We’re on the hunt for a new dinghy and this convertible boat could be a serious contender. Row it, motor it, or rig it up and sail it. FYI - This video is not sponsored by OC Tenders nor do we get any sort of incentive or compensation should you purchase. But if you do, please let them know they should buy us a beer for the recommendation. 🍻
I really like the idea of having the OC Tender with the sail option. Besides being a useful tender for Curiosity 2, you'll have fun in port sailing, and in an emergency you can rely on wind power more than you can with fuel or batteries. From an ecological standpoint wind power is better too.
The answer is very simple...Do you have any insurance? Do you have any first aid kit? Do you have just one vhf or two? Having an engine + a sail may make the difference one day... So a convertible dinghy is the best in my opinion. And you can have some fun with it too!
Electric jet sounds more fun. Simple sailing is also fun. Hmmm. If the sails and everything could store on the tender, hidden somewhere, it might change my mind. My worry for electric is the inability to quickly add, or bring "range" with you.
@@ScottzPlaylists Still, it will never get you as far as a sail. And you missed the point, the dinghy they are referring to is convertible. So it can be both.
Finding parts for the jet version might be difficult in some countries. The sailing/outboard model has multimodal failover, and as you pointed out, it can be a way to share sailing with others. Maybe you just found your new dinghy. As always, stay safe out there!
I'd say go for this sailing dinghy. You'd be buying from a family business, which is awesome. In general, you don't tend to be speed demons (fast is fun though). You could save even more on "fuel" and in an emergency at sea, you could still move the dinghy, even without power/solar.
The best sailors in the world today, mostly began sailing in dinghies, this one is a sweet design and finish, dingy sailing gives you the knowledge of wind on water, wind and tide directions and more, plus all the fun, the knowledge and experience gained sets you up before you jump onto large boats. Well done to Nicki and Jason, now you’ve done both! I think your jet version is best for your long travels of ocean sailing. Congrats to young family on designing these, both versions will do well.
Keep in mind that demo was ideal light wind conditions. How comfortable/dry/safe would it be in higher winds? Remember you'll need to tack so distances become longer. You don't want to flip and dump your groceries. There's a reason they mostly rowed vs. sailed the small boats in the old days unless crossing long distances. As long as you can make power to charge it go elelctric.
I have an OCT 330 with an ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus outboard. Very happy with it, highly recommend it, I chose it because I didn’t want petrol on board as well. The OCT comes with oars as well… 😊
The question is how often would you sail the dinghy? It looks like fun but at what point does it become a chore if ever? Could you live with it day to day? Have the options for an electric outboard gotten better? These are the questions I would ask myself. Fun excursion and fact finding.
... you'd be surprised ... we had a dinghy sailer growing up, the hull inside was unfinished glass and prickly and it was always in high demand when we were camping in the summer on Hornby Island in Georgia Strait BC .... sure the principle is the same, but dinghy sailing is a different kettle of fish .... of course some may disagree .... think of being out sailing with a line hung of the back .....
hi Guys - I am a bit late and you may not read this - I am a Captain in the oil and gas industry - We have constant issues with jet boats - mostly from sucking trash (plastic bags) into the intake....Not an issue in Beautiful NZ...But could be an issue in some of your future cruising grounds in the rest of the world....Though I must admit I dont know the system used on OC's ad they may have solved that particular problem. If your sold on OC Tenders - A great product - I would use the KISS principle and go for the best of both worlds - do electric outboard with sail .....They look a bit pricy on their website - but truly a lifetime boat...Best of luck in what ever you choose - really looking forward to seeing you out on your new boat and water taxi....Cheers
I just had a look at their specs - Can you use the sail a s a back up??? the site says Max load sailing mode: 170kg/375lb and in "tender mode" it is a Max load of: 448kg/988lb - So if you have you, Jason, the electric outboard, battery pack and a load of groceries...you would be pushing the 170kg/375lb....SO the sailing portion looks to be more fun than a practical thing....Not that that is a bad thing.
I cruised the S Pacific with a sailing dinghy, and it was well worth the incredible versatility of having one. We enjoyed sailing it all over the place and with the local kids it was a game changer. And they make a very safe lifeboat where you can actually get to land in the just in case scenario. If I were outfitting my boat, I would go with the combo sail/ power dinghy.
It’s easy to see that your heart will remain in New Zealand. Your love for the country, it’s people & culture has been easily observable. It’s touched my heart deeply seeing your love for New Zealand.
I vote for The Electric Dinghy, The sailing version is interesting but not practical when you need to get to land in a hurry. My 2 cents. Cheers from beautiful East Lansing Michigan.
Real sailors don't live in fear. The convertible dinghy makes total sense. Sailing Vessel Florence has GREAT TH-cam content and uses a sailing dinghy EXCLUSIVELY.
Good to see people learn to sail. Yes, your cruising skills are considerable. I vote for the sailing dingy with a Torqeedo motor. The skills you learn with the dinghy will dramatically increase your speed in the big boat. If you’re ever in one place long enough, get a racing dingy and experience joy.
I learned to sail on a cat rig similar to that (minus the float around the sheer) in the late 60s. A hard dinghy can be lighter, plane better (have a better hull shape), be just as stable and unsinkable, last longer, etc. than an inflatable. The only thing an inflatable really has over anything else is that (if it isn't a RIB) it can be stored below in a smaller package and they are available everywhere because (almost) nobody sells anything else. I would say an inflatable starts at $500 ish USD too but not sure how long our $700 CAD dinghy will last (three years old right now but not in continuous use). There are also nesting dinghys, They do weigh a bit more (two extra transoms in the middle) but take up less room on the deck and most will "work" as two boats. With regard to your jet boat, it's weight is static, it always has the weight of the jet and batteries included even if you row it (or sail it), the batteries and jet always take up the room in the middle of the boat. An outboard lifts off, a gas tank or battery pack can be separated. Outboard parts are everywhere, as are whole replacement outboards (new or used). A lot to think about for sure.
While I'm intrigued by the electric version, having a tender AND a sailing dingy seems perfect. You will LOVE IT! And while initially you will find it a bit awkward to sail, it will quickly become second nature. I guarantee you'll be sailing into docks etc. you'd never think you would. Notice how easy it is to drop the sail? Just do that and scull with the rudder to move at slow speed. And of course, when not practical to sail it's also a great dingy with an outboard. Easy decision. Just look at how much fun you had sailing it? Imagine all the little exploration trips you could undertake sailing? You saw the light wind performance, unless there is literally no wind whatsoever you will always be able to move along. I also think sailing a dingy makes you a better sailor as you 'feel' the boat and the wind and water with your entire body so acutely cuz you are balancing the boat with your own weight constantly. You become intuitively attuned to it and will find yourself adjusting trim constantly in subtle ways that balance the boat out and keep your on course and making way. These same forces are acting on larger boats as well. I also think you will become a much better sail trimmer as you discover the you pinch your sails most of the time on your large boat, as most cruising sailors do. Shape. leads, trim are all much clearer on a small boat. DO IT! I also think the idea of cruising into someplace and having the dink to teach kids there to sail on is very cool. Gotta have a mission.
If you have kids and want to teach them independence and exploring in a little tender with sails. My boys started with a 12 foot Sparkman & Stephens at 7 & 9 yrs old. They still talk about the days growing up on that little boat and now have their own boys and girls learning on a tender sailing around. All kids should give it a try. Teaches them responsibility, safety and fun, who knows someday you may see them sailing beside GWTW. Find a old one fix it up or buy one if you can, they will never forget that first day you push em off land to explore, grow or just have fun.
@@chrispomfret8592 Except if you go any serious distance with it exploring, there's no room to keep an engine in the dinghy during the excursion. So that's a lot of rowing to consider in a no-wind scenario. To be fair, the same can be said about an engine failing, though that's less likely than no-wind situations. So worth thinking about, I think.
