This argument never really made much sense. DOW was always cartoony. Maybe they didn't add enough lines or the bloom was too high but it was never going to look as good as DOW 2 because of optimization. The game is not trash. It's just okay and really needed better modding tools
@@kingra2650 You must have a beast of a phone because no mobile game looks this decent. Unless you're talking about Honkai Impact decent then yeah this is meh at best. Bonus points for this being mouse and keyboard controlled which makes it bearable compared to most mobile games? Though what is it really for you that makes you say that? The bloom? the textures? Oh I get it it must be the untextured ground which... okay I'll have to kinda agree though to be fair DOW 2 had the best graphics but was not an RTS so it doesn't count.
@@alexanerose4820 yeah the terrain is bland, the units too, the gameplay is too quick too in the way it looks unrealistic. When I played it I did kinda enjoy it at first but got bored of it super fast. We all have different tastes I guess, sadly this game isn't to mine.
Thank you for making DOW 3 content. I wish they'll give us better modding tools or at least drop all the other races in the future so it can be complete. signed, an Eldar player who makes note of your Mon Keigh valor against the Orks
You've probably played it, but just in case, Dawn Of War: Soulstorm Ultimate Apocalypse mod. But if you haven't, boy are you in for one hell of a ride.
@@DwarfyDoodad It wasn't bad, but I'd argue that it's below DOW 2 because in it's core it isn't an RTS. It's closer to the first one then DOW 2 ever will be. Heck DOW 2 only got really good after Retribution came out so the comparison to a game who didn't get any expansions isn't a fair point. Heck many people complained the same things when base DOW 2 first came out because of the precedence Dark Crusade set yet It still has fanbase, just like DOW 3 does.
Nice. While the game is okay, it just fails to grab me like DoW1 does. That thing got me into 40k. Gosh what I'd give for the 9th ed announcement video trailer to have been a trailer for DoW4
Yeah, I hear you. Especially when they removed the morale bar and sync kills. That's what sold the original DOW 1 to me, especially breaking the ranks of IG and watching them flee into their own guns XD
DoW3 makes me think of that Disneyesque Warhammer 40K cartoon ... EXTERMINATUS. :) Cool vid, but i just cant get behind this. Remaining calm and moving on. *Have a fun weekend.*
@@gardevoir7137 Nah DOW 2 was only "good" after all the DLC came in. Originally people didn't like it because of the precedent Dark crusade set. Heck it's below DOW 3 because at least DOW 3 is an actual RTS.
Umm...buddy, a MOBA doesn't allow you to build bases, armies, and collect resources. This is objectively an RTS. Not as good as Dark Crusade but definitely better then DOW 2. Heck it just really needs a few tweaks and a few more races and it would do well. Though I wouldn't call it "dead" since we have a player base that shares an average with the reso of the DOW titles (even the renowned Dark Crusade) with Soulstorm being the exception due to the UA mod.
@@gardevoir7137 Nah they are but saying this is a MOBA when we have two clear examples of what a MOBA is that is both world wide famous and still played to this day is just.... incorrect on a functional and gameplay level. If you said it looked bad then yeah you'll have a clear opinion there. I mean have you seen the ground on this? Even I can't justify that!
@@Space-Battles-2020 Still a great a modd, waiting since forever for a remaster of all dawn war / dark crusade / soulstorm. This old game needs a re-skin and they can keep the old voice acting still great
@@Space-Battles-2020 thats why I play Total War Warhammer 2. In the grim darkness of the 21st century, there are only quality Fantasy games and trash 40k games which are somehow worse with each installment other than graphics.
Any actual specifics on why other than looks? 'Cuz while there are a few things missing (morale and sync kills) most "criticisms" are either petty or badnwagoning
@@Johnwang1191 Fair enough though I think your comparison is wrong in that at least one of them is a car. DOW 2 is an entirely different thing so it would be more accurate to judge it to DOW 1 since they are both RTS and on that front there are improvements (overall design and heroes feeling great for example) and flaws (removing the morale meter and no sync kills for example). Although some arguments were definitely bandwagoning like saying it's a MOBA which is just untrue on a functional and gameplay level when you see DOTA and LOL, emphasizing how Gabriel "jumps" with the Daemonhammer which eeehhhh are you really pointing that out in this universe, and calling it an SC2 clone which every RTS with three different factions has been called to (I don't remember any race in DOW 2 being as fun as the Orks with their scrap), and etc which were repeated ad nauseum and were the loudest. TL;DR If we really wanted it to succeed, we should've toned it down a bunch until after we got the rest of the races. Most didn't and now here we are.
