DJI Osmo Action 4: Don't Buy The Hype
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BIG News from DJI considering OA4 audio: • DJI Osmo Action 4 BIG ...
Now that Osmo Action 4 supports wireless audio with the new MIC 2 from Dji there is a good reason to go for the newer camera. That is if you need those features.
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Both cameras are in FULL AUTO mode the whole time. 4K 60fps. Just like the cameras come out of the box. People can change and debate how different settings affect the image on both but this is how most users will end up using these cameras for motovlogging so I made the comparison in auto setting mode.
Watch this before buying the 'big sensor' hype of the new Osmo Action 4. Watch the video to the end and then decide if you really need the upgrade or not.
The real world differences are pretty minor even though the reviews online are hyping it to the moon with all the "bigger sensor size" talk...
The only reason I worth upgrading to the 4 is the external mic levels control. If you need a wired mic level control then buy the 4.
This video you can see me use both cameras back and forth: • Yamaha Tenere 700 Verd...
New camera is in the chin mount and old one on he windscreen filming me.
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Action 3 owner here.....by far the best and most unbiased review of the Action 4. Very nice comparison. Thank you very much!
Buying the now cheaper 3 means more money left for a few key accessories. Your visual awareness is exceptional. Not everyone has that 'eye' but you do. Your examples were excellent, without being boring. And those cycleways!! Fantastic!!
Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
My pleasure!
Awesome, very honest review, not biased at all ❤
such a helpful comparison -- thank you!
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Good job. Practical, useful information. Thanks!
An excellent video thank you! Being a fellow motorcyclist considering these two cameras you have confirmed that for what I need the 3 will be more than adequate 👍🏼
Very welcome! It's probably true for most users. The old model is very nice.
very nice review sir. cant decide first which dji action cam to buy 3 or 4 model, now i will go for 3 and also saves me money. from philippines.
great comparison, thanks for this. I purchased the action4 as an upgrade from my hero8 after having issues with a hero11.
sweet T7
Yep I swapped to DJI after years of struggling with the gopro cameras. No looking back! :)
Thanks to you I am keeping my OA3 and saving a few bucks! Thanks so much!
Just subscribed, AWESOME content, thank you❤
OUSTANDING !!! Best review I have seen. Keep up the good work!
Because I like how the 3 saturates the colors I got the 3 recently, nice video there, and the entire place there looks amazing to get some vids.. well done.
Excellent honest content. Valuable and to the point. Thanks.
I appreciate that!
Best review out there, thanks for making it. To me it looks like the fast moving parts look cleaner with the OA4, which is great for off roaders. The most annoying thing to me about previous cameras is the way all the ruts, rocks, and roots on the trail ahead just look like nothing from the compression and motion blur. Interesting about the night footage. Looks like the OA4 increased noise filter, lower ISO, and lower Shutter speed. You could likely reverse those settings to match or exceed the look of the OA3, if you really wanted to. For me nowadays I just shoot in Auto and I don't think I've ever filmed with an action cam at night. So for a mere $50 price difference here in Canada, the OA4 is a no brainer based on what I've seen here.
Thank you! I'm getting a 2ndhand Action 3 thanks to your vid.
Good choice!
Very honest comparison! Cheers from Argentina 🇦🇷
Thanks! 🙂✌️
Excellent test! Thank you!
My pleasure! 😄
Fantastic video!!! Thanks for doing that! I’m sticking with the OA3 for the time being.
Good choice! 😁 Thanks for commenting!
Geat and honest review. I heard the Action 5 might be released this August. I'll just wait a few months instead of getting the Action 4.
Thank you so much for a very informative and useful video!
Are the lenses on the lens interchangeable on 3 and 4 Action? Thank you in advance
Yes they are!
Brilliant real world review. Very helpful, thank you.
Thanks mate! This test was spot on - it's the real world daily use case. I mean, who the heck use manual mode and Dlog on a action camera, gyroflow stabilization and then color grade + denoise in post anyway? Fully automatic mode with normal color + rocksteady is the way to go!
I just extended my DJI care on launch day Action 3 to three years, that means four years warranty if no fall or crash. Any accidental damage to the camera will only cost me 15 bucks. DJI care is all the reason I choose osmo action over GoPros anyday.
From where I live there are hundreds of Action 3 sellers listing everyday. Some are listed at half price of brand new Action 4. Could just buy an used Action 3 with DJI care, smash on walls or drop off bridge and pay $15 to get a refurb unit from DJI - you can't go wrong for that price anyway.