My dream tender would be electric with the option to sail on a moments notice that sets up in under a minute with relative ease. A fold down mast with the jib already rolled on it so it's easy to furl and unfurl the jib with a series of pulleys to make it easy to bring up and down the mast.
It’s super cool, but I sort of broke the decision down to how many times would be actually use the sailing aspect of the dinghy. Removing the motor and getting all the stuff out while cruising. Not often enough was our answer…go with the ZeroJet option!
Hi guys, I started sailing 70 years ago at the age of 8, in a 10ft, plywood dinghy on a little reservoir in the north of England. A little dinghy teaches you a feel for sailing that, IMO, those who’ve only ever sailed on larger yachts struggle to develop. In particular, racing against others hones your skills. I now live an hour’s drive from Paihia and until about 5 years ago used to keep a 30 ft shoal draft centreboarder and spend weekends exactly where you guys are in this episode. I have visited OCT and their boats impress me. Personally, I’d go for a much simpler rig (leg o’ mutton sail with a sprit held by a simple snotter, and a clamp-on leeboard. Advantages: can use the cheaper, rowing/outboard version with more floor space: sprit can be higher than the boom and removes twist from the sail without the need for a boom vang: sail can be triced up snug against the mast in a matter of seconds using the fall of the halyard. This is quicker than dropping the sail in a squall and keeps it out of the boat if the wind drops and you need to row home. Sure, it won’t go to windward quite as well, not that you’d probably notice except if you were racing, rudder can be a simple outboard type clamp and the reversible leeboard is moulded to run up the topsides over the deck and clamp onto the carlin. The general consensus seems to be that it makes little difference whether it’s a leeboard or a weatherboard. As to having the sailing version I think that exploring in a sailing/pulling boat without mechanical assistance opens up a whole new world of adventure. When the only sound you’re making is the chuckle of the water under her forefoot, you see so much more of nature. It’s like the difference between hiking the trail and using a quad bike. You already mentioned being able to teach the basics of sailing to others. Finally, I think this is possibly the best tender/life raft/self rescue boat I’ve ever seen. With the two of you on the bottom boards, a tight fitting cover and a sea anchor I think your chances would be the equal of a certified life raft. But, under better conditions you should be able to make 50 - 100 miles per day if you sail her watch and watch about. I’d take that over a leaky life raft with sharks hitting my backside, simply adrift on the ocean. Whatever you decide, go well. My sailing days are over but my eyes are on the horizon, with yours. Haere ra. Ka kite ano. Arohanui (Farewell. See you again. Much love) M. C.
Oh this is so awesome! I met Russel a few years ago at an awards ceremony where they won some stuff. He was so awesome and so passionate about sailing we had a massive chin wag. Its been so cool seeing them and their boats pop up randomly through out my youtube channels over the last few years.
This is your tender! I think the ability to sail will bring you pure joy and you will become much, much better sailors. Imagine a nice tropical bay where you get to sail for the pure pleasure of it. I like the electric motor but I’m not convinced the range is there yet. This dingy hull shape is great and as a compromise boat it does a damn good job. Way better than an inflatable dinghy.
Exploring Shallows might be a challenge with the daggerboard and sailing rudder. Mounting electric drives to the rudder might give more flexibility in drive options. Your car has to be tolerant of strong winds on a return to your home or harsh squalls for an emergency taxi to shore. Identify your most challenging chores and choose the best solution for the unexpected. Best of luck!
When I was young my father surprised my mom and sisters and I by purchasing a 22 foot Hughes sailboat (he'd never sailed in his life) From that moment on we became sailors. The sailboats went up in size over the years (up to a 36 ft C&C) During that time we had several styles of tenders (mostly inflatable ones) but the best was when we had one that was a sailing tender. Even though it weighed a ton compared to the inflatables, it was so much fun for me. I'd take it out where ever we were at anchor and sail around on my own. As a teenager it was a feeling of independence and I became so confident in how to sail. I miss those days. No matter what tender you ultimately decide to buy, you will be sailing such a beautiful boat that will take you on so many more incredible adventures. - Hugh
I don’t sail but I watch y’all and S/V Delos channels. I think you need to get the dingy which will best work for supplying your boat. What’s the easiest way to use it like a “car?” I would think messing with a sail just to go get groceries would be a pain, and then how do you park a sailing dingy without the sail being in the way or getting your sail stolen or damaged while it’s parked at the dock. Since I don’t know anything about sailing don’t listen to me 😊. But the sailing dinghy looks like more trouble than it’s worth for simple excursions for groceries or just jumping in to run to the beach. Do you use it more for groceries and beach runs or do you use it more for side trips and curiosity travels? Thinking about answering those questions would help you decide. That’s a non sailing persons perspective, but I want you to be happy with whatever your choice 😁. Thanks for your awesome videos!
Sailing tender is a great idea, but one that I think is ultimately impractical for the sort of no muss, no fuss, get in & GO things you would typically use a dingy for. I get the notion of allowing further exploration, but then you have the center board that interferes with the awesome shallow draft of a more normal dinghy. It could be great fun in bays, but then you also have to deal with sails, rigging, & loss of interior space that you really need when it comes to provisioning or hauling gear. Imagine using sails with 2 of you on a provisioning run, and needing to keep the center well aft of the mast clear so you can switch sides. I suppose you could each sit on the opposite gunwale, and pass the rudder & sheet back & forth. It looks like fun, but it wouldn't be my choice. Now, if you could take 2 dinghies, or fit a small electric outboard to the back of the sailing one, you might have a solution.
I think you missed the idea this is both a sailing boat and a powered tender. The centreboard comes out and is replaced with a plug system that stops the water flying up the centreboard case when in powerboat mode. It can be rowed too.
I have a feeling you’ve just found your new dingy. Wow, it’s great. But always a good idea to write all the pros and cons and choose the RIGHT one for your needs. God bless!
Think the jet boat is better, the sail version seems small. I have same thoughts. Looking for a larger version to do tow sports and comfortable for family, shopping and stuff. I think they are so much better than inflatables. Like the keel protector and wheels. The jet boat and hydrofoil versions are cool. The sail version reminds me of a sunfish learning sailboat. Someone mentioned parts for the jet boat. As long as you can mount a traditional outboard in an emergency on that version I think your fine. I would love to see a secure locker on it though.
I allways found that OC made great dinghys and i would buy one as soon as i get my cat. As an improvemend I would like to see 2 swords. One on each side wich can flip up in the sideframe. You use your dinghy mostly where the draft is too low for the homebase, to beach it, or on the shallow dingydock. As it looks the rudder is fixed with a screw into place and only friction is holding it in place, this would be also very easy for the swords to do. Sails with the option of an strong electric motor would be the perfect combination!
Thanks so much for making our beautiful little island nation tucked away in the back of beyond look so good. Sad to see you go. Happy and safe travels. X
I vote you guy's get this convertible dingy/sailer... I started on a snark lil sailer 2 person .. I loved packing a days worth of food an just going around the Chesapeake visiting everyone... Once fell asleep an almost ended up in the main channel 😂... I apparently didn't tie myself to the tree well... lol!! Guy's this was a great episode... wonderful people!! Thanks for sharing your lives with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
Kia ora you two. Thank you, thank you, thank you for making videos that show our precious Taonga of a country in such a wonderful light. Best of luck with your new boat and next adventure. Aroha to you both.
Thanks!….. 😂😂 It was fun to see you folks back on the water. I never knew that dingys are not configured to actually to sail. The idea of a sailing capable dingy would seem both multipurpose and practical. Thanks for sharing your adventures.
