DJI Osmo Action 4: Don't Buy The Hype

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    BIG News from DJI considering OA4 audio: • DJI Osmo Action 4 BIG ...
    Now that Osmo Action 4 supports wireless audio with the new MIC 2 from Dji there is a good reason to go for the newer camera. That is if you need those features.
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    Both cameras are in FULL AUTO mode the whole time. 4K 60fps. Just like the cameras come out of the box. People can change and debate how different settings affect the image on both but this is how most users will end up using these cameras for motovlogging so I made the comparison in auto setting mode.
    Watch this before buying the 'big sensor' hype of the new Osmo Action 4. Watch the video to the end and then decide if you really need the upgrade or not.
    The real world differences are pretty minor even though the reviews online are hyping it to the moon with all the "bigger sensor size" talk...
    The only reason I worth upgrading to the 4 is the external mic levels control. If you need a wired mic level control then buy the 4.
    This video you can see me use both cameras back and forth: • Yamaha Tenere 700 Verd...
    New camera is in the chin mount and old one on he windscreen filming me.
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  • @danzuelch
    @danzuelch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Action 3 owner here.....by far the best and most unbiased review of the Action 4. Very nice comparison. Thank you very much!

  • @CitizenJane-
    @CitizenJane- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Buying the now cheaper 3 means more money left for a few key accessories. Your visual awareness is exceptional. Not everyone has that 'eye' but you do. Your examples were excellent, without being boring. And those cycleways!! Fantastic!!

  • @toniantonio5955
    @toniantonio5955 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    very nice review sir. cant decide first which dji action cam to buy 3 or 4 model, now i will go for 3 and also saves me money. from philippines.

  • @BryGuy418
    @BryGuy418 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to make this!

  • @flyinghorsedrone5376
    @flyinghorsedrone5376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best comparisons of two products I 've seen. The method you use to attach the cameras, gives a very good real time comparison. Great work!
    Question; what microphone are you using while filming? Thank you

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Here I still used the DJI Wireless mic 1. Now I have the new mic 2 on some of the newest videos on my channel and it seems to work pretty nicely. Also retaining the waterproofness of the osmo action 4 as it doesn't need any receiver to be plugged in the usb-c port.

  • @NewbergTeardropRentals
    @NewbergTeardropRentals 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    such a helpful comparison -- thank you!

  • @thesupermegagood
    @thesupermegagood 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for a very informative and useful video!
    Are the lenses on the lens interchangeable on 3 and 4 Action? Thank you in advance

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes they are!

  • @gattopoldo
    @gattopoldo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OUSTANDING !!! Best review I have seen. Keep up the good work!

  • @BriKinsella
    @BriKinsella 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An excellent video thank you! Being a fellow motorcyclist considering these two cameras you have confirmed that for what I need the 3 will be more than adequate 👍🏼

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very welcome! It's probably true for most users. The old model is very nice.

  •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video!!! Thanks for doing that! I’m sticking with the OA3 for the time being.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good choice! 😁 Thanks for commenting!

  • @mmroaming2508
    @mmroaming2508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome, very honest review, not biased at all ❤

  • @eduardoromero5044
    @eduardoromero5044 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because I like how the 3 saturates the colors I got the 3 recently, nice video there, and the entire place there looks amazing to get some vids.. well done.

  • @casualridingtv
    @casualridingtv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this review! Question, were you using automatic on all settings? No changes made on iso/shutter speed etc...

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Auto settings on both

  • @19sloper
    @19sloper หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job. Practical, useful information. Thanks!

  • @TBSL71
    @TBSL71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant real world review. Very helpful, thank you.

  • @alexxfaur8239
    @alexxfaur8239 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a very good and Helpful review! Made my mind now. Good job

  • @TheProCut17
    @TheProCut17 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great comparison, thanks for this. I purchased the action4 as an upgrade from my hero8 after having issues with a hero11.
    sweet T7

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep I swapped to DJI after years of struggling with the gopro cameras. No looking back! :)

  • @Ruben.Pueyo.Bernini
    @Ruben.Pueyo.Bernini 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very honest comparison! Cheers from Argentina 🇦🇷

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! 🙂✌️

  • @jetmuchacho
    @jetmuchacho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best review out there, thanks for making it. To me it looks like the fast moving parts look cleaner with the OA4, which is great for off roaders. The most annoying thing to me about previous cameras is the way all the ruts, rocks, and roots on the trail ahead just look like nothing from the compression and motion blur. Interesting about the night footage. Looks like the OA4 increased noise filter, lower ISO, and lower Shutter speed. You could likely reverse those settings to match or exceed the look of the OA3, if you really wanted to. For me nowadays I just shoot in Auto and I don't think I've ever filmed with an action cam at night. So for a mere $50 price difference here in Canada, the OA4 is a no brainer based on what I've seen here.

