Hi Bill, really interesting video. Have you ever looked into the locality differences in this species? I've always wondered why some get red bellies and blotchy black markings and others are a more solid gold and brighter blue heads with a solid black marking (line on female, spot on male). Just an observation I've made over the years and when you said your first pair were from Costa Rica I noticed the red belly on the female as that had been my guess that red bellys and irregular black markings = Costa Rica and solid golds/blues = Nicaragua. But I suppose the locality could be even smaller if you look at the Amphilophus species in the region.
Hi Andrew, it’s not something I know too much about. The first pair are F1 from Costa Rica, the others I don’t know the location of, I got them from Pier aquatics in the UK. I gave the ones from Pier to Big Fish Lad who has featured them on his channel a lot. You just don’t see enough of them about with locations to make a judgement.
@@BillsCichlidRoom Thanks Bill, they are such an under rated fish not just amazing colours but behaviour like you said with their nests, relationship with Dovii and I was reading about how they influence midas and convict populations too.
Thanks Andrew, the tanks are 4 foot x 18” wide x 15” high. Most of the tanks are over stocked at the moment, growing young fish on. It’s the only problem if you get small fish of 2” in a group of 6 to grow on - when they get to 6” plus you start to run out of space.... I have only got 2/3 of the fish room set up at the moment - another 6 tanks to go when I need them.
Great, thanks. I am just rebuilding a san juan, costa rica biotope with an 8 foot tank. Group of longis, two multis, two nics, and possibly a centrarchus if i can find some. Along with dithers, what are your thoughts on that kind of stocking? Would that work or do you think thats too much or could i add more? Like A Septemfasciatus. Thanks. Will watch more vids tonight
@@BillsCichlidRoom that is great. Enjoying your other vids. Do you recommend any dithers like Poecilia or others? Or have suggestions as to where to get wild types?
Hi Andrew, I have success with Swordtails but i believe Mollies also come from this area, as to wild ones I’m not sure where has them at the moment, you could try Pier Aquatics in Wigan, Aqualife in Leybold or Whalf Aquatics in Matlock. Please let me know how you get on with your tank.
Hi Nick, they can be aggressive, Big Fish Lad had a pair that terrorised his tank. I’ve never had problems with them, funny how they all have different personalities.
Ha ha thanks Paul, yes the Cuban is about 2” - got a group of 6, but 5 of them rolled over after a couple of weeks, this is the only one left - don’t know what sex it is though.
Nice Dovivi baby sitters these , they will look after Dovie fry so Dovie don’t eat them and eat beats instead . Ur right there eggs don’t stick .these don’t hybridise either
Beautiful fish, I had a pair way back in the early 80s, you’re pair are very nice really informative video .
Thanks for sharing Bill, great info, was waiting for this species profile! 👍
Thanks Raymond, thanks for the encouragement, much appreciated
@@BillsCichlidRoom no probs mate, great learning new facts about the centrals, can’t beat them
Hi bill , very informative video
Thanks Mark, glad you enjoyed watching
I used to keep these, one of my favourite cichlids.
Hi Bill, really interesting video. Have you ever looked into the locality differences in this species? I've always wondered why some get red bellies and blotchy black markings and others are a more solid gold and brighter blue heads with a solid black marking (line on female, spot on male). Just an observation I've made over the years and when you said your first pair were from Costa Rica I noticed the red belly on the female as that had been my guess that red bellys and irregular black markings = Costa Rica and solid golds/blues = Nicaragua. But I suppose the locality could be even smaller if you look at the Amphilophus species in the region.
Hi Andrew, it’s not something I know too much about. The first pair are F1 from Costa Rica, the others I don’t know the location of, I got them from Pier aquatics in the UK. I gave the ones from Pier to Big Fish Lad who has featured them on his channel a lot.
You just don’t see enough of them about with locations to make a judgement.
@@BillsCichlidRoom Thanks Bill, they are such an under rated fish not just amazing colours but behaviour like you said with their nests, relationship with Dovii and I was reading about how they influence midas and convict populations too.
Just got a pair of these ,good info ,thank you
A brilliant fish I had a pair of them when i was in my 20s they actually got quite big in the end , must have had them 8 odd years
Hi Liam, what’s happing mate, not heard from you for a while.
Just subscribed, love the vids. Are you able to pls tell us the tank dimensions and stock levels in these tanks? Thanks again
Thanks Andrew, the tanks are 4 foot x 18” wide x 15” high. Most of the tanks are over stocked at the moment, growing young fish on. It’s the only problem if you get small fish of 2” in a group of 6 to grow on - when they get to 6” plus you start to run out of space.... I have only got 2/3 of the fish room set up at the moment - another 6 tanks to go when I need them.
Great, thanks. I am just rebuilding a san juan, costa rica biotope with an 8 foot tank. Group of longis, two multis, two nics, and possibly a centrarchus if i can find some. Along with dithers, what are your thoughts on that kind of stocking? Would that work or do you think thats too much or could i add more? Like A Septemfasciatus. Thanks. Will watch more vids tonight
Sounds good to me, I would love an 8 foot tank. Plenty of territories & hiding place should do it. I like the septs, the siquia would be good as well.
@@BillsCichlidRoom that is great. Enjoying your other vids. Do you recommend any dithers like Poecilia or others? Or have suggestions as to where to get wild types?
Hi Andrew, I have success with Swordtails but i believe Mollies also come from this area, as to wild ones I’m not sure where has them at the moment, you could try Pier Aquatics in Wigan, Aqualife in Leybold or Whalf Aquatics in Matlock. Please let me know how you get on with your tank.
What is the fish with the black face at the beginning ?
It’s the amatitlania Myrnae female in breeding colours
Mine is actually pretty aggressive. It is in with other South American Cichlids. Definitely the boss of the tank.
Hi Nick, they can be aggressive, Big Fish Lad had a pair that terrorised his tank. I’ve never had problems with them, funny how they all have different personalities.
Brilliant informative video again Bill lovely fish bud did i hear you say you had a Cuban 🤔 i am on the look out for a female 😂
Ha ha thanks Paul, yes the Cuban is about 2” - got a group of 6, but 5 of them rolled over after a couple of weeks, this is the only one left - don’t know what sex it is though.
@@BillsCichlidRoom wow you lost 5 thats not great man 🙈 you could have grown me a female out
@@bigfishlad4847 I have a spare 6 inch female Cuban Paul but I live a long way away from you
@@liamwalters5029 aw man that would have been great but yes opposite ends of the country lol
@@bigfishlad4847 I don’t often do it but have experience posting fish I will think about it as I’m very busy with work commitments at moment
My dream.... Crybroheros Robertson.... thorichtys pasionis 👍
Thank you so much, appreciate your comment
Nice Dovivi baby sitters these , they will look after Dovie fry so Dovie don’t eat them and eat beats instead . Ur right there eggs don’t stick .these don’t hybridise either