20lb snow load version on Amazon Four Seasons Outdoor Living Solutions - TWV Series 20’ x 8’ High-Grade Aluminum Attached Solid Patio Cover Awning amzn.to/3i4kPdk
You saved my day. Bought one of these a couple years ago. Circumstances lead to me just now installing it. Opened up all the boxes and found no instructions. Your link to Lowe’s lead me to downloadable instructions. Thank you so much for the video and links to the product. The video was also helpful.
Thank you very much for her your service and this video. We had a aluminum wood patio installed years ago. We decided to close it up big Windows all around. The guy put in the windows drilled holes into our drip gutter and when the heavy rain came the water came into the room. It was the disaster it was like a waterfall coming through the windows. You gave us ideas on how to open up the gutter re -caulk the nails, reseal and close up the gutter then add flashing. We are always open to suggestions please let me know if you got any ideas. 😊
I have an awning like that. I had to remove it for some construction - a roof and remove rotten wood from built-in gutters. The contractor put shorter facia boards up and now I have to try to reinstall it by adding some kind of board. Your video shows how I can put it back together. I myself removed it so I think the only thing I need are screws, caulking and the header board. I still have the posts standing. I scrubbed each panel off and am going to paint with galvanized zinc paint. What I did notice from having it on for 8 years is moss would grow on it and it was impossible to reach. So I'm hoping this spray will help with that. Thanks for showing. I hope you are enjoying it!
Thank you Sheri, I hope your re-install goes well. We have really enjoyed our awning. It has been one of the best improvements we have made to our back yard area.
We are at the beginning of this awning project and this overview nailed it. Liked and subscribed. One tiny “rub” for me as a woman ( handy but less experience with big projects) was the phrase “the wife”. “My wife” sounds better to me. No offence, just humble feedback. Looking forward to future videos. Thank you for the quality and care. 😊
quick tip, shine a flashlight through the soffit holes, or use a small nail or bit of wire to locate the rafter tails without having to remove the soffit edges!
Awesome work and great looking finished project. I was just surfing the “web” so to speak and saw your project, very clean and well done. I Thank you for your service Sir, our Son is attending College for his 4 year degree to join the Air Force. Salute.
EXACTLY what i was looking for .. going to do this for my RV ... contractor has quoted me 3800 ... amazon kit is 1880.+ tax .. so a little sweat equity will save me 2K!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I live in southern Colorado myself and I've been hoping to get a patio awning up in the backyard of my new home! Hoping for the best!
I like the way you think. I think the same way. I was going to put a roof over my so this summer and was going to use LVLs and 2x6 purlins. Now I'm going all steel. If I were a builder I would use ICF.
I agree Phillip! If you have to pay a premium you might as well use premium materials. How are you liking that YesWelder MIG 250 Pro? I hope it is doing everything you need it to.
Great job. I ordered a 16 footer from Home Depot after watching this vid. Only complaint I have is there was NO instructions anywhere with the kit. Thankfully I was able to refer to this vid a few times just to see the orientation of a few parts.
Mine did not come with printed instructions either. I had to access them online. I'm glad you were able to assemble your kit via my video. Enjoy your new awning, we are really enjoying ours.
Thank you! It would be real nice with the screening. I'm going to have to look into that. I wasn't aware they had screening kits for the simple awning.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 If you go to the Four Seasons site they have a variety of different options. Some as simple as integrated screen systems that can be dropped or raised and other more permanent options. Since money doesn't grow on trees I planned on doing the porch one year and then adding the screen system the next
Looks like a lot more work and skill required, than a normal HO would have. A possible solution if had to have the patio cover by this particular maker...would be to purchase it AFTER you had a labor bid to have it installed professionally by a well rated installer. And it might even be cost effective just to get bids from several local contractors, for parts/labor, using their own preferred aluminum patio cover maker...and to fit your own patio.
Es un excelente trabajo, pero no veo porque tenga que compararse una sobre la otra son dos cosas diferentes incluso opciones pero no mejor una que otra!!!, ambas son grandiosas!
FYI: "If mounting to a wood deck, the deck sub-framing at post locations should be beefed up and lag screws should be used to fasten the heavy duty bottom post brackets through the deck boards into the subframing. (*DO NOT ATTACH TO DECK BOARDS ONLY*)" - Four Seasons.
I have a deck that has vinyl on top. Underneath the deck is a finished living space for. How do I mount the posts to ensure Im biting into the joice and not just plywood.
Hiya! Thank you so much for this video! So much better than the 4 Seasons one. One question - we’re completely stuck at panel installation stage. Can’t get the panels to snap into each other. You mention that it was hard for you as well, but any tips at all to get us unstuck? Start on one side and move inward? Start inward and move out? Keep one side out of the channel etc Will take any tips! Thank you!
