I had Titanium Dunlop irons back last century when I started golfing. They were are starter set but they did have “flyers” built into them. I remember over-shooting greens by a long amount at times.
Was waiting for these to pop up on your channel ! Great to see you now getting access to all the top manufacturer clubs and being able to share honest reviews. 100k shortly. Congratulations to you and the team.
I couldn’t agree more with your general point about whether buyers need both a 4 and 5 iron. However, I’d also respectfully point out that you have indeed seen gaps that narrow before, if you’ve looked carefully at specs. PXG’s Gen7 XP 4 iron is 18 degrees and 5 iron is 20 degrees - 2 degree gap. Srixon’s ZX5 Mk II lofts crash together too - 22 degree 4 iron, 24 degree 5 iron. This is a big pet peeve for me, and I think all companies should do a better job of avoiding this sort of bunching. The only one I’d really credit is Ping. They maintain 3.5 degree gaps on the long ends of most of their sets, and have 3 degrees between their i530 4 and 5 irons. They also go from 1/2 inch differences in club lengths to 5/8 inch on the long end, to allow for more of a speed differential. PXG does something similar, but they still allow the lofts to bunch up too much.
Totally agree on the plastic Apex. It’s a new graphic and doesn’t seem to fit. The player who buys apex is trying to get away from the plastic inserts on all the Callaway game improvement irons
Love the attempts at innovation and i will never criticize as at some point the wheel will be re-invented so i applaud those (Manufacturers) to aim to progress
Thinking about getting fitted for the Apex Ai200 as my old apex 19s are looking a bit tired. I can't believe your not well over the 100,000 subscribers mate with the photography and content of your videos. Come on people hit the button
I’m with you. The apex logo was a mistake to an otherwise good looking iron. Gonna test this against the pxg gen7 players iron. Which is softer compared to the two ?
Still have original Callaway FT irons that had similar titanium in the head. Curious to see how these compare. My FT irons new at the time would be £2000 at today’s price.
I like the look of the irons but at £2000 pounds there is no way I'll be buying a set, plus how long will that finish last? Nice to see you playing Kirkby Lonsdale which I suggested you do some months ago when you asked for suggestions for your off the beaten track series.
I might consider this club in a driving iron, but I don’t particularly like the way it looks. Still though, I wouldn’t put it passed me, because Callaway has always surprised me in the past. 🇨🇦💝🥰🤷♂️
@@TheAverageGolfer Sorry - Without the simulator/turf spin data being reliable, will the hot titanium face generate enough spin to hold greens on longer shots? Thanks! Enjoy the videos!
Whilst I completely agree with Andy about the 4i being a waste of space for us average swing speed players, I am not convinced that the 5i is even needed unless you really prefer irons over hybrids. I also think the gapping between the 8i (149 yard carry) and 6i (175 yard carry) is almost at the limit of what is sensible - stick a 7i between the 2 and that is a 13 yard gap between each club. I really wouldn't want the gap to be any larger than that. I prefer a gap of 10-11 yards but then I prefer control over absolute distances
I might consider this club in a driving iron, but I don’t particularly like the way it looks. Still though, I wouldn’t put it passed me, because Callaway has always surprised me in the past. 🇨🇦💝🥰🤷♂️
just do what i did today. i ordered mine 1.5* weak to get a lil closer to traditional lofts. Genius
I like that ideal. The lofts are getting crazy.
I had Titanium Dunlop irons back last century when I started golfing. They were are starter set but they did have “flyers” built into them. I remember over-shooting greens by a long amount at times.
Was waiting for these to pop up on your channel ! Great to see you now getting access to all the top manufacturer clubs and being able to share honest reviews. 100k shortly. Congratulations to you and the team.
@@paulstaniford8622 hopefully soon Paul
Gorgeous looking irons, like you I am partial to a black out club
I couldn’t agree more with your general point about whether buyers need both a 4 and 5 iron. However, I’d also respectfully point out that you have indeed seen gaps that narrow before, if you’ve looked carefully at specs. PXG’s Gen7 XP 4 iron is 18 degrees and 5 iron is 20 degrees - 2 degree gap. Srixon’s ZX5 Mk II lofts crash together too - 22 degree 4 iron, 24 degree 5 iron.