  • @graemeshaw9716
    @graemeshaw9716 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good work on this video. Thankyou.

  • @Icelandlover
    @Icelandlover 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks to you I am keeping my OA3 and saving a few bucks! Thanks so much!

  • @AudioClipsbyGreg
    @AudioClipsbyGreg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent honest content. Valuable and to the point. Thanks.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that!

  • @gco2075
    @gco2075 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think 99% of TH-camrs out there should learn from you how to make a proper review and comparison, short and to the point instead of 30 minutes of bla bla about specs and form factors. Thanks a lot. Will buy action 3. 👍 Keep up the good work!

  • @idontcareproductions
    @idontcareproductions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I picked this camera up mostly because I needed the abilities of the 3 but with in lower light (less noise). Also the LOG shooting is way better for post grading cinematic colors.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True. Making your own corrections from log can result in some nice footage from both cameras.
      This is not made to bash either camera and I will happily use both on my videos. But considering the insane amount of release hype that is mostly just sponsored content I don't think this is a massive upgrade. Very gradual improvement on an already great camera :) ... and I think DJI has some work to do with the default processing.

  • @bryanjames3247
    @bryanjames3247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! I'm getting a 2ndhand Action 3 thanks to your vid.

  • @LCARSADV
    @LCARSADV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent test! Thank you!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure! 😄

  • @georgios9384
    @georgios9384 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We are lucky there are people like you making unbiased and in-depth reviews like that one, thank you so much! 🙏

  • @XXu-vf3bz
    @XXu-vf3bz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks mate! This test was spot on - it's the real world daily use case. I mean, who the heck use manual mode and Dlog on a action camera, gyroflow stabilization and then color grade + denoise in post anyway? Fully automatic mode with normal color + rocksteady is the way to go!
    I just extended my DJI care on launch day Action 3 to three years, that means four years warranty if no fall or crash. Any accidental damage to the camera will only cost me 15 bucks. DJI care is all the reason I choose osmo action over GoPros anyday.
    From where I live there are hundreds of Action 3 sellers listing everyday. Some are listed at half price of brand new Action 4. Could just buy an used Action 3 with DJI care, smash on walls or drop off bridge and pay $15 to get a refurb unit from DJI - you can't go wrong for that price anyway.

    • @XXu-vf3bz
      @XXu-vf3bz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference was deffo not significant enough to convince me to sell OA3 cheap and buy OA4 at full price. When using action cameras to film, you already give up on image quality anyway.
      I will keep my OA3 and upgrade to iPhone 15 Pro max or ultra or whatever Tim names the phone for use cases that demands image quality over stabilization.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely better deal to get 2 action 3's :D

  • @wandomer
    @wandomer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks was very confused which to buy as this will be my first action camera

  • @talithagalle2908
    @talithagalle2908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this review! I've been looking at the Insta360 Ace (Pro) but to get those as my first action camera, I do think those are expensive. I'll probably buy the Action 3 as I do like the colors more there. I do have one question as a first time action camera buyer, with insta360 you have the Insta360 app, is there an app for DJI as well or is it easy to edit the videos? I'm going to the jungle in a few months so I don't want messy videos of that once in a lifetime moment 🙈 thanks in advance ☺️

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is an app called ”DJI mimo” that has an editor function also. I never use it as I edit my videos with final cut pro but searching dji mimo editor you can probably check how it works.
      I like DJI as the app is optional. I always just transfer my files using a card reader and I like that DJI files are readable without first taking them in to the app.
      Some Insta cameras require user to use the app first to download videos and then export the files and my experience with my insta360 go2 is that the app is very buggy and fails to export files very often.
      DJI is reliable and thats what I like the most! 🙂 hope this helps

  • @andrewah15
    @andrewah15 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for sharing your video. I received a new Action 3 camera last week then the Action 4 was released. I’m going to stick with the Action 3 as I’m pretty impressed with it’s features and the app. Might be because it’s the first time I’ve bought an action camera.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good choice! It is still a very good camera. I would not hesitate to use it as my main shooter for another year. Safe filming!

  • @mgd4622
    @mgd4622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank for the comparison. Great video

  • @Alexander5R
    @Alexander5R 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, I suspected what you confirmed. I got the Action 3 Adventure pack almost half the price of the Action 4 Adventure pack. Thanks!