As a land locked RV person, take this opinion as the view of such. The sailing dinghy is a cool, and very eco option. But, the eJet will get u to shore no matter the winds. The simplicity of the sails with a backup electric powered motor could be the perfect combo though.
I didn't start sailing after buying a boat, as I have never owned a sailboat. I have only sailed sailing dinghies. They are a blast to sail, but I swam as much as I sailed. Mostly because I love to push the envelope and I like to go as fast as I can. I spent as much time righting the boat aka swimming as I did sail it. My ex on the other hand sailed it very slowly and meticulously and rarely tipped it, but he still would go for a swim occasionally. But to get anywhere, you must go so slow as to not tip it over. You are also locked into weather windows. No wind, no groceries. Too much wind, no groceries. A heavy tide and wind and you may not be able to get back to your boat. All that said, if I had a motor and could convert the OC tender to motorized so I could get groceries and get back to my boat if the wind and tide got too strong to be able to sail back. Dinghy sailing is such a blast to do. It is something that I absolutely love. That said, I wouldn't want to depend on if the water is too cold, and if there is a wind chill either. You must be willing to go swimming every time you put the sail up. I have tipped it over even when I wasn't doing crazy stunts. Imagine tipping it over with your dinghy full of groceries, or you just picked up a sailboat part you had been waiting months for. I would absolutely love to own a sailing dinghy, and the OC tender may be a bit more stable than what I sail. I just don't know how I get stuff back to my boat. I mean jelly cans full of gas and a gust of wind and now your boat is on its side. I think I would want to have the capability to sail to shore, but I would also want an electric motor that is charged and ready also to go to shore with me. Just a little reality from someone who only has years of experience of sailing dinghies, and absolutely loves them too! It is because of my dinghy sailing that i would like to learn to sail bigger boats and start racing sail yachts. Some people sail to get places. I sail to sail. The places are just an excuse to go sailing.
Here is the good thing the dingy can be used as sailing or with a motor down side room when sai8ling and lack of room when engine because of of engine fuel tank and the dagger board placement unless small electric engine. But also there is the complication of taking down the sails making the boat ready for the engine again and vise versa.
There's nothing sweeter than a sailing dingy. I grew up with one and now, at 71 y/o am thinking that the OC Sailing Dingy is the perfectly lazy shoreline sailing boat for me. Will research where to find it! Susu Olsen Oyster Bay, NY, USA
For this sailing dinghy to be practical while sailing, you need to have nice weather, have a place to board that supports your keel depth (no beaching), know that the weather stays good for sailing while on land. And store the sail every time you visit a place for a longer time. It seems you cannot bring the motor with you while sailing, so wind conditions are critical. Also the capacity seems to be limited while sailing because of the swinging of the boom. I also feel like it would not be as fun to rig up the small dinghy just to go to land after having sailed for a long time on the bigger boat.
The video you guys did on electric outboards prompted me to get an E-propulsion Spirit for the dinghy on my Dolphin catamaran. I LOVE IT! so easy, quiet and dependable! It’s not going to get up on plane, but so what? Free motoring from my solar array for ever!
The sailing dinghy for sure! I grew up sailing my dad’s Penn Yan sailing dinghy. So much fun- with just a medium breeze you could make it plane above the water. With a motor on yours you’ll have the best of everything. You could put an electric motor on it…
This sailing dingy looked so smooth and beautiful on the water, addition of the electric outboard if possible would be so cool! What a stellar looking performer!
Nice, great video, what a cool little sailboat. "If you can sail a small Sailboat you can Sail Anything!" On late, dealing with the remains of Hurricane 'Ian'. No electric for three days, tons of destruction, flooding, and all that goes with a Super Hurricane. One of the worst in History, set records on many levels! Trying to relax, had to evacuate for a few days without power, elevator, laundry, cooking, etc. Running on empty, loss of sleep, dirt;y clothes, worried moments, and sad stories. Love your cute little quips, and analysis! Too tired to give viable advice. "Good On Ya", doing the new model and twirling another contestant into the Mix! Stay Safe and Brilliant~!
You could look @ it like this for this dingy. If your motor ever quit on you, you could still get where you needed to go by sailing. You'd never be stuck or have to depend on someone to rescue you on the seas. I'm sure you could rig it up to have an electric motor on it to. Then if you ran out of power you can always sail it where you needed to go. The electric motor would do away with ever having to buy gas. And as you've found out some gas is very dirty in some islands & can charge you out rages prices since your from America. I like this option, but I would buy an electric motor with 2 batteries or one large one so you would never run out of power. But if you had to sail it if you ran out of power, it might sail a little slower. You've got a lot of thinking to consider & it's not going to be easy. It just goes to what your needs are & what your going to use it for. It's a tool & you have to just find the right tool for the job. I wish you happiness in the choice you make, it's going to be hard to chose since electric is getting better all the time. Good luck & be safe, Chris from Missouri
Definitely + 1 vote for this sailing dinghy. The jet boat was fun but I think there's more to go wrong with it maintenance wise. Simple is best. And technically, a sail, I would assume, is greener to manufacture than a battery & jet propulsion. (I'm sure you could still fit an electric torqeedo style motor on this one too, if you want to stay green.)
Serious contender for sure! It's is the best of both worlds just like your new boat, AND it is supporting a small FAMILY business! I do nor envy you for the decision you have to make! Having fun while you commute between your home and land is where a lot of tension and stress can lay, if you make it a boat you can't wait to jump into, all the better. line up those boxes and make your checks, cause it is getting REAL! Love the vid, had a blast watching that sweet family welcoming you into their fold and the gorgeous day on that amazing water was relaxing. Enjoy the process, its what you want to be a part of your adventures! Love the landlocked looky-loos :)
Lovely Nikki. Back in the 1980s I was working security at the port of Bellingham in Washington State. They had a magazine or picture of boat being built with 1800 foot beams. I think it was a catamaran and you pull smaller. Boats. Underneath and tie up. I never saw the boat after it was completed....................stay beautiful nikki
The sail would as you say be great for opening up opportunities while at anchor. You could then justify the simplicity of a std outboard for fast unlimited range . Defiantly impressed with the way the boat sailed. As a small boat race I appreciate that , so many tender type sailing dinghy barely sail ….. however the centerboard needs to be quick release as you will sail in shallow water a lot ! Cheers Warren
How easy would the sailing version be to beach by pulling up the center board? When he inserted the center board it looked like it was a tight fit. I'm sure you would use this not as a hybrid electric sailer, but either as an electric powered tender or as a sailing dingy. Do all the sailing componenet store permanently on the dingy? How much does it weigh, and will it be light enough to put on the davits of the new boat? Where would you store the electric outboard and battery? Still a lot to consider, but looks like fun, and does open up other options if time is not a factor.
Looks like a lot fun, and definitely practical with the outboard. Sailed well in that light wind too, but I wonder how practical it is in that configuration. It seemed like you wouldn't want more than two adults and shopping on it. I'd love to be proven wrong though, this is a really cool realisation of a concept many of us have daydreamed about.
I have to tell you that I grew up, sailing sabots in Mission Bay, San Diego, California but after seeing that Dingy/Sailboat, I am insanely jealous as it is beautiful. What a thrill.
Glad you got to have a beaut day out there in one of the places I grew up in. My Dad got us a sailing dinghy when I was 7 and my brothers and I spent many hours scooting around the bays, that one there at Motu Arohia (Roberton Is.) included. I've had 2 sailing tenders for our own yachts and love gunkholing quietly around. Go for it , they're fun.
That tender can have a motor as well as the sail I assume. If so then it has to be the winner. The electric speedster sounds like a blast but having a tender that you can motor or sail gives youso much more fun....
