Justice League Flash Vs. Reverse Flash Fight Scene Injustice 2

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  • @arnavpatil2807
    @arnavpatil2807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5000

    "Eobard thawne? You don't belong here"
    Dude, he literally doesn't belong anywhere

    • @maxs9062
      @maxs9062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +382

      “And miss the return of Berry Allen?”
      Flash-point paradox

    • @lightheart5
      @lightheart5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      He belongs in the future

    • @aidanmcdonough3314
      @aidanmcdonough3314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +360

      @@lightheart5 no actually he really doesn’t belong anywhere, he’s literally a walking paradox.

    • @benparsons4979
      @benparsons4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@aidanmcdonough3314 how so?

    • @Tidepod_Prince
      @Tidepod_Prince 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@benparsons4979 he’s inserted himself in so many different points in times that it’s literally impossible to put him down for good, kill him one day and maybe a week later he’ll pop up again. Like the other guy said, he a living paradox dude just doesn’t die lol

  • @brunowillich1837
    @brunowillich1837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2520

    Thawne on flashpoint: I like what you've done with the place.
    Thawne on injustice: This timeline,is all wrong.
    That's how fucked up the injustice timeline is.

    • @ravivik3378
      @ravivik3378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      True

    • @CleaningCaptain
      @CleaningCaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

      I think Thawne only cares about that because the problems with the timeline are affecting him personally; Otherwise, he wouldn't give a fuck.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@CleaningCaptain but I thought he already was a paradox hell in flashpoint he went to a new universe even though he died in flashpoint well he didn’t die it’s a bit confusing

    • @kentinson1670
      @kentinson1670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      @@Deathmare235 Thawne is a "paradox" because he's been time travelling everywhere. If you kill him in the present, a version of him either from the past or future will appear again because in Thawne's own words: "the more you time travel, the less the rules apply to you."
      Edit for spelling

    • @Lanesra62905
      @Lanesra62905 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *Savitar

  • @dariusalexander8985
    @dariusalexander8985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2380

    "Grodd said you couldn't resist a good crisis." Love that line.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I understood that reference in the line

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      you could say he has one of every earth. Infinite Earths, in fact.

    • @Alex-xt2gn
      @Alex-xt2gn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@kanyerahming Okay Steve Rodgers. 🙄

  • @antonioro1229
    @antonioro1229 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1602

    Remember the first girl you kissed?
    IT WAS MEEE BARRY!!! I WAS THAT GIRL
    And Do you remember when the pizza guy came and the pizza was cold
    IT WAS ME ALL ALONG BARRY
    AND DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE ABOUT TO MARRY IRIS
    IT WAS ME BARRY!!! I WAS IRIS

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      "remember when you were eight years old Barry? you heard a noise and went to see only to fall down the stairs. You didnt fall. I pushed you. I was the monster under your bed. I was the bump in the night. I hate you, Barry Allen. Now die!"

    • @spermgamer8573
      @spermgamer8573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      The is the new KONO DIO DA

    • @dishanmudhoo3719
      @dishanmudhoo3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Never gets old

    • @virgilio7464
      @virgilio7464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thats scary af ngl

    • @notnero5280
      @notnero5280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AzguardMike lmfao

  • @dereklopez8285
    @dereklopez8285 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4884

    Even though reverse flash is evil you got to admit his suit is pretty badass

    • @dixoncider2864
      @dixoncider2864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Derek Lopez ye

    • @Littleton3513
      @Littleton3513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +404

      The reverse flash himself is a Badass

    • @alexandersveryown4760
      @alexandersveryown4760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      His whole character is pretty badass

    • @coronacreator2856
      @coronacreator2856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Yeah, him being evil is what makes the suit so bad ass....

    • @OmegaGamer707
      @OmegaGamer707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I wish we could get his gear

  • @jacobgard9404
    @jacobgard9404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2506

    "Why did you kill my mother?"
    "Because I hate you"

    • @Joeytheg7
      @Joeytheg7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Wow

    • @raspberrycrowns9494
      @raspberrycrowns9494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      perfectly reasonable

    • @courier6640
      @courier6640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      His full name is Eobard "Eric Cartman" Thawne. Killing a parent out of spite is so South Park.

    • @plazyruup3607
      @plazyruup3607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the next guy its a quote from the show

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      quote from flash comic "Remember that time you were eight, Barry. You heard a noise downstairs, you went to see what it was and you fell down the stairs. You didnt fall. I pushed you. I was the monster under your bed, everything that went bump in the night. I hate you Barry Allen. Now die!"

  • @LolSpecLol
    @LolSpecLol 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4192

    "Your regime buddies killed one of my ancestors, now I'm trapped in a paradox!"
    EDDIE NOOOOOOOOO!

    • @bastienb.7985
      @bastienb.7985 7 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      lol i had the same reaction ^^

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 7 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      LolSpecLol dammit Barry

    • @antimemesboi1654
      @antimemesboi1654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Ikr

    • @omarkarim2280
      @omarkarim2280 7 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      One of the only things I liked that the show changed. But I’m pretty sure they meant Cobalt Blue in this case... But still..
      NOO EDDIE!!!! NOT AGAIN!