@@alexanerose4820 its Emperor damned heresy. This ain't Disney and if you liked Warhammer 40K like , for realz, you wouldn't be hunting for confrontations with everyone who doesn't like DoW3. lol Specifics, they made it into a sub par MOBA instead of a DoW game. Do you disagree?
А ведь шанс был, прикрой ты повреждённые танки рыцарями и продолжи давить, паралельно строя пехоту, и подойдя к пущкм врага кинь на них мясо и сразу фокуси... Но ты отвёл танки на ремонт, а ремонт не обеспечил....
Yes i dont like the DoW 3 because they upscaled the hero system and they remove a lot of good thing what a normal RTS have.. but what I can agree on the fact that it looks very impressive while army battling en masse like that.
I wish they put back the morale system and at least a few sync kills. That was DOW's identity dammit! Though you gotta admit they got a few things right, especially the Orks and that's comming from an Eldar player. But are the heroes really op? I argue that the bosses/heroes from DOW were more ridiculously op and the closest thing to a Titan in that game were the Wraithlord bosses and Ulkair. Maybe the occasions Hive Tyrant but they get easy after you get the rockets
worst is, they did orks and eldars some justice as far as gameplay goes (eldars being hit and run, and orks being a bunch or crazies).. but the marines were a DEFENSIVE faction when they should be all about using your guys as shock troops... and the rest of the game failed as far as how the flow of battle goes, with the hero system being a BIG cause of this (as heroes nuke regular troops way too easily, to the point you need a hero of your own just to stop them.. meaning in a serious match, it's all about early game heroes, and if you don't have a strong one, you won't just have a hard time, you won't survive)
Marines were not a defensive faction. Game-long drop pod deployments, banner, Tac flamer, ASM, Deathwatch Vortex grenades, all their tanky melee heroes, and so on really rewarded getting into the enemy's face and throwing them around. They *were* like shock troops
@@jarlath9414 i really saw them as the more defensive faction of the 3... mainly due to the standart encouraging you to really stick to it like glue (unlike Orks, that can move away from the source of the buff) and the orbital strike also placing a beacon you need to defend. All 3 factions have OP melee heroes really, so I wouldnt really consider that a factor for the gameplay of a faction... but overall, the marine playstyles looked a lot to me like you were just designating an area of the map to be YOUR turf and encouraging you to defend said spot for as long as you can, unlike the other factions dont have to stick to their buff sources... made me feel it was more how the imperial guard would play at times, with a rather slow but hard to stop steamroll
@@thorveim1174 Standard could be placed anywhere; it was perfectly viable for offense. SM had 2 fairly cheap tanky heroes that were good linebreakers for the rest of the force. (Chaplain, Gabriel). I'm sure SM could be made to work in a defensive playstyle as well, but they were not shoehorned into it, mechanically speaking.
Still play sometimes for the fun. just like that. 3v3 in hard. The only thing is that I dont have so much gore. I have everything in full. My graphics unit is a gtx 1070 oc strix but I still dont have that awesome gore. Don't know whats wrong
Starcraft is based off of warhammer 40k. If you’ve ever wondered why the creators of 40k are so guarded of their ip, its because they originally hired blizzard to make a 40k game using space marines, elder, and tyranids. Blizzard backed out of it or some such happened , and then Starcraft happened. If I am remembering the story correctly.
Warcraft 1 was originally supposed to be a Warhammer fantasy game. But that deal fell through. Starcraft 1 was never supposed to be a 40k game though. But it's obvious that they took a lot of inspiration from 40k. I guess you can think of DoW3 as a look into an alternate timeline where Blizzard was firmly tied to Games Workshop IPs and World of Warhammer was the breakaway MMO hit.
Ah yes, my favourite DOW unit... moving red text box.
They look pretty tough tho, not gonna lie and Imperium needs every unit the can get right now :D
In the clean cartooniness of the third installment, there is only disappointment.
I sense no devotion or fervour in any of the lines said here.
This argument never really made much sense. DOW was always cartoony. Maybe they didn't add enough lines or the bloom was too high but it was never going to look as good as DOW 2 because of optimization.
