The Shortcut That Turned Into A DISASTER | Proflight Zambia 705
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ProFlight Zambia flight 705, was on a routine domestic passenger flight within Zambia. As they were nearing their destination the crew opting to fly a visual approach to Kenneth Kaunda int airport. What first appeared to be routine turned into a nightmare for the crew and passengers as the pilots looked to take a shortcut but this led to disaster. The aircraft was thrown into darkness, struck by lighting and forced to descend at a rapid rate, this video will show you how this occurred and what happened next...
The final report can be accessed here: aaib.org.zm/reports/9J-PZB.pdf
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ummm I think you should remove the space character between the last slash and the "curious". Because that's supposed to be part of the link, no?
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@@josh2961'a bit'
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Thanks a lot for covering this! I'm a Zambian pilot and didn't even know this final report was issued and made public! I'm also surprised anyone outside of Southern Africa has even heard of this incident. Most of the info I had before was just from word of mouth and what i could parse from looking at the aircraft. The poor bird was pretty much scraped for parts and was just the fuselage, wings, and tail on a stand (the landing gear was removed) the last time I saw it.
I don't work for Proflight, so my info outside this report isn't the most reliable, but I'll say this was an excellent presentation of the events. Please don't view PO or flying in Zambia as unsafe. This is one of the few incidents I've ever heard about and pretty much the only one that's gotten mainstream attention.
I’m always on the lookout for less well known incidents to cover on this channel, when I came across this one, I was so surprised at the outcome. Especially with the aircraft waiting to depart (I think it was a UAE aircraft) watching it taxi back in, in that condition! It’s great to hear from you, I’m glad you enjoyed the video and found out a little more about the aircraft that was stripped for parts!
Your English is so good considering you’re from Zambia, an African country I’ve never heard of!
@@StonedUp1 English is the official language of Zambia. It only makes sense I can speak and write it without issue ;-p Not everyone can speak it well, but 95% of young people who grew up in the city are fluent
I actually never knew about this till now . I always watch these documentaries
Really? And what makes you think we can't speak English in Africa? Your English is good too. @@StonedUp1
I love how you cover lesser-known incidents like this. It's no secret that sub-Saharan Africa is largely ignored by the rest of the world, so this is important.
Thank you, most people interested by these investigations have seen the 'main' ones reanimated and explained many times. I think it's important to find lesser known incidents as there is still so much that can be learnt, it also provides fresh information for people to see. The aviation industry is very good at using mistakes and accidents to grow and develop, including ones from all over the world.
Even the parts of Africa that are outside of sub-Saharan areas tend to not have the same mainstream coverage.
That’s another good reason to watch channels such as this to keep attuned for these incidents🙏
@@CuriousPilot90 can you do the Boeing 747 crash in Nairobi.? It was the 1st crash for the 747. I don't think anyone has covered it
Honestly had a dinner guest once say that the world could learn from aviation in Africa because "planes don't ever crash there" and I ............ Yeah, they do. Aviation worldwide has become safer, but plane crashes do happen in Africa. It's just they barely get a mention in the global media, especially if the accident aircraft were domestic flights, regardless of casualties.
I intended to say the same thing the OP did - that I love how you find incidents that I haven’t seen anywhere else and don’t know how the story is going to end.
Hopefully the Captain in particular, will have learnt something by the time he becomes truly experienced ie 10k+ hours 🙁. Because that was not a show of excellence by any description. The pilots made the kind of mistakes I keep hearing have caused GA fatal accidents.
The aircraft, enduring relentless hail, faced extraordinary challenges. It's truly astonishing to learn that every soul onboard emerged unscathed. This is indeed a captivating and exceptionally rare aviation tale. Kudos to you for sharing this unique and gripping story of an aviation accident!
I was shocked to discover the outcome when I was researching it!
The rule is to always blame the aircrew no matter what . It don’t matter how many lives are saved my an experienced aircrew they will nit pick and find someway to partly blame the pilots.
All I can I say is that the pilots did a great job,though they made mistakes I’m glad we landed safely,I was in the plane ✈️..and everyone was calm we never knew what was happening big s/o for putting this out💯👊🏼
That hail damage was frightening! I’m impressed that the pilots were able to fly and land her.
