Kodak’s Super 8 Film: Getting Started
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- Kodak’s Super 8 Film has been around for years, but what is it? Let’s take a look at this amateur analog format and find out where it came from and where it is today to get you all started with shooting it for yourselves.
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My father recently gave me his Super 8 camera and projector from the sixties and his collection of family films so I am glad that I found your channel and able to learn about this format so I can try it out!
That sort of stuff is really what makes film so significant. It's such an experience being able to see all of that stuff years and years later because it can last for so long.
@@AnalogResurgence do you know if they did ever release any new blank super 8 film reels? I’d love to make a movie with my grandparents old super 8 camera
@@professionalmoron1565 Not sure what you mean? Are you asking if they make new film for these cameras? Kodak still makes film for Super 8 that you can buy and use in these cameras to shoot with! You can check out places like Pro8mm for it.
@@AnalogResurgence yes, thank you so much. I’ve been trying to get into making movies with super 8
Just got a super 8 on eBay. It's actually a model with sound and even came with an expired sound film reel.
Which one
It's not okay to leave a roll of film in a hot car, eh? Ha! Heh, heh.
The Motion Picture division is the only part of Kodak that's been consistently profitable. They singlehandedly brought them out of bankruptcy.
tbh it's for good reason. the quality of film is much different from digital (and imo better) so there will still be demand.
I have my aunt’s old Kodak 8mm movie camera and recently acquired another Kodak with a turret lens combo. I’m 75 years old and I’m working on a project that will use the double pass 8mm footage. Great information!
Great video! I love Super 8, and am currently making my first professional short film on it
I grew up with my dad shooting standard 8 and then Super 8. I followed on from him. Then graduated through vhs,svhs,mini dv and now digital slr etc. Good on you for telling others about this stuff. My youngest son started off similar to me and now works in the Film industry on Hollywood movies etc.
Your channel is great. I hope to have a Super 8 channel going once I get my film back from the lab to talk about(first reel ever shot). It's been an up and down adventure getting a camera that works. Anyway, I appreciate all the work you put into these videos. Keep it up! Us film dorks are out here cheering for you!
Thank you for this. So informative and important, especially since the film, developing and digitizing can add up to nearly $150 per 50' roll! But, there is nothing like Super-8. Gorgeous. Evocative. Poetic.
Your channel is awesome, and deserves more credit than the amount of subs! We share the same passion in sure, and I appreciate your efforts for amateur filmers like me!
Informative and presented really well :)
This was a great video thanks for posting it. I am definitely interested in getting a Super 8 camera with film sometime.
Awesome job Noah!
This absolutely has inspired me to pursue super 8. Great quarantine hobby
Oh TH-cam algorithms recommend me your channel. It’s like matchmaking success. I subbed and liked your content. Hope to see more content cheers!
This is very encouraging! I can now breakout my old sankyo super 8 camera and eumig projector and start shooting again!
Thanks for your work! Amazing video!
This video was awesome and super helpful thank you so much!
Great to see the Eumig 614 D projector featured in your video, and in the closing shot. I have the same projector, which works with both standard 8mm and Super 8 film. I used it recently to transfer several hours of Super 8 footage to digital by doing a screen recording using an iPhone 13 Pro Max. I used the Filmic Pro app which allowed me to set a frame rate of 18fps - the same as the projector frame rate. The results were very good, with virtually no flicker. In Final Cut Pro on my Mac mini, in a 1080p timeline, I used a frame rate of 25fps (I'm in a PAL country). Final Cut Pro conforms the clips to the correct speed by adding an extra frame every few frames - this was not noticeable, with smooth playback. I started with 8mm in 1963, progressing to Super 8 when that was introduced. I still have my original Canon Zoom 518 Super 8 camera. Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Great video!
Gold standard of tutorial vid! Thanks a lot mate
Amazing video!!! So useful. Thank you
This was so helpful, thank you!
Thrifted a Kodak Showtime projector in mint condition this week, so finding this video in my recommended was a total godsend, thank you
This was so helpful thank u
Super informative video, thank you!