  • @TheINFP_Diary
    @TheINFP_Diary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just subscribed, AWESOME content, thank you❤

  • @Viral-Boss
    @Viral-Boss 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Geat and honest review. I heard the Action 5 might be released this August. I'll just wait a few months instead of getting the Action 4.

  • @roundingrubber
    @roundingrubber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a good comparison. Thanks for the effort.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Janggut40
    @Janggut40 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much. I take your suggestion.

  • @andreasbjarntoft979
    @andreasbjarntoft979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison - thanks!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! 🙏

  • @Turbobaltiec
    @Turbobaltiec 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bravo! Tusind Tak for this best ever comparison. You just convinced me to buy my first DJI Osmo camera, which going to be Nr.3. Well done!

  • @yogowong
    @yogowong 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheers from Sydney. Youve nailed the niche when you said to only review the fast moving pace shots and not the vlog style shots 😂. Im glad you did the same street at night. Theres a few more frames on colours and blurs that I could see are better in OA3 than OA4. Overall I thoroughly enjoyed this - I have my own OA3 and it’s THE BEST action camera I’ve ever invested in 🎉

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same for me. Software alone is GREAT :)

  • @thegrumpygamer3081
    @thegrumpygamer3081 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video I have been waiting for, a non paid/sponsored one. The only action cam I own is a cheap Akaso type one so I have been looking to upgrade for a while, I do not want to go the GoPro route for several reasons, need a media mod, overheating, crashing etc. I think based on this video I will get the 4 as quite a bit of what I use it for is lowlight, evening scenes when travelling. Thanks once again for the video and helping me make my mind up.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fantastic to hear I could help! Can't go wrong in either option and the 4 will probably get a lot of updates in the coming months that might improve the camera.
      For low light scenes I would probably go for the new one too even though I don't like the shutter speed and too much noise cancellation by default. The noise cancelation can be adjusted in the custom menu though.

  • @ryanstewart7725
    @ryanstewart7725 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful, thanks a lot!

  • @gaanznormaal2122
    @gaanznormaal2122 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best Test ever for the 3 and 4! Thanks for it.

  • @mad082sss
    @mad082sss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The difference at night was interesting. I liked how much better the 4 looked when being lit by your headlight, but the buildings looked prettier on the 3 when lit up with their own lights.
    I'm in the market for an action camera (my first one), so I'm holding off for a few weeks to see what happens with the new model from a certain other brand that should be released next month. Unless it is drastically better than the current models I will be choosing between the older models from either brand (and hoping some of them come on sale once the new one is released and shops want to clear out old stock - some shops here in Australia still have stock of the hero 9).

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If I can give you one advice it is not to buy the hero 9. Probably the worst software on a gopro camera ever and they do not fix the issues with updates. I owned one for years and it was very bad the whole time. One update even completely bricked the camera and gopro blamed it on my memory card. EVEN though gopro's own forums had multiple users with the same issues complaining about it.
      Gopro has lost all the credibility of software and customer support in my eyes.
      Can't say anything about the newest models but I have read online by multiple accounts that they still keep freezing and you need to take the battery out all the time.

    • @mad082sss
      @mad082sss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @PatchedBandit thanks for the advice. I wasn't really that keen on a 9, was more thinking a 10 or 11. The 10 is $30 more than the action 3 here, and now that GP has reduced the price of the 11, it's only $20 more than the action 4 is. It's just hard to find good footage shot on an action 3 to compare. I'll have to check out more of you videos

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All of my videos for the last 8 months the main helmet camera is the Action 3. Lot's of content to shift through :)

    • @thesoutherndistance
      @thesoutherndistance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if the OA4, with a touch of negative EV, would expose the same as the OA3 and look about the same at night, including closer shutter speed.

    • @thesupermegagood
      @thesupermegagood 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mad082sss only my experience: I abandoned GP10 in favor of Action 3 because of the unnatural plasticine color and insufficient sharpness. Formally, the resolution of the GP10 is slightly higher, but it has a narrower angle and in the "no sharpness" mode everything looked blurred, and in the standard ("normal") mode, aggressive sharping was pretty terrible. In addition, GP10 lives much less from one battery and is much more heated. I didn't have GP11 for long and liked it a little more than GP10, but I still stayed with Action 3.
      By the way, I find the new Action 4 attractive, I like the dynamic sharpness in it most of all - judging by the reviews and thanks to the author of this video, I have the confidence that it is higher here than on Action 3 )

  • @Bikepacking
    @Bikepacking 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One question what about color profile what the different

  • @d5h4rp
    @d5h4rp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nicely shown comparison between the newest and the older model :) but I wonder, maybe it was just the settings making the footage more blurred in low light scenarios? still a valid point, even if it was just full-auto out of the box settings.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both in full auto. Like 99.9% of people use them. Some settings can be adjusted of course but most motovloggers dont do scene by scene asjusting like pro filmmakers so this is why I made this with everything on normal.