Pros and cons for both. Ultimately the choice is yours. I'm sure you will make the decision which is best for your intended purposes. Thanks for sharing this lovely family's invention. ❤️
We have a have a OC 350 on a ship headed for Cape Town as we speak. Nice to see the OC family on camera and we have had many emails with them. I wanted the sailing dingy but, it’s not something that you would use very often and the storage of the sailing gear is a bit more to keep up with. I wish you yall the best of weather in your crossings to come. Syd
My vote is OC Tender with the sailing option and an electric motor. The OC has been my pick from the beginning. The sailing package just makes it more versatile.
I absolutely love that little sailing dinghy, and as you pointed out you can give sailing lessons which is a great way to make friends. However, as one commenter said it’s not practical if you need to get somewhere in a hurry, so get a convertible. A sailing dinghy and the out board motor. It would be in between a gas powered dinghy and an electric dinghy. JMHO……Brian Rhodes
This makes perfect sense, the best of both worlds! I used to sail a Gwen 12, well sail is probably being optimistic, but boy could it go like the clappers! However it amazes me that there are not more " tenders" like this one. A fantastic idea and worth serious consideration. And, I can see a whole new scope for sail training. Brilliant.
Mean something like a Portland pudgy? If you think you want to sell it but how often do you actually sell anything besides your big boat Primly use your dinghy for expeditions and then go get food and fuel. A sailing dinghy and all its parts just would make that more complicated. More parts to fix and replace. You might be better off with a emergency sailing kit for the dinghy you get. But even that's a bad idea because if you're going to be rescued you're probably going to be close to where your boat was last seen.
Ahoy Fellow Sailors, I sailed a Boston Whaler sailing dingy, an eight footer. It was very quick and nimble with one person aboard. Two people and groceries and a couple five gallon jugs slow it down enough to make you wish for a motor. It is all about displacement when under sail. Power can get the right hull design up on a plane. Maybe go for displacement with both sail and aux- power. If it was not my twilight, I would choose a foamed unsinkable Boston Whaler with a lanteen rig (for shorter poles to store) stepped far foward. I would add a kite rig as well to catch higher altitude wind. My little Whaler was a blast to sail, but always carry oars. One fine day years ago, my big sailboat was in the marina and we were in the dingy about eight miles away, according to my local knowledge. The wind quit on us. I tried steering to the closest patches of wind driven ripples but I could only muster about a tenth of a knot over ground as we watched the sun go down. Please turn to chapter two, wait, what, no chapter two? Power the dingy with electric. Make sure you install a good thrust bearing on the prop shafts so you can re-gen under sail ( mindful of prop pitch). A sailplane and kite rig. Unsinkable, kick up rudder and dagger board. Might work but whichever way you go I respect your learning curve and the application of the knowledge that you share with us. Many thanks.
Nikki, I learned to sail on the Lido 14 and have sailed many a boat since but when I think of the highlights of all of them. sailing that little 14' is among the very best. The warm sun, moving along with the wind and the only sounds are the gurgle of the water beneath the hull and the faint rattle of the rigging.
Love small sail boats been sailing them for over 60 years really helped me control my 31 foot Jim brown trim I built and sailed when I was 24 years old . I so enjoy your adventures been there from the beginning thank you guys
Reminds me of learning to sail Pram's in Cocoa Nut Florida in the late 40's. We used to have races in the classes we had. I had already learned how to sail but this was a little different because they taught us a lot of different tricks to go faster. My dad commercial fished a small open sail boat in Biscayne Bay in the late 20's and into the 30's before he could afford a power boat to commercial fish out of. So he was able to teach me some tricks about stopping quickly and starting quickly. Those were the days being a kid in the 40's.
I was impressed with the electric jet unit but an electric outboard motor and sail conversion would do me . I had thousands of hours as a kid sailing small yachts in the holidays and your vlog brought it all back to me. I’m 64 and would do it again if it was that easy. Cheers from New Zealand.
Personally I would get the sailing version, I like the flexibility of use and the increased range a sail can offer... It's one of the reasons why I've always been interested in the Portland Pudgy
I love this whole idea of a mini sailing dingy/power dingy.. If you ever ran out of gas.. at least with a few knots of wind you could make it back.. I think that is a stellar idea.. ( disclaimer.. I don't sail or even know how to swim ) but i love your channel.. been here since the RV days. I think the combo dingy is a great idea!
Sailing all the way, weve had a Drascombe Scaffie on our boat for years, it's not fast even with the outboard on it but sailing in from anchor and back out without burning any fuel is fun and ultimately easier to maintain.
Sailing dingy would be cool, I've ridden one many years ago, that one looks a lot more durable than the one I was on, and they can be a lot of fun, when you decide that you are also loading groceries, would be nice if they included a hatch to keep goods dry during a run to a mainland. Would be good you have the option to use either/or sail or motor, with the OC.
Like oars, a sail is a good backup in case your main propulsion fails or runs out of energy. A tender that functions as a sailing liferaft can also be a lifesaver. Under normal circumstances a sail extends the range of your tender.
I can't wait to see what you decide on, but that little boat just looks like so much fun. It's got a super sensible design. I like the flat step on convenience and the fact that it rights easily in case of an oops. Clipped in dry bags would get you to nearly goof proof and as someone else said, a sailable life raft as well. Super-fast is fun, but this is eminently practical, eco-friendly and there's not a lot to go wrong.
"Sailing Yacht Florence" is just completing a 5 year circumnavigation. Their home-made wooden dingy is a sailboat. While they more often use an outboard, they did use it in the Pacific Islands to save fuel and often just for fun. When they were stuck in Indonesia for a year during covid, they used it to explore islands. A lifeboat with a sail is an interesting concept. Just thinking.
We’re on the hunt for a new dinghy and this convertible boat could be a serious contender. Row it, motor it, or rig it up and sail it.
FYI - This video is not sponsored by OC Tenders nor do we get any sort of incentive or compensation should you purchase. But if you do, please let them know they should buy us a beer for the recommendation. 🍻
I really like the idea of having the OC Tender with the sail option. Besides being a useful tender for Curiosity 2, you'll have fun in port sailing, and in an emergency you can rely on wind power more than you can with fuel or batteries. From an ecological standpoint wind power is better too.
The answer is very simple...Do you have any insurance? Do you have any first aid kit? Do you have just one vhf or two? Having an engine + a sail may make the difference one day... So a convertible dinghy is the best in my opinion. And you can have some fun with it too!
Electric jet sounds more fun. Simple sailing is also fun. Hmmm. If the sails and everything could store on the tender, hidden somewhere, it might change my mind. My worry for electric is the inability to quickly add, or bring "range" with you.
No sailing Dingy, Get a Electric Dingy and charge it with your Boats Solar Array. Upgrade to more batteries and more solar.
@@ScottzPlaylists Still, it will never get you as far as a sail. And you missed the point, the dinghy they are referring to is convertible. So it can be both.
Finding parts for the jet version might be difficult in some countries. The sailing/outboard model has multimodal failover, and as you pointed out, it can be a way to share sailing with others. Maybe you just found your new dinghy. As always, stay safe out there!
You can always row while waiting for parts. Electric motors are pretty robust. Possibility a good idea to carry a extra electronic controller.
I'd say go for this sailing dinghy. You'd be buying from a family business, which is awesome. In general, you don't tend to be speed demons (fast is fun though). You could save even more on "fuel" and in an emergency at sea, you could still move the dinghy, even without power/solar.
The best sailors in the world today, mostly began sailing in dinghies, this one is a sweet design and finish, dingy sailing gives you the knowledge of wind on water, wind and tide directions and more, plus all the fun, the knowledge and experience gained sets you up before you jump onto large boats.
Well done to Nicki and Jason, now you’ve done both!
