Because the vast majority are british criminals. In addition it would require this thing called an international agreement with said countries. We all know how big the brits are on international cooperation, agreements and laws...
Private companies running our prisons aim for 8 - 10% profit margins. I wander how much privertisation plays a part in this picture. I know private prisons are more overcrowded than public prisons. Increased government spending can be drained by private profit extraction. Private prisons cost more per placement than public prisons. A prison crisis due to reaching capacity is serious in a democracy that is governed by rule of law.
Prison is not about rehabilitation it's about private security firms making money. Prison is a business and people with mental health issues should not be in prison.
Could send them back to Australia again . The top end / northern Territory could use some free labour for infrastructure projects. Over 1000 km of road through desert before you can turn left or right . Crocodile infested waters , and sharks in the ocean. And very unfriendly natives 😮 What could go wrong
@@cw8867 Not skint, at all. Just spending money on bad things and not on good things (to sound like a politician). When you're reliant on maintaining the status quo, it leaves you incapable of adapting when the status quo inevitably shifts.
@ChrispyNut lol did you just upvote your own comment? 😂 But yes we are skint the national debt is 2.5 trillion and borrowing was at 39 billion at the end of last year... No buddy, we are totally skint
@@cw8867 I did not, doesn't even show a like on my screen. Every country has debt, that's literally how money is created, whether it's public debt or private debt.
@ChrispyNut and just by coincidence the like has now disappeared 🤦♂️😂 Yeah and how exactly do you expect to pay that debt off if you're borrowing 39 billion every quarter?... you dont! because you always owe out capital so, in other words... skint If you don't understand thats ok mate *edited for typo
And guess how that will effect the probation officers already firefighting their intense high caseload. It will make it even more unmanageable, more officer breakdowns, and more SFO's. Trust me, this wont be ending well!!
this is because i told them to create a priority order on crimes and a priority order in prisons and let minor crimes like drug dealing and theft go free with warnings.
The fact that Labour are criticising Conservatives for this action when they did the exact same thing in 2007 shows they say whatever sounds good without an moral high ground from which to say it.
If prisoners were granted a clean slate on their departure it would undoubtedly reduce re-offending. A prison record is only too often a locked door on an ex offenders future.
wow this is chaos . As a foreigner watching this I am shock. You would expect this in a third world country . Not in a country of first world status . Looks like the U.K. Justice & Prison system needs a complete over haul .
If we legalised low level drugs (weed shrooms) stopped throwing mentally ill people into prison, stopped arresting people for having opposing views and focused more on rehabilitation over deterence maybe our prisons would be affective.
There is always the capital punishment option without the 20 year wait of course. Most of these prisons are just 3 star hotels with a few extra guards so maybe just build actual prisons that punish those that commit crimes. Prisoners can still get hold of drugs and mobile phones and pretty much whatever they like so obviously there is alot wrong with the current system. The system of law needs to change before anything else.
There are a number of European countries that currently have empty jail space. This includes Ireland, Malta, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Spain, Germany and Poland. Surely the Labour Government could conrtact with these countries to accept the overflow from UK prisons. This would be vastly cheaper than trying to construct and staff newly built prisons. In the Baltic states there is enough empty capacity to lease an entire prison complex. Move the local inmates out and possibly run the leased prison complex with UK prison guards. Don't think Kigali, Rwanda; think riga, Latvia!!
Labour believe in prison, prison, prison the conservatives believe in rehabilitation, rehabilitation, rehabilitation. Your sentence depends on which local council presides over the court. Due to COVID I could not be tried in Peterborough I had to be heard in Cambridge under Peterborough guidelines. I got probation
@@Shads187You are fully asleep. We don't, tax payers foot the bill or else inflation would occur, as tax payers don't have it inflation occurs anyway and we suffer even more
@@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dzas a 26yr old who pays thousands in taxs a year to a goverment who would lock me up for smoking a bit of weed then go home and crack open a bottle of chemicals to drink I fully agree with that guy. The most hypocritical, idiotic law this country has seen in decades. A law designed by clueless, racist idiots to lock up an entire race. And in 2024 its still being used to justify stop and searches. It's criminal.
Seriously, as UK citizen currently not living in the UK it looks like EVERYTHING is underfunded: NHS, Prisons, police, social services Everyone pays high taxes, so where is all the money going?!
That's what we keep asking! Paying private business huge fees for services that aren't delivered...my local hospital has cut back on really basic necessities because of costs, drugs, equipment, slings, crutches and the little plastic catheters they put in the back of your hand in a&e to administer drugs &drips... guess how much the tiny plastic things cost the NHS?? £20!! Each! For tiny plastic made for pennies. That's where tax payers money goes. So, which member of the Tory party is a director of the company that got that deal then?
