but me too
This clip was currently uploaded seven years ago and the misspelling still hasn't changed.
yep, thought there was another species i don't know that maybe just was shown in a single episode and i forgot about it
Yup. Same.
Me: Wonder who the Thullians are.
T'Pol: The vessel is Tholian.
Me: Ah.
No web holding them in? Did I miss something? They were the ones who put a spider-like web around the USS Enterprise a century later.
@@virginiaconnor8350 I think they needed multiple ships to create the web? Not certain of that.
I think we all thought the same thing!
It took me a minute, not gonna lie lol
Along with the Breen, the Tholians are one of the most underutilized races in the whole Trek franchise. But I guess that adds to their mystique
Dude, sheliak corportate
doomer they had all
Of Picard to meet them again but, NOPE.
Tzenkethi is one of my favorite mysterious races that they should utilize more!
But I too love the tholians and the Breen
DS9 did use the Breen a lot more, but only in the final season
I would've loved to see the Tholians fight during the Dominion War.
Tholian, not Thullian.
Jamie Thomas I agree, there’s no such race called Thullian
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Revoke the op’s geek membership card.
Like it’s not even an easy mistake. One of the most famous TOS episodes is called The Tholian Web. On top of that, the Tholians play a huge role in one of the most famous episodes in Enterprise. They may not be a popular species in a broader sense like Vulcans or Klingons, but they’re pretty popular within the sphere of Trek.
Thullians😄😄😄😄
Ok..........
For that miscue, you must watch the original series episode ‘ The Tholian Web’ at least 5 times next week followed by an oral reciting of the ENTIRE EPISODE line by line in EACH CHARACTER ROLE
i bet he did it on purpose to get people to comment and stuff :)
Archer:
What did he say?
He said Quantum Leap was shit
Fire at will
Will isn't here
For the time it was made, Quantum Leap was THE SHIT! Great series!
Perfectly justified.
I liked watching Quantum Leap, it was an original idea for a television show. It sure beats the poorly written crime dramas, medical dramas, drama queen dramas, re-paved over crapola that they're putting out today. If someone showed up with an original idea these days, they wouldn't know what to do with it.
ooowee! Great comment! You may now Drop The Mic!
While Tholians are xenophobic, they are not overtly violent. It's just that their reasoning is frequently beyond humanoid understanding. This could be explained by their advanced knowledge concerning spatial and temporal anomalies.
You make a fair point, but at the same time, they do mess around with things they shouldn't. They're responsible for what happened to the Defiant (TOS) As well as the Enterprise-C. Maybe that was just the earlier Tholians and the later ones were better I don't know I do know they were one of the first to have a Temporal Agency, though whether that agency is as selfless or logical as the Federation counterpart I don't know.
Michael Heath They had nothing to do with the Enterprise-C.
If they're harmless please explain the Tholian Web.
@@Gunnar001 michael heath may have a point. If Tholians were the first to have a temporal agency, and they were fooling with time travel about the time the Enterprise C was about to go to battle to save that Klingon outpost from the Romulans, they may have accidentally sent the Enterprise forward in time, creating the circumstances for their meeting with Enterprise D.
This is all speculation though.
@@johnw2026 They are, they dont openly go out and try to invade other species or wage war like the Klingons and Romulans do though they have attacked Federation outposts afew times.
They keep to themselves and only get aggressive when they believe someone is trying to steal their secrets. Hence why all the powers just leave them be.
Even during the dominion war, the Tholians had every opportunity to get involved but they didn't, they remained a neutral party.
I remember this episode when it first came out. As I was raised on watching Star Trek thanks to my mom, I remember me, my mom, and my brother were all like "Tholian's" as soon as we saw the ship.
Archer: "What did he say?" Hoshi: "Something about your mother, sir." :-p
Archer never tells them his first name, and yet that's what they call him. The Tholians already know who he is, likely already know the Enterprise by sight, and one could speculate they know this by combing the data banks of the Defiant from the Tholian Web episode.
Iirc, doesn't ENT have a Mirror Universe episode that shows the Defiant under their Tholians' control in this (relative) time frame? They used it as validation for how the Terrans had such a grip on their space by the time Kirk and Spock first visited the Terran Universe later?