I think your jet version is best for your long travels of ocean sailing. Congrats to young family on designing these, both versions will do well.
I like this sailing dingy. You could always put an electric outboard on it if you want an electric tender. Cheers!
I think the electric motor would make this the perfect option.
That's exactly what I do aboard the Windwalker. Spin up the centerboard, and she draws six inches to get in the tight spots.
Keep in mind that demo was ideal light wind conditions. How comfortable/dry/safe would it be in higher winds? Remember you'll need to tack so distances become longer. You don't want to flip and dump your groceries. There's a reason they mostly rowed vs. sailed the small boats in the old days unless crossing long distances. As long as you can make power to charge it go elelctric.
I have an OCT 330 with an ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus outboard. Very happy with it, highly recommend it, I chose it because I didn’t want petrol on board as well. The OCT comes with oars as well… 😊
Agreed...sure that's spinnin round the Wynns noggin too.
The question is how often would you sail the dinghy? It looks like fun but at what point does it become a chore if ever? Could you live with it day to day? Have the options for an electric outboard gotten better? These are the questions I would ask myself. Fun excursion and fact finding.
... you'd be surprised ... we had a dinghy sailer growing up, the hull inside was unfinished glass and prickly and it was always in high demand when we were camping in the summer on Hornby Island in Georgia Strait BC .... sure the principle is the same, but dinghy sailing is a different kettle of fish .... of course some may disagree .... think of being out sailing with a line hung of the back .....
I have watched enough sailing youtubers where the outboard engine has broken down- surely this a good option to have when your stuck somewhere …
hi Guys - I am a bit late and you may not read this - I am a Captain in the oil and gas industry - We have constant issues with jet boats - mostly from sucking trash (plastic bags) into the intake....Not an issue in Beautiful NZ...But could be an issue in some of your future cruising grounds in the rest of the world....Though I must admit I dont know the system used on OC's ad they may have solved that particular problem. If your sold on OC Tenders - A great product - I would use the KISS principle and go for the best of both worlds - do electric outboard with sail .....They look a bit pricy on their website - but truly a lifetime boat...Best of luck in what ever you choose - really looking forward to seeing you out on your new boat and water taxi....Cheers
I just had a look at their specs - Can you use the sail a s a back up??? the site says Max load sailing mode: 170kg/375lb and in "tender mode" it is a Max load of: 448kg/988lb - So if you have you, Jason, the electric outboard, battery pack and a load of groceries...you would be pushing the 170kg/375lb....SO the sailing portion looks to be more fun than a practical thing....Not that that is a bad thing.
I cruised the S Pacific with a sailing dinghy, and it was well worth the incredible versatility of having one. We enjoyed sailing it all over the place and with the local kids it was a game changer. And they make a very safe lifeboat where you can actually get to land in the just in case scenario.
If I were outfitting my boat, I would go with the combo sail/ power dinghy.
It’s easy to see that your heart will remain in New Zealand. Your love for the country, it’s people & culture has been easily observable. It’s touched my heart deeply seeing your love for New Zealand.
I vote for The Electric Dinghy, The sailing version is interesting but not practical when you need to get to land in a hurry. My 2 cents. Cheers from beautiful East Lansing Michigan.
well, the thing is going to be both, its never going to be just a sail.
@@Apostate_ofmind But it seems like you cannot bring the motor with you when in sailing configuration.
Real sailors don't live in fear. The convertible dinghy makes total sense. Sailing Vessel Florence has GREAT TH-cam content and uses a sailing dinghy EXCLUSIVELY.
@@earthangel8730 How do people take a sailing dinghy to an island or whatever and go to a beach? You can’t get in close enough.
@@tracygee doesn’t the centerboard come up and down?
Good to see people learn to sail. Yes, your cruising skills are considerable. I vote for the sailing dingy with a Torqeedo motor. The skills you learn with the dinghy will dramatically increase your speed in the big boat. If you’re ever in one place long enough, get a racing dingy and experience joy.
It’s what we like to call kiwi ingenuity right there. Thanks guys
I learned to sail on a cat rig similar to that (minus the float around the sheer) in the late 60s. A hard dinghy can be lighter, plane better (have a better hull shape), be just as stable and unsinkable, last longer, etc. than an inflatable. The only thing an inflatable really has over anything else is that (if it isn't a RIB) it can be stored below in a smaller package and they are available everywhere because (almost) nobody sells anything else. I would say an inflatable starts at $500 ish USD too but not sure how long our $700 CAD dinghy will last (three years old right now but not in continuous use). There are also nesting dinghys, They do weigh a bit more (two extra transoms in the middle) but take up less room on the deck and most will "work" as two boats.
With regard to your jet boat, it's weight is static, it always has the weight of the jet and batteries included even if you row it (or sail it), the batteries and jet always take up the room in the middle of the boat. An outboard lifts off, a gas tank or battery pack can be separated. Outboard parts are everywhere, as are whole replacement outboards (new or used). A lot to think about for sure.
While I'm intrigued by the electric version, having a tender AND a sailing dingy seems perfect. You will LOVE IT! And while initially you will find it a bit awkward to sail, it will quickly become second nature. I guarantee you'll be sailing into docks etc. you'd never think you would. Notice how easy it is to drop the sail? Just do that and scull with the rudder to move at slow speed. And of course, when not practical to sail it's also a great dingy with an outboard. Easy decision. Just look at how much fun you had sailing it? Imagine all the little exploration trips you could undertake sailing? You saw the light wind performance, unless there is literally no wind whatsoever you will always be able to move along. I also think sailing a dingy makes you a better sailor as you 'feel' the boat and the wind and water with your entire body so acutely cuz you are balancing the boat with your own weight constantly. You become intuitively attuned to it and will find yourself adjusting trim constantly in subtle ways that balance the boat out and keep your on course and making way. These same forces are acting on larger boats as well. I also think you will become a much better sail trimmer as you discover the you pinch your sails most of the time on your large boat, as most cruising sailors do. Shape. leads, trim are all much clearer on a small boat. DO IT!
I also think the idea of cruising into someplace and having the dink to teach kids there to sail on is very cool. Gotta have a mission.
If you have kids and want to teach them independence and exploring in a little tender with sails. My boys started with a 12 foot Sparkman & Stephens at 7 & 9 yrs old. They still talk about the days growing up on that little boat and now have their own boys and girls learning on a tender sailing around. All kids should give it a try. Teaches them responsibility, safety and fun, who knows someday you may see them sailing beside GWTW. Find a old one fix it up or buy one if you can, they will never forget that first day you push em off land to explore, grow or just have fun.
You are not always going to have wind and you should always have something that can go in an emergency. My thinking. Always love seeing you guys.
That’s why this sailing boat has oars, and the ability to put an engine on it.
@@chrispomfret8592 Except if you go any serious distance with it exploring, there's no room to keep an engine in the dinghy during the excursion. So that's a lot of rowing to consider in a no-wind scenario. To be fair, the same can be said about an engine failing, though that's less likely than no-wind situations. So worth thinking about, I think.
@@alanbleiweiss2195 it’s just normal passage planning.
My dream tender would be electric with the option to sail on a moments notice that sets up in under a minute with relative ease. A fold down mast with the jib already rolled on it so it's easy to furl and unfurl the jib with a series of pulleys to make it easy to bring up and down the mast.
The sailing version adds some extra pleasure to your life. That half hour sail before dinner on anchorage.
It’s super cool, but I sort of broke the decision down to how many times would be actually use the sailing aspect of the dinghy. Removing the motor and getting all the stuff out while cruising. Not often enough was our answer…go with the ZeroJet option!
Hi guys,
I started sailing 70 years ago at the age of 8, in a 10ft, plywood dinghy on a little reservoir in the north of England. A little dinghy teaches you a feel for sailing that, IMO, those who’ve only ever sailed on larger yachts struggle to develop. In particular, racing against others hones your skills.
