Upfront: I rarely comment on TH-cam. Having said that, ... this is by far the most authoritative contemporary voice on documentary photography. Incredible impromptu speaking and to the point. A pleasure and privilege to listen to. Priceless advice. Thank you.
Fabulous message that mirrors a realization I had a few months back: to be a better photographer, I need to be a better communicator/storyteller. By stretching to find and tell the story, I'll stretch my skills. Technique and skills should be in service to the story, not the other way around. Thanks for your tough love advice - it's completely refreshing and needed!
Another fantastic Milnor! You are really putting the bar way up in the sky, but you are right! Your advice means nothing else than being totally dedicated to showing "the mystery of the visible " GREAT! thks
I have become a big fan of Daniel Milnors work. And his very direct way to say things. And I have saidt it before but I say it again. I agree whats he saying.
I appreciate this Daniel. It speaks even beyond documentary photography and pieces can apply to other genres and art forms. My wife as an author/writer and who is not a photographer was inspired after I had her take a listen because I thought she could benefit as well. Thank you.
I love research! I'm working on a zine to showcase the first three conceptual series that I have shot and even though they deal with aspects I'm familiar with I still read books to gain a better understanding of both the subject and myself. Love this channel. Wish I had discovered it earlier.
Incredible insight. As a scientist, I am sometimes amazed when others can't describe the relevancy of their research and can't summarize it for laypeople. If you can't explain it, doing it has less meaning. I can't wait to have more time to think deeply into my photography....
Absolutely love these videos, grateful to Daniel for sharing and this youtube channel for providing a medium. His point about being more interested in the build up struck a chord with me, makes me question my path as a photographer into the photojournalism world vs documentary
Look at James Nachtwey and Sebastiao Salgado. Both insanely good at what they do. And there is some crossover for sure. But, look at a book titled Deeds of War or another titled Inferno and then look at Workers by Salgado. One is not better than the other but there is a difference in duration.
Another straight forward honest simple and profoudly important video. I like it: you can say important things in just a few minutes. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Portugal.
Thanks for sharing this. I am not into documentary photography, but this helps me understand to distinguish between journalist photography and street photography. Also some of the advises can be used for many other Genre. You always have a wealth of knowledge.
Thanks for this. Recently completed a His Pol degree and during it found a love for photography and began getting work. I'm now in a rut of architectural and PR photography. Combining both my studies and photography would be the dream for me. Inspiring video.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I found since graduating the two disciplines feel completely different but I'm going to take your advice and keep reading, reading, reading
@@joeymccallion What I didn't mention is that reading books helps remold the brain into something that can handle longer, slower things. The Internet physically rebuilt the human brain but the brain can morph in any direction we want. Just takes time and practice.
What can I say? Ever since I came across you a few days ago, my thoughts have been in major upheaval. Truths Ive felt but tried to ignore. When someone makes me this uncomfortable, it's most always been a good thing. I remember how much Jiddu Krishnamurti pissed me off when I first read him. Thanks for making me uncomfortable, Dan. It's about time I got off my ass. It's so much more than that but there has been a fundamental shift in my thinking. Thanks again.
At some point we all drive people crazy with our work. We get too close and too consumed and then we drive away the people closest to us. The key, coming back.
Hello, thank you for the video! I just have a question with regards of the "research" that we, as a photographers should be doing. What are the best resources to find other works? Or which are the best places to find this kind of information? Thank you! Greetings from Chile!!!
Tomas, it will all depend on the story. For example, I spent one day last week being introduced to a new story. Since then I have found two books written about the subject, someone made an introduction to the director of a local resource center that works in the specific area and field I will be working and I have also done some online snooping. I think this is common. Also, you have libraries and illustrated book stores like Photoeye in New Mexico that have massive shelves filled with books.
I remember seeing him speak before and he annoyed the hell out of me. It felt smug and dismissive. Maybe a week later I went back and watched again. While I still wasnt a fan of his delivery method, his messaging and passion were spot on for me. I dont believe you have to adhere to everything he believes photography is or should be. But, I do believe employing everything he's said here can do nothing but benefit us. Thanks for sharing.
