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Build at end of video.
Feel free to ask any questions, and I will try my best to answer.
6x3s with Warframes that are not Volt:
• Ember Solo 6x3: Echoes...
• Mirage Solo 6x3: Echoe...
• Gauss Solo 6x3: Echoes...
• Grendel Solo 6x3: Veil...
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How kind of Onkko to warn the Eidolon that the Tenno is having an energy spike and that the Eidolon needs to fall back!
I mean.... I'm IMPRESS, That instant limb destroy after the eidolon come up from water is insane.
What is that water limb?? dang
youd think after shrugging off the 3rd energy spike onkko would stop advising you to fall back
man this is so different from when i used to do hunts back in early deimos havent played since but wow this was so fast and clean
This is not "playing a game". This is Discipline. I dont understand so many things I seen in this video. Good job.
this is macro in video games
I don’t even play warframe wth did I just watch😭
A robot and their family getting their kneecaps stolen for profit
I read that "profit" like how Corpus see it as a religious thing. Brilliant comment.
the most wonderful gameplay ever
A psyonic teenager ruled bye his psychotronic mother trying to mantain balance in solar system bye killing evrything
A monster bro 😭
I thought Eidolon hunts were pretty much solved years ago when I last played the game.. If I hadn't seen this video I couldn't even have imagined how wrong I was.
Hunting became a lot easier after the focus changes a year ago. If we're talking before that, believe DE might've reduced their overall shields/health however many times due to them being a little too tanky.
@@Wrightrj I meant solved in a sense that people had figured out the most min-maxed efficient way to run them (which was the case at the time), but seeing this run and all the new mechanics and time saves was beyond impressive. It's amazing what some members of the community can come up with, given the time and the tools.
Your volt looks sick man
very impressive, good job
Great video, but I can't get over the 13 formas hahaha you sure changed you mind a couple of times
Practically every Volt build varies wildly from one to the next, to the point where you're better off having multiple Volts to reduce the hassle of having to reforma every time.
What a crazy water limb!
Just got into eidalon hunts seriously for the first time, im MR 20 lol and this right here is what i want to be able to do eventually, think my fastest run so far is 11 minutes 😅 getting better good video man ❤
Goodluck sir. I'd recommend learning to fast charge the lure like I did at 0:10, assuming you have not already learned it. Not having to wait on lures/voms is definitely the best area to save time in. Doesn't matter if you can't one shot shields/limbs.
@@Wrightrjwhere do I go to learn this
@@Mearzsy Trix's video has some good information on fast charging:
th-cam.com/video/2yJtdwjy7VE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8Yj1vw40sQRdUfh4&t=682
If you need help still, I can try my best to answer with any questions you have.
@@Wrightrj I’ll give that a watch tyvm!
Sir I bow to a skill far greater than my own 🥶
Kindly share you graphics, The plains look so clear. Mine are fogged up with dusk coz of new war quest
All graphics on low/off except for High shader quality.
@@Wrightrjoptmized or classic engine?
@@thebigzan Enhanced.
Dear god bro you tore them to shreds
how did you get 167% ability duration with a fleeting expertise + transient fortitude in your build based on your mod setup? is it through the helminth system? Also, what's your vermisplicer build setup? Parts?
Narrow minded gives +99% duration. Kitgun parts are: Vermi, ramble, splat. Helminth is eclipse, and you can see my shards at the end, all strength and one ability cast speed.
Godly run! Btw whats ur kitgun parts
Vermi, Ramble, Splat
Sometimes, I’m playing on public and I see people doing it in like 6-7 minutes and I wonder, what does it look like from their perspective? Well I guess I know now
Your volt fashion very cool. can you show your volt fashion?
I don't actually have Warframe installed anymore, so I can't give screenshots or colors, but here are the attachments:
Volt Arrester Helmet
Volt Graxx Skin
Piercing Eye Chest Armor
Ion Shoulder Armor
Maggor Towsun Leg Guards
Gloariana Ephemera
Sildarg Syndana
Also thanks. :)
I regret so much not picking the zenith over the other option during my last selection, but its okai, 60 days to go untill i can pick another one 😢 not just for edilon but i love running profit taker...
Yeah, it's definitely the best pick. Though it does suck to not have it in eidolon runs, it is really only used if you get the far underground eidolon spawn, everything else you can just use dual toxocyst. (This video is a bit outdated and you no longer need to use Zenith as much as I do in the video, unless you're going record speed)
I think modern profit taker speedruns also don't use Zenith either, right? Think some players just use Ogris with Nightwatch Napalm where the pylons are supposed to land.
@Wrightrj I have used orgris but it's not comfortable for me, zenith feels a lot better and more intuitive
May i ask, i keep seeing this propa + propa and then raplak with a cancel animation for primary weapon. What is the exact order of buttons for that if anyone knows? i have tried it on my own but i cant replicate it
I mean the cancel animation from raplak to primary
I personally used a macro for the swap between raplak to zenith. I am not too sure how to do it without a macro. My macro is not very well made and usually does not work for other people, so I do not want to hand it out anymore, unless you really want it.
