Disco Elysium - In-depth Character Build & Skills Guide
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- Disco Elysium is my favourite game of 2019 - in this video I''m going to discuss the 24 skills in detail, giving spoiler-free examples of how they work in-game.
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I think one of the coolest parts of this game is it really shows inner thoughts of the character. The fact that your inner voices are all trying to warn you about the tie, or how sometimes your various 'stats' will argue with each other about the best course of action.
And I didn't listen... I almost died.
Volition is your friend
@@kangsate3459 ELECTROCHEMISTRY [Medium: SUCCESS] - Volition is a boring pussy. You should get yourself a fucking drink and become the party beast you are supposed to be
Yeah, I thought having the physical skills lower would be ok, then I died trying to get my tie down from a ceiling fan, so who knows what to think...
That one skill check seems more than the exception rather than the rule tbf.
norespawns: absolutely. I was really just making a joke about how mad this game is. I love it too!
Great walkthrough of the skills, as well, mate. Have a good’un!
Same thing happened to me with my first character haha.
Didn't save so I had to start an entirely new game.
I lost all my morale when I failed to jump and get my jacket, not from falling, but from being a fat bastard. Started again.
I died from a heart attack when i looked in my mirror.
GOTY 20/10
JUST STOP THE FAN FOR GOD SAKE BRO
I started my game blind drunk so can’t remember the things I picked, starting type and signature trait. I’m literally playing the game in the same mindset as your man. What’s the plot again? Who am I? What did I pick? 😩
Dude, this is my exact situation right now.... I had to watch a few vids to understand what I was doing. But I guess that's the fun part, just playing your way, without help
Same here. When i go RPG gaming,, I always go *all in* 😁
Thank god i'm not alone LMAO
😮why didn't i thought off that...
You need to get your shit together
one thing I am finding I love about the attribute system is that it seems if your ACTUAL personality is similar to your build, you will tend to feel quite natural and enticed by the gameplay that results. The raw organization of the attributes, the writing and dialogue trees, and the art style really seem to help this happen organically quite a lot.
its really true, even skillchecks that i needed to pass to beat the game, i kept failing because that's just not me i guess. Its like the game knows.
Makes sense, my signature skill is encyclopedia even irl and my suggestion and authority and other psychic traits are almost nonexistant even irl so my detective basically felt like me if i were an alcoholic.
I assure you I *do not* have a 6 point INT build I just keep adding points in logic hoping it would explain the complex parts for me LOL
I guess I'm not at least average physically because my body doesn't heavily crave alcohol and cigs lmao (I'm not using either of those at all). I'm treating it more like its own character with attributes similar to mine, but different skills.
The best way to describe Volition is that it's your guardian angel.
It looks out for you and has the most common sense out of all the voices.
For the most part!
An analogy I often think of for Volition and Electrochemistry is that Volition argues what you need, Electrochemistry argues what you want
@@land_distant like the Voilition said: "This guy is the most compromised"
@@Rainbow-Rare semen retention society.
Somehow my "Shivers" trait is through the roof. I be feeling shit randomely that goes on for tens of minutes
One thing I learned is that Perception effects the highlighted items from using the TAB key.
From what I've seen it also works with drama and empathy to catch people hiding information and not just lying. Saved my ass a couple times
Are you serious?
The game is that well detailed and I have not even noticed(Well maybe beacuse I played with motoricts of 2 but stil... )!
@@knightsotl796 You have to play multiple times with different "loadouts" in order to find these differences. The stuff pops in and out so naturally that you don't even know whether or not it always happens or because some random behind the scenes skill check passed. Yes there are thousands of back end skill checks you dont see.
Yeah, items that have a yellow outline depend on your perception (or some other motorics skill, potentially?). The first example is the tape reel in your room.
