The Butcher on Moze with endless magazines build is insane, the thing never reloads and pukes bullets so fast you nuke down pretty much anything in Mayhem 3
No love for Hellwalker or One Pump Chump due it's synergy with Zane's duct tape mod? Strikes me as something that fits in a list of weapons good for a particular vault hunter.
Yeah. Zane benefits least from the butcher compared to other vault hunters because he has no ammo regen or benefits from being close range. Basically anything that can tear though the mag quickly and has a good reload is good for him. The Flood is a great example.
Caedo Genesis do you know if the double pen prefix is bugged on it? In the item card should it not say (base damage)x2? Cus I got just a regular Laser-sploder in the shock element and it’s got better stats than any double pen prefix ones that I’ve seen. Also the Laser-sploder is stupid rare,been playing the game nonstop for the past 3 weeks and I’ve only found 1 so far.
I have a Zane build that uses the lyuda that insta kills bosses. It uses the digi clone to copy the lyuda and with the drone out I can melt anything. This is because for some reason the place you tell the drone to attack an enemy makes your digi clone to target that exact spot. I have 2 lyudas going at one and they shoot 2 bullets at once and I have a kill skill that makes me shoot 2 rounds at once so I shoot 4 shots at a time. In all I shared anything in my path
Mally B No, there’s a difference. - The Lyuda, Flakker, Butcher, Laser-Sploder... are good on all Vault Hunters. Everyone can use them regardless of builds. - Kings/Queens Call are basically only good on Fl4k. No other Vault Hunter uses them in their build. Same for the Face Puncher. No one cares about melee dmg but Amara. Use some common sense dude.
Arhen Dante has the drone and clone buffs helped at all? I don’t play on mayhem 3 thanks to the silly amount of modifiers so I’m hoping I can still manage mayhem 2 with Zane
@@Cloysterpete they are now useful as additional crowd control instead of just a way to trigger kill skills or speed boost. I have to respec for each boss specifically and I can m3 solo about all of them consistently. Zane is good if you have good gear.
tyson ashline Unfortunately, pretty much everyone still does better with “good gear.” Except that Fl4K basically has to use all the “call” weapons now and even with the buffs, rakk attack is still only useful as an anointed weapon proc skill instead. I’m really hoping that GBX actually tries out their characters and fixes Zane’s skills not even working.
I've been messing around with Zane builds and I made one where I can pretty much kill Captain Traunt in 30 seconds on True Vault Hunter, Mayhem 3.. don't know if that's considered "quick" or "good" but yeah
A purple Jakobs masher pistol can be used to replace Maggie for Moze since it’s proven to have higher DPS as of now. Hopefully they buff the Maggie soon
@@fatbroccoli8 Hollow point does self damage and from what I've heard can kill you pretty easily. I'm also not sure how damage it does. The capstone in demo woman has a 20% chance to proc an explosion that does 75% weapon damage. Afaik, hollow point doesn't scale with weapon damage. A lot of people also don't want to play with guardian rank enabled and have to rely on those skills (e.g. for speedruns, challenge runs etc.) Currently, there's no option to disable guardian rank but it will most likely be added in the future.
So far my favorite weapon with a specific build is the 'Kill o the wisp' Maliwan shotgun with Zane's speed buff and damage build. Shoots out two massive electricity balls that slowly float along and just send out zapping tendrils to anything and everything across it's path. You get two shots with it, expending I believe 6-9 rounds total with the two shots before you need to reload. It's absoluetely amazing and perfect for tearing down shields and just doing extra bits of damage.
bluetooth speaker the guns with the prefix are sometimes better than the original and work better with certain characters that others, the annexed Lyuda might work better for flak then anyone else.
Yeah his picks didn't even work well for zane. The butcher is the least useful on Zane since he has no ammo regen or benefits from being really close to enemies. One pump is also a really good shotgun if you need range and it will help you proc duct tape better. Other than that use the flood or duc. Great reload and fire rate on both. Basically any shotgun with low mag but good reload works though so you're on the right track with the hellwalker
The flood on Moze combined with the infinite ammo when coming out of Bear is a boss deleter, even better when using a class mod to make the infinite ammo last 10 seconds instead of 5
Shocking AAA and Cloud Kill for Amara both do work. I was able to go from level 23 all the way to 38 before I found a pistol better than the Shocking AAA. It completely outperforms other pistols for her and is a lot of fun to use. Cloud Kill adds an aoe elemental cloud to your attacks, and with an elemental build that is extremely good. I would say the AAA is better than the Cloud Kill, but CloudKill is still great.
The 3 legendaries I use on my Amara are the Hornet, Brainstormer, and Hellfire. The 4th slot I have a purple Vladof alien AR with radiation. I think that gun is broken. When the ricochet skill triggers, it lobs the grenades from the gun’s secondary fire mode, and they can ricochet back. If you have infusion, the grenades will sometimes be from your action skill element and they will leave puddles that cause DoTs. It’s apocalyptic against large groups of enemies because the whole area will be covered in radioactive fire. Reminds me of the glowing sea from Fallout 4.
also a good weapon on flak is the hellwalker (doom shotgun), since it is a jakobs it has ricochet on crits and when paired with the ammo back on crit perk you can fire it in succession when you go into fade away, can chew bosses or enemies up.
Cryo Lucian's Call on Amara. Paired w/ shock infusion, it literally freezes everything on the map unless it's an Anointed. Effective against all health bars.
@@AntonioGonzalez-ht5ck That pistol is so damn underrated. I've shredded Mayhem 2 @ Lvl 50 with one I got at Lvl 39, regardless of modifiers. Of course, I had to get another one for Mayhem 3 co-op, but my point stands.
you should honestly farm for a different lyuda, mine is the molten lyuda with only 856 damage but it has a magazine size of 25, and it shreds bosses insanely fast because you dont have to reload as often
The Freeman on Moze is nice if you ever manage to down yourself and want an easy revive,the rocket travels to where your cursor is so you can essentially snipe long range enemies with it,it’s got good damage and blast radius too
Before the nerf to fl4ks ammo return skill speedloadn hellwalker was the absolute best weapon for him. Insanely high damage shotgun turns into infinite ammo assault rifle when you go invisible. Nuke the entire area with the ricochet. Still my go to shotgun
you do know the lyuda has extra projectiles after a certain distance, right? you are not supposed to use it at close range for mobbing. you uswe it to kill bosses. also zane works best with high projectile PS weapons for CCC procs as its probably his best ability, given that half of them are broken.