The game is not trash. It's just okay and really needed better modding tools
@@alexanerose4820 it looks awful mate, like a mobile game, just kills it for me
@@kingra2650 You must have a beast of a phone because no mobile game looks this decent. Unless you're talking about Honkai Impact decent then yeah this is meh at best. Bonus points for this being mouse and keyboard controlled which makes it bearable compared to most mobile games?
Though what is it really for you that makes you say that? The bloom? the textures? Oh I get it it must be the untextured ground which... okay I'll have to kinda agree though to be fair DOW 2 had the best graphics but was not an RTS so it doesn't count.
@@alexanerose4820 yeah the terrain is bland, the units too, the gameplay is too quick too in the way it looks unrealistic. When I played it I did kinda enjoy it at first but got bored of it super fast.
We all have different tastes I guess, sadly this game isn't to mine.
Thank you for making DOW 3 content. I wish they'll give us better modding tools or at least drop all the other races in the future so it can be complete.
signed, an Eldar player who makes note of your Mon Keigh valor against the Orks
How I wish there was a new DOW game, dark crusade and soul Storm was my childhood
Just finished an Eldar campaign on soulstorm today ! I wish they made a similar game with new races !!
Dawn of War 2 wasn't bad, denying it exists proves you are still a child. Dawn of War 3 was just awful.
You've probably played it, but just in case, Dawn Of War: Soulstorm Ultimate Apocalypse mod. But if you haven't, boy are you in for one hell of a ride.
@@DwarfyDoodad It wasn't bad, but I'd argue that it's below DOW 2 because in it's core it isn't an RTS. It's closer to the first one then DOW 2 ever will be. Heck DOW 2 only got really good after Retribution came out so the comparison to a game who didn't get any expansions isn't a fair point. Heck many people complained the same things when base DOW 2 first came out because of the precedence Dark Crusade set yet It still has fanbase, just like DOW 3 does.
@@epimetheaus1214 Wish this game got a mod like that. I love it but the jankiness is starting to get to me
Nice.
While the game is okay, it just fails to grab me like DoW1 does. That thing got me into 40k.
Gosh what I'd give for the 9th ed announcement video trailer to have been a trailer for DoW4
Yeah, I hear you. Especially when they removed the morale bar and sync kills. That's what sold the original DOW 1 to me, especially breaking the ranks of IG and watching them flee into their own guns XD
Orska 2021!
It it an Orskan Waaagh preview?
26:00 десантники до такой степени ультра, что таскают с собой красные ящики с боеприпасами )))
again space marines hide in metal bawkses 21:20
:D
It does an ORK eart good seeing dem smurfy GITS being stomped like that. Brings a tear to me non robotic eye
so this is what a WAAAGH! on an imperial planet looks like.
So this must be the average day of a guardsman.
DoW3 makes me think of that Disneyesque Warhammer 40K cartoon ... EXTERMINATUS. :)
Cool vid, but i just cant get behind this. Remaining calm and moving on.
*Have a fun weekend.*
Thank you!
DOW the game that couldn't figure out if it wanted to be a MOBA or an RTS, and then couldn't do either well and died.
Dow 1 and 2 are fantastic
@@gardevoir7137 Nah DOW 2 was only "good" after all the DLC came in. Originally people didn't like it because of the precedent Dark crusade set. Heck it's below DOW 3 because at least DOW 3 is an actual RTS.
Umm...buddy, a MOBA doesn't allow you to build bases, armies, and collect resources. This is objectively an RTS. Not as good as Dark Crusade but definitely better then DOW 2. Heck it just really needs a few tweaks and a few more races and it would do well.
Though I wouldn't call it "dead" since we have a player base that shares an average with the reso of the DOW titles (even the renowned Dark Crusade) with Soulstorm being the exception due to the UA mod.
@@alexanerose4820 guess opinions aren't a thing
@@gardevoir7137 Nah they are but saying this is a MOBA when we have two clear examples of what a MOBA is that is both world wide famous and still played to this day is just.... incorrect on a functional and gameplay level. If you said it looked bad then yeah you'll have a clear opinion there. I mean have you seen the ground on this? Even I can't justify that!
For the Empror
*Dawn of War 3: Tiberian Twilight*
All jokes aside, great video!
This just makes me want to go play Dawn of War 1
Yeah...ultimate apocalypse will be great
DOW 1 with mods and especially with UA mod works very slow, that is why I don't play it anymore.
