There's a reason Chroma is still in my top 10 most used frames. 😂 It feels like I rarely use them, but they still manage to have 7% usage. I guess it helps that they helped me with the last quarter of the star chart. And helped with the early credit farming.
Hunter they are merely data immortals. Its ethical for you to use strangledome on them over and over Hunter. Its ok. I checked and its fine. And its not weird either
so funny how this video is so perfectly directed and developed. its like a bachelor's thesis cuz you can see the whole scientific method and even its stages. thats good
You sir, are the best. I loved Thekengineer but you explain things even further then he does( or so it seems to me). I totally understand what your writing (although some of the text is getting out of the video ?) Thanks allot for all the effort you put into this video and testing things out, specially about the things that wont work(must have cost you a shit ton of time figuring things out).
so a bit of story time that might feel a little nostalgic for the older WF players. year1-2 when there werent nearly as many players in the game and not as much platinum in the market there were 2 pieces of gear that were valuable. Nova prime chassis(80p) and ash blueprints(100p). now keep in mind this was back when for the average player 10p was alot to spend on something in a game that wasnt nearly as popular yet. so me and my 2 buddies would pick up a 4th and do infested orokin survival missions since that was where the nova chassis dropped and was faster than orokin defenses even though it sold for less. my buddy would swap between EV trin and the desecrate nekros. my other buddy would be the nova either speed or slow depending on how long we wanted to go and the 4th would fill the previous frame we would be missing. we would just chill in a good funnel with our backs to an elevator so the enemies always had to come in the front and talk/BS. it took me the longest to realize the reason we never had to also grind credits, since selling prime mods was another great way to make money, was all due to me on chroma. i just fkn loved dragons and it was fun to have my effigy do all the work since trinity would fill your energy even during a channel back then(cant remember if she is still that way, they have done lots of changes). but yeah, this video brought back really fond memories so thanks
I wonder if the developers even know that in this much detail. 11/10 guide. Just tried it myself on Titan. Easiest 500k credits I've ever earned in this game. Never have to worry about credits again. Now if I could only find an endo farm this chill and efficient...
Yeah solo farming endo is tough. If you have some friends to play with, the arena Yam in Steel Path is good with the right team comp. Me and two friends were running a super suboptimal version of the team comp and were getting about 1.4k a minute
The 2,500 credit cache is really funny to me. "Hm yes. 2,500 credits its such a good reward for surviving 5 minutes" as if they didnt get 900k credits in those 5 minutes
Can confirm this still works pretty well, built and tried it yesterday. I copied the builds from the vid exactly except for Galvanized Elementalist on the Lecta and a pet with Resourceful Reteriver. With no boosters at MR30 I was averaging about 350,000 credits per 5 mins.
I was so glad using the elementalist and damage mods on lua survival just to see here that more ticks means more money... meaning that I could have done better than 4m in one hour with booster. I'm both happy and disappointed, thanks for the guide
Well.. 1999 came out. Melee Vortex is relevant per your guide online. New melee mod that is +magnetic and +atk speed. Companion rework also means that you can equip loyal/prosperous retriever on a beast and not use smeeta all the time. Ran it with no helminth, 100 str, high eff & direction, low range chroma. Lecta was gas, magnetic, and electric. Had riven with 60% atk speed, tennokai and life steal on heavy attack. averaged 150-200k creds with a booster thru 5 five minute runs. Survivability was still an issue, but arcane aegis helped a ton. Only thing I can’t figure out/struggle with is effigy placement. One moment I’ll think I have it perfect, get kills and only rack of a few thousand credits. Then i pop it and run around with magnetic, and i get like a solid chain of 40k-60k creds. Seems like it has potential to be busted but I lack the knowledge.
Damn this took me all the way back to 2016 lol. I remember my friend and I running chroma, vauban and nekros on Akkad before the index was a thing. Vauban use was what ensnare is used for in the vid and yall already know what nekros was for except back then his desecrate ability wasn’t a set and forget ability, we had to press his 3 every time manually lol
I would like to add this doesn't really work anymore with the introduction of jade light eximus back in jade shadow update as every time I try to do this setup I just get destroyed by those eximus every time.
The most difficult thing is to find a proper place for the guardian. In a week, I couldn't find the same place as in the video. And in other places, he dies and interferes with the farm.
If they banned people for this (which they won't) they would have to ban anyone who even touched the weapon. Since just using the the secura lecta normally can cause the "exploit" aswell. Secura lecta + any grouping ability.
@@Handle-this-15 Exploit is precisely abusing a mechanic to gain unfair/unintended advantage. This is cleary a exploit, the mechanic is a extra credit drop, forcing a specific animation that make a specific status trick the game code to think that the enemy is dying multiple times, is exactly what an exploit is. Exploit =/= cheat, exploit =/= bug.
Don't think DE won't bother doing anything about this. Pretty sure it will be OK. Don't seem that crazy since you can earn 1mil credits in 2 to 3 mins on profit taker. Cool find & ty for sharing.