If I am not using a macro, I usually just melee out of operator and left click immediately after, though that is not the correct method I believe.
I would recommend joining the eidolon hunt discord:
discord.gg/Bedgx9pK
and searching for "raplak zenith" or something similiar in the Discord search. There are a few different methods/macros that you'll find if you do a bit of digging.
Note, all of these use autohotkey, this is the preferred macro software that myself and most other people use.
2:42 what the hell did you do there?? Just teleports right infront of an Eidolon
macro, somehow DE wont banned these kind of players
Macro. Macro is checking for a certain shade of red that the shard has when it appears, once detected, macro then flies up in archwing, archwing blink, melee out of archwing, operator mode, propa shot, void strike, melee into warframe, look and shoot at eidolon shoulder. This can be done without macro, just a little bit slower and more skill required.
The eidolon's hurtbox is where it stops after it walks out of the water, which is where I drop my propa bomb. (This only applies to aoe damage though, like propa, not raplak)
@@Wrightrj Gosh damn that's some impressive stuff
@@Wrightrj do you specifically need the zenith to hit the shoulder underwater?
@@LimAu144 Yes, the shoulder starts underground which is where the zenith punch through comes in.
I love eidolons, honestly my favorite gamemode in the entire game with all the buff management and required synnergy. I do have a question, I've seen people use vermisplicer/toxocyst/knell not only for the final shot but also the synnovias. I adapted that and started using the toxocyst, I do have a vermi riven tho. Should I build it instead? For synnovias its sometimes a bit annoying to shoot for the head before, it's alright though. I think I'm losing the most time with poor lure management and dying to hydrolyst electricity
Glad you enjoy it :)
I'm a little out of the loop on what's meta currently; have personally never seen anyone use Toxocyst on eidolon, though don't see why not because it has high firerate and a good riven disposition. Would definitely not recommend using Toxocyst for limb breaks if you're solo, if you're duo, go for it though. Using a capshot weapon (like Vermi/Toxo/Knell) for limb breaks as a solo player is a bit of a meme, as you're just making it harder on yourself to save no time. I would stick with Zenith or Rubico for synovias just in general. Personally, I would go with Vermisplicer over Toxocyst, because I believe Vermisplicer has a faster fire rate (though I could be wrong), which would lead to slightly faster capshots (if that matters to you). Getting a nice capshot time should be the least of your worries though, as it saves practically no time throughout the run, it's just to make the hunt log look nice.
As far as I'm aware, Knell has been bugged awhile now and is the reason Vermisplicer is used instead. Headshotting the eidolon with Knell inconsistently activates it's infinite ammo perk.
If you're failing parts of the hunt such as lure management and hydrolyst electricity, I would not build Vermi, just keep Toxocyst. More important things to focus on.
@@Wrightrj so in short get good haha. Thanks a lot for your thorough and super quick answer on an almost year old video!
Im a veteran of 10 years with over 5K h playtime, I can solo tridolons myself but I take way longer so I kinda know how it’s supposed to work…
IM WATCHING THIS AT 0.5 SPEED AND I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND HALF THE SHIT GOING ON
2:42 HUHH WHAT?
2:42 I even thought he broke his shiel in while in warframe form, slow it down to x0.25
I dropped a propa bomb in the air before I swapped into my Warframe and started shooting. The eidolon's hurtbox for propa is where I dropped my propa at, so I am doing maximum damage with the propa. Then I swapped to zenith and started shooting where the eidolon's limb is.
@@Wrightrj yh I saw that but god did I have to do x0.25 speed xD.
I thought you where destroying the limbs with your amps primary or guiding the propa with the primary fire.
So you are just swaping to your primary to destroy the limbs after shield?
Also are you using the vastlok/melee at all to reduce armor ir any other function?
Also, any video for your amp and kitgun config?
@@antonioandre23 Am destroying limbs with only Zenith, sometimes raplak ends up breaking limbs by itself if I have void strike active. Vastilok only purpose is to armor strip. Amp is at end of video, kitgun is Vermi/ramble/splat
@@Wrightrj thanks 🙏
Eidolon farmers in context
How do you oneshot the synovias. my zenith and vermi seem kinda weak and i just lack rivens
Feel free to copy the build at the end of the video if you want to match my damage. It's just a lot of buff stacking, relay damage blessing, subsumed eclipse, shock trooper, some madurai buffs, etc. Eclipse is the most important for raw damage. Feel free to use arcane rage and vigorous swap if you're still not one shotting limbs.
To your unedited comment: I have a macro that instantly swaps from operator to zenith. There are some macros you could probably find floating around eidolon discords for this. For macroless, pretty sure all you need to do is melee and shoot as fast as you're able. That should move you back into your warframe and cancel the melee.