What really strikes me is the contrast in how, amidst all these controversies, the Tories are vigorously pursuing legal actions to prosecute and imprison environmental activists from groups like Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion. It feels quite dystopian.
Fair play it only took the new Labour government 1 week to decide to release prisoners early. Glad to know we’ll have thousands of criminals loose on our streets hurting innocent people again.
We have over 12,000 prisoners on recall , most for silly reasons like not attending a probation meeting on time, review and release, there are 8,000 that are on a awful sentence called a IPP and have served their time multiple times, review and release, there are over 10,000 foreign nationals who could be sent back home, review and deport.
Crown Court should understand that whoever doesn’t have criminal records and it’s a small offence shouldn’t go to prison at no reason … they are many people that make mistakes For any reason and it’s not fair to full the prison with that punishment mentality of whoever commit a crime have to pay …
@@throwawaythrowaway9764 It ‘sounds like’ a phrase shouted in another language when a culturally diverse type comes at you with a pointy thing in malice for example.
Where are the prisoner's going to be housed? We have a halfway house down the road and there's more unease amongst people living here, because the released walk around drinking all day, smoking weed etc. There's no help for them, so they'll reoffend.
Or maybe any crime that isn't harming others (physically or financially) should be fines and rehabilitation courses rather than prison. I mean why are we sending 18yr olds to prison over a bit of weed in 2024. Why are people going to prison for litterally just being annoying. Why are mentally ill people being chucked into cells with no psychological help?
We need a system like the USA. They accept prison space is limited and justice has a financial limit.. The DA’s have to manage those limited resources. That’s why they offer plea bargains. A court case might bring a 5 year sentence. But if you don’t go to court they will offer 3 years instead. That’s saves the cost of a trial and two years imprisonment.
BBC Reality Check has examined the claim that Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) and has found no evidence that Sir Keir was involved at any point in the decision not to charge Savile. Your comment says all we need to know about you
Why didn't Rishi have access to the same report that Starmer used so well in PMQ's today? The report is available for all MP's to see. What's the use of civil servants and researchers and advisors (with or without rainbow lanyards) if everybody isn't on the same page? Are these people running the country or what? I could do better than this and I'm a lazy so-and-so...
Lol when this aged well. Amazing the concerns of Starma on early releases on violent criminals, now its him who will be releasing these said prisoners to make room for those saying 'naughty words'and upsetting others online 😅😅
you know what would be nice, if there narcissist who are on these benches can just stand up and say you sorry we have made mistakes ! lets get together and fix it ...
The thing about the court and prison system is that someone everyday is being sent to prison and they can make more space but it doesn't matter because there is more of us as people then prison cell and its only getting worser specialy as wii ara getting more people from different countries on boats that doesn't help 😀
Prison isn't that bad at all i have Been ones before and i was surprised how easy it was you get giveing vape pens when you get to the front door of a prison and fresh clothes and you get a tv in your cell and 3 hot meals a day its just like being at home the only thing is that your locked up that all 😀
Why not transfer foreign prisoners to prisons in their countries?
Because the vast majority are british criminals.
In addition it would require this thing called an international agreement with said countries. We all know how big the brits are on international cooperation, agreements and laws...
they may be also overcrowded ?
@@mary-annesade It should still be their responsibility to hold their own people.
the uk government wants british taxpayers to be depressed not happy!
Well, thanks to Brexit we no longer have such agreements with our closest neighbours
Never the prison on its knee the country’s on it knees
Karma
Basically then, after 14 years, the Tories have screwed up yet again!
uniparty, nothing to do with "tories" alone
Private companies running our prisons aim for 8 - 10% profit margins.
I wander how much privertisation plays a part in this picture. I know private prisons are more overcrowded than public prisons.
Increased government spending can be drained by private profit extraction.
Private prisons cost more per placement than public prisons. A prison crisis due to reaching capacity is serious in a democracy that is governed by rule of law.
blame migrants not Tories
@@2880ar Blame lib lab and con, actually.
@@bob-g3e3x its only there fault
Prison is not about rehabilitation it's about private security firms making money. Prison is a business and people with mental health issues should not be in prison.
Why don't they release all the people on laughable cannabis charges and non payment of unlawful fines
Amen
And hate speech crimes...and praying outside abortion centres..etc
@@biga1398Ironically, that's considered hate speech now.
@@suzanneportch113 I'm pretty certain they are false flags, just done to scaremonger
They don't get jailed for that since they made possession a none offense.
Only a hardcore get jail time.
The biggest risk to public safety is Sunak.