@@Space-Battles-2020 Still a great a modd, waiting since forever for a remaster of all dawn war / dark crusade / soulstorm. This old game needs a re-skin and they can keep the old voice acting still great
@@Space-Battles-2020 thats why I play Total War Warhammer 2. In the grim darkness of the 21st century, there are only quality Fantasy games and trash 40k games which are somehow worse with each installment other than graphics.
looks awesome
Haven't seen a DOW3 video in over a year. Came in with an open mind thinking, maybe the game wasn't as bad as first imagined?
Nope. Still trash.
Any actual specifics on why other than looks? 'Cuz while there are a few things missing (morale and sync kills) most "criticisms" are either petty or badnwagoning
@@Johnwang1191 Fair enough though I think your comparison is wrong in that at least one of them is a car. DOW 2 is an entirely different thing so it would be more accurate to judge it to DOW 1 since they are both RTS and on that front there are improvements (overall design and heroes feeling great for example) and flaws (removing the morale meter and no sync kills for example).
Although some arguments were definitely bandwagoning like saying it's a MOBA which is just untrue on a functional and gameplay level when you see DOTA and LOL, emphasizing how Gabriel "jumps" with the Daemonhammer which eeehhhh are you really pointing that out in this universe, and calling it an SC2 clone which every RTS with three different factions has been called to (I don't remember any race in DOW 2 being as fun as the Orks with their scrap), and etc which were repeated ad nauseum and were the loudest.
TL;DR If we really wanted it to succeed, we should've toned it down a bunch until after we got the rest of the races. Most didn't and now here we are.
@@Johnwang1191 AMG? No taste at all then.
@@alexanerose4820 its Emperor damned heresy. This ain't Disney and if you liked Warhammer 40K like , for realz, you wouldn't be hunting for confrontations with everyone who doesn't like DoW3. lol
Specifics, they made it into a sub par MOBA instead of a DoW game. Do you disagree?
Why did he keep the tanks out of the battle for so long?
Idk seems to me at 1 point if he'd pushed forward with everything he would have won
ultramarines is Back
No 8 player battles. Only 3 factions. This is what killed the game for me.
А ведь шанс был, прикрой ты повреждённые танки рыцарями и продолжи давить, паралельно строя пехоту, и подойдя к пущкм врага кинь на них мясо и сразу фокуси... Но ты отвёл танки на ремонт, а ремонт не обеспечил....
Yes i dont like the DoW 3 because they upscaled the hero system and they remove a lot of good thing what a normal RTS have.. but what I can agree on the fact that it looks very impressive while army battling en masse like that.
I wish they put back the morale system and at least a few sync kills. That was DOW's identity dammit! Though you gotta admit they got a few things right, especially the Orks and that's comming from an Eldar player.
But are the heroes really op? I argue that the bosses/heroes from DOW were more ridiculously op and the closest thing to a Titan in that game were the Wraithlord bosses and Ulkair. Maybe the occasions Hive Tyrant but they get easy after you get the rockets
Wait I remember that there was a starter set for 5th edition called battle for Verdos. It was orks vs smurfs. Is this it?
So this is DOW3? What does the mod do different?
scout marine squad deployed
worst is, they did orks and eldars some justice as far as gameplay goes (eldars being hit and run, and orks being a bunch or crazies).. but the marines were a DEFENSIVE faction when they should be all about using your guys as shock troops... and the rest of the game failed as far as how the flow of battle goes, with the hero system being a BIG cause of this (as heroes nuke regular troops way too easily, to the point you need a hero of your own just to stop them.. meaning in a serious match, it's all about early game heroes, and if you don't have a strong one, you won't just have a hard time, you won't survive)
Marines were not a defensive faction. Game-long drop pod deployments, banner, Tac flamer, ASM, Deathwatch Vortex grenades, all their tanky melee heroes, and so on really rewarded getting into the enemy's face and throwing them around. They *were* like shock troops
@@jarlath9414 i really saw them as the more defensive faction of the 3... mainly due to the standart encouraging you to really stick to it like glue (unlike Orks, that can move away from the source of the buff) and the orbital strike also placing a beacon you need to defend. All 3 factions have OP melee heroes really, so I wouldnt really consider that a factor for the gameplay of a faction... but overall, the marine playstyles looked a lot to me like you were just designating an area of the map to be YOUR turf and encouraging you to defend said spot for as long as you can, unlike the other factions dont have to stick to their buff sources... made me feel it was more how the imperial guard would play at times, with a rather slow but hard to stop steamroll
@@thorveim1174 Standard could be placed anywhere; it was perfectly viable for offense.
