I've read one fan theory that says harry potter and the cursed child never actually happend in the potterverse and it was all just an overblown attention hungry story written by rita skeeter inside the potterverse. So JK Rowling if you ever feel like tweeting another random fact to add to the harry potter lore, here's my recommendation!
Harry went through years of feeling unloved while living with the Dursley’s. There is NO WAY he would make his son feel the same way by telling him he wished he weren’t his son. That is one of my biggest issues with this story. The characters are not consistent with those developed in the original series.
It's not that uncomment that people with a bad childhood act like their parents when they become parents People who get hit from there parents tendence to hit their kids too It's just unrealistic that harry doesn't show ANY sign of "social awkwardness" or anxiety because of his bad childhood experiences in one of the harry potter books and than he is a complete asshole 19 years later I hope it's understandable what i want to say, i'm not super fluent in english
The part I hate most is the fact they made Cedric diggory into a death eater even though the whole reason people loved his character was his moral decency and kindheartedness
Here's a theory, the Goblet of Fire was rigged to allow Harry, who's to say that Cedric wasn't ALSO a plant? Him being so helpful to Harry serves Voldemort's plan, but without Cedric, Harry would have failed the second trial... Cedric may have already been under sway of the Dark Lord, so his nice guy attitude was just an act. It's concievable
@@davidtucker9498 Well if Cedric was a spy, then why does he only tell Harry about the second task? If he was a spy for Voldemort, he would have done a lot more than vaguely tell Harry how to properly open the egg. He would have told him about the dragons and maze if his purpose was to help Harry out in tournament. Honestly, as a hufflepuff, turning one of the only important hufflepuff characters into a death eater feels like a slap in the face. Especially after the original books go out there way to characterize Cedric as a humble, brave, loyal, and a truly kind person.
Wasn't Ceddy like ready to let Harry the fucking goblet because he saved him and then they were like "let's take it together"? So clearly Cedric cared way too little about winning to become a fucking death eater lol
True, especially considering the Sorting Hat specifically mentioned that Harry could have fit into Slytherin as well as Gryfindor. So the big two were completely expected.
It's kinda ironic that the book is about Harry's son, Albus, being cursed by his dad's shadow and the actual book is cursed by the whole Harry Potter series' shadow
We don't count the cursed child as a part of Harry Potter series. the story ended with Harry defeating Voldemort. That's it we were done. Amazing story line amazing movies and books why did we need a bloody add-on for no fucking reason.
"He [Harry] marries Ginny. They live happily ever after. There is literally no way to move forward from this point." -A Very Potter Sequel, which came out 6 years before Cursed Child did.
@@bongosmcdongos4190 2 months late, but it's a pretty good Harry Potter musical by Starkid. A Very Potter Sequel is the sequel to A Very Potter Musical.
the thing im most annoyed about is how Cedric, a HUFFLEPUFF who was always known to be kind hearted and loyal, would turn into a *death eater* just because he lost a tournament? i mean its fine if they decided to change the 'hufflepuff never had a dark wizard' law, but still, it didn't really add to the story.
@dubusari he died in the 4th book, but Albus and Scorpius messed with time or something and he came back to life. Then he became a Death Eater just because he lost the Tournament. Hope that makes sense :)
@@sophias5224 Wait I didnt hear any mention of cedric being a death eater in the video, and I've just started to dive into this franchise so I'm sorry I dont know much.
@@sophias5224 The most wrong thing is, the time Turner can only turn back for 5 hour or less depending on the current time and the fact that they literally WENT to the past and saved cedric and shit completely messes with the whole explanation about the time Turner and hufflepuff's reputation and traits.
@@callummcdougall3741 look into Willy the Wizard and it's art and story. You'll see it. Plus the whole "Harry Potter is the chosen one" is straight out of Troll the movie.
@@hyoroemonmeto6874 Yes, it is. Also so why are you here just to piss off people who hate this book and force your opinion to them? If you have different opinion don't watch this video, that's all. If you hate dogs then don't come to a dog video's comment section just to raplay "this dog is a shit' to someone who like dogs.
it should DIE!!! LET IT DIE LET IT DIE! LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE! my best friend betrayed me by getting the "book" i told her to burn it. she hasnt yet UGHHH
My first ever harry potter fanfic I wrote was better and I could barely type back then. I wrote about Malfoy getting a bowl of oatmeal upturned over his head and someone got a picture of it.
@@samanthalau1592 I wish I still had it so you could read it. But, you're not really missing anything. It was written on a really low writing level. Like, "Malfoy saw a big bowl. It was blue. It had oatmeal in it. It was on a table. The table was brown." Maybe someday I will rewrite it with my now much higher reading comprehension level, and put it on a fanfiction site.
I've literally never met a younger person called Adolf. Lots of old people (born up to '45), but after that, the name was pretty much eradicated. You could call it an unspoken law that the name is simply illegal.
Over the last 7 years, there were a confirmed 130 newborns in Germany named Adolf. That's about 19 per year, and practically nothing. And I suppose that most of these parents are into really weird political scenes. This name has a really bad stigma, and shouldn'T be allowed. But well, there are also parents that call their kids Steißbein or Aldi.
"I am Voldemort's daughter" In that moment, I recalled Rowling saying Voldemort could not have children and from then on didn't really believe much of what she has said in Twitter
Pretty sure Voldemort is incapable of having children.... Y'know... Because of his CHARACTER ORIGINS! Cursed Child is a very awesome time travel book but a terrible HP book.
I can't believe J.K Rowling allowed this book to go on, it's just an awful way to end a great book series. My problems: a) Harry is described so egoistic, arrogant, and a boastful hero b) There is no bonding between the characters c) Hermoine is so not like herself d) The weird moments just not gr8 e) Cedric; a death eater....like really...gosh f) I refuse to believe Voldemort had a child g) The writers didn't even read the previous books...how awful !! h) We are shown nothing abt hogwarts The play was awful
@@dinodude367isyes5 Well, yeah the play sequence made me up a bit. But let's be real, from Emma Watson to....??, Rupert Grint to...??, and Daniel Radcliffe to...?? No matter how good this play was, it can never match an unedited part of any of the previous 8 films.
Well, in the books Harry is arrogant as well, so it doesn't bother me that much. Harry isn't the real hero in books. Most of the times he's just lucky or winning because he has knowledgeable friends, but alone? He's nothing.
@@Raattchen Well, he was a teen that time and no one expected him to be a hero, and he made friends that would help him on the quest of defeating Voldemort. Plus, he was never arrogant and especially never told anyone that he wished thou wouldn't have existed. He was brave and never showed off.
@@magicalambientmusic1621 If there is anyone that would cast a love potion on the most uhmm... _beautiful_ person on land, its probably the second most uhmm... _beautiful_ person on earth. Well, sounds like a plausible answer, give yer that. And if u didnt get it, I was being sarcastic about the supposed beauty of YouKnowWho and Bellatrix Lestrange.
I'm still annoyed about the deaths of Hedwig, Sirius and Fred. They offered nothing but shock factor. I suppose Sirius' death could be explained as character development for Harry, but like... Come on, let him have a father figure other than Hagrid. He isn't Spiderman
@@hazeltree7738 There's some value in having a villain or system of villains who don't go down without due sacrifice, it makes them more threatening, but I don't like it when the pets die
@@hazeltree7738 seriously! Lupin and Tonks too! Literally nothing but shock value because despite Lupin’s importance we don’t even see him die, it’s just mentioned Dolohov killed him but it’s Harry’s thoughts and how could Harry know that when he was busy watching Fred die? And we don’t even see who killed him it’s just an explosion. Though I can say, it would’ve cheapened the story if there weren’t losses that heavy. Fred dying just as he made up with Percy was just…OMFG 🥲 lol so I get it but it just sucks that we don’t at least get a death scene for Lupin and we don’t see who killed Fred.
The very notion of Voldemort having a child in case he died goes against his entire character and motivation towards everything he's ever done. No matter how you spin it, Voldemort doesn't have back-up plans in case he dies because he believes he can _never_ die. The Horcruxes were to ensure he never truly died, that was it. Even when he discovered Harry was hunting the Horcruxes, he kept telling himself that Harry would never find and destroy all of them, and his first thought wouldn't be _"I better impregnate Bellatrix so my child could keep my memory alive and possibly go back in time to prevent my possible death"_ because HE WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THE NOTION THAT HE _MIGHT_ DIE
There's also the thing that he himself being alive is what mattered to him. The idea that he'd care about someone else keeping his memory alive is vomitous.
It's the "All was well" part. Rowling literally rewrote the final lines so it was very clear that Voldemort would NEVER come back. And then,we got this...
@Noah Avshalom in my story, Albus is secretly living up to his dad, but only Rose, Scorpius, (and a new character of my own invention) Lucas Flint know he keeps getting into high jinx and mysteries to solve, unbeknownst to anyone, he’s teased by the school for being the ‘Slytherin Squib’ in his first and second year, because he has James Sirius’s old wand, and and in third and fourth for being a Potter in Slytherin, and is now named the ‘Cursed Child’ by the entirety of the school, except his friends and family.
@@H_WLL I didn’t like it cause it didn’t make any sense. His whole family was in Gryffindor. And before you say “Sirius was a Gryffindor and his family was in Slytherin”, his family was evil, and Sirius was not.
Written before watching: Although flawed, I enjoy the book, HOWEVER I refuse to believe that Cedric, a HUFFLEPUFF would become a death eater because he was humiliated. No.
I think the idea of a Hufflepuff death eater is interesting, because there's just no reason all of them should be slytherin. Cedric personally though, I agree it just doesn't fit and feels like it's out of left field.
@@lemortedbrian6070 I just find it hard to believe that all of them are from one house, I'm not saying that most of them aren't from Slytherin. To talk books, JKR signed onto the Cursed Child where Digory a hufflepuff helped VoldyTort pretty handidly, and Regulus and Snape are heros while Pettigrew is a Gryffindor. Not to mention the younger Greengrass I believe helped the Hogwarts resistance. The lore of Slytherin himself I know less about, but I vauegly recall he made these choices during the persecution of wizards. I'm Not saying he was right, or that all Slytherins are misunderstood. I simply don't think that all of them are the same.
@@lemortedbrian6070 What people seem to forget about the Death Eaters is that they are not simply supporters of Voldemort. The Death Eaters form a secret society founded by Voldemort. So on one hand you need to have the mentioned attributes to qualify for the job AND people also forget that you cannot simply declare yourself a Death Eater. You have to be accepted into their ranks by Voldemort. Then again Wormtail is a non-Slytherin Death Eater. Anyways we will never find out if Cedric would turn to the evil side since Time Turners work according to the Novikov self-consistency principle and the premise of The Cursed Child is rubbish to begin with. But hey. Good effort from the writers. Keep up the work... at least that's what I read into JKR notion about the piece.
I got to see this monstrosity on the stage, and let me tell you, if it weren't for the writing this would have been the best play I've ever seen. The costuming, the choreo, and the set were all so well made I almost forgot the writing sucked. When they revealed all of Delphi's writing, I actually gasped since it covered the walls and floors of the entire theatre. The train scene was so good. They used revolving floors and lots of stairs throughout the play and it was so beautifully made. The costumes were amazing as well. I cannot rave about the play enough. I just wish the writing didn't destroy the whole thing.
I would have better understand trying to save Sirius (Who was almost Harry's father), Dumbledore (Who could have lived if it wasn't for the curse on the ring), Fred (Who had no real reason to die), Snape (Even though I think he would have preferred to simply die as he did) or even Lupin and Nimphadora, But Cedric? It's like...Why? Not even the fans complained about it and it didn't even felt as "too much" (Unlike the rest of the characters I mentioned). So again...Why?
Well, I'm not... One thing that most people don't understand, what make someone a Slytherin is not wether the person evil, cunning, self-preservation or any other personalities traits, what make a Slytherin is when that person is convince that magic is only for people born with magical blood (pure blood).. that's why Salazar Slytherin create Slytherin house... So how can Albus, whom grown with Hermione as an aunt think like that...
@@scorpiongurlz89 If you are a muggle born, you aint going in Slytherin, however thats because Salazar banned it. But Slytherins can have somewhat differing views on blood purity and magic.
@@lil_weasel219 Why would a muggle born think magic is only for a pure blood? And if you talking about Snape and Slughorn. Snape give an exception for Lily cause he's in love with her, he's still insulted other muggle born and he started changing after Lily died. We didn't know anything about Slughorn in his student year so I can't say anything about that, but even when he told Harry that he's not prejudiced toward muggle born, even Harry think that Slughorn, and I quote "much too surprised that a Muggle-born should make a good witch."
I refuse to believe Harry Potter, who spent the first 11 years of his life loveless and in a literal cupboard, would turn around and be a horrible father to his son. And I refuse to believe that Ginny Weasely, daughter of two parents who always cared for her and loved her and did their best, would let this happen.
It's pretty realistic, to be honest. Harry doesn't really understand what it means to be a good parent, because he didn't have those in his life. Also, people who had experienced pain have a penchant for spreading it further. Of course, Harry would put every bit of effort into being as good a father as can be, but I can imagine him just... Snapping at some point. And regretting it later.
@@Underworlder5 it's true in a general sense, I believe: people who cause pain to others, more often than not, do so because they themselves are in pain.
@@cheekibreeki904 yup, but we see in the order of the phoenix that ginny is actually one of the only people that communicates or stops his temper tantrums, so why would she let him do this-
It really is, but fans were desperate for a new book, so Rowling made a pile of shit that diehards will eat up. True fans hate her for this, but she does not care. She wants money. So she panders to minorities too.
I mean. To be fair, i don't really care what skin color a person it as long as they have skill to pull off whatever they are doing. It's just bugging me because of continuity problems. And yes, in the book covers she IS depicted she is shown with white skin. I mean, it's not much of a problem as much as it is a small nit pick. Really. The story itself is not that great (in my opinion).