I have been on this bombardier aircraft through almost a hour of storm. Im a testimony to its resilienncy. The damage to the aircraft was more than the earnings of all its flights on that day. Aircraft and passenger safety is of utmost priority
I was so shocked when I saw the damage to the plane!!! What a crazy story but amazing to see what happens when a plane goes through *that* (I won’t say just in case I ruin it for others)
Brilliant video and thank you for bringing this story to us. 😊
The damage was extensive so the passengers did indeed undergo a lucky escape
Thank you for the story. Just for information, the Dash 8 is certified for a maximum altitude of 25,000 ft. Cruising at FL230 (23,000 ft) is normal. But the flight crew may have saved time if they had selected a lower altitude, as the cruise speed is reduced above 20,000 ft.
Interesting point, thanks Magnar.
Thank you. It’s so refreshing to start watching coverage of an incident where I don’t already know what happens in the end.
Many channels could and should take a cue from this. But they won’t because well known and often covered incidents get more views I guess.
That’s good to hear, but also as you say there doesn’t seem to be the appeal for less well known incidents, which means the views don’t come with it. I do believe within the community of people who enjoy air crash investigations, new, fresh incidents will appeal to them but it’s just making them aware the content exists!
That aircraft got beaten up badly! Thank goodness everybody was okay.
The fact this plane landed seemed more by luck than anything else, the extent of the damage was unreal. If 1 critical thing was damaged it would have been a catastrophe.
It would seem that because the plane had props it worked in its favour. I’m not sure if a small jet engine could survive that level of hail!
Well the props are powered by a jet engine it just has a much smaller intake throat and the hail is probably deflected significantly by the props
I have been a pilot for 44 years, 19000 hours. Safety is your basic rule at all times, and if you operate in a conservative manner, nothing bad ever happens
Sadly I've seen more than a few reports by Green Dot Aviation, Mentour Pilot and more that show that no matter how conservatively the pilot flies, no matter how safety-conscious they are, no matter how skilled they are... sometimes the life or death of the people on board their aircraft is out of their hands, as a result of unexpected, impossible-to-predict weather, failures of maintenance, or something else entirely.
Ofcourse thats true. But thats like the difference between a person passing away of natural causes or getting murdered by another person.
Very interesting! And also great to see how incredible airplanes are, that they can withstand such damage and still land safely.
I also generally love longer videos (like 20+ minutes), but I realize that you're still growing and may not have the resources for that yet. I love seeing your channel grow.
I am not sure where you live, but in the EU it's mandatory (or maybe that's just Germany, I don't know) that you put a tiny text saying "advertisement" somewhere on the screen while the sponsor is being advertised. Just somewhere in the corner, and it can be really small. Though I don't think anyone could hold you accountable since you can't be expected to adhere to every law worldwide.
I like the progress bar during the sponsorship! :) and the "pause" animation before it ^^
Had to giggle when you debated the pronunciation of "aluminium" :D
You're doing so well and I really look forward to all your future videos!
Thank you as always. I am currently in the UK and the progress bar is there because you mentioned it in the past! I thought it was a great idea.
You’re right about the length of videos, sometimes it’s the amount of information on an incident that holds back the time but also it’s the amount of time they take to make!
It’s interesting, because of the nature of the videos it’s difficult to inject my own personality into the videos especially for the more serious incidents. Sponsor messages are probably the only place that I can have a bit more freedom.
quite an illustration of the robust strength and structure of the trusty dash - 8
I think so!
This was a new one for me. Corporate pressure is not a good excuse for risking lives and aircraft.
You are right, safety needs to come first, company pressure on pilots to cut corners (literally in this case) should not be happening.
Yet it happens all day every day, clearly hope and dreams don’t work and a different approach to enforcing safety standards is needed
I've definitely not heard about this incident before, and was so glad to hear that everybody made it safely to the ground.
I know from personal experience that moderate turbulence in small planes can seem life threatening, so I can imagine that everybody onboard this flight was terrified to their bones.
Great video, without excess drama, as I like it! Besides, that ALLUMINUM suitcase is cool!
It really must have been! And the case is super cool, I’m glad I got to share it with you all. 😁
Thank you for this!
No one covered this one as far as I see.