SM had 2 fairly cheap tanky heroes that were good linebreakers for the rest of the force. (Chaplain, Gabriel).
I'm sure SM could be made to work in a defensive playstyle as well, but they were not shoehorned into it, mechanically speaking.
absolute madddnesss....
I don’t care what people say, this games looks fun. Sure 1 might be better but the graphics on 3 is amazing and makes the battles look great
theres more to games than graphics bro
I prefer with DOW 2 for Graphic, and for doing some crazy stuff with classic RTS i like to play DOW 1 AU Mod or unification Race addon
@@pringles_mcgee keep your opinion to yourself let us experience the game for ourselves ffs....
@@firstordertrooper3339 Buy the game, play the game and share your opinion :)
@@BryanMinami The UA mod is starting to show it's damn age.
Still play sometimes for the fun. just like that. 3v3 in hard. The only thing is that I dont have so much gore. I have everything in full. My graphics unit is a gtx 1070 oc strix but I still dont have that awesome gore. Don't know whats wrong
I have a GTX 1070 as well.
Why does it looks like you're lagging? Each few seconds troops just stops in doing what they doing o_O
it's because he put to play 'online', if he put to play solo skirmish it doens't happen.
Hi that was a insane battle men, awesome, where can i download this mod except the steam??
www.moddb.com/mods/deathwatch-mod
@@Space-Battles-2020 Thanks for reply, but unfortunately there is no file for this mod in moddb to download that!
@@nimajafarian9147 You can use this site to download steam workshop mods without having the game fallback.steamworkshopdownloader.io/
Из Вахи долбаный Старкрафт сделали
Vat waz orky
You lost to the green skins?
ORKZ IZ DA BIGGEST AND DA STRONGEST
@@Space-Battles-2020 YER DAMN RIGHT THEY IZ!!!!
Do more with diff races
if only there were T'au empire in this game
Or Chaos...
Od anybody else
А это в мультиплеере режим?
Да, но с ботами, хотя можно с людьми сыграть, если у них есть этот мод
@@Space-Battles-2020 Можно получается с друзьями зарубиться? Класс. Спасибо.
respect really great battle
Thanks
Is that a glitch
What?
I was wondering that too. The red Boxes about 15 min in. Fun episode anyway great content.
Soooooo starcraft not 40k
Starcraft is based off of warhammer 40k. If you’ve ever wondered why the creators of 40k are so guarded of their ip, its because they originally hired blizzard to make a 40k game using space marines, elder, and tyranids. Blizzard backed out of it or some such happened , and then Starcraft happened. If I am remembering the story correctly.
@@54lolman warcraft was not 40k
Derek Luckas I said Starcraft not Warcraft
Warcraft 1 was originally supposed to be a Warhammer fantasy game.
But that deal fell through.
Starcraft 1 was never supposed to be a 40k game though.
But it's obvious that they took a lot of inspiration from 40k.
I guess you can think of DoW3 as a look into an alternate timeline where Blizzard was firmly tied to Games Workshop IPs and World of Warhammer was the breakaway MMO hit.
Nah SC2 isn't this fun, especially with the hero units. Why do people keep comparing it to that APM hand killer?
я так и не понял во что ты хотел сыграть технику держал сзади пехоту не строил не прыкрывал своих компов странно а так мясо классное
Хотел кучу предаторов аннигиляторов создать и одной волной все снести. Пехоту строил, просто она жила несколько секунд.
This game was so crap.
This game dead?
to see him playing with bots probably
Never where Alive honestly...
It was Dead on Arrival. So to speak.
Пожалуйста, вмазывай музло как крест
мясо и еще мясо класс
Спасибо
Постукали десант)
Бывает
esto no es warhammer 40k
How is this epic?
jesus this games ass. it looks...terrible. how is DOW soulstorm/dark crusade better than this?! how could they possibly think this was a good release?
Haha :D
Отстой карта, простая дам ещё 3 на 3 понимаю 1 vs 3
what a mess of a game. nobody playtested this? 2008 graphics, stupid audio, boring gameplay