  • @villeturkkinen
    @villeturkkinen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just the review I needed! Kiitos!

  • @pommiegranite464
    @pommiegranite464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review, some important points made.

  • @beardedbobber
    @beardedbobber 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and useful , I’m a loyal OA3 user and previously OA1 fellow moth logger. Your video just saved me a decision 👍🏼👍🏼. Greetings from Scotland

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad I could help!

  • @RussellDossett
    @RussellDossett 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video thanks for uploading this I think I go for the 3 I’ve got the original one so time for update 👍🏻

  • @AbsolutSmokeMachine
    @AbsolutSmokeMachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought 2 weeks ago Action 3. I will keep it

  • @TexCynRVLife
    @TexCynRVLife 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the AO1, needed another camera for different view locations. Debated over the 3 vs 4, but got a good deal on an adventure pack with the 3, which yes, allowed me to purchase extra accessories as well.
    I really do not like the lens flares on the 4 from sun, lights, etc.
    Bought my 3 around September of last year, but am now getting more familiar with it.
    Thank you for the comparisons.
    👍📸

  • @effuseakay
    @effuseakay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video mate! I bought the Action 3 a couple of months before the 4 came out and was annoyed by how much better the new one looks on paper. The two things ill miss are prerecording and compatibility with the mic2 but meh, nothing to write home about as you say :)
    Quick question though, what kind of mount do you use on your helmet? Any tips on that? That's one thing that scares me.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use "chinmounts" products on all my helmets and I've been happy with them for the most part. On my winter helmet I have glued it permanently on the helmet though as the 3M tape options do not stick well during winter months and freezing temperatures in Finland.
      On the summer helmet they have been fine with the provided tape though. I would still recommend heating up the tape a bit with some blower before sticking it on. Cleaning the surfaces and keeping pressure after attachment for at least 5 minutes. Also don't use the sticky the same day but give it time to adhere overnight.

  • @IkumaGames
    @IkumaGames 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Exellent side by side comparison and very informative commentary. Thanks for that! Overall a really great upgrade imho. Its a little big more expensive (ofcourse you can sometimes get the 3 in a sale now) but overall in most cases a better image especially for nighttime. You dont see that much more, but its much less noisy. For daytime action its not that much of a difference so yea some people might have a bennefit in buying the 3 in sale.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true. I would hope for a faster default shutter speeds at night though. Dont like if the video becomes too ”dreamy”. Bit of noise is not a problem for me :)

    • @IkumaGames
      @IkumaGames 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe they patch it later. The Sensor is bigger so theres not the need to for anything else but i think they wanted to picture to be brighter overall for better advertisement. But the feedback is there. I would like to have a bit darker image without the blur but the same lesser noisy picture. Maybe they let us adjust it soon. Anyway without rocksteady the image is not that bloomy so its only a software problem and might get fixed. :)@@PatchedBandit

  • @occipitalexposure5059
    @occipitalexposure5059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of the reasons I decided to upgrade was to finally be able to stop worrying about the out of focus close subjects. My Action 3 was manufactured after they supposedly fixed the issue, although I was still suspicious that the "fix" was achieved with sharpening rather than correcting the lens focus. Overall, I consider either Action to be a better choice than GoPro. I grew very tired of the glitchy touchscreen and intermittent freezing and power downs of the GoPro.

    • @neilwildy4192
      @neilwildy4192 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same scenario for me, my OA3 was supposedly after the fixing focus, but something was just not right. I have footage that I couldn't tell apart from my old Hero 5.
      I've got an OA4 and it noticeably better than the 3 in every day use, didn't even need to compare.
      Maybe I was unlucky with my OA3, but this OA4 is exceptional.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I haven't experienced this issue but I probably don't use the camera in a way where it would be apparent. I'm glad you see DJI fixed this problem with the new one.

    • @occipitalexposure5059
      @occipitalexposure5059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neilwildy4192 yes, there was a softness/muddiness to the footage, and again, this was in one of the newer manufactured OA3's. I've spent a week or so now with the OA4 and I have nothing negative to report. The touchscreen can be mildly finicky (although I have a tempered glass protector in place), but even with the protector, its better than the GoPro 11.