Arcaan P Story wise it isn’t continuity problematic. The actors are merely visuals for the story. What is written down is the canon. Although I have trouble actually considering Cursed Child to be canon. Consider the actors being drastically different looking as something of a real life art style change. Look at Cortana throughout the Halo series as an example; it’s always her, but her look changes dramatically and once you add in the Anniversary versions of games you can’t even use the excuse she’s changing her appearance; she merely looks different based on the artists that time around.
Spring Day Is Not Today I dunno how long it has been since you read the books but she is very often described as a pale girl with auburn hair. And yes, JK and Emma approved...because what the hell else were they supposed to do? They'd get lynched on social media if they didn't approve. Mind you, maybe they really didn't mind but regardless of if it bothered them or not, in our modern society they just had to say that they approved, theres no other real choice if you wanna keep your career.
I used to think people only hated the Cursed Child because a black woman was cast to play Hermione. But then I read Harry Potter and realised this is pretty much just a rushed fanfiction
Honestly, The thing that actually pissed most people off is JK Rowling decided to go ahead and talk about making the Cursed Child cannon, meaning that this fanfic of a play is possibly now part of the full HP story.
@@luc751 Its a *stage play*. Next time Hermione could be a dude. The actors change constantly. You're shooting for stars and hitting the moon, you fucking dingus.
@@Marv-th8qc If I recall correctly, it was flat out stated in chapter 21 of Prisoner of Azkaban. I also recall her clearly drawing Hermione to have pale skin.
the only things i liked from the cursed child: •albus being a slytherin •albus and scorpius being best friends that has so much potential but goddamn did they fail at it
In an early draft, there book was going to shift perspective between two characters (similar to A Song of Ice and Fire aka game of thrones). The first perspective character being Albus who IS sorted into Griffy house (and is in his 3rd year) - and the second character was a first year who is sorted into Slytherin and is resentful due to the stigma. Scorpius (again, 3rd year) is of course Slytherin and befriends the 2nd perspective character and much of the book jumped between Albus, Rose and a third new character, and the 2nd perspective character and Scorpius - with the two groups not even crossing paths in the first book but their actions affect each other. There was going to be some moment where the 2nd perspective character has an epiphany that being sorted into Slythrin brought out the best in him because it made him work harder and improve himself, whereas being sorted into one of the other houses would have caused him to become complacent. I assume at a certain point, the 2nd perspective character becomes the main character after the others graduate - and my theory is he become the Slytherin prefect - or maybe he himself takes on a pouty 1st year slytherin
He was given so many incredibly helpful and valuable things, and he gives his son something that would only mean something nostalgic to himself? Yeah, right.
She said his scar hadn't pained him in nineteen years. She actually didn't say anything about the future. It's still plenty consistent, if a bit dumb. - Lewis
Black Hermione is not cannon. It is the magic of theatre that means that Hermione is black (in theatre, actors can play characters intended to be a different sex/race/age to themselves). Hermione is never described as black in the books (when other characters like Kingsley and Dean Thomas are) and in a concept picture drawn by JK Rowling herself, Hermione is white, not black. I have no idea why people suddenly think that because an actress playing Hermione is black, that means that the actual character is canonically black. Heck, JK herself hasn't said black Hermione is cannon, only said that people can see what they want her to be.
Also, Harry potter books are escapist. It's fun to imagine yourself going to Hogwarts and experiencing adventures alongside the gang. The Cursed Child is anything but escapist.
thats It! I always thought something off was ab it and i realised that i would never want ti even be a background in the world this book was built in. It doesnt even feel like its the same universe as the originals istg
It's really disappointing that this ended up so bad, because I legitimately love the idea of Albus (still an Unfortunate name...) getting sorted into Slytherin and proving that it really doesn't matter what House you're in, and it would've been cool to see focus on Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw as well. But we got this. So. :/
TealTreeKangaroo Yeah Albus being a good and funny teen close to his father and very clever! ... But no! We got a DarkSaSukE teen that hates everyone and everything and..sucks at magic! I would rather follow the story of his older brother James!
The James potter book series is so much better than the cursed child Plus it seems that a lot of the cursed child story took inspiration from the James Potter series too (which was 'approved' by jk herself)
@@lam9090 are you kidding? How boring would it be with James. 'Look at me im a perfect kid who does magic okay, i got sorted into gryffindor and i have loads of friends and don't want to save anyone' how fucking boring that would be. Albus was portrayed as a moody teenager with dad issues SO he could try and save cedric. The book and play are so interesting (if you havent watched the play you should cuz it changed my mind over the book 100%) why does albush have to be perfect to be good? Its way more gripping that he argues with his dad which leads to trying to save cedric, and then his dad, their future. I honestly dont see your problwm lmao... its a good plot
@@heatherroberts8002 my problem was it has too many plot holes and besides Albus isnt much of a good character and didnt resonate remotely as much as harry from PS
@@heatherroberts8002 I can imagine that the production is as amazing as everyone claims.. I even like the fact that albus panics because of all the pressure to be like his dad. That must be really hard. But that's about every positive aspect I see in that story. It's not even plot holes, it's so many things perfectly contradicting how the world works in the previous books and movies.
Voldemort would not have a kid. He was all about seizing all the power for himself. He would never knowingly create a potential rival. Also the love potion theory is stupid. I give Voldemort more credit than to be tricked by Bellitrix. Cedric would never turn evil and Harry wold never tell his son he wised he didn't have a son. This whole play is utter nonsense. Did Rowling even read the books?
Voldemort wouldn't have spawned a kid _eight years_ after his final death. Especially considering Astoria (That's Draco's wife, right?) would've been, what, 15? 16? when he died. Edit, I haven't dared to poison my mind with this story, so I have no idea what I'm talking about in terms of the mother. But having it be Bellatrix is even worse, because she died just as definitively as her master.
@@bluesbest1 Delphi was born on the same year Voldemort died. There is one glaring plot-hole. Bellatrix was seen quite a bit on Harry's last year. Did it look like she was pregnant? No. Snape would have known something too if that was the case.
@@atkin207 Well, I was referring to the rumors about Voldemort being Scorpius' father, but, again, I've never poisoned my mind with "The eighth book". My original comment was picking at a nit in regards to something I know nothing about.
@NoMemesIn#General No it wasn’t. It only said that it hadn’t pained him for 19 years. Which is true. It didn’t say “Harry’s scar never pained him for the rest of his life”
Isn't it weird how JK specifically wrote nineteen? Like that just bothers me. Why not "the rest of his life" why nineteen???? *I would probably die before I get this answered.*
Big Potterhead here (read/write fanfiction etc.). I'd AVOIDED The Cursed Child specifically to avoid tarnishing in any way my appreciation for the originals. And I'm glad I didn't read/watch it now. Hearing your summary and analysis make me think that, a few years earlier, this would have killed my continuing fascination with the series. Your bit at the end analysing what a "Proper Harry Potter story" consists of is spot on. I've read far too many fan-mad stories which, while executed at the low-level well enough, they focus on the Harry Potter stuff and don't build their own mysteries into the world. Meanwhile there's a 1+ million word-count fanfiction (Prince of the Dark Kingdom), which has endless mystery and could quite honestly have been made into its own series outside of Harry Potter.
book 3: The time turner cant change the past because it already happened! cursed child: NO! If u visit the past for 5 minutes then the whole world changes!
And most importantly they hand them like candies. But you know, who needs a functioning Ministry of Magic which checks these weapons where you have a plot which allows everything? Like continuous retcons, gargantuan plot holes and a purposeless need for action in the Potterverse? *J.K. Rowling doesn't. And she wants you to not have the same need.*
Rose´s character was completelly wrong. There is no way a child of Hermione and Ron would be so mean and clasist as to ignore and be rude to her own COUSIN that way. The only time the Weasleys did something similar was to Percy, but they were at the beguinning of a war and things were a bit tense. Rose declared war against James because he was sorted to Slythering. Really? After the last book? After reading about the redemption of Snape, Regulus, Slughorn and Malfoy? We still must believe Slythering house is all evil and dark? Shame on you "writers"
You are so right. The only thing I can think about it is that the "writers" thought that, just like Ron, Rose would hate so much a Malfoy, and that just like Hermione, Rose would hate a bad student-emo kid like Albus. It doesn't make aaaany sense anyways, for me this piece of shit isn't canon.
This! This! This! While Harry not be a great Dad at times bugged me I also understand that it happens, as an abused child who is now and adult and parent I understand that sometimes stupid things are said in frustration and anger no matter how hard you try to be a better parent/person. What really got me was how horrible Rose Weasley was, I don't like Ron very much and I don't think he would have changed much in terms of disliking Malfoys or Slytherins but I am certain that Hermione would never ever ever stand for the way their daughter was behaving, she was a 100% bitch for no reason whatsoever
@@Bourikii2992different from them, yes, but with the kind of morals and education those two have, I doubt very much that Ron and Hermione would approve of that behaviour from one of their kids, specially with their own blood. And for something so stupid as being in another house.
Umm isn't madam Hooch "YOUNG" She was like 30 or so in Harry Potter era so she would be in her 50s in cursed child era Don't get me wrong I HATE cursed child but this can't be said
@@sparksfly6149 i think that’s the new canon. i mean the last time i checked dumbledore’s age was a long time ago, but rowling has probably changed it like she has so many other things not expressly stated in the text
I'm gonna be a bit more generous and say Slytherin Albus could've been fun (the problem with skipping year one is that he now cannot get over that plot point in a timely manner without it being dropped entirely), the apocalypse timeline was cool as a bit of what-if conjecture that needed a better cause (in a non-canon work that didn't have to follow the time turner rules, I'd say that should've been the entire middle, maybe with Albus slowly disappearing or something so that we can pretend Scorpius isn't the only good character) and... that's it. I don't have a third thing.
Wasnt Cedrics whole point that he was too good to be true and Harry didn’t trust him because of it but he was actually just a really good person? And Voldemort has a SON?
I can't even express how wrong the whole 'i wish you weren't my son' thing was. Harry's character would never say that having suffered through an awful childhood where all he wanted was a family of his own.
If they _must_ use the Deus Ex Machina of the time turner as a plot device, they should have: a.) Chosen a much better thing to do than save Cedric Diggory. Examples I can think of off of the top of my head are: 1.) Kill Peter Pettigrew before he has the chance to betray the Potters. I can't actually think of a better one than that. 2.) Prevent Bellatrix Lestrange from killing Sirius Black. If you want something less likely to fuck up the timeline. 3.) Prevent Albus Dumbledore from being cursed by the ring horcrux. 4.) A mixture of options 2 and 3. b.) Make changes to the timeline done by these broken time turners permanent. Fucking with the timeline should have consequences that can't be undone simply by more fucking with the timeline.
Oh God sweet yes!!! Wish I could give you more likes. If the story was more like that and at the end a permanent change done was something as simple as Sirius coming back from the dead but someone else dying instead, I would have been like: Well, this is pure fan service, but I think I'm okay with that.
Well about the whole ring horcrux. I would say it either changes nothing (because maybe dumbledore still goes to the cave with Harry and still sacrifices himself) or it would possible just postpone the battle of hogwarts until after dumbledore dies which could have minor consequences (i think).
@@parkchimmin7913 Especially since he had good role models as a teen. Lupin and Sirius being his most prominent father figures, and the Weasleys treating him like one of their own. But i guess after hearing your kid say ' i wish you weren't my dad' and 'you should stop trying' over and over you'd let things like that slip.
Ok, I completely agree with this video The cursed child has an incredibly poor story, but I saw it on stage 3 years ago and it is incredible - the spells, everything. If you ignore the story while watching it, you may actually really enjoy it
okay, i'm about to go on a rant here my friends. Harry went through mental- and probably physical- abuse in the sixteen (give or take a little bit) years that he lived with the Dursleys. for the first ten years, he was unloved (until he became an honorary Weasley and made friends at Hogwarts), so he knew the feeling of not being appreciated by family. now, throughout the first seven books (the only relevant books in the Potterverse, in my opinion), Harry has proven himself to be someone that loved his friends and "family" (the Weasleys, of course) fiercely. it seems he would do absolutely *ANYTHING* for them and would never turn his back on them. now suddenly, he has a son, and he just... doesn't love him? he pushes Albus away, just as the Dursleys had done to him. to me, Harry was not someone who would hate his son for 1. being a Slytherin (he was almost put in Slytherin himself and even says in the epilogue of DH2 and the DH book that he didn't care what house Albus was in!!) 2. being friends with Scorpius, who if the CC Harry would get to know, was nothing like Draco the entire script of CC had me *CRINGING* at every scene that involved Harry or mentioned him. it ruined the character of Harry Potter. it turned him into this fame-obsessive (which in the first 7 books, he was very obviously uncomfortable with), abusive, unloving person that he doesn't seem to be. *sorry for this crazy rant but ughhhhhh i hate Cursed Child so muchhhhhh* (edit: spelling)
"Sometimes I wish you weren't my son!" Yeah, no, this is not Harry Potter. I could maybe see him saying this in the heat of the moment (emphasis on maybe, since he does have a temper, but something that harsh is still out of character), but you mean to tell me he lets it sit there?? He doesn't immediately regret it and try to make it up to his son?? If you want us to believe that these characters would react in a way entirely different from their established personalities, you need to do the heavy lifting and show us what made them change, what experiences they've had that caused their entire outlook to do a 180.
@@jequirity1 but i dont even think he would say that in the heat of the moment. even with a temper, the Harry Potter i grew up with would never say that to his own child. after all, he was abused for the first eleven years of his life and i feel like he wouldn't want to make his own kids feel unloved. plus, we all know Ginny would NEVER let him say that.
Replying to a 2 month old comment, but I think the idea that one was abused doesnt mean that they won't abuse their children. Sure, they can be portrayed as good people, but it has been seen that abused are more likely to abuse, even if not on purpose. But yes, they didn't explain any of the development of Harry's charatcer and how he changed and developed from his 7 years to his eventual adulthood, which is hard to do in plays. This just seemed doomed from the start.
@@benjaminkim2216 yes, that is true BUT the rapid turn that Harry's character took in this play is insane. he went from hating his fame and feeling uncomfortable to absolutely loving it and taking advantage of it. so even if the abused are more likely to abuse, there are still other things that don't align with the original Harry Potter.