So I do a lot of this, but as a 50 something new photographer how do I get to network/meet/collaborate with like minded people. Here in the UK the only thing that appears to be available for people of my age are ‘camera clubs’ ... tried them, believe me, they are not for me! I don’t want to make a living at this, but I would love to just meet/hang/chat/learn from with like minded people to stretch my photography and writing ... any thoughts from anyone gratefully received... PS No offence meant against camera clubs but that whole draughty church hall, bizarre competition clique mentality is just not for me ... tnx
Advancing Your Photography Thanks Mark alas I’m not on Facebook having been hacked a few times ... but I’ll continue to follow AYP ... brilliant stuff 😊
Upfront: I rarely comment on TH-cam. Having said that, ... this is by far the most authoritative contemporary voice on documentary photography. Incredible impromptu speaking and to the point. A pleasure and privilege to listen to. Priceless advice. Thank you.
Thanks JR. Just hoping to spare some of you all the mistakes I made...
Fabulous message that mirrors a realization I had a few months back: to be a better photographer, I need to be a better communicator/storyteller. By stretching to find and tell the story, I'll stretch my skills. Technique and skills should be in service to the story, not the other way around. Thanks for your tough love advice - it's completely refreshing and needed!
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Another fantastic Milnor! You are really putting the bar way up in the sky, but you are right! Your advice means nothing else than being totally dedicated to showing "the mystery of the visible " GREAT! thks
Thanks Ralph. A lot more than photography out there, so widening the base is a good thing.
Thanks Dan for sharing your story and reminding us that there's so much about photography that doesn't involve a camera!
im not sure how to express my gratitude for these advices 2020 is looking good already
Thanks for the advice. I find Daniel Milnor as one of the most helpful, insightful, knowledgeable photography instructors out here on TH-cam
Great I agree - why we have him on our channel. Stay tuned for more and please tell your friends!
I have become a big fan of Daniel Milnors work. And his very direct way to say things. And I have saidt it before but I say it again. I agree whats he saying.
Mr Milnor….this video was excellent…thx
This is 1 year's worth of sage advice in one video.
Thanks, Dan! Always great stuff for growth!!!
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Inspirational, informative and challenging. Exactly the best kind of TH-cam content when it comes to photography. Thank you.
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You did a podcast show on the beginner photography podcast than I remember you telling this story to him when I was listening .
I appreciate this Daniel. It speaks even beyond documentary photography and pieces can apply to other genres and art forms. My wife as an author/writer and who is not a photographer was inspired after I had her take a listen because I thought she could benefit as well. Thank you.
I love research! I'm working on a zine to showcase the first three conceptual series that I have shot and even though they deal with aspects I'm familiar with I still read books to gain a better understanding of both the subject and myself. Love this channel. Wish I had discovered it earlier.
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Incredible insight. As a scientist, I am sometimes amazed when others can't describe the relevancy of their research and can't summarize it for laypeople. If you can't explain it, doing it has less meaning. I can't wait to have more time to think deeply into my photography....
and Dan has a wonderful way of explaining and expressing how his works his craft.
Absolutely love these videos, grateful to Daniel for sharing and this youtube channel for providing a medium.
His point about being more interested in the build up struck a chord with me, makes me question my path as a photographer into the photojournalism world vs documentary
Glad you love him and we do too! Please be sure to share and tell your friends.
Look at James Nachtwey and Sebastiao Salgado. Both insanely good at what they do. And there is some crossover for sure. But, look at a book titled Deeds of War or another titled Inferno and then look at Workers by Salgado. One is not better than the other but there is a difference in duration.
Daniel Milnor I will definitely do that. Thank you for the suggestions and consideration.
Love everything by Dan. Great advice obviously learned through experience. Proper advice about long term progression. Awesome.
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Baaaang! 💥 No BS, only gold and diamants! 🎯👏👌
Fabulous insight and advice. Many thanks.
Dan this is really good advice. This is very well thought out and delivered.
Really liking your videos, great advice in this one.
Another straight forward honest simple and profoudly important video. I like it: you can say important things in just a few minutes. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Portugal.
Thanks Joao!!
Joao, man I want to go to Portugal. My father hated to travel but he loved Portugal!
Thanks for another great video Dan. I learn a great deal from every one of them. Look forward to the next one.
