You left out one of the biggest secrets in the entire game: If you manage to fail the Shivers roll to figure out where Ruby is hiding the second time around, despite all the bonuses from doing the sidequests, you unlock an entirely new questline involving calling the gearhead radio station Kim is a fan of. Probably the least seen secret in the entire game despite how involved the quest is.
@@dduuddeechil It took me so long to find it that I was playing Jamais Vu when it finally happened... so I assumed it was part of that update, though it may not have been.
In the communist quest, while talking to Cindy about communism, if you specifically pick the dialogue option about sending people to the "meat grinder", with high enough Espirit de Corps, you get a lengthy flash-sideways scene of Mack Torson and Chester McClaine talking about microwaving sausage in the precinct break room and the risks of using a bottle of mustard they took from a hobo
There is a very interesting moment, if you go with cuno to the island and had previously done the moralist questline. There you notice (dont remember which skill) that something "is wrong" because Kim doesnt say his line which goes like "Its cold outside". You hear him saying this in the moralist questline at the time of the disturbances caused by the pale which foreshadowed the future. A very nice detail which again shows how precise the devs worked on this game.
The fact they accounted for players who do most of the moralist quest and don’t follow it through is one of my favourite things about this game, there are quite a few cool things which rely on you leaning towards moralist, including the famous “DETECTIVE. ARRIVING. ON THE SCENE”
On my first playthrough, I ended up deducing during the autopsy that the bullet was coming from far, far away, probably off the mainland. I don't know if it was intentional (knowing them, it probably was), but the wound makes sense! When you inspect the bullet, it describes how it's military grade, not soft-shell. And that struck me as super odd, considering there wasn't an exit wound for such a powerful bullet- it had been stopped by the inner skull. So it couldn't have been close-range, or even mid-range, because a jacketed bullet would have obliterated the head. Couldn't have been an altered, gentler gun or even sling-shot, because there wouldn't be enough force to have the bullet fracture like it did. How is it here then? Eureka, it must have been shot at such a long distance that the wind slowed its velocity! I can't describe how great it felt when B"' ended up being right :D
While I'm not certain, I bet this is one of Evrart's spies that he had keeping tabs on Harry and Joyce over the course of the week we play. They must have been caught off-guard by the fact that Harry managed to notice them, but upon realizing their cover wasn't completely blown, decided to mess with him instead, hence the "eyes everywhere" line and how much they know about Harry already.
The "using the motor carriage" dialogue option is linked to succeeding the passive Savoir Faire skill check right before. You need at least 4 Savoir Faire to get that. Very cool video btw!
builds in this game can be so distinct that something that was integral to my run and experience could be a secret to someone else thats what keeps me doing re runs of this game
That visual calculus secret was actually insane. I'm too far baked to understand it really but its insane how much that skill was working overtime. I've never built Harry invested in Visual Calculus but what a damn cool skill
According to Fayde conversation viewer the game checks for the Variable "yard.hanged_savoir_climb_the_tree" = true. This variable is set when the game says "Savoir Faire: An acrobatic manoeuvre would solve this situation. Nothing can go wrong with a good *manoeuvre* " . Which requires 4 points in Savoir Faire to prompt.
the misterious pair of eyes is titus isnt it? it sounded like the same voice, lines were similar to stuff titus would say, it would makes sense considering the eyes would be keeping an eye out on the merc disguised as a scab, it also connects with how titus only appears after day 1 and the misterious pair of eyes only can be seen on day 1
It’s the same VA but I don’t think it’s necessarily meant to be Titus. The 9 threshold stat checks seem to be little rewards for players who have gone that deep on one stat. This one to me is a nod that everyone seems to have eyes on the harbor and your perception is so high you can actually see and interact with the conceptual “eyes”
As funny as that is, I can't imagine Titus being all sneaky and weird. Some other Union member.. or Ruud? He swore in that skavenesque speak like Ruud. "Fuckshit." "Pigfuck."
I was quite annoyed by succeeding at the visual calculus check before meeting Ruby and not being able to investigate the islet after checking points B' and B''.