It's so weird that in the Prisoner of Azkaban the time turner didn't actually change the timeline: there were already two versions of Harry and Hermione before they used the time turner, but the play writers decided to go full Back to the Future on this. Also Voldemort would never have a child. So weird
The problem is that time turners just go back a couple of hours and using it you can't actually Change anything because it already happened, you're just going through the motions like harry casting the patronus at the end of PoA "I know I could do it because I had already done it" there is a reason that nearly every fanfiction that has long term time travel uses unknown magical phenomenon or cosmic entities like death or fate etc. : Its more realistic
The biggest gripe I have is that it makes no sense for either of the main characters to be in Slytherin. Albus isn't cunning or ambitious, and Scorpius just wants to make friends and keep his head down. It's clear that Albus is only put in Slytherin for the drama. So what's a better solution? Put both of them in Hufflepuff. Not only is it more accurate to their characters, but the story can still have the "failing your family's/society's expectations" thing because Hufflepuff is one of the more irrelevant houses, so Albus is becoming a disappointment not by being in Slytherin, but by being in a house so devoid of excitement and drama that he's a disappointment anyways.
This was honestly just... Disappointing. It was like a really bad fanfiction, and as someone who reads a lot of fan fiction I can definitely say that. Time travel? Check. Voldemorts child? Check. Stupid plot and bad writing? Check. Come on guys, do better than that.
I remember years ago, me and a friend laughed at the idea of Voldemort ever having a child. It was just such a stupid thought, and made no sense for the character. Then boom, cursed child happens.
@@PokeStatsStudios same! I would avoid any mention of Voldemort having a child because of how insanely stupid it was, and it just recently sunk in that cursed child was ABOUT voldemorts child. It just made absolutely no sense at all
Harry as a parent would be much more understandable if you flesh out him trying to be a good parent but maybe falling flat because he never had parents and the Dursleys were over the top abusive. Maybe giving his kids too much freedom and paying for his actions then would better. Also not understanding the sibling dynamic like Ginny would with her five brothers would flesh out her character and show she can make up got harry's shortcomings. Rose is literally too perfect, hardly any flaws makes her unlikable. Hermione was a know it all, but lacked street smarts that Ron and Harry made up for, and visa versa.
Right? Harry in that book doesn't seem like harry at all, especially when he told albus how he (harry) wished he was never his son like harry would never say that to anyone, not after he spent half his life being unwanted by dursleys.
@@janhavishigwan1347 Exactly! That honestly just made me put the book down. It took me out of it completely. I wish they at least hade put more effort in their conflicts and worked up towards it more
The trolley witch was the point when I realized I was, in fact, reading bad harry potter fanfiction, and that honestly made the entire thing a whole lot more enjoyable.
How did anxious friendly little Scorpius end up in Slytherin? I love him, but his biggest ambitions were to have friends and not get bullied. And he radiated some major Hufflepuff energy during his friendship with Albus
I think all Malfoys have been Slytherin but you are right he feels like a mix of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw. Anyway I think it's a way of showing that ambition is not only about power
man, i forgot so much of this story that i was starting to wonder "was it really that bad??" and then every time you said something that made me remember a part of it it just made me cringe because YES. IT REALLY WAS THAT BAD.
Why isn't this book called boruto Potter? Since all i'm getting from this book is "the son of this guy" and "do you remember this character from the past"...
No shitty parents, no drama. But I think that's a misconseption. Children are totally capable of screwing it up no matter how good their parents are. So I rather take the crowning moment of badass when the next generation is in major distress and our beloved hero(es) step in and wipe the floor with the enemies, because they are just that awesome.
I just don't get how come nobody involved when writing and making this play pointed out that the whole plot revolve around using the Time Turner to do something a Time Turner cannot do. The Time Turners don't change the past. That was the whole point of the few last chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban, everything that Harry and Hermione did while in the past was something that had already happened when they lived through it the first time. As you said, its a closed time loop. You can't change the past with a Time Turner because anything you do in the past with a Time Turner has already happened. If you could save Cedric with the Time Turner then he would already be saved in the present!
giantWario You're right. Patronus causality. It was the whole point of the third book. If it were otherwise, why wouldn't Riddle use one to acquire the hallows and vanquish Harry/Dumbledore? I consider the cursed child mediocre fanfiction.
giantWario actually you along with everyone else are absolutely and amazingly ignorantly wrong about that one fact and apparently didnt pay attention... remeber the scene where hermoine and harry are about to use the Time Turner...what did Dumbledore tell them before he left 🤔🤔🤔🤔... so yes you can change the past using a Time Turner... there was a reason why they were constantly avoiding everyone and making sure they werent seen and not messing with anything that they werent there too mess with
Richard Grace ...yes and that reason was that people who meet their past selves with the Time Turner end up killing themselves even if they know Time Turners are a thing. I guess you just missed that part even though that was the only reason why Harry stayed in the shadows. You also seems to have missed the entire epilogue where we can see that everytime they were saved the first time, it was by their future selves. They litterally woudn't have lived through the night if it wasn't a closed time loop, they coudn't have even gotten to the infirmary to use the Time Turner if their future selves hadn't already saved them!
giantWario my whole.point is that you can change the future using time turners depending on the decisions y pi u make I mean as you said yourself of they hadn't have stayed in the shadows then they wpilsnt have saved their future self ... if hairy hadn't got hit in the back of the head by a shell then they wouldnt have left hagrets house...
+Richard Grace In that same book, all the events that they change happened before they actually went back in time. It's hard to explain but if you are familiar with the plot, you know what I mean. By that established logic, it is actually impossible to change anything that's already happened, Cedric dying (or whatever else they changed) already happened so it breaks logic that they changed it. The time turner was a pretty dumb idea to begin with but the logic they created in book 3 can just about cover any potential plotholes, TCC however means that they could have just used it at any point and changed the past. Oh no, James and Lily Potter died, let's go back in time a day, send entire order of the phoenix to Godric's Hollow and blow the ever living shit out of Voldemort, that's the logic they created in TCC.
I can relate with this so well. I also remember literally growing up with the Potter franchise. I felt the thrill of waiting for the next book to come out and wondering how the story will go. And I had the same thrill when I realized that a new book was out. It really really disappointed me when I read the book. I felt really sad.
...Ya know what would've made for a more interesting story? If Albus were a squib, and the whole play were about the son of the legendary hero, and said legendary hero himself, coming to terms with the realization that he had to forge his own destiny because it was impossible for him to live up to his father's legacy. It kind of seems like that's what the first act was hinting at.
It'd be better if Albus still managed to have a more contained mystery adventure still. Showing everyone that a squib can also achieve something in a world of wizardry instead of being given menial jobs like Filch or Harry's neighbor lady.
And in the end he's gonna get some magic-related power maybe like outstanding resistance or being very convincing or sth else to save his friends or everyone from death and proving himself to be powerful in his own way... Damn... now I really wanna read a Fanfiction like that!...
what went wrong: the CURSED CHILD is completely UNNECESSARY absolutely UNNECESSARY - Harry Potter’s story was done complete satisfactory wrapped up - there were SEVEN YRS and seven stories - done and dusted - that’s what went wrong
I think all we really wanted (at least for me) was some new adventure. Not bringing Voldemort back in the worst way possible, but maybe just a fun story of their life in Hogwarts with some cool Easter eggs and good characters. I think most of us would've been cool with that, it wasn't at least for me the fact that they should've dropped it, it was the fact that they did a crap job of making it
I just really wanted to see how everyone was doing from the Epilogue, I didn't really care or need a new villain or some screwed up story. I'd have just liked to have seen everyone and how their lives turned out.
after i finished The Cursed Child the day after it came out, i went and read My Immortal for the first time and I legitimately liked it more than cursed child.
I'm surprised that McGonagall didn't retire the moment she found out that the Potter, Weasley and Granger family lines merged together and the kids were heading thier way to Hogwarts about 11 years after the first of the kids was born. She gets an owl with a letter announcing the birth of James Sirius and she thinks: "... I feared this day would come..."
SPOILERS!!!! Actually, that part makes sense. I mean, why wouldn't he have fathered a child? Bellatrix was all over him. The lack of backstory for the girl is very jarring, though. No, the girl is not the problem with the story. The biggest problem is the revisits of characters who we DID NOT need to revisit. Those are the "fan fic" parts. The "let's save Diggory" and "Voldemort's daughter" parts are actually quite good. They just really needed to cut out frigging Hagrid, Snape, Dumbledore and Cedric himself. They were so not needed for the story. Completely superfluous and stupid. We didn't need the bit where they tell Cedric that his father was proud of him (gag) or where they tell Snape how things went in the other timeline so he feels appreciated (bleurgh). No no no. And don't get me started on the last Hagrid scene which completely ruined the incredibly powerful part where Harry sees his parents die.
Because the love potion he was born under makes it impossible for him to experience real love, the only motivation he would've had to take time out of his EVIL PLAN OF EVIL to do the do with you know who? or was that sarcasm, cause I can't distinguish internet sarcasm
When the Deathly Hallows Part 1 gets a re-release, they can add a screaming baby in the background in the Malfoy Manor scene and subsequently have Bellatrix saying "WILL YOU SHUT UP YOU STUPID BABY??!!!!!" At least it will make Delphi existing feasible XD.
@@grandpaseal793 it literally completely ruins the "mudblood" racism that is shown throughout the books. Hermione's struggles with being a "mudblood" allowed white children who identified with her to see a form of racism and learn how it hurts. You make her black and now shes less identifiable to the white kids who could learn shit from it and she likely already would have had to deal with racism anyway so this is just an extra helping of it.
I know this is an old video but it is exactly what I needed to see right now - a humorous and spot-on critique of the screenplay from a not-obsessed fan. Bravo. Thank you for articulating so many of the issues I had with this work. The unsatisfying character development, the inconsistent time-travel rules, the missed opportunities... nearly everything you pointed out was something that I noticed reading it, but you put your finger on it better than I could in a single reading. And your final point, about the books being mysteries rather than fantasy, is literally the same realization I recently had while re-reading them as an adult. In truth, I think fantasy is not so much a genre as a setting. All good fantasy (and sci-fi) stories are at their core good stories, but wrapped in a unique and interesting setting that takes us out of our ordinary world and presents a sandbox with nearly infinite opportunities for the author to create and invent. The world of Harry Potter is delightfully whimsical, romantic, surprising, and humorous. But what draws me in is the story, the characters, the intrigue and mystery, and the moral lessons. This screenplay lifted the magical setting from the books, but none of the other narrative qualities that I associate with the original series. I think to blame the problem on the advertising is generous to a fault. As another "retired" Potterhead who apparently lives under a rock, I only just discovered that this play existed, after indulging in some nostalgia now that my oldest kid is reading the books for the first time. I never saw any advertisements or trailers. I got a paperback copy and could immediately tell from the cover that it fell somewhere between fanfiction and a reboot. So my expectations were low...but not low enough. I really wanted to like it. I really did like parts of it. A few, very short parts. But the problems with the story overall got so bad I was cringing by the end of the second act. A few additional problems you neglected to mention: the Polyjuice potion the kids manage to brew on the same day they jumped off the train. I think book 2 clearly established that Polyjuice potion takes several months to brew, and requires a slew of hard to find ingredients. That was a really hard plot hole to overlook. I also thought the prophetic dreams were a bit of a mcguffin, and Harry's scar hurting during the (original) timeline where Voldemort is still dead (supposedly because spacetime ruptures were imminent? I guess?) seems to defy the previously established rules about the severing of their connection in book 7. I also thought the changing timelines were extremely confusing. The constant back and forth; the scenes between time jumps with the parents running around trying to find, fix, discipline, or rescue the children while also fretting about Voldemort, who, let's remind ourselves, is still dead; the lack of clarity about whether previous scenes had still happened after subsequent jaunts into the past; and confusion about, for example, what would have happened to the original Hermione and Ron, had the dark fascist parallel universe versions of them managed to make it back to the original universe. (Would there have been 2 of each of them? Would one version of them have ceased to exist? Which one? Is it a parallel universe that the boys are travelling between? Or are they actually changing the present and thereby killing off and reanimating characters?) And how is it that no time paradoxes are generated by all this clambering around in the spacetime continuum? Also, the whole Voldemort's child thing, strains credulity. Even the proliferation about the rumor about Scorpius strains credulity. But even with Delphi, when exactly was Bellatrix supposed to have been pregnant and given birth? Some time during book 7? Wasn't she busy running around doing Death Eater activities throughout that year? Wasn't she torturing Hermione at Malfoy Manor shortly before the Battle of Hogwarts? You can't just insert a pregnancy and birth into all that without seriously fudging with the original story. I could go on but really I just gave up trying to explain things pretty early on and decided to treat it like a piece of fan fiction rather than part of the canon. Possibly most disappointing is the failure of Albus and Harry to ever really figure out the problems in their relationship - Albus never gets that insight into his dad's past that could have been so poignant had it been explored in scenes like first Triwizard task, and Harry never figures out that the "black cloud" around Albus, which portrait-Dumbledore also hints at, is the fog of Harry's own legacy, and both his and Albus' inability to see each other through it. I kept waiting for that scene where either of them gets some insight into the other, I was hoping for a heart-wrenching moment of father-son connection, and I never got it. We get it with Harry and Dumbledore, but Harry fails to make the same bridge with his own son. It's disapointing to the point of tragic. It feels like the only character that really grows somewhat authentically is Scorpius, due to his experiences in the Voldemort-run world, which at least affords him an opportunity to do some soul-searching. But disapointingly, Albus misses out on this adventure because he's been wiped from existence (which also doesn't make a lot of sense, again, because the time travel rules are clumsily and inconsistently hinted at but never really made explicit or even clear). Well you've probably long since moved on from this video but I appreciate the satisfying critique and the opportunity to rant in agreement. I should have remembered the lesson I learned from the movies: JK Rowling's standards for the third-party-generated Potter- lore to which she gives her blessing, are far, far lower than the ones she holds herself to when she's actually writing.