This is a big pet peeve for me, and I think all companies should do a better job of avoiding this sort of bunching.
The only one I’d really credit is Ping. They maintain 3.5 degree gaps on the long ends of most of their sets, and have 3 degrees between their i530 4 and 5 irons. They also go from 1/2 inch differences in club lengths to 5/8 inch on the long end, to allow for more of a speed differential. PXG does something similar, but they still allow the lofts to bunch up too much.
Totally agree on the plastic Apex. It’s a new graphic and doesn’t seem to fit. The player who buys apex is trying to get away from the plastic inserts on all the Callaway game improvement irons
Love the attempts at innovation and i will never criticize as at some point the wheel will be re-invented so i applaud those (Manufacturers) to aim to progress
Love the irons, would love to use them myself great video yet again Andy
@@garethmorgan7474 cheers Gareth
interesting look at these new irons Andy.... many thanks for the info... agree with the top end of the bag you mentioned...
@@neilross6227 the gapping is very strange
Yeah, very interesting....
Great contact sound on every shot - was that the golfer hittng the centre of the face, or the forgiving club.
Thinking about getting fitted for the Apex Ai200 as my old apex 19s are looking a bit tired. I can't believe your not well over the 100,000 subscribers mate with the photography and content of your videos. Come on people hit the button
@@daveweedall4505 appreciated…..review coming on the Ai200 next week
I’m with you. The apex logo was a mistake to an otherwise good looking iron. Gonna test this against the pxg gen7 players iron. Which is softer compared to the two ?
How has the black finish held up? I’ve seen reviews where the back of the club gets scratched up but the face looks ok.
The Apex 19 and Apex 21 irons had the exact same lofts for the 4 & 5 irons, so expect you have seen those lofts before…..
I would have expected this from PXG. Just glad they make them left handed, even though I can’t afford them.
Still have original Callaway FT irons that had similar titanium in the head. Curious to see how these compare. My FT irons new at the time would be £2000 at today’s price.
That’s interesting, I assumed this was a new concept
@@TheAverageGolfer. Xxio also have a set using titanium. Price is the issue as they are around £2k. I thought you did a video on them a 2hike back.
@@Ulster2 Yes the main difference is the forged body which as I understand is unique to this model
I like the look of the irons but at £2000 pounds there is no way I'll be buying a set, plus how long will that finish last?
Nice to see you playing Kirkby Lonsdale which I suggested you do some months ago when you asked for suggestions for your off the beaten track series.
Does the technology / material allow for bending the 5 a little stronger? If so I’d just up to 5 and leave it there.
@@JimSchneck yep sure would
I might consider this club in a driving iron, but I don’t particularly like the way it looks. Still though, I wouldn’t put it passed me, because Callaway has always surprised me in the past. 🇨🇦💝🥰🤷♂️
I believe these irons were aimed directly for a golfer like me.
So I ordered a 7i today to try it out.
At first appearance they look like TM P790 🤔
2 bags of sand! Nope 🤯
Too bad we can’t tell about the spin. That was my main question. Ti faces on drivers are designed to reduce spin.
What was your question?
@@TheAverageGolfer Sorry - Without the simulator/turf spin data being reliable, will the hot titanium face generate enough spin to hold greens on longer shots? Thanks! Enjoy the videos!
I would say that based on course evidence there is no issue with spin 👍
It's not a full titanium face, just fused with steel.
Hence the name.
@@kevinconnolly754 it is a full titanium face, the fusion is with the forged body 👍
Whilst I completely agree with Andy about the 4i being a waste of space for us average swing speed players, I am not convinced that the 5i is even needed unless you really prefer irons over hybrids.
I also think the gapping between the 8i (149 yard carry) and 6i (175 yard carry) is almost at the limit of what is sensible - stick a 7i between the 2 and that is a 13 yard gap between each club. I really wouldn't want the gap to be any larger than that. I prefer a gap of 10-11 yards but then I prefer control over absolute distances
That's your choice though. Between 10 and 13 yards is fine as long as consistant
I might consider this club in a driving iron, but I don’t particularly like the way it looks. Still though, I wouldn’t put it passed me, because Callaway has always surprised me in the past. 🇨🇦💝🥰🤷♂️