The difference was deffo not significant enough to convince me to sell OA3 cheap and buy OA4 at full price. When using action cameras to film, you already give up on image quality anyway.
I will keep my OA3 and upgrade to iPhone 15 Pro max or ultra or whatever Tim names the phone for use cases that demands image quality over stabilization.
Definitely better deal to get 2 action 3's :D
very very help pull this video. Thanks.
You're welcome!
Great video thanks for uploading this I think I go for the 3 I’ve got the original one so time for update 👍🏻
Enjoy it✌️
Good work on this video. Thankyou.
Thank for the comparison. Great video
Great video, I suspected what you confirmed. I got the Action 3 Adventure pack almost half the price of the Action 4 Adventure pack. Thanks!
That was a very good and Helpful review! Made my mind now. Good job
Thanks was very confused which to buy as this will be my first action camera
Cheers from Sydney. Youve nailed the niche when you said to only review the fast moving pace shots and not the vlog style shots 😂. Im glad you did the same street at night. Theres a few more frames on colours and blurs that I could see are better in OA3 than OA4. Overall I thoroughly enjoyed this - I have my own OA3 and it’s THE BEST action camera I’ve ever invested in 🎉
Same for me. Software alone is GREAT :)
Great and useful , I’m a loyal OA3 user and previously OA1 fellow moth logger. Your video just saved me a decision 👍🏼👍🏼. Greetings from Scotland
Glad I could help!
Thanks for sharing your video. I received a new Action 3 camera last week then the Action 4 was released. I’m going to stick with the Action 3 as I’m pretty impressed with it’s features and the app. Might be because it’s the first time I’ve bought an action camera.
Good choice! It is still a very good camera. I would not hesitate to use it as my main shooter for another year. Safe filming!
Just the review I needed! Kiitos!
Exellent side by side comparison and very informative commentary. Thanks for that! Overall a really great upgrade imho. Its a little big more expensive (ofcourse you can sometimes get the 3 in a sale now) but overall in most cases a better image especially for nighttime. You dont see that much more, but its much less noisy. For daytime action its not that much of a difference so yea some people might have a bennefit in buying the 3 in sale.
Very true. I would hope for a faster default shutter speeds at night though. Dont like if the video becomes too ”dreamy”. Bit of noise is not a problem for me :)
Maybe they patch it later. The Sensor is bigger so theres not the need to for anything else but i think they wanted to picture to be brighter overall for better advertisement. But the feedback is there. I would like to have a bit darker image without the blur but the same lesser noisy picture. Maybe they let us adjust it soon. Anyway without rocksteady the image is not that bloomy so its only a software problem and might get fixed. :)@@PatchedBandit
Thank you for such a nice comparison. I think at night footage it was not the difference in motion blur but in noise reduction. It would be interesting to repeat this test with noise reduction settings on the lowest and in 10-bit D-Log mode. I think this is where Action 4 will shine.
Most people buying these will only use default modes and thats what I tried to show here.
Tech channels will hopefully do a more in depth comparisons of log and other modes soon.
The release day videos were such a disappointment to me so I released this real life side to side with default settings the moment I got the camera in my hand.
I mostly do motorcycle content 🙂
@@PatchedBandit Yes, you are right! Default settings are for common scenarios and normal use. But your scenario is far from common and I guess you should put some effort in changing settings. It would be nice to show the best results that you can get from this camera. I like Action 4 for its flexibility and extensive options in settings. Anyway, you did a great job by making this video. Thank you!
Thank you so much. I take your suggestion.
I picked this camera up mostly because I needed the abilities of the 3 but with in lower light (less noise). Also the LOG shooting is way better for post grading cinematic colors.
True. Making your own corrections from log can result in some nice footage from both cameras.
This is not made to bash either camera and I will happily use both on my videos. But considering the insane amount of release hype that is mostly just sponsored content I don't think this is a massive upgrade. Very gradual improvement on an already great camera :) ... and I think DJI has some work to do with the default processing.
One of the best comparisons of two products I 've seen. The method you use to attach the cameras, gives a very good real time comparison. Great work!
Question; what microphone are you using while filming? Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! Here I still used the DJI Wireless mic 1. Now I have the new mic 2 on some of the newest videos on my channel and it seems to work pretty nicely. Also retaining the waterproofness of the osmo action 4 as it doesn't need any receiver to be plugged in the usb-c port.