Nice Kodak 16mm behind you. I have a similar model that is still chugging along as well.
FANTASTIC!! A miner detail you left out of the reg 8mm ; You would have to take the film out of the camera and literally turn it around in a dark room or a closet to shoot the hole reel.
Very well prevented and illustrated
My kinda topic
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!
amazing thank uuu just bought my first super 8 camera ;)
Super helpful vid, thank you
This is great! Thank you!
I sorely miss Kodachrome (both Super 8 and 35mm slides). It was absolutely my favourite film.
Just bought a canon super 8, excited to start shooting, thanks for the vid
Great videos⭐️
Subscribed, great info
Good stuff dude
Thank you for this 😊
I'd love to own a super 8 camera, but I have to prove to myself I want to make videos so i recently found my flip camera from 2009 and have been using it again. Thanks for the information.
I still have my flip camera😂it was my first camera I ever bought and I saved for forever for it.
this was exactly what i needed thankuuuuu
You are so welcome!!!
Great video man! I must say though, it's not always a bad idea to buy Kodachrome from eBay, several times before I've bought Kodachrome 40 from eBay and I home processed the roll using Caffenol - C. Of course there's a risk of exposing the film to light, but that's what's exciting about doing it! It also feels so rewarding when you successfully process the film! It's definitely something that super 8 enthusiasts should do at some point in their lives!
Thank you very much for this importent info. I start an stop motion movie with kodak 200T. Let you know when I finish result. Best C...
Thanks for the video!
Very well explained, and concise to say the least.
I am finding your videos really interesting. I started off in Super 8 many years ago and always loved it. I even had a business transferring old 8mm and Super 8mm to VHS. While I enjoy watching this format, it is clear that modern video quality far surpasses those old film formats. There were some great Super 8 cameras like Beaulieu which had picture quality much better than most of the cameras from that time. Can you show some of those films if they’re available? I would love to see Super 8 used as a professional format but the quality was always iffy to me, considering I can shoot 4K on my phone.
hey brother! Do you think you could do a video on Regular 8mm film? Or particularly, somewhere that develops that kind of film?
Great channel keep it up......
very helpful :)
Thank you
@3:05 if you have sound cartridges just process the film and buy yourself a projector that has a audio player in the projector. They usually have a sound out. Good luck with the syncro after you digitise it.
I worked with super 8 back in the early to mid 80s and alot of stop motion.
Awesome thank you
It's great to hear that Kodak will continue doing super 8 films but I have a question. Will they only do super 8 films or do they also do 8mm films for the older cameras?
amazing report,the only bad to shot on film is the price,is to high,and that is bad for us and for kodak,they have to fix that.
Thanks for the info! What are some 8mm films that you enjoy?
I don’t know why youtube put this in my recommended and this might help me catch an instant block but I saw the thumbnail and immediately went “why is jay baruchel explaining super 8 film”
Kodak Ektachrome is back... you can buy super 8 sound cassetes again! something about they will relase a new super 8 from kodak... im not totally sure.. but those cassetes also fits old super 8's
thank u
Nice video, thanks! I just gotta point out that you can still buy expired Kodachrome, and it is worth it. It can be easily developed to a balck and white negative or a black and white positive, the second option of course beeing the one of choice and more convenient.
Very true! I’ve unfortunately seen a lot of people shooting it or buying old rolls of it without understanding how it can be used now in this post K14 world we live in.
@@AnalogResurgenceYeah I know that problem, some get it developed in C41 and wonder (just as the lab often does) why nothing comes out. Quite dumb actually. Although there is plenty of information on the internet...
@@v-g-z3689 I'll definitely put something together focused on the story of Kodachrome and where it is today!
@@AnalogResurgenceThat would be nice to see :)
Found my family's Super 8 instamatic M24 from my childhood...WOW .!!!!! .... how can I tell if the cartridge inside it has film in that needs to be developed ???
it I'm afraid to open it
Hey there! I just got my camera and 2 films (KODAK 50D and 500T) Just wondering if anyone could explain to me which setting on my camera I should use when filming (daylight setting or tungsten setting) my camera has them both and I can’t seem to find online which setting works best for each film and what are the other factors that may play apart such as what kind of lighting situation I’m in etc.
