Beginners guide to starting the PMDG Boeing 737-800 from cold and dark in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- A beginners guide to starting the PMDG Boeing 737-800 from cold and dark in Microsoft Flight Simulator - following the functional steps required to get the aircraft up and running, to program a flight plan, and to take off.
Here's where you can find the checklist:
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Here's where you can find the checklist:
ko-fi.com/jonbeckett/shop
Yes now I do after writing it down I followed your URL and found your page of checklists
Are you going to add more ??
@@jayteeaitch yes - I write up the checklists for any moderately complex aircraft :)
It's not a massive issue at all, but rather I don't really think the FMC's data being out of date's an issue to do with not having a navigraph subscription (it could be maybe since not got the link software running right now, but I have a navigraph subscription and the FMC says its out of date lol.
Btw love your videos, you take things back to their basics which I really enjoy!
@@jonbeckett Just a quick question the last digits most but the very left digits on the GPS L and R aren't exactly the same, does that really matter at all, though its like one digit different lol.
@@jonbeckettit makes me pay money to get the checklist is that normal
I've watched a wide range of your videos over the last two months or so, and a large part of what I know about MSFS and flying is from you. I just bought the 787-800 and this video is imminently helpful, as always. Thanks!
Thank you! :)
Small tip, unless your first waypoint from take off is within 5 degrees of the runway, LNAV will not be available on the ground. Some pilots will insert a custom waypoint in line with the departure runway so they can engage it and let it manage lateral control sooner during climb outs. Can always head direct to the next original waypoint as planned via the FMC legs anytime. Great tutorial :)
i know nothing about planes at all but this got recommended to me so i clicked on it
Welcome to the channel :)
thanks jonathan!
Please could you tell me your specs and which monitor
I had literally been working on a lot of subjects like flight control, flight plan, nav aids, comm, approach plates etc. but they never end. You never feel like you are ready to fly this machine if you focus on them a lot. So, today I decided to take a shot and with your great tutorial I did my first take off with 737-700. Thanks a lot. As you said there are a lot of things on this plane to learn.
Thanks a lot for the good work!
You're welcome :)
Your videos really are the best ones out there for learning how to start up a "new" aircraft! Most others are just way to quick, but the way you explain and take it slow just makes it that much easier to understand. So far i've learned all four different ones that i fly from you.
New subscriber. Just purchased the the PMDG 737-800 and looking forward to following through with your startup video. Been flying MS Flight Sim since MS Flight Sim 2.0 in the 80s
9 months after you put this out and I have only just found the need for it! I’m grateful it was here. A great tutorial - thank you 👍🏻🍻
You're welcome :)
THANKS I WAS SO CLOSE TO REFUNDING THE PLANE 🙌🙌🙌
Hey, awesome tutorial there! 😁 There are a few things you forgot to mention though:
1. You didn't mention that you have to turn on the strobe lights before starting to taxi.
2. Another thing is the auto brake setting which has to be put to "RTO" before take-off which you left on the "OFF" setting.
3. The landing lights have to be turned on when you enter the runway and need to be switched off once you passed 10000 feet.
4. Following that, the baro setting needs to be set to "STD" once you passed the aforementioned 10000 feet.
5. You said it in the video but just to add it, the TCAS needs to be switched to "TA/RA" before take-off.
You surely know all of these points but I thought I'd mention these here for next time. Other than that, really well made and easy to understand tutorial. 🙂
This was a purposely shortened procedure that doesn't include everything a real crew would do - I state that several times.
You're actually wrong about a couple of things. Strobes don't go on until you're on the runway in the real world. The last thing aircraft taxiing or ground crew need is to be blinded. Barometric pressure is set to STD as you pass through the transition level - not 10,000ft. The transition level varies all over the world.
@@jonbeckett Right, no problem. As I said, it's all good, just wanted to mention these few things.
And also, thanks for the insight, seems like I got it wrong regarding the strobe lights and the baro pressure. Now I know it better, I'm still learning all the procedures flight by flight 🤓
mate strobe lights go on when you are waiting to get cleared for take off and you need to have auto brakes on max bafoooooon
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the tutorial. One of the best. Not in a hurry but quiet and clear. In that way it is 100% understandable. Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
Thank you Jonathan, excellent tutorial. Got me flying at the first attempt. Very clear and succinct. Now I'm off to watch your tutorial about landing the aircraft.