That's a good comparison. Thanks for the effort.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome comparison.! Congratulation, I'm yours now!
Bravo! Tusind Tak for this best ever comparison. You just convinced me to buy my first DJI Osmo camera, which going to be Nr.3. Well done!
Best Test ever for the 3 and 4! Thanks for it.
Great comparison - thanks!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Thank you for this review! Question, were you using automatic on all settings? No changes made on iso/shutter speed etc...
Auto settings on both
The video I have been waiting for, a non paid/sponsored one. The only action cam I own is a cheap Akaso type one so I have been looking to upgrade for a while, I do not want to go the GoPro route for several reasons, need a media mod, overheating, crashing etc. I think based on this video I will get the 4 as quite a bit of what I use it for is lowlight, evening scenes when travelling. Thanks once again for the video and helping me make my mind up.
Fantastic to hear I could help! Can't go wrong in either option and the 4 will probably get a lot of updates in the coming months that might improve the camera.
For low light scenes I would probably go for the new one too even though I don't like the shutter speed and too much noise cancellation by default. The noise cancelation can be adjusted in the custom menu though.
I have the AO1, needed another camera for different view locations. Debated over the 3 vs 4, but got a good deal on an adventure pack with the 3, which yes, allowed me to purchase extra accessories as well.
I really do not like the lens flares on the 4 from sun, lights, etc.
Bought my 3 around September of last year, but am now getting more familiar with it.
Thank you for the comparisons.
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Nice video bro! You got a new subscriber.
Appreciate it! I am mainly a motorcycle channel though so you are warned 😅
Very helpful, thanks a lot!
Got an Action 3. And a fitting headset for voice recording. Seems easy to use. Gotta try it out under the helmet on a ride - when the rain stops. Thanks for you comparison. Günter/Nürnberg
Hope you enjoy it!
Excellent review, some important points made.
This is a great comparison on the bike. Thanks.
The difference at night was interesting. I liked how much better the 4 looked when being lit by your headlight, but the buildings looked prettier on the 3 when lit up with their own lights.
I'm in the market for an action camera (my first one), so I'm holding off for a few weeks to see what happens with the new model from a certain other brand that should be released next month. Unless it is drastically better than the current models I will be choosing between the older models from either brand (and hoping some of them come on sale once the new one is released and shops want to clear out old stock - some shops here in Australia still have stock of the hero 9).
If I can give you one advice it is not to buy the hero 9. Probably the worst software on a gopro camera ever and they do not fix the issues with updates. I owned one for years and it was very bad the whole time. One update even completely bricked the camera and gopro blamed it on my memory card. EVEN though gopro's own forums had multiple users with the same issues complaining about it.
Gopro has lost all the credibility of software and customer support in my eyes.
Can't say anything about the newest models but I have read online by multiple accounts that they still keep freezing and you need to take the battery out all the time.
@PatchedBandit thanks for the advice. I wasn't really that keen on a 9, was more thinking a 10 or 11. The 10 is $30 more than the action 3 here, and now that GP has reduced the price of the 11, it's only $20 more than the action 4 is. It's just hard to find good footage shot on an action 3 to compare. I'll have to check out more of you videos
All of my videos for the last 8 months the main helmet camera is the Action 3. Lot's of content to shift through :)
I wonder if the OA4, with a touch of negative EV, would expose the same as the OA3 and look about the same at night, including closer shutter speed.
@@mad082sss only my experience: I abandoned GP10 in favor of Action 3 because of the unnatural plasticine color and insufficient sharpness. Formally, the resolution of the GP10 is slightly higher, but it has a narrower angle and in the "no sharpness" mode everything looked blurred, and in the standard ("normal") mode, aggressive sharping was pretty terrible. In addition, GP10 lives much less from one battery and is much more heated. I didn't have GP11 for long and liked it a little more than GP10, but I still stayed with Action 3.
By the way, I find the new Action 4 attractive, I like the dynamic sharpness in it most of all - judging by the reviews and thanks to the author of this video, I have the confidence that it is higher here than on Action 3 )
Great video. I have the action 3 and i feel with very minor adjustments, there would be almost no difference the 3 and 4.