We started with two panels on the ground to test fit them together and see how they snapped together. You have to tilt one panel about a 30 or 40 degree to the other as you line up the edges that snap together. Then bend the angled panel flat with the other. When the fit is correct it should kind of snap together then work the "snap" down the seam until they are both joined. When you put them together up on the awning off set the ends of the panels about 1/2" or so so the back edge can clear the channel that is installed on the house. You can't put them together with the end in the channel on the house because you won't be able to tilt the panel 30 or 40 degrees. Once you have them snapped together you should be able to lay them both flat and slide the last piece back that 1/2" or so into the channel. Once you get it figured out doing one or two you'll be able to use this method and it will go fairly smooth. The trick is the tilt angle to start and then making sure they are "snapped together as you lay them flat then into the channel on the house. Hope this helps and I wish you the best on your project.
Neighbors put up one of these right before “Snowmageddon” here in east Texas. It didn’t survive. I’m sure it had no snow rating to it since we mostly never get snow.
I build these everyday for a living. I work for a company that sells to local customers and I’m very familiar with all products from four seasons. I think it’s awesome to watch a diy video of the work I do everyday. And this build is pretty basic. I call it the “hanging channel” what you slide your flat pans into. I was just curious as to why your kit didn’t come with sleeves to go over your 3x3 fluted posts? It would leave the finish a lot nicer.
I would also like to know why it didn't come with the sleeves to go over the posts. I was thinking it's a shame they didn't come up with something to hide the large bolts that attach the posts.
Thanks for posting Matt! I am strongly considering this over a traditional wood and shingle porch. I like the clean lines and lower maintenance. Would you say in confidence that these Four Seasons porches are reliable and relatively issue free? I was considering the insulated version but thought it would be a waste as we dont get too much direct sun.
Since you do this for a living, had a question! I bought five 2x10 corrugated steel panels, and the old fashioned black metal pillars. How can I make that into a porch overhang only buying metal. I do not want to buy wood
Thanks for sharing this as this is the first one I have seen that is s real DIY using this system by a homeowner. Also very succinct in your presentation without all the unwanted music or other distractions we see in so many of these contents. It sure appears very cost-effective and hopefully maintenance-free for many years. We have been looking into installing a similar awning over our Deck and this will surely be one of the top choices. BTW can you comment on whether the roof panels are sturdy enough that you can walk on the roof? Rama in NC
Thank you Rama, I appreciate your nice comment. I don't believe walking on this roof would be a good idea. The 30lb snow load version we purchased might be able to hold the weight of walking but I wouldn't do it unless it was absolutely necessary. If I did have to walk on it I would lay down a 2' by 4' minimum sheet of plywood to spread the weight over a large area. Also the support track that connects this awning to the facia is only held on with some 4" long #10 or so screws. I think that area would be the weak point for supporting walking. Hope this helps you out and good luck with your project if and when you decide to build one. Thanks for watching!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thanks for the feedback. I didn't think it would be safe to walk but was not sure if the instructions came with any cautionary notes re this. I also found some products advertised that are used as "structural roof panels" with styrofoam-filled insulations but not sure if they are available for DIY installations.
I could not use this kit. I’ve got 70ft pine trees all over my property in Florida, the way the gutter works ide have to be up there every few days during the summer to clean that out. Looks good though!
Thank you so much for posting! I was considering doing the traditional wood and shingle porch but with lumber prices looked for cheaper and less maintenance alternatives. I found the Four Seasons Optima 22x12 with 40 pound snow load (req in NE) and looked all over for some videos and found yours. It was exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any pointers? Would you say the project would be fairly straight forward for someone who has built a traditional wood and shingle porch? Thanks again as I enjoyed watching and will be showing this to my Dad for his thoughts (he is more traditional wood guy but with prices this video might change his opinion)
Norm, I would say the instillation is pretty strait forward. The part I like the best is I will never have to worry about paint, wood rot or replacing shingles. Once it's done it's done! That is worth the cost in my opinion. Good luck with your project.
Sounds great Mike, have fun with your project. I don't know what size anchors for mounting to brick. I didn't have any brick to mount to so I didn't do any research on that subject.
I'm just curious. How well has it been holding up with all the snow in CO? I'm getting ready to decide on what I'm going to use on mine. Aluminum, or wood with a metal roof or clear plastic roof. In Dayton, OH
The Aluminum patio cover has been holding up well. No issues since we installed it and we are very happy with it! I wish you the best with your project!
I’m considering doing an insulated roof panel system. Is your patio roof noisy in the rain? I’d do something like this to save money if it’s not too noisy.
It can be noisy if you’re under it and it’s really pouring out. We don’t get a lot of rain here so it hasn’t been an issue for us. It’s not as noisy as a regular tin roof. I wish you the best.
Thank you for this presentation because it's precisely what I needed to complete my project. The only hang ups I had came from when I began installing the roof panels. Little buggers gave me some major problems! Your video was the only one I can locate that demonstrates the assembly of this brand. I'm still working on it, but I'm doing it by myself so it's real slow going. I was hoping to read some suggestions in the comments of this vid, but none so far... Oh and aluminum is just better at the house, any way you look at it imo
How did you do? I am reinstalling mine by myself. I had to take it off because I had built in gutters that rotted the wood and get a new roof. I have to buy a new "header" board or whatever it is called that you hook the panels to the house with. I am spraying it with a galvanized zinc coating to help with the moss. I left the end posts all intact. Hope it went well and you are enjoying it.