@@alexspencer5926 yes, but it takes place after this publication-wise, and I like to think that, chronologically, it is also later than this point. It's a fun thought about the time-traveling aliens more than anything.
Evil Archer gets even when he freezes one of them to death.
Thats an event that only applies to the viewer however. Archer doesn’t get any satisfaction from that.
The Tholians just learned a valuable lesson about humanity. We can tolerate not winning a fight, but we'll be damned if we're gonna lose a war.
"I don't even know what a Tholian looks like"
- Nog
😂😂😂
I don't know if a Ferengi brain can handle the sight of a tholian in TOS it drove one human insane. It put Spock in a catatonic state requiring the assistance of a telepathy to come out of it. The only human to live with the tholian's was blind.
@@drmayeda1930 No. That was a different race.
@@drmayeda1930 That was a Medusan.
I remember when I bought the Tholian ship finally in Star Trek Online. I havent played that game for years but damn I loved it.
Its like a tiny little arrowhead poking away at things much larger than it and actually winning.
I play Star Trek online and i to bought a Tholian Meshweaver for 3 million EC i still fly it every now and then. I keep her in my active ship list.
Tholians don't have a soft spot for Humanoids, period. I wager Commander Loskene was in command of that ship.
Doubtful, it's set 110 years before the Defiant disappeared
@@1993bahamut we don't know how long tholians can live.
@cleekmaker00
They are cristalline, they have no soft spots, period! ;-P
@@1993bahamut If the cause of the Deviant's disapp
The Tholians were an extremely xenophobic, non-humanoid hermaphroditic species with a propensity for precision.
History and politics:
The head governmental unit of the Tholians was the Tholian Assembly. During the mid-22nd century, the Vulcan High Command had only limited contact with the Assembly. It was, however, unknown at the time that they may have been involved as a faction in the Temporal Cold War. (ENT: "Future Tense")
First contact with Earth:
In 2152, the Tholians made an unusual move; they traveled far beyond their territory and actively sought to possess a 31st century time travel pod discovered by the Earth starship Enterprise NX-01, under the command of Jonathan Archer. Four Tholian ships intercepted and disabled the Vulcan cruiser Tal'Kir, while it waited to rendezvous with Enterprise. They, in turn, attacked and defeated a Suliban fleet that was in pursuit of the arriving Earth ship. They then successfully removed the pod from Enterprise's possession, only to have the pod return to its proper time moments later. (ENT: "Future Tense")
The Defiant incident:
In the mirror universe, in 2155, the Tholians detonated a tri-cobalt warhead inside the gravity well of a dead star. The explosion created an interphasic rift which acted as a doorway to a parallel universe. Because of its instability, the Tholians reasoned that it was too dangerous to send one of their own ships through, so they transmitted a distress call into the opening, hoping to lure a ship from the other side. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly")
In 2268 of the prime universe, the Federation starship USS Defiant entered this region of space, annexed by the Tholians, in response to the distress call. Three weeks later, the starship USS Enterprise discovered the Defiant trapped in a spatial interphase, only to observe the starship, and consequently landing party leader James T. Kirk, cross over into the mirror universe.