@GianfrancoSuriano it is being compared to PT, I can see your point but it is still wildly inferior for credit farming, is not like is not worth doing, is just that the returns are not comparable, for the time spent, I'd rather do PT on a 2x event, farm 100 million and not worry about credits for a very long time. Bringing a s. Lecta + nekros just doesn't seem fun at all.
Unless you swap your weapons every day and want to max like 100 riven mods I think realistically speaking credits are just a non factor for most players these days. Doing 30 minute Index whenever some special boosts are available is likely going to last you for a long time. Other than that you get so many credits just on the side these days, if you happen to get a booster + blessing you can get insane amounts of credits while e.g. farming for lua thrax anyway.
@GianfrancoSuriano well this method I think might be way worse if you are not alone or your whole groups plays for it which is probably hard to find. And playing solo when farming Voruna or especially when playing a fissure is definentely not optimal.
@@technodroid9411wasnt that with a mod, and didnt he get banned for like 16 years? I can’t be sure if its the guy im talking about lmao, sounds like it is
@@XxDeathxX509 I dont remember if it was a mod, but i know he got a warning from DE not to post the video and ignored it. He even encouraged people to use macros to exploit it. Then he got banned until 2035.
its a long time since I builded a Kit gun. I crafted it and wanted to gilde it but instead I threw it away with all the arcane slots/catalys installed. Here we go again....
I thought dark sectors credit bonus was a multiplier at the end of the mission, wich would be bonkers for a grind like this despite maybe don't having a good tileset/spawn rate or even maybe the infested only having the "shatter" death animation, with no additional frames that can be affected by status. But its just a flat multiplier to the missions payout, it only considers starting level of enemies. Sure, it can still be more credits at the end of the day, but like just 20k ish or maybe more in the steel path, it's a small difference by itself that may involve risk of botching the whole operation xD
bro pls can u do an updated video for this? are u using light attack combo with the secura lecta? can i use melee duplicate on the lecta will it work just fine?
I wonder what Valence Formation could do on a Gas Lecta... Forcing Electric with Formation for Melee Influence. If it clears fast enough the credit boost from Chroma could maybe be outpaced?
Killing too quickly leads to worse results. I thought about using Melee Vortex while making it compatible with Electricity by adding Magnetic, but I realized his passive doesn't go well with the short ability duration in the first place.
@@jWFlab have you tried the setup with a manifold bond nautilus grouping enemies with tether repeatedly in a 30m radius ? The idea seems promising to me, though I don't have the tools yet to test it out
the the new pet update, how about using pet mod that force magnetic on hit with Melee Vortex? this could help in grouping enemies together and open some options on other helminth as well. (though I have no idea what to replace myself)
put this together as well because it seemed fun but for some reason I cant keep up the survival.. they barely drop the thing that gives survival % and I have to run for lifesupport all the time, hardly making it over 5-7 minutes and I have no idea why.. is there something that gives dropchance for that or anything that i missed?
@@jWFlab i havent had a run since i put the build together where i could go over 10 minutes and i tried EVERYTHING at this point:(( maybe a resource/drop chance booster would help?
The boosters don't boost the chance of life support modules, but Nekros does. Since Retrieve is a weaker version of Desecrate, Chesa Kubrow may be helpful.
Common misconception cause people saw enemies on the map and felt they spawned further away, there was a dev stream where they confirmed it isn't the case
also good idea if you have them to use eximus ancient specter since they have 90% dmg reduction in my 20 run they never interfied with spawning or enemy aggro
How much enemies should i generally leave and is there another mission where this might be more effective? Is titan just a general mission or could sedna grineer defense also be viable due to tankier enemies to hold on to the stacks etc.
From what I've seen of successful videos, I think there are always at least 10 enemies. Rather than intentionally leaving enemies alive, it's important to choose a tile where there will naturally be a lot of enemies remaining. More efficient tiles might be found in other Grineer or Orokin Survival.
I assume that Chroma's energy colour should be set to Electric? I watched through a few times and tried Ctrl+F'ing on the guide but I didn't find mention of it.
how the hell do you keep your fps doing it? when i try it i just drop to 20-30 fps cause of all the gas procs, and thats with everything disabled or as low as possible
The energy color of secura lecta was set to black. Lowering options -> accessibility -> visual effects intensity may also be helpful, though that makes the Tek zones harder to see.
Charm no longer has the credit and resource buff. Instead, it has its own mod Prosperous Retriever for credits and Resourceful Retriever for resources, so this farm is even better now with that beast mod and slapping on the evasive posture will help whatever beast companion stay alive longer.
instead of weeping wounds could you use Gavanized Elementalist or? and when having a riven what should i try to get, just more crit chance and damage or?
Frames that enhance survivability and additional Ensnare would be useful. I've seen a post that say that status procs by clients don't work, so the host may need to use Secura Lecta.
I watched lots of these videos from Lord D0m doing this same method on SP Circulus for farming Arcanes as well. I remember one of the comments asking why he didn't do it with chromas and his 4 and he said that chromas effigy doesn't work with Secura lectas boosted credits. In your testing did you see if it actually did boost credits?
