Agreed, wish there was more of these but for some reason people think more bosses makes a better raid. Would much rather see encounters like this with mini bosses along the way. This was such a great encounter on contest mode, but a great example of one that is ruined by champions on master mode..
Not from a speedrunning standpoint but from a good team composition and good execution standpoint, acquisition and caretaker will be my favourite encounters of all time, they reward good execution so well and flow so well as encounters that I can't think of anything that might beat them
How would you rate the jumping puzzles in a speed running sense? Last wish - taken realm Garden - after evade and after concentrated mind Deep Stone - space walk VoG - gorgons Vow - after caretaker Kings fall - ships and before daughters RoN - Before first boss Crota - guess there really isn’t any unless counting shrieker hallway
I know i'm Late but i think a skip Video in General would be really intersting... Kinda Just going over the Skips in the current wr and then maybe a Ranking Like in this Video... Maybe with : consistency difficulty Tech used and the timesave it Provides@@TheAegisRelic
He probably goes over it in the strat portions of the video, but I’m very interested in whether the removal of fall and collision deaths play a significant role in changes to a strat.
Not sure if you are still reading comments on this video, but if you are, I was wondering if you had any plans to go over what makes a primary weapon good in the current sandbox? Not a "ranking all primary weapons" video necessarily, that would take an excessive amount of time, but something to help figure out what we should be using when not using double primary. Love your content btw!
Why is tcrash so good on Atraks? Every traditionally good super seems to struggle to get good damage but tcrash always does insane amounts despite its lower damage.
The supers that have better damage in less than 3 seconds are only blade barrage and Attacks specifically has issues registering damage from lots of little projectiles. Novabomb exists but is just pitiful damage compared to t crash. And Needlestorm has the blade barrage issue
That’s way too much effort and it would be for nothing lol. The only real way to get into speed running most raids is learning from other speed runners and practicing a LOT. There is no way you’d be able to memorize and apply all the strats in a speedrunning video for a raid it’s too much info and you can only practice effectively with other experienced players.
I always like seeing speedruns, and speedruns in this game are always interesting. However, I always wondered that as Bungie buffs or nerfs certain things, how much does that effect strategies and world records. Is it possible that certain times in certain activities are not possible to achieve anymore because of certain balance changes.
people believed that was the case after the sword skating nerf in season of the worthy, but we were still able to break records from before then. most of the time, the power creep of our character far outscales any changes that effect a speedrun over time.
I just discovered your channel so I'm not really familiar with D2 speedrun strats, but it's interesting to see that you're using Mtop in a lot of these clips even though it's sunset. Is it still that good? I've basically retired mine since sunsetting but are there situations now where it's still worth using?
i believe that there is some RNG timeloss in 2nd encounter GOS was watching mgeiners recent speedrun explanation and he says if angelics is not on someones 3rd sub its a reset.
I’d like to hear your take on the changes coming in s23. Many exotics, abilities and weapons you’ve talked about not being useful because enemies in Destiny aren’t really dangerous. How do you think things will shake out with the nerf to orb generation and will other exotics/abilities move up in usefulness or tiers?
descent should still be -1 for rng but not bc of augment pickup locations (that doesnt matter) but bc of the chance of getting far right core and both left dunks which just an automatic +4 to +5
hey recently over the weekend i ran into some guys and ran a few times with em and got a 12:20 dsc time how good is that cause they said it was really good.
I very love Rhulk encounter, it requires a good coordination, like to see speedrunners cooperation in dps strat while procing Verity's, sad to see your low rate.
This kinda makes me want to dabble in some of the “low end” strike speed runs I do again No glitches or anything. I’m not good with any strats. Just skate whenever possible
3rd enc Vow is my fave encounter in the game. Fast paced, high action, controlled chaos. Super fun
you clearly didn't spend 2 hours on it with noobs
@@corvo2913 The clue is in your comment... noobs...
Also one of the most fun lowmans. Trio vow i think made it my favorite d2 raid
Same fr fr
Agreed, wish there was more of these but for some reason people think more bosses makes a better raid. Would much rather see encounters like this with mini bosses along the way.
This was such a great encounter on contest mode, but a great example of one that is ruined by champions on master mode..
Babe wake up, new Aegis upload
Seeing you wellskate into a wall to get really high is always so satisfying lmao
Thank you mr relic for giving me my official opinion on what should be my favorite raid encounters (: Turbo cold comfort dump dps for everything!
Not from a speedrunning standpoint but from a good team composition and good execution standpoint, acquisition and caretaker will be my favourite encounters of all time, they reward good execution so well and flow so well as encounters that I can't think of anything that might beat them
great video, I really like this tierlist because it considers in factors that as a non speedrunner you wouldn't even consider :D
If Crown of Sorrow were still around, I'd be super interested to see where you'd put that opening encounter
Probably mid tier, tedious but optimizable
that encounter would not be as slow as it was back then because of how much stronger our ad clear kits are now
I wish they would bring back crown and scourge, those were so fun
you should rank every single item listed in the API :)
but literally you are the goat thx for the video
Peepo with the Other Half is so cute to look at, I couldn't even begin to play the video
Not even 4 minutes in and already starting an argument with the oryx plates big w
You gave Shuro and Exhibition S tier, once again Aebis you earned my respect 🙏🏽😳
another video from one of the best D2 content creators, lovely.