Amara after the last patch is broken. Her phasecast now has a 3 second cooldown, and her glamour augment now turns enemies into allies so you cant damage them till it is over
The Hellwalker for Amara is excellent. I have an anointed version (generic) that boosts elemental weapon effect chance and damage by 75% on action skill end. That’s a somewhat lucky roll, but pair it with her magazine capacity boost and a mag cap artifact, you can get two shots per reload, which destroys anything in your path.
Imo bottomless fire mag moze is superior to splash moze, the damage is more consistent, plus a 27 round fire lyuda is really nice especially with forge and the headshot ammo Regen perk
So the face-puncher shot gun also benefits from melee mods. So I have an artifact that says melee hits fires a homing rocket so when I shoot that shot gun it fires a rocket. Also have one that attaches a sticky grenade. So it a fun and entertaining shot gun. Side note I’m using fl4k.
The Binary Cutsman SMG for Amara's elemental build absolutely melts everything it touches, it does exceptionally high damage per shot for an SMG, mine doing around 1800 damage, that spreads into a large horizontal line that passes through crowds of enemies and then has a high chance to apply the elemental status to the targets which does TWICE it's damage per shot PER SECOND. Go down to the bottom of the fist of the elements tree to get 18% of your action skill element added to the weapon damage and make sure it's a different element than the gun, and then apply BOTH of those elemental status effects to a boss and watch it get deleted in seconds.
For queens and Kings call if you ha w the Megavore capstone the projectiles that come off the crit can crit themselves. Megavore is awesome especially cause of the nerfs cause you aren’t in fade away as might and you can get crits anywhere on an enemy. Grenades crit, rocket launchers, and even the lightning that connects enemies when using the Brainstormer.
on a elemental amara build you gotta have a elemental conference call, it will destroy every ad in like 2-6 shots depending on relics and shields and it melts valut bosses even faster with some bosses on mayhem 3 getting glitched out trying to skip their immune phases its kinda stupid, but i suggest trying it out
Moze. Health rerouter and flaker. Amara. An elemental face punch Flak. All of the calls. Zane. The one pump chump. (He can get a two pump double chump)
Lucians Call, Rowans’ Call, Queens/ Kings Call and Hellwalker shotgun is all You need of your using Flak. Doesn’t matter what enemy and what difficulty. You will melt through everything in sight. Other options I use are the Butcher and Lyuda. However unfortunately for me, my Lyuda was in the bank and my bank got emptied by the game when I upgraded it to max capacity.
Gonna be real with you, I feel like he just put some random good guns in there because I'd argue that neither is specifically something that'll benefit from being used with Zane. Like, the Butcher is probably better on Fl4k and Moze because they can further reduce the ammo consumption and Fl4k can also make the crits stronger. Also, any heavy weapon is also gonna be better with either Moze because, well, ammo, or with Amara because splash damage. Additionally, basically any high damage shotgun could be in there for the same reasons as the Butcher, it's easy to get a fast kill early on and get your kill skills going. I know that Zane is a very generalist character but we could at least mention cryo guns like the Night Hawkin since Zane does have boosts to cryo and benefits from freezing enemies.
The Devil's Foursum with Shock Damage for Moze. You just slap in a Transformer Shield, a Last Stand Artifact, and speck red/blue for the shield and splash damage synergies.
Why the Double Penetrating Shredding Sploder has had no coverage is odd as it is amazing infact its better than Lucians Call. I've it in Fire and Shock Annointed.
One pump chump is great for Zane . So is masterwork crossbow. They have one bullet clips and Zane has fast reload speed, high damage with the chance to be doubled and having the grenade perk prop more often is pretty good also.
Shows how much time he's put into play testing zane. Zane uses the butcher in the least effective way possible compared to the other vault hunters. Go hellwalker or one pump if you want range. The low mag is great for procing duct tape mod. Jakobs pistols like the flood and duc are also good on him.
Before my PS4 died and I had to get a new one and make new characters, I loved using the kings call even after the nerf because, it was just a good gun and the build I was using would bang out really high critical damage.
i was dissapointed initially with the butcher in bl3 cause i remember it being better in bl2 in the sense that it had a chance to give random amount of ammo back in the clip, instead of just neglecting bullet use like bl3. Luckily a bottomles mag moze restores the oldskool feeling and it feels even stronger now. Such an awesome gun
The Hive on Moze is busted along side a Transformer shield and MIRV-Tastic Hex nades. You are immortal, have infinite rockets and nades even post nerf.
And insane gun for Amara is the Night Hawkin, At least with my build it can hit 24-26k per shot (Critical) and it's a Dahl SMG that shoots 15 bullets per sec. It's insane in my opinion.
You forgot the cutsman with zane. I have one of shock fire and corrosive and run a nuclear lyuda or butcher as backup. The cutsman is just too good not to put up here for zane
2 more guns that literally every fl4k should own are rowans call (no need to explain there) and the magnificent. Magnificent is a vladof pistol that can come with an underbarrel (25% increased fire rate) and can shoot 2 bullets at the same time with the right prefixes. together with it's base fire rate you shoot 13.28*2*1.25= 39.84 bullets per second. Fl4k has a skill in his hunter tree called head count (tier 2) which has a chance to reduce action skill cd by 2 seconds when scoring a crit. Shooting a magazine of the magnificent basically guarantees that you have your action skill back. This combination is so good and requires very few (8) skill points to get that I run it on literally any fl4k build I make.