  • @NoaBD
    @NoaBD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very very help pull this video. Thanks.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome!

  • @abhimanyushekhawat2626
    @abhimanyushekhawat2626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great comparison on the bike. Thanks.

  • @michaelhall859
    @michaelhall859 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, coming from the original OA I'm definitely getting the OA4 as it is Def better than the 3

  • @enduromotorradtouren
    @enduromotorradtouren 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Got an Action 3. And a fitting headset for voice recording. Seems easy to use. Gotta try it out under the helmet on a ride - when the rain stops. Thanks for you comparison. Günter/Nürnberg

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope you enjoy it!

  • @DaDarthShow
    @DaDarthShow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How was the audio using usb mic installed inside helmet for MotoVlogging? Is it still clipping high audio until its unusable?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have not tried a direct mic yet. I use DJI wireless 2 mic set to record my audio.

    • @DaDarthShow
      @DaDarthShow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PatchedBandit i hope you can make a video about it, that is the main reason for me to switch to Action 4... Because in Action 3 the only way that i can make my audio usable is to use my rode wireless go 2, which is not ok to use on a foggy it a little rainy situation, Thank you!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DaDarthShow I just got the boya adapter that I could use to test this. I should probably try and make a full audio episode.
      I swear by using 2 mics on me for best results. Sometimes I have forgotten to put the setup in dual channel mode but other than that I have gotten my sound pretty nice :)

    • @MOTOUK1
      @MOTOUK1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use the new adapter trick is their DJI lav mic best I have ever tested check out my channel you can tell

  • @Zombiefruit
    @Zombiefruit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. I assume there's more detail in the ground in many day time shots because the larger sensor, gathering more light, allows a higher framerate. Night tests should have been done with normalization (same shutter speed and ISO) for a real test of the sensor and software denoising changes. But then again, most of us aren't going to be setting manual exposure and for practical usage it's better to test the automatic handling of different scenarios.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, exactly. I wanted to show the cameras as they are with everything in autopilot because most motovloggers are not going to fiddle with the settings scene by scene.
      This was mostly a motovlogger test. I still use both of them on most of my shoots and after owning all the big brands I firmly believe DJI makes the best actioncameras on the market today. Ease of use and reliability are key factors for me.

  • @theodorstravels
    @theodorstravels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good comparison. When I have seen comparisons with the latest gopro, it has always seemed to me, that Action 4 overexposes some stuff. But seen like this, it does not seem bad at all. Is there a way to drop the exposure like one step or half step?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. You can drop it by exposure steps of 0.3 so I wouldn’t worry about that much. Also I believe one of the latest firmware upgrades adressed an issue like this too. Check out the changelogs.

  • @JaredDoyle76
    @JaredDoyle76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping to see a higher resolution sensor on the Action 4 because I tend to use my Action 3 for stills.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True. Gopro wins with the resolution part. Would also be nice to have some cropping room on video.

  • @MrNAMASTE1968
    @MrNAMASTE1968 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. I have the action 3 and i feel with very minor adjustments, there would be almost no difference the 3 and 4.

  • @kentuckyadv
    @kentuckyadv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this comparison. I'm in the market to replace my GoPro Hero 5 Black with either the DJI Action 3 or 4 for my motovlog. I have yet to decide, but I'm leaning toward the 3 primarily due to the difference in cost. Thankfully, I only have a little invested in my GoPro setup, and my mic should work with the DJI. I'll probably watch this a few more times. I appreciate your time and effort in this comparison; it benefits me.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad to help! I own the Hero 5 and it is probably one of the last Gopro's that still had stable software. You are taking a huge leap in image guality with either one of these cameras. Gopro hero 5 is starting to look really dated.
      Extra tip: If you are looking for wireless mic setups to go with the osmo action I would wait just a bit for DJI to release the "dji wireless mic 2".. I'm thinking it might come in a few days/weeks time.
      Other than that both of these support external mics but the Osmo 4 also has gain control for wired microphones that the OA3 is missing.
      Good filming!

  • @GianpaoloLaPaglia
    @GianpaoloLaPaglia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good review, keep it up!!!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Jezza364
    @Jezza364 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still use the first osmo action on my motorcycle and footage in 4k is good. However i have been looking to upgrade as i would like a wider lense. Have been looking at OA3 and OA4 but i dont see much difference to justify paying more for the OA4. Think i will buy the 3. Thanks for your video.