Shortly thereafter, a Tholian ship intercepted the Enterprise, demanding that it leave Tholian territory. At the request of First Officer Spock to be allowed to rescue Kirk from the Defiant, Tholian Commander Loskene allowed the Enterprise and its crew a small timeframe before they were required to withdraw. Because the Enterprise crew was unable to rescue Kirk in the time provided, though, the Tholians opened fire, damaging the Enterprise. A second Tholian starship soon arrived and the Tholians then attempted to trap the Enterprise in their web. The Enterprise, however, was able to recover Kirk and escape successfully, without actually falling victim to the web. (TOS: "The Tholian Web")
In the conclusion of "In Essence Nothing" (a story outline that became "The Tholian Web"), the Tholians followed the Enterprise, once Captain Kirk was rescued, into the parallel dimension and approached the starship for another attack. Outmatched by the Enterprise in this strange alternate dimension, the Tholians accepted peaceful overtures initiated by the retrieved Kirk and finally returned to normal space with the Enterprise. (The Star Trek Compendium, 4th ed., p. 116; [1])
Unknown at the time, the Defiant had traveled back in time to the mirror universe, where, when fully clear of the interphase, it was towed by the Tholians of that universe to a small moon drydock in the Vintaak system, deep in Tholian space. There, they employed several humanoids to gut the ship. Commander Jonathan Archer of Starfleet learned of the vessel's presence in his universe. He commandeered the ISS Enterprise and flew it deep into Tholian space, while cloaked, to steal the Defiant. After Archer sent a boarding party to the Defiant, the Tholians spun a tractor web around the Enterprise and destroyed it. The boarding party managed to activate the Defiant's systems, but not before the Tholians spun a tractor web over the entrance of the drydock. The Defiant then destroyed three Tholian ships and the moon's drydock, before escaping the system. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly", "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II")
Later aggressions:
The Tholians' contact with Starfleet over the next century was sporadic. In 2353, Kyle Riker, father of William T. Riker, was a civilian strategist advising Starfleet in an ongoing conflict with the Tholians. The starbase he was operating out of was attacked, resulting in the death of the entire base crew except for Kyle, who survived his injuries. (TNG: "The Icarus Factor")
"The Icarus Factor" gives no further details beyond mentioning "[...] Starfleet in its conflict with the Tholians." Kyle Riker's posting afer his recovery at Tokyo Base to work out the Fuurinkazan battle strategies, as well as his following work as a tactical advisor to Starfleet at Starbase Montgomery may or may not be related to this "Tholian conflict." In the script of DS9: "Homefront", it is stated that Admiral Leyton is "a veteran of conflicts with the Romulans, Cardassians, Borg, and the Tholians."
The Tholians remained sufficiently dangerous for Starfleet to develop Tholian-based battle simulations. In 2355, during one such simulation, William T. Riker used a notable strategy to calculate a sensory blind spot on a Tholian vessel. (TNG: "Peak Performance")
The Tholians continued to be a strategic concern for Starfleet well into the 2360s, when it was anticipated by Klingon special emissary K'Ehleyr that, if a Klingon Civil War were to break out in 2367, the Tholians might eventually be involved. (TNG: "Reunion")
Trade and diplomacy:
The Tholians conducted business with Bajoran trader Razka Karn in the early 2370s. They pursued him because of unscrupulous "business" practices, so he took refuge in the Badlands. (DS9: "Indiscretion")
According to a dialogue in the deleted scene 2 of the episode "Defiant", a Tholian ambassador aboard Deep Space 9 reported that someone broke into his quarters during the night and stole three cases of latinum which was meant to be the dowry for his wedding. [2]
Several weeks later, Odo accused Nog of stealing from the Tholian ambassador on Deep Space 9 and arrested Nog and Jake Sisko for the deed. However, this was actually part of a plan Jake Sisko had formulated in an attempt to repair his friendship with Nog. Nog maintained his innocence, claiming not even to know what a Tholian looked like. (DS9: "Life Support")
At one point, the Tholian ambassador on DS9 owed the station commander, Captain Benjamin Sisko, a favor and obtained Tholian silk for him, which Sisko then gave to his girlfriend, Kassidy Yates. (DS9: "The Way of the Warrior")
The following year, a Tholian observer was killed in the bombing of the Antwerp Conference on Earth by a Dominion infiltrator. (DS9: "Homefront") Despite this, the Tholians signed a non-aggression pact with the Dominion in the following year, prior to the outbreak of the Dominion War, remaining neutral throughout the conflict. (DS9: "Call to Arms")
In 2379, Romulan Senator Tal'aura had an appointment with the Tholian ambassador to Romulus, conveniently causing her to leave the Senate chambers only moments before the assassination of the entire Senate. (Star Trek Nemesis)
Jamie Olberding thank you
You're welcome.
Too short, consider adding a few more paragraphs of detail next time...
I mean, you could have just linked to Memory Alpha instead of putting the whole article here.
You are a true nerd. 👍
"Tholians", not "Thullians". They were the antagonists in "The Tholian Web", a Star Trek: The Original Series episode.
Have you seriously not changed the misspelling in the title of this video by now?