You should have kept Australia as your penal colony. You fools.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
🤣 Or the isle of man. Plenty of space there. One way flights/boat rides anyway
Could send them back to Australia again . The top end / northern Territory could use some free labour for infrastructure projects. Over 1000 km of road through desert before you can turn left or right . Crocodile infested waters , and sharks in the ocean. And very unfriendly natives 😮
What could go wrong
Oh please the last 14 years were all about AUSTERITY and cut backs
Yeah the country has been skint for decades now.. and it ain't going to get better no matter who is in charge
@@cw8867 Not skint, at all. Just spending money on bad things and not on good things (to sound like a politician).
When you're reliant on maintaining the status quo, it leaves you incapable of adapting when the status quo inevitably shifts.
@ChrispyNut lol did you just upvote your own comment? 😂
But yes we are skint the national debt is 2.5 trillion and borrowing was at 39 billion at the end of last year...
No buddy, we are totally skint
@@cw8867 I did not, doesn't even show a like on my screen.
Every country has debt, that's literally how money is created, whether it's public debt or private debt.
@ChrispyNut and just by coincidence the like has now disappeared 🤦♂️😂
Yeah and how exactly do you expect to pay that debt off if you're borrowing 39 billion every quarter?... you dont! because you always owe out capital so, in other words... skint
If you don't understand thats ok mate
*edited for typo
Smh. The stalker and domestic abuser without mental help will be a repeat offender.
MENTAL HELP THEY ARE JUST EVIL BULLIES WAKE UP
So the PM lied at PMQs. I'm shocked..... actually no I'm not! He lies a lot.
And labour don't? Labour has loose on crime policies and will have no plans with dealing with illegal immigration causing this issue to explode.
@@JamesBurdon-gu5yu they all do but i dnt vote so im not part of the problem
@@carlbland68 Fair
Scotland declared a housing emergency too. Maybe there are too many people on the island? There’s no excuse to be housing any foreign criminals.
When country is run by people detached from reality it will keep deteriorating no matter what is the name of the party.
Talking about things being earlier, what about an earlier General Election?
Not gonny happen
@@keithmarshall7084 😂
And guess how that will effect the probation officers already firefighting their intense high caseload. It will make it even more unmanageable, more officer breakdowns, and more SFO's.
Trust me, this wont be ending well!!
Prison should be reserved for people who are actually dangerous and/or those who abuse positions of power.
Like Dr s who gave out the jabbs
So most channel 4/Pro Hamas supporters?
What is the difference,we don't know who or what is wandering about this crime ridden hole 🕳️
14 years of Tory.
Which have identical views to labaor both are far left parties.
We don't need to worry about the prisoners
We need to be worried about the poloticians
I sure hope most of those people are not there because they offended someone
Not true, the case of Alex Belfield is a classic.
Half the people in jail dont NEED to be there
A classic case of Alex Belfield
Almost every Channel 4 supporter does need to be there as they support Islamic extremism and terrorist organisations.
this is because i told them to create a priority order on crimes
and a priority order in prisons and let minor crimes like drug dealing and theft go free with warnings.
Surely they must be able to squeeze in all those MPs….
The fact that Labour are criticising Conservatives for this action when they did the exact same thing in 2007 shows they say whatever sounds good without an moral high ground from which to say it.
What about sending them to Rwanda ?
Who all the immigrants taking up our prisons? Good idea!!
If prisoners were granted a clean slate on their departure it would undoubtedly reduce re-offending. A prison record is only too often a locked door on an ex offenders future.
They will be letting people who put stickers up out early then eh?
Lol great point!
Oh no they'll make sure they do full term it'll just be the dangerous nutcases they let out that's all.
No he was deemed far-right by the state and will spend even longer inside
@@leehenry5764 That's true.The far left establishment does not like whites.
@@leehenry5764 That's true.The far left establishment does not like Huwhites.
wow this is chaos . As a foreigner watching this I am shock. You would expect this in a third world country . Not in a country of first world status . Looks like the U.K. Justice & Prison system needs a complete over haul .
If we legalised low level drugs (weed shrooms) stopped throwing mentally ill people into prison, stopped arresting people for having opposing views and focused more on rehabilitation over deterence maybe our prisons would be affective.
Last time I got out of prison was about 10yrs ago and it was over crowded then. I see nothing has changed
There is always the capital punishment option without the 20 year wait of course.
Most of these prisons are just 3 star hotels with a few extra guards so maybe just build actual prisons that punish those that commit crimes. Prisoners can still get hold of drugs and mobile phones and pretty much whatever they like so obviously there is alot wrong with the current system.