I tried to follow a good 100% walkthrough on steam for this gem, but I kept experiencing text box freezes that soft locked the game, glad I get to see this content.
@@gimpscam9976 I tried to look up how to fix it, I cant even get past talking to measurehead without the game freezing after he walks off screen, and I cant talk to the guy on the balcony. Seems like it was some update that caused the glitch, but it doesn't look like it'll be fixed.
I'm surprised how many of those hidden secrets i encountered on my own first playthrough going in blind. all except the eyes and seagulls. guess my detecting was decent.
Maybe I'm late with this, seen it recently with one player who had a terrible luck with Visual Calculus and didn't manage to get the trajectory in Klaasje's bedroom until the tribunal. And then she failed that skillcheck again (with the thread left by Klaasje) which led to a funny moment when Visual Calculus said something like: - screw it, no time for this anymore, you passed 😂 (obviously because without this check you wouldn't know you need to go to the island and softlock yourself). I'm not sure if that's really a secret but still it's funny that even the game becomes tired of failed checks and goes like: You know, f*** it, that's too much even for me 😂
Visual Calculus finally paying off in my playthrough, after a full game of fucking up basically every single Physique/Motorics skillcheck (and missing both the gun and the necktie-bomb), was so powerful. Harry in my game was basically a bumbling (albeit clever! and charming!) fuckup until it finally came time to solve the case (and then the Phasmid scene played out perfectly and I only cried a little bit).
It's kinda funny that despite how precise the writing in this game is, they fudge the orientation of Klaasje's rooftop balcony. If south is straight down her balcony is clearly facing South West with the location B''' bullet trajectory being South West, but the actual location of B''' on the map is North West - you can even see it in the overlay. This confused me at first and had me trying to go further South West that was possible.
It seems the snipersnest was moved? Once I found the spot I checked a few maps and the trajectory seemed to be pretty much perpendicular to the rooftop window. Making it impossible to hit even a few cm inside. I always found it a bit of a plot hole since the shot would have been impossible. But the graphic at 27.30 seems to put the nest on the main bunker. That indeed seems to, just barely, work.
Hmm possibly, it’s always a bit weird trying to line this kind of thing up when using a 2D map for a 3D place, and even more difficult when all you have is an artists impression. I always had the shot as just between the graffiti wall and the yard, very narrow but just about doable.
About the island location in main menu etc. If you read dialogs from multiple characters carefully enough, a lot of them literally say or compare something to that island or any other similar island ruins. Like for example when Joyce Messier randomly spreads her hands, asks what does she look like right now and one of the options to answer is something along the lines "like those island ruins that look like a rotten tooth". Also if you have high enough shivers and inland empire, they always show you insulindian phasmid or this old man (deserter) doing something.
Yeah there are lots of hints directing you to the answer but when you play the first time they’re not always so obvious, when you go back for another run you end up slapping your forehead the whole time 😂
I actually deduced the trajectories in Klaasje's room before that on my first playthrough. I was playing a Harry with terrible motorics and strength but high psyche and intellect. Not sure if the ballistics reconstruction itself was the secret, but I also did find the shooter's spot
my base stats are 1 INT 5 PSY 4 PHS and 2 MOT with +1 Skill point in each conceptualization, visual calculus, inland empire, perception and savoir faire with bonus points from the starting clothes and garden gloves. Thoughts I've internalized so far are the volumetric shit compressor, and inexplicable feminist agenda and lonesome way home still in progress. I also don't have my ledger (but did take the clothes out of the trash) and don't have my badge reported, but did every option while at the kineema related to asking kim about his car, as well as every option during the examination of the body except for trying to pull the boots off. Also failed the check for the hole in the fence I did retry it twice from the last save I had right before and didn't get the option again tho, so maybe it's a chance thing?
I also can't remember what build (or combo of prior thoughts and activities?) gets you the Kim's car suggestion, but I've had it a few times. High conceptualization, maybe?