You're welcome :)
I dont have MSF, but have gone through FSX and now P3Dv4.5 . Judging by the amount of videos out now, on the PMDG 737 -800, It looks like an awful lot of people are just starting up in Flight sim. There have been hundreds of videos and discussions, on the PMDG 737-800 from start-up to shut down and all its iterations for years. So I find it slightly amusing, that a lot of people have missed out the fun and learning part of this aircraft. Have fun !
I don't quite understand why so many people held back until the 800 was released - the other Boeing 737 models are functionally identical. It is nice to see so many newcomers though.
Excellent tutorial, very well explained. Yes cold and dark is the best way to learn the systems. Laborious for some office chair pilots, but it does offer immersion, it’s a good habit to acquire. I always enjoy the simplicity slant of your tutorials. Much appreciated, keep up the good work. Very good channel.
Glad it was helpful!
thank you for the great tutorial, managed to get my first successful flight completed with no issues. thanks again :)
The best explanations and demonstrations anywhere. Thank you!
Cheers!
Best video hands down Jonathan, thank you!!
Best video on PMDG 737-800. Simple and very rich of info!
Thank you! :)
This plane is absolutly fantastic. I bought it this week and it is soo fun to fly. Youre tutorial helpes perfectly and I could excactly lern how to set up this plane. Thank you verry much :)
Glad I could help!
very helpful thanks alot ❤
Thanks for the run through. Just wanted to mention it is recommended to use LVL CHG for climbs to prevent the risk of slowing too much which can happen with a climb in v speed. V speed is better for descents where you care more about not descending too quickly for passenger comfort and to arrive well timed at altitudes along the waypoints down.
Absolutely. Quite often in my videos I might choose a mode to show that it's there, and how it works. If you use the more automated modes such as FLC, there's nothing to talk about :)
@@jonbeckett Well there is everything to talk about in that particular information u gave to use V/S while climbing. Its just not about automated modes. While u were explaining u had no clue why the aircraft would not go to your set speed of 220 while climbing at a V/S of +2500. "probably something wrong with my throttle". Well mate if u are gonna give out wrong information like that and not correct it when someone points it out then that says a lot. People are gonna follow this and start putting in high V/S for climb with low speeds and the speed keeps bleeding off to a point where the aircraft stalls and just falls off head down to the ground and they'll be left nothing but a lot of questions again. I was hoping someone pointed this out in the comments and there u were with a smart reply not even trying to analyse if whatever u said in ur video is right. Well its been 7 months since u made this video I am sure u would have known this by now.
I REALLY LOVED IT... I FLY A LOT WITH THE A320, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. THROUGH YOU WE SUCCESS
Wow this seems so hard I already play a game called Pilot flight training simulator this game is super complicated with all these buttons thanks for the tutorial🎉
Thanks so much I thought I wasted my money but this plane is fun thank you so much
Keep at it :)
Magic, mate. Needed an in depth tutorial like this. Cheers!
You're welcome :)
Great Video, thank you for that! 😃 You explained every button and function so well and yet compact - love that!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Had no idea about that menu button, saved me a lot of aggravation 😆
Yep - it's a bit of a hidden "feature" :)
Well you answered my question i asked in your other video haha. Awesome
thanks Johnathan I'm still fairly new to msfs and your videos have helped a lot :)
Great video. Really helped be. Although I would have loved to have seen the full flight.
Best tutorial on starting up
Glad it helped
WOW! You have explained all that really well. THANK YOU!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Lovely video. I think I bit of systems and auto flight knowledge might help you operate the-800..
I didn't show it in this video, but I know the Boeing 73 series very well. I regularly fly it for group flights with ATC (which are not on this channel). I have recorded a number of videos showing some of the deep and dark depths of the FMC programming - doing things like custom waypoints, abeam waypoints, parallel tracks, and so on. Don't presume people don't know things based on one video :)
@@jonbeckett dark depths is spot on haha.
Sorry. I think I was being ornery. Sorry if I was bit harsh. We’re flying we a lot of low time pilots to this category airplane and it’s helped me to even more about the depths of the FMC and systems.
I’ve flown the 737 for a bit now and actually love it. I mean i loved the A320 more but alas I fly what they tell me. Your content is very good!!!
Brilliant Jonathan! Thank you!
Excellent video. You explain things well. I'm not an airline lover. I don't enjoy programing all the info before you take off. That said, the best value is the 737-600 at $35. That would be the model I'd purchase.
Me too. I thing PMDG are ripping everybody off quite badly.
Thanks for the tutorial
Very insightful and knowledgable thank you!
thank you so much! i love this aircraft and flying this
Thanks for the great explanation..