🙏 glad to hear! Stay tuned!
Great upload and video Dan. More words of wisdom
Thanks for sharing this. I am not into documentary photography, but this helps me understand to distinguish between journalist photography and street photography. Also some of the advises can be used for many other Genre.
You always have a wealth of knowledge.
Rhonald, I was never any good at street but was okay at PJ. Documentary, especially long-form, for whatever reason was what stuck with me.
Thanks Dan for this!!! Do you still do workshop a teaching ?
Thanks for this. Recently completed a His Pol degree and during it found a love for photography and began getting work. I'm now in a rut of architectural and PR photography. Combining both my studies and photography would be the dream for me. Inspiring video.
Hey Joe, smart. I was a PJ major but minored in Anthropology and Spanish both of which have come in very handy.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I found since graduating the two disciplines feel completely different but I'm going to take your advice and keep reading, reading, reading
@@joeymccallion What I didn't mention is that reading books helps remold the brain into something that can handle longer, slower things. The Internet physically rebuilt the human brain but the brain can morph in any direction we want. Just takes time and practice.
Sage advice for the modern photographer. Niépce had it easy.
Great video - considered, succint and full of great advice.
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What can I say? Ever since I came across you a few days ago, my thoughts have been in major upheaval. Truths Ive felt but tried to ignore. When someone makes me this uncomfortable, it's most always been a good thing. I remember how much Jiddu Krishnamurti pissed me off when I first read him. Thanks for making me uncomfortable, Dan. It's about time I got off my ass. It's so much more than that but there has been a fundamental shift in my thinking. Thanks again.
Perfect advice.
Glad you think so!
well said
Excellent information)
like dan , he is very interesting to listen tooo ...
True dat!
Every time I hear Dano speak I can't help think that photographic technology has made photographers LAZY. I know I am 90% of the time
Thanks Alan
Very good tips. Seriously I can’t stand people who are too intrenched in their work that they can’t even have a normal conversation with anyone.
At some point we all drive people crazy with our work. We get too close and too consumed and then we drive away the people closest to us. The key, coming back.
But but... Dual card slots!!!
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Hello, thank you for the video!
I just have a question with regards of the "research" that we, as a photographers should be doing. What are the best resources to find other works? Or which are the best places to find this kind of information?
Thank you!
Greetings from Chile!!!
Tomas, it will all depend on the story. For example, I spent one day last week being introduced to a new story. Since then I have found two books written about the subject, someone made an introduction to the director of a local resource center that works in the specific area and field I will be working and I have also done some online snooping. I think this is common. Also, you have libraries and illustrated book stores like Photoeye in New Mexico that have massive shelves filled with books.
I realized that look at other people photography who are better and I became better for myself
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Dan always give me that necessary kick up the backside... Thanks a million
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I think this bloke knows something.
I remember seeing him speak before and he annoyed the hell out of me. It felt smug and dismissive. Maybe a week later I went back and watched again. While I still wasnt a fan of his delivery method, his messaging and passion were spot on for me. I dont believe you have to adhere to everything he believes photography is or should be. But, I do believe employing everything he's said here can do nothing but benefit us. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching - and watching again - to get his message and passion.
So I do a lot of this, but as a 50 something new photographer how do I get to network/meet/collaborate with like minded people. Here in the UK the only thing that appears to be available for people of my age are ‘camera clubs’ ... tried them, believe me, they are not for me! I don’t want to make a living at this, but I would love to just meet/hang/chat/learn from with like minded people to stretch my photography and writing ... any thoughts from anyone gratefully received... PS No offence meant against camera clubs but that whole draughty church hall, bizarre competition clique mentality is just not for me ... tnx
Hey Robin here's our club that's not in a drafty old hall😆 facebook.com/groups/AYPCLUB
check it out
Advancing Your Photography Thanks Mark alas I’m not on Facebook having been hacked a few times ... but I’ll continue to follow AYP ... brilliant stuff 😊
So basically do more than take pictures? Gotcha
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“The first time I got shot at...” - you’re so not in the UK are you? 😂😂
Ha, had this conversation with a UK dweller last night.....nope. A bit different here. We love to shoot things, people included.
And then there is Peter Mckinnon.....
yep
Unrelenting.