Where i can get new films super 8? Ebay? They work? What i should know before buy someting?
Thanks!
Hi! I don’t know if you’ll see this but I was wondering is film for super 8 cameras interchangeable? Meaning if I’m shooting in mid day and then shooting late in the day can I first use the Kodak 50D and then use the Kodak 500T and then go back to the same Kodak 50D? I’m very new to cameras so I’m sorry if this is a stupid question.
Where can I find 8mm film reels for my bolex paillard b8??
Can you still digitise Kodak Ektachrome film. I’m wanting to digitise the film as well as play it back on a projector. More want to save it as digital but would of liked the option to have both. Any advice you can give will be very much appreciated, thank you
Great info! Although I was left with one question, does that mean that I have to shoot at 24fps in order to get it digitally transferred?
You can shoot any speed you want! Some labs may transfer it at 24fps and it will look fast or slow depending on what you shot it at, but you can manipulate the speed in an editing program.
Which camera and film would you recommend for a first time user?
It really depends on what features you're looking for! Really popular ones include the Canon 814, 1014 & the Nikon R10. Some cheaper options though are ones like the Yashica's LD-6, the Ricoh 800Z, and the Minolta D10/D12. This site gives such a comprehensive overview of many many different models as well: www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_list.htm
this guy legit
I just bought a chinon and I was planning on shooting once I got some film how much does it usually cost to get the material digitalized?
It depends on the lab that you use to have it done. Can range from $0.40 to $0.60 per foot of film (sometimes higher as well). 50ft of film per super 8 cartridge.
Love the video. Can color reversal and b/w reversal film be digitized as well? Ideally looking to shoot color and be able to digitize it and project the same role. Likewise, can the b/w reversal filmed be digitized? Or is there no way to shoot and digitize b/w super 8 film? Thanks!
Any lab/transfer place that can scan Super 8 can scan all types of it including reversal film!
I am new to super 8 and shot one film on an Ektachrome so far. I still don't understand, if I have to get it developed or if I would be able to project the roll after shooting if I buy an 8mm projector. anyone can help?
Any time you shoot film you then need to get it developed afterwards as well at a lab that is capable of processing super 8 film. The film you exposed in your camera is contained in the super 8 cartridge and if you try and take it out of the sealed plastic cartridge then it will be completely ruined by the light. Once you send it to a lab they will develop it and because it’s Ektachrome then you will get back a positive and you can project that! Here’s a directory of some labs that offer super 8 processing:
www.kodak.com/gb/en/motion/support/laboratories_directory/index.htm?blitz=off
Hey, how do I know if a film has already been used? I bought a super 8 and it came with one, but I dont know if its already recorded
An exposed roll of super 8 film will say ‘Exposed’ on the film at the front of the cartridge!
Just came across this video and it helped a lot, so thank you!
But I have one question: My camera seems to be able to shoot either 18 or 24 fps. Can I still choose 18 fps and get it digitalized afterwards or do I have to shoot in 24 fps because you said it's a "digital standard" ?
You can still shoot 18 and it’s less smooth then 24, but it can still be transferred easily! You might have to adjust the speed as some labs will transfer at 24 and it plays back slightly sped up.
Hi Noah
Will you be doing a talk or maybe you have done on Raspberry super8 digital cartridge
Would Kodak allow it assuming they still hold patent on cartridge
Cheers Giovanni Capaldo
Perth Australia
Hi there!
Really new to the Super8 world but have recently purchased a Canon Zoom 518 SV. If i were to use the Ektachrome film with it, could i use it on auto in daylight without it blowing out? Or is it best to switch to manual and get a meter reading, in which case how do you get a meter reading for a camera like this? Thanks so much.