So I found a legendary I am in love with for FL4K. Hellwalker Shotgun. I'm using a level 46 and melting the Graveward at Mayhem 3 with it pretty well depending on the modifiers but Mayhem 2, I melt it like it's not even there after he throws his punch. I'd highly suggest this as I use it on normal enemies as well and is great to get around with.
Is the Maggie actually worth using on Moze? Like, it's horribly underpowered on all the other characters due to a day-1 fix/nerf greatly reducing the damage. In case you are wondering: Unless you are playing offline in which case you'll get the stats shown in this video, a lv. 50 Maggie will deal around 215x6 damage or 1200 damage with every shot (if you hit every pellet, that is). Considering that you are likely gonna deal less because you won't hit all of the pellets due to the spread and the fact that there are many non-unique guns that greatly outperform the Maggie on a shere damage scale, it's usually a waste of inventory space and the best thing to do with it is place it right in the display case on Sanctuary because it's got a pretty skin. Now, the Maggie has I believe 2 more pellets and a larger magazine than your average run-off-the-mill purple Masher but it has a lot less damage. Do the extra projectiles allow it to outperform the Masher on Moze?
My Favorite guns for Moze are shredifier, Butcher and lyuda. But i use a Shield+endless mag build. I don't Like her explosive playstyle and i'm over all no Fan of torgue Weapons. I prefer Vladof.
Scourge and Hive are some of the best weapons for Moze paired with a stormfront or cryo Hex grenade, her build constantly refills the mag so you can keep shooting the rockets in a way that allows their homing rockets to spawn with the Scourge and it destroys fields of enemies at a time
Zane segment - rocket launcher (only really good on bosses like Graveward) launchers are typically weak just as snipers except for the Lyuda. Then the butcher, which is great for any vault hunter if not even better on others... nothing really special/unique for Zane I guess
Great video can you please do a video with what is a great grenade op and shield and where to get it after all the updates and patch’s because my grenade is super week now and I would love one that can kill everything super fast so I can start farming for them guns 😊
there's a great grenadier grenade build that is till super OP after the patch. Hex nades are the best and strongest in my opinion. especially the ones that spit into 6.
Transformer shield and MIRV Hex grenades (particularly Recurring Hex) are my faves. Storm Front is also really strong by I prefer the Hex since they home in on targets
I like the grenade build for moze but.......I'm sticking with my butcher because that deletes everything faster than grenades and I like playing without the constant sounds of explosions
I actually got Lucians call from a Potty a Potty. Mine is fire but after the recent Flak nerf to crits giving you ammo back the weapons has become great against boss cause you can fire the whole time ur in Fade Away instead if needed to reload like a lot of weapons now. I didn’t think the 2 delay ammo in crit delay would be that big of a deal but it really is.
Don’t have the Crossroad but it looks awesome and I really want to get it for Amara and Flakk. I am curious if the Lead Storm would be good in explosive Moze build.
Darthplagueis13 that’s awesome. I haven’t played my Zane character much when I notice how many of his skills are glitched and not giving you ur full benefit or just completely broken. I’ve more been leveling my explosive Moze and elemental Amara or farming bosses for boss week to get the increase drop of certain legendaries. The Brainstomer is awesome you can get until Oct. from Killavolt. I’ve only used it on Flak but think it will be amazing on Amara. Got Nagata off Gigamind cause I didn’t have a legendary grenade yet. I have bad luck with grenades so far. I just can’t seem to get any of them to drop for me except Nagata. I want a Hex grenade.
I've spent a lot of time with a melee amara and the redundant face puncher is definitely not the play. The deep dive variant seems to drop much more frequently as I've gotten like 20 of them and only 2 redundant versions. Not too mention the deep dive variant has 8 shots vs 6 AND doesnt use 2 ammo per shot. So reloading every 3 or 4 shots versus 8 just clearly is better. Also I tend to see very good additional stats like reload speed and all that good stuff on the deep dive. The redundant does slightly more damage but you cant really see the difference and of course you're hitting them half as often since you spend more time reloading constantly which lowers your dps drastically. Also I really think the cutsman maliwan smg should be in the amara section because whether you're running a melee build or an elemental power build focused on taking advantage of her charge time/fire rate perk it absolutely shreds. Right now I switched off the melee build because running those elemental weapons is just way more effective. Additionally, the deep dive face puncher benefits so much with a melee lifesteal relic and allows you to out heal anything that I've ran into. I usually am unkillable with that build and its thanks to having 8 shots instead of 3 or 4. With the elemental power build there is an elemental weapon lifesteal perk as well which will do the same thing but with any weapon and I love it.
Other weapons I like.. Moze - Hellfire, while a lot of people feel it's not very good and that's fine.. but it can eat through people and with Short Fuse.. oof does it do work. I also really like the Star Helix. It can pack a nice punch when you hit all 3 bullets. As for Grenade.. Recurring Hex. Yesssss sir!!!! That's the bees knees. Even with the nerf on Means of Destruction, I have no issues having endless Grenades lol.
With m'y elementalist build on Amara I use Lucian's Call Corrosif Rowan's Call Fire King's Call Thunder or Smg Crossroad Thunder (with +300% damage After action skill) Quenn's Call radioactive. But I Can use only the queen's call , with a good aim, it break everything.
The scourge is a beast on moze. Fire it over enimies as it get kill stacks each individual tracking rocket gets stronger hitting well over 300k and they can crit so near infinite ammo ive paired it with the shield that drop you heavy ammo and for bosses an amp shield hands down one of best weapons for moze
found a Annexed Jericho on my Moze, thought it was a decent Rocket Launcher, with the whole 4 shot Mortar line, that explodes 3 times, wish it was a level 50 version though, as for the Maggie, i've said it many times in other posts but I love it on Fl4k down the red tree.
Scourge works a lot better if you DON'T shoot it at enemies, instead shoot it above them and it will constantly fire homing rockets. Give it to moze for infinite ammo and it's the only weapon you will ever need, flakker doesn't even come close.