It felt so cool when I found that out, I was raising it for a specific check and noticed more items while my guy was on speed. (I had the thought perk that gave +1 motorics from speed)
One of the best (most unique) things about this attribute system and the game it supports is that it actually respects and accounts for the way people think, rationalize, draw conclusions and solve problems. No other game I've played (TTRPG or CRPG) has put this much attention into getting social/intelligence characters right. It's not just "make an Intelligence check to solve the puzzle that's been here for a hundred years but no one else can figure out" or "roll Charisma to charm the pants off this NPC." These stats don't just exist because they're pre-reqs for a class or to boil down non-physical actions to a simple die roll. These concepts for handling internal dialogue, mental states and social interaction should (read: should) revolutionize the way we think about Mentals and Socials in all RPGs. They probably won't.... We'll still use INTs and Socials as dump stats play characters as if they have the same mentals and socials as the player. We'll still treat Intelligence as if it's Strength, except that instead of a hammer wielded in your hand, INT is a hammer wielded in your mind. And we'll still treat Charisma like it's a rating on a Hot or Not list.
Anyway: rant /off.
It's why I liked Low Int in Fallout 1 and 2
You would genuinely have to bumble and stumble into plot points to get anything done.
But yeah, Disco Elysium is 900% a game to study for writing in CRPGs
Savoire Faire seems to be the ability to successfully steal shit without being noticed and generally being a smooth criminal/sneak. There are some thing I think that in relation to doing something without a ruckus. Slick.
I ran around for the first half of the game with no shirt on, just the blazer
Old comment, but whatever, there's a thought that makes you better with tools if your shirtless.
If I played this game, it'd be my dream to play a Columbo type character!
Y'know, your unassuming type who walks around with his hands in his pockets, asking dumb questions.
26:14
I immediately thought: damn, that fan and light bulb are gonna kill this guy.
All in all I enjoyed this game, but half the time I swear I didn't know what the fuck was going on or what was actually been said to me.
Thank you so much for keeping the video spoiler-free! I hope you’ll consider putting together another Disco Elysium video once The Final Cut releases this month.
100% the plan!
@@norespawns Still hope you’ll consider creating a new video, especially once things get patched up (1.3, 1.4, 1.7 etc,.)
Completely meant to pin this comment years ago: Yeah, I'm aware my pronounciation of certain skills is awful. I was sleepy and my mouth sometimes works faster than my brain. Funnily enough, given that most of my butchering was to the French words: I'm actually moving to France soon and my French prounciation is actually not bad now. Got there eventually.
I would describe Shivers as being more similar to Encyclopedia. I saw someone on another video describing the difference as the knowledge of a librarian/historian and the knowledge of a city cab driver.
But it's not, because it describes things you are sensing right now. It's like a spider sense.
Jacob Geller made me buy this game too. This game is great
Booksmart vs streetsmart
@@Sheyvanrocksmore like you are just straight up psychic
@@Sheyvanrocksnot really,it can litteraly see things that are dozens of miles away
This game took over the last week of my life, I loved it ! Will you be doing a playthrough maybe ? It's always interesting seeing how other ppl rp the main character
RIP I hope you enjoyed the last week of your life.
@@ShroomPapa 😂
that double 6 roll was so good! :D
'Esprit de Corps' is pronounced
es-PREE day CORE
In a nutshell it refers to organization pride; brotherhood, if you will.
He mispronounced a bunch of things including INLAND like 10 times. INLAND!!! IN-LAND. Like, dude do you know how to say LAND??
Seems fitting, considering what it tells you just from meeting Kim.
It's not pronounced 'day'. 'De' is fine.
It’s pronounced grand pricks. Coop Dee gracy.
Gyro not hero.
Thanks for the great rundown. I kind of liked the neck tie quirk so copied some things from your build. My first time so I am just going in blind and winging it. I started in and somehow 3 hours passed without me knowing. Really digging it so far! Like a point and click with way more.
Lol all the English speakers having a hell of a time with the French words lol, so many streamers. "Espirit de corps". Thank you for the breakdown though, I just finished a playthrough myself and it's great to get a little more detail on how the skills interact with each other. A real masterpiece of a game.
"SÄWWOR FARE!" - Haha, yeah - It's kinda cringe. xD
@@Sheyvanrockscringe is when people from one country cant speak like people from another
Thank you, this is genuinely the video i exactly needed. My partner really recommends this game but i genuinely feel way too stupid to understand what to do and what to pick with my character so i get stuck with picking what i want. I was told to go with what feels good to me but i felt like i don’t know what go with since i have no experience with the game already. This video helps explain everything i wanted to know so i could get into the game easier. Thank you, and i really appreciate the beginning demonstration and examples you gave when going through the skills to give me a better idea of what i want.