The system of law needs to change before anything else.
Over 10.000 foreign prisoners in our prisons absolute madness.
Full of whom though thats the important question?
Don't want to end up in prison? Don't be a criminal
The country is run by criminals. Grow up.
@mimo.1467 fair enough, you're right
@mimo.1467Without conviction?
party of Law & Order my a**
Starmer locked them up; Sunak/Tories releasing them
False. Starmer refuses to prosecute criminals and intended to gift Hamas terrorists immunity.
There are a number of European countries that currently have empty jail space. This includes Ireland, Malta, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Spain, Germany and Poland. Surely the Labour Government could conrtact with these countries to accept the overflow from UK prisons. This would be vastly cheaper than trying to construct and staff newly built prisons. In the Baltic states there is enough empty capacity to lease an entire prison complex. Move the local inmates out and possibly run the leased prison complex with UK prison guards. Don't think Kigali, Rwanda; think riga, Latvia!!
Labour believe in prison, prison, prison the conservatives believe in rehabilitation, rehabilitation, rehabilitation. Your sentence depends on which local council presides over the court. Due to COVID I could not be tried in Peterborough I had to be heard in Cambridge under Peterborough guidelines. I got probation
Build more prisons, simple.
@Abs1919-sn5rs what you don't think the UK has money? You'd be a fool to think the UK doesn't have the resources. Wake up.
@@Shads187You are fully asleep. We don't, tax payers foot the bill or else inflation would occur, as tax payers don't have it inflation occurs anyway and we suffer even more
Why don't they adopt the successful crime reducing El Salvador model????????
Stupid comment.
Britain is sinking....
Dude could back the late 70s and early 80s
It's cultural enrichment, bigot.
Know nothing about him but Sir Bob Neill MP seems like a top guy, I wish more people in British politics were like him.
I'm onto you Bob and your fake account!
And still we don't legalise weed. Imagine how many people are in prison because of it.
We get it, you're 16 and your mum don't know you smoke weed yet. You're so gangster
Don't want it legalised, tories will tax us to death on it and make it weak!
@@BezoomyKoshka-ip4dzas a 26yr old who pays thousands in taxs a year to a goverment who would lock me up for smoking a bit of weed then go home and crack open a bottle of chemicals to drink I fully agree with that guy. The most hypocritical, idiotic law this country has seen in decades. A law designed by clueless, racist idiots to lock up an entire race. And in 2024 its still being used to justify stop and searches. It's criminal.
Now Starmer is going to release 40,000 prisoners.
Have the prisoner’s build new wings….
Seriously, as UK citizen currently not living in the UK it looks like EVERYTHING is underfunded:
NHS, Prisons, police, social services
Everyone pays high taxes, so where is all the money going?!
That's what we keep asking! Paying private business huge fees for services that aren't delivered...my local hospital has cut back on really basic necessities because of costs, drugs, equipment, slings, crutches and the little plastic catheters they put in the back of your hand in a&e to administer drugs &drips... guess how much the tiny plastic things cost the NHS?? £20!! Each! For tiny plastic made for pennies. That's where tax payers money goes. So, which member of the Tory party is a director of the company that got that deal then?
And we send money to Ukraine , ffs
What really strikes me is the contrast in how, amidst all these controversies, the Tories are vigorously pursuing legal actions to prosecute and imprison environmental activists from groups like Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion. It feels quite dystopian.
Fair play it only took the new Labour government 1 week to decide to release prisoners early. Glad to know we’ll have thousands of criminals loose on our streets hurting innocent people again.
The Home Office can just recommend less prison sentences are imposed.
We need more prisons. Build more prisons, up the capacity of the system
No😂
Too expensive and already don't have enough staff!
We have over 12,000 prisoners on recall , most for silly reasons like not attending a probation meeting on time, review and release, there are 8,000 that are on a awful sentence called a IPP and have served their time multiple times, review and release, there are over 10,000 foreign nationals who could be sent back home, review and deport.
Crown Court should understand that whoever doesn’t have criminal records and it’s a small offence shouldn’t go to prison at no reason … they are many people that make mistakes
For any reason and it’s not fair to full the prison with that punishment mentality of whoever commit a crime have to pay …
Let the unelected none domicides wife talk lol
On its knees praying to Alan’s Snackbar? The answer’s obvious!🤨
Sorry if I sound stupid, but what’s an Alan’s Snackbar? Hear that a lot in comments sections on news channels.
@@throwawaythrowaway9764 It ‘sounds like’ a phrase shouted in another language when a culturally diverse type comes at you with a pointy thing in malice for example.
Deport
They just proved to them selfs the whole country is a joke.