I was maxing out my Moze Build. Finally finished the game once lmao. The thing is, I got pretty bored with Moze after my 10 finishing playthrough and then some for TVHM. And once I hit lvl 50 (first character maxed) I felted my damage was shit. And this is just TVHM with only mayhem 1. I pinned the blame on my guns cause my build is the usual splash/grenade spam. My grenade isn't the best either, but ofc it does better damage than my guns. So I've been taking a break from her and lvling up my other characters. Rn I'm planning on lvling up my Fl4k cause I wanted to diverge myself from playing builds people have made and recommend. I won't be planning on following any builds that I see. Next up would be Zane. Truth be told, I always enjoyed Zane even if his skills were legit broken. I just want to find my soulmate VH. Someone not so boring (cause after playing grenade splash Moze, it's kinda boring basically spamming your grenades. Fun, but boring in the long haul). Fade away also seemed... To appeal a lot to the general players. Just wanted to be different and unique and find something fun. (But my heart will always belong to Krieg ❤️) P.s. I feel like Zane really is my calling, but his broken abilities doesn't want me to play him, either that or I just want to play Zane as my last playthrough character cause deep down inside I know he's going to be my main man. Also for Amara, she's the character I'm playing with friends, so she's excluded in this. 2nd p.s. I really enjoy Zane's skill that allows him to snipe with any weapon regardless of accuracy, shits Gucci af. Cryo is dope too. Doom guy build as well. Probably not gonna do doom guy build tho. Probably just gonna follow what appeals to me.
The Butcher on Moze with endless magazines build is insane, the thing never reloads and pukes bullets so fast you nuke down pretty much anything in Mayhem 3
i use this with 4 different butchers equipped at once lmao its hilarious
not spamming correct? cause when i spam it , the magazine got depleted,.
If you grab the perk fora few seconds of infinite ammo after exciting iron bear the lyuda and butcher are monsters
Thanks
Wow a moze doing a different build rather than spam nades/flakker while not making my fps under 30
Flak 4:20
Zane 8:20
Amara 10:10
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@@christiniakollar8397 Moze is the very start of the video so no need for a timestamp....
"Shoots auto travel rockets as it travels"
- proceeds to shoot the rocket at them not showing how good it really is.
Also never mentions the best way to use the Lyuda is to get far back enough to get all three crits out
You really don't want to sleep on the Cutsman, especially for Amara Elemental builds.
I firmly believe cutsman is top 3 SMG. It shits damage out like crazy idk if it has corrosive naturally but it melts shit literally
That Cutsman dmg with Amara is insane
Cutsman for Amara is brilliant, loving my night hawking too though.
yea i got one with +300% dmg after phaseslam
shane44567 I’ve gotten a fire shock and corrosive one idk if it has all the elements
Maggie lel, shows a unpatched offline version with almost 3 times the damage compared to how most ppl would use it (online).
Deadlift yup I caught that too! I don’t even bother with mine since it’s 236x6 and the masher is like 550x5.
No love for Hellwalker or One Pump Chump due it's synergy with Zane's duct tape mod? Strikes me as something that fits in a list of weapons good for a particular vault hunter.
Yeah. Zane benefits least from the butcher compared to other vault hunters because he has no ammo regen or benefits from being close range. Basically anything that can tear though the mag quickly and has a good reload is good for him. The Flood is a great example.
Havoc 13 if u get his done shield u can get as close as u want
All I needed was mere mention of the beautiful Laser-Sploder
Caedo Genesis do you know if the double pen prefix is bugged on it? In the item card should it not say (base damage)x2? Cus I got just a regular Laser-sploder in the shock element and it’s got better stats than any double pen prefix ones that I’ve seen. Also the Laser-sploder is stupid rare,been playing the game nonstop for the past 3 weeks and I’ve only found 1 so far.
and the nighthawkin. probably the most versatile gun in the game. Much better than the crossroad imo (that just got nerfed)
I have a Zane build that uses the lyuda that insta kills bosses. It uses the digi clone to copy the lyuda and with the drone out I can melt anything. This is because for some reason the place you tell the drone to attack an enemy makes your digi clone to target that exact spot. I have 2 lyudas going at one and they shoot 2 bullets at once and I have a kill skill that makes me shoot 2 rounds at once so I shoot 4 shots at a time. In all I shared anything in my path
Shoulds be titled "for Each Vault Hunter", this makes me think it's a list of legendaries that are great for all vault hunters.
Yeah same, poorly titled video
u can’t play the game without choosing a vault hunter. Obviously he means individually, use some common sense man
Sorry dawg you're just dumb
Mally B but there could easily be legenderies that work well with ALL the vault hunters and not the individual lists he just posted
Mally B No, there’s a difference.
- The Lyuda, Flakker, Butcher, Laser-Sploder... are good on all Vault Hunters. Everyone can use them regardless of builds.
- Kings/Queens Call are basically only good on Fl4k. No other Vault Hunter uses them in their build. Same for the Face Puncher. No one cares about melee dmg but Amara.
Use some common sense dude.
*Best Weapons for each characters' best build(s), except for Zane where it's just generally good weapons because he has no "best" build.*
Arhen Dante has the drone and clone buffs helped at all? I don’t play on mayhem 3 thanks to the silly amount of modifiers so I’m hoping I can still manage mayhem 2 with Zane
@@Cloysterpete they are now useful as additional crowd control instead of just a way to trigger kill skills or speed boost. I have to respec for each boss specifically and I can m3 solo about all of them consistently. Zane is good if you have good gear.
tyson ashline Unfortunately, pretty much everyone still does better with “good gear.” Except that Fl4K basically has to use all the “call” weapons now and even with the buffs, rakk attack is still only useful as an anointed weapon proc skill instead. I’m really hoping that GBX actually tries out their characters and fixes Zane’s skills not even working.
@@kylele23 for sure, Zane is still the weakest by far but he can also do some pretty silly things they just aren't useful
I've been messing around with Zane builds and I made one where I can pretty much kill Captain Traunt in 30 seconds on True Vault Hunter, Mayhem 3.. don't know if that's considered "quick" or "good" but yeah
A purple Jakobs masher pistol can be used to replace Maggie for Moze since it’s proven to have higher DPS as of now. Hopefully they buff the Maggie soon
How about the duc??