Thank you for this review! I've been looking at the Insta360 Ace (Pro) but to get those as my first action camera, I do think those are expensive. I'll probably buy the Action 3 as I do like the colors more there. I do have one question as a first time action camera buyer, with insta360 you have the Insta360 app, is there an app for DJI as well or is it easy to edit the videos? I'm going to the jungle in a few months so I don't want messy videos of that once in a lifetime moment 🙈 thanks in advance ☺️
There is an app called ”DJI mimo” that has an editor function also. I never use it as I edit my videos with final cut pro but searching dji mimo editor you can probably check how it works.
I like DJI as the app is optional. I always just transfer my files using a card reader and I like that DJI files are readable without first taking them in to the app.
Some Insta cameras require user to use the app first to download videos and then export the files and my experience with my insta360 go2 is that the app is very buggy and fails to export files very often.
DJI is reliable and thats what I like the most! 🙂 hope this helps
nicely shown comparison between the newest and the older model :) but I wonder, maybe it was just the settings making the footage more blurred in low light scenarios? still a valid point, even if it was just full-auto out of the box settings.
Both in full auto. Like 99.9% of people use them. Some settings can be adjusted of course but most motovloggers dont do scene by scene asjusting like pro filmmakers so this is why I made this with everything on normal.
Great review, coming from the original OA I'm definitely getting the OA4 as it is Def better than the 3
Great video. I assume there's more detail in the ground in many day time shots because the larger sensor, gathering more light, allows a higher framerate. Night tests should have been done with normalization (same shutter speed and ISO) for a real test of the sensor and software denoising changes. But then again, most of us aren't going to be setting manual exposure and for practical usage it's better to test the automatic handling of different scenarios.
Yes, exactly. I wanted to show the cameras as they are with everything in autopilot because most motovloggers are not going to fiddle with the settings scene by scene.
This was mostly a motovlogger test. I still use both of them on most of my shoots and after owning all the big brands I firmly believe DJI makes the best actioncameras on the market today. Ease of use and reliability are key factors for me.
We are lucky there are people like you making unbiased and in-depth reviews like that one, thank you so much! 🙏
Just bought 2 weeks ago Action 3. I will keep it
One of the reasons I decided to upgrade was to finally be able to stop worrying about the out of focus close subjects. My Action 3 was manufactured after they supposedly fixed the issue, although I was still suspicious that the "fix" was achieved with sharpening rather than correcting the lens focus. Overall, I consider either Action to be a better choice than GoPro. I grew very tired of the glitchy touchscreen and intermittent freezing and power downs of the GoPro.
Same scenario for me, my OA3 was supposedly after the fixing focus, but something was just not right. I have footage that I couldn't tell apart from my old Hero 5.
I've got an OA4 and it noticeably better than the 3 in every day use, didn't even need to compare.
Maybe I was unlucky with my OA3, but this OA4 is exceptional.
I haven't experienced this issue but I probably don't use the camera in a way where it would be apparent. I'm glad you see DJI fixed this problem with the new one.
@@neilwildy4192 yes, there was a softness/muddiness to the footage, and again, this was in one of the newer manufactured OA3's. I've spent a week or so now with the OA4 and I have nothing negative to report. The touchscreen can be mildly finicky (although I have a tempered glass protector in place), but even with the protector, its better than the GoPro 11.
I don't have the Action 3, so Action 4 is really good for me. I bought it as an addition to my gear, not a replacement. Also have the GoPro Hero 10, a DJI Pocket 2, and an Insta360 X3. I feel like I now have a very well rounded set and can handle about anything, with multiple camera angles, while keeping the gear bag small and portable.
Thanks for sharing! I added the 4 to accompany my 3 aswell. Both in good use going forward :)
What is the point of the Hero 10 when you own the A4?
Very informative!
Very good review, keep it up!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for making this comparison. I'm in the market to replace my GoPro Hero 5 Black with either the DJI Action 3 or 4 for my motovlog. I have yet to decide, but I'm leaning toward the 3 primarily due to the difference in cost. Thankfully, I only have a little invested in my GoPro setup, and my mic should work with the DJI. I'll probably watch this a few more times. I appreciate your time and effort in this comparison; it benefits me.
Glad to help! I own the Hero 5 and it is probably one of the last Gopro's that still had stable software. You are taking a huge leap in image guality with either one of these cameras. Gopro hero 5 is starting to look really dated.
Extra tip: If you are looking for wireless mic setups to go with the osmo action I would wait just a bit for DJI to release the "dji wireless mic 2".. I'm thinking it might come in a few days/weeks time.
Other than that both of these support external mics but the Osmo 4 also has gain control for wired microphones that the OA3 is missing.