Thanks for the video. The printed instructions are a bit confusing at times. As an example, the instructions state for the legs to measure 15" & 18". Does that mean that 1 leg is over 15" and the other 18"? Is that to the center of the brackets? does it matter which end is 15" and which is 18"?
I agree Floyd, the instructions are a bit confusing at times. It's been a couple of years since I looked at the instructions. Sorry but I don't remember any specifics about that section you mention with the legs.
No, it didn't make the room dark, we still get plenty of light through the doors and windows. It did however make the room much cooler for a longer period of time through the day. That's exactly what we wanted in addition to having the shade on the patio.
Thank for a great video. Certainly gives me ideas. Where I live white aluminum gets pretty dirty from some sort of tree sap product. It’s nearly impossible to clean. My only other concern about this cover is that it seems that there are a lot of places were wasps might Climb inside and build a nest. Have you had any problems with either issue? Thanks again
Our awning has only been up for about a week so we haven't had any of those problems yet. We don't have any trees in our back yard so I don't think the sap will be a problem for us. I am concerned about potential wasp nests because we do have wasps here. I have made two wasp control videos here. th-cam.com/video/4yNGo6KtJEs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/NRtbDFNPg_g/w-d-xo.html Time will tell how well they do in controlling the wasp problems with a structure like this aluminum awning. I'll be keeping a close eye on the issue. Thank you for the comment and good questions.
You can attach the post to what ever you want. Remember that the awning will only be as strong as what you mount the posts to. This is especially important when a gust of wind comes along. Attaching them to pavers only could be disastrous in the wind. The awning could lift and be destroyed if a wind comes along.
I'm sorry Robert, I was confused with that step too. The instructions were not very helpful with that step. I just tinkered with them until I was able to make them fit and look descent. I really can't explain how I did it, I just made them work. :(
The scupper drains work well for draining the awning gutter but I really need a downspout to help direct where the water goes. We don't get much rain where I live so it hasn't been a huge issue for us.
I have watched your video several times, thank you for sharing! I starting assembling our same patio cover today, 10+18. I have to say assembly of hanger brackets I was shocked this whole cover rest in that little channel. The Hanger has some play also. I have to question this design, seeing my channel come right out when I lifted it just a bit. Did you have the same concern i wondering? Thanks again Bill in Massachusetts
I don't have any concerns about the strength of the design but I did lift mine once during installation and it came out as well. Once I got it fed back into the channel I made sure I didn't lift it again. Ours has been up for just over a year now and it's holding up well. It's been through some wind, snow and rain and it still looks like it did the day we installed it. Our eve has a horizontal bow in it. It bows away from the house in the middle and I figured that was why it came out of the channel when I lifted it but I'm not sure now. I wish you the best with your installation.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thank you, this makes me feel a little better. But I’m thinking as I put panels up running a small long lag bolt every couple feet through the hanger and slide channel into the house. Sometimes snow can get heavy in Massachusetts. Aster popping out I can’t get over it in my head.
I wouldn't recommend it but I really don't know for sure. Maybe if you put a board across to spread out your weight. I would recommend getting a gutter clean-out spray attachment for cleaning out gutters in hard to reach places. I'll link one like I have below. It has worked real nice for me. Orbit 58543 Telescoping Gutter Cleaning Wand , Silver amzn.to/3sJyFqQ
Going to buy one within the next week or so. They have another one on Lowe’s with 3in thick insulated panels but is double the price, do you think that’s worth it or is it fine the way it is? Any shade is better than no shade. Especially in FL
Ours is fine the way it is for our needs. I guess it's up to the purchaser to decide if insulation is worth double the price. It get's hot here but with the white color, I think it stays cool enough for us.
Can you give me advice how to get building permit for this one? I actually bought the same and I was trying to get permit but they need a drawing. How did you get permit for this one?
Rules and requirements are different depending on where you live. Sounds like they just want you to draw a picture showing what you are building and where on the property it will be built. The counties I have dealt with usually just want a simple sketch of the property, structures and planned object built. Personally I'd just sketch it out on a piece of paper with a pencil and show dimensions and distances.
Hi! I just bought what looks like the same awning. Curious how you mounted the side fascia with the down slope. It seems like it was only made to mount if the awning was flat. Did you have to make some cuts and alterations to it at all?
I would either remove the section of gutter or mount the awning to the side of the house just under the eve. You won't need a gutter where the awning is like mine is set up. My gutters have end caps and start on each end of the awning.
@DIY Homestead Projects the one I'm doing for a cx has a gutter, and we initially tried to mount to side of house under the eave...but then the part where you fasten the screws from top of roof panel onto the rails became a problem = not enough clearance for a tool...😓😖
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 if I see what you're saying right: We'd have to cut the gutter out and put end caps on each one, butted up to the cover. But the drip edge - did u say u had to modify it to fit?🤔
Mark, so far it's holding up just fine. We've had a few storms and it still looks like it did the day we installed it. We had some wind but nothing crazy yet. I don't know what it's wind rating is but I'm thinking it would be fine if you install it per the instructions. As with anything, enough wind could destroy it whether you install it or a professional.