    • @AllPRAIZE
      @AllPRAIZE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      😁Eddie can live for nothing

  • @talisluli7315
    @talisluli7315 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4571

    Guys the reason deadshot hit Barry is simple. Aimbot

    • @selvina3887
      @selvina3887 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Talis Luli which version?

    • @dattroll9113
      @dattroll9113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Selvin Alegria Unfair aimbot

    • @phungo1658
      @phungo1658 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Danm his xbox gun has auto aimbot

    • @tristanwalker3724
      @tristanwalker3724 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      no deadshot just meter burned a fullscreen combo. fuckin spammers i swear

    • @toastalicious7500
      @toastalicious7500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO

  • @StrikeU
    @StrikeU 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1785

    I love how Captain Cold is voiced by Reverse Flash from the Flashpoint movie.

  • @Kwipper
    @Kwipper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7430

    Ketchup vs Mustard. The ultimate battle!

  • @aceyspud551
    @aceyspud551 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1212

    I was expecting comments about Flash and Reverse Flash, not about Flash getting shot.

  • @Cheeks730
    @Cheeks730 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3910

    Holy shit the flash and reverse flash chase/fight scene in the highway was incredible. DCU pay attention you might learn something.

    • @Cheeks730
      @Cheeks730 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      I thought it was DCU but yes i did

    • @katerinakala5049
      @katerinakala5049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      PapiDarko Incredible?Did you see that the cars don't have a driver?Ahaha good graphics

    • @xxxxtentaclesooo6808
      @xxxxtentaclesooo6808 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Dennis Aktipis look closely on the first hit hands go up in the car....

    • @carltonbacon3448
      @carltonbacon3448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The DCEU has a flash that actually is fast and has better effects YOU need to learn something not them

    • @JacobBen94
      @JacobBen94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PapiDarko it was incredible ? 🤔 how? 🤔

  • @TheSmokingSkull
    @TheSmokingSkull 7 ปีที่แล้ว +926

    Everyone is like "Are you kidding me? Deadshot actually hits his targets?"
    If Deadshot was portrayed as super-accurate like the comics, where he is literally the mercenary who *never misses*, people say he is OP. If the game had DS miss the Flash, who stated in the game that he was out of practice and running much slower than usual, then people would say DS is being nerfed.

    • @loltrqll
      @loltrqll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The only person he has ever missed was Batman

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@loltrqll
      Hell fun fact, he didn't even wanna kill Batman he was always holding back

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@loltrqll
      1 year later but he could hit Batman if he wanted to
      Deadshot holds back against Batman.

    • @scoobysnak07
      @scoobysnak07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The issue is not shooting him, it the way he aimed at him and not several miles ahead where Flash would be by the time Deadshot pulled the trigger.

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@l0sts0ul89 how do you "hold back" while shooting?

  • @verdethestarwarrior1088
    @verdethestarwarrior1088 7 ปีที่แล้ว +942

    "Oh, I'm nothing like the Flash. Some would say I'm the Reverse."

    • @samlung2724
      @samlung2724 6 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      "Oh, I'm nothing like the Reverse. Some would say I'm the Flash."
      -Flash Reverse

    • @kaylendunigan2964
      @kaylendunigan2964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Alright Harrison well

    • @lordsluggg
      @lordsluggg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      not like the flash at all*

    • @destroyerblackdragon
      @destroyerblackdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Slow?

    • @trustmeimthedoctor5749
      @trustmeimthedoctor5749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@samlung2724 You mean Reverse-Reverse-Flash 😂

  • @Kaurdi
    @Kaurdi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    "Honey those two speedsters in skin tight clothing are fighting on the highway again"
    "Just stay in the car don't call the police or anything, they'll go away soon.."

  • @realanimegirl777
    @realanimegirl777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4427

    The Fastest Speedster is the Cameraman. Duh.

    • @klegthepleb1687
      @klegthepleb1687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Frokyo thats a taken comment Right

    • @moviesonicthehedgehog349
      @moviesonicthehedgehog349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@klegthepleb1687 yep

    • @camerongoltz5578
      @camerongoltz5578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Frokyo you mean dead shot? He was keeping up with flash

    • @GamerVincent
      @GamerVincent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr

    • @chimichanga269
      @chimichanga269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Big Momentum no he wasn’t deadshot shot him then didn’t have to go very far and while captain cold and flash were fighting he was probably on his way there

  • @TheSerbianEmperor
    @TheSerbianEmperor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1148

    Are people really complaining about Deadshot shooting Flash ? Really ?
    In a fighting game in which Flash never uses his fucking powers when fighting hand to hand with someone else, except for his special move, In a game where Harley can beat up Darkseid, In a game where every single character can best Superman in one on one combat, the thing that get's on peoples nerves is the fact that the best shot in DC universe shot the fastest man alive ?
    That's one of the most believable things that happens in the entire game !