As written at the end of the linked guide, the numbers were actually increased, and you can also easily confirm the boost in simulacrum. It won't work very well if placed in a bad location, so I guess that's why he misunderstood.
Chroma, Speed Nova, Effigy protector (e.g., Frost, Limbo, Volt), supporter (e.g., Wisp, Protea, Trinity) This is just a thought because I've never tried this farm method in squad. From what I've heard, only the host's Secura Lecta works, so the other three will be support roles that use abilities frequently, including gathering enemies. If, for example, headshots can trigger the desirable death animations, those three might also be tasked with killing enemies.
Are you using the mr30 credit boost? everytime ive tried doing this im getting half the credit and pickup count, with around 25% less total kills in the same time frame. what would be reccomended for in a riven for the lecta with this method
Credit booster & blessing were used. Less kills are usually due to enemy spawns. A riven that has some of the attributes used in the build to save mod slots.
What are you specs? When I attempt this my frame rate is pretty stable at the beginning but around 15min in my framerate declines to about 15 to 30 fps and stays there consistently the whole time onward. I have a 3070 and ryz 5 5600x and i also cranked my settings to as low as possible.
@@jWFlab do you also get considerable slowing in pace at around the 15m mark as well? I started off with really strong credit pace like in your run but it plateud really badly once my fps kinda just stuck at 25
I'm having the same issue with my i7-1360H RTX 4050 and it happens as soon as i use lecta on the ensnared enemies with the effects and the effects are low with disabled particles
I tried it with the same weapon build, the character was an Avenger without the Khora ability and without the secondary, and played a mission on the Uranus Survival planet. It didn't work for any reason :)
Because this method is highly inconsistent, you need to learn in game, test it, discover the spots... Its better to learn Profit Taker, its 100% consistent and its almost the same amount of credit or even higher
just a question please but i am only yielding 1 mill every ten minutes sometimes less with ur full build i thought it still worked and if it does could you tell me what i am doing wrong potentially?
Very interesting. Although this is less effective, using Nautilus’ Cordon + Manifold bond for consistent grouping (as it does not ragdol enemies) and subsuming Atlas’ Petrify with Ore Gaze augment can be an alternative method. Petrified enemies do not ragdol and Nautilus can still put them in, and as a bonus the petrified enemies have lowered “resistances” which can improve kps and the augment can potentially increase enemy credit drops, especially with high strength which Chroma builds anyways. As for shards, I would slot two Emeralds for full armor strip and mod Nautilus’ weapon with corrosive to aid with the corrosive procs. Duplex bond should be avoided as the clones will spread the enemy spawns. Restorative bond and Synth Deconstruct for faster sentinel revive.
secura lecta: *enemy dies* "gimme money!" *enemy twitches after dead* "Gimme more money" *enemy looked at me weird* "GIMME MONEY AGAIN" *friend of enemy dies close by while lecta was watching* "GIMME EVEN MORE MONEY AGAIN!!" *angry greedy lightning noises* fps affects enemy speed.. wtf? uncapping my fps RN
Very cool never seen anything like this. WIll run it a couple of times but when I get bored I'll just go back to PT again hahaha. Surely I didn't spend all that plat and time min maxing it only to find out there are better ways to make credits quick 😅
I tried to replicate this but I can't seem to get the same amount of credits to drop. I am using larva to group but they're still dying when standing. I can get up to 1000 credits per kill maybe but not nearly the same amount as this. Did they patch this?
I tried Larva in simulacrum, and it should work if you kill enemies after they stand up. Ensnare is better, though, because enemies don't scatter at the end of ability duration and you don't have to wait for them to stand up.
would probably be ideal to have epitaph with a corrosive build. 1 or 2 shots and it would make for quicker killing with a gas setup. also for anything status related you would undoubtably want a faction mod for double dipping. that would certainly help increase your credit count
YO, since you wanna use toxin on the effigy why subsume the one isnt that the only way you chose the element on the effigy? Which ability is swappable with Khoras? Oh and also why the secondary? Did i miss something?
The element at the start of the mission is determined by Chroma's first emissive color, so all three abilities except Effigy are swappable. Any weapon that can kill Acolytes quickly will do. The sporelacer is just one example.
I mean I would still say that 4mil in 20 min is a success. Are you using prosperous retriever? I haven't been able to get more than a million in 15min. Definitely doing some very wrong I guess
Something doesn't seem right. The Effigy gets destroyed instantly, even with a high strength build to increase its HP and being "hidden" exactly as shown in this video. Also, the enemies seem to "dance" when one of the status effects hit them (seems like the gas cloud), causing them to move away from each other, which makes it impossible to stand in place and hit a whole group. Also, the amount of credits dropped are significantly less than shown, even with a smeeta using charm and the Tek mod to extend it.
If "fly everywhere" means that you move a lot when killing an enemy, then facing the direction of an enemy with more health left will prevent that from happening.