Dobra robota, pomogłeś ogarnąć mi 737 ;) dziękuję bardzo.
Just wanted to give you a HUGE thank you, I got the 737 last night, I watched tons and tons of videos of starting it up and stuff and none of them made sense to me. Then I watched our video and I got it right away! Thanks for making these tutorials so easy to understand. Thank you!
You're welcome :)
I have always faced a problem with these planes when going from cold and dark, in which at certain altitude I get a cabin warning and I remember it had to do with the packs panel and pressure, not really sure, but I will follow your steps and give it a try. Thank you for this awesome video..
If you don't switch the packs on, you don't pressurise the cabin - or heat it. If you switch the packs on BEFORE starting the engines, you won't be able to start the engines.
I would like to see how to set the airbus quadrant. I'm flying this 737-800 with them. Thanks
Hi, whenever I do a flight LNAV doesn't work. I take off and then try to activate LNAV but it just flickers and then turns off. I've also tried activating it on the ground it still doesn't work. Do you know how to fix this?
LNAV generally needs a flight plan without discontinuities, flight directors on, and the IRS system aligned and ready-to-go.
Thank you so much, now I gotta learn this to then add more to the checklist ( testing stall warning, fire test, oxygen, etc. etc.)
If you're adding everything back in, you may as well use the real checklist - if you search online, you can find the pilot manual for the 737 for free download.
Excellent video - Thank You for sharing so much valuable information
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you soooooooo much for this! 🙏🏼😊
Jonathan, thank you very much, good tutorial.
This clears up so much thank you.
You're welcome :)
When you was turning the FD on and L-NAV my LNAV wasn’t turning just flashing green for a second then went off,
That means either the IRS hasn't aligned, or the FMS is not configured.
tnx man it was help full
Does anyone else have the issue where the pilot side pfd doesn’t show anything? The copilot does but not the pilot. I can’t see flight plan or anything
Could be something else interfering with it ? Or you've accidentally turned the brightness down on the pilot side ?
super introduction 👍 thx a lot and happy flights 🛫
You're welcome :)
Awesome video as always. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the visit
Amazing video thanks Jonathan!
My pleasure!
Can you plis make a good toturial on how to make a flight plan and how to innput it on the boeing pmdg 737-800 pliiiiiiiiiis a need help.
Search my channel for 737 flight planning www.youtube.com/@jonbeckett/search?query=737%20flight%20plan
I have the PMDG 737-600. When I fire it up it says “Nav data out of date”. I did a flight from Las Vegas to Phoenix and it never found the VOR.Apparently the only way to solve this a monthly subscription to Navigraph. I don’t have that problem with the stock 747 in MSFS 2020.
The more accurate aircraft report the expiry date on the nav data :)
It’s been over a year and I’m still not able to start up the engines on this plane✈️ with these instructions. 😢
thanks mate your vids are very easy to follow
Glad you like them!
very nice and clear video John. p.s. I don't think the buzz at 22:10 was your USB. I think it was the T/O Config warning, as I saw the throttles moved without flaps/slats set!!
The USB causes the throttles to move.
@@jonbeckett oh dear!!!!!
Amazing, thank you!!
You're very welcome!
Whenever I spawn in some of the systems are already on and some people of them aren’t so it makes it harder for me to start it up pls someone help me 🙏
You can set the default start state in the FMC.
hey, when i first go enter the ir position from the fmc i dont see the (Set irs position section) why?
Did you start the plane already running?
Brilliant videos Jonathan, I have a question about cold and dark, If it's night time how the heck do you find the battery switch?
You use a torch :) quite literally, in real life and in the simulator! I think the shortcut key for this in fs2020 is Alt+L ✌
Thank you very much Sir 👍
All the best
when i go to set the trim it just goes wild and goes all the way up and i can’t stop it.
You must have the trim control configured wrong somewhere
@@jonbeckett i tried to find it but i didn’t really know where to look, i have my piloting settings on hard so that wouldn’t be it. also when i’m cruising autopilot doesn’t stay at the altitude i selected
@peterpickguitar i got it working a while back but thanks!
when I click load cold/dark and then execute all my systems shut down including the fmc and I can’t turn it back on
Hold the menu button on for a few seconds - the FMC will come back to life :)
@@jonbeckett thanks Jonathon!
Danke!
Thank you! :)
Do you not turn off the wing pumps after you're in the air?
For some reason I cant switch anything off or on in the pmdg 737-800
That sounds a bit odd. Power?
@@jonbeckett Like everything is working fine but like the switches
Just bought the 737 800. When I load into the simulator I just get a dead plane with the controls turned completed to the side and no ability to click on any buttons… any idea why?