  • @TravelingAhn
    @TravelingAhn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative!

  • @ravindraseneviratne8850
    @ravindraseneviratne8850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing your honest opinion. Your comparison with the newly released Osmo Action 4.
    I see OA3 is doing exceptionally well.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! :) It is still a very competent camera!

  • @KayakFishingAddict
    @KayakFishingAddict 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice comparison. Did you try DLOG-M 10-bit vs DCinelike? If you have the OA3 you should only upgrade if you want (1) better low light...the night scenes were much better light and the motion blur was natural so the shutter speed was better set to 180* of the frame rate, (2) need the USB-C audio fixes in the OA4, (3) want DLOG-M, or (4) need a remote that works multiple cameras.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only compared the default modes that most people use. Log comparison would be a bit more complex to do with grading headroom tests etc. I'm not really a tech channel and they do a good job with those already :)
      I got so excited with the remote option but then disappointed because it can't wake up camera from sleep mode. This is a huge hit for battery life as everything needs to be powered on at all times.

    • @KayakFishingAddict
      @KayakFishingAddict 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatchedBandit when I use a remote I externally power the cameras. Is there any way to turn off the power saving mode?

  • @HelloDarkness-ox5km
    @HelloDarkness-ox5km หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome comparison.! Congratulation, I'm yours now!

  • @ioandragulescu6063
    @ioandragulescu6063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am currently looking at these two and about to get my 1st action cam to record my moto rides and the action 4 is compatible now, after the last firmware update, with the DJI mic2 (whenever it gets released separately ...) directly, without needing a receiver, and that is a big plus from my point of view. Maybe DJI will update the action 3 also but ... maybe not.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably not for the older model. Also there is a bug in the oa4+mic too. Watch the newest vid.

  • @mignaton1957
    @mignaton1957 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job, j'ai la 4, je vais rester sur auto, mais en D log M, pour retouche vidéo.

  • @ramonedixon
    @ramonedixon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great of you to take the time to make this comparison video. Sharing the settings of each action camera would have been helpful for total beginners as when you say things like "there is much more motion blur in the new picture than there is in the old action 3" at 10:53 doesn't really explain how motion blur is attained on an action camera, or on cameras in general. Rocksteady 4K 60fps with a shutter speed of 1/50 will look very different compared to a shutter speed of 1/120 or even 1/200, let alone a high or low ISO when dealing with blown out highlights. But manual settings versus auto exposure settings which is what I assume you have on both OAC 3 & 4 is really where the discussion of 'which model of Osmo Action Camera is better when trying to get a great image’ should be where the conversation is lead from.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like stated in the video both cameras are on "full auto" mode. Only setting that is locked is 60fps and 4K.
      The reason for this is that 99% of motovloggers will always choose to use automatic settings. Motovloggers rarely pick and choose settings for every scene individually as scenes change rapidly during a ride.
      But I understand the need for a more in depth video but there are other videos on TH-cam for an in depth tutorial and/or review of these cameras.
      This is to show that for most users during normal lighting conditions the difference is miniscule and that each camera will pick a slightly different look especially on darker scenes. I suspect DJI did this to enhance the 'big sensor' promotion of the newer camera.
      Slowing down the shutterspeeds and adding more noise removal in auto settings.

    • @ramonedixon
      @ramonedixon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatchedBandit Correct me if I’m wrong and feel free to time stamp where “full auto mode” is mentioned because I don’t actually think it is stated in the video, I say this only because total beginners may not get the full picture of the what and how when trying to understand certain terms when spoken about. But anyway, thanks again for taking the time to make the comparison and for explaining how automotive shooters operate action cameras, it’s good to know how everyone in different genres and not just walking vloggers use their action cameras to its full potential to get the best results.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I added a more clear information to the description now.

  • @theoccasionalbiker7732
    @theoccasionalbiker7732 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent comparison. Thanks.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!