“There are times i wish you werent my dad” “Well there are times i wish you werent my son” This is almost word-for-word taken from the live action Cat in The Hat
In terms of writing they're about as as bad as each other although I'd say Game of Thrones season 8 is more offensive because it was a terrible terrible ending to a once great story. The harry potter series ended just fine at the end of book 7 and cursed child is a forgettable, relatively easy to ignore waste of space. I can still go back and read books 1-7 and have a great time. To me game of thrones ends at the end of season 6 but that;s not a particularly satisfying conclusion as there are so many unresolved plot threads.
@Ilickmypopcornbag no it really was that bad even before the last episode. The bells is the biggest crime in literature history. Daenerys spending an hour burning all of king's landing for absolutely no reason whatsoever (giving cersei, the person she's supposed to mad with time to escape) after resisting attacking the capital for so long in fear of killing too many innocent people in the crossfire is the most nonsensical, stupid and offensive scene of all time. Dany may have forgotten about the iron fleet but I haven't forgotten how Arya stark teleported from nowhere behind the night king to kill him
Now we know why it's best to let authors die first before we make them famous. Not everyone of them will be like Stephen King who stays disciplined enough not to mess up his works. The same bullshit is happening with Game of Thrones.
I saw live a few years ago having not read the script. The staging and the way they adapted magic to the medium of theater was super well-done. I definitely was most engaged during the first part. At the end of the 1st part there are dementors everywhere and it’s so spooky and when you come back for part 2, all the ushers are wearing death eater uniforms (they wore Hogwarts uniforms for part 1) and they’re wishing you “Happy Voldemort Day!” which was a lot of fun. But part 2 just relies so heavily on what had already happened in the books rather than actually creating a NEW story about the kids doing their own things. I loved the kids characters and which they had had a chance to have their own story rather than keep living in their parents’ shadows.
Nobody: Jk: Albus Severus is actually Delphi’s Father because time turners, oh and Nagini is the Mom, and they are all different nationalities and devoted Catholics
i have a hard time believing harry, someone who definitely felt unloved throughout his entire childhood, would tell albus "i wish you weren't my son". all of the characterization in this felt hilariously off.
also, although i know harry expressed the desire to be an auror as a child, i feel like it would have better suited his character to have him become a teacher at hogwarts. i highly doubt that a boy who was on the front lines of a war for most of his childhood would jump at the chance to become a wizard cop.
these were my thoughts exactly! i thought i was the only one sure that Harry would not want to be an auror after everything he went through, anymore.. i also felt he'd rather become a teacher at Hogwarts, maybe for Defense Against the Dark Arts.
who knows t That was the worst part of the book for me. Harry is a nice guy. A parent just doesn’t *say* that to his kid. There’s also the whole thing where Harry is suspicious because Albus is in slytherin. It totally contradicts the original epilogue.
you have to understand that people chagne as they get older. kid 11 year old harry is NOT adult harry. And if you can't accept that, it's ur problem. I hate the book but that IS a fact. Don't be a fanboy/fangirl thinking harry has to be perfect, character flaws are good.
+Gira I think telling your kid that you wish he wasn't your son goes past a typical character flaw. That's the kind of thing I would expect from an _unlikable_ character.I don't want to _dislike_ Harry.
Honestly would’ve been great to see Albus become a Ravenclaw. They’re canonically full of bullies who maliciously targeted Luna for years, and attention-seeking characters like Quirrell and Lockhart came from there too. They never really got any heroic characters except for Luna and Flitwick, and both of them were kinda overshadowed even then. It would also show a nice change in priorities from Harry to Albus. Albus would hope to escape fame unlike most Ravenclaws. He would seek true wisdom and knowledge rather than glory or justice. It would even start things up for Albus to be kinda dark-leaning, as Ravenclaw House has produced the second highest number of dark wizards. Scorpius himself could’ve been a great Hufflepuff. And the two low-attention Houses could’ve been in the spotlight.
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12 year old Scorpius is rumored to be the illegitimate child of Voldemort, who died 19 years ago? Gee, I wonder why nobody bought it
The rumor is drako couldn’t have children so they sent his woman back in time to bang Voldemort
@@infinnite10 That is one strange idea...
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That’s got to be the most fucked up timetravel scheme I’ve ever heard...!
no wonder draco couldnt have kids he split while playing Quidditch.
What the frick man. Nobody needed to know if draco could have kids.
I've read one fan theory that says harry potter and the cursed child never actually happend in the potterverse and it was all just an overblown attention hungry story written by rita skeeter inside the potterverse.
So JK Rowling if you ever feel like tweeting another random fact to add to the harry potter lore, here's my recommendation!
My money is on the events in the "Fantastic Beasts" movies being fabricated by Rita as well.
DaveLH the first one was passable, the second has one of the most laughably bad scripts I’ve seen in a very long time.
The fact that JKRowling wrote the script makes it laughable
JK: *nods and tweets another soliloquy about how wizards use the bathroom*
JK Rowling: *laughs in transphobia*
Harry went through years of feeling unloved while living with the Dursley’s. There is NO WAY he would make his son feel the same way by telling him he wished he weren’t his son. That is one of my biggest issues with this story. The characters are not consistent with those developed in the original series.
Sarah Collins did you see the play? Cause if you did it totally all clicks.
@@crits2524 how?
It's not that uncomment that people with a bad childhood act like their parents when they become parents
People who get hit from there parents tendence to hit their kids too
It's just unrealistic that harry doesn't show ANY sign of "social awkwardness" or anxiety because of his bad childhood experiences in one of the harry potter books and than he is a complete asshole 19 years later
I hope it's understandable what i want to say, i'm not super fluent in english
István Károly Farkas while what you say matters, how you say it is even more important.
AloeVera I get what you're saying, but like saying your child wasn't born is just next level. Way worse than anything the Dursleys told Harry
The part I hate most is the fact they made Cedric diggory into a death eater even though the whole reason people loved his character was his moral decency and kindheartedness
Here's a theory, the Goblet of Fire was rigged to allow Harry, who's to say that Cedric wasn't ALSO a plant? Him being so helpful to Harry serves Voldemort's plan, but without Cedric, Harry would have failed the second trial...
Cedric may have already been under sway of the Dark Lord, so his nice guy attitude was just an act. It's concievable
@@davidtucker9498 then why is he in Hufflepuff? Last time I checked, Hufflepuffs are loyal and moral
@@davidtucker9498 Well if Cedric was a spy, then why does he only tell Harry about the second task? If he was a spy for Voldemort, he would have done a lot more than vaguely tell Harry how to properly open the egg. He would have told him about the dragons and maze if his purpose was to help Harry out in tournament. Honestly, as a hufflepuff, turning one of the only important hufflepuff characters into a death eater feels like a slap in the face. Especially after the original books go out there way to characterize Cedric as a humble, brave, loyal, and a truly kind person.
Wasn't Ceddy like ready to let Harry the fucking goblet because he saved him and then they were like "let's take it together"? So clearly Cedric cared way too little about winning to become a fucking death eater lol
@@the117thelement Well... Actually Pettigrew was a Gryffindor and I'm sure he was not loyal and brave.
My biggest problems are 1) Harry being a horrible father made me feel gross and 2) Cedric becoming a death eater is so *wrong*
@Yaya M what happened to her?
@@alicia-hd2cs she climbed on the train after albus and scorpious and turns into an evil demon
@@alfiemccormack7988 can you elaborate more pls
@@alicia-hd2cs not really. I've read the book and the only other thing is that her fingers turn into knives
@@alfiemccormack7988 that makes no sense
Sorting Albus into Slitherin doesn't subvert expectations.
Sorting him into Hufflepuff, that would subvert expectations.
True, especially considering the Sorting Hat specifically mentioned that Harry could have fit into Slytherin as well as Gryfindor. So the big two were completely expected.
I predicted Hufflepuff myself.
yes!
Absolutely
Nothing is wrong with Hufflepuff
It's kinda ironic that the book is about Harry's son, Albus, being cursed by his dad's shadow and the actual book is cursed by the whole Harry Potter series' shadow
Yes, I completely agree
We don't count the cursed child as a part of Harry Potter series. the story ended with Harry defeating Voldemort. That's it we were done. Amazing story line amazing movies and books why did we need a bloody add-on for no fucking reason.
Well its not even a decent book even if you don't compare it with HP series...
no it's just bad
@@Chandrashekhar_Satapathy with every success is a spin off, some do better than others.
"He [Harry] marries Ginny. They live happily ever after. There is literally no way to move forward from this point."
-A Very Potter Sequel, which came out 6 years before Cursed Child did.
What's a very Potter sequel
@@bongosmcdongos4190 2 months late, but it's a pretty good Harry Potter musical by Starkid. A Very Potter Sequel is the sequel to A Very Potter Musical.
@@bongosmcdongos4190 theres also A Very Potter Senior Year, which all of the characters are reading from the script while acting, due to limitations
@@bongosmcdongos4190
I highly recommend those musicals, I know it SOUNDS ridiculous but they’re actually fantastic!!
*i understood that reference*
It's been my fan theory for ages that this is actually a terribly written story by Rita Skeeter
Ofc it is. Only rita skeeter can write such sh!t
@@anonymousperson1462 too true.
@@anonymousperson1462 Nah, Rowling can do it too. Look at her tweet, that does not look like good writing.
THEORY: J.K Rowling wrote herself into the universe as Rita Skeeter.
@@veeasaurus that's not a theory, that's the truth
the thing im most annoyed about is how Cedric, a HUFFLEPUFF who was always known to be kind hearted and loyal, would turn into a *death eater* just because he lost a tournament? i mean its fine if they decided to change the 'hufflepuff never had a dark wizard' law, but still, it didn't really add to the story.
I know, especially considering after Harry saved him in the maze he was telling Harry to take it, not him.
didnt he die
@dubusari he died in the 4th book, but Albus and Scorpius messed with time or something and he came back to life. Then he became a Death Eater just because he lost the Tournament. Hope that makes sense :)
@@sophias5224 Wait I didnt hear any mention of cedric being a death eater in the video, and I've just started to dive into this franchise so I'm sorry I dont know much.
@@sophias5224 The most wrong thing is, the time Turner can only turn back for 5 hour or less depending on the current time and the fact that they literally WENT to the past and saved cedric and shit completely messes with the whole explanation about the time Turner and hufflepuff's reputation and traits.
The Cursed Child is a fine example of "quit while you're ahead"
As a new author I shall learn from this!! Lol
@@ladyofnoxus6733 try to avoid prequels. It almost never fits properly.
I mean, is anything not? The hobbit, the last Jedi, Sherlock, TBBT...
@@callummcdougall3741 look into Willy the Wizard and it's art and story. You'll see it. Plus the whole "Harry Potter is the chosen one" is straight out of Troll the movie.
@@callummcdougall3741 And most importantly, Shrek.
I feel like J.K Rowling just found two bald dudes who had never heard of Harry Potter and asked them to write a Harry Potter book
Lmao
And the guys watched the movies before writing the book
@@chinuaalibatya7345 even i can write a better fanfiction by only watching rhe films
@@chinuaalibatya7345 please give credit to the movies
They could have just put David Yates up to the job again
The whole book is cursed, not just the child.
Yep
Then it should be called Harry Potter and the cursed book
JK is just not a scriptwriter.
The Senate jk barely wrote any of it
Absolutely
My opinion on went wrong in Harry Potter and the Cursed Child:
Everything.
no
@@hyoroemonmeto6874 Yes, it is. Also so why are you here just to piss off people who hate this book and force your opinion to them? If you have different opinion don't watch this video, that's all.
If you hate dogs then don't come to a dog video's comment section just to raplay "this dog is a shit' to someone who like dogs.
Scorpius Malfoy: i'm a joke for you?
I agree with some things about the book that are pretty wrong but I also like some things about the book.
Hyoroemon Meto yes
I don't consider the Cursed Child part of the Harry Potter series either, it's completely terrible.
vvyni same
omg your pfp is so cute i love draco (as you can tell)
vvyni aww thx unless you're a mud blood 💚
no way I'm pureblood
it should DIE!!! LET IT DIE LET IT DIE! LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE! my best friend betrayed me by getting the "book" i told her to burn it. she hasnt yet UGHHH
In a nutshell: It's badly written fan-fic.
I dont want to even consider this as a fan-fic
Trashfic
My first ever harry potter fanfic I wrote was better and I could barely type back then. I wrote about Malfoy getting a bowl of oatmeal upturned over his head and someone got a picture of it.
@@winterrain1947 Pleaseee I need to read this
@@samanthalau1592 I wish I still had it so you could read it. But, you're not really missing anything. It was written on a really low writing level. Like, "Malfoy saw a big bowl. It was blue. It had oatmeal in it. It was on a table. The table was brown."
Maybe someday I will rewrite it with my now much higher reading comprehension level, and put it on a fanfiction site.
Imagine naming your kid 'Scorpius' and they don't turn out to be a bad guy.
LOL!! Imagine being named Albus Severus Potter and not be treated like royalty at school.
@This Guy Johnathanous... Thanous... Thanos...
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
haha..all I can think of when I hear the name Scorpius is that leather wearing gimp nemesis from Farscape (who was actually pretty cool).
I've literally never met a younger person called Adolf. Lots of old people (born up to '45), but after that, the name was pretty much eradicated. You could call it an unspoken law that the name is simply illegal.
Over the last 7 years, there were a confirmed 130 newborns in Germany named Adolf. That's about 19 per year, and practically nothing. And I suppose that most of these parents are into really weird political scenes. This name has a really bad stigma, and shouldn'T be allowed. But well, there are also parents that call their kids Steißbein or Aldi.
"I am Voldemort's daughter"
In that moment, I recalled Rowling saying Voldemort could not have children and from then on didn't really believe much of what she has said in Twitter
Wasn't this written by someone else though
Ben it was co-written between Rowling and two others, but primarily, it was mainly Rowling
@@katelyn_7509 No, it was ghostwritten by the two guys. Rowling didn't do shit
Reese's Cup ohhhhhh well that makes sense lol
Pretty sure Voldemort is incapable of having children.... Y'know... Because of his CHARACTER ORIGINS! Cursed Child is a very awesome time travel book but a terrible HP book.