@@kaliigamez9728 The idea behind using a masher is that it has a higher chance to proc the capstone skill in moze's demolition woman tree
Noah Benveniste but with guardian ranks doesn’t hollow point do the exact same thing?
@@fatbroccoli8 Hollow point does self damage and from what I've heard can kill you pretty easily. I'm also not sure how damage it does. The capstone in demo woman has a 20% chance to proc an explosion that does 75% weapon damage. Afaik, hollow point doesn't scale with weapon damage. A lot of people also don't want to play with guardian rank enabled and have to rely on those skills (e.g. for speedruns, challenge runs etc.) Currently, there's no option to disable guardian rank but it will most likely be added in the future.
Also, hollow point only procs when you kill an enemy.
So far my favorite weapon with a specific build is the 'Kill o the wisp' Maliwan shotgun with Zane's speed buff and damage build. Shoots out two massive electricity balls that slowly float along and just send out zapping tendrils to anything and everything across it's path. You get two shots with it, expending I believe 6-9 rounds total with the two shots before you need to reload. It's absoluetely amazing and perfect for tearing down shields and just doing extra bits of damage.
Flak with a Rowan's call that deals radiation damage is literally monstrous
Gage Smith I have that exact gun just havnt tried it out yet.
Gage Smith Especially if you had the Hex Grenade. Crazy AoE
I have that got on my friends cube puzzle!!
Agreed it's still good but they nerfed Fl4ks leave no trace perk :/
JasonsOkAtGames Rowan’s call has an effect that returns 2 bullets everytime you critical so there’s no need for leave no trace.
Why does so many people add the prefix when they say the name
bluetooth speaker Because they don‘t know how the weapons in Borderlands work, lol.
Well, some prefixes are fixed, like "Double-Penetrating Occultist" for example.
It really gets on my nerves when they do
@@detrimidextaThat's true but when it isn't a fixed prefix it just really gets on my nervs😅
bluetooth speaker the guns with the prefix are sometimes better than the original and work better with certain characters that others, the annexed Lyuda might work better for flak then anyone else.
Damn no love for Zanegang. How bout the hellwalker so you can be the doomguy?
Yeah his picks didn't even work well for zane. The butcher is the least useful on Zane since he has no ammo regen or benefits from being really close to enemies. One pump is also a really good shotgun if you need range and it will help you proc duct tape better. Other than that use the flood or duc. Great reload and fire rate on both. Basically any shotgun with low mag but good reload works though so you're on the right track with the hellwalker
@@TrueHavoc13 I run Clone/Barrier and the combination of the Deterrence Field augment with a Hellwalker seems really good so far
The flakker here has the prefix cocky, but casual is the best.
The flood on Moze combined with the infinite ammo when coming out of Bear is a boss deleter, even better when using a class mod to make the infinite ammo last 10 seconds instead of 5
Shocking AAA and Cloud Kill for Amara both do work. I was able to go from level 23 all the way to 38 before I found a pistol better than the Shocking AAA. It completely outperforms other pistols for her and is a lot of fun to use. Cloud Kill adds an aoe elemental cloud to your attacks, and with an elemental build that is extremely good. I would say the AAA is better than the Cloud Kill, but CloudKill is still great.
The 3 legendaries I use on my Amara are the Hornet, Brainstormer, and Hellfire. The 4th slot I have a purple Vladof alien AR with radiation. I think that gun is broken. When the ricochet skill triggers, it lobs the grenades from the gun’s secondary fire mode, and they can ricochet back. If you have infusion, the grenades will sometimes be from your action skill element and they will leave puddles that cause DoTs. It’s apocalyptic against large groups of enemies because the whole area will be covered in radioactive fire. Reminds me of the glowing sea from Fallout 4.
also a good weapon on flak is the hellwalker (doom shotgun), since it is a jakobs it has ricochet on crits and when paired with the ammo back on crit perk you can fire it in succession when you go into fade away, can chew bosses or enemies up.
Not since the nerf to his ammo return skill. Before that, it was amazing.
I dont have my PS4 hooked up to the internet, but the nerf to Without a Trace seems like it would borderline kill the build. Is it as bad as it seems?
I swear to god if Lilith calls me “Killer” one more FUCKING time...
So weird hearing all these youtubers saying legendary weapon names with the prefix included since the prefix varies from gun to gun
It’s because they are not OG
Cryo Lucian's Call on Amara. Paired w/ shock infusion, it literally freezes everything on the map unless it's an Anointed. Effective against all health bars.
If your running a high elemental damage build for Amara, the Tsunami smg is pretty great
Imma give a shoutout to the hellshock maliwan pistol
@@AntonioGonzalez-ht5ck That pistol is so damn underrated. I've shredded Mayhem 2 @ Lvl 50 with one I got at Lvl 39, regardless of modifiers. Of course, I had to get another one for Mayhem 3 co-op, but my point stands.
i disagree on the maggie, the purple masher quest reward from eden 6 is a better option
Don't think he knows about the nerf 🤔shouldn't be in here the way it is now
you should honestly farm for a different lyuda, mine is the molten lyuda with only 856 damage but it has a magazine size of 25, and it shreds bosses insanely fast because you dont have to reload as often
Rowans call on amara is amazing for elemental builds. I’ve got both fire and radiation, they do work.
The Freeman on Moze is nice if you ever manage to down yourself and want an easy revive,the rocket travels to where your cursor is so you can essentially snipe long range enemies with it,it’s got good damage and blast radius too
Ogre is great with moze due to the splash damage as it fires explosive rounds and gets a great boost from ammo regen
Pair Amara's face puncher with an artifact that has a 30% chance to attach a sticky grenade, trust me it's incredible.
The sound the bombs make when they attach is great
Where do you get that shotgun is it a world drop or a boss?