  • @uralicdneprov1806
    @uralicdneprov1806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm newbie considering OA4 for my first camera. Intended for helmet mounted recording of my TET adventures. How do you charge battery(es) on long trips, like going TET?
    DJI says OA4 battery lasts for 2.5 hours of recording. Even when you are recording half of the time, you need 3 or 4 batteries a day. (Assuming you need 10h of raw footage to make 1 hour of final cut video). At the end of the day you sleep in a tent without electric plug. I use to camp outdoors on a trail for a week straight.
    The best solution would be a 12V powered waterproof battery charger and just keep swapping two batteries. DJI offers adventure pack with 3 batteries and a charger that is not waterproof and per customer report it dies when it gets wet. So it can't be used to charge batteries on the run. It may survive charging overnight, but 3 batteries combined with a phone have enough capacity to drain your motorbike battery flat. For sure if you have a light weight LiFePo battery. So that's not a good idea either.
    I can't find good charging solution on Internet.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will be short on my phone but here goes..
      1. You learn pretty quick that you dont want 10h or raw video to edit. Too much work and too much pointless ’empty video’. So record here and there 5-15 minute bits and cut down hard at home. Most tet videos are not worth a full hour in my opinion. Mine included.
      2. Always charge devices while riding from a motorcycle outlet. Usb somewhere near and cable to tankbag is my solution. You can charge multiple batteries mid ride and mever have a problem with batteries.
      3. One DJI battery lasts me a full day of riding as I dont record constantly. Quickstart if there is something interesting happening. Other than that just a clip there clip here … combo has 3 batteries so those should last around 3 days. When you charge while riding you will never run out.

  • @jimthorleydronefootage
    @jimthorleydronefootage หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great testing, my friend. I have the 3 and was thinking of getting the 4, but it's not a big difference. It's very minor, in fact, thank you. I will just stick with the 3 it's a very capable camera 👍

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree. Picture quality is not a good enough reason to upgrade in my opinion. Some even prefer the processing on the older model.

  • @rodrigooliveira6843
    @rodrigooliveira6843 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video bro! You got a new subscriber.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Appreciate it! I am mainly a motorcycle channel though so you are warned 😅

  • @tgt-by-altero
    @tgt-by-altero 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for such a nice comparison. I think at night footage it was not the difference in motion blur but in noise reduction. It would be interesting to repeat this test with noise reduction settings on the lowest and in 10-bit D-Log mode. I think this is where Action 4 will shine.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Most people buying these will only use default modes and thats what I tried to show here.
      Tech channels will hopefully do a more in depth comparisons of log and other modes soon.
      The release day videos were such a disappointment to me so I released this real life side to side with default settings the moment I got the camera in my hand.
      I mostly do motorcycle content 🙂

    • @tgt-by-altero
      @tgt-by-altero 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatchedBandit Yes, you are right! Default settings are for common scenarios and normal use. But your scenario is far from common and I guess you should put some effort in changing settings. It would be nice to show the best results that you can get from this camera. I like Action 4 for its flexibility and extensive options in settings. Anyway, you did a great job by making this video. Thank you!

  • @TheDroneDad
    @TheDroneDad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't have the Action 3, so Action 4 is really good for me. I bought it as an addition to my gear, not a replacement. Also have the GoPro Hero 10, a DJI Pocket 2, and an Insta360 X3. I feel like I now have a very well rounded set and can handle about anything, with multiple camera angles, while keeping the gear bag small and portable.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing! I added the 4 to accompany my 3 aswell. Both in good use going forward :)

    • @FORTRANWW
      @FORTRANWW 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is the point of the Hero 10 when you own the A4?

  • @PureEvolution
    @PureEvolution 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i upgraded to the Action 4 from a hero 8 so its was good upgrade as looking at the hero 11 but with there issues i wanted to try DJI for a change

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good pick for sure

  • @talpiotATprotonmailDOTcom
    @talpiotATprotonmailDOTcom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one. Helpful.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it helped

    • @talpiotATprotonmailDOTcom
      @talpiotATprotonmailDOTcom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatchedBandit It was simple and straightforward to the point with self evident comparisons. Appreciated.

  • @rahulpawar9036
    @rahulpawar9036 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apart from setting which you shown in the video is with AUTO mode like Shutter speed and ISO ?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shutter speed can not be adjusted and ISO is 100-12800 on both. Exposure: auto with 0 compensation.

  • @Nostrada-mus
    @Nostrada-mus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of the issues you mentioned have been fixed by the most recent framework update.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope that is true. I havent tested the camera in low light rescently but I will do many times now that I start riding offroad in finnish winter.
      Still daytime I don't see any noticeable difference between these cameras.
      My newest long video was shot with the 3 and 4 flipping back and forth. 4 is still less saturated but that's about it.

  • @AlexandreeSantoss
    @AlexandreeSantoss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’d say if you don’t own an Action 3, it safe to say the Action 4 would be a good purchase. If you own an Action 3, it’s up to you if the new upgrades are enough. I’m coming from an Action 2, and I’m definitely upgrading, receiving my Action 4 today, super excited!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true! Most likely DJI will improve some of the 'problems' with updates later too.. I hope..