I believe the 518 should be okay to auto-expose for the new Ektachrome 100iso film! super8wiki.com/index.php/Canon_518_SV_Autozoom
8mm is not very similar to 16mm, it is 16mm, just with the extra sprockets. Kodak also made a much better B/W Super 8 film called Plus X, which was not quite as fast as their current Tri-X, probably was ASA 40, as I recall. There are a few other Super 8 manufacturers in other countries as well as 8mm film manufacturers. Kahl films, and Wittner, among a few other possible. Adox was making a B/W Super 8 film, but they moved their plant a few years ago, and has yet to start back up Super 8 production. The B/W film they both make I think comes from Orwo film stock. Super 8, and film in general is expensive, but can be so rewarding at the same time. It's pleasure depends on the individual. Fun video, thanks for posting
Anything different about the Keystone 8mm?
Sound films S8 is available or just silent??
hello nice video... btw i was wondering how do you transfer the videos to your laptop?
When I shoot super 8 I take it to a film lab that has a digital scanner. So most Film Labs offer scanning services where they have a machine that will capture all the frames of the film into a digital video file that gets put on a hard drive.
Hii, I just started with Super 8 film. I bought a Canon Auto Zoom 518, wich film do I have do buy if I wanted to digitized it? Or all films can be digitized?
All films can be digitally transferred!
so the camera i own is a Bell & Howell/ Canon Cine Canonet 8 (1963) that has a reel instead of a cartridge. Does kodak also sell 8mm rolls????
Film Photography Project does!!
filmphotographystore.com/collections/movie-film
I just purchased a barely used Chinon 507sXL. Taking a trip in a couple weeks where the majority of the filming will be done outside in the sun. Which film should I shoot with for this trip?
50D color negative film is great for Bright outdoor stuff and friendly with most cameras too!
Just a few years ago all theatres went to digital. Where are all the theatrical films? I can not even google any history of film and subjects relating to theatre films used in theatres across the country There needs to be something on the web to keep the memorie of film going The youth of today will not know what film prints were that circulated to drive ins and inside theatres...across this country and the world.
There should be a documentary on cinemas that still use film reels.
I got a super 8 camera a few weeks ago and it came with some cartridges that were unused but they’re like 40 years expired. Can I still use that film or should I get new cartridges?
I would really recommend getting some fresh film!
Where do you send your film cartridge for processing and digitalization?
I'm based in Toronto and use Niagara Custom Lab for my processing and scanning services: niagaracustomlab.baremetal.com/
Kodak also has a directory of labs to help you find resources in your area: www.kodak.com/motion/support/laboratories_directory/index.htm?blitz=off
Hi Noah
Hi thank you so much for all your great videos question I like to shoot a wedding that Will Take Place in Side een Outside is het best to use 200t film with a filter? Is it Possible to use One film Why would you recommend 50D?
I would recommend 200T with the filter! 50D has a low light sensitivity so it's not good for inside
@@AnalogResurgence or maybe both 50d and 200t as I saw in your video I can swab the cardritger anytime 😃
with the comeback of etkhachrome super 8 is worth it to develop super 8 at home using the e6 chemicals?
Super 8 home developing can be a lot of work for sure, but if you have some developing experience already then it would make it easier. The initial difficulty is the 50ft long rolls that you have to deal with, so you have to track down an older tank like a lomo tank and also have a system to dry it. It really depends on where you’re located, there are E6 kits for developing at home from companies like tetenal that allow you to have enough chemicals to do multiple rolls that in the long run would be cheaper then the cost of rolls at a lab. More work involved but it’s possible. Also depends on how much you plan to shoot.
Where can I buy super 8 film. I’m having some trouble look for it :/
Check out Pro8mm:
www.pro8mm.com/?sca_ref=207073.rkNff54PoN
Or Film Photography Project:
filmphotographyproject.com
Great video, but question - why might you choose reversal over non-reversal or vice versa?
Negative film is more flexible with exposure and is available in a wider ISO variety than reversal is. Color Reversal has higher contrast and saturation in comparison to Color negative film as well, so there are some different visual characteristics between the two. Reversal is also best for projecting if you want to do that with your film!
@@AnalogResurgence Thanks for the fast reply! Holy smokes, and this video isn't new! Anyway, I have so much to learn still.
Hello there!
Then is it OK to use any film in any camera?