The awning we purchased is rated for a 30lb snow load. That's 30lbs per sq ft. so I think it would hold a 60lb solar panel just fine. We paid about $500 less for the aluminum than what the lumber would have cost at the time we installed the awning.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thank you for the reply. I am trying to put up 3 60lbs solar panel on it so i hope by the calculation that would be fine as well on a 20x8 ft patio cover?
A 20x8 ft patio cover is 160 sq ft. At 30lbs per sq ft it could hold 4800lbs of evenly distributed snow. I think it will do just fine as long as the patio cover is installed correctly per the instructions.
20lb snow load version on Amazon
Four Seasons Outdoor Living Solutions - TWV Series 20’ x 8’ High-Grade Aluminum Attached Solid Patio Cover Awning
amzn.to/3i4kPdk
I bought corrugated steel along with the old fashion black metal pillars. How can I make this into a porch overhang?
U can build this in wood for 500
You saved my day. Bought one of these a couple years ago. Circumstances lead to me just now installing it. Opened up all the boxes and found no instructions. Your link to Lowe’s lead me to downloadable instructions. Thank you so much for the video and links to the product. The video was also helpful.
Great to hear!
Thank you very much for her your service and this video. We had a aluminum wood patio installed years ago. We decided to close it up big Windows all around. The guy put in the windows drilled holes into our drip gutter and when the heavy rain came the water came into the room. It was the disaster it was like a waterfall coming through the windows. You gave us ideas on how to open up the gutter re -caulk the nails, reseal and close up the gutter then add flashing. We are always open to suggestions please let me know if you got any ideas. 😊
Sweet Bruce, you won't miss painting that every couple years.😀
Thanks! You're right about that, I really don't enjoy painting.
Underrated channel for sure.
Thank you, I appreciate that :)
You did a great job explaining everything! And, Thanks for your service!
Thank you!
That is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for posting it.
You are welcome James. I hope it helps you out with your project!
I have an awning like that. I had to remove it for some construction - a roof and remove rotten wood from built-in gutters. The contractor put shorter facia boards up and now I have to try to reinstall it by adding some kind of board. Your video shows how I can put it back together. I myself removed it so I think the only thing I need are screws, caulking and the header board. I still have the posts standing. I scrubbed each panel off and am going to paint with galvanized zinc paint. What I did notice from having it on for 8 years is moss would grow on it and it was impossible to reach. So I'm hoping this spray will help with that. Thanks for showing. I hope you are enjoying it!
Thank you Sheri, I hope your re-install goes well. We have really enjoyed our awning. It has been one of the best improvements we have made to our back yard area.
We are at the beginning of this awning project and this overview nailed it. Liked and subscribed. One tiny “rub” for me as a woman ( handy but less experience with big projects) was the phrase “the wife”. “My wife” sounds better to me. No offence, just humble feedback. Looking forward to future videos. Thank you for the quality and care. 😊
Thanks for the video! I just received my 20x12 yesterday
You're welcome Jerry! I hope you enjoy it, ours is doing well so far.
Awesome video!
Thank you for posting it, definitely sealed the deal for me to purchase one for my house.
I wish you the best with your project!
Thank you for this. Its exactly what I have been looking for.
Glad it was helpful!
quick tip, shine a flashlight through the soffit holes, or use a small nail or bit of wire to locate the rafter tails without having to remove the soffit edges!
Good for a place where no hurricane hits. Just assuming here. Good video.
Yes, thanks!
That's a legit patio cover....nice!
Thanks LorDog!
Awesome work and great looking finished project. I was just surfing the “web” so to speak and saw your project, very clean and well done. I Thank you for your service Sir, our Son is attending College for his 4 year degree to join the Air Force. Salute.
Thank you Kenneth, I appreciate the nice comment! Tell your son thank you for his service and I wish him the best with his endeavors. Semper Fi
EXACTLY what i was looking for .. going to do this for my RV ... contractor has quoted me 3800 ... amazon kit is 1880.+ tax .. so a little sweat equity will save me 2K!
I wish you the best with your money saving project! Ours is holding up well and it was definitely worth the effort! 👍
Super video! I didn’t even know u could order these at a big box store. Well done! 👍
Thank you 🤗
Good job, will use this for reference when we put ours. Thank you
Thank you Janice, I wish you the best with your project!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I live in southern Colorado myself and I've been hoping to get a patio awning up in the backyard of my new home! Hoping for the best!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks so much for the tips, the hacks, and the prices!
Wou are welcome. Thanks for stopping by!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 just wondering if you could recommend a competent project mgr for us We live in the Orlando, FL area
I like the way you think. I think the same way. I was going to put a roof over my so this summer and was going to use LVLs and 2x6 purlins. Now I'm going all steel. If I were a builder I would use ICF.