I can't believe J.K Rowling allowed this book to go on, it's just an awful way to end a great book series.
My problems:
a) Harry is described so egoistic, arrogant, and a boastful hero
b) There is no bonding between the characters
c) Hermoine is so not like herself
d) The weird moments just not gr8
e) Cedric; a death eater....like really...gosh
f)
I refuse to believe Voldemort had a child
g) The writers didn't even read the previous books...how awful !!
h) We are shown nothing abt hogwarts
The play was awful
I liked the play but the story was.... Questionable
@@dinodude367isyes5 Well, yeah the play sequence made me up a bit. But let's be real, from Emma Watson to....??, Rupert Grint to...??, and Daniel Radcliffe to...?? No matter how good this play was, it can never match an unedited part of any of the previous 8 films.
Well, in the books Harry is arrogant as well, so it doesn't bother me that much. Harry isn't the real hero in books. Most of the times he's just lucky or winning because he has knowledgeable friends, but alone? He's nothing.
@@Raattchen Well, he was a teen that time and no one expected him to be a hero, and he made friends that would help him on the quest of defeating Voldemort. Plus, he was never arrogant and especially never told anyone that he wished thou wouldn't have existed. He was brave and never showed off.
@@magicalambientmusic1621 If there is anyone that would cast a love potion on the most uhmm... _beautiful_ person on land, its probably the second most uhmm... _beautiful_ person on earth. Well, sounds like a plausible answer, give yer that. And if u didnt get it, I was being sarcastic about the supposed beauty of YouKnowWho and Bellatrix Lestrange.
Broke: Plan to save Diggory
Woke: Plan to save Hedwig
R.I.P hedwig T - T
I'm still annoyed about the deaths of Hedwig, Sirius and Fred. They offered nothing but shock factor. I suppose Sirius' death could be explained as character development for Harry, but like... Come on, let him have a father figure other than Hagrid. He isn't Spiderman
@@hazeltree7738 There's some value in having a villain or system of villains who don't go down without due sacrifice, it makes them more threatening, but I don't like it when the pets die
@@hazeltree7738 Rowling didn't say killing the poor owl was a way to show Harry was now an adult and his childhood is dead? It's stupid and mean
@@hazeltree7738 seriously! Lupin and Tonks too! Literally nothing but shock value because despite Lupin’s importance we don’t even see him die, it’s just mentioned Dolohov killed him but it’s Harry’s thoughts and how could Harry know that when he was busy watching Fred die? And we don’t even see who killed him it’s just an explosion. Though I can say, it would’ve cheapened the story if there weren’t losses that heavy. Fred dying just as he made up with Percy was just…OMFG 🥲 lol so I get it but it just sucks that we don’t at least get a death scene for Lupin and we don’t see who killed Fred.
The very notion of Voldemort having a child in case he died goes against his entire character and motivation towards everything he's ever done. No matter how you spin it, Voldemort doesn't have back-up plans in case he dies because he believes he can _never_ die. The Horcruxes were to ensure he never truly died, that was it. Even when he discovered Harry was hunting the Horcruxes, he kept telling himself that Harry would never find and destroy all of them, and his first thought wouldn't be _"I better impregnate Bellatrix so my child could keep my memory alive and possibly go back in time to prevent my possible death"_ because HE WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THE NOTION THAT HE _MIGHT_ DIE
Ex👏act👏ly👏
Didn't he supposedly father her to prove to the other death eaters that he was still fully human or something? (a stupid reason in any case)
There's also the thing that he himself being alive is what mattered to him. The idea that he'd care about someone else keeping his memory alive is vomitous.
The idea of Voldemort having offspring is as ridiculous as the idea of Palpatine having offspring.
@@valcade As much as I hated the Palps thing, Voldy having a child is far worse.
i just wish it will end with hermione putting the newspaper down and saying to Harry and Ron "what a stupid story from Rita Skeeter"
YESSS
Agreed
This is a really good idea haha
Everyone would like that
That would honestly make it all worth it because then you can go back knowing it was parody.
the only thing in the Cursed Child that i’m okay with it is Scorpius and Albus are bffs
Yup
Lovers*
@@thamys2106 NO
@@superoriginalhandle YES
@@thamys2106 I'm not surprised that someone like you commented this😂
“The scar had not pained Harry for nineteen years. All was well.”
*Well ROWLING, that was a FUCKING LIE.*
Rowling didn't write The Cursed Child.
@@avpaavcomics1299 she approved soo she has 50% of the guilt
@@Eric-py8yy that’s because unlike that overweight loser George RR Martin, JK Rowling finds HP fan fiction charming and endearing. She enjoys it…
How was it a lie? It hadn’t pained him for 19 years
It's the "All was well" part. Rowling literally rewrote the final lines so it was very clear that Voldemort would NEVER come back. And then,we got this...
I don't know but the whole thing feels like a rushed fanfic.
100 percent
I cant believe JK Rowling agreed to this
Not even good fanfiction. I've read some pretty good Harry Potter Fanfiction and this wasn't it.
I’ve read better fanfics on effing pokemon. It’s sad, honestly
I've heard it's better on stage.
I like the idea of Harry’s kid being best friends with draco’s kid but the plot sucked just saying 🧍♂️
ikr that actually has some potential to be something.
I also liked how Albus became a slytherin.
@@H_WLL Yeah, that was pretty cool.
@Noah Avshalom in my story, Albus is secretly living up to his dad, but only Rose, Scorpius, (and a new character of my own invention) Lucas Flint know he keeps getting into high jinx and mysteries to solve, unbeknownst to anyone, he’s teased by the school for being the ‘Slytherin Squib’ in his first and second year, because he has James Sirius’s old wand, and and in third and fourth for being a Potter in Slytherin, and is now named the ‘Cursed Child’ by the entirety of the school, except his friends and family.
@@H_WLL I didn’t like it cause it didn’t make any sense. His whole family was in Gryffindor. And before you say “Sirius was a Gryffindor and his family was in Slytherin”, his family was evil, and Sirius was not.
Written before watching:
Although flawed, I enjoy the book, HOWEVER I refuse to believe that Cedric, a HUFFLEPUFF would become a death eater because he was humiliated. No.
I think the idea of a Hufflepuff death eater is interesting, because there's just no reason all of them should be slytherin. Cedric personally though, I agree it just doesn't fit and feels like it's out of left field.
@@lemortedbrian6070 I just find it hard to believe that all of them are from one house, I'm not saying that most of them aren't from Slytherin.
To talk books, JKR signed onto the Cursed Child where Digory a hufflepuff helped VoldyTort pretty handidly, and Regulus and Snape are heros while Pettigrew is a Gryffindor. Not to mention the younger Greengrass I believe helped the Hogwarts resistance.
The lore of Slytherin himself I know less about, but I vauegly recall he made these choices during the persecution of wizards.
I'm Not saying he was right, or that all Slytherins are misunderstood. I simply don't think that all of them are the same.
he WHAT?
@@lemortedbrian6070 What people seem to forget about the Death Eaters is that they are not simply supporters of Voldemort. The Death Eaters form a secret society founded by Voldemort. So on one hand you need to have the mentioned attributes to qualify for the job AND people also forget that you cannot simply declare yourself a Death Eater. You have to be accepted into their ranks by Voldemort.
Then again Wormtail is a non-Slytherin Death Eater.
Anyways we will never find out if Cedric would turn to the evil side since Time Turners work according to the Novikov self-consistency principle and the premise of The Cursed Child is rubbish to begin with. But hey. Good effort from the writers. Keep up the work... at least that's what I read into JKR notion about the piece.
Me ToO
I got to see this monstrosity on the stage, and let me tell you, if it weren't for the writing this would have been the best play I've ever seen. The costuming, the choreo, and the set were all so well made I almost forgot the writing sucked. When they revealed all of Delphi's writing, I actually gasped since it covered the walls and floors of the entire theatre. The train scene was so good. They used revolving floors and lots of stairs throughout the play and it was so beautifully made. The costumes were amazing as well. I cannot rave about the play enough. I just wish the writing didn't destroy the whole thing.
completely agree!
That writing scene would go so hard, I'm imagining how cool and creepy that would look.
I don't know why Cedric had to be a big part of this story.
He's dead. Let him rest. Also, he wasn't a super important character, so, why him?
he wasnt even in the previous books.
I would have better understand trying to save Sirius (Who was almost Harry's father), Dumbledore (Who could have lived if it wasn't for the curse on the ring), Fred (Who had no real reason to die), Snape (Even though I think he would have preferred to simply die as he did) or even Lupin and Nimphadora, But Cedric? It's like...Why? Not even the fans complained about it and it didn't even felt as "too much" (Unlike the rest of the characters I mentioned). So again...Why?
Eduardo F Saving Fred would have made the most sense as it wouldn’t affect the timeline as much and that is his uncle after all🤷🏻♀️
Why couldn’t they just bring back Lupin and have a whole book about of him making wity quotes
@@gamingguycarson1799 I'd buy that
Things I'm okay with. Albus being in Slytherin....thats it.
And everything to do with Scorpius. He's an adorkable sweetheart. That's IT.
and Scorpius being a cookie
Well, I'm not... One thing that most people don't understand, what make someone a Slytherin is not wether the person evil, cunning, self-preservation or any other personalities traits, what make a Slytherin is when that person is convince that magic is only for people born with magical blood (pure blood).. that's why Salazar Slytherin create Slytherin house... So how can Albus, whom grown with Hermione as an aunt think like that...
@@scorpiongurlz89 If you are a muggle born, you aint going in Slytherin, however thats because Salazar banned it.
But Slytherins can have somewhat differing views on blood purity and magic.
@@lil_weasel219 Why would a muggle born think magic is only for a pure blood?
And if you talking about Snape and Slughorn. Snape give an exception for Lily cause he's in love with her, he's still insulted other muggle born and he started changing after Lily died. We didn't know anything about Slughorn in his student year so I can't say anything about that, but even when he told Harry that he's not prejudiced toward muggle born, even Harry think that Slughorn, and I quote "much too surprised that a Muggle-born should make a good witch."
I refuse to believe Harry Potter, who spent the first 11 years of his life loveless and in a literal cupboard, would turn around and be a horrible father to his son. And I refuse to believe that Ginny Weasely, daughter of two parents who always cared for her and loved her and did their best, would let this happen.
It's pretty realistic, to be honest. Harry doesn't really understand what it means to be a good parent, because he didn't have those in his life. Also, people who had experienced pain have a penchant for spreading it further. Of course, Harry would put every bit of effort into being as good a father as can be, but I can imagine him just... Snapping at some point. And regretting it later.
@@cheekibreeki904 true. a lot of abusive parents were victims of child abuse themselves
@@Underworlder5 it's true in a general sense, I believe: people who cause pain to others, more often than not, do so because they themselves are in pain.
@@cheekibreeki904 Aside from the Weasleys
@@cheekibreeki904 yup, but we see in the order of the phoenix that ginny is actually one of the only people that communicates or stops his temper tantrums, so why would she let him do this-
I'll just pretend that the last book is Harry Potter and the deathly hallows
Cuz it is 😉
It really is, but fans were desperate for a new book, so Rowling made a pile of shit that diehards will eat up. True fans hate her for this, but she does not care. She wants money. So she panders to minorities too.
Kristers Feldmanis jk Rowling didn’t write the cursed child though
@@floraknight8966 She participated in the writing process.
And not "Fantastic Beasts: The Cash Cow" or "The Play Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken".
His scar hurts... But it hurt because he had a part of voldemort in him.
That part was REMOVED. By the elder wand.
So this just ignores all canon.
Do we really need to talk about canon with this considering Hermione changed her skin color in between canon and this, apparently?
The book neve mentioned her skin color? Besides JK and Emma approved....
I mean. To be fair, i don't really care what skin color a person it as long as they have skill to pull off whatever they are doing. It's just bugging me because of continuity problems. And yes, in the book covers she IS depicted she is shown with white skin. I mean, it's not much of a problem as much as it is a small nit pick. Really. The story itself is not that great (in my opinion).
Arcaan P Story wise it isn’t continuity problematic. The actors are merely visuals for the story. What is written down is the canon. Although I have trouble actually considering Cursed Child to be canon. Consider the actors being drastically different looking as something of a real life art style change. Look at Cortana throughout the Halo series as an example; it’s always her, but her look changes dramatically and once you add in the Anniversary versions of games you can’t even use the excuse she’s changing her appearance; she merely looks different based on the artists that time around.
Spring Day Is Not Today I dunno how long it has been since you read the books but she is very often described as a pale girl with auburn hair. And yes, JK and Emma approved...because what the hell else were they supposed to do? They'd get lynched on social media if they didn't approve. Mind you, maybe they really didn't mind but regardless of if it bothered them or not, in our modern society they just had to say that they approved, theres no other real choice if you wanna keep your career.
I used to think people only hated the Cursed Child because a black woman was cast to play Hermione.
But then I read Harry Potter and realised this is pretty much just a rushed fanfiction
Honestly, The thing that actually pissed most people off is JK Rowling decided to go ahead and talk about making the Cursed Child cannon, meaning that this fanfic of a play is possibly now part of the full HP story.
@@luc751 Its a *stage play*. Next time Hermione could be a dude. The actors change constantly. You're shooting for stars and hitting the moon, you fucking dingus.
@@luc751 it was never said that hermione is white
@@Marv-th8qc If I recall correctly, it was flat out stated in chapter 21 of Prisoner of Azkaban. I also recall her clearly drawing Hermione to have pale skin.
SUPERMATT5546 it was never shown like at all that she was black.
the only things i liked from the cursed child:
•albus being a slytherin
•albus and scorpius being best friends
that has so much potential but goddamn did they fail at it
yes, i agree with you😂
The whole book had potential to be great
In an early draft, there book was going to shift perspective between two characters (similar to A Song of Ice and Fire aka game of thrones). The first perspective character being Albus who IS sorted into Griffy house (and is in his 3rd year) - and the second character was a first year who is sorted into Slytherin and is resentful due to the stigma. Scorpius (again, 3rd year) is of course Slytherin and befriends the 2nd perspective character and much of the book jumped between Albus, Rose and a third new character, and the 2nd perspective character and Scorpius - with the two groups not even crossing paths in the first book but their actions affect each other.