Good filming!
Great testing, my friend. I have the 3 and was thinking of getting the 4, but it's not a big difference. It's very minor, in fact, thank you. I will just stick with the 3 it's a very capable camera 👍
Totally agree. Picture quality is not a good enough reason to upgrade in my opinion. Some even prefer the processing on the older model.
Nice one. Helpful.
Glad it helped
@@PatchedBandit It was simple and straightforward to the point with self evident comparisons. Appreciated.
Thanks for sharing your honest opinion. Your comparison with the newly released Osmo Action 4.
I see OA3 is doing exceptionally well.
Thanks! :) It is still a very competent camera!
Great of you to take the time to make this comparison video. Sharing the settings of each action camera would have been helpful for total beginners as when you say things like "there is much more motion blur in the new picture than there is in the old action 3" at 10:53 doesn't really explain how motion blur is attained on an action camera, or on cameras in general. Rocksteady 4K 60fps with a shutter speed of 1/50 will look very different compared to a shutter speed of 1/120 or even 1/200, let alone a high or low ISO when dealing with blown out highlights. But manual settings versus auto exposure settings which is what I assume you have on both OAC 3 & 4 is really where the discussion of 'which model of Osmo Action Camera is better when trying to get a great image’ should be where the conversation is lead from.
Like stated in the video both cameras are on "full auto" mode. Only setting that is locked is 60fps and 4K.
The reason for this is that 99% of motovloggers will always choose to use automatic settings. Motovloggers rarely pick and choose settings for every scene individually as scenes change rapidly during a ride.
But I understand the need for a more in depth video but there are other videos on TH-cam for an in depth tutorial and/or review of these cameras.
This is to show that for most users during normal lighting conditions the difference is miniscule and that each camera will pick a slightly different look especially on darker scenes. I suspect DJI did this to enhance the 'big sensor' promotion of the newer camera.
Slowing down the shutterspeeds and adding more noise removal in auto settings.
@@PatchedBandit Correct me if I’m wrong and feel free to time stamp where “full auto mode” is mentioned because I don’t actually think it is stated in the video, I say this only because total beginners may not get the full picture of the what and how when trying to understand certain terms when spoken about. But anyway, thanks again for taking the time to make the comparison and for explaining how automotive shooters operate action cameras, it’s good to know how everyone in different genres and not just walking vloggers use their action cameras to its full potential to get the best results.
I added a more clear information to the description now.
Excellent comparison. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your honest, real world comparison. The 3 seems like a good deal. Could be the successor of my old GoPro 7 black. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg
Highly recommended to replace the Hero 7☺ 👍
is what I do it, some years with gp7 ( almost great camera) and now I decided buy the action 3, I'm not ride moto but instead bike, and I think the action 3 is more than sufficient to make videos. for TH-cam, if I'm professional I no make option for any action cam on the market.
Dji action 3 + TH-cam = More than sufficient.
Very true. DJI OA3 is still a great camera and I still used the hero 5 footage in my latest video. It is starting to look bad compared to the dji oa 3 though :)
Safe rides!
@@the-portuguese-guy Thanks, much appreciated.
@@PatchedBandit Could be a nice Christmas present ;-)
Good job, j'ai la 4, je vais rester sur auto, mais en D log M, pour retouche vidéo.
I still use the first osmo action on my motorcycle and footage in 4k is good. However i have been looking to upgrade as i would like a wider lense. Have been looking at OA3 and OA4 but i dont see much difference to justify paying more for the OA4. Think i will buy the 3. Thanks for your video.
I think most people couldn't tell the difference. It takes a practiced and experience eye to see most the differences. I also wonder if the 3 couldn't just get a firmware update to bring it in line with the 4. I just bought a 4 but after watching your comparison 3/4 videos I think I would have been just as happy with the 3. Great job showing this!
They are almost the same camera. DJI could even give us wireless connection with their new DJI Mic 2 if they wanted to... makes me upset that they won't. I may upgrade when the 5 comes out in 6 months, but it's not worth it for what's basically an iPhone S version of the action camera. So yeah, they could give us a firmware update if they really wanted to take care of their customers.
@@TheRickReaction The Mic 2 connects to the Action 4 via bluetooth. No receiver needed.
@@SW-Video I know, but with a firmware update the Action 3 could also be wireless with the DJI Mic 2.
@@RickMcGovern If it has BT capability. Do you know if it does? That would be a hardware thing if I'm not mistaken.