I agree Phillip! If you have to pay a premium you might as well use premium materials. How are you liking that YesWelder MIG 250 Pro? I hope it is doing everything you need it to.
just ordered a 12x12 thanks for the video
You're welcome Todd, I wish you the best with your project.
Great job. I ordered a 16 footer from Home Depot after watching this vid. Only complaint I have is there was NO instructions anywhere with the kit. Thankfully I was able to refer to this vid a few times just to see the orientation of a few parts.
Mine did not come with printed instructions either. I had to access them online. I'm glad you were able to assemble your kit via my video. Enjoy your new awning, we are really enjoying ours.
Thanks for your service ! Great video!
My pleasure Jenny and thank you for watching!
Great job you and the wife
Thank you
Great job to both of you all thank you explanations it so well
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for stopping by!
Thanks for this. We’ve got a 30’X14’ to put up so this is very helpful.
You're welcome Jim, I hope it helps you out with your instillation. I wish you the best with your awning install.
Jim have you installed yours yet?
Excellent video!! Thank you this was exactly what I was looking for!!!
Glad it was helpful!
That looks great! Job well done. Thanks for sharing. That will last much longer than wood and looks better too. I may give it a whirl.
Thanks John, we are real happy with this aluminum awning. Have fun with your project.
Great job!!!! I have been looking at these kits! I was thinking about adding the screening as well
Thank you! It would be real nice with the screening. I'm going to have to look into that. I wasn't aware they had screening kits for the simple awning.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 If you go to the Four Seasons site they have a variety of different options. Some as simple as integrated screen systems that can be dropped or raised and other more permanent options. Since money doesn't grow on trees I planned on doing the porch one year and then adding the screen system the next
Looks like a lot more work and skill required, than a normal HO would have. A possible solution if had to have the patio cover by this particular maker...would be to purchase it AFTER you had a labor bid to have it installed professionally by a well rated installer.
And it might even be cost effective just to get bids from several local contractors, for parts/labor, using their own preferred aluminum patio cover maker...and to fit your own patio.
Great video and an excellent looking patio cover.
Thank you Thomas! We really like it too!
Beautiful job!!! Thank you for your instructional videos.
You are so welcome!
Es un excelente trabajo, pero no veo porque tenga que compararse una sobre la otra son dos cosas diferentes incluso opciones pero no mejor una que otra!!!, ambas son grandiosas!
Great informative video
I am subscribing.
Thank you
Awesome, thank you!
Now all you need are cross beams for screen in and door to make it into a sun room
I would suggest putting screening in all the openings under the roof so no bugs or insects build nests! also the end cap area(s) need to be sealed up!
That's a great idea. Do you know of a kit to cover those openings?? I'm in Houston so this idea would keep mosquitos out.
REALLLYYY ,REALLLYYY NICE ,HELPFUL VIDEO THX
Glad it helped you out Kennyg, thanks for watching.
Thank you very much for sharing this video....new subscriber here
Thanks for subbing and watching Terryann
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 You've quite welcome
On the seams it’s a tongue and groove. That second ladder would have made locking them together a breeze.
This will also keep your room off of this patio MUCH COOLER!
FYI: "If mounting to a wood deck, the deck sub-framing at post locations should be beefed up and lag screws should be used to fasten the heavy duty bottom post brackets through the deck boards into the subframing. (*DO NOT ATTACH TO DECK BOARDS ONLY*)" - Four Seasons.
That's exactly what I did per the instructions but thanks for the FYI.
I have a deck that has vinyl on top. Underneath the deck is a finished living space for. How do I mount the posts to ensure Im biting into the joice and not just plywood.
Hiya! Thank you so much for this video! So much better than the 4 Seasons one. One question - we’re completely stuck at panel installation stage. Can’t get the panels to snap into each other. You mention that it was hard for you as well, but any tips at all to get us unstuck? Start on one side and move inward? Start inward and move out? Keep one side out of the channel etc Will take any tips! Thank you!
We started with two panels on the ground to test fit them together and see how they snapped together. You have to tilt one panel about a 30 or 40 degree to the other as you line up the edges that snap together. Then bend the angled panel flat with the other. When the fit is correct it should kind of snap together then work the "snap" down the seam until they are both joined. When you put them together up on the awning off set the ends of the panels about 1/2" or so so the back edge can clear the channel that is installed on the house. You can't put them together with the end in the channel on the house because you won't be able to tilt the panel 30 or 40 degrees. Once you have them snapped together you should be able to lay them both flat and slide the last piece back that 1/2" or so into the channel. Once you get it figured out doing one or two you'll be able to use this method and it will go fairly smooth. The trick is the tilt angle to start and then making sure they are "snapped together as you lay them flat then into the channel on the house. Hope this helps and I wish you the best on your project.
Great job!!!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks folks.
Thank you too!
Neighbors put up one of these right before “Snowmageddon” here in east Texas. It didn’t survive. I’m sure it had no snow rating to it since we mostly never get snow.