There was going to be some moment where the 2nd perspective character has an epiphany that being sorted into Slythrin brought out the best in him because it made him work harder and improve himself, whereas being sorted into one of the other houses would have caused him to become complacent.
I assume at a certain point, the 2nd perspective character becomes the main character after the others graduate - and my theory is he become the Slytherin prefect - or maybe he himself takes on a pouty 1st year slytherin
Harry: has a map of the school and an invisibility cloak
Also Harry: gives his kid a old blanket. Like really old
About thirty seven
$1.02
Mmhmm
@Really Bitch Rowling said that Harry's older son, James, stole the map from Harry's desk.
He was given so many incredibly helpful and valuable things, and he gives his son something that would only mean something nostalgic to himself? Yeah, right.
The worst sin of the story...the confirmation that someone actually had sex with Voldemorte X.x;;
Are you sure he didn't just wave his wand over some follower and … oh, nevermind.
oh god that's truth
Margi Fisher it's bellatrix. Of course she would have sex with Voldemort. She practically orgasmed every time she saw him 😂😂
exactly hahahaha
Yeah I knew she was the mother...but still...blech lol
The book that must not be named.
When I read it, it scares me more then Voldy. :´D
"The book that must not be -named- read"
We need her pen and make Rowling write “One must never make this cannon”
It's worse than Voldemort, Umbridge, and Pettigrew all rolled into one.
_"Albus expects to hear cheers, but here's booze instead!"_
Everything is more entertaining with automatic subtitles, even Harry Potter videos! 😆
Lool
🍻 And there was much rejoycing!🍻
Your monotone unimpressed tone of voice made the review pretty darn hillarious for me, good job.
I also noticed that at the end of Deathly Hallows, Rowling said "His scar never bothered him again"... but in Cursed Child...
Maybe he was into it.
to be fair, he said that in what would be albus's first year, his scar starts hurting years after that.
She said his scar hadn't pained him in nineteen years. She actually didn't say anything about the future. It's still plenty consistent, if a bit dumb.
- Lewis
Black Hermione is not cannon. It is the magic of theatre that means that Hermione is black (in theatre, actors can play characters intended to be a different sex/race/age to themselves). Hermione is never described as black in the books (when other characters like Kingsley and Dean Thomas are) and in a concept picture drawn by JK Rowling herself, Hermione is white, not black. I have no idea why people suddenly think that because an actress playing Hermione is black, that means that the actual character is canonically black. Heck, JK herself hasn't said black Hermione is cannon, only said that people can see what they want her to be.
Roger Melly THE CURSED CHILD IS NOT WRITTEN BY JKR!!!!!!!!!!
Also, Harry potter books are escapist. It's fun to imagine yourself going to Hogwarts and experiencing adventures alongside the gang. The Cursed Child is anything but escapist.
Weird, we have the same last name that I rarely see. Are you from Holland?
thats It! I always thought something off was ab it and i realised that i would never want ti even be a background in the world this book was built in. It doesnt even feel like its the same universe as the originals istg
@@EthanMeatan to be fair, shouldn't book seven also make you feel that way
@@bongosmcdongos4190 ig
@@bongosmcdongos4190 no not really
I will never ever consider Cursed Child as the said 8th story.
Ok no one cares
@@crolynx4033 i care
@@zikangplayz4302 Ok nerd
@@crolynx4033 ok kid
@@zikangplayz4302 You have noob in your name. Nothing you say matters.
It's really disappointing that this ended up so bad, because I legitimately love the idea of Albus (still an Unfortunate name...) getting sorted into Slytherin and proving that it really doesn't matter what House you're in, and it would've been cool to see focus on Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw as well.
But we got this.
So.
:/
TealTreeKangaroo Yeah Albus being a good and funny teen close to his father and very clever! ... But no! We got a DarkSaSukE teen that hates everyone and everything and..sucks at magic! I would rather follow the story of his older brother James!
The James potter book series is so much better than the cursed child
Plus it seems that a lot of the cursed child story took inspiration from the James Potter series too (which was 'approved' by jk herself)
@@lam9090 are you kidding? How boring would it be with James. 'Look at me im a perfect kid who does magic okay, i got sorted into gryffindor and i have loads of friends and don't want to save anyone' how fucking boring that would be. Albus was portrayed as a moody teenager with dad issues SO he could try and save cedric. The book and play are so interesting (if you havent watched the play you should cuz it changed my mind over the book 100%) why does albush have to be perfect to be good? Its way more gripping that he argues with his dad which leads to trying to save cedric, and then his dad, their future. I honestly dont see your problwm lmao... its a good plot
@@heatherroberts8002 my problem was it has too many plot holes and besides Albus isnt much of a good character and didnt resonate remotely as much as harry from PS
@@heatherroberts8002 I can imagine that the production is as amazing as everyone claims.. I even like the fact that albus panics because of all the pressure to be like his dad. That must be really hard. But that's about every positive aspect I see in that story. It's not even plot holes, it's so many things perfectly contradicting how the world works in the previous books and movies.
Voldemort would not have a kid. He was all about seizing all the power for himself. He would never knowingly create a potential rival. Also the love potion theory is stupid. I give Voldemort more credit than to be tricked by Bellitrix. Cedric would never turn evil and Harry wold never tell his son he wised he didn't have a son. This whole play is utter nonsense. Did Rowling even read the books?
Jason Barber Voldemort would never fall for the same trick that his father did
Voldemort wouldn't have spawned a kid _eight years_ after his final death. Especially considering Astoria (That's Draco's wife, right?) would've been, what, 15? 16? when he died.
Edit, I haven't dared to poison my mind with this story, so I have no idea what I'm talking about in terms of the mother. But having it be Bellatrix is even worse, because she died just as definitively as her master.
Dadycoool They never confirm it outright, but it's heavily implied that it was with Bellatrix
@@bluesbest1 Delphi was born on the same year Voldemort died.
There is one glaring plot-hole. Bellatrix was seen quite a bit on Harry's last year. Did it look like she was pregnant? No. Snape would have known something too if that was the case.
@@atkin207 Well, I was referring to the rumors about Voldemort being Scorpius' father, but, again, I've never poisoned my mind with "The eighth book". My original comment was picking at a nit in regards to something I know nothing about.
Don’t forget, at the end of the deathly hallows book, it said, “The scar had not pained Harry for nineteen years. All was well.”
@NoMemesIn#General No it wasn’t. It only said that it hadn’t pained him for 19 years. Which is true. It didn’t say “Harry’s scar never pained him for the rest of his life”
Isn't it weird how JK specifically wrote nineteen? Like that just bothers me. Why not "the rest of his life" why nineteen???? *I would probably die before I get this answered.*
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 She saw a cash grab play in her future probably
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 because it was 19 years later
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 ka
Big Potterhead here (read/write fanfiction etc.). I'd AVOIDED The Cursed Child specifically to avoid tarnishing in any way my appreciation for the originals. And I'm glad I didn't read/watch it now. Hearing your summary and analysis make me think that, a few years earlier, this would have killed my continuing fascination with the series.
Your bit at the end analysing what a "Proper Harry Potter story" consists of is spot on. I've read far too many fan-mad stories which, while executed at the low-level well enough, they focus on the Harry Potter stuff and don't build their own mysteries into the world. Meanwhile there's a 1+ million word-count fanfiction (Prince of the Dark Kingdom), which has endless mystery and could quite honestly have been made into its own series outside of Harry Potter.
book 3: The time turner cant change the past because it already happened!
cursed child: NO! If u visit the past for 5 minutes then the whole world changes!
Well the cursed child should not be considered canon. I would like to see it live though, believe it could be an entertaining play.
Finn Pom london spitfire!
London Spitfire. Love it. You go Finn Pom.
And most importantly they hand them like candies. But you know, who needs a functioning Ministry of Magic which checks these weapons where you have a plot which allows everything? Like continuous retcons, gargantuan plot holes and a purposeless need for action in the Potterverse?
*J.K. Rowling doesn't. And she wants you to not have the same need.*
I swear theyre like different time turners or smth i agree
Rose´s character was completelly wrong. There is no way a child of Hermione and Ron would be so mean and clasist as to ignore and be rude to her own COUSIN that way. The only time the Weasleys did something similar was to Percy, but they were at the beguinning of a war and things were a bit tense. Rose declared war against James because he was sorted to Slythering. Really? After the last book? After reading about the redemption of Snape, Regulus, Slughorn and Malfoy? We still must believe Slythering house is all evil and dark? Shame on you "writers"
You are so right. The only thing I can think about it is that the "writers" thought that, just like Ron, Rose would hate so much a Malfoy, and that just like Hermione, Rose would hate a bad student-emo kid like Albus.
It doesn't make aaaany sense anyways, for me this piece of shit isn't canon.
This! This! This!
While Harry not be a great Dad at times bugged me I also understand that it happens, as an abused child who is now and adult and parent I understand that sometimes stupid things are said in frustration and anger no matter how hard you try to be a better parent/person.
What really got me was how horrible Rose Weasley was, I don't like Ron very much and I don't think he would have changed much in terms of disliking Malfoys or Slytherins but I am certain that Hermione would never ever ever stand for the way their daughter was behaving, she was a 100% bitch for no reason whatsoever
Nesseire I hated rose while reading the book
Yeah there's absolutely no way that someone could be completely different from their parents at all...
@@Bourikii2992different from them, yes, but with the kind of morals and education those two have, I doubt very much that Ron and Hermione would approve of that behaviour from one of their kids, specially with their own blood. And for something so stupid as being in another house.
comparing this cursed story to fanfiction is an insult to fanfiction
i like that dumby is like 167 when he dies, but apparently madam hooch being alive still is pushing it
Umm isn't madam Hooch "YOUNG"
She was like 30 or so in Harry Potter era so she would be in her 50s in cursed child era
Don't get me wrong I HATE cursed child but this can't be said
@@sharfer374 yeah ik. that’s why i left my comment, cos i agree with you and disagree with austin
Canonically, 116. Not that long really.
@@sparksfly6149 i think that’s the new canon. i mean the last time i checked dumbledore’s age was a long time ago, but rowling has probably changed it like she has so many other things not expressly stated in the text
by Dumby, do you mean dumbledore?
I suspected that Dumbledore extended his life with the elixer of life thanks to Nicholas Flemel.
The things I like about Harry Potter and the Cursed Child:
Scorpius.
Same he's the whole reason I continued reading the book.
I'm gonna be a bit more generous and say Slytherin Albus could've been fun (the problem with skipping year one is that he now cannot get over that plot point in a timely manner without it being dropped entirely), the apocalypse timeline was cool as a bit of what-if conjecture that needed a better cause (in a non-canon work that didn't have to follow the time turner rules, I'd say that should've been the entire middle, maybe with Albus slowly disappearing or something so that we can pretend Scorpius isn't the only good character) and... that's it. I don't have a third thing.
@@crocuslament9680 I like how you worded that I respect it
I heard there’s a Draco redemption (I refuse to read the goddamn book) and if I like anything, it would be that
Ah, yes, the negotiator
I *refuse* to believe _Voldemort_ had a _child_
Agreed. I always figured he was too psychopathic for that sort of stuff.
With Bellatrix of all people. Like Uncle Fester and Morticia. Ugh.
The ‘Tom riddles daughter’ fanfiction would disagree
well i refused to believe that dumbledore likes cock but it is what it is
johny guitar Because you’re a homophobe.
Wasnt Cedrics whole point that he was too good to be true and Harry didn’t trust him because of it but he was actually just a really good person? And Voldemort has a SON?
yeah, ima pretend that this never happended
Daughter
He had a daughter... with Bellatrix... who was married... and then died. Wtf?
@@zrc1514 whilehe was 14, I refuse to think that people actual came up with tthis
@@zrc1514 wait he was 15 but still
"Madame Hooch is still alive apparently" absolutely killed me
Quidditch keeps you fit!
I can't even express how wrong the whole 'i wish you weren't my son' thing was. Harry's character would never say that having suffered through an awful childhood where all he wanted was a family of his own.
Yeah I wish I never read the cursed child i try to forget there’s no way Rowling wrote this !
Then I´m glad I never did.
I know I wanted to bash my head into a wall at that part
Modern children these days...
absolute agreed. that's what i thought
If they _must_ use the Deus Ex Machina of the time turner as a plot device, they should have:
a.) Chosen a much better thing to do than save Cedric Diggory. Examples I can think of off of the top of my head are:
1.) Kill Peter Pettigrew before he has the chance to betray the Potters. I can't actually think of a better one than that.
2.) Prevent Bellatrix Lestrange from killing Sirius Black. If you want something less likely to fuck up the timeline.
3.) Prevent Albus Dumbledore from being cursed by the ring horcrux.
4.) A mixture of options 2 and 3.
b.) Make changes to the timeline done by these broken time turners permanent. Fucking with the timeline should have consequences that can't be undone simply by more fucking with the timeline.
Oh God sweet yes!!! Wish I could give you more likes. If the story was more like that and at the end a permanent change done was something as simple as Sirius coming back from the dead but someone else dying instead, I would have been like: Well, this is pure fan service, but I think I'm okay with that.
I love you and I hope you write some excellent fanfiction based on your ideas.
Yessssss those
Well about the whole ring horcrux. I would say it either changes nothing (because maybe dumbledore still goes to the cave with Harry and still sacrifices himself) or it would possible just postpone the battle of hogwarts until after dumbledore dies which could have minor consequences (i think).
Or prevent Voldy's mom from giving love potion to Tom Sr. That'll end all of these.
When did Harry become an unsupportive father?
Welcome to the media of the modern world.
Welcome to the Rowling world.
Watch back Harry Potter movie. He is such an asshole towards elders..
Honestly, for a guy with dead parents and abusive relatives, you’d think that he’d try his best to be a great parent for his son.