One of the best Trek episodes in any trek series
Hoshi played by Linda Park also was a Nice-Looking Girl in this Series
At 00:25 Tholian starship!
The Tholian starship of the 22nd century was a relatively small starship employed by the Tholian Assembly.
Affiliation:
Tholian Assembly
Active:
22nd century
Crew complement:
Could be operated by a single individual
Armament:
Particle beam weapons, Tholian web, energy-dampening weapon
History:
In 2152, making an unusual move, the Tholians traveled far beyond their territory, as they attempted to possess a 31st century time-travel pod discovered by the Earth starship Enterprise NX-01. Four Tholian starships intercepted and disabled the Vulcan cruiser Tal'Kir while it waited to rendezvous with Enterprise. They also attacked and defeated a fleet of Suliban vessels that were in pursuit of the arriving Earth ship. They then successfully removed the pod from Enterprise's possession, only to have the pod return to its proper timeline moments later. (ENT: "Future Tense")
In the mirror universe, numerous Tholian starships were encountered by the ISS Enterprise in 2155. A single vessel of this class was no match for an NX-class starship, though several of these vessels were capable of destroying such a craft, particularly when employing a Tholian web.
These vessels later discovered Enterprise's illegal presence in the Vintaak system, attempting to steal the USS Defiant. Several of these ships encased Enterprise with a web, then proceeded to destroy it with weapons fire. These vessels later attempted to block the Defiant to prevent its theft, only to be destroyed. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly", "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II")
Mike Sussman was thrilled that many Tholian ships were shown in "In a Mirror, Darkly" and that the destruction of one of these was portrayed on-screen. He reckoned, "I think they created another 12 Tholian ships that surrounded the Enterprise." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 15 & 17)
Technical dataEdit
Tholian vessels were of a characteristic cuneiform shape, and their small size made this type of vessel highly agile. Each side of its exterior had a glowing, patterned screen panel. This class was outfitted with formidable weaponry, including a type of energy-dampening weapon which they used against Enterprise to render it almost completely powerless. The interiors of these vessels were kept at temperatures exceeding 200 °C. (ENT: "Future Tense", "In a Mirror, Darkly")
The screen panels at the sides of the Tholian ships were the result of an attempt to show where the power and energy came from, inside the ship. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
In the final draft script of "Future Tense", the Tholian ships' energy-dampening weaponry was referred to as "energy pulses".
The concept that the insides of the Tholian ships were extremely hot was established in "Future Tense". It came from speculations which Mike Sussman, who co-wrote that episode with Phyllis Strong, found while reading through many "semi-professional publications" which had been written about Star Trek; some individuals had suggested that seeming ripples in the viewscreen image from a 23rd century Tholian ship in TOS episode "The Tholian Web" were actually heat ripples. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16)
Background information:
In the final draft script of "Future Tense", this type of ship was described as "a sleek, wedge-shaped alien starship."
The task of modifying the 23rd century style of Tholian ship for the predominantly 22nd century settings of Star Trek: Enterprise was made the responsibility of Concept Artist John Eaves, who regarded the opportunity as "a great assignment to retro-out the Tholian ship." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 10) Due to the original configuration having been extremely memorable, designing an earlier version of it for Enterprise was always going to be difficult. Eaves had to create something new while also incorporating the design language that TOS Art Director Matt Jefferies had established for the Tholian ship. For Eaves, the solution was to retain parts of the original design, while making the styling of the new version appear slightly older. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
John Eaves wanted to keep the front view of the modified Tholian ship style identical to its predecessor but chose to make some changes to the exterior elsewhere, as he felt the profile view of the original craft was somewhat harsh and stark. "I thought it would be good to elongate the ship so that it appeared sleeker," he stated, "but also make it look like it could be a forebear of the original design." A new element he decided to add was the screen panels on the sides of the exterior. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
For help with modifying the Tholian ship, John Eaves consulted Scenic Art Supervisor Michael Okuda. "I talked to Mike a lot about ship ideas," Eaves recalled. "He was the go-to guy if I had questions. He was always there to make sure I was keeping the design in the vein of the original. I liked to try and push it right to the edge until he'd say, 'OK, that's kind of borderline, but I think it will still be approved.'" (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