@@Wrightrj Thank you very much for your response. Beautiful run btw.
im stupid i need a video to understand how you break limb so fast, people say "press E" but when i do that i see my vastilok shooting not my zenith its so weird
From what I've heard, you want to do one quick melee before going into operator, (so your warframe is holding your melee, don't completely swap to your melee) and then after propa/raplak, you melee into warframe and spam your left click button to shoot. If fast, should cancel most of the melee animation. That's the sloppy way though, will probably result in like 200-400 milisecond limb breaks which isn't pretty.
I don't know how to properly quick swap without a macro either. There are methods to swap from raplak to shooting zenith in quick succession, without macro. I could give you an eidolon discord link if you would like to ask in there, they know more than me.
I have always just used a macro for instant swapping, even my macro isn't as optimized as possible, but it's good enough. What I used in the video:
i.gyazo.com/c873d1d1494ac3e1b4fde764dc7cfb85.png (Auto Hot Key) May need to mess around with it. Zero is agree emote.
Can use volt prime work the same guys?
Not entirely sure what you mean. This video is still outdated, but you can still use Volt Prime and my Volt Prime build at the end of the video should still be good to use (Aside from the shards)
2:40 wtf bruh?!?!
I swear, I had the same reaction as you
Hey, beautiful run.
I was wonderning why use gas on the vermi?
Also is there a place I can learn all this? A guide or a discord where you learned all this? So I can try to replicate. Not exactly for speed run purposes, just efficiency and so I can max my schools. I am LR2, so not exactly locked behind anything either.
Gas it due to using prime heated charge and vermisplicer having innate toxin. With my mod setup, I can't really get radiation on the vermi, and it woulden't matter much anyways because the eidolon is full stripped, thus losing the bonus damage from radiation damage. A 165% elemental mod is going to do more damage than any other 90% elemental mod.
I learned alot of what I know from this eidolon discord: discord.gg/zaHD35K3 and just asking around in general.
Lot of sweaty eidolon hunters and hunting discord ranks to strive for in that discord. People are generally pretty accepting and will answer almost any question you have about hunting.
@@Wrightrj Thank you so much for the reply, that does make sense now. I'm able to get radiation on my vermisplicer because my riven has heat on it. Do you think it's worth it to remove Primed Heated Charge and replace it with Primed Convulsion or it wouldn't make a difference anyways?
Also, thanks, I will join the Discord server you mentioned.
I wanted to ask, you deploy a crew mate or what? And what is their gear or level?
Also, I don't suppose there is a way to contact you through discord or something for more help? No pressure. Thanks!
@@3MKHAMOOD I'm not sure which elemental mod would do more at that point. I would just test the full build damage in simulacrum, see which is better. Just test on an armor stripped enemy that's weak to radiation. Or test on a teralyst during night.
I have a crew mate with a Zarr. I place them down during the teralyst down phase to break and collect voms into my lures, while I go off and collect the other 5 lures needed for the run. Crew mate stats don't matter.
A crew mate is not necessary, though it does make the run a little easier, as you don't have to collect lures between limb breaks.
My discord is: wrightrj, feel free to add me and I'll try and answer any questions I'm able.
Do you shoot limbs with vermisplicer or zenith, also after eclipse nerf is zenith still a viable weapon for all limbs or do you need dual tox/lex, etc.
Zenith is for water limb breaks, dual tox is for all other limb breaks. In the video, I shot all limbs with Zenith. This is pre-nerf eclipse. Zenith is no longer able to consistently one shot limbs, so dual tox is used instead. Vermi was used only for capshots in this video and should not be used on limbs due to its inconsistency at range. (tentacles target random parts of the eidolon)
im sorry but wtf happend at 2:43? how did you instantly just snap on the eidolon limb?
Macro that is moving my mouse about 1300 pixels to the right, 300 pixels down.
2:41 God damn
I always think my builds are strong and then people do stuff like this. I’ve never seen the limbs get one shot like that
Loved your video dude, can u say what do u do to shoot with your tenno and with your zenith at the same time ?
I used a macro. I'm not shooting at the same time, just swapping to operator to warframe and shooting quickly one after the other. It is possible to do this without a macro, though I am not familiar with the exact key presses needed. You can melee in your operator to instantly swap to warframe, and then shoot your zenith right after. You'll just have a few hundred miliseconds of melee animations to wait through before shooting.
@@Wrightrj May I ask how your macro is configured and what actions it performs? (Also the time interval between activation)
@@Wrightrj I think I got it. A shot is fired from the operator, then you need to activate a melee attack along with a shot from the main weapon. If calculated correctly, melee will not work, and the shot will be fired
@@mini-xjle6
F15:: ;QUICK SWAP
SendInput {LButton} ;primary fire
SendInput {LButton down} ;primary fire hold down
SendInput {e} ; Melee
Loop 4 {
SendInput {Right} ;primary fire on a different button
Lsleep(30) (replace with normal sleep)
}
SendInput {LButton up} ;release primary fire
SendInput {0} ;emote
Return
This was the autohotkey macro I used in the video. It is extremely hit or miss for other people and pretty messy. Might require having somewhat high fps (144).