Shivers is genuinely the coolest one. Hell even the description is awesome. “If you cannot hear the city, how can you save it?”
"Espirit de corpse"
Actually it's pronounced "ess-PEE-REE de CORE"
Wait, fuck, I just got that you were making a joke, I'm sorry. Gah, man
Christopher Simons Yes, I’m french so I found his pronunciation funny.
@@TyroneCLove Pffa ha! Ah, that makes sense! I'm from California, learning French, so I was excited to share! That's awesome man! Didn't expect to meet a French person today - the world is a cool place!
Christopher Simons It id indeed. Good luck on the studies.
Hardly the only thing he couldn't pronounce. There was another French word he butchered, and then he couldn't say INLAND correctly! Like wth, it's IN-LAND!
Really useful video, and thanks for uploading, but that was driving me crazy.
The fully voiced dialogues in The Final Cut make a huge difference! Watching a gameplay from the first release looks too silent. I'm so glad they managed to make this upgrade. And the voice acting quality is amazing! The Horrific Necktie's voice is one of my favorites, and I'll have a high Inland Empire just to hear it more.
About to play this for the first time tomorrow, cant wait
I remember my first playthrough spin kicking measurehead in the face because of physical instrument. Based skill really
My playthrough Measurehead broke my arm and the pain gave me heart attack and I died lol
Espirit de Corps sounds like "Eh spree de Core"
i actually recommend people play 2 hours with two extreme builds super smart weak muscles, or super strong but dumbass, just too feel how the game flows for you, and then you restart knowing what you want to improve
i remember that my first playthrought that lasted 3 hours, was about me having full empathy for everyone until i realised that some people deserve these hands , and started to play in a more strong build, and having so much more fun right now
Excellent video! Just one small critique: "esprit de corps" is pronounced as "es-pree day core" and "savoir faire" is pronounced as "savv-wah fair"...
Franche
First time I played it , I started running away from bartender and bumped into wheelchair lady and died. Super cool game
Woah, one bar of HP? Woof
I finally got this game! Such a blast started with the preset builds and went with the high Intellect ''Sherlock'' build, got a little ways switched to the ''action cop'' preset failed a bunch of stuff but clobbered Measurehead (+1 morale) and than decided to make my own build and went high Logic, Perception and some Empathy. I figured with those stats I could be like Poirot (LOL at the same time 1 health, 2 moral, Poirot wasn't very physical) ;p
This was very helpful. Thanks. I wish I would have watched this before I started. I chose the Psyche preset, because it looked the most unique.
Is it even possible to solve the case without perception? Seems like one of those "must have" stats
The great part about the Disco Elysium and its 24 skills is that it's probably the coolest and longest personality test you'll ever take.
I barely touched perception and the game played throughout just fine. Isn't it neat?
@@ZackTheGiant I like that it's possible to dump certain stats but it forced me to do things in a roundabout way. I'm in the middle of a 4/6/1/1 build and putting points into conceptualization and inland empire for the commentary extra xp. Deep down I feel like I get stuck doing things out of order or taking too long on plot objectives
@@ZackTheGiant Should I be afraid that I became the sorriest centrist art cop who nevertheless goes "I am the law" like Dredd and can see beyond the veil with frightening ease?
@@LordSerion So I wasn't the only one!
@@LordSerion should I be afraid that i became the superstar beacon of communism, but also dumb as shit weak-ish authority cop who's always saying "I AM THE LAW" and some communist shit right after. And has an ACTUAL art degree...
Really appreciated this vid. I’ve just started out and this has helped quite a bit. Thanks!!!!
I’m glad the PS4 version has voice over.
36:28 check out how the icon changes on the bottom left
36:42
Great Vid. Very helpful thank you. First playthrough today.
Same! Started last night. Great video!!
@@skipiago Hi. It's great but seriously considering waiting till the final cut is out due to the fact that it will be fully voiced.
Dang I bought it on sale on steam.
@@skipiago Don't worry. The update is free for owners of the game when the update comes out in march. I bought it in the sale also.
I started as the brainiac with high Encyclopedia. I died because I sat in an uncomfortable chair which was quite fun. I realized I had to start over which bummed me out a bit.