    • @tipology
      @tipology 7 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Thank you. Like so many people are so upset to the point where I dont think they know who deadshot is..

    • @Fly_Silver
      @Fly_Silver 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      harley still beats darkseid... QueenPeen

    • @leradmuiel7634
      @leradmuiel7634 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh and here's the "it's just a game bro" you guys are coming outta wood works lately

    • @jimpadgett8233
      @jimpadgett8233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also Superman is weak AF in this game, which is realistic

    • @drakoqwan3147
      @drakoqwan3147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Lucimyr in the comics they took pills to hang with people like superman or gods for that matter.

  • @rajchowdhury5547
    @rajchowdhury5547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    "If batman thinks you have earned a second chance, who are you to argue ?" Best.

    • @susikssarvesh6436
      @susikssarvesh6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why he is most iconic and badass hero in fiction

    • @theincrediblehulk5797
      @theincrediblehulk5797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BATMAN BATMAN ITS ALWAYS ABOUT BATMAN

    • @ethanmandengue3870
      @ethanmandengue3870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@theincrediblehulk5797 Calm down, Jason.

    • @hellblazer-_-
      @hellblazer-_- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ethanmandengue3870 lol.

  • @thegrimcritic5494
    @thegrimcritic5494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    God, Tallisin and O’Brien pull such great performances. Especially Tallisin. I’d never heard his voice work outside of Critical Role. But here, I don’t even recognize the man. Shows he’s got some VA chops when all I hear is Barry Allen instead of Tallisin Jaffe playing Barry Allen.

    • @samuelstensgaard4828
      @samuelstensgaard4828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Tal always surprises me with how youthful he sounds in a lot of his roles.

    • @KhaosTy
      @KhaosTy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I know! I'm just sitting here waiting for them to start calling each other Caleb and Caduceus.

    • @enwarrior8163
      @enwarrior8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Taliesin and O'Brien are amazing.

    • @enwarrior8163
      @enwarrior8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KhaosTy how about Caleb and Molly?

    • @declanmorden
      @declanmorden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He’s legit one of my favorite VAs for Barry. Liam did great in this but C Thomas Howell did such a good job as Thawne in the flashpoint paradox movie I can’t imagine anyone else for Thawne but him.

  • @popculturenerdyt7572
    @popculturenerdyt7572 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Imagine a flash show with fights like this, good writing and a hefty budget. One could only dream

    • @johncenator3146
      @johncenator3146 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It always confuses me as to why tv shows and movies can't learn from the animated series and video game movies, then I realised that it's these stupid corporations with useless people that purposely prevent free thought and good story writing, so what ends up happening is a massive budget, lots of wasted money on areas that don't matter, and bad casting of actors, the result is a cesspit of wokeist, over committed, underwhelming piece of crap that no one wants to watch

  • @eddie2000ad
    @eddie2000ad 7 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    the fight between berry and thawne is fucking amazing

  • @nemzy3347
    @nemzy3347 7 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    I don't know why reverse flash didn't get his own super move and multiverse ending he was actually part of the story unlike jay Garrick

    • @TonyBolognaJr
      @TonyBolognaJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Nemzy They would have to make a new character

    • @reverseflashes
      @reverseflashes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

    • @Survivor144
      @Survivor144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His super move would be like flash's.

    • @FallenOne669
      @FallenOne669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TonyBolognaJr They did that with Shazam and Black Adam in the first game.

    • @TonyBolognaJr
      @TonyBolognaJr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FallenOne669 right I forgot about that

  • @TheSerbianEmperor
    @TheSerbianEmperor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +753

    Watching the fight between the Flash and the Reverse Flash in 2x speed is much fucking cooler !

  • @alexmejia3186
    @alexmejia3186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Remember when you were making out with your first girlfriend...

    • @haikkalarista
      @haikkalarista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It was me Barry...

    • @Knightfall1012
      @Knightfall1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      And you came just as she touched your leg...

    • @dangermax2888
      @dangermax2888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It was me barry I drift you at super speed so you thought you did have The woman’s touch

    • @smokeymcbongwater
      @smokeymcbongwater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dangermax2888 imagine doing that at super speed

    • @dangermax2888
      @dangermax2888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doing what at super speed?

  • @pattananninja
    @pattananninja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Actually in 5:04 - 5:08 is a good detail in both Flash hands. In Barry’s open palm while running expresses like he’s doing his full speed to escape something. And Eobard’s closed fists while running expresses his intention of trying to chase by his full intention.

    • @A.jmmmm04
      @A.jmmmm04 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or maybe he's REVERSE FLASH and he closes his fist while Barry opens them to run? Its that simple

    • @toby5314
      @toby5314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@A.jmmmm04no his explanation makes way more sense than what your saying 💀

  • @Wally_West
    @Wally_West 7 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    _"Reverse Flash fact: you're dead."_

    • @techtonic9100
      @techtonic9100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Carba “Gentleman i hate to inform you....but your all your all dead.”