Thanks for the video mate! I bought the Action 3 a couple of months before the 4 came out and was annoyed by how much better the new one looks on paper. The two things ill miss are prerecording and compatibility with the mic2 but meh, nothing to write home about as you say :)
Quick question though, what kind of mount do you use on your helmet? Any tips on that? That's one thing that scares me.
I use "chinmounts" products on all my helmets and I've been happy with them for the most part. On my winter helmet I have glued it permanently on the helmet though as the 3M tape options do not stick well during winter months and freezing temperatures in Finland.
On the summer helmet they have been fine with the provided tape though. I would still recommend heating up the tape a bit with some blower before sticking it on. Cleaning the surfaces and keeping pressure after attachment for at least 5 minutes. Also don't use the sticky the same day but give it time to adhere overnight.
Hi. Very interesting, especially for me as I essentially use my Osmo Actions (1,2&3) for motovlogging. The 4 is on the way, should have it tomorrow. Despite the small difference, the better range is for me a key difference as I often have burned skies on my pictures when contrast is too strong. As you say, getting a OA3 should be soon a good deal, but buying a product not at the top makes also its resale value even lower later. My concept is that having 2 or 3 cameras this size is a lot of fun as you can fix them (on the bike) and vary the shots for the same action & place. So I’ll keep all my Osmos but use them according their performances with lighting. Enjoyed your review. Thanks again
Very true. I also use multiple cameras and this purchase was mainly to move the osmo action 3 to be my secondary shooter (previous hero 5 is pretty bad nowadays).
I do like the new camera and there is option to crank down on the noice canceling to -1 or -2 in custom options. This probably will give a bit more detail but of course push a bit more noise to the video. As the standard setting produces to me even a bit too smooth of an image I'm gonna push it to -1 in the future.
I'm a bit disappointed on the low light shutter speed that is clearly dropped way down from the version 3. But it's not like it's terrible or anything. Just something everyone should know. The cleaner image is not only due to this "bigger sensor".
This is not a comprehensive review of either camera but I wanted to show is the 'big sensor' hype as revolutionary as everyone seems to shout in youtube right now. And I think it is definitely not.
I hope DJI imroves the processing via firmware updates as they did for the 3 in the past too.
@@PatchedBandit I guess I’ll do like you and will compare them side to side (as always). I use the OA2 on my helmet as it’s tiny and light weight, but definitely not the best in contrast. OA3 is moving around the bike on different supports. Have an Insta360 X3 for fun, but finely not happy with image quality as soon as you even think about zooming in by 1% 😁. I consider saling it now . Then a DJI Drone and a Canon XA70 for complex shooting completes the team. To have equivalent rendering between oa2 & 3, I have to adjust EV by -0,5 (don’t remember on which one) ; I’ll check if oa4 need the same trick to give matching footage with the other ones. Maybe I’ll do a video like yours in French , it may interest my fellow french riders…
By the way, I subscribed to your channel ! You’re welcome on mine (subtitles in many language). ✌🏼
Subbed! I have thought about the insta 360 cameras too but I have the go 2 and I don't like the process as I need to compose and edit every clip in the insta app before they're usable.
Would be a nice secondary camera but I'm not sold on them yet :) If I could get the files out just like from the DJI and do the composing in FCP I would buy one tomorrow.
Also I'm not too sure about those huge selfie sticks attached to the bike... in my kind of riding they will last 2 minutes :D
@@PatchedBandit well, you don’t need to have a long pole to get nice footage. I have the looooong 3 meters pole and it looks like I’m filmed from an helicopter (and the pole vibrates too much). With a good rigid 20cm arm from Ram-Mount, fixed anywhere, the X3 lens is at roughly 30cm from any part of the bike and it’s good enough without any vibration. But once you’ve made some « whaoo » effects, it’s always the same… so to be used with care. Very bad point : the lens is too fragile and any scratch will be seen on footage. Big advantage : you don’t have to care about framing the shots : it films everywhere (but it’s soooooo long to work on it after in post..)
Thank u... i go for action 3...
very realistic comparison...thank you for the video
My pleasure!
One question what about color profile what the different
i upgraded to the Action 4 from a hero 8 so its was good upgrade as looking at the hero 11 but with there issues i wanted to try DJI for a change
Good pick for sure
Thanks for your efforts here - nice presentation - you have helped me make my decision - for the extra bit of cash - the 4 seems to be the one! My brace of Hero 8's have now gone red light of death and just out of warranty - so I'll not touch a gopro again.