Although John Eaves usually liked to devise at least four or five alternative designs before submitting them to the producers for approval, the 22nd century style of Tholian ship turned out to be a rare exception. In fact, Eaves immediately hit upon a suitable design direction and ended up offering only two layouts. These were demonstrated in a collection of concept illustrations, dated November 2002. Eaves was particularly pleased with one of these configurations, which made use of negative space at the rear. The other version, however, was the preferred choice of the producers. "But it wasn't a hardship or a problem," Eaves related. "I was happy with either one of these designs." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 12-13 & 10-11)
Although Mike Sussman was instrumental in reintroducing Tholian spacecrafts on Star Trek: Enterprise, he was not directly involved in updating the look of the vessels. "I had no idea what the art department was going to come up with in terms of [...] [the Tholian] ship," he reflected. "I was just super-thrilled to see what they had designed." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16)
Despite obviously being related to the original design of Tholian ships, the Star Trek: Enterprise version was represented with modern visual effects. It was built and animated as a CGI model at Eden FX. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13)
John Eaves was unsure of the size of the 22nd century form of Tholian ship, an aspect which viewers were also puzzled about. Eaves remembered, "I was basing my design on the size of the original [....] I didn't know if the Tholian ship was piloted by one guy, or two guys, or even a whole crew." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) The revised final draft script for "In a Mirror, Darkly" does, though, refer to a Tholian starship as "small."
Apocrypha:
In Star Trek Online, the 22nd-century Tholian ships (or ones with a similar appearance) are known as Tholian Widow fighters, and are deployed from larger carrier-type Tholian ships as combat craft.
"Would you kindly DIE?"
Mirror Phlox, torturing a Tholian.
This was such a great episode. One of my favorites, from a great Trek series that was cancelled way too soon🖖🏽🫡
Tholians
Origin: Tholian space.
A highly advanced sentient - apparently crystalline species, non-humanoid in appearance and extremely territorial in disposition. They hail from a hot planet by human standards, probably not Class-M. Together, two Tholian ships can literally spin a web of energy in space in order to trap an enemy vessel, after which the web is then drawn together, constricting and finally destroying the vessel inside. On stardate 5693.2, the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 made first contact with this species.
Anyone who has ever played Star Trek Online knows this ship the Tholian MeshWeaver tier 5 Escort no longer top of the line but still a decent ship. I keep one in my active ship list.
I have a physical copy from the Star Trek Starship Collection magazine. I'd love a miniature one if Micro Machines did Trek ships again.
Someone made a simple yet "Thull-ish" mistake in the title. :)
The Tholians came back in time to Will Smith slap the person that called them Thullians 😂
0:27 I really liked how John Eaves designed this magnificent 22nd Century version of the iconic Tholian ship! In the final draft script of "Future Tense", this type of ship was described as "a sleek, wedge-shaped alien starship."
The task of modifying the 23rd century style of Tholian ship for the predominantly 22nd century settings of Star Trek: Enterprise was made the responsibility of Concept Artist John Eaves, who regarded the opportunity as "a great assignment to retro-out the Tholian ship." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 10) Due to the original configuration having been extremely memorable, designing an earlier version of it for Enterprise was always going to be difficult. Eaves had to create something new while also incorporating the design language that TOS Art Director Matt Jefferies had established for the Tholian ship. For Eaves, the solution was to retain parts of the original design, while making the styling of the new version appear slightly older. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
John Eaves wanted to keep the front view of the modified Tholian ship style identical to its predecessor but chose to make some changes to the exterior elsewhere, as he felt the profile view of the original craft was somewhat harsh and stark. "I thought it would be good to elongate the ship so that it appeared sleeker," he stated, "but also make it look like it could be a forebear of the original design." A new element he decided to add was the screen panels on the sides of the exterior. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