F15 starts the macro.
LButton is shoot
E is melee
Right is shoot but on a different button
0 is agree emote
I would try and find an eidolon discord and ask around for proper macros there. This most likely will not work for you.
@@Wrightrj It worked for me. I tried to reproduce this moment, and I succeeded. The shot is fired immediately after the melee attack, without animation. I didn't even write a macro, trying it manually.
Thank you for the reply💙
why u shoot like an orb sort if thing, and i didnt but i also use 177 amp like u
Orb? Like the propa bomb from my amp? If so, that's timed to explode at the same time as I shoot my raplak to instantly break shields.
@@Wrightrj uhmm yea, and how to shoot with propa bomb because when i shoot my amp its only single fire shot from the raplak, thank u so much for answering my question much appreciated🙏🏼
@@laodapodap1071 For PC, it's middle click by default. It's whatever button swaps between firing mode on your gun.
I have never managed to go so fast, very good gameplay, could I upload a video to my channel analyzing your video at all times, to help those who want to hunt more paido tridolon?
Sure, just credit me in the description.
Thanks, I'll do it, I'll tell them to go watch your channel!!@@Wrightrj
There is a part that I don't know if I understood correctly, when you summon the slacker in the sanctuary, you put the eidolon fragment, you dash towards the pink pinloc, release your shield, activate void strike, you will shoot with the secondary shot of the amp and the shield breaks? But how do you activate void strike so quickly and lazily parts of a shot? I think there is something I haven't noticed, so explain to me how you do it?@@Wrightrj
@@RacsKiller I think of bit of what you are asking was lost in translation, but I assume you're talking about the close left macro at 2:41.
The eidolon's shield hurtbox is wherever the eidolon stops after it walks out of the water. That applies to all four eidolon spawns. I drop the propa in the air along with my volt shield to do bonus damage with my propa, then activate void strike as soon as I am able, then spam zenith shots at where the eidolon limb will be when it spawns in.
The macro starts when when a certain shade of red is detected from the shard after its placed. This was also using a patched exploit that allowed me to get a close left eidolon spawn every time by flashing my score board right before placing the shard.
Correct, that was my doubt, but now another one has arisen: when you show your scoreboard, does the eidolon appear on the left side?@@Wrightrj
Vermisplicer parts pls.
Vermi, Ramble, Splat
Guide for the fast kill on lake?
As in the macro used to instantly break the limb? I already talked about it in some other comments, but you can pretty much just follow along if you play the video in slow motion: place shard, fly up, blink, melee, void strike, propa, etc.
Could I have the Macro for water limb?
I won't be macro tech support, but here you are. Not perfect as can be, but what I used in the video.
i.gyazo.com/e7a2a09e309623dc0090529d26fb5afb.png
Is that itzal with max range? Is that how you're getting those eidolon shards from the fully charged lures?
Yes, my Itzal has max range, you can see in the build section at the end of the video. I am using Itzal's 3, cosmic crush to pick up the shards from the lures, though max range is more for convienience than necessity.
are the two alt fires with the amp just to damage it or is there a reason you do two and then a regular fire also im assuming its a 177 amp?
The second alt fire is in case the first one is miss timed and does 0 damage on the eidolon. If you have a good macro or are confident in your timings, you don't need to fire a second propa.
Your game looks so much better and smother then mine. What did you do to it? I want that too
All lowest graphics settings aside from high shader quality.
Thank you
nice job Wrigrihsj
somehow didn't see your comment. I like how you spelled my name
0:25 how you force spawn ? my vomvalyst never spawn there
You need to completely clear out the camp for the voms to spawn there. All the enemies. Think you can leave the turret, but I break it anyways just to be safe.
The voms can spawn in a few different areas where I am looking at that point in the video. Such as either side of the river or a bit higher up the hill. Turn on enemy highlights to spot them easier.
how did you get 400+ strength on eclipse
You can see my build at the end of the video, but I believed eclipse was nerfed/changed so you may not be able to hit that high of a number anymore. You should still be able to one shot limbs though. Not sure if roar is meta instead of eclipse, but I believe people use some purple shards instead of red for more damage.
edit: dont use zenith for any limb other than first limb
Can i see your macro, configs i'm making my own but i just mixed it up
Goodluck.
www.mediafire.com/file/puel22g74c3dn8v/Eidolon_Macros_Wrightrj.zip/file
Where can i contact you, i would like some question's ^_^
@@Wrightrj Thankyou so much but the thing is i dont really know how to run that hahahaha its insane i have no idea, thats what i supposed to ask you that hahaha
@----PeekaBoom---- I'm not trying to be macro tech support honestly. But you need AutoHotKey to run those files. Those macros are old and probably don't all work too well anymore, they're for you to compare to rather than just use. You can right click the file and click edit to see the code. The header and lsleep files can be ignored, but need to be ran with the main macro file. I can send you an eidolon discord if you want, they may be able to help with macros.
lsleep is just a more accurate version of AutoHotKey sleep function.