Ive gotten the dialogue about using kims car to cut the rope before in a normal playthrough. My highest stat was 5 in all motorics, with hand eye coordination as the special skill. I have no idea what causes that line to come up
Personally I like the idea of them being Titus, sounds like him, only available on day one, so it adds up. I also accept theories suggesting it’s not, though, there’s not a whole lot of reason for it to be him.
@@The41stPrecinct Yeah , Titus would make sense. The other theory I heard that would make sense is Ruude, because that guy has a similar shushed voice , and seems to be really sneaky, since no one figured out he even existed before the tribunal.
@@Somajsibere My argument against the Ruud theory is why is he behind the harbour gates, can only be a union man and Evrart does instruct the hardies to lay low. Feel like I could do a whole video just on this 😂
It sounds like Titus but since various VA do several voices, that doesn't mean it's officially him. It could be just an other dock worker, or, allow me to speculate wildely, the "missing" Hardie Boy. What if Titus happens to have a (twin) brother too? But it's most likely just "a dock worker" , possibly Titus if he likes sneaking out whenever Harry goes outside...
Great video, but you missed a few details. I have over 1300h of playtime, and I just started a new run to refresh my memory about a few blind spots that are very hard to trigger in the game. I'd love to chat. How can I contact you?
It reveals the view from the main menu was the view of the deserter the whole time, sorry this was my first "Secrets" video and I should've explained it better
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You left out one of the biggest secrets in the entire game: If you manage to fail the Shivers roll to figure out where Ruby is hiding the second time around, despite all the bonuses from doing the sidequests, you unlock an entirely new questline involving calling the gearhead radio station Kim is a fan of. Probably the least seen secret in the entire game despite how involved the quest is.
There’ll be plenty more videos like this that cover the plethora of other secrets, including this one 👍
Did you get the sneakers for him? I did, but he refused to wear them (might not have had enough authority?) They looked great with my outfit, though.
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@@dduuddeechil It took me so long to find it that I was playing Jamais Vu when it finally happened... so I assumed it was part of that update, though it may not have been.
@@GayleenFroese I never properly played until the Final Cut, despite my 5 playthroughs you beat me to something I didn't I know existed!
In the communist quest, while talking to Cindy about communism, if you specifically pick the dialogue option about sending people to the "meat grinder", with high enough Espirit de Corps, you get a lengthy flash-sideways scene of Mack Torson and Chester McClaine talking about microwaving sausage in the precinct break room and the risks of using a bottle of mustard they took from a hobo
There is a very interesting moment, if you go with cuno to the island and had previously done the moralist questline. There you notice (dont remember which skill) that something "is wrong" because Kim doesnt say his line which goes like "Its cold outside". You hear him saying this in the moralist questline at the time of the disturbances caused by the pale which foreshadowed the future. A very nice detail which again shows how precise the devs worked on this game.
The fact they accounted for players who do most of the moralist quest and don’t follow it through is one of my favourite things about this game, there are quite a few cool things which rely on you leaning towards moralist, including the famous “DETECTIVE. ARRIVING. ON THE SCENE”
Someone on my street got into an actual fight with a seagull yesterday and I thought of Harry.
On my first playthrough, I ended up deducing during the autopsy that the bullet was coming from far, far away, probably off the mainland. I don't know if it was intentional (knowing them, it probably was), but the wound makes sense!
When you inspect the bullet, it describes how it's military grade, not soft-shell. And that struck me as super odd, considering there wasn't an exit wound for such a powerful bullet- it had been stopped by the inner skull.
So it couldn't have been close-range, or even mid-range, because a jacketed bullet would have obliterated the head. Couldn't have been an altered, gentler gun or even sling-shot, because there wouldn't be enough force to have the bullet fracture like it did. How is it here then? Eureka, it must have been shot at such a long distance that the wind slowed its velocity!
I can't describe how great it felt when B"' ended up being right :D
You were already a super cop and didn’t even know it! 😁
I don’t think their guns work quite like our modern ones as evidenced by when you fire kims
Never realized the visual calculus one was rare, I almost always get that one!