For help with modifying the Tholian ship, John Eaves consulted Scenic Art Supervisor Michael Okuda. "I talked to Mike a lot about ship ideas," Eaves recalled. "He was the go-to guy if I had questions. He was always there to make sure I was keeping the design in the vein of the original. I liked to try and push it right to the edge until he'd say, 'OK, that's kind of borderline, but I think it will still be approved.'" (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 12)
Tholian starship concept art
John Eaves' concept art for the modified Tholian ship image: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/4/44/Tholian_starship_concept_art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141115112812&path-prefix=en
Although John Eaves usually liked to devise at least four or five alternative designs before submitting them to the producers for approval, the 22nd century style of Tholian ship turned out to be a rare exception. In fact, Eaves immediately hit upon a suitable design direction and ended up offering only two layouts. These were demonstrated in a collection of concept illustrations, dated November 2002. Eaves was particularly pleased with one of these configurations, which made use of negative space at the rear. The other version, however, was the preferred choice of the producers. "But it wasn't a hardship or a problem," Eaves related. "I was happy with either one of these designs." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, pp. 12-13 & 10-11)
Although Mike Sussman was instrumental in reintroducing Tholian spacecrafts on Star Trek: Enterprise, he was not directly involved in updating the look of the vessels. "I had no idea what the art department was going to come up with in terms of [...] [the Tholian] ship," he reflected. "I was just super-thrilled to see what they had designed." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 16)
Despite obviously being related to the original design of Tholian ships, the Star Trek: Enterprise version was represented with modern visual effects. It was built and animated as a CGI model at Eden FX. (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13)
John Eaves was unsure of the size of the 22nd century form of Tholian ship, an aspect which viewers were also puzzled about. Eaves remembered, "I was basing my design on the size of the original [....] I didn't know if the Tholian ship was piloted by one guy, or two guys, or even a whole crew." (Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection, issue 26, p. 13) The revised final draft script for "In a Mirror, Darkly" does, though, refer to a Tholian starship as "small."
Don't you hate it when a Unknown Starship messes up your booty call.
Tractor beam at warp? Sounds dangerous.
Dax:I don't give a f..
Sounds impossible...
20,000 kilometers and closing. Yet it's close enough that it's about 3 enterprise lengths back. Looks more like 2000 meters to me.
How could they misspell Tholian so badly? Also, they don't have "a" system, they have a small empire they formed after fleeing the Andromeda galaxy!
Those Tholian mesh weavers are great in Star Trek Online.
Archer: "Why are you here?"
Tholians: "Defending your reality"
*Tholians! How has he not changed the title yet? Lol
Tholians: We need the ship. It is dangerous to you?
Archer: We can't give it to you.
Tholians: Damn translator made it sound like I was asking you a question.
4 seasons and 10 books. ENT is my favourite classic Trek series.
Its Tholians. And they ROCK!!!
Tholians are awesome!
Tholians* i think its you that need to lay off the Ale my guy.
i sure wish enterprise would have gone on a few more seasons.....they were just getting it together when it was cancelled.
I definitely long for more star treks
Me too!
Be careful what you wish for you may not like the result. Have you seen star Trek discovery? The one thing the fans got wrong is Discovery should NOT be using the delta insignia from the Enterprise. Back then each star ship had it's own insignia. A capital D in script maybe.
@@drmayeda1930 I have seen "Star Trek: Discovery" it's very bad! But I heard that there will be much better "Star Trek" TV Shows including a new "Star Trek: Animated Series!"
@@jamieolberding7731
This aged poorly... Unfortunately there was no good Star Trek after Nemesis and Enterprise
@@mds_main Yes and also No.
20 thousand kilometres yet it was almost right next to Enterprise
Yeah, kind of ridiculous. I don't think the Enterprise would be visible to the naked eye at 20,000 km.
THOLIANS, DAMN YOU!!!
I know they said we will be back and you will be sorry 😂
archer: what did he say?
hoshi: idk sir but it probably wasn't a compliment.
me: archer, he called you a fucking asshole.
archer: thanks random interdimsenional traveler we can't id but willing to talk to because why the fuck not.
Tholian translation : Screw you Archer!🤣😂
Tristan - spell check!
Great show!!
Many people who write about Star Trek really know nothing about it ,Thullians indeed? Serek?
The OP needs to learn to spell "Tholian"
Neighbours of the tholians.
Tholians want ice cream
Archer: "What did he say there at the end Hoshi?"
Hoshi: "I'm not certain sir. All I was able to translate were the words 'time ship', 'rectum' and 'sideways'...and I believe, something about 'wrapping something up in barbed wire first'". 😂
Real sickos.