@@timyolol the enemies going flying are because they are too close to effigy. as for 8 mill in 20 mins.. i just tried this with the weekend booster and i only got 4 mill as well
Has anyone tried this method as of late (jade shadows) want to know cus if this still works at this point in time DE might as well leave it idk I need to know before I try it cus this time I want the universe to use yall as examples not me I had my share so be my test dummies pls, respectfully ❤😭
That can happen when you are in a place where it is difficult to gather many enemies, for example because some enemies pulled by Ensnare get stuck on obstacles. If that happens even though there are a lot of enemies, you can consider using a build that deals more damage.
"The Operative is making progress. This will help our cause."
_2,500 credits cache_
The operative doing small but honest work.
@@Sodasaman The operative is selling lemonade
@@Sneedseednfeed hahahah
The credit farming using secura lecta and chroma was a thing YEAARRSS ago. Glad this method was tuned better for the current state of the game!
There's a reason Chroma is still in my top 10 most used frames. 😂
It feels like I rarely use them, but they still manage to have 7% usage. I guess it helps that they helped me with the last quarter of the star chart. And helped with the early credit farming.
So your top 10 frames have 7% usage or what. I dont get what u sayin @@Male_Parent
@@MrOceansEleven nah hes referring to chroma as they, chroma has 7% usage
@@JoshuaHarrison-gq9cr oh. So chroma is multiple people?
@@MrOceansEleven What do you mean with "people"? That's a warframe.
One thing to note is that the credit boost from the lecta scales with MR rank from 2x at mr8 to capped 4x at mr18; Anyway awesome guide thanks !
Extremely impressive only guide like this in existence.
finally! a detailed explanation on how the weapon actually functions, this video answered all of the questions i had
thanks!
I dont understand till now
WOW what an incredibly well detailed explanation. very impressive video my friend, excellent work!
"no corpus crewmen or grineer elite lancers have been harmed during the production of this video"
Hunter they are merely data immortals. Its ethical for you to use strangledome on them over and over Hunter. Its ok. I checked and its fine. And its not weird either
@@monosophy691Theres no laws about the digitized grineer batman
so funny how this video is so perfectly directed and developed. its like a bachelor's thesis cuz you can see the whole scientific method and even its stages. thats good
Thank you TH-cam for putting this in my recommended on weekend booster time
You sir, are the best. I loved Thekengineer but you explain things even further then he does( or so it seems to me). I totally understand what your writing (although some of the text is getting out of the video ?) Thanks allot for all the effort you put into this video and testing things out, specially about the things that wont work(must have cost you a shit ton of time figuring things out).
so a bit of story time that might feel a little nostalgic for the older WF players. year1-2 when there werent nearly as many players in the game and not as much platinum in the market there were 2 pieces of gear that were valuable. Nova prime chassis(80p) and ash blueprints(100p). now keep in mind this was back when for the average player 10p was alot to spend on something in a game that wasnt nearly as popular yet. so me and my 2 buddies would pick up a 4th and do infested orokin survival missions since that was where the nova chassis dropped and was faster than orokin defenses even though it sold for less. my buddy would swap between EV trin and the desecrate nekros. my other buddy would be the nova either speed or slow depending on how long we wanted to go and the 4th would fill the previous frame we would be missing. we would just chill in a good funnel with our backs to an elevator so the enemies always had to come in the front and talk/BS. it took me the longest to realize the reason we never had to also grind credits, since selling prime mods was another great way to make money, was all due to me on chroma. i just fkn loved dragons and it was fun to have my effigy do all the work since trinity would fill your energy even during a channel back then(cant remember if she is still that way, they have done lots of changes). but yeah, this video brought back really fond memories so thanks
I wonder if the developers even know that in this much detail. 11/10 guide. Just tried it myself on Titan. Easiest 500k credits I've ever earned in this game. Never have to worry about credits again.
Now if I could only find an endo farm this chill and efficient...
Yeah solo farming endo is tough. If you have some friends to play with, the arena Yam in Steel Path is good with the right team comp. Me and two friends were running a super suboptimal version of the team comp and were getting about 1.4k a minute
@@thekillswitchfulwith mod drop chance booster it will give 3k - 3.5k every 1min 30 sec
500k credits is sadly not going to be near enough for you
@@JoshuaHarrison-gq9cr what happened with the new patch?
@@JoshuaHarrison-gq9cr more like 2.7 to 3.1k with avg teams every 1min 20 sec
Pretty nice tutorial bro,i hope we will got some credit booster event soon,cuz i missed this one :(
The 2,500 credit cache is really funny to me.
"Hm yes. 2,500 credits its such a good reward for surviving 5 minutes" as if they didnt get 900k credits in those 5 minutes
Can confirm this still works pretty well, built and tried it yesterday. I copied the builds from the vid exactly except for Galvanized Elementalist on the Lecta and a pet with Resourceful Reteriver. With no boosters at MR30 I was averaging about 350,000 credits per 5 mins.
What Node did you do, i keep running into the problem of Jade Eximus
What companion did you use?
Gotta run this, thank you so much
250.000 Credits in under 2 minutes is just insane to me
Very insightful, thank you :)
Looks like I know what ima going to do Saturday night now 😊
Double credit weekend, baby!