The mysterious pair of eyes was so cool! I love how this game still surprises me
it kinda sounds like titus
It’s the same VA as the reptilian voice.
@@naman334thought the same thing
Like, definitely his intonations, especially when he speeds up
While I'm not certain, I bet this is one of Evrart's spies that he had keeping tabs on Harry and Joyce over the course of the week we play. They must have been caught off-guard by the fact that Harry managed to notice them, but upon realizing their cover wasn't completely blown, decided to mess with him instead, hence the "eyes everywhere" line and how much they know about Harry already.
It's the hanged man. The blue eyes, the voice, the vocabulary. You need 9 perception to see it because it isn't there
The "using the motor carriage" dialogue option is linked to succeeding the passive Savoir Faire skill check right before. You need at least 4 Savoir Faire to get that.
Very cool video btw!
Ohhh this is great info, thank you!
builds in this game can be so distinct that something that was integral to my run and experience could be a secret to someone else
thats what keeps me doing re runs of this game
That visual calculus secret was actually insane. I'm too far baked to understand it really but its insane how much that skill was working overtime. I've never built Harry invested in Visual Calculus but what a damn cool skill
It really brings out the detective in Harry. It was badass to watch it play out even if I didn't understand it
I remember hearing there was a rare chance to visualize the ferris wheel on the boardwalk where Billie's husband can be found?
You sure can…
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I got that one on my first playthrough because I used cheats, I didn't know it was rare.
I got it by accident on my current playthrough. I didnt expect it to be rare
14:20 I had that on my playthrough. I didn't realise it was so rare.
I might still have the saves; I could take a look at how I got it.
An educated guess: Interfacing 4+ and asking Kim about his car for this to show up.
According to Fayde conversation viewer the game checks for the Variable "yard.hanged_savoir_climb_the_tree" = true. This variable is set when the game says "Savoir Faire: An acrobatic manoeuvre would solve this situation. Nothing can go wrong with a good *manoeuvre* " . Which requires 4 points in Savoir Faire to prompt.
the misterious pair of eyes is titus isnt it? it sounded like the same voice, lines were similar to stuff titus would say, it would makes sense considering the eyes would be keeping an eye out on the merc disguised as a scab, it also connects with how titus only appears after day 1 and the misterious pair of eyes only can be seen on day 1
Yep I think that’s 100% correct too
It’s the same VA but I don’t think it’s necessarily meant to be Titus. The 9 threshold stat checks seem to be little rewards for players who have gone that deep on one stat. This one to me is a nod that everyone seems to have eyes on the harbor and your perception is so high you can actually see and interact with the conceptual “eyes”
As funny as that is, I can't imagine Titus being all sneaky and weird. Some other Union member.. or Ruud? He swore in that skavenesque speak like Ruud. "Fuckshit." "Pigfuck."
@@JohanKylander yeah, thats what I was thinking too
Could also be the ancient reptilian brain. Uses the same words like copper.
I was quite annoyed by succeeding at the visual calculus check before meeting Ruby and not being able to investigate the islet after checking points B' and B''.
I tried to follow a good 100% walkthrough on steam for this gem, but I kept experiencing text box freezes that soft locked the game, glad I get to see this content.
I had that happen on my moralist politics quest. As soon as the aerostatic arrived the game would soft lock. Really sucked.
@@gimpscam9976 I tried to look up how to fix it, I cant even get past talking to measurehead without the game freezing after he walks off screen, and I cant talk to the guy on the balcony. Seems like it was some update that caused the glitch, but it doesn't look like it'll be fixed.
Thank you for being the best Disco Elysium Channel out there!
You’re too kind! Thank you 🫶
@@The41stPrecinctbtw the commentary is a great improvement! Feel free to continue it.
@@steadyjumper3547 thank you that means a lot, I am slowly building confidence with it 🙂
Omg, ur doing video-essay/commentary style content now? Huge W
Haha I’m trying but it’s a confidence thing at the moment, hoping the more I do the easier it’ll get :)
dame your voies is cool❤
@@The41stPrecinct stick with it! You did a great job!