    • @GamerVincent
      @GamerVincent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol the flash season 5 XD

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techtonic9100 Yeah, that

  • @illusionarytactic
    @illusionarytactic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    man i sure feel bad for insurance companies in these universes

    • @solvemproblerstudios5889
      @solvemproblerstudios5889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol, I love how in BVS Metropolis is entirely rebuilt after the invasion 3 years earlier, and then in justice league it’s fine too. Worlds greatest insurance!

    • @sasasa1541
      @sasasa1541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think the construction workers mind. Fat checks all around

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like at this point superhero protection is included in insurance plans (I wanna say there was something about that in DC comics, but I could be wrong).

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solvemproblerstudios5889 well, fast reconstruction has nothing to do with good insurance. More to do with good infrastructure, systems in place, workers, and technology to speed up construction. You can see this in the real world with countries like Japan. Japan is in the ring of fire and prone to earthquakes and tsunamis. The worst doesn't happen everyday, but they have learned to rebuild and get back to their lives fairly quickly. They also build buildings initially with earthquakes in mind and know how to evacuate. The same goes with hurricanes on the coast of the U.S. As long as you have the resources, experience, and protocols to deal with big disasters, they don't take that long to recover from. Alternatively, it's when an area's hit with an unexpected disaster that it takes a while to recover from. At this point, I expect people living in DC are more than used to super battles destroying everything.

  • @Alassandros
    @Alassandros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    "How fast can you get to Metropolis?"
    Well, he can run faster than light (light can travel around the world 8 times in a single second) so the answer is... instantly.

    • @Squakkergrabben
      @Squakkergrabben 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Alassandros you might want to double-check on your math there

    • @Alassandros
      @Alassandros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Rafael Okay, here's my math:
      Light travels at about 670 million miles per hour in a vacuum.
      It's safe to assume lightspeed on Earth is in that ballpark.
      The Earth's equator is roughly just under 25 thousand miles around.
      670,000,000 (speed of light in mph) ÷ 25,0000 (generous estimate rounded up of Earth's equator) = about 26, 800 laps around the Earth in an hours, give or take.
      Let find out how many laps per minute that is,
      26, 800 (laps around Earth in an hour) ÷ 60 (minutes in an hour) = about 447 laps a minute
      Now again in seconds,
      447 laps around Earth per minute ÷ 60 seconds in a minute = about 7.5 laps around Earth per second.
      So yes, I was off a little. He still could reach Metropolis virtually instantly from anywhere on the planet.

    • @TheMrCHELL
      @TheMrCHELL 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Alassandros Now do some math again and explay how Dead Shot did hit Flash. LOL 😂

    • @Marcelo-fp3sy
      @Marcelo-fp3sy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alassandros One problem though. He wasn't exactly traveling at the speed of light

    • @Alassandros
      @Alassandros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Marcelo Navarro I realize that however she asked him about how fast he could get to Metropolis. If he CAN run at lightspeed then he CAN get there instantly. I merely commented on possibility, not actuality.

  • @game-tuber5083
    @game-tuber5083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The Speedster chase gives me chills. I love it.

  • @trollzverse605
    @trollzverse605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    5:00 Me running from my responsibility's

    • @TheBioZombie
      @TheBioZombie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Dad?

    • @axelpr2953
      @axelpr2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hehe ehhhh...

    • @lightheart5
      @lightheart5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holland from Eureka 7😒

  • @neo1343
    @neo1343 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1388

    think captain cold was voiced by flashpoint Eobard Thawne

    • @thots_and_prayers5253
      @thots_and_prayers5253 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Nick Jim yeah it sounds just like him!

    • @adamisajoker
      @adamisajoker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Hypercrisis confirmed.

    • @ike7708
      @ike7708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Storianxion really that's dope

    • @nathank8405
      @nathank8405 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nick Jim think not

    • @Mr1995Fabio
      @Mr1995Fabio 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      nope he has the voice of James Arnold Taylor aka Tidus of FFX

  • @vince52271
    @vince52271 7 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    I just realized the cars are driving themselves 🤔

    • @lugit36
      @lugit36 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Vincent Maliga Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @angelmm8249
      @angelmm8249 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @kaylendunigan2964
      @kaylendunigan2964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      No u can see when thawne is kicked into the second car a hand and arm in the window. But all the other cars are transformers

    • @Exrevenant
      @Exrevenant 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm interesting observation...🤔🤔🤔

    • @bogdanfriend
      @bogdanfriend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      at 5:09 u can see people in cars

  • @shauntoreno8698
    @shauntoreno8698 7 ปีที่แล้ว +817

    on my mind im just thinking it would make sense reverse flash would be the opposite of the Real flash reverse would just be extremely slow

    • @quantum6196
      @quantum6196 7 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Shaun Toreno Well comic book professor zoom slows down time when he runs. Since he has negative speed force.