Love this channel :)
What a Great video!! This story was a first for me & a plus to hear the out come. Love this channel, 🙏🏼
That’s great to hear, thank you.
As always, great vid!
Great video! I’ve never heard of this incident before- as someone who is scared of flying, it’s actually really reassuring to see how resilient aircraft are! Thanks :-)
That’s true! The fact that the aircraft could take that much of a beating and continue to fly pretty much as normal is pretty amazing!
Great video!
Very well done. Love your work. I only wish some, like this one, were a little longer. Cheers
Thank you, as the channel continues to grow it should allow for more time and resource to be used to generate longer videos! I hope so! 😁
Thats the art of storytelling, keepig it concise enough to be relevant and not just padded out with waffle
Great video. I had not heard of this incident before. Thank you.
That’s good to hear. I found this one particularly shocking when I saw the pictures of the damage to the aircraft!
Next time someone tells me that turbulence isn't dangerous, I'll laugh bitterly.
👀 I have a video which says this… which will tell you why I think that is still true. In this incident it was more the large hail that created the damage. The turbulence would have made it much more uncomfortable though!
Thank you for covering this incident. Very informative video. I remember this incident but never heard of the final report.
Glad to finally know how it all transpired.
Keep up great work. Your videos, even if not covering the most spectacular incidents, are very inspirational and we'll made. Looking forward to more content!
Thank you, hopefully it will bring people back as they know they are likely to not get repeats of the same incidents. (It will happen sometimes but I try to avoid it 😁) Thanks again!
As a retired airline pilot, I am extremely concerned with the commercial pressure placed on pilots these days. Added pressure is the restrictive fuel calculated to the last kg by a computer program....although legal, it is very restrictive in terms of avoiding weather. Gone are the days when the captain was in control...nowadays the captain is a bean-counter sitting in a office at HQ.
Bean counters in charge are the worst thing that's happened to aviation in general. Look at Boeing for a prime example. It used to be run by engineers, yet mysteriously, they made safe airplanes and money at the same time.
@@chipsawdust5816 Yes, the restrictive fuel does not save money in the long term. One diversion cost millions. Much better to just hold for a while, shoot a few approaches or divert a few miles to avoid cb's. Our airline have annually at least one aircraft out of service for months, damaged by hail or turbulence. All could be avoided if they had fuel. ICAO has to change regulations.
Hadn;t heard of this one previously; great presentation!
Appreciate it, Mike.
Great stuff, continue the brilliant work.
Thank you 👍
Just adding to my adoration for the q400! It’s like a modern, extra-large Beaver. Beast!
I highly appreciated the effort into covering this because the final report was so vague.
Enjoying your new and fresh eyes on the aviation world. Great to see some African representation!
Extremely well presented and the level of attention to detail is excellent. I look forward to seeing further videos of this nature. Thank you
Thank you very much! Next video coming this Sunday!
I was on a Continental 727 from Ft. Lauderdale to Newark that had all these symptoms.
Thanks for the interesting video! I hadn't heard of this incident before
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love these! You cover less known accidents and incidents! 45 year GA pilot here and pilots can learn a lot by these rarely covered accidents!
That’s exactly what I’m going for and fundamentally agree! Thank you Steven.
There is so much to learn out there plus as an added bonus people get to see fresh incidents rather than the ‘main’ ones that keep getting remade. That being said, I may give a mainstream event a go to try to get more people aware of this channel. Not sure yet! 😁 Thank you for the comment.
I am (genuinely) not sure how difficult or time-consuming it is to put timestamps on the video, but that could be a next step. Although that would also make it somewhat necessary to divide the video into chapters, which I'm not sure is something you wanna do.
Plus it'd make it easier for people to skip the sponsorship part of the video, which (I guess) isn't something that you'd want.
Well, that's the only unsolicited idea I have right now :P
Hope you're having a fantastic day as well!
I’ll have a look, I think I used to have a plugin that would automatically do this. I thought TH-cam was now automatically doing it… I’ll look into it.