I was so glad using the elementalist and damage mods on lua survival just to see here that more ticks means more money... meaning that I could have done better than 4m in one hour with booster. I'm both happy and disappointed, thanks for the guide
W video bro that's a fat guide, big up❤️
1999 added Magnetic Rush, a melee mod that adds magnetic damage as well as 20% attack speed. This is a must have now to go mith melee vortex
Well.. 1999 came out. Melee Vortex is relevant per your guide online. New melee mod that is +magnetic and +atk speed. Companion rework also means that you can equip loyal/prosperous retriever on a beast and not use smeeta all the time. Ran it with no helminth, 100 str, high eff & direction, low range chroma.
Lecta was gas, magnetic, and electric. Had riven with 60% atk speed, tennokai and life steal on heavy attack. averaged 150-200k creds with a booster thru 5 five minute runs. Survivability was still an issue, but arcane aegis helped a ton. Only thing I can’t figure out/struggle with is effigy placement. One moment I’ll think I have it perfect, get kills and only rack of a few thousand credits. Then i pop it and run around with magnetic, and i get like a solid chain of 40k-60k creds. Seems like it has potential to be busted but I lack the knowledge.
This should be even better with the new companion retriever mods!
A credit farm that isn't sickeningly tedious? Yes please 😍
Damn this took me all the way back to 2016 lol. I remember my friend and I running chroma, vauban and nekros on Akkad before the index was a thing. Vauban use was what ensnare is used for in the vid and yall already know what nekros was for except back then his desecrate ability wasn’t a set and forget ability, we had to press his 3 every time manually lol
Impressive guide, you deserve more subscribers. Now you earn my sub.
I would like to add this doesn't really work anymore with the introduction of jade light eximus back in jade shadow update as every time I try to do this setup I just get destroyed by those eximus every time.
This, Jade Eximus is a killer of this method. rip
The most difficult thing is to find a proper place for the guardian. In a week, I couldn't find the same place as in the video. And in other places, he dies and interferes with the farm.
Dude you fuckin ate that acolyte
If they banned people for this (which they won't) they would have to ban anyone who even touched the weapon. Since just using the the secura lecta normally can cause the "exploit" aswell. Secura lecta + any grouping ability.
This is a mechanic not an exploit and it's not even close to the most effective or efficient credit farm. This was meta like 6-7 years ago
Looks like a mechanic to me. Not to mention the need to farm credits eventually falls off anyway.
@@Handle-this-15which is why I used quotation marks for exploit... "Exploit"
@@Handle-this-15 Exploit is precisely abusing a mechanic to gain unfair/unintended advantage. This is cleary a exploit, the mechanic is a extra credit drop, forcing a specific animation that make a specific status trick the game code to think that the enemy is dying multiple times, is exactly what an exploit is. Exploit =/= cheat, exploit =/= bug.
@@erichdegurechaff9515 except in this game, it is a bug, you are not abusing an exploit, you are exploiting a bug
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Nice farm, as person who doesn't have credit booster, I tried for 15 min at void nodes sp and got 500k.
You... You are up to something 👀
Imma leave that sub just in case
The nostalgia hit HARD 🤤
Don't think DE won't bother doing anything about this. Pretty sure it will be OK.
Don't seem that crazy since you can earn 1mil credits in 2 to 3 mins on profit taker. Cool find & ty for sharing.
Yeah, with Smeeta PT is way better. 20 mins lul
@GianfrancoSuriano it is being compared to PT, I can see your point but it is still wildly inferior for credit farming, is not like is not worth doing, is just that the returns are not comparable, for the time spent, I'd rather do PT on a 2x event, farm 100 million and not worry about credits for a very long time. Bringing a s. Lecta + nekros just doesn't seem fun at all.
Unless you swap your weapons every day and want to max like 100 riven mods I think realistically speaking credits are just a non factor for most players these days.
Doing 30 minute Index whenever some special boosts are available is likely going to last you for a long time. Other than that you get so many credits just on the side these days, if you happen to get a booster + blessing you can get insane amounts of credits while e.g. farming for lua thrax anyway.
@GianfrancoSuriano well this method I think might be way worse if you are not alone or your whole groups plays for it which is probably hard to find. And playing solo when farming Voruna or especially when playing a fissure is definentely not optimal.
With blessing it's 1.4m
Chroma Lecta is back baybie!
Smart of you to censor your name out, you can never be sure to know when will DE decide to n00bShowtek you.
What happened in that situation?
@@Meltdownlv100He found a bug that would let you level your weapon from 1 to 30 in a minute and made a video showing people how to do it.
@@technodroid9411wasnt that with a mod, and didnt he get banned for like 16 years? I can’t be sure if its the guy im talking about lmao, sounds like it is
@@XxDeathxX509 I dont remember if it was a mod, but i know he got a warning from DE not to post the video and ignored it. He even encouraged people to use macros to exploit it. Then he got banned until 2035.
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this is insane
its a long time since I builded a Kit gun. I crafted it and wanted to gilde it but instead I threw it away with all the arcane slots/catalys installed. Here we go again....