@@Wrightrj Sure, it might be helpful, just testing it out. something and figure it out. whats your discord
Yo bro how u get 450 strength with mirage ?? I only get 75% with 300% build strength
This video is pre mirage nerf. You are no longer able to get that much strength anymore. There are now other methods to get high enough damage to one shot limbs (not with Zenith anymore). You could try asking a more recent eidolon speedrun video, or I could give you the eidolon hunting discord everybodies in and you could ask there. I don't really know what's meta anymore, stopped hunting after this video.
GG, I don't have Zenith you advice me what weapon please ? Why you use Zenith ? Vermisplicer is only when you shoot head ?
Zenith does not serve that much of a purpose in this video. Faster runners use Zenith because of its infinite punch through, in other words, eidolon limbs can be shot while the eidolon is still spawning underground. In the video, I would have to wait a couple extra seconds for the hydro/gauntlyst limbs to appear from under the ground if I was not using Zenith. Generally, Rubico is recommended 99% of players, as most players are not going fast enough to warrant using a Zenith.
Zenith is most helpful when the eidolon spawns in its furthest spawn from the shard shrine, far spawn. In that spawn, it can take over 10 seconds of waiting for the eidolon's shoulder to appear from above the ground, whereas a zenith could shoot and break the limb before that point.
Vermisplicer is used for capshots, (the final killing blow on the eidolon). For a non-speedrun, it's not important at all. Vermisplicer allows me to kill the eidolon instantly after it becomes vulnerable, which looks good on the hunt log in the description. For everyone else, shooting the eidolon with rubico to kill is perfectly fine. It is only used to save a second of time.
@@Wrightrj Thanks for all
volt fashion?
Volt Arrester Helmet
Volt Graxx Skin
Piercing Eye Chest Armor
Ion Shoulder Armor
Maggor Towsun Leg Guards
Gloariana Ephemera
Sildarg Syndana
Aye bro how I get Vomalyst to spawn?? one shottin the shield and limbs easy work. I just can’t get the Vomalyst to spawn 😂😂
Which voms we talking about? The fast charge voms I do at the start of the video? Or the voms that spawn under the eidolon, or the voms that spawn around the eidolon in general. Can't do full explanation atm but can help if you say which
@@Wrightrj at the beginning. I be havin to wait for the Vomalyst to spawn around the eidolon and it’s slow me down drastically
@@KeezyTwoTimes If you look up eidolon fast charging you can find a guide on how to make sure the voms spawn everytime for you right at the start.
If you want to copy my video, place a loc-pin exactly where mine is in the video, (0:13) just try to stand in the exact same spot as me in the video and place the pin. That lets you know where to stop. If you fly too far the voms either won't spawn or will spawn in an inconvienient spot, too far away and that spawn will also not be good. Voms spawn on a timer, if you get to the loc-pin quickly, you will have voms almost instantly spawn, too slow and you'll have to wait another 4 seconds or so. Voms also spawn before the enemy grineer, so if you see grineer, it means you flew too far and spawned them in. Best to wait at the loc-pin for a few seconds and watch closely where the voms spawn. (This takes some practice to get consistent at)
You also don't need to go for the second pair of voms after the fast charge. If you damage the eidolon while it's still spawning, a single vom will spawn under it at like the 32 second mark ingame. If you collect that, you should have 3 voms in your lure assuming you got the 2 first ones from the fast charge. Going for the second pair of voms saves about 2 seconds.
@@Wrightrj blessins bro preciate it
Can you show volt fashion ?
Volt Arrester Helmet
Volt Graxx Skin
Piercing Eye Chest Armor
Ion Shoulder Armor
Maggor Towsun Leg Guards
Gloariana Ephemera
Sildarg Syndana
whats the macro for the raplak quick switch
i.gyazo.com/950bf4379e3ee818c2fbc41ed3864130.png
@@Wrightrj what do u use for ur macro software?
nvm I found it its auto hotkey thanks for the help
@@Wrightrj I tried this macro but theres slight problem, it keeps doing my melee at the end of the macro so I have to shoot to stop it and for the emote which emote is it?
@@HRrene Agree emote, mb probably should've included that in the comment.
2:40 WTF has happened O_O
Macro. Macro is checking for a certain shade of red that the shard has when it appears, once detected, macro then flies up in archwing, archwing blink, melee out of archwing, operator mode, propa shot, void strike, melee into warframe, look and shoot at eidolon shoulder. This can be done without macro, just a little bit slower and more skill required.
The eidolon's hurtbox is where it stops after it walks out of the water, which is where I drop my propa bomb. (This only applies to aoe damage though, like propa, not raplak)
@@Wrightrj Ok hacker
2:45 how did you manage to do 4 different things in once? I want to know how did you get him out that fast (i know most mechanics i have never seen this one before)
I was using a macro for this, though it has been done without one.