@@The41stPrecinct I like it too!!
@@JamrockHobo2nd thank you bröther! ✊
I'm surprised how many of those hidden secrets i encountered on my own first playthrough going in blind. all except the eyes and seagulls. guess my detecting was decent.
Those Mysterious Pair of Eyes had a very relaxing voice. Great ASMR. Thank you for the video.
Maybe I'm late with this, seen it recently with one player who had a terrible luck with Visual Calculus and didn't manage to get the trajectory in Klaasje's bedroom until the tribunal.
And then she failed that skillcheck again (with the thread left by Klaasje) which led to a funny moment when Visual Calculus said something like: - screw it, no time for this anymore, you passed 😂 (obviously because without this check you wouldn't know you need to go to the island and softlock yourself).
I'm not sure if that's really a secret but still it's funny that even the game becomes tired of failed checks and goes like: You know, f*** it, that's too much even for me 😂
Visual Calculus finally paying off in my playthrough, after a full game of fucking up basically every single Physique/Motorics skillcheck (and missing both the gun and the necktie-bomb), was so powerful.
Harry in my game was basically a bumbling (albeit clever! and charming!) fuckup until it finally came time to solve the case (and then the Phasmid scene played out perfectly and I only cried a little bit).
It's no coincidence by the game devs to make Mysterious Eyes's voice the same actor as Hardy... 🤨
does anybody else think the eyes sound like “the central scrutinizer” from Joe’s Garage?
🤣 I don’t know who that is so I’ll take your word for it
My first thought
Thiss iss the central scrutinisser
It's kinda funny that despite how precise the writing in this game is, they fudge the orientation of Klaasje's rooftop balcony. If south is straight down her balcony is clearly facing South West with the location B''' bullet trajectory being South West, but the actual location of B''' on the map is North West - you can even see it in the overlay. This confused me at first and had me trying to go further South West that was possible.
maybe...the pair of eyes are Rud the killer?
Took me some time and some trial/error to find out that Gary makes pies and you can actually consume one of those. Cool achievement.
Perception 9 on Day 1? That's brutal...
(all the more reason to do the Motorics build I've been cooking)
You can get the frog hat from siileng for a +2 perception which will help 👍
@@The41stPrecinct Wait, wasn't it nerfed to +1 or something?
@@SonnyFRST it is +1
Really digging the new format! Can't wait to see what else comes next 😁👍
Thank you so much 🫶
Thank you for actually showing all the dialogue options! I have some kind of completetionist in me so I appreciate it
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Revachol will be nuked in the future (when the book takes place!). I think the title screen is that moment
It seems the snipersnest was moved? Once I found the spot I checked a few maps and the trajectory seemed to be pretty much perpendicular to the rooftop window. Making it impossible to hit even a few cm inside. I always found it a bit of a plot hole since the shot would have been impossible. But the graphic at 27.30 seems to put the nest on the main bunker. That indeed seems to, just barely, work.
Hmm possibly, it’s always a bit weird trying to line this kind of thing up when using a 2D map for a 3D place, and even more difficult when all you have is an artists impression.
I always had the shot as just between the graffiti wall and the yard, very narrow but just about doable.
wait what??? the visual calculus thing at the end was a secret??? i just got it in my playthrough, i thought that is how you are supposed to solve it
The secret is the fact the menu screen is the same view the deserter has of Martinaise 😁
About the island location in main menu etc. If you read dialogs from multiple characters carefully enough, a lot of them literally say or compare something to that island or any other similar island ruins. Like for example when Joyce Messier randomly spreads her hands, asks what does she look like right now and one of the options to answer is something along the lines "like those island ruins that look like a rotten tooth". Also if you have high enough shivers and inland empire, they always show you insulindian phasmid or this old man (deserter) doing something.