I did my patio cover 12ft Wx 20ft L with plywood, 4x4 post, shingles etc… $550
We priced ours out in wood and it was three times that. Was that 2021 prices? If so, you got a good deal I think.
I build these everyday for a living. I work for a company that sells to local customers and I’m very familiar with all products from four seasons. I think it’s awesome to watch a diy video of the work I do everyday. And this build is pretty basic. I call it the “hanging channel” what you slide your flat pans into. I was just curious as to why your kit didn’t come with sleeves to go over your 3x3 fluted posts? It would leave the finish a lot nicer.
I would also like to know why it didn't come with the sleeves to go over the posts. I was thinking it's a shame they didn't come up with something to hide the large bolts that attach the posts.
Where are you located Matt... city/state?
Thanks for posting Matt! I am strongly considering this over a traditional wood and shingle porch. I like the clean lines and lower maintenance. Would you say in confidence that these Four Seasons porches are reliable and relatively issue free? I was considering the insulated version but thought it would be a waste as we dont get too much direct sun.
Since you do this for a living, had a question!
I bought five 2x10 corrugated steel panels, and the old fashioned black metal pillars. How can I make that into a porch overhang only buying metal. I do not want to buy wood
Looks really nice!
Thank you :)
That’s look great !
Thank you!
Thanks
You're welcome Brian
Thanks for sharing this as this is the first one I have seen that is s real DIY using this system by a homeowner. Also very succinct in your presentation without all the unwanted music or other distractions we see in so many of these contents. It sure appears very cost-effective and hopefully maintenance-free for many years. We have been looking into installing a similar awning over our Deck and this will surely be one of the top choices. BTW can you comment on whether the roof panels are sturdy enough that you can walk on the roof? Rama in NC
Thank you Rama, I appreciate your nice comment. I don't believe walking on this roof would be a good idea. The 30lb snow load version we purchased might be able to hold the weight of walking but I wouldn't do it unless it was absolutely necessary. If I did have to walk on it I would lay down a 2' by 4' minimum sheet of plywood to spread the weight over a large area. Also the support track that connects this awning to the facia is only held on with some 4" long #10 or so screws. I think that area would be the weak point for supporting walking. Hope this helps you out and good luck with your project if and when you decide to build one. Thanks for watching!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thanks for the feedback. I didn't think it would be safe to walk but was not sure if the instructions came with any cautionary notes re this.
I also found some products advertised that are used as "structural roof panels" with styrofoam-filled insulations but not sure if they are available for DIY installations.
gracias por este video muy util
How did you secure the support beams? It looks like in the video you did not secure them until the very end. It looks good BTW. You did a great job
Thank you! I secured the supports to the deck joists with lag screws.
I could not use this kit. I’ve got 70ft pine trees all over my property in Florida, the way the gutter works ide have to be up there every few days during the summer to clean that out. Looks good though!
Sorry to hear that
Thank you so much for posting! I was considering doing the traditional wood and shingle porch but with lumber prices looked for cheaper and less maintenance alternatives. I found the Four Seasons Optima 22x12 with 40 pound snow load (req in NE) and looked all over for some videos and found yours. It was exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any pointers? Would you say the project would be fairly straight forward for someone who has built a traditional wood and shingle porch? Thanks again as I enjoyed watching and will be showing this to my Dad for his thoughts (he is more traditional wood guy but with prices this video might change his opinion)
Norm, I would say the instillation is pretty strait forward. The part I like the best is I will never have to worry about paint, wood rot or replacing shingles. Once it's done it's done! That is worth the cost in my opinion. Good luck with your project.
Putting mine up tomorrow,great video,I have to install mine to t brick wall on my house,what size anchors do I need ,16 x8
Sounds great Mike, have fun with your project. I don't know what size anchors for mounting to brick. I didn't have any brick to mount to so I didn't do any research on that subject.
I'm just curious. How well has it been holding up with all the snow in CO? I'm getting ready to decide on what I'm going to use on mine. Aluminum, or wood with a metal roof or clear plastic roof. In Dayton, OH
The Aluminum patio cover has been holding up well. No issues since we installed it and we are very happy with it! I wish you the best with your project!
I’m considering doing an insulated roof panel system. Is your patio roof noisy in the rain? I’d do something like this to save money if it’s not too noisy.
It can be noisy if you’re under it and it’s really pouring out. We don’t get a lot of rain here so it hasn’t been an issue for us. It’s not as noisy as a regular tin roof. I wish you the best.
Thanks a lọt!
You are welcome Nguyen, thanks for watching!
Thank you for this presentation because it's precisely what I needed to complete my project. The only hang ups I had came from when I began installing the roof panels. Little buggers gave me some major problems! Your video was the only one I can locate that demonstrates the assembly of this brand. I'm still working on it, but I'm doing it by myself so it's real slow going. I was hoping to read some suggestions in the comments of this vid, but none so far... Oh and aluminum is just better at the house, any way you look at it imo
Thank you Dave, I wish you the best in finishing up your project. So far we really like ours and it's holding up with no issues.