    • @pyxl666
      @pyxl666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      No, Eobard has a link to the speedforce like Barry but he draws from the negative charge of electricity rather than the positive like Barry. Zoom (aka Hunter Zolomon) is the one who has the ability to slow down time around him and move around at a normal pace, giving everyone around him the illusion that he is moving at super speeds. Kinda like The Turtle from the CW Flash show, but instead of releasing pulses that slow time, he can just do it at will.
      Zoom's powers are totally different than that of Reverse-Flash's. Eobard only took that mantle because A.) the timeline dictated it when he first learned of his destiny and B.) his color scheme is flipped with Barry's.

    • @nathank8405
      @nathank8405 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Shaun Toreno Reverse in terms of costume, motion, and power which is negative

    • @FleyBlademode
      @FleyBlademode 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah the Turtle is like super op ...

    • @Bren_tendo
      @Bren_tendo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And super dead

  • @BF-dv9zt
    @BF-dv9zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    4:28 still gotta be one of the greatest punches along with a coolest line I've ever heard.

  • @rockerstreet8743
    @rockerstreet8743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    They re supposed to make DC movie like this, look how they screwed up on Flash in justice league

    • @roxle9905
      @roxle9905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the animated series instead

    • @theflash9735
      @theflash9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the great show instead!

    • @NovusMoxxy
      @NovusMoxxy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roxle9905 i like the animated one and the cw one

    • @HELLO_KORO
      @HELLO_KORO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DCEU Barry is more like Wally and Bart than he is Barry

    • @Neyodip
      @Neyodip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HELLO_KORO in the Snyder cut Barry is good

  • @Avenger65100
    @Avenger65100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    4:28
    I hope the DCEU would learn from this fight scene and the CW Flash show on how to do a speedster fight

    • @isabelh5561
      @isabelh5561 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Watch the first Flash vs Zoom fight again. CW Flash fight scenes are 10x better than this. Heck, the Flashpoint animated film had better fight choreography.

    • @stellarremnant3597
      @stellarremnant3597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Kyree Anderson
      CW Flash scenes are way better. This just looks like an aggressive game of tag

    • @Avenger65100
      @Avenger65100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jalan Kelley I know...I just hoping ✌️

    • @stellarremnant3597
      @stellarremnant3597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Adler Charles
      The Flash's fights with
      Reverse Flash in season 1
      His last few fights with Zoom in season 2
      His fights with the Rival in season 3
      And his fight with Savitar after Savitar escaped the speed force

    • @shinjiikari7804
      @shinjiikari7804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Isabel H Better? CW fight scenes show me normal people fighting with a shit ton of slow motion. All they do is just put lightning on their punches and doesn't show me how speedsters truly fight.

  • @rcbmmines4579
    @rcbmmines4579 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man it sucks that the movie didn’t even try to give us a speedster vs speedster fight.

  • @tmaziriri
    @tmaziriri 7 ปีที่แล้ว +895

    The CW, this is how you do a speedstar fight!

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Twimbo CW’s are way better.

    • @meeatyouup5057
      @meeatyouup5057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      cws are better though

    • @TheFlash-dr1kr
      @TheFlash-dr1kr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Me Eat You Up nah

    • @Tykostr
      @Tykostr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      They do the same bullshit run up and down a building with streaks

    • @BlinkingEldrichRoses
      @BlinkingEldrichRoses 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      space ghost on one coast in crisis on earth X they at least made the fight between Barry and Eubarth look interesting

  • @tadeoescudero9341
    @tadeoescudero9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Reverse Flash most trilling quote: Remember when you were making out with your first girlfriend....

  • @marcusguevara4261
    @marcusguevara4261 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This 8 minute video is more flash than the entire cw show 😂

  • @ImpossibleIsNothin
    @ImpossibleIsNothin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I really hope the DCEU uses high speed action sequences like this scene here, and not just slow motion sequences (like Quicksilver's "Time in a Bottle" scene from Xmen) for speedsters.

  • @TheParanormalist0601
    @TheParanormalist0601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I love their rivalry so much! Reverse-Flash is one of my all time favourite DC villains, along with the Riddler, Joker, Lex Luthor, Deathstroke, Black Manta, Vandal Savage, Amanda Waller, Black Adam and Darkseid.

    • @reverseflashes
      @reverseflashes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's so many villains lmao. Reverse Flash is definitely one of my favorites too.

    • @agentofchaos145
      @agentofchaos145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about redhood oh I forgot he is a anti hero thing

  • @blockbreaker8839
    @blockbreaker8839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    5:20
    This was actually expertly animated to show a real superspeed battle

    • @Thisiswhatmyhandleis
      @Thisiswhatmyhandleis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stupid that they’re punching each other at normal speed

    • @troblesomegentleman4438
      @troblesomegentleman4438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Thisiswhatmyhandleis Yeah. They should be just a red/yellow blur that just explode every window in a 3 km radius and destroy concrete.