I now live an hour’s drive from Paihia and until about 5 years ago used to keep a 30 ft shoal draft centreboarder and spend weekends exactly where you guys are in this episode.
I have visited OCT and their boats impress me. Personally, I’d go for a much simpler rig (leg o’ mutton sail with a sprit held by a simple snotter, and a clamp-on leeboard. Advantages: can use the cheaper, rowing/outboard version with more floor space: sprit can be higher than the boom and removes twist from the sail without the need for a boom vang: sail can be triced up snug against the mast in a matter of seconds using the fall of the halyard. This is quicker than dropping the sail in a squall and keeps it out of the boat if the wind drops and you need to row home. Sure, it won’t go to windward quite as well, not that you’d probably notice except if you were racing, rudder can be a simple outboard type clamp and the reversible leeboard is moulded to run up the topsides over the deck and clamp onto the carlin. The general consensus seems to be that it makes little difference whether it’s a leeboard or a weatherboard.
As to having the sailing version I think that exploring in a sailing/pulling boat without mechanical assistance opens up a whole new world of adventure. When the only sound you’re making is the chuckle of the water under her forefoot, you see so much more of nature. It’s like the difference between hiking the trail and using a quad bike.
You already mentioned being able to teach the basics of sailing to others.
Finally, I think this is possibly the best tender/life raft/self rescue boat I’ve ever seen. With the two of you on the bottom boards, a tight fitting cover and a sea anchor I think your chances would be the equal of a certified life raft. But, under better conditions you should be able to make 50 - 100 miles per day if you sail her watch and watch about. I’d take that over a leaky life raft with sharks hitting my backside, simply adrift on the ocean.
Whatever you decide, go well. My sailing days are over but my eyes are on the horizon, with yours.
Haere ra. Ka kite ano. Arohanui
(Farewell. See you again. Much love)
M. C.
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Oh this is so awesome! I met Russel a few years ago at an awards ceremony where they won some stuff. He was so awesome and so passionate about sailing we had a massive chin wag.
Its been so cool seeing them and their boats pop up randomly through out my youtube channels over the last few years.
YES GET THE SAILING DINGHY!!!!! It will be so worth it.
This is your tender! I think the ability to sail will bring you pure joy and you will become much, much better sailors. Imagine a nice tropical bay where you get to sail for the pure pleasure of it. I like the electric motor but I’m not convinced the range is there yet. This dingy hull shape is great and as a compromise boat it does a damn good job. Way better than an inflatable dinghy.
Exploring Shallows might be a challenge with the daggerboard and sailing rudder. Mounting electric drives to the rudder might give more flexibility in drive options. Your car has to be tolerant of strong winds on a return to your home or harsh squalls for an emergency taxi to shore. Identify your most challenging chores and choose the best solution for the unexpected. Best of luck!
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When I was young my father surprised my mom and sisters and I by purchasing a 22 foot Hughes sailboat (he'd never sailed in his life) From that moment on we became sailors. The sailboats went up in size over the years (up to a 36 ft C&C) During that time we had several styles of tenders (mostly inflatable ones) but the best was when we had one that was a sailing tender. Even though it weighed a ton compared to the inflatables, it was so much fun for me. I'd take it out where ever we were at anchor and sail around on my own. As a teenager it was a feeling of independence and I became so confident in how to sail. I miss those days.
No matter what tender you ultimately decide to buy, you will be sailing such a beautiful boat that will take you on so many more incredible adventures. - Hugh
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I don’t sail but I watch y’all and S/V Delos channels. I think you need to get the dingy which will best work for supplying your boat. What’s the easiest way to use it like a “car?” I would think messing with a sail just to go get groceries would be a pain, and then how do you park a sailing dingy without the sail being in the way or getting your sail stolen or damaged while it’s parked at the dock. Since I don’t know anything about sailing don’t listen to me 😊. But the sailing dinghy looks like more trouble than it’s worth for simple excursions for groceries or just jumping in to run to the beach. Do you use it more for groceries and beach runs or do you use it more for side trips and curiosity travels? Thinking about answering those questions would help you decide. That’s a non sailing persons perspective, but I want you to be happy with whatever your choice 😁. Thanks for your awesome videos!
Sailing tender is a great idea, but one that I think is ultimately impractical for the sort of no muss, no fuss, get in & GO things you would typically use a dingy for. I get the notion of allowing further exploration, but then you have the center board that interferes with the awesome shallow draft of a more normal dinghy. It could be great fun in bays, but then you also have to deal with sails, rigging, & loss of interior space that you really need when it comes to provisioning or hauling gear. Imagine using sails with 2 of you on a provisioning run, and needing to keep the center well aft of the mast clear so you can switch sides. I suppose you could each sit on the opposite gunwale, and pass the rudder & sheet back & forth. It looks like fun, but it wouldn't be my choice. Now, if you could take 2 dinghies, or fit a small electric outboard to the back of the sailing one, you might have a solution.
I think you missed the idea this is both a sailing boat and a powered tender. The centreboard comes out and is replaced with a plug system that stops the water flying up the centreboard case when in powerboat mode. It can be rowed too.
I’ve always like the idea of a sailing tender. That one looks pretty awesome. Practical when you need, fun when you want. Very cool.
I have a feeling you’ve just found your new dingy. Wow, it’s great. But always a good idea to write all the pros and cons and choose the RIGHT one for your needs. God bless!
Think the jet boat is better, the sail version seems small. I have same thoughts. Looking for a larger version to do tow sports and comfortable for family, shopping and stuff. I think they are so much better than inflatables. Like the keel protector and wheels. The jet boat and hydrofoil versions are cool. The sail version reminds me of a sunfish learning sailboat. Someone mentioned parts for the jet boat. As long as you can mount a traditional outboard in an emergency on that version I think your fine. I would love to see a secure locker on it though.
I allways found that OC made great dinghys and i would buy one as soon as i get my cat. As an improvemend I would like to see 2 swords. One on each side wich can flip up in the sideframe. You use your dinghy mostly where the draft is too low for the homebase, to beach it, or on the shallow dingydock. As it looks the rudder is fixed with a screw into place and only friction is holding it in place, this would be also very easy for the swords to do. Sails with the option of an strong electric motor would be the perfect combination!
Thanks so much for making our beautiful little island nation tucked away in the back of beyond look so good. Sad to see you go. Happy and safe travels. X
I vote you guy's get this convertible dingy/sailer... I started on a snark lil sailer 2 person .. I loved packing a days worth of food an just going around the Chesapeake visiting everyone... Once fell asleep an almost ended up in the main channel 😂... I apparently didn't tie myself to the tree well... lol!! Guy's this was a great episode... wonderful people!! Thanks for sharing your lives with us grateful ✌🏼💗😊❣️
OMG - a Snark! My first ever sailboat was a Snark (some 50+ years ago). What a fun little boat.
That option for the jetboat version would be a fantastic combo.
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Kia ora you two. Thank you, thank you, thank you for making videos that show our precious Taonga of a country in such a wonderful light. Best of luck with your new boat and next adventure. Aroha to you both.
Thanks!….. 😂😂 It was fun to see you folks back on the water. I never knew that dingys are not configured to actually to sail. The idea of a sailing capable dingy would seem both multipurpose and practical. Thanks for sharing your adventures.
Thanks! Now we have too many good choices. Thanks for the 💙💛💙
As a land locked RV person, take this opinion as the view of such.
The sailing dinghy is a cool, and very eco option. But, the eJet will get u to shore no matter the winds.
The simplicity of the sails with a backup electric powered motor could be the perfect combo though.
Another great Sunday morning with the Wynns !