Call them THULLIAN to their faces, I dare you!
I really like "Star Trek: Enterprise!" It is so much better than that trash they call "Star Trek: Discovery!"
and the Picard show
@@oldtwinsna8347 That too. Picard and Discorvery were just.......... TERRIBLE SHOWS!
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A new race that looks just like the tholians
Why is it that every sci fi translation system is heavily censored for curse words?
It's Tholian people. Tholian.
Fyi. It is spelled THOLIAN
Why do people love Voyager, when this was way superior?
He says sorry to bother you
This video’s title is misleading! I don’t see any Thullians in this video anywhere!
I wonder what Tholians would think of spider webs.
I don't know, but I bet the less sophisticated of them call them spudder webs.
Tholian not Thulian. Goes back to the episode the Tholian Web from the original Star Trek.
Tholians ! Not Thullians
Thullians? Don't you mean Tholians?
THOLIANS
Tholians versus the Evil Galactic Empire! Who would win? I'm betting on the Tholians winning!
Tholians!
EP PLEASE ????????????
If you play Star Trek Online, you'll know what or how this ship winds up.
How?
Thullians? Is that how the name of the race is spelled? It sounds more like Tholians to me.
This is the only way I can watch this show. If I sit down and try to watch a full episode I'm done as soon as the theme song comes on.
The theme song is ridiculous indeed, for a show about science to open with a Christian rock chorus about "I got faith...", I get it. But the theme song is different from past Trek orchestrals in the same way that Archer is different as a Captain. Archer is less refined and more of a brash cowboy than Kirk even, and not an intellectual at all compared to guys like Picard. He even keeps a dog in his quarters! Archer represents the baby boomer ideal of the American man, they decided to go with an "America imposing its will on the world after WW2" portrayal of the first human voyages into the galaxy. So the theme song fits Archer. Being a Picard fan, I thought of Archer as the opposite of what I wanted for a Trek captain. He had to win me over very slowly as the series went on, but eventually he did, so it's worth watching with an open mind. Any fan of pre-2008 Trek does themselves a disservice by skipping Enterprise IMO, it's up there with TNG and TOS, above DS9 and VOY.
what was the name of this episode?
"Broken Bow" Part One From Star Trek: Enterprise.
Tholians, breen, gorn, sheliak, tzenkethi alliance would work
It would be problematic is what it would be
@@Yeager123123 They're all highly sociable races.
@@WhySoSerious551 that would be the most awkward dinner ever having them all at the table! lol
Diplomacy 101, do not give binary choices, keep the conversation going, Archer we will not give you it. Doesn't leave any room for conversation.
Nooo not drinking much Romulan Ale they have drinking to much Klingon Blood wine hehe :D
It's 2019 and the op still can't be arsed to correct his naming error :P DERP.
They sound like an elk alien... considering there's a thula elk species... logic dictates i must be correct
Who are the "Thulians.....?"
Tholians...man get your Trek right!
It's "Tholian"
That's Tholians, not Thullians.
please correct your title. it's THOLIANS.
Tholians not Thullians
Thullian? What's a Thullian?
Must be the Temporal radiation!
High command 🤔🙁
It’s Tholians not thuilians tho
How can you fail to spell THOLIAN
You ever heard of a Thullian web??? It's THOLIAN!! Tholian with one L and a big fat O! Turn in your friggin geek badge!
Tholians.
Its Tholian disphit not thullian
Tholians* not Thullians !!
Thullians ?
I can't tell - is it Thullian or Tholian? Isn't there anybody out there who can tell me? Answers of 10,000 words or more preferred.
The main species is called Tholian however, these ol' chaps were Thullians. They hailed from the bottom lands of West Virginolian. They are a very close knit offshoot of the main Tholian society that consisted of a Pawolian, Mawolian, and Bubbaolian members. The Thullian seen in this clip was actually the more rare type called a Jimbobolian. They are seen most often trying to collect rare artifacts in order to court potential mates, the auntsisterolians.
@@Avery_Hikari ROTFLMAO
THOLIAN, not THULLIAN
Tholian not Thullians
ENT ended to damn early