Step by step:
Fly up
Blink forward
Melee out of archwing which also drops volt shield.
Operator mode
Drop propa bomb
Void strike
Melee into Warframe
Flick crosshair to limb location
Yo hice mi récord en xbox de 6:52 es fue el mejor récord de xbox no e visto a nadie que lo superó claro jugando en consoló de xbox y con control de xbox no vale pc ni teclado 😊😊😊😊
How do u have loc pins underwater?
Old exploit allowing you to get under the water via necramech, don't remember how to do it anymore.
@@Wrightrj ahh I see ty 😊
Not Steel path 🥱🥱🥱
I haven't done the new war quest and duviri paradox. Is there a steel path version of everything there is in the star chart? Off all the guides I've looked about trilodons, not a single one mentions a steel path version.
There's literally no reason to do steal path eidolons other then for fun/difficulty. The rewards are the same.@@EnriqueGonzalez18362
oh, I see. Thank you.@@cmar7016
how do you do so much damage with amp alt fire? i dont do half as much
Lots of amp damage buffs. Contamination wave, damage blessing, volt shield, proper arcanes (eradicate and eternal onslaught), etc. Important to have Madurai maxed out aswell, atleast anything that could improve damage.
Doing good propa damage is also knowing the ideal distance between you and the eidolon. Too far away or too close and you will be dealing reduced damage.
@@Wrightrj yeah its definitely the distance whats fucking me up, would be cool if you made a shorts about the perfect distance
@@toasttoast8687 There's still a bit of leeway between too close and too far. You shoulden't be close enough to get staggered by the eidolon's foot.
It's worth noting that I am also raplaking at the same time as my propa. A single propa can break teralyst shields and I believe gantulyst aswell. The raplak is just insurance in case my propa does not break the shield.
Pretty much every speedrun you see online will be using a damage blessing aswell, just something to note. It's pretty important to making one shots consistent.
how do u get those weapon cosmetics on your back?
I forget the name of it, but it's a Syandana
Tennogen Sildarg Syandana
which weapon do you actually use to one shot them? you go so fast that i don't even know which one it is
I am one shotting the limbs with a Zenith. Sometimes a little bit of the damage is raplak damage bleeding through the shield. If voidstrike is activated then raplak can possibly one shot the limb by itself assuming the eidolon's armor is stripped.
I am instantly swapping from raplak to zenith, so it's a bit hard to tell exactly what I'm shooting with.
@@Wrightrj thank you for your explanation it's really incredible
How do you catch the lures so quickly??
I assume you mean how I am instantly hacking lures.
Shoot lure, blink at archwing lure, x (interact), y (cipher), all in quick succession.
Down side is that you need to craft a lot of ciphers if you plan on doing this every single time.
What keybinds do you have on the keyboard for all this?
All default keybinds. Three macros bound to side buttons for a: limb break loop, insta swap from operator to shooting zenith, and operator energy spam. Unless there's something else you're curious about.
@@Wrightrj Mhmm, I don't think so, I'm just very curious what keybinds can do to do it quickly without the need for macros, with skills of course, what matters most is optimizing time
@@KamiNJH Macroless runs are a thing and this time can still technically be achieved still without them. Just requires more skill/experience.
The macros honestly only are saving a few seconds each run and ultimately are not important unless you are going for leaderboard positions.
can you please tell me where you got the macros from?
Made them myself/got assistance from other hunters in eidolon discord
@@Wrightrj Tyvm!
how did you know where eido gonna spawn?
Patched exploit. By flashing the scoreboard before I placed shard, eidolon would spawn close left everytime. Nowa days you just have to reset the run if eidolon doesn't spawn close left.
you cant just make a macro for other spawns as well and then use the one you need?@@Wrightrj
@@iwasamistake551 You can, if I was still actively hunting I probably would aswell. It's just a pain to create, as you can't easilly test a macro like that (gotta be night, kill the teralyst, etc.) Macros like that use the pixel check function where they check for a certain shade of yellow or green from the eidolon spawn beam of light and then automatically break the shield/limb accordingly.
Such macros are also generally gatekept, people most likely will not hand them out to you. They may help you create your own, but that's about it.
Best case scenario, you get all close left spawns as its the spawn that results in the fastest limb break. With a macro that checks all spawns: best case scenario, you get a close left spawn and break the limb after 1.9 seconds (fastest possible time), worst case scenario, far spawn, you break the limb in like, idk somewhere in the 3 to 4 second range.
This doesn't really matter for 99.9% of players, only if you're attempting world record is when it's important to get good rng, as you are losing time on every spawn that's not close left.
will you share your macro?
Which one? Also no guarantee it will work.
@@Wrightrj the one with pixel color seeking, with shooting through the floor
@@Krydez21
Sorry, I forgot to get back to your comment here!