Glad I could help!
Awesome comparision bro..👍
Good comparison. When I have seen comparisons with the latest gopro, it has always seemed to me, that Action 4 overexposes some stuff. But seen like this, it does not seem bad at all. Is there a way to drop the exposure like one step or half step?
Yes. You can drop it by exposure steps of 0.3 so I wouldn’t worry about that much. Also I believe one of the latest firmware upgrades adressed an issue like this too. Check out the changelogs.
Hi, there buddy Bandit!
First, congrats on the great video and mainly on the honesty with which you've reviewed and compared both models, with non-sponsored opinions!
As a stroke survivor and as a sighted guide for blind athletes I've decided to create a channel in order to promote some good initiatives to help all the people involved in these two causes.
And, as I've never had an action cam, I've been searching through a myriad of videos for to find the "best" camera for my content creation.
The point is: #DJI , #Insta360 and #GoPro never replied any of my requests. And you just did it very well!
At 9:42 you pointed out some details that have clearly been lost on the newest model from DJI, what can really help me make up my decision on the very first camera. Besides, in my country these gear are too expensive (to let you know: the difference between action 3 and action 4 prices is of US$ 250, almost a new camera purchase!), what can also drive me towards the "oldest" model.
Lastly, thanks and congrats on the real pretty images of the Finnish sky by the end of he video, really loved them all!
And remember, folks: DO NOT BUY ANY HYPE! (loved it!)
An excellent 2024 to family and friends!
Subscribed, of course!
Thanks or the kind comments and for the good cause! I've been battling a brain tumour and problems it gave me for the past 2 years too.
I wish you good health and luck with the channel 🙂
@@PatchedBandit be sure that from now on you're gonna be within all my prayers for your health, buddy! I'm sure we will win! May that wonderful Finnish sky bring us all the good we need and deserve. My kindest regards!
I’m using the Osmo 4 adapter key is also to use their DJI lav mic and the quality is better imo than using the wireless mic 2
Benefit of the wireless mic 2 is keeping the waterproof nature of the osmo action 4. Also pulling the 32Bit float from the mic should be the best quality of any alternative solution.
Requires a bit of work but as the mic creates 1 to 1 internal audio recordings matching the amount of video recordings syncing in post is super easy.
I'm gonna test the mic 2 in more detail when I get the time though. The first firmware was not great..
Great comparison and thank you for this. Due to this ... I will not replace my DJI Osmo Action 3. It does the job and still quite OK. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Glad it was helpful!
@@PatchedBandit 🙏🏻👍🏻🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Very nice compare! One of the best! Thank you! Waiting OA5
Glad you liked it!
Nice comparison. Did you try DLOG-M 10-bit vs DCinelike? If you have the OA3 you should only upgrade if you want (1) better low light...the night scenes were much better light and the motion blur was natural so the shutter speed was better set to 180* of the frame rate, (2) need the USB-C audio fixes in the OA4, (3) want DLOG-M, or (4) need a remote that works multiple cameras.
I only compared the default modes that most people use. Log comparison would be a bit more complex to do with grading headroom tests etc. I'm not really a tech channel and they do a good job with those already :)
I got so excited with the remote option but then disappointed because it can't wake up camera from sleep mode. This is a huge hit for battery life as everything needs to be powered on at all times.
@@PatchedBandit when I use a remote I externally power the cameras. Is there any way to turn off the power saving mode?
I'm newbie considering OA4 for my first camera. Intended for helmet mounted recording of my TET adventures. How do you charge battery(es) on long trips, like going TET?
DJI says OA4 battery lasts for 2.5 hours of recording. Even when you are recording half of the time, you need 3 or 4 batteries a day. (Assuming you need 10h of raw footage to make 1 hour of final cut video). At the end of the day you sleep in a tent without electric plug. I use to camp outdoors on a trail for a week straight.
The best solution would be a 12V powered waterproof battery charger and just keep swapping two batteries. DJI offers adventure pack with 3 batteries and a charger that is not waterproof and per customer report it dies when it gets wet. So it can't be used to charge batteries on the run. It may survive charging overnight, but 3 batteries combined with a phone have enough capacity to drain your motorbike battery flat. For sure if you have a light weight LiFePo battery. So that's not a good idea either.
I can't find good charging solution on Internet.
I will be short on my phone but here goes..