How did you do? I am reinstalling mine by myself. I had to take it off because I had built in gutters that rotted the wood and get a new roof. I have to buy a new "header" board or whatever it is called that you hook the panels to the house with. I am spraying it with a galvanized zinc coating to help with the moss. I left the end posts all intact. Hope it went well and you are enjoying it.
Thanks for the video. The printed instructions are a bit confusing at times. As an example, the instructions state for the legs to measure 15" & 18". Does that mean that 1 leg is over 15" and the other 18"? Is that to the center of the brackets? does it matter which end is 15" and which is 18"?
I agree Floyd, the instructions are a bit confusing at times. It's been a couple of years since I looked at the instructions. Sorry but I don't remember any specifics about that section you mention with the legs.
Great video. How has it held up since you installed it? And knowing what you now know, would you buy another one?
Thank you! It's held up well and we have no regrets. We would definitely buy it again!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thank you
chiefdog1019 You are welcome!
What was that flying overhead at the 2:07 mark? Nice work BTW
Thank you, it was an airliner leaving a contrail.
Are the flashing screws visible from the underside of the patio cover?
Yes, I believe they are.
Man this is Awesome.... Is there a kit that you know of so I can put mesh around it to keep out mosquitos??
Thank you. I don't know of a screen kit but that doesn't mean there isn't one out there.
What are the roof pitch requirements? Can it be a flat roof, no pitch! Thanks
I don't know if there are any pitch requirements. That may differ from location to location.
Awesome!
Thanks!
I am sorry if this has been asked and answered, does rain just drain off across the front of the awning? I see no gutter and wonder about drainage.
Yes the front beam of the awning is actually a gutter as well. It has a drain hole on each end.
Thanks for the great video, do you have an update on this patio?
Still looks like it did the day we put it up. 👍🏻
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thank you. We are going to order up a 10 x 30 to add to our barn side and looking for data.
I wish you the best with your project!
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thank you
Is that a shooting star at 2:09?
No, it’s an airliner.
How did you put the foam dams in the gutter?
I siliconed them into the ends of the gutter.
Did it not make your living room dark? Was the sunlight still able to seep in from your French doors?
No, it didn't make the room dark, we still get plenty of light through the doors and windows. It did however make the room much cooler for a longer period of time through the day. That's exactly what we wanted in addition to having the shade on the patio.
Looks great, does it chatter in the wind or is it pretty solid?
Thank you, it does not chatter in the wind. It is solid.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Great, thanks for the reply!
Thank for a great video. Certainly gives me ideas. Where I live white aluminum gets pretty dirty from some sort of tree sap product. It’s nearly impossible to clean. My only other concern about this cover is that it seems that there are a lot of places were wasps might Climb inside and build a nest. Have you had any problems with either issue? Thanks again
Our awning has only been up for about a week so we haven't had any of those problems yet. We don't have any trees in our back yard so I don't think the sap will be a problem for us. I am concerned about potential wasp nests because we do have wasps here. I have made two wasp control videos here.
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Time will tell how well they do in controlling the wasp problems with a structure like this aluminum awning. I'll be keeping a close eye on the issue. Thank you for the comment and good questions.
Does it heats up too much during the summer?
No
Can the posts be attached to pavers or just concrete installation???
You can attach the post to what ever you want. Remember that the awning will only be as strong as what you mount the posts to. This is especially important when a gust of wind comes along. Attaching them to pavers only could be disastrous in the wind. The awning could lift and be destroyed if a wind comes along.
Can you explain how you installed the side end caps, im a little confused?
I'm sorry Robert, I was confused with that step too. The instructions were not very helpful with that step. I just tinkered with them until I was able to make them fit and look descent. I really can't explain how I did it, I just made them work. :(
I just ordered mine. Did you fasten the posts before or after the roof pannels?
Excellent! I fastened the posts after installing the roof panels.
just install my awning, wandering how your scupper drains worked. I installed one gutter drain but its not enough, thinking about trying the scuppers
The scupper drains work well for draining the awning gutter but I really need a downspout to help direct where the water goes. We don't get much rain where I live so it hasn't been a huge issue for us.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thanks for the quick reply and the video. It was very helpful
How did you lock the panels together as you went along? It doesn’t look like you are doing that. Is it a Heritage?!
The edge of one panel overlaps the other and they sort of snap together. Ours is a Four Seasons awning.
do u need a permit to attach this aluminum patio to your house?
Depends on your local building code requirements
How many inches is it from the top of the hanging rail to the bottom on the hanging channel?
It's hard to measure that exactly with it mounted. The hanging channel is about 3" top to bottom. I would estimate about 4 or 5 inches total.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 perfect. Just need it to be under 7 inches.
I have watched your video several times, thank you for sharing!
I starting assembling our same patio cover today, 10+18.
I have to say assembly of hanger brackets I was shocked this whole cover rest in that little channel. The Hanger has some play also.
I have to question this design, seeing my channel come right out when I lifted it just a bit.
Did you have the same concern i wondering?