@@shaun10767 It's a world drop unfortunately. I have gotten a few from the grave ward though
@@Goooooon84 thank you but I'm on Xbox 😭
@@Seb0Central the amount of times I killed grave during his increased drops event I haven't seen a single one and only got his rocket launcher once
Before the nerf to fl4ks ammo return skill speedloadn hellwalker was the absolute best weapon for him. Insanely high damage shotgun turns into infinite ammo assault rifle when you go invisible. Nuke the entire area with the ricochet. Still my go to shotgun
I'm not 100% sure, but the Thunderball Fist seems to scale with melee damage like the face puncher
Those 2 are my main weapons for melee Amara
you do know the lyuda has extra projectiles after a certain distance, right? you are not supposed to use it at close range for mobbing. you uswe it to kill bosses.
also zane works best with high projectile PS weapons for CCC procs as its probably his best ability, given that half of them are broken.
My lyuda has 45 rounds, fire. Moze has 45k shield and 100% shock resist. That's the best setup ive found.
Amara after the last patch is broken. Her phasecast now has a 3 second cooldown, and her glamour augment now turns enemies into allies so you cant damage them till it is over
The Hellwalker for Amara is excellent. I have an anointed version (generic) that boosts elemental weapon effect chance and damage by 75% on action skill end. That’s a somewhat lucky roll, but pair it with her magazine capacity boost and a mag cap artifact, you can get two shots per reload, which destroys anything in your path.
Laser Sploder rifle on Amara dishes out crazy status effects & Shocking AAA pistol does great damage even to health despite being shock.
Imo bottomless fire mag moze is superior to splash moze, the damage is more consistent, plus a 27 round fire lyuda is really nice especially with forge and the headshot ammo Regen perk
So the face-puncher shot gun also benefits from melee mods. So I have an artifact that says melee hits fires a homing rocket so when I shoot that shot gun it fires a rocket. Also have one that attaches a sticky grenade. So it a fun and entertaining shot gun. Side note I’m using fl4k.
There's nothing more satisfying than watching the One Pump Chump kill 1/8th of the enemies with just one shot.
The Binary Cutsman SMG for Amara's elemental build absolutely melts everything it touches, it does exceptionally high damage per shot for an SMG, mine doing around 1800 damage, that spreads into a large horizontal line that passes through crowds of enemies and then has a high chance to apply the elemental status to the targets which does TWICE it's damage per shot PER SECOND.
Go down to the bottom of the fist of the elements tree to get 18% of your action skill element added to the weapon damage and make sure it's a different element than the gun, and then apply BOTH of those elemental status effects to a boss and watch it get deleted in seconds.
Alien Barrel Maliwan or Hyperion Shotguns are ridiculous on moze and let's you have "a mini flakker for each element"
Imma say the hellshock maliwan pistol would be great for any kind of elemental build.
For queens and Kings call if you ha w the Megavore capstone the projectiles that come off the crit can crit themselves. Megavore is awesome especially cause of the nerfs cause you aren’t in fade away as might and you can get crits anywhere on an enemy. Grenades crit, rocket launchers, and even the lightning that connects enemies when using the Brainstormer.
Hawkin is insane on amara with the cryo and flame damage due for an elemental build
The Cutsman SMG is very powerful on Amara, especially with the elemental build.
on a elemental amara build you gotta have a elemental conference call, it will destroy every ad in like 2-6 shots depending on relics and shields and it melts valut bosses even faster with some bosses on mayhem 3 getting glitched out trying to skip their immune phases its kinda stupid, but i suggest trying it out
Moze. Health rerouter and flaker.
Amara. An elemental face punch
Flak. All of the calls.
Zane. The one pump chump. (He can get a two pump double chump)
I feel like a good SMG for an elemental amara build would be the shark tsunami
Lucians Call, Rowans’ Call, Queens/ Kings Call and Hellwalker shotgun is all You need of your using Flak. Doesn’t matter what enemy and what difficulty. You will melt through everything in sight.
Other options I use are the Butcher and Lyuda. However unfortunately for me, my Lyuda was in the bank and my bank got emptied by the game when I upgraded it to max capacity.
Lucia’s call, in Cryo, with bottles mags moze.
Gonna be real with you, I feel like he just put some random good guns in there because I'd argue that neither is specifically something that'll benefit from being used with Zane. Like, the Butcher is probably better on Fl4k and Moze because they can further reduce the ammo consumption and Fl4k can also make the crits stronger. Also, any heavy weapon is also gonna be better with either Moze because, well, ammo, or with Amara because splash damage. Additionally, basically any high damage shotgun could be in there for the same reasons as the Butcher, it's easy to get a fast kill early on and get your kill skills going.
I know that Zane is a very generalist character but we could at least mention cryo guns like the Night Hawkin since Zane does have boosts to cryo and benefits from freezing enemies.
And night Hawkin is an amazing gun on everyone to start with some with Zanes buffs and use of cryo... daaang
Brainstormer truly is an amara kinda weapon 😂👍🏻
The Devil's Foursum with Shock Damage for Moze. You just slap in a Transformer Shield, a Last Stand Artifact, and speck red/blue for the shield and splash damage synergies.
The ogre is godly for a moze splash build, I got it to drop from the skag on the homestead mission
i dont know... i dont like the ogre i got a double penetrating one and still i find myself using flakker and lasersplodder way more often.
play what your like to play. not for me, i hate it.
Ogre ist fine but did you try the dp laser sploder?
Why the Double Penetrating Shredding Sploder has had no coverage is odd as it is amazing infact its better than Lucians Call. I've it in Fire and Shock Annointed.
the guns you picked for zane has nothing to do with his skills, and dont really fit him in my opinion
One pump chump is great for Zane . So is masterwork crossbow. They have one bullet clips and Zane has fast reload speed, high damage with the chance to be doubled and having the grenade perk prop more often is pretty good also.
Shows how much time he's put into play testing zane. Zane uses the butcher in the least effective way possible compared to the other vault hunters. Go hellwalker or one pump if you want range. The low mag is great for procing duct tape mod. Jakobs pistols like the flood and duc are also good on him.
@@TrueHavoc13 I don't think Zane is popular..