1. You learn pretty quick that you dont want 10h or raw video to edit. Too much work and too much pointless ’empty video’. So record here and there 5-15 minute bits and cut down hard at home. Most tet videos are not worth a full hour in my opinion. Mine included.
2. Always charge devices while riding from a motorcycle outlet. Usb somewhere near and cable to tankbag is my solution. You can charge multiple batteries mid ride and mever have a problem with batteries.
3. One DJI battery lasts me a full day of riding as I dont record constantly. Quickstart if there is something interesting happening. Other than that just a clip there clip here … combo has 3 batteries so those should last around 3 days. When you charge while riding you will never run out.
I watched now some comparing videos and its so interesting to see that the 3 is in some cases better than the 4 and then it change opposite :) .. Like ypu shot with the lines at the houses (woodplank?). In the daytime the 4 capture it better and in the night its the 3 who did a better job.. I think its some with the software.. IMO it think they "manipulate" it with the motion blur, that you didnt see that much noise in the night on the 4 cause in some cases the 3 gives a better image with more detailes. I bought the 3 now for 230€ an i am happy with it.. The daytime videos are ok for this sensor. The Photo feature.. hmm... dont use it.. its so bad compared with an iphone 13 or a lumix.. So i still need to bring at least 2-3 divixes :) .. thx for your video and your thoughts about the results.
I was hoping to see a higher resolution sensor on the Action 4 because I tend to use my Action 3 for stills.
True. Gopro wins with the resolution part. Would also be nice to have some cropping room on video.
It is a bit advantage in night drive.But not necessary for moto vlog.The 3 is more clearer and appealing to the eye.The 4 gives a bit clearer in detail but darker.Very minimal thata viewer will not be able to notice..I suppose to buy 4 but 3 is still a good one and can save a little more.But it is a great review..Thanks!
Great side by side. I will keep my action 3👍
Good choice :)
I am currently looking at these two and about to get my 1st action cam to record my moto rides and the action 4 is compatible now, after the last firmware update, with the DJI mic2 (whenever it gets released separately ...) directly, without needing a receiver, and that is a big plus from my point of view. Maybe DJI will update the action 3 also but ... maybe not.
Probably not for the older model. Also there is a bug in the oa4+mic too. Watch the newest vid.
Most of the issues you mentioned have been fixed by the most recent framework update.
Hope that is true. I havent tested the camera in low light rescently but I will do many times now that I start riding offroad in finnish winter.
Still daytime I don't see any noticeable difference between these cameras.
My newest long video was shot with the 3 and 4 flipping back and forth. 4 is still less saturated but that's about it.
How was the audio using usb mic installed inside helmet for MotoVlogging? Is it still clipping high audio until its unusable?
Have not tried a direct mic yet. I use DJI wireless 2 mic set to record my audio.
@@PatchedBandit i hope you can make a video about it, that is the main reason for me to switch to Action 4... Because in Action 3 the only way that i can make my audio usable is to use my rode wireless go 2, which is not ok to use on a foggy it a little rainy situation, Thank you!
@@DaDarthShow I just got the boya adapter that I could use to test this. I should probably try and make a full audio episode.
I swear by using 2 mics on me for best results. Sometimes I have forgotten to put the setup in dual channel mode but other than that I have gotten my sound pretty nice :)
I use the new adapter trick is their DJI lav mic best I have ever tested check out my channel you can tell
Hi Brother.
Thanks for your this video it's help me out to decide that DJI Osmo Action 4 good for me.
Thanks Again Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Awesome to get a view all the way from India 🙂🙂 glad I could help
you did a great job here🔥 keep it up bro
Thanks 🔥
@@PatchedBandit i bought action 3 after watching your review video.
Its an awesome camera. I use both and don’t really care which one is where as 99% of the time they both produce good video 🙂 The 3 also has a noticeably wider FOV so in many situations thats a big benefit over the new one.
Good pick 👍
@@PatchedBandit yeah i am normal travel vlogger and gym workout shoots.
no night photography
no moto vlogging.
So I thought in my case action 3 is better and it saves around 160£ 😂
With that price difference I’m taking the 3 every day of the week.
Bajo mi humilde opinion yo creo que por la poca diferencia entre ellas no vale la pena cambiar de la 3 a la 4. Gracias por el video amigo un saludo desde Sevilla España. Nuevo Suscriptor
Correct. If you don't need the external mic level adjustment there is no point in upgrading. 👍