I thought dark sectors credit bonus was a multiplier at the end of the mission, wich would be bonkers for a grind like this despite maybe don't having a good tileset/spawn rate or even maybe the infested only having the "shatter" death animation, with no additional frames that can be affected by status. But its just a flat multiplier to the missions payout, it only considers starting level of enemies. Sure, it can still be more credits at the end of the day, but like just 20k ish or maybe more in the steel path, it's a small difference by itself that may involve risk of botching the whole operation xD
bro pls can u do an updated video for this?
are u using light attack combo with the secura lecta?
can i use melee duplicate on the lecta will it work just fine?
whenever I do this the enemies die too quick then I die because no enemies will ever get near that box
I have a lecta riven with Melee Damage, Electricity, status chance -Finisher. it just so much using it with this method
I wonder what Valence Formation could do on a Gas Lecta... Forcing Electric with Formation for Melee Influence. If it clears fast enough the credit boost from Chroma could maybe be outpaced?
Killing too quickly leads to worse results.
I thought about using Melee Vortex while making it compatible with Electricity by adding Magnetic, but I realized his passive doesn't go well with the short ability duration in the first place.
@@jWFlab have you tried the setup with a manifold bond nautilus grouping enemies with tether repeatedly in a 30m radius ? The idea seems promising to me, though I don't have the tools yet to test it out
Not very suitable because the location of grouped enemies change frequently.
the the new pet update, how about using pet mod that force magnetic on hit with Melee Vortex? this could help in grouping enemies together and open some options on other helminth as well. (though I have no idea what to replace myself)
Melee Vortex itself is good, but I think it would be difficult to keep gathering enemies without Ensnare.
Nautilus has Cordon you don't need Ensnare and you can put gas + cold on him too with guaranteed cold aoe proc.
@@Dregomz02 Nautilus doesn't have Retriver mods. Credit output will be about 18% less.
put this together as well because it seemed fun but for some reason I cant keep up the survival.. they barely drop the thing that gives survival % and I have to run for lifesupport all the time, hardly making it over 5-7 minutes and I have no idea why.. is there something that gives dropchance for that or anything that i missed?
Poor enemy spawning causes that.
@@jWFlab i havent had a run since i put the build together where i could go over 10 minutes and i tried EVERYTHING at this point:(( maybe a resource/drop chance booster would help?
The boosters don't boost the chance of life support modules, but Nekros does. Since Retrieve is a weaker version of Desecrate, Chesa Kubrow may be helpful.
It's interesting to use this on Void Fissure with its additional credit booster, although nullifiers will interfere
Use can use miter to quickly pop them maybe?
Enemy radar affects how far away enemies spawn as the game always tries to spawn new enemies outside player's detection radius
So no enemy radar would be better for closer enemies spawning?
Is there a source for this? is it stated on the wiki?
Common misconception cause people saw enemies on the map and felt they spawned further away, there was a dev stream where they confirmed it isn't the case
Average Tenno mugging all the Grinners in the base
Does it work with, credit booster, blessing and the 2x weekend? Do they all stack?
yes
@@LTLuh yes, they can stack and even more, you can stack the bonus you get with fissures
also good idea if you have them to use eximus ancient specter since they have 90% dmg reduction
in my 20 run they never interfied with spawning or enemy aggro
How much enemies should i generally leave and is there another mission where this might be more effective? Is titan just a general mission or could sedna grineer defense also be viable due to tankier enemies to hold on to the stacks etc.
From what I've seen of successful videos, I think there are always at least 10 enemies.
Rather than intentionally leaving enemies alive, it's important to choose a tile where there will naturally be a lot of enemies remaining. More efficient tiles might be found in other Grineer or Orokin Survival.
I assume that Chroma's energy colour should be set to Electric? I watched through a few times and tried Ctrl+F'ing on the guide but I didn't find mention of it.
toxin 6:55
@@jWFlab Thank you, I was being blind it seems.
I'm having the problem of randomly flying through the crowd by meleeing, how did you get past this?
@jWFlab what settings should I use to avoid FPS drops? It gets really laggy
Set the video options as off, disabled, or low as possible, but I'm not sure about the newly added "Reduce Frame Latency".
how the hell do you keep your fps doing it? when i try it i just drop to 20-30 fps cause of all the gas procs, and thats with everything disabled or as low as possible
try turn effect intensify to lowest
The energy color of secura lecta was set to black.
Lowering options -> accessibility -> visual effects intensity may also be helpful, though that makes the Tek zones harder to see.
is there a reason that Tek Collateral is not upgraded in the build? Is there some unmentioned benefit, or is it simply for mod space?
That is to minimize the impact on kill speed. The difference may not be large, though.
would this be better on a fissure mission, for the endless credit boost, or would the fissures interfere too much
Fissure runs would give you more credits. It may be better to shorten the ability range a bit considering the ability range fissure buff.
Why whenever i do the melee dmg i kept on swinging too far is annoying man
Does the change to Charm in the Companions 2.0 affect this build in any way?