Mine are GAF 251xl, and Bell&Howell 672 xl. Can I use 50D in these cameras?
Some cameras are more limited than others. 50D is best to use in all cameras though! With those ones it's best not to use the higher iso films like 200 and 500 because cameras like those are all automatic and won't properly expose film like those.
I have a super 8 camera with with a mic on it
Cool. Kinda wish they still made sound film.
Hi which film do you think is superior Pro8's or Kodak's?
Pro8’s film is Kodak film! They use their own branding on it and they offer certain film types in Super 8 that Kodak makes, but doesn’t put in Super 8 cartridges themselves. Color 250D and Black and White Double-x from Kodak are available in Super only through Pro8.
I remember there was a huge difference in picture quality between K-12 (Kodachrome) and E-6 films in Super8 format. This is mostly due to very small picture, which is enlarged many times when projected. Quality of Kodachrome in Super8 format was better than consumer video cameras even in the beginning of 1990' s. This could not be said of E6 films. Especially Agfachrome, which was widely available in Europe, was terrible (grainy and with unnatural colors).
Do cameras like the Nikon R8 handle these modern stocks’ ISO/ASA okay today?
It depends on which camera, as some don't expose quite as precisely with the 500iso film stock, but the Nikon R8 specifically is a good camera which can handle all the modern stocks!
RING THAT DING
sooo- it's safe to assume that any kodak super 8 film i order today has no sound?
Yes, it’s all going to be silent film currently
REEL KOOL
hi i want to get started with this format and recently i'vge got a recorder and with it there was a new cartridge expired in 1976
the camera and film wss saved in a box in the darkness
what do you think?, should i give it a try?
by the way i thinks is a 25 iso film and has 15minutes of recording soo...
I would recommend purchasing fresh film if you really want reliable results! Expired stuff may not come out looking good and because there’s such high costs for developing and scanning it’s usually best to go with stuff that will be worth it. Also not all old stuff can be developed anymore.
50ft cartridges of super 8 will give you typically 3.5 minutes of footage (depending on the framerate of your camera)! Not 15 minutes. The package may say 15m, but that means 15 meters of film / 50ft of film!
@@AnalogResurgence oh so it's 15 meters🤣🤣 okay
yeah i think it is better to buy a fresh one but thanks tho
@6:07 - You say Tungstan film [200T/500T] could also be shot outdoors when the orange filter in activated.
This means that the 50D film shot outside- does not use the orange filter
And that 200T\500T film shot indoors- does not use the orange filter as well?
Yup! So Tungsten film shot under indoor tungsten lighting does not need a corrective filter because it is white balanced for that lighting. Daylight shot in daylight needs no filter because it is white balanced for outdoors. Anytime film is used under lights that it isn’t balanced for they need a corrective filter and Super 8 cameras typically contain an orange filter inside of them so you can use tungsten film in daylight.
@@AnalogResurgence Tnx alot for the reply!
Yes, I always forget when does the filter initiates itself.
I will try to remember that it never initiates itself unless I do it. That indoor lighting is so orange- that the 200T film is probably blue-ish to counter it.
Therefore- If I step outside- then I need to balance that blue film with an orange filter.
Question is- could you do the opposite and shoot with a 50D indoors? I don't think so. The image would be super orange.
p.s- Under a normal bright sunny day- do you ever use an ND filter while shooting SUPER8?
@@eladbari You could use a blue filter for daylight film inside, but Super 8 cameras don't have those built in. I haven't used ND's before, but you definitely could! I've always found 50D to be perfect bright sunny days without a filter.
So once you shot where you send film to be process?
You have to send it to a motion picture lab, Kodak’s website has a directory of different labs that can process this type of film!
www.kodak.com/gb/en/motion/support/laboratories_directory/index.htm?blitz=off
Did you know: Kodak is the only private company in the world that has installed a nuclear reactor in one of their office buildings.
Developed Kodak Super-8 films keep their image quality unchanged for many decades. The Kodachrome II developed in 1965 still has the same color quality as in 1965. Super-8 is perfect for long-term archiving. While many digital media are no longer legible today, Kodak Super-8 always runs.