Thanks again
Bill in Massachusetts
I don't have any concerns about the strength of the design but I did lift mine once during installation and it came out as well. Once I got it fed back into the channel I made sure I didn't lift it again. Ours has been up for just over a year now and it's holding up well. It's been through some wind, snow and rain and it still looks like it did the day we installed it.
Our eve has a horizontal bow in it. It bows away from the house in the middle and I figured that was why it came out of the channel when I lifted it but I'm not sure now. I wish you the best with your installation.
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Thank you, this makes me feel a little better. But I’m thinking as I put panels up running a small long lag bolt every couple feet through the hanger and slide channel into the house.
Sometimes snow can get heavy in Massachusetts.
Aster popping out I can’t get over it in my head.
Can you walk on this type of patio cover? My gutters are clogged and I fear it may not support my weight.
I wouldn't recommend it but I really don't know for sure. Maybe if you put a board across to spread out your weight. I would recommend getting a gutter clean-out spray attachment for cleaning out gutters in hard to reach places. I'll link one like I have below. It has worked real nice for me.
Orbit 58543 Telescoping Gutter Cleaning Wand , Silver
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Going to buy one within the next week or so. They have another one on Lowe’s with 3in thick insulated panels but is double the price, do you think that’s worth it or is it fine the way it is? Any shade is better than no shade. Especially in FL
Ours is fine the way it is for our needs. I guess it's up to the purchaser to decide if insulation is worth double the price. It get's hot here but with the white color, I think it stays cool enough for us.
The 3in panels is the way to go. It is an actual roof that you can walk on top of. I need to make a youtube video of how I build these :/
Did you seal the roof with anything to keep it from leaking on sweating due to condensation???
Did you seal the roof with any product to keep it from dripping condensation water.
No, we don't have sweating from condensation issues where I live.
How would you attach this if you have 2 roofs meeting at a 90° but also they're both slightly different heights
I want to hire you 😅. I’m looking for a free standing pergola
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How well does aluminum withstand tornadic winds?
I don't know, I've never had the awning in tornadic winds and hope I never do.
Can you give me advice how to get building permit for this one? I actually bought the same and I was trying to get permit but they need a drawing. How did you get permit for this one?
Rules and requirements are different depending on where you live. Sounds like they just want you to draw a picture showing what you are building and where on the property it will be built. The counties I have dealt with usually just want a simple sketch of the property, structures and planned object built. Personally I'd just sketch it out on a piece of paper with a pencil and show dimensions and distances.
Thank you so much. This is very helpful. I will provide that drawing they are asking for. Hopefully they won’t give me a hard time
I hope not too, I wish you the best with your project.
Did you considered aluminum roof over insulated roof?
We didn't consider an insulated roof.
if you live in the desert, you have a giant convection oven, it's cooler to stand in the sun
Hi! I just bought what looks like the same awning. Curious how you mounted the side fascia with the down slope. It seems like it was only made to mount if the awning was flat. Did you have to make some cuts and alterations to it at all?
Yes I had to make cuts and modify them to fit properly.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thanks so much 🙏🏻
You are welcome Austin. I wish you the best with your project.
What do you do, if there is a gutter where you need to mount?
I would either remove the section of gutter or mount the awning to the side of the house just under the eve. You won't need a gutter where the awning is like mine is set up. My gutters have end caps and start on each end of the awning.
@DIY Homestead Projects the one I'm doing for a cx has a gutter, and we initially tried to mount to side of house under the eave...but then the part where you fasten the screws from top of roof panel onto the rails became a problem = not enough clearance for a tool...😓😖
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 if I see what you're saying right:
We'd have to cut the gutter out and put end caps on each one, butted up to the cover. But the drip edge - did u say u had to modify it to fit?🤔
I don't recall having to make any modifications to the drip edge.
Looks great how is it holding up in our Colorado winds I'm in Pueblo and was looking into a kit versus 8 grand from a dealer/installer
Mark, so far it's holding up just fine. We've had a few storms and it still looks like it did the day we installed it. We had some wind but nothing crazy yet. I don't know what it's wind rating is but I'm thinking it would be fine if you install it per the instructions. As with anything, enough wind could destroy it whether you install it or a professional.
is that strong enough to put 60lbs solar panel on it? and what was the price difference between the lumber and the aluminum?
The awning we purchased is rated for a 30lb snow load. That's 30lbs per sq ft. so I think it would hold a 60lb solar panel just fine. We paid about $500 less for the aluminum than what the lumber would have cost at the time we installed the awning.
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Thank you for the reply. I am trying to put up 3 60lbs solar panel on it so i hope by the calculation that would be fine as well on a 20x8 ft patio cover?
A 20x8 ft patio cover is 160 sq ft. At 30lbs per sq ft it could hold 4800lbs of evenly distributed snow. I think it will do just fine as long as the patio cover is installed correctly per the instructions.
You didn't show the fi ished attached legs.
fyi, That gutter is impossible to clean out. And weren't ya tempted to tig a lot of those pieces together?
Yes Mat, I'm also tempted to tig weld up some drain spouts that will deflect the water over the edge of the deck. We'll see what happens.