Legalise cannabis ya tools 🙂↕️
You'd have thought that given Police are the worst offenders and they now have body cams that they'd actually be able to convict them quicker.
Same problem in Belgium, so it's not just a UK thing
Not only overcrowded but also underfunded and damaged by the way they operate on a failed bottom line of course....
It's Labour's fault, why we are in this position in the first place with the ipp.
That's only about 2500 people, so your statement makes no sense
@@techtinkerin obviously you have no clue what damage that ipp Sentence has done.
So your comment is floored.
Half the people are in for stalking ex s in jail its crazy . 😂😂
Where are the prisoner's going to be housed? We have a halfway house down the road and there's more unease amongst people living here, because the released walk around drinking all day, smoking weed etc. There's no help for them, so they'll reoffend.
We need More Prisons. Far More.
Or maybe any crime that isn't harming others (physically or financially) should be fines and rehabilitation courses rather than prison. I mean why are we sending 18yr olds to prison over a bit of weed in 2024. Why are people going to prison for litterally just being annoying. Why are mentally ill people being chucked into cells with no psychological help?
Will they be tagged, and reporting to local police.
STALKERS DO YOU HEAR ITS ILLEGAL TO STALK PEOPLE
Bunch of clowns…watching them MPs is giving me flash back to the play ground days
We had early release thing back in the day that didn’t last long 😂😂😂
We got plenty of room in are privately run American prisons, for all of our mentally ill and criminal newcomers. Be warned. It's going down right now.
Well when you make life harder the prisons tend to fill up
Build prisons then!?
We need a system like the USA. They accept prison space is limited and justice has a financial limit.. The DA’s have to manage those limited resources. That’s why they offer plea bargains.
A court case might bring a 5 year sentence. But if you don’t go to court they will offer 3 years instead. That’s saves the cost of a trial and two years imprisonment.
Rishi makes me sick
Full Prison time or chance of redemption in the military for those willing to show change
Prison should be on its knees and not a 5* hotel. Stupid title
"everything is on its knees" these days...
Hope they leave room for those who pushed the vaxinations.
As if that will ever reach trial.
The same people that took a video recording of me working out in a park and saying, "You shouldn't be here, mate. You're spreading it."
Starmer refused to prosecute Saville. Says it all
BBC Reality Check has examined the claim that Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile when he was director of public prosecutions (DPP) and has found no evidence that Sir Keir was involved at any point in the decision not to charge Savile.
Your comment says all we need to know about you
Rishi sunak doesn't care about the publics safety
Everything is sinking down and forget for better days because this is end times only goes worse
Why didn't Rishi have access to the same report that Starmer used so well in PMQ's today? The report is available for all MP's to see. What's the use of civil servants and researchers and advisors (with or without rainbow lanyards) if everybody isn't on the same page? Are these people running the country or what? I could do better than this and I'm a lazy so-and-so...
If that video is anything to go by, it’s the screws that are on their knees.
foreign prisoners, which are likely increasing in numbers yr on yr. should be sent to Rwanda and have passports removed..
Honestly this country is a joke
Anyone seen the film Fortress, could be a good idea, prison underground or in space. Plenty of space.
😂😂😂now labour wants to release 40,000
Lol when this aged well. Amazing the concerns of Starma on early releases on violent criminals, now its him who will be releasing these said prisoners to make room for those saying 'naughty words'and upsetting others online 😅😅
Kier we heard about early leavers
This is karma
Prison in Rwanda?
you know what would be nice, if there narcissist who are on these benches can just stand up and say you sorry we have made mistakes ! lets get together and fix it ...
And what is labour going to. F all .
Far more than the Tories ever have
Bobble heads
They are not s threat, yet they have just done a prison term 😂
The thing about the court and prison system is that someone everyday is being sent to prison and they can make more space but it doesn't matter because there is more of us as people then prison cell and its only getting worser specialy as wii ara getting more people from different countries on boats that doesn't help 😀
Build new prisons. Now!
Is that the answer? They've just finished HMP Wellingborough...but we still have a problem.
Better to stop importing criminals.
Prison isn't that bad at all i have Been ones before and i was surprised how easy it was you get giveing vape pens when you get to the front door of a prison and fresh clothes and you get a tv in your cell and 3 hot meals a day its just like being at home the only thing is that your locked up that all 😀
They'll be in the army soon enough, straight to Ukraine
Breakshit means Breakshit
Vote Labour
Resign rishi
So how are you going to imprison the working class people of the UK then? Hmm? How are you going to achieve that miracle? 🤣🤣🤣
therea some prisoner on his nees for spice right now lol
Send our tax to Ukraine n Israel