But then I started a new character which is dumb as rocks but has high mental and physical strength.
And suddenly in a conversation my necktie starts talking to me, and I can't help but smiling at how stupid it is.
I wanted to refund the game but fortunately I had played more than 2 hours. And now I am just mesmerized and want to explore all the stupid shit.
To me it helped by choosing a dumb answer because my character is dumb. It makes it more fun imo.
New sub based on this vid. Great stuff. I'm on my first ever playthrough and 14 hours in. Love the analogy of Espirit de Corps as a cop drama and Half Light as being in danger. Great stuff. Can't wait to do my second playthrough. Already mapping my character out. Want stats in detective, outthinking, empathy, suggestions, persuading.
I imagine few players go for the physical achetype but somehow I imagine it to be quite good if you use drugs alot to boost the low level stats when needed.
You must try maxing out Electro chemistry and Half Light.
Half light is irrational terrified lizard brain who wants you to literally murder cuno.
@@benjaminjenkins2384 Half Light wants to teach Cuno what "shit's coming up strong" really means
Thanks! This was really helpful!
I was looking for this sort of breakdown because its hard to know how useful certain skills are
Right click the mouse to highlight items.
I’ve just got this on Switch, I’m worried I’m to thick to play it.😂 Can anyone point me in the direction of a video on how skill checks work. I get that rolling two 1s is a guaranteed fail and 2 6s
is a guaranteed success, but what it I roll a 3 and a 4, how does it work in relation to the skill?? Help!!!
You've probably played already, but it shows you a percentage chance of success. The easiest example is 50%. If you roll a 7-12, you succeed. If you roll a 1-6, you fail. The higher the percentage of success you have the larger the range of dice roll outcomes for a successful check. There are also skill checks constantly being done in the background that will influence what kind of opportunities will be presented to you.
I wanted to know everything about the game world on my first playthrough, so I focused entirely on Encyclopedia until I maxed it out
just installed this game the other day. very useful video. thanks.
what's an in laid empire
29:27 I started with psyche premade and didn't get this XD
36:31 IT'S A MIRACLE! And spoilers, but IT'S A MIRACLE!
51:51 ... I can't believe that in my attempt to be good and not threaten an honest shopkeep I had to sell those hubcaps... I did NOT play well, in contrast to when I played an unmentionable game with similar permanent choices
Anyone else save-scumming like a son of a bitch to pass checks or just me?
Nah i aint saved yet !
HAAAARD COOOORE
I did some random thing when I started to play and I ended up with a 1 4 6 1, I didnt even remember that I had selected things when I got back into it a week later, Im thinking theres way too many points into physical. I made it to the bar/lounge area but the dude seems really dumb, he doesnt even know if he is a real detective or not. I dunno if Im screwed and shpuld just start over or just continue just to see what happens. Good news is, I didnt die from the cieling fan, stared into the mirror for a long time, got all dressed, tried to mack on the girl outside smoking but she rejected me lol
great video super helpful
So you suggest a 4-6-1-1 build. Hm. I still don't really know which build to choose.
4-4-2-2 is good. Most of the passive chenks require 4 points in skill, with 4-4-2-2 you can up red and yellow categories to 4 if you want and everything else is already at 4. And the first 2 categories are kinda a more important and cop-y skills
I wouldn't say any skill is good to have. Failing a check can be more interesting than succeeding. I would choose skills based off of the type of cop you want to roleplay.
The necktie isn’t super worth it, to be honest. It don’t talk very often, and it’s very one note. It’s kinda redundant with electrochemistry, since it basically only encourages you to do drugs.
Get ready for a bunch new views because of the final cut!
I'm here cuz' of that. One of the best games ever! A masterpiece! :)
Which thoughts do you think compete against each other?
Volition and electrochemistry are basically archnemesis lmao. Physical instrument doesnt care about rhetoric and doesn't want to do savoir faire fancy ballerina bullshit
I did a
I: 3/ P: 3/F: 2/M: 4
Seems like only the Brits make let's plays anymore amh
Cheers, if you include an option to ask for money you'd sound just like the in-game dialogue.
Ok I'm still not sure how to play this game. What's the deal with all the possible questions you can ask? Do you just have to go through the list and click on everyone of them?
click on the ones you WANT to ask, ignore the ones you don't. because there will be consequences for saying the wrong things at times.