That sounds very odd... Do other planes work ok? I've never had that happen. You might try unplugging you controllers, and plugging them back in. When you say you can't press any buttons, do you mean the mouse isn't interacting with anything, or the plane is just switched off? It could be just cold and dark - in which case you need to go into the FMC - hold down the MENU button for a few seconds - the FMC should power up - then go to the PMDG menu, and choose LOAD STATE - choose one, and press EXEC.
@@jonbeckett I did a test-install after removing the pmdg folder from the community folder. That did the trick. Sorry newbie problems :) now I’m trying to make the parking brake work
hey hello! Thank you so much for this was very clean! Allthough i cant steer the plane on the ground and i dont know how to resolve it... i tried everything and im getting fustradet maybe you could help me?
Check the nose wheel steering axis is configured.
Great video and very helpful, thanks. I have activated the "cold and dark" start up which is OK but how do I turn it off so that I can do a quick circuit practice without having to do the full procedure?
Go back into the FMC and change the state of the aircraft in the PMDG menu. To activate the FMC with no power, hold the menu button on.
The plane need to be above 200 knots above 2000 feet! After or before you can always push on the VNAV the airplane will handle the airspeed climb and the cruise!!! VNAV LNAV CMD are the most important! But i hope you will learn after your biggest mistake!
You know... It's amazing how many people presume I don't know this stuff - that wasn't the point of the video at all
Your presentation is always spot on and very methodical. I really appreciate them.
Secondly, I'm watching this no matter that I haven't bought the 800 nor do I intend to, but I've found that the sequences are pretty much the same with the other 737s, and I have the 700. So, I will again ask, why am I to buy the 800 at all??
The procedures are the same across all of them. It's 99% the same aircraft.
The 800 has different weights/balance and flight characteristics than the 700 due to simply being bigger, but it's basically the same aircraft regarding everything else so I wouldn't spend another 70$ if I were you :)
Excellent video as ever . I'm having issues with IRS not aligning, am certain it's me doing something wrong tho!
If left on "realistic", it's because IRS takes about 8 minutes to align. You can manipulate it in the FMC - under the PMDG menu.
@@jonbeckett I'm doing something weirdly wrong. I discovered the thing about setting it to realistic. Weirdly though, when I set it to realistic despite obviously having to wait 8 mins (which realistically I'm not going to want to do all time) it actually aligned, when I set it to 30 secs it never aĺigns for me .
@@jonathandesmond8697 how strange !?
Hi bro, how we get IFR clearance?
I put FP in MCDU, but i can't Request Clearance from ATC menu.
Can you help?
You can't. You have to put the flight plan into the simulator map screen first (that controls the ATC) - then programme the same flight into the FMC.
@@jonbeckett okey bro thanks for your information, this is first time i play PMDG, before i think PMDG have sync like Flybywire...
Do i not have to pre load the flight plan using the sims input or can i just spawn in and load the SIDS and STARS myself?
The PMDG aircraft take no notice of the world map screen flight plan - you have to do it "in the cockpit" like the real crews do it (there is a form of simbrief integration though too).
@jonbeckett Thank you, I experimented last night and I would always get an overlap of my arrival or departure route. I tried it just like you said and got a perfect route. I knew this but the last time I flew PMDG was 2-3 years ago on FSX. Flight Simulator X flight planning was a bit different than this.
i have another question after landing why is it that the aircraft makes a complete stop and i have to put it on full throttle for it to move
Have you flown A320?What do you think of Airbus?
Search my channel - several Airbus videos :)
@@jonbeckett...and what video card do you have?CPU?So smooth everything...
@@zsoltkovacs6545 I7 3.6Ghz, NVIDIA 3080
hello can you send a link about little nav map?I could not find it (
albar965.github.io/littlenavmap.html
literally the first result on google...
Hello, My I learn FLP program name ?
LittleNavMap
Where can we get it dude I cant see on msfs market
PMDG sell the PMDG aircraft.
First off the video/ your guide was amazing, but I’m having a bit of an issue I’m not sure if this is a bug and an update needs to happen, but I’m trying to press LNav and it’s no coming on at all only vnav anyone can help maybe I’m doing something wrong?
Just thinking out loud - make sure the flight directors are on, and make sure you have removed any discontinuities from the flight plan.
@@jonbeckett it was exactly that, very much appreciated
Great introduction. This is my first attempt on a so called study level plane and it is really a steeper learning curve than the native airliners in MSFS.