Here is the close left macro I used in the video, using Auto Hot Key:
Z:: ;CLOSE LEFT WATER LIMB
SpawnDelay := 1890
PropaDet := 1600
TimeBeforePropa := SpawnDelay-PropaDet
/*
Loop {
SendInput {x down}
PixelSearch, Px, Py, 550, 620, 1400, 1000, 0xd14c32 , 10, Fast RGB
} Until ErrorLevel == 0
*/
SendInput {LShift down}{Space down}
Lsleep(50)
SendInput {LShift down}{Space up}
Lsleep(10)
SendInput {LShift}
Lsleep(10)
SendInput {e} ;Melee
LSleep(30)
SendInput {5} ;Transferance
LSleep(TimeBeforePropa)
SendInput {MButton} ;Propa
LSleep(60)
SendInput {1} ;voidstrike
LSleep(90)
SendInput {Tab down}
LSleep(300)
SendInput {Tab up}
LSleep(300)
SendInput {e}
SendInput {e}
LSleep(200)
DllCall("mouse_event", uint,1, int, 1312, int, 240, uint, 0, int, 0)
SendInput {0}
SetTimer, shoot, 1
Lsleep(1000)
SetTimer, shoot, Off
SendInput {LShift UP}
Return
--------------------------------
the Lsleep function being used above ^, I keep this in a seperate file personally:
----------------------------------------
global CounterBefore, CounterAfter, Frequency
DllCall("QueryPerformanceFrequency", "Int64*", Frequency)
lSleep(s_time, ByRef start = "defaultStart") {
Critical
if (start != "defaultStart")
CounterBefore := start
else
DllCall("QueryPerformanceCounter", "Int64*", CounterBefore)
if (s_time > 25) {
DllCall("QueryPerformanceCounter", "Int64*", CounterAfter)
d_time := 1000 * (CounterAfter - CounterBefore) / Frequency
Critical Off
Sleep % s_time - d_time - 25
}
Critical
End := CounterBefore + ( Frequency * (s_time/1000))
loop
{
DllCall("QueryPerformanceCounter", "Int64*", CounterAfter)
}
until (End
why do you have deadhead on the zenith and whats the best stats to have on the riven for eidolons?
No reason really, the stability is nice, that's about it. Reload speed from merciless is not helpful. Primary plated rounds is probably a better choice, though I have not done any research on it nor do I own it.
Best stats for a riven is + crit damage and multishot and a harmless negative. The most important stat is multishot, you want to have a multishot value of 3.0. Anything over is unneccessary. You want to increase your damage floor, not the celine. Rest of the stats can be crit damage, crit chance, damage, or elemental. This is for solo anyways, for duo, you might want firerate if you're going fast. (for water limbs)
@@Wrightrj thanks for the quick reply, also another question, i have the same arcanes on the operator as you and maxed, but i cant 1shot the eidolons limb with the primary attack of my amp(propa-certus-raplak)... i have the crit chance from eternal onslaugh but im doing like 7k dmg through the shields even with 7 stacks of magus melt lol, so what else is contributing to your big dmg that enables you to 1shot the limb with raplak?
@@HauntedOne18 The shields are being broken with propa + raplak, not just raplak. They're timed so that the raplak shoots and the propa explodes at the same time. Also, make sure you have madurai completely unlocked for all the damage bumps it can give your amp.
@@Wrightrj Yeah i get that part where you break the shields with 2 propa shots but im not talking about the shield im talking about how to 1 shot the limb because you use raplak on the limbs and they pop instantly, for example @1:11, you use 2 propa shots, while your madurai is on cooldown, and then you use 1 raplak shot dealing 32k and 60k dmg and i see you have magus melt 7stacks at that moment when you shoot, and im doing this the same and my raplak is doing only 7k dmg and because of that it cant destroy the limb with 1 raplak shot, so im really confused how you do that big dmg 😕
@@HauntedOne18 The raplak is not what is breaking the limb, my zenith is. I'm just instantly swapping to zenith the milisecond after the raplak fires. Raplak can overpenetrate the shields, as in break shields and do limb damage, but it's typically the zenith that finishes off the limb. Void strike + raplak can oneshot terralyst limbs, for hydro/gaunt, you might also need magus melt x7 to do it, not sure honestly as I always zenith after the raplak and do not rely solely on raplak for limb breaks. Also important to note, make sure eidolon is completely armor stripped to do the most possible amp damage against limbs.
What is that amp
Raplak, Propa, Certus
How did you get invisible? Is it from eclipse?
Untraceable mod. Invisibility after hacking something. Unless you meant something else.
@@Wrightrjthanks it is indeed the parazon hacking mod. Had to search the wiki for that too
@@Wrightrjalso does shooting between the eidolon leg mean there is a hitbox between it?
@@anown315 I assume you're talking about shooting propa between the eidolon's legs. I'm not really sure honestly. Shooting too close to the center or either leg will deal reduced damage. I only know the distance to keep from the eidolon to do good damage.