@@yurifairy2969 I've just finished the game, do people usually play it more than once? from the start? I don't think I can handle going through all the clicking and the slow moving of the characters again.
Best skill: 14:43
Suggestion huh? Been thinking about taking it.
Do you even lift bro?
2’s suck and fail everything if it’s not 3+ make it 1
Psyche is pronounced [SY] + [KEE]. Just can't let you go through life without that knowledge :) Maybe you know this by now but in case you don't and still read comments...
the way you're saying it in this video is more the SIKE! version as in "just kidding".
The whole video was great fun and informative but I especially liked the part of the end where you said I heard that when your intelligence is basically zero that you're really dumb and can't understand things and I just thought it was really funny that you were explaining how intelligence works dad if it's basically zero you're dumb and don't understand things and I thought it was hilarious that in real life if the person listen to their intelligence level is basically a zero then they're unlikely to comprehend your explanation or even be able to press play on the video etc. Intelligence level noll yeah baby all natural.
I don't like to brag but my intelligence level is like way up there at least four twos and threes you know. Okay well maybe it's not for Jews and threes maybe it's just one two or three OOOOOOR it could be like 2+3 making it a more then FOUR! COME ON MAN WHERE IS YOUR your empathy is there a sea level one do you have no empathy for the poor poor intelligence level unknown soul? That's me btw
Also sorry if any of that was kind of like confusing I'm using voice to text and my phone decided to call you Dad for some reason..... So hey Dad how you been these past 32 years (devolves into uncontrollable sobbing)
I like the part about the Jews
I thought you were havin a stroke my dude
Not on PS4
In March, and I’m rebuying it!
Your video's are helpful but I had to give a dislike due to ads
get adblock then
"Are you like a crazy person?"
3-4-2-3.
u can't use it as a password anymore 😅
I am just blown away by the artwork for the different skills
They seem to be influenced by the style of Francis Bacon (20th century painter, NOT 16th/17th century philosopher). If you don't know him, give him a try, they seem strongly influenced by his paintings.
@@Lark1610 Good eye
@@Lark1610 I knew it looked familiar!
@@Lark1610CONCEPTUALIZATION [Medium: Success]
I kicked a trashcan and died.
YOUR BODY BETRAYS YOUR DEGENARACY!
I turned on a light bulb and died
5:39
Perception, easy: Through the window, you hear the sound of an ambulance passing by, announcing another tragedy have happened somewhere in the blocs.
Shivers: the city is screaming in pain.
"ambulance going by my flat, appropriate for the kind of game we are playing"
Empathy: how heartless the game of life can be.
-1 morale
Smokes an astra
Apocalypses cop with high electrochemistry and half light is one of the funniest shit, Tequila Sunset baby.
It's so weird hearing the old voice actors, Garte comes off TOTALLY different in the director's cut. Also I love having all my interior thoughts talking to me.
Everybody likes Cuno and his Voice acting (me included). But I think the first voice is more fitting for him, because it's strident and makes him harder to be liked.
So who is here after the final cut release?
Just waiting for the latest PS4 1.4 / 1.5 patch releases, then I’ll finally start my first play through!
I'm so glad they added voices overs for the thoughts in final cut
Correction: Well, hopefully start my first play through with PS4 patch 1.3 or even 1.5 if it’s worth the extra wait; I genuinely think it’s worth waiting for.
I describe Electrochemistry as "your brain wanting debauchery at its most absolute."
Not necessarily debauchery, but literally any electrochemical thrills. Drugs work for that, but it loves sex and booze too because it craves satisfaction and fulfillment of desire
Time stamps:
3:09 Logic
3:45 Encyclopedia
5:00 Rhetoric
6:05 Drama
6:50 Conceptualization
7:33 Visual Calculus
9:01 Volition
9:59 Inland Empire
10:45 Empathy
11:29 Authority
12:27 Esprit de corps
13:36 Suggestion
15:49 Endurance
16:42 Pain Threshold
17:10 Physical instrument
18:02 Electrochemistry
19:22 Shivers
20:16 Half light
21:25 Hand/eye coordination
22:09 Perception
23:07 Reaction speed
23:54 Savoir faire
24:46 Interfacing
25:29 Composure
Played a Rust Cohle True Detective build with high Inland Empire and high Electrochemistry
Thanks for taking the time to go through all the different skills. Great video!