Yes and this one seem to be good and supporting sailing for goodness sake...blessings...m
That is a cool little boat. Reminds me of the size of sailboat I learned to sail on in a school in Sweden. Such great memories.
A fun little tender….use it as a boat toy but can also be the workhorse when it needs to be!
Awesome Sunday morning surprise, another episode! 😜
I didn't start sailing after buying a boat, as I have never owned a sailboat. I have only sailed sailing dinghies. They are a blast to sail, but I swam as much as I sailed. Mostly because I love to push the envelope and I like to go as fast as I can. I spent as much time righting the boat aka swimming as I did sail it. My ex on the other hand sailed it very slowly and meticulously and rarely tipped it, but he still would go for a swim occasionally. But to get anywhere, you must go so slow as to not tip it over. You are also locked into weather windows. No wind, no groceries. Too much wind, no groceries. A heavy tide and wind and you may not be able to get back to your boat.
All that said, if I had a motor and could convert the OC tender to motorized so I could get groceries and get back to my boat if the wind and tide got too strong to be able to sail back. Dinghy sailing is such a blast to do. It is something that I absolutely love. That said, I wouldn't want to depend on if the water is too cold, and if there is a wind chill either. You must be willing to go swimming every time you put the sail up. I have tipped it over even when I wasn't doing crazy stunts. Imagine tipping it over with your dinghy full of groceries, or you just picked up a sailboat part you had been waiting months for. I would absolutely love to own a sailing dinghy, and the OC tender may be a bit more stable than what I sail. I just don't know how I get stuff back to my boat. I mean jelly cans full of gas and a gust of wind and now your boat is on its side. I think I would want to have the capability to sail to shore, but I would also want an electric motor that is charged and ready also to go to shore with me. Just a little reality from someone who only has years of experience of sailing dinghies, and absolutely loves them too!
It is because of my dinghy sailing that i would like to learn to sail bigger boats and start racing sail yachts. Some people sail to get places. I sail to sail. The places are just an excuse to go sailing.
that is a very good dinghy, seeing it knocked around a bit explains the name dinghy,
The sailing version is really cool, but I would have to go with the jet boat.
Here is the good thing the dingy can be used as sailing or with a motor down side room when sai8ling and lack of room when engine because of of engine fuel tank and the dagger board placement unless small electric engine. But also there is the complication of taking down the sails making the boat ready for the engine again and vise versa.
There's nothing sweeter than a sailing dingy. I grew up with one and now, at 71 y/o am thinking that the OC Sailing Dingy is the perfectly lazy shoreline sailing boat for me. Will research where to find it!
Susu Olsen
Oyster Bay, NY, USA
For this sailing dinghy to be practical while sailing, you need to have nice weather, have a place to board that supports your keel depth (no beaching), know that the weather stays good for sailing while on land. And store the sail every time you visit a place for a longer time.
It seems you cannot bring the motor with you while sailing, so wind conditions are critical. Also the capacity seems to be limited while sailing because of the swinging of the boom. I also feel like it would not be as fun to rig up the small dinghy just to go to land after having sailed for a long time on the bigger boat.
The video you guys did on electric outboards prompted me to get an E-propulsion Spirit for the dinghy on my Dolphin catamaran. I LOVE IT! so easy, quiet and dependable! It’s not going to get up on plane, but so what? Free motoring from my solar array for ever!
The sailing dinghy for sure! I grew up sailing my dad’s Penn Yan sailing dinghy. So much fun- with just a medium breeze you could make it plane above the water. With a motor on yours you’ll have the best of everything. You could put an electric motor on it…
Sailing......your best choice.
Supplemented with a little rowing when required.
Trust me...... 💛 🌞🌴⛵️
This sailing dingy looked so smooth and beautiful on the water, addition of the electric outboard if possible would be so cool! What a stellar looking performer!
Nice, great video, what a cool little sailboat. "If you can sail a small Sailboat you can Sail Anything!" On late, dealing with the remains of Hurricane 'Ian'. No electric for three days, tons of destruction, flooding, and all that goes with a Super Hurricane. One of the worst in History, set records on many levels!
Trying to relax, had to evacuate for a few days without power, elevator, laundry, cooking, etc.
Running on empty, loss of sleep, dirt;y clothes, worried moments, and sad stories. Love your cute little quips, and analysis! Too tired to give viable advice.
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Stay Safe and Brilliant~!
god i miss sailing dinghys.. been sailing since a kid
so good y'all
what an annoying decision... i want fast and slow sailing ughhhh
do this one...!
Interesting concept - looking forward to seeing which dinghy you chose...
Us too haha! Thanks for the love & for being a part of the crew!
You could look @ it like this for this dingy. If your motor ever quit on you, you could still get where you needed to go by sailing. You'd never be stuck or have to depend on someone to rescue you on the seas.
I'm sure you could rig it up to have an electric motor on it to. Then if you ran out of power you can always sail it where you needed to go.
The electric motor would do away with ever having to buy gas. And as you've found out some gas is very dirty in some islands & can charge you out rages prices since your from America.
I like this option, but I would buy an electric motor with 2 batteries or one large one so you would never run out of power. But if you had to sail it if you ran out of power, it might sail a little slower.
You've got a lot of thinking to consider & it's not going to be easy. It just goes to what your needs are & what your going to use it for. It's a tool & you have to just find the right tool for the job.
I wish you happiness in the choice you make, it's going to be hard to chose since electric is getting better all the time. Good luck & be safe,
Chris from Missouri
Definitely + 1 vote for this sailing dinghy. The jet boat was fun but I think there's more to go wrong with it maintenance wise. Simple is best. And technically, a sail, I would assume, is greener to manufacture than a battery & jet propulsion.
(I'm sure you could still fit an electric torqeedo style motor on this one too, if you want to stay green.)
Serious contender for sure! It's is the best of both worlds just like your new boat, AND it is supporting a small FAMILY business! I do nor envy you for the decision you have to make! Having fun while you commute between your home and land is where a lot of tension and stress can lay, if you make it a boat you can't wait to jump into, all the better. line up those boxes and make your checks, cause it is getting REAL! Love the vid, had a blast watching that sweet family welcoming you into their fold and the gorgeous day on that amazing water was relaxing. Enjoy the process, its what you want to be a part of your adventures!
Love the landlocked looky-loos :)
The coolest thing is this boat appears to be able to do both sail, unrig and motor as well...? Could be the best of all worlds.
The new boat's name should be Curiosit-E as in Electric :-)
Well you made new friends learned a lot and opened up more options for yourselves. Good Luck Stay Safe Wynns Much Love!
Lovely Nikki. Back in the 1980s I was working security at the port of Bellingham in Washington State. They had a magazine or picture of boat being built with 1800 foot beams. I think it was a catamaran and you pull smaller. Boats. Underneath and tie up. I never saw the boat after it was completed....................stay beautiful nikki
The sail would as you say be great for opening up opportunities while at anchor.
You could then justify the simplicity of a std outboard for fast unlimited range .
Defiantly impressed with the way the boat sailed. As a small boat race I appreciate that , so many tender type sailing dinghy barely sail ….. however the centerboard needs to be quick release as you will sail in shallow water a lot !
Cheers Warren
How easy would the sailing version be to beach by pulling up the center board? When he inserted the center board it looked like it was a tight fit. I'm sure you would use this not as a hybrid electric sailer, but either as an electric powered tender or as a sailing dingy. Do all the sailing componenet store permanently on the dingy? How much does it weigh, and will it be light enough to put on the davits of the new boat? Where would you store the electric outboard and battery? Still a lot to consider, but looks like fun, and does open up other options if time is not a factor.