  • @Kizz_97s
    @Kizz_97s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    When the video game is better than the movie😂😂

    • @TonyBolognaJr
      @TonyBolognaJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yo Woe When a show with a lower budget has a better fight than the movie with the higher budget

    • @danielhissi585
      @danielhissi585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo Woe ya watching the whole cutscenes is just awesome

    • @fr19ht
      @fr19ht 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imagine comparing video games to movies lmao

    • @Kizz_97s
      @Kizz_97s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FrightfulTM Cause DC movies aren’t that good Marvel is winning right now😂🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @fr19ht
      @fr19ht 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yo Woe Ok? Thats all Marvel literally has anything else is ass cheeks

  • @redrocket597
    @redrocket597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    5:19 “hey that’s my car!”
    - said the invisible person

  • @lloydchristian936
    @lloydchristian936 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1976

    I will forever call bullshit on the fact that dead shot could tag the flash like that. I don't care how good you are you should not be able to hit someone going faster then light
    (Edit) I know he's not moving at the speed of light but he's still moving pretty fast that even if deadshot managed to track him he still should have missed because deadshot was aiming at Barry not where Barry was going to be. They really could have choreographed this scene better in my opinion

    • @Linkmasterson
      @Linkmasterson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      You act like a game with super heroes is realistic. Who's to say deadshot doesnt have some fancy future tech in his helmet, or his bullet homes in on the spot he was originally aiming at?

    • @dinglebingus2625
      @dinglebingus2625 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Flash is faster than instant teleportation.

    • @chair9003
      @chair9003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      He clearly wasn't running anywhere near light speed when Deadshot shot him.

    • @Stavol2Dual
      @Stavol2Dual 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Writers can be autistic at times, please forgive them

    • @aquariuskudo
      @aquariuskudo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Deadshot can't hit Batman but he can shoot flash with ease. Logic.

  • @emmabowen8205
    @emmabowen8205 7 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Percy fighting Vax and Gilmore?? I thought they were friends lol

  • @jumpshot199
    @jumpshot199 7 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    ill solve the argument for everyone on here cause not everyone can be pleased. Its not exactly terrible writing, its more or less the writers ONLY choice. If the Flash's TRUE power that is represented in the comic books is used (whether its cartoons or video games) He would be one of the most overpowered characters. Flash technically can run faster than instant transmission. Even in TV shows the flash is significantly slower than anything that is actual canon to the character, simply cause it would make things too easy for him. Flash doesnt get enough credit, luckily his popularity is getting higher, but techincally hes one of the most powerful characters in the DC universe if his true power is accounted for. That being said, i think the writers couldve neutralized the flash in a little bit more of a creative way than to have Deadshot tag him. Deadshot never misses, but he never wouldve been able to see Flash realistically in his scope, even with nerfed speed.

    • @Kenoi_
      @Kenoi_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      jumpshot199 they do the same thing to green lantern which sucks

    • @kingclampz6081
      @kingclampz6081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      jumpshot199 don’t forget flash outran death

    • @pisces2569
      @pisces2569 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      STEPHANIE LURRY AND THE LARRIORS BLEW A 3-1 lead Wally outran death. Barry did not

    • @kingclampz6081
      @kingclampz6081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pisces yeah my bad bro Wally’s outran death and instant teleportation while both outran time and many more no one is faster than the flash from any universe which includes dc marvel and anime world

    • @mattypaul87
      @mattypaul87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Superman animated series addressed the difference between comics and tv show. If Superman was allowed to be as powerful as he was in the comics, there'd be no show because other than a few supervillains, no one would match Superman in power. He was heavily nerfed for the series.

  • @MegaGamer456
    @MegaGamer456 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    “And miss the return of barry allen?”
    Gets me every time

  • @QoQabai658
    @QoQabai658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I ❤ Eobard Thawne. He is the 'ultimate' crazed fan-boy.

  • @nostalgia2431
    @nostalgia2431 7 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    7:33 "But you should *the* trust *the* Guardians"?!

    • @1LuvMLPFiM
      @1LuvMLPFiM 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fail. lol

    • @montjay2509
      @montjay2509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nostalgia 2 but you should trust the ELDER GOD'S
      do that your favorite characters dies

    • @nostalgia2431
      @nostalgia2431 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Protocol_Nexus lol i was just commenting on the typo in the subtitles... whatever i wrote up there was in the subs and it was just wrong so yeah

    • @montjay2509
      @montjay2509 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't care about the subtitles atm cuz ima get the game this weekend after my zombie chronicles finish downloading

    • @nostalgia2431
      @nostalgia2431 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Protocol_Nexus alrite man have fun

  • @stranger342
    @stranger342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The mustard speak meme. He slapped flash in the back of his head which made me go "I LIKE YA CUT G"

  • @UWotM-ll5rv
    @UWotM-ll5rv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    you guys stop complaining about Deadshot shooting the flash he's been on retirement for like 3 years and this is deadshot were talking about,he never misses.