I just started my first real playthrough of this game, been through the opening at least a few times. But this time I went with high intellect and physique and boy is it already weird and fun compared to the other builds. The main character is pulled in so many directions by doing those two skills that it makes it so much more fun then I would have expected.
If anything could convince me to play a game, taking your pants off to have a higher chance to steal back your tie almost did it for me.
there are more opportunities to take your pants off, like doing stunts. and a lot of memorable moments from successful and failed checks that are animated. there are even easter eggs, like suble fourth wall breaks, references and idle animation
Nothing beats Encyclopedia + Wompty Dompty build. Totally OP.
I love this game for making that sentence make sense
6:00
Electro-chemistry is THE MOST fun. Even if you aren't taking any drugs, it's still fun to read her/his lines.
And it suggests to touch penis of the hanged man.
Also shivers are like encyclopedia. They give you a lot of lore and stuff, but not much of dialogue options or anything else. Cool if you really want to dive into thr backstory, actual story etc. Esprit the corps gives lore too, but it actually does something in dialogues, in particular it can say that you should give a word to Kim, and he will really carry you in some instances
I know this is an old post, but I appreciate you taking the time to produce a breakdown. I just started playing this on PC. It's such a cleverly bizarre game that I wondered if I was doing something wrong, yet it branches off into so many directions that there's really no such thing as a "wrong way" of playing. Thanks!
Good video. I see why they say make a build for Row 1 and Row 4 because that is what I want based on this guide video. The drama, concept, visual calculus, and many of the Row 4 skills. So 4, 2, 2, 4
Just got into this game and was immediately drawn to rows 1 and 4. I see a lot of people saying 1/2 are the best; good to see someone else thought like me (assuming the run went well I guess, haha).
My cop is all bout them drugs, just started its awesome. I honestly didn't think I'd like this game but about an hour in, I've become such a degenerate of a detective and hear voices. IM CRAZY!@!@
Oh man, I rolled Red Skills and man Electrochemistry will not shut up about doing stuff, he must be going NUTS with you!
@@Guruc13 hahah yeah but thays the fun in it, seeing crazy dialogue
@@hioxd Hell yeah dude!
I picked the purple build and I'm having a blast with Inland Empire + Shivers basically narrating the game for me in a really descriptive way.
Shivers is my favorite skill so far but I also like Empathy and Esprit de Corps for tuning into people's behaviour. Also the random comments from Authority, Electrochemistry and Half-Light crack me up a lot.
Meanwhile the cyan skills keep bullying me for failing checks! 😢
Love from a Vaush and Bricky Fan!
I'm surprised by the lack of Motorics Archetype.
Something like 2 INT, 4 PSY, 1 FYS, 5 MOT
I mean, you won't be punching Measurehead in the face any time soon, and you should be careful around that Ceiling Fan, but other than that.
@@charleskulvet4911 oh my god you're right and his interfacing is high too bc he's a car nerd. and his hand-eye coordination from pinball... and his savoir faire because as harry says, he's unbelievably cool
I love the depth and detail in this video and I am absolutely taking it as a reference for writing fanfic
Authority isn't just for establishing your own authority, it's also the skill that points out power dynamics and shows you what imbalances you can take advantage of. I like to think of it as the psyche equivalent of composure.
I play my guy based on my actual life or at least trying to iunno how it will play it it takes skills from each category
Me: "Ok I hear you. You don't like authority..
Maybe because you didn't have a Father I'm the home as child? "
You: 75% change Authority roll.
You: *dice roll* [Authority] Easy-Failed] : "uhmmm, nah man it's just that,"
>>>>>damage -1 Healthdamage -2 Morale
Making a viable build is much better than trying to make a "fun" build, remember my words
Encyclopedia has Contact Mike wdym its not fun??? 6:05
I maxed out I land empire and also shivers
Introspection and *extrospection*
@@helioobianchi I never saw it that way… now I have a new way of looking at myself. Omg lol.
Max authority.
Great guide. But the most important question still stands? Can you beat Disco Elysium with only 1 point in all of your skills and attributes?