@@CuriousPilot90 I remember John J nance who you’ve probably heard of - is a famous aviation commentator and retired pilot now ,he says “whatever you do wrong ultimately you only have to do one thing right -bring the aircraft and the passengers back safely”! I think this event would come under that category as despite all the faults and errors the crew did , some pretty amazing airmanship to stay calm ,keep the aircraft under control and bring it safely back down to the runway🎉
Thank you for this content, I found it extremely interesting. As a current Dash 8 captain with 15,000 hours on type, I’m always on the lookout for Dash 8 incident reports. There really is no excuse for the crew’s actions since they had avoided en-route weather, indicating that the radar was serviceable and this magnitude storm would have been clearly visible on the weather radar. It is a testament to the robustness of the Dash 8 that it continued and landed safely.
Great video!
only recently started following the channel and have now watched a video about an incident from my country 😃
So happy to see another upload!
I just watched a video about the Jessica Dubroff story on Disasterthon. Great channel, another great video. Not an aviation channel.
As an av fan, I obviously was in need of the technical context I'm so used to because I follow the handful of excellent aviation incident channels I follow.
So came on here to request a video on the Jessica Dubroff incident from a technical angle.
I'd love to hear what you think!
A great video! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Having seen the broken plane at the Proflight hangers got me wondering if they ever got to an accident report. But to have a whole animation this is amazing work 👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾 you have a new fan
Thank you so much! I've had a few people mention that they have seen the aircraft after the incident, really awesome to hear. It's a shame it was stripped down but as we saw from the report (or you see with your own eyes) it was pretty beat up after the event!
Thanks for this scary educational video. Just Amen 🙏.
@CuriousPilot90 i love to hear you say "aluminium"😅❤
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Love the aluminium luggage robust and secure 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great video.Niice case👍!
Thanks 😁
Wow. Amazing.
CP may i ask which type aircraft are you flying..
Enjoy this channel immensely.. got my two best mates to recently sub up too ..😊
Impressed.
This incident shows how the pilots endangered the lives of the passengers by their poor judgment and apparently didn't receive any type of disciplinary actions against them. That's the most frightening part of this video. They're still out there flying passengers.
I read somewhere that they lost their jobs.
They were lucky it did not break apart in the sky.
This channel has inspired me to cut back on my pre-flight cocktails.
It's time l took my pilot responsibilities seriously. This time l mean it.
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So to save a few minutes, the flight crew wrote the aircraft off!
Luckily it was just a write off! And you are right, just to save a few minutes!
Better to land late than become a statistic…
Exactly!
What a tuff little aeroplane!!!
I think so too!
Gotta love those dash-8s
The worst thing is that lightning goes up as high as it goes down. I flew a met flight into CAT now that was a frightening experience my plane had been battered and was immediately retired.
@@K1OIK clear air turbulence.
Good job, saved some time there. It's only a thunderstorm and passengers were tied down. What could go wrong?
"2 hour delay"
That was an unexpected flashback to snow days.
Getting Air France 447 vibes. Thank God they landed safely
Great video. There are a lot of good aviation stories in Brazil that are not very covered in english. Would be nice to see it
I’ll take a look. 😁
great story...never heard of it... lucky pilots...lucky passengers!
Agreed!
That suitcase would be piece of mind when leaving luggage behind during an emergency
Watching your video reminded me of another crash in Africa (Nigeria? ). Have you done the crocodile?
How lucky they were 🙏
Excellent story, though you should have lead with "almost turned into a disater " as no matter the flight, a safe landing is a good landing. What a tough plane that lightning 🌩 was trying to blow that plane out of the sky! Thank god!
Yes that is the correct pronunciation of aluminium...nice show by the way
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Maybe cover 2007 midair collision of 2 news helecopters in Phoenix?
Maybe they didn't report the weather to ATC because they were a little busy at the time?
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Not being familiar to the local weather conditions, I find it difficult to judge the crew.
When initiating visual approach, technicaly they still were IFR, and there actions seem to me reasonably.
Don't know if they could see the CB on the radar at that time.
Emergency decent when being visual seems reasonably to me.
CB cloud was reported 3500 Ft but what what the elevation at the airport, and what was there altitude ?
Any thought on this ?
Enjoyed the video.
It would be good if you could do a report on British European Airways Flight 548. I have studied the AAIB report and it is full of assumptions and blames the Captain (Captain Key) without considering other possibilities such as there was an additional pilot in the jump seat, that had access to the stick pusher over ride lever and an aerosol that would be used by that pilot was found in the footwell was that discharged? ( No one thought Germanwings Flight 9525 could happen but it did) . The AAIB report was influenced by the Board of Trade and Captain Key was scapegoated.