@@parkchimmin7913 Especially since he had good role models as a teen. Lupin and Sirius being his most prominent father figures, and the Weasleys treating him like one of their own. But i guess after hearing your kid say ' i wish you weren't my dad' and 'you should stop trying' over and over you'd let things like that slip.
Ok, I completely agree with this video
The cursed child has an incredibly poor story, but I saw it on stage 3 years ago and it is incredible - the spells, everything. If you ignore the story while watching it, you may actually really enjoy it
okay, i'm about to go on a rant here my friends. Harry went through mental- and probably physical- abuse in the sixteen (give or take a little bit) years that he lived with the Dursleys. for the first ten years, he was unloved (until he became an honorary Weasley and made friends at Hogwarts), so he knew the feeling of not being appreciated by family. now, throughout the first seven books (the only relevant books in the Potterverse, in my opinion), Harry has proven himself to be someone that loved his friends and "family" (the Weasleys, of course) fiercely. it seems he would do absolutely *ANYTHING* for them and would never turn his back on them. now suddenly, he has a son, and he just... doesn't love him? he pushes Albus away, just as the Dursleys had done to him. to me, Harry was not someone who would hate his son for
1. being a Slytherin (he was almost put in Slytherin himself and even says in the epilogue of DH2 and the DH book that he didn't care what house Albus was in!!)
2. being friends with Scorpius, who if the CC Harry would get to know, was nothing like Draco
the entire script of CC had me *CRINGING* at every scene that involved Harry or mentioned him. it ruined the character of Harry Potter. it turned him into this fame-obsessive (which in the first 7 books, he was very obviously uncomfortable with), abusive, unloving person that he doesn't seem to be.
*sorry for this crazy rant but ughhhhhh i hate Cursed Child so muchhhhhh*
(edit: spelling)
"Sometimes I wish you weren't my son!"
Yeah, no, this is not Harry Potter. I could maybe see him saying this in the heat of the moment (emphasis on maybe, since he does have a temper, but something that harsh is still out of character), but you mean to tell me he lets it sit there?? He doesn't immediately regret it and try to make it up to his son?? If you want us to believe that these characters would react in a way entirely different from their established personalities, you need to do the heavy lifting and show us what made them change, what experiences they've had that caused their entire outlook to do a 180.
@@jequirity1 PERIODT
@@jequirity1 but i dont even think he would say that in the heat of the moment. even with a temper, the Harry Potter i grew up with would never say that to his own child. after all, he was abused for the first eleven years of his life and i feel like he wouldn't want to make his own kids feel unloved. plus, we all know Ginny would NEVER let him say that.
Replying to a 2 month old comment, but I think the idea that one was abused doesnt mean that they won't abuse their children. Sure, they can be portrayed as good people, but it has been seen that abused are more likely to abuse, even if not on purpose. But yes, they didn't explain any of the development of Harry's charatcer and how he changed and developed from his 7 years to his eventual adulthood, which is hard to do in plays. This just seemed doomed from the start.
@@benjaminkim2216 yes, that is true BUT the rapid turn that Harry's character took in this play is insane. he went from hating his fame and feeling uncomfortable to absolutely loving it and taking advantage of it. so even if the abused are more likely to abuse, there are still other things that don't align with the original Harry Potter.
The name should be Harry Potter and the confused child
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I mean, the book is literally cursed, it shouldn't exist, it should buRn
The name should be Harry Potter and the confused audience
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It's so weird that in the Prisoner of Azkaban the time turner didn't actually change the timeline: there were already two versions of Harry and Hermione before they used the time turner, but the play writers decided to go full Back to the Future on this.
Also Voldemort would never have a child. So weird
he ain't paying child support that's for sure....
He was so self-centered, he would never have a child, it was all about him and him.
Ironic Dutch Moonshade IKR
Voldemort would’ve believed himself immortal due to the horcuxes, so why would he have a kid? Just doesn’t make sense
Voldemort would've never had sex to begin with, unless there was a promise of more power or more immortality after.
The problem is that time turners just go back a couple of hours and using it you can't actually Change anything because it already happened, you're just going through the motions like harry casting the patronus at the end of PoA "I know I could do it because I had already done it" there is a reason that nearly every fanfiction that has long term time travel uses unknown magical phenomenon or cosmic entities like death or fate etc. : Its more realistic
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I was say this! That's why I loved PoA!
Title: What Went Wrong With Harry Potter and the Cursed Child?
Me: Everything except Scorpius Malfoy
And the trolley lady. It's the one idea I thought was kinda interesting
Scorpius is really awesome. He kinda reminds me of Ron.
Ok I’m your 666th like
Stop posting comments roasting this book
I’m getting tired of liking all of them
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Onyx Fire *STOP YOU’VE BROKEN THE LAW PAY THE FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE*
Onyx Fire no u
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In my opinion,Fantastic Beasts is more of a Harry Potter story than this and Harry wasn't even born yet during that time period.
KIT 3 not even harrys mom and dad weren't even born yet
Dumbledore is tho
@@JuanLopez-su5sm And J. K. Rowling actually wrote that, don't forget.
@@ShadowStrikerTheLoneWolf yea
@@ShadowStrikerTheLoneWolf I have a question where's you profile pic from cause if feel like I've seen it somewhere
The biggest gripe I have is that it makes no sense for either of the main characters to be in Slytherin. Albus isn't cunning or ambitious, and Scorpius just wants to make friends and keep his head down. It's clear that Albus is only put in Slytherin for the drama.
So what's a better solution? Put both of them in Hufflepuff. Not only is it more accurate to their characters, but the story can still have the "failing your family's/society's expectations" thing because Hufflepuff is one of the more irrelevant houses, so Albus is becoming a disappointment not by being in Slytherin, but by being in a house so devoid of excitement and drama that he's a disappointment anyways.
This was honestly just... Disappointing. It was like a really bad fanfiction, and as someone who reads a lot of fan fiction I can definitely say that.
Time travel? Check.
Voldemorts child? Check.
Stupid plot and bad writing? Check.
Come on guys, do better than that.
MC retcons that break the established rules and are literally impossible? Check.
The writing was fucking terrible. Like I couldn't see how Rowlong was even involved in it.
REALLY poorly done time travel that conflicts with how it was done previously in the story too . . .
I remember years ago, me and a friend laughed at the idea of Voldemort ever having a child. It was just such a stupid thought, and made no sense for the character. Then boom, cursed child happens.
@@PokeStatsStudios same! I would avoid any mention of Voldemort having a child because of how insanely stupid it was, and it just recently sunk in that cursed child was ABOUT voldemorts child. It just made absolutely no sense at all
the first red flag was literally the first scene, if it was canon it would have been a word-for-word copy of the deathly hallows epilogue
Exactly
Harry as a parent would be much more understandable if you flesh out him trying to be a good parent but maybe falling flat because he never had parents and the Dursleys were over the top abusive. Maybe giving his kids too much freedom and paying for his actions then would better. Also not understanding the sibling dynamic like Ginny would with her five brothers would flesh out her character and show she can make up got harry's shortcomings.
Rose is literally too perfect, hardly any flaws makes her unlikable. Hermione was a know it all, but lacked street smarts that Ron and Harry made up for, and visa versa.
Too true
Rose wasn't talked about mostly in the book but she did lack understanding, she was quick to judge people like she judged Scorpius.
@@revetaar2484 blame ron
Right? Harry in that book doesn't seem like harry at all, especially when he told albus how he (harry) wished he was never his son like harry would never say that to anyone, not after he spent half his life being unwanted by dursleys.
@@janhavishigwan1347 Exactly! That honestly just made me put the book down. It took me out of it completely. I wish they at least hade put more effort in their conflicts and worked up towards it more
The trolley witch was the point when I realized I was, in fact, reading bad harry potter fanfiction, and that honestly made the entire thing a whole lot more enjoyable.
Cursed Child: people applauded for harry, but just not as much as for cedric
The actual book: nobody clapped
But in the movies there was some clapping and some boo
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq yeah but we all know the books are superior and actually have all the facts.
@@Selenny Actually the movies are adapted better since it clears some inconsistencies from the books that Rowling fixed up a bit.
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq yeah but so many characters were missing, snapes story was barely touched (atleast not as much as it should've been) and so on
The slytherins were booing :/ I mean- *ObViOuslY* Although- I stan Draco so :>
How did anxious friendly little Scorpius end up in Slytherin? I love him, but his biggest ambitions were to have friends and not get bullied. And he radiated some major Hufflepuff energy during his friendship with Albus
Right they lead you to believe it's because of his father but then Harry's son also ends up in slytherin
I think all Malfoys have been Slytherin but you are right he feels like a mix of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw. Anyway I think it's a way of showing that ambition is not only about power
Anyways I really love that character 💙💙
He might have asked the hat to sort him in Slytherin, to make is father happy.
If they want to milk the Harry Potter cow more I think a well done animation true to the books would be way better.
Omg so trueee
True to the books? In current year? Not enough people in Hollywood care enough about loyalty, not even the author in this case.
YES.
Harry Potter: The Anime!
I would love a prequel.
man, i forgot so much of this story that i was starting to wonder "was it really that bad??" and then every time you said something that made me remember a part of it it just made me cringe because YES. IT REALLY WAS THAT BAD.
Why isn't this book called boruto Potter? Since all i'm getting from this book is "the son of this guy" and "do you remember this character from the past"...
I'm seriously getting that vibe too, Naruto already had Harry Potter vibes, this just seals it.
yeah, another thing is that both boruto and the cursed child are trash! amazing!
Considering how many similarities this has with Boruto, its shocking. Like, it legitimately creeped me out the first time.
I have to admit, this made me literally laugh out loud, because you are so right! 😂
No shitty parents, no drama. But I think that's a misconseption. Children are totally capable of screwing it up no matter how good their parents are. So I rather take the crowning moment of badass when the next generation is in major distress and our beloved hero(es) step in and wipe the floor with the enemies, because they are just that awesome.
I just don't get how come nobody involved when writing and making this play pointed out that the whole plot revolve around using the Time Turner to do something a Time Turner cannot do. The Time Turners don't change the past. That was the whole point of the few last chapters of Prisoner of Azkaban, everything that Harry and Hermione did while in the past was something that had already happened when they lived through it the first time. As you said, its a closed time loop. You can't change the past with a Time Turner because anything you do in the past with a Time Turner has already happened. If you could save Cedric with the Time Turner then he would already be saved in the present!
giantWario You're right. Patronus causality. It was the whole point of the third book. If it were otherwise, why wouldn't Riddle use one to acquire the hallows and vanquish Harry/Dumbledore? I consider the cursed child mediocre fanfiction.
giantWario actually you along with everyone else are absolutely and amazingly ignorantly wrong about that one fact and apparently didnt pay attention... remeber the scene where hermoine and harry are about to use the Time Turner...what did Dumbledore tell them before he left 🤔🤔🤔🤔... so yes you can change the past using a Time Turner... there was a reason why they were constantly avoiding everyone and making sure they werent seen and not messing with anything that they werent there too mess with
Richard Grace ...yes and that reason was that people who meet their past selves with the Time Turner end up killing themselves even if they know Time Turners are a thing. I guess you just missed that part even though that was the only reason why Harry stayed in the shadows. You also seems to have missed the entire epilogue where we can see that everytime they were saved the first time, it was by their future selves. They litterally woudn't have lived through the night if it wasn't a closed time loop, they coudn't have even gotten to the infirmary to use the Time Turner if their future selves hadn't already saved them!
giantWario my whole.point is that you can change the future using time turners depending on the decisions y pi u make I mean as you said yourself of they hadn't have stayed in the shadows then they wpilsnt have saved their future self ... if hairy hadn't got hit in the back of the head by a shell then they wouldnt have left hagrets house...
+Richard Grace In that same book, all the events that they change happened before they actually went back in time. It's hard to explain but if you are familiar with the plot, you know what I mean. By that established logic, it is actually impossible to change anything that's already happened, Cedric dying (or whatever else they changed) already happened so it breaks logic that they changed it.
The time turner was a pretty dumb idea to begin with but the logic they created in book 3 can just about cover any potential plotholes, TCC however means that they could have just used it at any point and changed the past. Oh no, James and Lily Potter died, let's go back in time a day, send entire order of the phoenix to Godric's Hollow and blow the ever living shit out of Voldemort, that's the logic they created in TCC.
Oh there's multiple timelines now?
Does that mean I can travel to a timeline where this book doesn't exist?
Virtually Mainstream let’s pray
In one of the timelines Hermione is married to Padma Patil. Lol
Melty AquaFox wait the fuck, did she actually???
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yesssss
I can relate with this so well. I also remember literally growing up with the Potter franchise. I felt the thrill of waiting for the next book to come out and wondering how the story will go. And I had the same thrill when I realized that a new book was out. It really really disappointed me when I read the book. I felt really sad.
...Ya know what would've made for a more interesting story?
If Albus were a squib, and the whole play were about the son of the legendary hero, and said legendary hero himself, coming to terms with the realization that he had to forge his own destiny because it was impossible for him to live up to his father's legacy. It kind of seems like that's what the first act was hinting at.
This is brilliant. I want to read it now.
It'd be better if Albus still managed to have a more contained mystery adventure still. Showing everyone that a squib can also achieve something in a world of wizardry instead of being given menial jobs like Filch or Harry's neighbor lady.
genius
And in the end he's gonna get some magic-related power maybe like outstanding resistance or being very convincing or sth else to save his friends or everyone from death and proving himself to be powerful in his own way...
Damn... now I really wanna read a Fanfiction like that!...
what went wrong: the CURSED CHILD is completely UNNECESSARY absolutely UNNECESSARY - Harry Potter’s story was done complete satisfactory wrapped up - there were SEVEN YRS and seven stories - done and dusted - that’s what went wrong
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is a blatant attempt to keep the Saga relevant, they should have stopped and move into some other thing.
I think all we really wanted (at least for me) was some new adventure. Not bringing Voldemort back in the worst way possible, but maybe just a fun story of their life in Hogwarts with some cool Easter eggs and good characters. I think most of us would've been cool with that, it wasn't at least for me the fact that they should've dropped it, it was the fact that they did a crap job of making it
I just really wanted to see how everyone was doing from the Epilogue, I didn't really care or need a new villain or some screwed up story. I'd have just liked to have seen everyone and how their lives turned out.