    • @TonyBolognaJr
      @TonyBolognaJr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U Wot M8 It’s called Aimbot

    • @FakeCaribou7230
      @FakeCaribou7230 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      but the flash i thought Barry can catch a bullet it doesnt make sense

    • @Death-bd1tl
      @Death-bd1tl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FakeCaribou7230 erm yeah he might be super fast but he cant sense a bullet being fired at him

  • @rachelknightonline
    @rachelknightonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It COULD have been an interesting mechanic for this game if every chapter you use a hero you retain damage until the chapter is over. So like in this case, you’re already wounded by Deadshot, so for the fights with Cold you start off at a disadvantage, then headed into the fight with Deadshot the damage is still there, and so on with the next two fights with Reverse Flash, and Green Lantern.
    It could’ve made for an interesting way to give the story an extra layer in regards to difficulty

  • @LarryXLR
    @LarryXLR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I'm going to make Barry Allen responsible for the consequences of my own actions. That will make him sorry for what he didn't do."
    -Reverse Flash

  • @alejandrovasquez4044
    @alejandrovasquez4044 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When one fight is better than the entire series on the cw

  • @robwong7206
    @robwong7206 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Flash (voiced by:Taliesin Jaffe) vs. Reverse Flash (voiced by Liam O'Brien): How Percy (Taliesin) and Vax (Liam) worked out their differences during Vox Machina's 1 year Time Jump. XD lol

    • @renzopinasco51
      @renzopinasco51 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did they do he voices really?

    • @rhodiumthunderbird
      @rhodiumthunderbird 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@renzopinasco51 Yep. Matt was Deadshot, and Laura was Supergirl. Travis also got in to voice Jay Garrick, the golden age Flash, in what I'm assuming was DLC.

  • @andremotivation6561
    @andremotivation6561 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    DC had one job..why could we get this on the big screen

    • @rcbmmines4579
      @rcbmmines4579 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Man, the CW show, Brave and the Bold, Flashpoint Paradox and Injustice 2 showed us how awesome speedster fights could be. Real missed opportunity for the movie not to do it.

  • @_LightningAnime
    @_LightningAnime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Guys, give the CW some credit. This is a game with months of work put into every cutscene. The flash is a week by week TV show that has weeks of work put into every fight out of a 20+ episode season. As awesome as this scene is (and it is freaking amazing) the CW does damn well for its budget.

  • @victorsahni2071
    @victorsahni2071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Best Flash vs Reverse Flash fight scene ever

  • @UnfixingMetal
    @UnfixingMetal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I thought Eobard's voice was familiar, then i realized it's Gaara

  • @SyleMusicDF
    @SyleMusicDF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just imagine how it’d feel to run +300mph, just have someone donkey punch you in the back of the head, sending you another 100ft further. 5:32

  • @spiritskyes
    @spiritskyes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    2:31 Mercer continues to be a ruthless DM.

  • @vincomv3545
    @vincomv3545 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    They could run faster with Naruto run style...

    • @discombobulatedecho6025
      @discombobulatedecho6025 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Vin Comp Reverse Flash is literally voiced by Gaara lmao

    • @preposteroustoast
      @preposteroustoast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh shit.

    • @moelester3807
      @moelester3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tf is naruto

    • @Retr05548
      @Retr05548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moe Lester stupid anime show. Nice name lol.

    • @impacc4182
      @impacc4182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Retr05548 naruto is known all over the world the flash is only known to western goblins like you relax

  • @0ttimo
    @0ttimo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    reverse flash’s design in this is so good ngl

  • @jedidiahross6463
    @jedidiahross6463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you try to tag the fastest person in the game: 4:47

  • @eduardocastelan9225
    @eduardocastelan9225 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BARRY Remember when your favorite character didn't appear on injustice 2? IT WAS ME BARRY I TOOK THE CHARACTER'S PLACE

  • @pugtie4695
    @pugtie4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:53 well I guess that's good Karma for killing his mom.

  • @Ssecave
    @Ssecave ปีที่แล้ว +2

    best fight scenes between them on the highway of every media out there. You have few slowmotion scenes but the rest is super fast. Wich is a great way to show how over-the-top they are.

  • @priyanshusaxena7157
    @priyanshusaxena7157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Run Barry, Run....
    Sends me chills.

  • @londondarby3725
    @londondarby3725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Notice no one are in the cars when Reverse Flash and Flash were fighting...

  • @jiroweiler5883
    @jiroweiler5883 7 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    What?! are you fucking kinding me?! Deadshot Shot the MOTHERFUCKING Flash....I CALL BULLSHIT!!! whats next? Harley Queen beating Parallax or Superman Prime in a 1v1

    • @jiroweiler5883
      @jiroweiler5883 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Oh wait so First Flash cant outrun bullets, but at 3:44 he can see the bullets in slow motion and dodge em....
      Now im actually interested in the game cant wait so what other bullshit its has

    • @tetragaming6332
      @tetragaming6332 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Jiro Weiler
      Flash admits that retirement has made him weaker. This also explains how reverse flash basically owned barry for most of the fight.

    • @dreal1kev
      @dreal1kev 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jiro Weiler YEAH because at 3:44 he could actually see the bullets. When deadshot shot him flash didn't know he was there. He could of heard it but considering he has gotten slower not that surprised he got hit.