@@TrueHavoc13 I actually use both of those on Zane its really effective
Lucias call cyro with brain freeze when hitting critical with it you freezing everyone around you cause of the bullets ricochet
Before my PS4 died and I had to get a new one and make new characters, I loved using the kings call even after the nerf because, it was just a good gun and the build I was using would bang out really high critical damage.
I heard lucian's call works fine with zane too.
The queens call on amara is brutal if u get those criticals on bosses and mobs
i was dissapointed initially with the butcher in bl3 cause i remember it being better in bl2 in the sense that it had a chance to give random amount of ammo back in the clip, instead of just neglecting bullet use like bl3. Luckily a bottomles mag moze restores the oldskool feeling and it feels even stronger now. Such an awesome gun
One that really shouldn't be used on Zane since he has no ammo regen.
The Hive on Moze is busted along side a Transformer shield and MIRV-Tastic Hex nades. You are immortal, have infinite rockets and nades even post nerf.
You should have shown the Companion pistol for fl4k. Critical hits cause 100% fire damage so it's amazing
Bangarang for amara, by rapidly shooting and reloading it you can get a ton of bullets in the air at once.
10:21 How can the crossroad shoot a 6 round burst of 4 bullets each if 6 round burst means 6 bullets in the burst?
And insane gun for Amara is the Night Hawkin, At least with my build it can hit 24-26k per shot (Critical) and it's a Dahl SMG that shoots 15 bullets per sec. It's insane in my opinion.
props to you for pronouncing Lyuda correctly!! as a Russian person, I appreciate it
the drakonishe I have totally been sayin that wrong for ever. My bad, that would annoy me too
You forgot the cutsman with zane. I have one of shock fire and corrosive and run a nuclear lyuda or butcher as backup. The cutsman is just too good not to put up here for zane
Kody Fulton cuts an is amazing for everyone
Woodblocker sniper is pretty good for FL4K, too... with the right skills and perks
2 more guns that literally every fl4k should own are rowans call (no need to explain there) and the magnificent. Magnificent is a vladof pistol that can come with an underbarrel (25% increased fire rate) and can shoot 2 bullets at the same time with the right prefixes. together with it's base fire rate you shoot 13.28*2*1.25= 39.84 bullets per second. Fl4k has a skill in his hunter tree called head count (tier 2) which has a chance to reduce action skill cd by 2 seconds when scoring a crit. Shooting a magazine of the magnificent basically guarantees that you have your action skill back. This combination is so good and requires very few (8) skill points to get that I run it on literally any fl4k build I make.
I’m big fan of using COV launchers for Zane in clone builds. Just throw him inside a bubble shield and he just goes to town.
So I found a legendary I am in love with for FL4K. Hellwalker Shotgun. I'm using a level 46 and melting the Graveward at Mayhem 3 with it pretty well depending on the modifiers but Mayhem 2, I melt it like it's not even there after he throws his punch. I'd highly suggest this as I use it on normal enemies as well and is great to get around with.
Ah, getting your inner Doom Slayer on with that one, eh?
drbowser166 lol good luck getting any dps with that thing jn mayhem 3 with the LNT nerf
MOAR can drop with +120% melee for that melee siren build that face punch is awesome tho
Is the Maggie actually worth using on Moze? Like, it's horribly underpowered on all the other characters due to a day-1 fix/nerf greatly reducing the damage. In case you are wondering: Unless you are playing offline in which case you'll get the stats shown in this video, a lv. 50 Maggie will deal around 215x6 damage or 1200 damage with every shot (if you hit every pellet, that is). Considering that you are likely gonna deal less because you won't hit all of the pellets due to the spread and the fact that there are many non-unique guns that greatly outperform the Maggie on a shere damage scale, it's usually a waste of inventory space and the best thing to do with it is place it right in the display case on Sanctuary because it's got a pretty skin.
Now, the Maggie has I believe 2 more pellets and a larger magazine than your average run-off-the-mill purple Masher but it has a lot less damage. Do the extra projectiles allow it to outperform the Masher on Moze?
My Favorite guns for Moze are shredifier, Butcher and lyuda. But i use a Shield+endless mag build. I don't Like her explosive playstyle and i'm over all no Fan of torgue Weapons. I prefer Vladof.
Scourge and Hive are some of the best weapons for Moze paired with a stormfront or cryo Hex grenade, her build constantly refills the mag so you can keep shooting the rockets in a way that allows their homing rockets to spawn with the Scourge and it destroys fields of enemies at a time
What no cutsman?!?!?!? Its an amazing gun for amara, absolutely shreds trash mobs
Zane segment - rocket launcher (only really good on bosses like Graveward) launchers are typically weak just as snipers except for the Lyuda. Then the butcher, which is great for any vault hunter if not even better on others... nothing really special/unique for Zane I guess
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the Arctic night Hawking from Dahl for Zane
Great video can you please do a video with what is a great grenade op and shield and where to get it after all the updates and patch’s because my grenade is super week now and I would love one that can kill everything super fast so I can start farming for them guns 😊
Olivia Edwards the hex or storm front grenade are the strongest
there's a great grenadier grenade build that is till super OP after the patch. Hex nades are the best and strongest in my opinion. especially the ones that spit into 6.
Transformer shield and MIRV Hex grenades (particularly Recurring Hex) are my faves. Storm Front is also really strong by I prefer the Hex since they home in on targets
I like the grenade build for moze but.......I'm sticking with my butcher because that deletes everything faster than grenades and I like playing without the constant sounds of explosions
I actually got Lucians call from a Potty a Potty. Mine is fire but after the recent Flak nerf to crits giving you ammo back the weapons has become great against boss cause you can fire the whole time ur in Fade Away instead if needed to reload like a lot of weapons now. I didn’t think the 2 delay ammo in crit delay would be that big of a deal but it really is.
Don’t have the Crossroad but it looks awesome and I really want to get it for Amara and Flakk. I am curious if the Lead Storm would be good in explosive Moze build.
@@ineedmoneysp Crossroads can also be stupidly powerful on Zane if you get it in Cryo. Freezes stuff almost instantly.