@@Eternaldarkness3166 SAME!
And it's kinda disappointing to learn that Ron Wesley quitted his job as an Auror to work in his brother's Joke Shop.
I've read better FanFiction. Literally.
Hickorydaisy I've written better fan- fiction than this.
Seriously!
Paige Arnol Same.
A Very Potter Musical trilogy did it better
after i finished The Cursed Child the day after it came out, i went and read My Immortal for the first time and I legitimately liked it more than cursed child.
One name: Liepert Norman
I'm surprised that McGonagall didn't retire the moment she found out that the Potter, Weasley and Granger family lines merged together and the kids were heading thier way to Hogwarts about 11 years after the first of the kids was born.
She gets an owl with a letter announcing the birth of James Sirius and she thinks: "... I feared this day would come..."
Jk Rowling is just ruining her masterpiece.
Like just look at her tweets...
Actually dont....
@Kim Yo Jong's Sandwich Yeah. That's why we know it's a masterpiece.
How do any of her tweets affect her books?
2 men wrote this story.
@@klaudiagrob so what
@@elektrik_exekutioner6822 oh boy, you don't know...
'The Secret Daughter of Voldemort' is where this completely lost me.
SPOILERS!!!!
Actually, that part makes sense. I mean, why wouldn't he have fathered a child? Bellatrix was all over him. The lack of backstory for the girl is very jarring, though. No, the girl is not the problem with the story. The biggest problem is the revisits of characters who we DID NOT need to revisit. Those are the "fan fic" parts. The "let's save Diggory" and "Voldemort's daughter" parts are actually quite good. They just really needed to cut out frigging Hagrid, Snape, Dumbledore and Cedric himself. They were so not needed for the story. Completely superfluous and stupid. We didn't need the bit where they tell Cedric that his father was proud of him (gag) or where they tell Snape how things went in the other timeline so he feels appreciated (bleurgh). No no no. And don't get me started on the last Hagrid scene which completely ruined the incredibly powerful part where Harry sees his parents die.
Ugh..
Because the love potion he was born under makes it impossible for him to experience real love, the only motivation he would've had to take time out of his EVIL PLAN OF EVIL to do the do with you know who?
or was that sarcasm, cause I can't distinguish internet sarcasm
When the Deathly Hallows Part 1 gets a re-release, they can add a screaming baby in the background in the Malfoy Manor scene and subsequently have Bellatrix saying "WILL YOU SHUT UP YOU STUPID BABY??!!!!!" At least it will make Delphi existing feasible XD.
Madelyn Taylor Makes sense that he'd be arrogant enough to want to create a mini Voldemort.
Imagine going back in time to find your aunt had changed race somewhere along in her aging process.
😂😂😂
Lol
that happened to me the other day
The whole time I was like...
Why...
Tf...
Is Hermione...
Black?
@@grandpaseal793 it literally completely ruins the "mudblood" racism that is shown throughout the books.
Hermione's struggles with being a "mudblood" allowed white children who identified with her to see a form of racism and learn how it hurts.
You make her black and now shes less identifiable to the white kids who could learn shit from it and she likely already would have had to deal with racism anyway so this is just an extra helping of it.
I know this is an old video but it is exactly what I needed to see right now - a humorous and spot-on critique of the screenplay from a not-obsessed fan. Bravo. Thank you for articulating so many of the issues I had with this work. The unsatisfying character development, the inconsistent time-travel rules, the missed opportunities... nearly everything you pointed out was something that I noticed reading it, but you put your finger on it better than I could in a single reading. And your final point, about the books being mysteries rather than fantasy, is literally the same realization I recently had while re-reading them as an adult. In truth, I think fantasy is not so much a genre as a setting. All good fantasy (and sci-fi) stories are at their core good stories, but wrapped in a unique and interesting setting that takes us out of our ordinary world and presents a sandbox with nearly infinite opportunities for the author to create and invent. The world of Harry Potter is delightfully whimsical, romantic, surprising, and humorous. But what draws me in is the story, the characters, the intrigue and mystery, and the moral lessons. This screenplay lifted the magical setting from the books, but none of the other narrative qualities that I associate with the original series.
I think to blame the problem on the advertising is generous to a fault. As another "retired" Potterhead who apparently lives under a rock, I only just discovered that this play existed, after indulging in some nostalgia now that my oldest kid is reading the books for the first time. I never saw any advertisements or trailers. I got a paperback copy and could immediately tell from the cover that it fell somewhere between fanfiction and a reboot. So my expectations were low...but not low enough. I really wanted to like it. I really did like parts of it. A few, very short parts. But the problems with the story overall got so bad I was cringing by the end of the second act.
A few additional problems you neglected to mention: the Polyjuice potion the kids manage to brew on the same day they jumped off the train. I think book 2 clearly established that Polyjuice potion takes several months to brew, and requires a slew of hard to find ingredients. That was a really hard plot hole to overlook. I also thought the prophetic dreams were a bit of a mcguffin, and Harry's scar hurting during the (original) timeline where Voldemort is still dead (supposedly because spacetime ruptures were imminent? I guess?) seems to defy the previously established rules about the severing of their connection in book 7.
I also thought the changing timelines were extremely confusing. The constant back and forth; the scenes between time jumps with the parents running around trying to find, fix, discipline, or rescue the children while also fretting about Voldemort, who, let's remind ourselves, is still dead; the lack of clarity about whether previous scenes had still happened after subsequent jaunts into the past; and confusion about, for example, what would have happened to the original Hermione and Ron, had the dark fascist parallel universe versions of them managed to make it back to the original universe. (Would there have been 2 of each of them? Would one version of them have ceased to exist? Which one? Is it a parallel universe that the boys are travelling between? Or are they actually changing the present and thereby killing off and reanimating characters?) And how is it that no time paradoxes are generated by all this clambering around in the spacetime continuum? Also, the whole Voldemort's child thing, strains credulity. Even the proliferation about the rumor about Scorpius strains credulity. But even with Delphi, when exactly was Bellatrix supposed to have been pregnant and given birth? Some time during book 7? Wasn't she busy running around doing Death Eater activities throughout that year? Wasn't she torturing Hermione at Malfoy Manor shortly before the Battle of Hogwarts? You can't just insert a pregnancy and birth into all that without seriously fudging with the original story. I could go on but really I just gave up trying to explain things pretty early on and decided to treat it like a piece of fan fiction rather than part of the canon.
Possibly most disappointing is the failure of Albus and Harry to ever really figure out the problems in their relationship - Albus never gets that insight into his dad's past that could have been so poignant had it been explored in scenes like first Triwizard task, and Harry never figures out that the "black cloud" around Albus, which portrait-Dumbledore also hints at, is the fog of Harry's own legacy, and both his and Albus' inability to see each other through it. I kept waiting for that scene where either of them gets some insight into the other, I was hoping for a heart-wrenching moment of father-son connection, and I never got it. We get it with Harry and Dumbledore, but Harry fails to make the same bridge with his own son. It's disapointing to the point of tragic. It feels like the only character that really grows somewhat authentically is Scorpius, due to his experiences in the Voldemort-run world, which at least affords him an opportunity to do some soul-searching. But disapointingly, Albus misses out on this adventure because he's been wiped from existence (which also doesn't make a lot of sense, again, because the time travel rules are clumsily and inconsistently hinted at but never really made explicit or even clear).
Well you've probably long since moved on from this video but I appreciate the satisfying critique and the opportunity to rant in agreement. I should have remembered the lesson I learned from the movies: JK Rowling's standards for the third-party-generated Potter- lore to which she gives her blessing, are far, far lower than the ones she holds herself to when she's actually writing.
Woah you DO live under a rock
@@stevendemayo3631 Whatever, I have kids. I haven't even been to a movie theatre in like 8 years.
Yo a wild redditor has appeared 😯
@@HerrHeissler I don't know what that means 😕
Harry...tells... his son... he wishes.... he'd never been...born...?
What?
Edit: holy sh*t this has 4000 likes... ya'll the real MVPs 💯 🙌 👏
Yeah this makes literally no sense
I was gonna make a joke about Voldemort can take care of it but deathly Hallows
That's not really how Harry would act like. Yeah, he could be a jerk to Ron and Hermione, but he wouldn't say something like THAT
Just makes no sense.
Yeah basically
26:18
The mystery of who put Harry's name in DE GOBLEDO FAYAH.
It's never getting old.
Mohamad Algendy nope, never 😂
Never 😂 I’m 12 and when I saw that moment and I’m like what? It’s hilarious 😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, never.
26:19 replay button for freee
Said Dumbledore calmly
“what went wrong with the cursed child?”
everyone: hmm how about...EVERYTHING
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I know!!!! 😭
Thats the energy we want
It seems like a sequel to the movies rather than the books
What went wrong with the cursed child? Nothing fucking happens.
“There are times i wish you werent my dad”
“Well there are times i wish you werent my son”
This is almost word-for-word taken from the live action Cat in The Hat
it real harry potter will never said that
The 8th harry potter book is similar to the 8th season of Game of Thrones.
Dawit Ashenafi And the 8th episode of Star Wars.
@@williamwebb580 exactly
and the 8th bag of garbage i took out
In terms of writing they're about as as bad as each other although I'd say Game of Thrones season 8 is more offensive because it was a terrible terrible ending to a once great story. The harry potter series ended just fine at the end of book 7 and cursed child is a forgettable, relatively easy to ignore waste of space. I can still go back and read books 1-7 and have a great time. To me game of thrones ends at the end of season 6 but that;s not a particularly satisfying conclusion as there are so many unresolved plot threads.
@Ilickmypopcornbag no it really was that bad even before the last episode. The bells is the biggest crime in literature history. Daenerys spending an hour burning all of king's landing for absolutely no reason whatsoever (giving cersei, the person she's supposed to mad with time to escape) after resisting attacking the capital for so long in fear of killing too many innocent people in the crossfire is the most nonsensical, stupid and offensive scene of all time.
Dany may have forgotten about the iron fleet but I haven't forgotten how Arya stark teleported from nowhere behind the night king to kill him
Harvey Dent: you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain
JKR: hold my butterbeer
Omg trueeeee
She needs to learn to let go and stop milking off the HP franchise until it’s dry.
Now we know why it's best to let authors die first before we make them famous. Not everyone of them will be like Stephen King who stays disciplined enough not to mess up his works. The same bullshit is happening with Game of Thrones.
@@spirittammyk yeah George takes long asf to create books so I'm sure that had something to do with the ending season
Rowling didn't write cursed child
4th book: the mystery of who put Harry’s name in the Goblet of Fiyahh.
ABskiTV *dumbledore said calmly*
HARRY! DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE!
Andrew Parritt HARRYYYYYYY
What Dumbledore asked *calmly* .
HARREY DIDYA PUTYA NAME IN DA GOBLETAH FIYAHH
I saw live a few years ago having not read the script. The staging and the way they adapted magic to the medium of theater was super well-done. I definitely was most engaged during the first part. At the end of the 1st part there are dementors everywhere and it’s so spooky and when you come back for part 2, all the ushers are wearing death eater uniforms (they wore Hogwarts uniforms for part 1) and they’re wishing you “Happy Voldemort Day!” which was a lot of fun. But part 2 just relies so heavily on what had already happened in the books rather than actually creating a NEW story about the kids doing their own things. I loved the kids characters and which they had had a chance to have their own story rather than keep living in their parents’ shadows.
Nobody:
Jk: Albus Severus is actually Delphi’s Father because time turners, oh and Nagini is the Mom, and they are all different nationalities and devoted Catholics
Don't forgot candy lady
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i have a hard time believing harry, someone who definitely felt unloved throughout his entire childhood, would tell albus "i wish you weren't my son". all of the characterization in this felt hilariously off.
also, although i know harry expressed the desire to be an auror as a child, i feel like it would have better suited his character to have him become a teacher at hogwarts. i highly doubt that a boy who was on the front lines of a war for most of his childhood would jump at the chance to become a wizard cop.
these were my thoughts exactly! i thought i was the only one sure that Harry would not want to be an auror after everything he went through, anymore.. i also felt he'd rather become a teacher at Hogwarts, maybe for Defense Against the Dark Arts.
who knows t
That was the worst part of the book for me. Harry is a nice guy. A parent just doesn’t *say* that to his kid.
There’s also the whole thing where Harry is suspicious because Albus is in slytherin. It totally contradicts the original epilogue.
you have to understand that people chagne as they get older. kid 11 year old harry is NOT adult harry. And if you can't accept that, it's ur problem. I hate the book but that IS a fact. Don't be a fanboy/fangirl thinking harry has to be perfect, character flaws are good.
+Gira
I think telling your kid that you wish he wasn't your son goes past a typical character flaw. That's the kind of thing I would expect from an _unlikable_ character.I don't want to _dislike_ Harry.
Nobody:
J.K. Rowling: Belatrix Lestrange had cerebral paralysis, and died from an aneurysm.
Not like they literally showed her being killed by Mrs Weasley in both the book and the movie or anything
you kinda fucked up the joke GhostofWinterfell
Oh and she fucked voldemort too
igeto12 I’m not sure when exactly but they had a child so it happend
@@WiloPolis03 they showed Hermione being a white girl too but y'know. J.K. will retcon anything lol
Honestly would’ve been great to see Albus become a Ravenclaw. They’re canonically full of bullies who maliciously targeted Luna for years, and attention-seeking characters like Quirrell and Lockhart came from there too. They never really got any heroic characters except for Luna and Flitwick, and both of them were kinda overshadowed even then.
It would also show a nice change in priorities from Harry to Albus. Albus would hope to escape fame unlike most Ravenclaws. He would seek true wisdom and knowledge rather than glory or justice. It would even start things up for Albus to be kinda dark-leaning, as Ravenclaw House has produced the second highest number of dark wizards.
Scorpius himself could’ve been a great Hufflepuff. And the two low-attention Houses could’ve been in the spotlight.