Looks like a lot fun, and definitely practical with the outboard. Sailed well in that light wind too, but I wonder how practical it is in that configuration. It seemed like you wouldn't want more than two adults and shopping on it. I'd love to be proven wrong though, this is a really cool realisation of a concept many of us have daydreamed about.
I have to tell you that I grew up, sailing sabots in Mission Bay, San Diego, California but after seeing that Dingy/Sailboat, I am insanely jealous as it is beautiful. What a thrill.
a float on the mast top and never worry about turtling or bailing after a capsize!! well done, she flys in light winds!
Glad you got to have a beaut day out there in one of the places I grew up in. My Dad got us a sailing dinghy when I was 7 and my brothers and I spent many hours scooting around the bays, that one there at Motu Arohia (Roberton Is.) included. I've had 2 sailing tenders for our own yachts and love gunkholing quietly around. Go for it , they're fun.
That tender can have a motor as well as the sail I assume. If so then it has to be the winner. The electric speedster sounds like a blast but having a tender that you can motor or sail gives youso much more fun....
Breakfast and my morning movie. 🍿
Check out the ASTender (ASTender 340)! Similar, but higher deadrise hull so you don't get so much slamming.
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Pros and cons for both. Ultimately the choice is yours. I'm sure you will make the decision which is best for your intended purposes. Thanks for sharing this lovely family's invention. ❤️
We have a have a OC 350 on a ship headed for Cape Town as we speak. Nice to see the OC family on camera and we have had many emails with them. I wanted the sailing dingy but, it’s not something that you would use very often and the storage of the sailing gear is a bit more to keep up with. I wish you yall the best of weather in your crossings to come. Syd
Just finished up a beg Dinghy sailing class and this is exactly what we were doing. Playing with the tiller and mainsheet, Tacking a Jibing
My vote is OC Tender with the sailing option and an electric motor. The OC has been my pick from the beginning. The sailing package just makes it more versatile.
Outstanding ..video this week thank you....good luck on your next step in your journey...
Sailing dinghy tender always. Complete versatility and so much pleasure while you're waiting for a weather window
I absolutely love that little sailing dinghy, and as you pointed out you can give sailing lessons which is a great way to make friends. However, as one commenter said it’s not practical if you need to get somewhere in a hurry, so get a convertible. A sailing dinghy and the out board motor. It would be in between a gas powered dinghy and an electric dinghy.
JMHO……Brian Rhodes
This makes perfect sense, the best of both worlds! I used to sail a Gwen 12, well sail is probably being optimistic, but boy could it go like the clappers! However it amazes me that there are not more " tenders" like this one. A fantastic idea and worth serious consideration. And, I can see a whole new scope for sail training. Brilliant.
Mean something like a Portland pudgy?
If you think you want to sell it but how often do you actually sell anything besides your big boat
Primly use your dinghy for expeditions and then go get food and fuel. A sailing dinghy and all its parts just would make that more complicated. More parts to fix and replace. You might be better off with a emergency sailing kit for the dinghy you get. But even that's a bad idea because if you're going to be rescued you're probably going to be close to where your boat was last seen.
Ahoy Fellow Sailors, I sailed a Boston Whaler sailing dingy, an eight footer. It was very quick and nimble with one person aboard. Two people and groceries and a couple five gallon jugs slow it down enough to make you wish for a motor. It is all about displacement when under sail. Power can get the right hull design up on a plane. Maybe go for displacement with both sail and aux- power. If it was not my twilight, I would choose a foamed unsinkable Boston Whaler with a lanteen rig (for shorter poles to store) stepped far foward. I would add a kite rig as well to catch higher altitude wind.
My little Whaler was a blast to sail, but always carry oars. One fine day years ago, my big sailboat was in the marina and we were in the dingy about eight miles away, according to my local knowledge. The wind quit on us. I tried steering to the closest patches of wind driven ripples but I could only muster about a tenth of a knot over ground as we watched the sun go down. Please turn to chapter two, wait, what, no chapter two?
Power the dingy with electric. Make sure you install a good thrust bearing on the prop shafts so you can re-gen under sail ( mindful of prop pitch). A sailplane and kite rig. Unsinkable, kick up rudder and dagger board. Might work but whichever way you go I respect your learning curve and the application of the knowledge that you share with us. Many thanks.
Nikki, I learned to sail on the Lido 14 and have sailed many a boat since but when I think of the highlights of all of them. sailing that little 14' is among the very best. The warm sun, moving along with the wind and the only sounds are the gurgle of the water beneath the hull and the faint rattle of the rigging.
Love small sail boats been sailing them for over 60 years really helped me control my 31 foot Jim brown trim I built and sailed when I was 24 years old . I so enjoy your adventures been there from the beginning thank you guys
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If you *like* to sail occasionally [ie, the adjusting sail, course to move] go for the sailing/convertible dinghy. Otherwise the electric jet.
Reminds me of learning to sail Pram's in Cocoa Nut Florida in the late 40's. We used to have races in the classes we had. I had already learned how to sail but this was a little different because they taught us a lot of different tricks to go faster. My dad commercial fished a small open sail boat in Biscayne Bay in the late 20's and into the 30's before he could afford a power boat to commercial fish out of. So he was able to teach me some tricks about stopping quickly and starting quickly. Those were the days being a kid in the 40's.
I was impressed with the electric jet unit but an electric outboard motor and sail conversion would do me . I had thousands of hours as a kid sailing small yachts in the holidays and your vlog brought it all back to me. I’m 64 and would do it again if it was that easy. Cheers from New Zealand.
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Personally I would get the sailing version, I like the flexibility of use and the increased range a sail can offer... It's one of the reasons why I've always been interested in the Portland Pudgy
Sailing memories. Still takes my breath away. So relaxing unless the wind is high then the adventure turns thrilling.
I love this whole idea of a mini sailing dingy/power dingy.. If you ever ran out of gas.. at least with a few knots of wind you could make it back.. I think that is a stellar idea.. ( disclaimer.. I don't sail or even know how to swim ) but i love your channel.. been here since the RV days. I think the combo dingy is a great idea!
gas eltric outbard plus sail
Sailing all the way, weve had a Drascombe Scaffie on our boat for years, it's not fast even with the outboard on it but sailing in from anchor and back out without burning any fuel is fun and ultimately easier to maintain.
Of course you should get the conversion kit! So. Much. Fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it. Go for it. You never know what the cost of diesel might be in the future!
Definitely the sailing dinghy. More options than just speed. Will still get you to where you want to go.
There must be a way to have both!!! Jet and Wind
Sailing dingy would be cool, I've ridden one many years ago, that one looks a lot more durable than the one I was on, and they can be a lot of fun, when you decide that you are also loading groceries, would be nice if they included a hatch to keep goods dry during a run to a mainland. Would be good you have the option to use either/or sail or motor, with the OC.
Like oars, a sail is a good backup in case your main propulsion fails or runs out of energy. A tender that functions as a sailing liferaft can also be a lifesaver. Under normal circumstances a sail extends the range of your tender.
I can't wait to see what you decide on, but that little boat just looks like so much fun. It's got a super sensible design. I like the flat step on convenience and the fact that it rights easily in case of an oops. Clipped in dry bags would get you to nearly goof proof and as someone else said, a sailable life raft as well. Super-fast is fun, but this is eminently practical, eco-friendly and there's not a lot to go wrong.
Simple and effective. 👍
Canal bridges, shallow reefs and beaching could be a problem. 👎
I wish this couple huge success with their tender business.
"Sailing Yacht Florence" is just completing a 5 year circumnavigation. Their home-made wooden dingy is a sailboat. While they more often use an outboard, they did use it in the Pacific Islands to save fuel and often just for fun. When they were stuck in Indonesia for a year during covid, they used it to explore islands. A lifeboat with a sail is an interesting concept. Just thinking.