I used your checklist for the start up and also watched your other video that focus on the programming of the FMC and Little Navmap. The one thing I haven’t understood yet is how to correctly engage the autopilot. It doesn’t follow the flightpath set in the FMC and it always wants to decend, no matter what I set the altitude and vertical speed to. I click the main autopilot engage but the green light does not come on. Only the auto throttle works with the set speed.
Any idea on how to trouble shoot this issue?
If the autopilot doesn't come on, it's probably because you have a discontinuity in the flight plan legs, or the flight directors are not on, or the inertial navigation system isn't aligned (but then you would have no attitude indicator), or you have a control input. You usually can't engage the autopilot unless the controls are at rest.
@@jonbeckett yes! It seems it might have been the knob over the nav alignmrnent, the one labeled ”DSPL SEL” that I hadn’t set to ”HDG/STS”. Not sure but it was the only thing I could find that I did differently, and now it work flawlessly. :)
Thanks!
Hello i clicked ob the button there it where cold and dark but my b737-800 is still starting hot what am i doing wrong
Colddark*
Default start state.
2:05 the ryanair a330 ☠☠
What’s the flight plan program
Called?
LittleNavMap
my lnav won’t turn on
There are lots of reasons why that might be. The most common is your flightplan is not complete.
Thanks
Thanks for your amazing videos on the PMDG 737 Jonathan. Cheers from Down Under.
Welcome
Jonathan - Off Topic - in the past - you have convinced me to use Little Map - but I keep running into the need for the 'Aircraft Performance" detail file
I have found a few on the LP website for a small number of MSFS a/c but I was wondering what is your source - in this video you are using the 800 aircraft - which we know is different to the 600 and 700 for instance and your many videos using different aircraft for the first time need a new AP for the LM
I rarely bother looking for the accurate performance file in LNM - I just downloaded a 737 MAX from the internet after googling it. You can of course perform a flight in an aircraft, and use the flight as the basis for performance in LNM - I'll do a video on it at some point :)
@@jonbeckett That would be useful
TA!! and thanks for the 600 checklist - I had just finished writing down - the step by step in your 600 video --- LOL
@@jayteeaitch You do realise I made the document available for you to copy/print ?
Doesn't follow flight plan
Can you do it with airbus a320?
I have - search my channel :)
@@jonbeckett 😁😁
The reserve fuel box is how much fuel you have not how much you want get your information correct will you. Also Little Navmap is garbage for an airline flight so don’t use it.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant. When you fill in the reserve fuel, you are telling the aircraft how much fuel of the fuel you have that you consider "reserve". The FMC calculates the fuel burn for the route based on your performance specification (cost index, climb profile, cruise alt, etc), compares against the block fuel, and works out if you have enough for the reserve you state.
For the record, I fly regularly with people that fly on VATSIM day-in, day-out, and they all use LittleNavMap. What do you use that is so much better ?
@@jonbeckettjust as information for you, 1,000lb of fuel is generally not enough at all in real life. Not sure what your experience is, so don't want to tell you something you already know lol. Usually I see anything from 5-8
@@cdesha Yep - I'm basing it on not going round or being diverted, because this is a simulator, the plane will not malfunction, and the only limiting factor is my lack of talent on approach :) It's a great topic for a video at some point actually :)
Ypur dont make sens
this vid has 737 likes i cannot like sorry
Utterly the BEST VIDEO on a plane startup procedure in ALL of TH-cam, IMHO!!! Thanks you so much for sharing your knowledge, you deserve 2 mil subscribers!!! I went to your shop and instead of getting 1 "checklist", I ended up getting 4!!! PLEASE keep the FANTASTIC content coming....I WANT TO LEARN MORE!!!
:) There's a lot more in the aircraft than the checklist covers - it really is the absolute bare bones.
Thank you very much Jonathan.
Really good tutorial.
I am switching from 320 to 737 and the PMDG has blown me away :)
I have a big issues with PMDG who stolle me a purchase, It is impossible to contact someone at PMDG, they send a code to a email who do not are mine, so my purchase of B737-900 is stoll because the send the code to download my purchase to a wrong email. It is a automatic reply go to forum, soo there are a administratif issue not technical issue, imppossible to contact anyone, PMDG aren not thrusty to make purchase, If some one know how to talk to someone frrom PMDG let me know, It is ashamed situation from who get success and lost contact from customer, shame on PMDG...
Email support. They have always replied to me within 48 hours.
I was shocked to hear a video start with "Ok!" Instead of "Hello!" 😅