There's not necessarily a shootable hitbox.
what does the vastilok serve?
The vastilok has a mod on it called shattering impact. It's for armor stripping the eidolon.
When there is no armor, the damage from my amp is able to also deal good damage to the limbs. When I have void strike activated, a single raplak/propa will break the entire shield and limb in one shot.
Armor stripping also increases the amount of damage my zenith does. Though not as much damage compared to "perfect stripping," where you intentionally leave a tiny amount of armor on the eidolon. I typically strip all the armor for all the eidolons, because I don't need more zenith damage, and I like my amp damage to bleed through the shield to damage the limb as well.
My zenith deals radiation damage, and does bonus damage to radiation armor. If all the armor is stripped, you lose that damage bonus.
@@Wrightrj does it have to be vastilok or can I use any gun blade, I’m a fan of redeemer prime if that’s viable
@@Oliver-bh5tr Redeemer is actually the only gunblade in the game that shattering impact does not work on, since redeember range attack does blast, not impact damage.
Vastilok is the preferred choice, although a sarpa works just fine aswell. Stropha technically also works although never tried it.
@@Wrightrj hmm whats an easy one i can get rn? because cant get vastilok without baro
@@Oliver-bh5tr Sarpa blueprint is sold from the market.
what amp do u use?
9:06 Raplak propa certus
Thank you!@@Wrightrj
What AMP were you running?
Propa, Raplak, Certus
@@Wrightrj thx
well configured ahk
U can have a ahk no timing bro macroless or with macro still hard to do lol
@@ImmortalAmpony the argument collapses when you take into consideration that hunters compete for times. It is impossible to do such fast water shields without macros, this is not a showcase of skill.
@@angrykouhai2053 I mean fair I have 6:45 macroless on eidolon so I get your point , but I’m just saying what can be done with macros can also be done without and vice versa it’s still impressive and if anything he doesn’t even look like he’s using macros he’s just consistent
@@angrykouhai2053 lead also has a world record without a macro anyway his water shields are done using a different strat other than this so there’s way because he has a 6:43
@@ImmortalAmpony "doesn't look like he is using macro" you say, yeah 👍😂 that garry water looked REALLY human 🤣
TAB rip
Amp build?
9:05 177 (Raplak Propa Certus)
@@Wrightrj another question to continue this comment thread: every phase I see you shoot 2 propa and one raplak and it is breaking the shield and limb. When I go to replicate this I am barely able 1 shot the shields. Yes I use Madurai and yes I am capable of doing a 6x3 even without this.
@@Wrightrjis it due to magus melt?
@@dfwTxRen3Gade The propa and raplak's main purpose is to simply break the shields. Magus melt doesn't really serve a purpose, that amp arcane slot is a flex slot. My amp is not what is breaking the limbs; I am instantly swapping to my zenith and shooting it the moment the shields go down. The second propa is only there if the first propa is fired too early and does no damage to eidolon.
Keep in mind there is a lot of amp damage buff stacking that goes on to one shot shields. One shotting shields without voidstrike is just the raplak and propa firing/exploding at the same time. You'll need buffs like eternal onslaught and eradicate to be activated. Relay damage blessing is also very helpful to consistently oneshot. Volt shield, etc. Make sure you're not too far away from the eidolon as to prevent propa damage falloff.
Magus Melt's original purpose was to one shot the shield and limb with only the amp at the same time. Melt only increases damage to the limb, not the shield. I believe it might be able to one shot terralyst limbs with x7 stacks and the eidolon armor stripped and volt shield, but... I never use it for that purpose. There's just nothing else to run in that arcane slot really. Raplak can also one shot limbs with voidstrike, but that works without magus melt anyways, so.
@@Wrightrj I see that now after rewatching on .25x speed. Do you happen to know the timings for this amp to zenith macro? I’m on Xbox so I have to do a little bit of extra work custom creating my macros.
What is vastilok for?
Armor strip via shattering impact. Zenith/Raplak does more damage to eidolon health.
@@Wrightrj it doesn t works with any other melee? Like redeemer or something?
@@Raven874 It works with Sarpa and technically Arum Spinosa aswell, but don't use Arum. Sarpa and Vastilok are the main two. Vastilok is slightly better due to it firing more pellets per burst, but it doesn't really matter.
Redeemer doesn't work due to its ranged attack only dealing blast damage, the mod needs impact damage to proc.
@@Wrightrj i think i understood, thanks!
Ur using macro
Yes.
@Wrightrj why
You used a specter?
I did. Though not entirely necessary, it breaks the voms that spawn under the teralyst for me. Just one less thing for me to worry about. Although in this run, at 2:09, I had to break the voms myself as I messed up my landing and pulled my crew mate away. Ended up not having enough time to break voms and cast all my buffs, lost some time due to that.
what amp do u use?
Raplak, Propa, Certus. It's in the build section of the video.