    • @mr.astronaut4506
      @mr.astronaut4506 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He didn't see the bullet. Also, deadshot sniped him without Flash knowing it. Flash is no Daredevil.

    • @blazinghigh2560
      @blazinghigh2560 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jiro Weiler read a comic dude he never miss

  • @Metal-ge5hr
    @Metal-ge5hr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "And miss the Return of Barry Allen?" Nice reference

    • @blacksword220
      @blacksword220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so was the crisis bit, unless im reading to much into that

  • @cryophile
    @cryophile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man, Percy sure sounds weird in this clip.

  • @_aballa_
    @_aballa_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know if this sounds weird, but even though they were quick, I could feel the aggression in Reverse Flash's steps

  • @LysergicSigma
    @LysergicSigma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I came, I saw, I came again.

    • @kaylendunigan2964
      @kaylendunigan2964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So I️ guess u took Hal Jordan’s advice and CAME back later haha
      No? Okay

  • @christopherdawson6716
    @christopherdawson6716 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:00 Flash:Don't hurt m-Oh you ran off. Did green lantern scare u?

  • @notnero5280
    @notnero5280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    5:16 - 5:30 is more entertaining than any CW Flash fight.

  • @fernandobuenrostro525
    @fernandobuenrostro525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "So go back to your own time Reverse Fla- ARGH!"

    • @constellationsquid1993
      @constellationsquid1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Think I haven’t tried!? Your Regine buddies killed one of my ancestors! Now I’m trapped in a paradox, I can never go home.... but at least I CAN HURT YOU!!

    • @AzguardMike
      @AzguardMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      then go back in time and stop him.

  • @stan52323
    @stan52323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:55 The series should've had a run like that instead

  • @BK-sh2pn
    @BK-sh2pn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the dude who voice reverse flash in the Flashpoint movie voices captain cold in this

  • @RealStevenStifler
    @RealStevenStifler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Injustice 2 is awesome! What a story! 👍

  • @jonathanbethea8573
    @jonathanbethea8573 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Holy crap, Percival Fredrickstein Von Mussell Klowolski De Rollo III is the Flash. Huh...

  • @keithrobertbantug754
    @keithrobertbantug754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:30 Reverse Flash said this Timeline is all wrong. Knowing his character he would’ve hinted to Flash that Superman will turn evil so which means he had no idea about the Regime and the Timeline is not right to Reverse Flash Timeline. Foreshadowing for Injustice 3 storymode?

  • @salad9166
    @salad9166 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sonic: I'm the fastest thing alive!
    Flash: Hold my beer

  • @coltoneverett6936
    @coltoneverett6936 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:15 the sound effects are brilliant

  • @mariomaster98
    @mariomaster98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's a reason he's called Dead shot, but 1) the Flash wasn't running fast enough to be unseen and 2) he didnt notice the sniper bullet

  • @filmscorn1105
    @filmscorn1105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    4:12 thank me later......

  • @619hg
    @619hg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s how the flash supposed to run.

  • @tvmovieedits3377
    @tvmovieedits3377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Barry looks like Eddie Thawne from The Flash. Just noticed that

  • @TrueHey
    @TrueHey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has to be the 3rd time I've seen a "we are all dying get here as fast as you can" cutscene in a game

  • @Tradetek1
    @Tradetek1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    lol I understand it's a game and unrealistic but having them fighting and breaking cars seems odd people aren't making a big deal and are just calm about it

    • @johnat004
      @johnat004 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Stephen Nguyen like you said just a game 😌

    • @Tradetek1
      @Tradetek1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jay like I said it seems odd

    • @jd_gaming9044
      @jd_gaming9044 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes like he said jay

    • @MrRomanba
      @MrRomanba 7 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      I wouldn't leave the car if two guys, that can accidently kill you are fighting outside. Better sacrifice my car, not bones and life.

    • @huzaifatahir5738
      @huzaifatahir5738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      It's not that, they're moving at super speed so I highly doubt the people can see them

  • @dayswark
    @dayswark ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thats awesome, better than movie

  • @troncron2458
    @troncron2458 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's like Flash and Reverse Flash's battle never ends.

  • @AetherTheViator
    @AetherTheViator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love that sound 5:08

  • @ImaginaryNate
    @ImaginaryNate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:57 Deadshot saw the Arrow Season 1 finale when he stabbed Dark Archer through his own chest, and decided “I’m gonna take some notes.”

  • @hughjanus9489
    @hughjanus9489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:03 wish they bro hugged 😂

  • @HieiJaganshi2024
    @HieiJaganshi2024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When he said the regime killed one of his ancestors, could he have been talking about Eddie Thawne?

  • @tahrimrasheed1100
    @tahrimrasheed1100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its wild how a video could make a better flash movie

  • @porpus99
    @porpus99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Personally, i would have loved to have seen the Reverse Flash's redemption in the Injustice Universe. He once tried to be a hero like Flash, but was doomed by fate to become his greatest villain. Now fate has been twisted, his history destroyed. The writers could have written him to become so much more than just a pawn stuck by fates tricks, but a hero.