Darthplagueis13 that’s awesome. I haven’t played my Zane character much when I notice how many of his skills are glitched and not giving you ur full benefit or just completely broken. I’ve more been leveling my explosive Moze and elemental Amara or farming bosses for boss week to get the increase drop of certain legendaries. The Brainstomer is awesome you can get until Oct. from Killavolt. I’ve only used it on Flak but think it will be amazing on Amara. Got Nagata off Gigamind cause I didn’t have a legendary grenade yet. I have bad luck with grenades so far. I just can’t seem to get any of them to drop for me except Nagata. I want a Hex grenade.
What,no Jackob's shot gun to recommend for Fl4k ?!
I've spent a lot of time with a melee amara and the redundant face puncher is definitely not the play. The deep dive variant seems to drop much more frequently as I've gotten like 20 of them and only 2 redundant versions. Not too mention the deep dive variant has 8 shots vs 6 AND doesnt use 2 ammo per shot. So reloading every 3 or 4 shots versus 8 just clearly is better. Also I tend to see very good additional stats like reload speed and all that good stuff on the deep dive. The redundant does slightly more damage but you cant really see the difference and of course you're hitting them half as often since you spend more time reloading constantly which lowers your dps drastically. Also I really think the cutsman maliwan smg should be in the amara section because whether you're running a melee build or an elemental power build focused on taking advantage of her charge time/fire rate perk it absolutely shreds. Right now I switched off the melee build because running those elemental weapons is just way more effective. Additionally, the deep dive face puncher benefits so much with a melee lifesteal relic and allows you to out heal anything that I've ran into. I usually am unkillable with that build and its thanks to having 8 shots instead of 3 or 4. With the elemental power build there is an elemental weapon lifesteal perk as well which will do the same thing but with any weapon and I love it.
Hellfire for Moze is probably the best VH to get the most out of it.
got a annexed 2x lyuda fire version, not even funny how fast bosses melt even with incendiary debuff on mayhem mode
Fuck I want that
You on ps4?
The headsplosion is pretty sweet on moze and fl4k for different reasons.
Other weapons I like.. Moze - Hellfire, while a lot of people feel it's not very good and that's fine.. but it can eat through people and with Short Fuse.. oof does it do work. I also really like the Star Helix. It can pack a nice punch when you hit all 3 bullets. As for Grenade.. Recurring Hex. Yesssss sir!!!! That's the bees knees. Even with the nerf on Means of Destruction, I have no issues having endless Grenades lol.
With m'y elementalist build on Amara I use
Lucian's Call Corrosif
Rowan's Call Fire
King's Call Thunder or Smg Crossroad Thunder (with +300% damage After action skill)
Quenn's Call radioactive.
But I Can use only the queen's call , with a good aim, it break everything.
If you want a couple laser sploders in various elements to test out, let me know. Happy to share.
you forgot the roisen thorns on moze with the limitless mag it will feed itself with ammo and keep her grenades up
Fire lyuda with a elematal projector artifact and either a weapon or granade that can set you in fire literally melts everything
The scourge is a beast on moze. Fire it over enimies as it get kill stacks each individual tracking rocket gets stronger hitting well over 300k and they can crit so near infinite ammo ive paired it with the shield that drop you heavy ammo and for bosses an amp shield hands down one of best weapons for moze
You can also weapon swap to a gun with high +weapon damage% after you fire the Scourge to get some stupid damage this also works with the Flakker too.
Deffinatly the tsunami with amara.... dealing normal bullet damage, electric damage and corrosive damage
found a Annexed Jericho on my Moze, thought it was a decent Rocket Launcher, with the whole 4 shot Mortar line, that explodes 3 times, wish it was a level 50 version though, as for the Maggie, i've said it many times in other posts but I love it on Fl4k down the red tree.
Get a Jacob masher pistol for Flak, Maggie's damage is really low compared to one of those.
Scourge works a lot better if you DON'T shoot it at enemies, instead shoot it above them and it will constantly fire homing rockets. Give it to moze for infinite ammo and it's the only weapon you will ever need, flakker doesn't even come close.
Did you make sure the mayhem modifiers were bad cause with my average Amara build im shreading things way faster with no boosts to my damage
Can you get the Flakker in all elements because I have a radiation one so I'm just curious.
I seen a burning flakker which is incendiary
@@kidhypez a fire Flakker seems extremely strong.
@@midnightblaze4313 I heard it is
OmniDeus Never seen an elemental Flakker so I really hope I get one to drop now
the ogre for moze is🔥🔥🔥
I was maxing out my Moze Build. Finally finished the game once lmao. The thing is, I got pretty bored with Moze after my 10 finishing playthrough and then some for TVHM. And once I hit lvl 50 (first character maxed) I felted my damage was shit. And this is just TVHM with only mayhem 1. I pinned the blame on my guns cause my build is the usual splash/grenade spam. My grenade isn't the best either, but ofc it does better damage than my guns. So I've been taking a break from her and lvling up my other characters. Rn I'm planning on lvling up my Fl4k cause I wanted to diverge myself from playing builds people have made and recommend. I won't be planning on following any builds that I see. Next up would be Zane. Truth be told, I always enjoyed Zane even if his skills were legit broken. I just want to find my soulmate VH. Someone not so boring (cause after playing grenade splash Moze, it's kinda boring basically spamming your grenades. Fun, but boring in the long haul). Fade away also seemed... To appeal a lot to the general players. Just wanted to be different and unique and find something fun. (But my heart will always belong to Krieg ❤️)
P.s. I feel like Zane really is my calling, but his broken abilities doesn't want me to play him, either that or I just want to play Zane as my last playthrough character cause deep down inside I know he's going to be my main man. Also for Amara, she's the character I'm playing with friends, so she's excluded in this.
2nd p.s. I really enjoy Zane's skill that allows him to snipe with any weapon regardless of accuracy, shits Gucci af. Cryo is dope too. Doom guy build as well. Probably not gonna do doom guy build tho. Probably just gonna follow what appeals to me.