Yeah there are lots of hints directing you to the answer but when you play the first time they’re not always so obvious, when you go back for another run you end up slapping your forehead the whole time 😂
I actually deduced the trajectories in Klaasje's room before that on my first playthrough. I was playing a Harry with terrible motorics and strength but high psyche and intellect. Not sure if the ballistics reconstruction itself was the secret, but I also did find the shooter's spot
Huh, I got the car dialoge recently during my first hardcore playthough, I'll check my stats/ what I did before
my base stats are 1 INT 5 PSY 4 PHS and 2 MOT with +1 Skill point in each conceptualization, visual calculus, inland empire, perception and savoir faire with bonus points from the starting clothes and garden gloves.
Thoughts I've internalized so far are the volumetric shit compressor, and inexplicable feminist agenda and lonesome way home still in progress.
I also don't have my ledger (but did take the clothes out of the trash) and don't have my badge reported, but did every option while at the kineema related to asking kim about his car, as well as every option during the examination of the body except for trying to pull the boots off. Also failed the check for the hole in the fence
I did retry it twice from the last save I had right before and didn't get the option again tho, so maybe it's a chance thing?
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Thank you so much my friend! Appreciate it! 🫶
god dammit i never saw the eyes
I also can't remember what build (or combo of prior thoughts and activities?) gets you the Kim's car suggestion, but I've had it a few times. High conceptualization, maybe?
Someone in the comments mentioned the Savoir check that comes just before as the influence, seems like a solid answer
I swear, on putting the game on hardcore for the first time, I managed to flirt with Alice, I believe?
I don’t remember any flirting, maybe you wanted it to be flirting? 😆
Ive gotten the dialogue about using kims car to cut the rope before in a normal playthrough. My highest stat was 5 in all motorics, with hand eye coordination as the special skill. I have no idea what causes that line to come up
Has anyone else gotten the zebra print spandex that you wear underneath your clothing? Maybe it’s common I dunno I just only found it once.
It’s the leopard print body suit and of course…
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keep going bro your doing a good work❤
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As a sidenote, who do you guys think the mysterious pair of eyes belong to?
Personally I like the idea of them being Titus, sounds like him, only available on day one, so it adds up.
I also accept theories suggesting it’s not, though, there’s not a whole lot of reason for it to be him.
@@The41stPrecinct Yeah , Titus would make sense. The other theory I heard that would make sense is Ruude, because that guy has a similar shushed voice , and seems to be really sneaky, since no one figured out he even existed before the tribunal.
@@Somajsibere My argument against the Ruud theory is why is he behind the harbour gates, can only be a union man and Evrart does instruct the hardies to lay low.
Feel like I could do a whole video just on this 😂
It sounds like Titus but since various VA do several voices, that doesn't mean it's officially him. It could be just an other dock worker, or, allow me to speculate wildely, the "missing" Hardie Boy. What if Titus happens to have a (twin) brother too? But it's most likely just "a dock worker" , possibly Titus if he likes sneaking out whenever Harry goes outside...
@@robv.8676Wasn't Ruby the missing hardie boy?
wow you have a nice voice
Thank you 😁
The truth is out there
Oh, I actually got the seagull one, it was hilarious
Omg I got the car to get the body down on my first playthrough 😮
It could be something with being thorough. I remember trying everything to avoid going to the doc workers.
Great video, but you missed a few details. I have over 1300h of playtime, and I just started a new run to refresh my memory about a few blind spots that are very hard to trigger in the game. I'd love to chat. How can I contact you?
Discord, twitter, instagram are probably all the easiest if you use any of them? I’m @VGPhotogriffy on twitter and insta.
Discord is pointandgriff
Nice vid
Thank you 🙌
I did the visual calculus in my first game, how do you even go to the island without it?
The secret is that the view in the main menu is the same view as from the crows nest, not just the viscal check itself 👍
This needs timestamps.
That would require someone a lot less lazy than me :)
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How is the last one a ‘hidden secret’?
It reveals the view from the main menu was the view of the deserter the whole time, sorry this was my first "Secrets" video and I should've explained it better
@@The41stPrecinctah ok that makes sense, thanks for the explanation
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