How would you rate the jumping puzzles in a speed running sense?
Last wish - taken realm
Garden - after evade and after concentrated mind
Deep Stone - space walk
VoG - gorgons
Vow - after caretaker
Kings fall - ships and before daughters
RoN - Before first boss
Crota - guess there really isn’t any unless counting shrieker hallway
I could do a transition/skip ranking that might be interesting
I know i'm Late but i think a skip Video in General would be really intersting... Kinda Just going over the Skips in the current wr and then maybe a Ranking Like in this Video... Maybe with : consistency difficulty Tech used and the timesave it Provides@@TheAegisRelic
He probably goes over it in the strat portions of the video, but I’m very interested in whether the removal of fall and collision deaths play a significant role in changes to a strat.
A little, collision bouncing is a big part of some strats but not game-changing
thanks a lot for the video and your Ranking!
W tier list
Wait all his videos are goated? Always has been 🔫
I am 100% here for the speedrun tierlist arc if you do more fun/subjective tierlists.
very unique and awesome video 😈
Hey, i know this is gonna sound crazy but i met you in, gambit, and i wanted to say your a god
OMG GUYS I MADE IT IN AN AEGIS VIDEOOOOOO
Love how all of VoG is just “no”
It's rough
Im really glad that glitch swappinf fell out of the hoghlight by a lot of bigger channels. Maybe bongo will forget. One can hope
Haven’t played this game in years, used to speedrun garden. Need to get back on try the new strats
Aegis could you give us some common loadputs to use for each subclass
Yeah something like that is coming soonish
@TheAegisRelic thanks bro you a real one
@TheAegisRelic 10 loadouts are not enough, Bungie 😢
Not sure if you are still reading comments on this video, but if you are, I was wondering if you had any plans to go over what makes a primary weapon good in the current sandbox? Not a "ranking all primary weapons" video necessarily, that would take an excessive amount of time, but something to help figure out what we should be using when not using double primary. Love your content btw!
Working on it rn
man that in game chat is wild 😂
:3
Then there - Aegis.
Imma give him 5/5 out of amazing content.
So, yeah. Thanks!
Why is tcrash so good on Atraks? Every traditionally good super seems to struggle to get good damage but tcrash always does insane amounts despite its lower damage.
The supers that have better damage in less than 3 seconds are only blade barrage and Attacks specifically has issues registering damage from lots of little projectiles. Novabomb exists but is just pitiful damage compared to t crash. And Needlestorm has the blade barrage issue
Hitreg issues
I’m shocked that Last Wish doesn’t completely break when you do 2 encounters at once
Im glad you knew I would come for you if you ranked it any lower, and put caretaker in A tier. Bottom of A tier is a fine line but I'll allow it.
you should make guides on how to speedrun each raid.
Will do!
That’s way too much effort and it would be for nothing lol. The only real way to get into speed running most raids is learning from other speed runners and practicing a LOT. There is no way you’d be able to memorize and apply all the strats in a speedrunning video for a raid it’s too much info and you can only practice effectively with other experienced players.
Which Raid speedrun is the hardest to get down in your opinion? Love the content!
RoN, VotD, SE, LW are all pretty tough
I always like seeing speedruns, and speedruns in this game are always interesting. However, I always wondered that as Bungie buffs or nerfs certain things, how much does that effect strategies and world records. Is it possible that certain times in certain activities are not possible to achieve anymore because of certain balance changes.
It's quite annoying but recently it's been alright
people believed that was the case after the sword skating nerf in season of the worthy, but we were still able to break records from before then. most of the time, the power creep of our character far outscales any changes that effect a speedrun over time.
I wish you would’ve did the vaulted raids as well but good video regardless
I asked people if they wanted me to include those and most said no
“LFG can do Simon Says”
Hah. Nice one.
I just discovered your channel so I'm not really familiar with D2 speedrun strats, but it's interesting to see that you're using Mtop in a lot of these clips even though it's sunset. Is it still that good? I've basically retired mine since sunsetting but are there situations now where it's still worth using?
It's purely for movement (height boosting) or dying fast
i believe that there is some RNG timeloss in 2nd encounter GOS was watching mgeiners recent speedrun explanation and he says if angelics is not on someones 3rd sub its a reset.
Yeah I spoke with that team as well as my team and I believe there is a way to completely mitigate that RNG
I’d like to hear your take on the changes coming in s23. Many exotics, abilities and weapons you’ve talked about not being useful because enemies in Destiny aren’t really dangerous. How do you think things will shake out with the nerf to orb generation and will other exotics/abilities move up in usefulness or tiers?