    • @AlexandreeSantoss
      @AlexandreeSantoss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PatchedBandit they’ll do definitely, just like they did with Action 3. That camera was a disaster at the start, but look at where it is now! So hopefully the Action 4 gets the same treatment throughout the next weeks/months 🤩

    • @artmiranda8085
      @artmiranda8085 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im more into the video quality but the price right now on the 3 is $279 vs $399 on the 4. Will be probably go with action 3.

  • @ocd2222
    @ocd2222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it'd be awesome to see a comparison with action 2 because it didnt have the focus issue

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most if not all actioncameras have a close focus issue as these things are ”infinity focused”. Close focus filters are available for vlogging though.

  • @nickvandop5359
    @nickvandop5359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is your shutterspeed and iso at for both camera's? do u leave it on auto? my footage gets very blurry with rock steady

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Full auto. Check the description.

  • @eddyg1794
    @eddyg1794 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If noise in the image of the action 3 bothers anyone you could always run it through a denoise routine in post correct?

  • @DigiDriftZone
    @DigiDriftZone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No crushed shadows, no crushed highlights, correctly exposed skies, massive improvement in low light, the hype is real, shut up and take my money! Mine should arrive on Wed :)

    • @firstlast-pt5pp
      @firstlast-pt5pp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Action 3 has HDR video but only at 30 fps. Along with some multi-frame artifacts, you do see more ( 10bit color + image enhancement are on by default).

  • @lehtravelwithsatya
    @lehtravelwithsatya หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u... i go for action 3...

  • @Ivy12452
    @Ivy12452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, excellent review, but of course i have question. Im considering buying my first action camer. I'm torned between OA3 -250€ vs OA4 329€. What would you choose if it would be your first action camera? My main thing is to film motorcycle journey and filming holidays for my familly. Thx.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you want to use external microphone buy the 4. But if you just use the internal mic of the camera 3 is almost the same in my opinion.
      The price difference being that small I would advice to buy the newer 4 so you have more options to add wireless mic later.

    • @Ivy12452
      @Ivy12452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much for all videos and for quick answear. You got new subscriber!👍

  • @MOTOUK1
    @MOTOUK1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m using the Osmo 4 adapter key is also to use their DJI lav mic and the quality is better imo than using the wireless mic 2

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Benefit of the wireless mic 2 is keeping the waterproof nature of the osmo action 4. Also pulling the 32Bit float from the mic should be the best quality of any alternative solution.
      Requires a bit of work but as the mic creates 1 to 1 internal audio recordings matching the amount of video recordings syncing in post is super easy.
      I'm gonna test the mic 2 in more detail when I get the time though. The first firmware was not great..

  • @PranabSharma
    @PranabSharma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very realistic comparison...thank you for the video

  • @robca9870
    @robca9870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do many vlogs and I'm disappointed with my Action 4 at night. I always use an external LED when the light conditions are not that good or when it's dark at night. With my previous Gopro 10 my face always looked pretty natural and detailed. Now with the Action 4 my face looks extremely soft / blurry without many details (a bit white even). And the LED points even right into my face. Any ideas how to get the same good quality for this situation with my Action 4?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing and confirming some of my findings too. First thing I would try is to put the camera in it's "pro mode" and turn down the noise reduction to -1 or -2.
      I have also turned down the sharpness to -1 as I don't like the digital over sharpened look of the default 0 setting.

  • @warlystrolltv4657
    @warlystrolltv4657 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is a bit advantage in night drive.But not necessary for moto vlog.The 3 is more clearer and appealing to the eye.The 4 gives a bit clearer in detail but darker.Very minimal thata viewer will not be able to notice..I suppose to buy 4 but 3 is still a good one and can save a little more.But it is a great review..Thanks!

  • @Ajay_Das90
    @Ajay_Das90 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome comparision bro..👍

  • @everyonehatesfrauditors765
    @everyonehatesfrauditors765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your efforts here - nice presentation - you have helped me make my decision - for the extra bit of cash - the 4 seems to be the one! My brace of Hero 8's have now gone red light of death and just out of warranty - so I'll not touch a gopro again.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad I could help!

  • @Jakepf
    @Jakepf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:20 I personally really like the saturation and brightness of the action 3, but I really dislike the over exposure and high contrast that loses detail in the action 3 as well. So overall the action 4 is great, but idk if I really need an action camera.

  • @anthonyr.hodgson9988
    @anthonyr.hodgson9988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll get the three. It’s on sale at Best Buy.