Charm no longer has the credit and resource buff. Instead, it has its own mod Prosperous Retriever for credits and Resourceful Retriever for resources, so this farm is even better now with that beast mod and slapping on the evasive posture will help whatever beast companion stay alive longer.
instead of weeping wounds could you use Gavanized Elementalist or? and when having a riven what should i try to get, just more crit chance and damage or?
Disregard crit stuff, focus on status. You don't want to deal TOO much damage
You don't need status damage
anyone here still using the method and able to confirm if it still works
still works
Would this still be useful if you bring a friend along? Let's say a Dante or something along those lines with Overguard capabilities (or similar)?
Frames that enhance survivability and additional Ensnare would be useful.
I've seen a post that say that status procs by clients don't work, so the host may need to use Secura Lecta.
What did you do about eximus?, they are pain in SP
When they were too annoying, I would fire Sporelacer for a second to remove their Overguard. (15:36)
I watched lots of these videos from Lord D0m doing this same method on SP Circulus for farming Arcanes as well. I remember one of the comments asking why he didn't do it with chromas and his 4 and he said that chromas effigy doesn't work with Secura lectas boosted credits. In your testing did you see if it actually did boost credits?
As written at the end of the linked guide, the numbers were actually increased, and you can also easily confirm the boost in simulacrum.
It won't work very well if placed in a bad location, so I guess that's why he misunderstood.
Chroma is just to much work compared to nekros.
@@TillyVillychroma specifically boost credits
Hense your getting more out if it while being tanky easily
have you thought about riven mods for this if so what would the perfect riven mod be?
Since higher damage is not necessary, a riven mod like two mods in one would be good enough.
Attack speed, status chance, range perhaps
Range is best. either of the 3 elements to complete Gas+electric would be nice. status duration is also ideal for this setup.
Can i use melee influence or not?
Is this viable outside of weekend credit boost event and does this work/stack with Chesa Kubrow?
As the title says, this video was not taken at the event.
Retrieve just rolls the enemy's own drop table again like Desecrate.
whos here from the reddit post in r/warframe
Hello can you reccomend frames for 3-4 persons on a party? thank you!
Chroma, Speed Nova, Effigy protector (e.g., Frost, Limbo, Volt), supporter (e.g., Wisp, Protea, Trinity)
This is just a thought because I've never tried this farm method in squad.
From what I've heard, only the host's Secura Lecta works, so the other three will be support roles that use abilities frequently, including gathering enemies.
If, for example, headshots can trigger the desirable death animations, those three might also be tasked with killing enemies.
Are you using the mr30 credit boost? everytime ive tried doing this im getting half the credit and pickup count, with around 25% less total kills in the same time frame. what would be reccomended for in a riven for the lecta with this method
Credit booster & blessing were used. Less kills are usually due to enemy spawns.
A riven that has some of the attributes used in the build to save mod slots.
What are you specs? When I attempt this my frame rate is pretty stable at the beginning but around 15min in my framerate declines to about 15 to 30 fps and stays there consistently the whole time onward. I have a 3070 and ryz 5 5600x and i also cranked my settings to as low as possible.
3060 ti, Core i5-12400
I set the weapon's energy color to black.
@@jWFlab do you also get considerable slowing in pace at around the 15m mark as well? I started off with really strong credit pace like in your run but it plateud really badly once my fps kinda just stuck at 25
Unfortunately, I have never experienced that or heard of such a story anywhere else.
@@jWFlab I guess ill do more testing to see what might be causing it
I'm having the same issue with my i7-1360H RTX 4050 and it happens as soon as i use lecta on the ensnared enemies with the effects and the effects are low with disabled particles
If I had gone in a Relay and played with credit blessing, it would have given more credits.
I tried it with the same weapon build, the character was an Avenger without the Khora ability and without the secondary, and played a mission on the Uranus Survival planet. It didn't work for any reason :)
Because this method is highly inconsistent, you need to learn in game, test it, discover the spots... Its better to learn Profit Taker, its 100% consistent and its almost the same amount of credit or even higher
Is this possible with nekros, I just subsumed my chroma
just a question please but i am only yielding 1 mill every ten minutes sometimes less with ur full build i thought it still worked and if it does could you tell me what i am doing wrong potentially?
tile, kill speed
Very interesting.
Although this is less effective, using Nautilus’ Cordon + Manifold bond for consistent grouping (as it does not ragdol enemies) and subsuming Atlas’ Petrify with Ore Gaze augment can be an alternative method. Petrified enemies do not ragdol and Nautilus can still put them in, and as a bonus the petrified enemies have lowered “resistances” which can improve kps and the augment can potentially increase enemy credit drops, especially with high strength which Chroma builds anyways.
As for shards, I would slot two Emeralds for full armor strip and mod Nautilus’ weapon with corrosive to aid with the corrosive procs.
Duplex bond should be avoided as the clones will spread the enemy spawns. Restorative bond and Synth Deconstruct for faster sentinel revive.