Will talk when new season drops :)
To take a break from tierliest, I made another Tierlist
-Zeus' Shield or something
About time
Crown of sorrow has the best encounters and the worst encounter. I would do things to have the raid back. Maybe even mow someones lawn.
What are your thoughts on the speed runs for the older raid that were removed from d2?
Wasn't around for those unfortunately :P
When is the Aegis' Tierlists Tierlist video?
@ATP
@Aegis I've started wondering after seeing someone use pellet shottys on taniks. What's better, slug or pellet shottys for him?
Pellets
@@TheAegisRelic alr tysm
2nd GOS in S tier? Am I missing something because isn't that universally hated for being so gated? I'm so confused
This is specifically for speedrunning
Lots and Lots and Lots of optimisation... Second gos makes and Breaks every run
Hey Aegis, what do you think are good exotic weapons for GMs this season especially considering the seasonal artifact?
Same as last season rockets (+ new Crux) and Berserker lmao
descent should still be -1 for rng but not bc of augment pickup locations (that doesnt matter) but bc of the chance of getting far right core and both left dunks which just an automatic +4 to +5
That and late deacs I think, I remembered those things after recording the voiceover ngl
hey recently over the weekend i ran into some guys and ran a few times with em and got a 12:20 dsc time how good is that cause they said it was really good.
Current record is 10:00
@@TheAegisRelic sweet id say a 12:20 is solid then
Yeah 12:20 is a great start
Nice!
Are there any places in d2 rn where swordblock boosting is used? for skips and stuff
Not really
:( its so much fun tho.
Hopefully final shape raids/dungeons can use it
IT'S TURDUCKENING TIME
In vog can't you just skip plates? I mean you can skip it through the ground to the left of the encounter
You can but Confluxes doesn't start until entrance is over
Aegis is there a reason why you didn’t mention any strats from skalinx gos? Are you just not aware of it? It’s a 8 minute farm.
LMAO
@@TheAegisRelic I’m guessing you’re replying with that bc it uses a lot of wacky shit that doesn’t quality it for speedruns lol
Limiting is not allowed in RTA speedruns
Not Qualifying for TOS is more Like it 😂@@Shoegaze-
@@DomiBlueShellz like bungie cares lmao
Fire 🔥
Sotp is S tier on this list 100%
I very love Rhulk encounter, it requires a good coordination, like to see speedrunners cooperation in dps strat while procing Verity's, sad to see your low rate.
Yeah it's not bad but it's easily the weakest Vow encounter
interesting to see ngl
FYI I know gmeiners is also starting a speedrun for layman series. Just a heads up to beat all the “stolen content” commenters
May I ask, wtf was the ability in taniks (the solar warlock)
If you’re talking about as they started, that was a wellskate. Looks more dramatic because the screen shake from taniks spawning in animation
VoW is the best Raid to ever exist.
Whats the shotgun or perk on 3:17
The Fourth Horseman
What is a good place to start speed running
Anything you enjoy really, most people find it easier there
So pit of heresy?
@@TheAegisRelicwhen did you or are you going to do dungeon encounters
What sword are you using to fly around like that?
It's just an Eager sword
what is the fastest way to hit powerful cap it takes me so long to
Last wish encounters not being 6 to 1 is aegis biggest L
:D
Shuro ❤
1:05:03 text chat strat real
guys I don’t think aegis likes vog
AHHHHHHH
Gatekeepers getting a 0 for gating... doing their job i suppose 😅 just gatekeeping you from getting a better time 😂
dsc entrance should be way higher
It's pretty unique but not very complex :P
What about the GoS skip where you just skip the entire raid?
That doesn't actually do anything to complete the raid, you do part of that route to pull half the team to boss (3-4 instead of 0-4)
w youtuber
my favourite encounter is crota :)
Now rank every raid encounter in D1 as a speedrunner (I’ll teach you the way)
Best encounte r i n cideo game denstiy 2 is the salavtions garden final boss
WHY DID YHOU HAVE TO USE THAT CLIP for ABYSS ?!?? 😭
hehehehe
This kinda makes me want to dabble in some of the “low end” strike speed runs I do again
No glitches or anything. I’m not good with any strats. Just skate whenever possible
On Gardin is skip just not good/allowed
Huh?
@@TheAegisRelic go's skip from first part to final boss does that just not work or?..
You can't complete the activity without completing the encounters in between
@TheAegisRelic ohh okay I knew there was a skip from 1st lart to last didn't know that the middle part were required
Rank every low man encounter from easiest to hardest.
Do skip tier list next. 😈
Barge not in S tier? Shameful tier list.
W
They couldn’t speed run this video
How do you have 50k likes and 1300 views in an hour?
I definitely do not
@@TheAegisRelicyeah my bad I didn't update correctly, sorry about that
1:05:04 :3
why does your video have 50k likes
dscphobic
yes and no, no comment (>?:
You should involve your community with your content, less of the speedruns and more of the casual stuff, mught be a fun idea if you get bored
Yeah probably later on :)
Speed runners do nothing but to break and ruin the game
so real watdakwan
on god watdakwan
:o
I hope the entirety of garden is F tier