I’ll have a look, thank you for the recommendation.
In America it's "AL" Lume" "MIN" NUM" Always has been always will.
Radar?? If it doesn't work or you don't have it, fly low. Old school. When below the cloud bases of thunderstorms, which are usually well above 5000' agl, you can SEE most of the precipitation and easily avoid it (along with it's accompanying turbulence). Even at night! Lightning will illuminate the rain shafts.Turboprops don't suffer a huge hit in fuel mileage doing this. If you're caught in severe turbulence, disconnect the altitude hold and maintain pitch. Avoid storms at all costs. These people were extremely lucky.
One Tuff Airplane. Stands to reason it was originally designed for military.
But had the crew deviated from the flight plan and brought the plane in late but undamaged they'd have got a bollocking.
Classic case of shit or bust.
Whatever. It didn't feature a stampede to avoid a loose adult crocodile. The bar is set pretty high for African crashes. 😅
Good video. I enjoy your channel. I respectfully disagree with your comment about the resilience of the accident aircraft. Based upon the photographs, I suspect the pilots were fortunate (lucky) that the propellors and windscreens remained intact. Additional damage to the control surfaces, or an imbalance in one of the propellors, might have rendered the aircraft uncontrollable. What disturbs me most is the pilots' baffling decision not to report the hail storm and intense CB activity to air traffic control. That decision placed other aircraft at risk. I sincerely hope that these pilots are no longer allowed to fly passenger aircraft, given their cavalier attitude towards safety.
I realize the flight computer is essential to modern day pilots, does most of the difficult work for the pilots. However when real problems arise and the computer is not receiving information it needs, well it says “you’re on your own buddy I’m out of here”
How can the exterior graphics be absolutely stunning but the flight deck look so terrible 😅
Wow... it's crazy how those selfish idiot pilots could be so reckless irresponsible, and proud so much so, even with such little flight experience.
Theirs was airline in Mexico called taeza that is no more due to the disaster can u cover that
No surprise here....
I thought that case was on the plane!……😂
That will teach the pilots a lesson they will never forget. Ive flown with such captains. Normally lack of knowledge, lack of appreciation and cowboy attitude. Refresher training is not enogh... company cockpit crew culture need to change, and these pilots needs to be grounded for minimum 6 months... let them be a lesson to other in their company. Today im flying for anothet company... most capts here are very professional... that seriously let me realise how important is company culture.
It’s definitely something by they will learn from!!
It's OK that our friends in the UK add an 'i' to aluminum. After all. They brought us The Beatles!
We tried to bring beans on toast too but that didn't catch on as much.
I wonder if the insurers balked at paying for the aircraft due to the pressure brought to bear on the pilots to take this dangerous approach. Many times, especially with smaller airlines, the aircraft is leased by the airline from an investment group that actually owns the aircraft. I suspect that it's the airline that's required to insure, but in the only case I personally know of the leasing co. received insurance payment and then the insurance company sued the airline under subrogation. Comments?
What is actually considered to be an experienced flight crew? As I hear it through various figures between 2 to 20 thousand hours.
Yeah, the day businesses prioritize safety over profit will happen sometime around the 12th of Never.
I take it it didn't make it's 15hr second flight!
I’m sure they could have buffed it out and continued… 👀
@@CuriousPilot90 Sure. A little Bond-O smeared into the damage made by the hail and sanded, then she'd have been good to go.
@@eucliduschaumeau8813 don’t forget a light coat of primer over the Bond-O.
Less turbulence over the sanded areas
Just goes to show, the Dash 8 is a tank
I'll bet the seats needed a cleaning 😮
When I encounter bad weather I turn away
Just not worth it,
Don't get get there aitous
airborne radar ?
I see the Stirling Pacific case has reinforced “A380 corners” -it really is an aviation case when it’s reinforced by melted down airbus aircraft😂
Pilots job is to safely operate plane.
Lastly is to give pirep.
They screwed up but everyone walked away
Cheers
Let me off if they need too hurry
Excellent work. Irresponsible pilots.. didnt even report the adverse weather to help other planes. Idiots