I believe petrified enemies use the same animations as frozen enemies so that's probably a no go
@@RapTapTap69 ahhh f that’s true
Plus you miss out on prosperous retriever if you use a sentinel
does this works only solo or u can do it with other people ?
Hi with the recent updates, what changes will you make?
Credit booster on companion
secura lecta: *enemy dies* "gimme money!" *enemy twitches after dead* "Gimme more money" *enemy looked at me weird* "GIMME MONEY AGAIN" *friend of enemy dies close by while lecta was watching* "GIMME EVEN MORE MONEY AGAIN!!" *angry greedy lightning noises*
fps affects enemy speed.. wtf? uncapping my fps RN
Very cool never seen anything like this. WIll run it a couple of times but when I get bored I'll just go back to PT again hahaha. Surely I didn't spend all that plat and time min maxing it only to find out there are better ways to make credits quick 😅
What would be a good substitute for the Helmith ability?
I tried to replicate this but I can't seem to get the same amount of credits to drop. I am using larva to group but they're still dying when standing. I can get up to 1000 credits per kill maybe but not nearly the same amount as this. Did they patch this?
Is the larva really making that much of a difference? They're only rag-dolled momentarily.
I tried Larva in simulacrum, and it should work if you kill enemies after they stand up.
Ensnare is better, though, because enemies don't scatter at the end of ability duration and you don't have to wait for them to stand up.
Does this passive works for pseudoexalted weapons? I might have some ideas if it does
unfortunately not
@@jWFlab my dreams got crushed
would probably be ideal to have epitaph with a corrosive build. 1 or 2 shots and it would make for quicker killing with a gas setup. also for anything status related you would undoubtably want a faction mod for double dipping. that would certainly help increase your credit count
Killing them faster can result to the opposite of what you want
Especially of they die too quickly
Can't group up and can't take advantage of gas
YO, since you wanna use toxin on the effigy why subsume the one isnt that the only way you chose the element on the effigy? Which ability is swappable with Khoras?
Oh and also why the secondary? Did i miss something?
The element at the start of the mission is determined by Chroma's first emissive color, so all three abilities except Effigy are swappable.
Any weapon that can kill Acolytes quickly will do. The sporelacer is just one example.
@@jWFlab Thanks for the answer, got the setup done rq pretty nice... gonna try it now
@@jWFlab Oh and one more question which missions are decent for this method?
SP grineer and orokin survivals
is it just an extinguished key you have equipped? or
decaying key only
was dante before the shieldgate changes? decay keys dont help anymore right
It is helpful for Hunter Adrenaline.
@@jWFlab ah makes sense
bro how is it possible to make 8M in 20 mins? i mean, i got 4M with the exact boosters you had
this is back before the smeeta nerf
I mean I would still say that 4mil in 20 min is a success. Are you using prosperous retriever? I haven't been able to get more than a million in 15min. Definitely doing some very wrong I guess
what was the sporelacer used for?
acolytes
Something doesn't seem right. The Effigy gets destroyed instantly, even with a high strength build to increase its HP and being "hidden" exactly as shown in this video. Also, the enemies seem to "dance" when one of the status effects hit them (seems like the gas cloud), causing them to move away from each other, which makes it impossible to stand in place and hit a whole group. Also, the amount of credits dropped are significantly less than shown, even with a smeeta using charm and the Tek mod to extend it.
It seems like "dance" is the cause of all those, but right now I don't know what that means.
@@jWFlab maybe heat proc from effigy
@@jWFlab Something causes what looks like a stagger effect. I still haven't figured out what it is.
Burning Wasp's neutral combo has a guaranteed impact proc, so keep enemies ensnared or use the forward combo.
Are fissures and their extra enemy type worth the credit boost they give?
probably yes
when i try this i tend to fly everywhere but you dont seem to have this issue what could i be doing wrong?
If "fly everywhere" means that you move a lot when killing an enemy, then facing the direction of an enemy with more health left will prevent that from happening.
@@jWFlab is 8 mil per 20 mins with boosters your average because when i am at this exact tile i only get around 4 mil
@@timyolol the enemies going flying are because they are too close to effigy. as for 8 mill in 20 mins.. i just tried this with the weekend booster and i only got 4 mill as well
Has anyone tried this method as of late (jade shadows) want to know cus if this still works at this point in time DE might as well leave it idk I need to know before I try it cus this time I want the universe to use yall as examples not me I had my share so be my test dummies pls, respectfully ❤😭
Might as well grind out Chroma while I'm farming Napalm. 😐 Joy.
You can do literally the same in Lua conj.
nostalgic
i can't maintain the life support it's a bit of a problem any thoughts or improvements
That can happen when you are in a place where it is difficult to gather many enemies, for example because some enemies pulled by Ensnare get stuck on obstacles.
If that happens even though there are a lot of enemies, you can consider using a build that deals more damage.
@@jWFlab i replicated the exact same you did on the run with the dragon key and all but i run out of life support at 6 minutes :/
Is this a different game from the warframe I'm playing??
8:08 taking that as true then switch players are probably s.o.l. Because of the fps hard cap it seems to have on many games, including warframe.